Very enjoyable lecture. I could listen to Gordon Corrigan all day. For this American it was a bombshell dropped about Monty at 1:19:00! I'll have to look-up 'rumbled' because I think I have a different meaning than what it actually is!
Nice to see Gordon, a favourite stalwart of lots of military related programs for many years! Kia Kaha, from NZ! And recent historians now think, and as Gordon says, Slim now ranks as the best WW2 General Britain produced!
I wonder if you would have been better comparing Montgomery to Admiral Beatty, both seem to have been promoted above their abilities at command in the field, and had a penchant for stabbling collegues in the back. The only difference is that after the war Beatty did a good job a preserving the Navy as "political Admiral" amid budget cuts, inter-service rivalry, and negotations of the Washington Naval Treaty.
Beatty was too mercurial and lacked attention to staff work thus we had the signalling mishaps at Dogger Bank and at Jutland - Monty was cautious and his staff work was first rate.
The recognition that the British Army has historically been a small professional army that required functioning within a coalition, often as a junior partner was eye opening for me. Montgomery’s role as commander of the 21st Army group was relegated to a relatively minor role after Operation Plunder. Eisenhower I think had finally had enough of placating Montgomery’s ego for the sake of coalition unity.
On the whole I like Monty. I wouldn't like to work for him because he'd sack me. However I don't think anybody else could have delivered the results that he undoubtedly delivered.
It really beggars belief what a total shit Montgomery was. Even if he were a military genius (which I don't think he was) such behaviour ought still to have disqualified him from such a high command during a war in which managing relations with our allies was so crucial to victory.
Haig was used as a scapegoat by others scrambling to protect their own reputation. Dying relatively young and only 10 years after the war he wasn’t around to defend himself. He devoted the last years of his life to the welfare of veterans, establishing the Haig fund. Monty by contrast was all about self promotion, lived to a ripe old age and spent the post war years telling everyone how great he was. He won the PR war if you like. The dreadful and poorly researched book by Alan Clark, in which he was wasn’t shy of making stuff up, did much to damage the reputation of WW1 generals in modern eyes. I don’t know enough about Montgomery, he seemed to ruffle a lot of feathers and upset key allies at crucial moments. He was however the senior commander of an army that gave us a victory at a time when there was little in the way of good news and we needed heroes. The propaganda and morale value at that time cannot be underestimated. As Churchill said ‘before Alamein we never had a victory, after Alamein we never had a defeat’.
Great show but but ...Mr Corrigan your the firdt Englishman who will say " Market Garden " could not happen ..hooarrh ... i am Ditch an living on the Battelefield and a shoud that all along but you English people stick whit the brave boys in Anrhem and don,t look further hooraah ... ( terrain is bad , route is Bad , Nijmegen a difficult town ( trow the uiterwaarden avance is daedly ) gavin did wht he did and well , Wesel garison town with a railroad to Nijmegen ( after maket Garden , we had a battle of the Reichswald later on the heights in Xanten .. , overlooked) But then Mr Corrigan i went this yesr to the Somme , Sheffield Memorial park special .. And is a " Shooting gallery" , then and now ( butchery ) no Bloody murder .. Same with Mametz Wood ( 300 mtr) yes but the best german troops lay there ( Prusian traning company ) bloody murder .. But i am Dutch so i may think it and see it .. Good Christmas mr Corrigan Grtz from Holland
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Thank you for this wonderful presentation
Gordon Corrigan, this is going to be good.
Very enjoyable lecture. I could listen to Gordon Corrigan all day.
For this American it was a bombshell dropped about Monty at 1:19:00!
I'll have to look-up 'rumbled' because I think I have a different meaning than what it actually is!
Thanks Gordon, I really enjoyed that, I thought it was quite fair and objective.
But I do think that Haig let Smith Dorien down at le Cateau and Mons
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Our speaker understands. Can't wait for the rest!
I am a first time visitor and most impressed by this elegant and highly informative presentation
Superb presentation. I'd love Gordon Corrigan to do a comparison between Montgomery and Slim
Pleasr keep them coming.!
Excellent thanks 👏👏👏happy Christmas 🎅 🎄
That was a masterful presentation.
Gordon is back 👍
Interesting stuff, always enjoy hearing what Gordon Corrigan has to say. Shame about the video quality though.
