#40 Stihl MS 500i - Which Chainsaw Bar Length is Best for it

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  • Опубліковано 7 лис 2020
  • In this video, I pick up my new Stihl MS 500i. I talk through some bar choices and show which one I choose for my application

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  • @decline1129
    @decline1129 2 місяці тому +1

    28” light with the wrap around handle is what I went with. Came with a 36” when I bought it from the dealer

  • @bayareafirewood8058
    @bayareafirewood8058 3 роки тому +1

    Nice! Just got mine. Can't wait to review it

  • @Bournefort
    @Bournefort 3 роки тому +1

    I'm picking mine up soon with the light 25 inch bar. I have a 16 inch bar to try out just for the fun of it. 😜

  • @markshechter8473
    @markshechter8473 3 роки тому +9

    I got my hands on a MS 500i and took the optional 28 light bar. I have since put that 28L on my 461 and went with a 32 light for the 500. It pulls it like nothing before!

  • @ChrisNieves
    @ChrisNieves Рік тому +3

    i just got my 500i and have a 28" Sugihara bar, mainly bucking and firewood purposes.
    love it so far.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  Рік тому +1

      Nice. I just got a 25" light and it works well. Will be posing a video soon on that. Compares the 20" to the 25"

    • @ChrisNieves
      @ChrisNieves Рік тому

      @@timbertimeoutdoors9836 can’t wait to watch it.
      I went with the Sugihara because it was cheaper than the Stihl light bar by like 45 bucks.
      Though I love my 500i I usually reach for my Echo 620P with a Tsumura light 24” bar.

  • @JS-oy6nn
    @JS-oy6nn 3 роки тому +8

    I only use 28” and 32” light bars.will cut every tree in wv.
    Don’t like to bend over to buck and limb. I use every power head from ms440 to 661

  • @trevorb555
    @trevorb555 3 роки тому +28

    Long bars all day, stand up and buck!

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  3 роки тому +5

      Buckin always says that. Ha ha!

    • @trevorb555
      @trevorb555 3 роки тому +3

      @@timbertimeoutdoors9836 yep that’s where I learned that method

    • @photometheus
      @photometheus 3 роки тому

      Hey, what's the carrying case you have there? Looks like it'd also fit a ms660.

  • @markkoster5418
    @markkoster5418 2 роки тому +3

    Just got a 500I came with a 20 inch light, got a 261 with a 16 inch and a 660 with 30 inch covers everything, did upgrade the 261 to 3/8 and square file my chains, bit more work but cuts better, am in New Zealand

  • @andrewcrossley1938
    @andrewcrossley1938 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for your video as each and every one of us has a saw for different purposes. I use 550xp and 560xp with 15" and 20" bars however I have the 500i with the rap round handle WCS bark box and bar spring upgrade so it's not so sloppy on the bigger bars. I run the 25" still bar and a 30" Sugihara light bar. Nice little toy. I am waiting for my 592xp with a 36" bar and thinking do I put a 50" bar on it or just got for the ms881 for that size bar as they both push about 8.7bhp.

  • @jamesbainton
    @jamesbainton 3 роки тому +4

    I keep an 18" on my 261, and then have the 500i setup with a 32"L. The 261 is still my general day to day saw.

  • @DeliveryBryan
    @DeliveryBryan 5 місяців тому

    I'm getting my Ms 500i with a 32 inch bar very soon 🤘🏻 and for now getting a different muffler and will be getting the fallers suspension kit for the new saw ! I'm excited for my new 500i R !

  • @richardhammer6559
    @richardhammer6559 Рік тому +1

    Balance is real important for carrying all day,but i like the longer bars because it's easier when I'm cutting logs on the ground.It makes it easier on your back all day instead of bending forward or stooping down .The two bars is a great idea.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  Рік тому

      I did get a 25 light and love that too. Does change the saw. Pro and cons to both bar lengths. I did make a video if your interested in see it. It in my play list.

  • @RockhillfarmYT
    @RockhillfarmYT 3 роки тому

    Good video

  • @jasonmoncrieff6065
    @jasonmoncrieff6065 3 роки тому +1

    Hi only seeing your video now, but you made the right decision getting the 20L and waiting for the 25L to come into stock. I bought a 20L for my 261 and honestly the saw now feels and handles better than with the 18R that came with it. My theory was that with the new RS chain being 1.3mm and a narrower kerf as opposed to the 1.6mm that it would be no harder on the saw. I honestly think that it is quicker now with the 20L than when I got it

  • @darrengarlough5121
    @darrengarlough5121 3 роки тому +1

    20 is what I always had in mind, I like any extra power.

  • @jeffcoulter7181
    @jeffcoulter7181 2 роки тому

    I’d run a 22’’ light bar for every day use and perhaps a 28” light for the big stuff.

  • @scottjohnson3226
    @scottjohnson3226 3 роки тому +3

    I bought a MS 500i yesterday an opted for a 32" bar to cut up large oaks that were blown over in a storm. I plan on adding a 25" bar later.

    • @jameshancock18
      @jameshancock18 3 роки тому +1

      i’ve got a 25” bar on mine and i cannot get it to big down even when buried deep into hard wood that’s much bigger than the bar

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  3 роки тому +1

      WOW, 32" is big. Have fun. I seriously love that saw.

    • @chucklindley452
      @chucklindley452 3 роки тому

      I use the 32"bar and have the power to cut the big wood its nose heavy Cant get part's for a 38 year old 056 my favorite saw so got the 500 i

    • @rexangel1700
      @rexangel1700 2 роки тому

      How much you buy the item guys

  • @jamesnorton2479
    @jamesnorton2479 3 роки тому +1

    That 500 is a BEAST. I can’t justify it. Went with a Husky 450.... Someday though...

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, its like holding a small dirt bike. 80CC. Crazy power and really really fun.

  • @throws56
    @throws56 2 роки тому +1

    I feel like east coast guys favor short bars thinking it lighter and easier on the body to cut with, but my hypothesis having to bend over to buck logs is much harsher and fatiguing for the user. Searching for a 500i myself and I don't plan on putting anything shorter than a 28 on it, so I guess ill find out.

  • @focirs7484
    @focirs7484 3 роки тому +4

    Whatever size bars best for the job, personally I always use the shortest I can get away with to keep it running fast and least effort on the engine.

  • @bigfish222
    @bigfish222 3 роки тому

    I have an older O36 pro with a 20" inch bar and it cuts great. Might have to consider a 500 in the future, but I would go for the 25" bar.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  3 роки тому

      Yes, I will get a 25" bar too and compare them.

    • @6900pilot
      @6900pilot 3 роки тому

      @@timbertimeoutdoors9836 light bar or regular?

  • @nickpinder3047
    @nickpinder3047 3 роки тому +1

    Need to get me some of those chainsaw Sandles for the summer

  • @russrtspooling7702
    @russrtspooling7702 8 місяців тому

    without question the light 28" bar is the go to bar. Its the best of both words

  • @darrengarlough5121
    @darrengarlough5121 3 роки тому

    How is it for starting? My wore out shoulder can't take alot.

  • @deliverybryan1138
    @deliverybryan1138 2 роки тому

    I run a 25” Sthil light bar on my Sthil ms 362 ! I my Sthil chainsaw . Sthil power 🤘🏻

  • @longy6612
    @longy6612 Рік тому

    the 500 with a 20 inch bar is a absolute monster

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  Рік тому

      Agree. I just added a 25" and really like that one too. Did a video comparing both 20" to 25"

  • @davidmaez493
    @davidmaez493 3 роки тому +1

    I was told by my local stihl chainsaw dealer anything bigger than a 20-in bar has to be ran with an ultralight bar 20 in the only one that you don't have to buy an ultralight bar for that 500i and the reason why is they need to run them ultra light bars is because you'll mess up the crank that's why i haven't even operated a 500i i still in love with the old school 460s 066 038s and 44s i wish themselves would come back cuz themselves were made to work not overheat no vapor locking any of that other junk that happens with emitronics

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  3 роки тому +1

      Not sure that is true. This saw came with a regular 28". I don't know for sure but I do know the 20" light is a nice fit and well balanced for it.

    • @chucklindley452
      @chucklindley452 3 роки тому

      I'm using the hell out of 500 i 32" bar all day since Oct. No problems it is one hell a saw and one hell a gas guzzler

  • @ktm690rbiker
    @ktm690rbiker Рік тому

    What type and size of carry case do you have?

  • @Ti-DAWGS
    @Ti-DAWGS 3 місяці тому

    Balance is nice.

  • @nwcanuck5069
    @nwcanuck5069 3 роки тому

    28 inch lightbar on a 461 all day long...like Trevorb said and Buckin Billy Ray...stand up and buck and save your back. Easier to control a kickback should one occur cutting in a pile of would like that with a longer bar on your saw. Just my preference...nice saw BTW enjoy!