Thank you so much to Mr. Corrigan!
I thought I disliked Montgomery. Then I saw the video. Wow. Excellent work!
Nice to see Gordon, a favourite stalwart of lots of military related programs for many years! Kia Kaha, from NZ! And recent historians now think, and as Gordon says, Slim now ranks as the best WW2 General Britain produced!
Gott? Wavell?
I wonder if you would have been better comparing Montgomery to Admiral Beatty, both seem to have been promoted above their abilities at command in the field, and had a penchant for stabbling collegues in the back. The only difference is that after the war Beatty did a good job a preserving the Navy as "political Admiral" amid budget cuts, inter-service rivalry, and negotations of the Washington Naval Treaty.
Beatty was too mercurial and lacked attention to staff work thus we had the signalling mishaps at Dogger Bank and at Jutland - Monty was cautious and his staff work was first rate.
The recognition that the British Army has historically been a small professional army that required functioning within a coalition, often as a junior partner was eye opening for me. Montgomery’s role as commander of the 21st Army group was relegated to a relatively minor role after Operation Plunder. Eisenhower I think had finally had enough of placating Montgomery’s ego for the sake of coalition unity.
Maj Corrigan is the finest historical orator.
Excellent stuff, Montgomery was something else, imagine if you had bumped into him in a pub :)
A wonderful presentation. Is there a book behind this? If so it will be on my "to read" list.
I would be fascinated for Corrigan to compare Slim with Haig.
You said that Britain haddent had any victories before alamein........time for a video on O'Connor
On the whole I like Monty. I wouldn't like to work for him because he'd sack me. However I don't think anybody else could have delivered the results that he undoubtedly delivered.
Why not? By the time of El Alamein, the British army had enormous resources.
It really beggars belief what a total shit Montgomery was. Even if he were a military genius (which I don't think he was) such behaviour ought still to have disqualified him from such a high command during a war in which managing relations with our allies was so crucial to victory.
Haig was used as a scapegoat by others scrambling to protect their own reputation. Dying relatively young and only 10 years after the war he wasn’t around to defend himself. He devoted the last years of his life to the welfare of veterans, establishing the Haig fund. Monty by contrast was all about self promotion, lived to a ripe old age and spent the post war years telling everyone how great he was. He won the PR war if you like. The dreadful and poorly researched book by Alan Clark, in which he was wasn’t shy of making stuff up, did much to damage the reputation of WW1 generals in modern eyes. I don’t know enough about Montgomery, he seemed to ruffle a lot of feathers and upset key allies at crucial moments. He was however the senior commander of an army that gave us a victory at a time when there was little in the way of good news and we needed heroes. The propaganda and morale value at that time cannot be underestimated. As Churchill said ‘before Alamein we never had a victory, after Alamein we never had a defeat’.
I give that only 10/10.
Great show but but ...Mr Corrigan your the firdt Englishman who will say " Market Garden " could not happen ..hooarrh ... i am Ditch an living on the Battelefield and a shoud that all along but you
English people stick whit the brave boys in Anrhem and don,t look further hooraah ...
( terrain is bad , route is Bad , Nijmegen a difficult town ( trow the uiterwaarden avance is daedly ) gavin did wht he did and well , Wesel garison town with a railroad to Nijmegen ( after maket Garden , we had a battle of the Reichswald later on the heights in Xanten .. , overlooked)
But then Mr Corrigan i went this yesr to the Somme , Sheffield Memorial park special ..
And is a " Shooting gallery" , then and now ( butchery ) no Bloody murder ..
Same with Mametz Wood ( 300 mtr) yes but the best german troops lay there ( Prusian traning company ) bloody murder ..
But i am Dutch so i may think it and see it ..
Good Christmas mr Corrigan
Grtz from Holland
Vicar - he was a Bishop!!!
We get it. You're a Haig apologist. I'd go so far as to say fan boy.
He wrote a book - Mud, Blood and Poppycock.
Well worth reading.
Embittered old fart I detect a hint of jealousy but I suppose Monty will live on in the history books and you’ll be lost to time
Truth and facts, difficult for some people it seems.
Monty will live on in the hearts and minds of the new British Muslim majority .
@@davewolfy2906 poor little Dave you just believe everything you hear on UA-cam, it must be true!