  • @mightymoo8292
    @mightymoo8292 3 роки тому

    Im running a 16inch bar, 25inch bar and a 36inch bar on my 500i the 36 is really for slabbing ; )

  • @adamo4904
    @adamo4904 3 роки тому +3

    Comparing bars without a chain mounted won’t give any kind of accuracy as far as balance. I personally run a MS460 with a 24” tsumura bar and it balances perfect. I would also recommend steel toe boots instead of sandals while using a chainsaw...

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  3 роки тому

      Agree, need a chain on for more accurate feel and balance. I think it showed me what I needed to know for my application. Yes, I always try to have PPE on when actually cutting. More MS 500i videos coming soon.

  • @canamrider7195
    @canamrider7195 2 роки тому +1

    I was going to run a 24" and a 32" bar on my 500i, but then came upon a 400c at a good price. I'll run the 24" on the 400 and the 500i will be exclusively for the 32" bar and chain. I use to run the 32" on my 461, and it was a hungry combination.
    My 261 runs a 20" B&C with power to spare.
    A 20" on a 500? Seems a waste of money and power to get a 500 for such a short bar.

  • @beau26j
    @beau26j 3 місяці тому

    I got a 500, prefer the 25 light, using a 28 light now and started with 25.

  • @SlamPvP
    @SlamPvP 3 роки тому

    i have a 28inch sugihara light type pro bar and its not as nose heavy as with the stihl 28inch regular bar
    i also have a 20inch sugihara light type pro bar and its perfect balance

  • @stokermeister3
    @stokermeister3 3 місяці тому +2

    Here in Ireland we don’t have huge trees so we don’t really need to use long bars I’m happy to use a standard 18” bar which comes with the chainsaw 😁

    • @lashlarue7924
      @lashlarue7924 3 місяці тому +1

      save your back and get a longer bar if yer saw can oil it properly. The longer bar means you aren't bending over so much, and a shorter bar is actually more dangerous brother - if a small bar kicks back it goes straight back into you. A longer bar is more likely to swing up, out and over you due to the moment of inertia being further away from you; it swings like an arc.
      Stay safe brother and God bless!

    • @gunterbecker8528
      @gunterbecker8528 Місяць тому

      Typically Irish,only thinking to the next corner !

  • @rottiejakeluke
    @rottiejakeluke Рік тому

    I live in Lafayette, CO. Where do you live? Best wishes with your saw.

  • @loggerjake8506
    @loggerjake8506 Рік тому

    You can do a lot with a 20" bar. Less to sharpen and handles so nice.

  • @HairlipButcher
    @HairlipButcher 2 роки тому

    Ran short bars for year. Once I switched 28 inch is the shortest ill run!

  • @woofy548
    @woofy548 3 роки тому +2

    25 is perfect for that saw

  • @lkjyuiop1987
    @lkjyuiop1987 2 роки тому

    I’m thinking about getting one soon need about 300 more I save 50 a week

  • @timothysullivan4130
    @timothysullivan4130 11 місяців тому

    I run a 32 light on my 500i with a WCS BARK BOX & 60.1 95 octane fuel she SCREAMS!!

  • @onlygodknowswhat7595
    @onlygodknowswhat7595 Рік тому +1

    The shorter the bar the more often it needs to be sharpened.
    But the numbers are nearly negligable.

  • @Living-The-Dream
    @Living-The-Dream 3 роки тому +1

    👍🤠👏

    • @Living-The-Dream
      @Living-The-Dream Рік тому

      After 3 years of running my 500i with all regular and light bars up to 32”, I decided on the 28” light bar to be the bar that stays on it for normal use. The 25” light stays on my 462R C-m and the 20” light bar stays on my 362C. The 261c runs a 18” 04 light bar. Now just grab the right saw for the job.

  • @cpreit8862
    @cpreit8862 3 роки тому +4

    I would run 28 to 32 front lean takes the work out of cutting and your not bent over all day.

  • @stn7172
    @stn7172 Рік тому

    What fuel.mixture do you use?

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  Рік тому

      50:1. Lately I have been using the pre mix Stihl sells. Runs really good on that stuff.

  • @jameshamilton3872
    @jameshamilton3872 3 роки тому +2

    Definately not a heavy saw for 80cc its light i use mine with 20 light bar day in day out for commercial felling

  • @LongBinh70
    @LongBinh70 3 роки тому

    If your primary application is bucking, then a heavy front end is a good thing! Let the weight of the bar/chain help you pull it through.
    Now if you were doing a lot of limbing...maybe not. Then again, you wouldn't have to bend over so far! 🤣

  • @TheNutzandBoltz
    @TheNutzandBoltz 2 роки тому

    Your right the chain is magic and weights nothing when you're talking about balance.

  • @johnragan9959
    @johnragan9959 Рік тому

    Why do you want your saw to be balanced, 32 inch lite.

  • @jagcustomknives
    @jagcustomknives 8 місяців тому

    Less teeth to sharpen 😂
    People say that about skip chain, but forget the amount of cutters on a chain is directly related to the frequency it needs sharpening. You're not saving any sharpening time.

  • @rexangel1700
    @rexangel1700 2 роки тому

    How much the price guys

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 роки тому

      The 500i was all of $1300 with 20 inch light bar. Worth every penny. Just a fun saw!

  • @eddygoodwin7089
    @eddygoodwin7089 3 роки тому

    my 500i came with 32 inch bar, I ended up buying a 25 inch bar

  • @iffykidmn8170
    @iffykidmn8170 3 роки тому

    Hit dirt less with a shorter bar

  • @rickburnett3172
    @rickburnett3172 Рік тому

    Never and I mean never grab the scarab buy the bottom and top and slide it off. You will regret it. Pinch from the sides and pull off. The sides have no teeth to require stitches to fix later. Love the video though

  • @DFforestry
    @DFforestry 3 роки тому

    I didn’t think the 500i fited in those cases...

  • @hk93shooter
    @hk93shooter 3 роки тому +1

    my local dealer has a500i in stock. so prudy. i really dont need it. but me want.

  • @ED-es2qv
    @ED-es2qv Рік тому

    The more teeth you have, the sharper they stay cutting the same amount of wood. It’s a simple matter of how much wood each tooth hits. So, running twice as many teeth is like running a spare chain too. Unless you hit rocks, then they all dull fast so don’t.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  Рік тому

      This is a great point. I just ordered a 25" light. Want to try it. Backorder....

  • @Johnrider1234
    @Johnrider1234 3 роки тому

    We do 500 facecord a year

  • @scottvalleylongrange4878
    @scottvalleylongrange4878 3 роки тому +1

    Put a 32” on it. Don’t run a kids bar on a big boy saw

  • @larrywarren2431
    @larrywarren2431 2 роки тому

    Try a titanium chain

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 роки тому

      Interesting. Are they hard to sharpen? Expensive? Do they stay sharp longer?

    • @larrywarren2431
      @larrywarren2431 2 роки тому

      @@timbertimeoutdoors9836 not hard to sharpen stay sharp longer even in dirty dirt half price of Stihl where we buy how ever they do strich a lot

  • @phi376
    @phi376 3 роки тому

    You may be sharpening fewer teeth on a short bar, but I wonder if you are having to sharpen them more often for the same amount of work. Just something to think about. Doubt you’re saving yourself any effort.

    • @Revellersaws
      @Revellersaws 3 роки тому

      I have thrown that out there before. It makes sense to me, but I can see a situation. Big rock stuck in the bark of a tree dragged through the mud. Doesn't matter if you have 2 teeth or 400, they are all dull before you cut through the rock. If you tend to do that once a tank, short bars are the clear choice.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  3 роки тому

      Agree guys. I need to get better at sharping and get more bars

  • @archo0518
    @archo0518 8 місяців тому

    I have a ms660. Putting a 20 inch bar on it is a waste of fuel. You aren't using the torque that the motor has. I like a 20 on a 400c. On my 660 I leave a 30 inch on there all the time. On that saw I wouldn't put any thing smaller than a 25 on it.

  • @larrywarren2431
    @larrywarren2431 2 роки тому +1

    You said a lot of nothing

  • @cpreit8862
    @cpreit8862 3 роки тому

    You wasted your money could of bought 2 saws to run that bar for the price of that saw

    • @em4703
      @em4703 2 роки тому +2

      That's because you never ran a 500i to know why it's worth the money.

    • @cpreit8862
      @cpreit8862 2 роки тому

      @@em4703 with a 28" bar it's worth the money not a 18" that's like having a 1000hp car running stock tires no point

    • @rexangel1700
      @rexangel1700 2 роки тому

      How much you buy the item