Personally I think he always was using them. Whenever Ryunosuke corrects him, he never flounders or stumbles. He always corrects his logic immediately and flawlessly, and is able to follow Ryunosuke's train of thought perfectly even though it's directly at odds with whatever outlandish claim he's made. He's been playing games this whole time, and it's only now when this theme plays and there's an extremely limited amount of time with which to act that he says there's "no time for games".
Which is unfortunate considering he's perfectly willing to pretend he's an idiot even when everyone is at risk of being blown up by a bomb and he's perfectly aware of that fact. Gregson may have plotted criminal assassinations, but at least he didn't pull shit like that.
@@blackknightjack3850we can most likely assume that he already realized what the time bomb true purpose was and deduced that they would have enough time to do the deduction song and dance and even if they didn't he can just easily deactivate it very quickly.
[SPOILER DGS & DGS2] Has anyone else looked at the in-game art book and noticed just how damn fine young Yujin is? It's a damn shame he never appears as his younger version in-game, probably because they didn't feel like creating an entire 3D model for the few times it would be appropriate(him talking to Genshin for example). Also, that tap dance was fuckin fire xD
I honestly set that as my headcanon. I see Yujin without mustache 16 years ago, but 6 years later, he grows it, just as it looks right now. So, right, when student exchange happened, he was without it, but during those 6 years he got it.
Nah, this is really fit on final chapter. This the only moment when Sholmes and Mikotoba get really serious. Don't forget this theme has mikotoba's tap dance
Honestly being told to compose something and coming up with all this is genius. I haven't even heard much resemblance, like they may have copied something but I doubt it.
@@blackknightjack3850 To be honest, he could have relatively easily just... looked at the timer on the bomb and seen how long he has left. And he's ultimately the one that disarmed it, so he likely knew how long it would take, too. Add a bit of extra time for however long he expected Naruhodo to take, and some extra wiggle room in case a conversation drags on, and he can spend the time making stuff up until it's up. If they took even longer than his prediction, Sholmes can just interject with a "Ah, before we continue, I may need to fix something" and gone to disarm it. Also, the amount of time was supposedly enough to outrun an explosion that can level a building, from inside a room that requires going up a flight of stairs to leave. Given how extreme an explosion like that would have to be, Drebber would have had to set a very lenient time limit, so Sholmes could have, again, looked at the timer and assumed they'll be fine for a while. Not to mention, Sholmes knew of Drebber's character - he's not the type to murder unprompted, so he knew they had no intention of causing harm to anything other than the building itself with that explosion. So he knew he has time. Was this a good thing for Sholmes to do? Absolutely not, but then, he's not always a morally correct character. He likely inflicted some long-term harm to Naruhodo through his earlier plan, even - thinking Kazuma is dead, learning everything about a foreign legal system in a month, going up against the Reaper of the Bailey... Naruhodo obviously felt betrayed after that, and was upset that he wasn't informed of thiis for over a year, but Sholmes felt that this was the correct move at the time, and so he did it. He ultimately did the right thing, even if he took potentially the worst route to get there.
Seriously one of the greatest moments in the entire franchise. You finally get to see Sholmes doing what he does best. No goofing off, just his true genius mind at work. Not to mention Yujin's exquisite tap dancing as well. Add that plus this incredible music, so good!
@@narudyholmesie My read of it is that Sholmes is only his best, most competent self when he’s working alongside his partner. That’s why he was so often off the mark when he did the dance of deduction alone.
He literally says "No more games". in the final deduction, Holmes had already figured everything out before Mikotoba could say a single word, that's why he often says "You should see it by now" or "I'll leave this one to you"
@@d3lvn imma have to disagree, im going a bit from memory but the more dance of deductions you do the goofier he gets, but he always pointed ryu to the truth, but as they advanced, each time sholmes pushed ryu to develop his deducting skills even further, in the one he does with Yujin, Sholmes just lets him do everything because he already had figured it out
“This is the first piece I composed for Resolve, and it is one with a lot of memories for me. Mr Takumi had asked to come up with a ‘cool tune’ but that simple yet deep request left me stumped as to ‘What makes something cool?’. It turns out, tap dancing was just the thing for it to truly become the musical face of Resolve.” -Kitagawa
I am really fond if this kind of commentary on the creation of their work. I wish they would do this with every art book that is added to collector's editions and such, but unfortunately more often than not they really are just collections of sketches.
@@orvatus6195 Indeed, this is the first time I've seen a game including scrapped content and creators' comments for music and SFX, that's usually only reserved for artwork and illustrations.
I liked the touch that Holme's partner actually ended up being not that guy who was expected, and it sort of fit because of the mustache. So unexpected really; especially with that subtle hinting that the other guy from the 1st case was actually Dr. H. Watson the whole time.
Honestly being told to compose something and coming up with all this is genius. I haven't even heard much resemblance, like they may have copied something but I doubt it.
@@DragonNodez you could just call it the adventures of Herlock Sholmes or something like that. Maybe even Yujin Mikotoba Investigations or something of the like.
Can we all agree that Case 5 and this Final Deduction proves that all the other funny and stupid deductions by Holmes where just his way to test Ryunosuke's resolve? To test if he has the strength to never falter when pursuing the truth? And in this final case, he finally accepted Ryunosuke's and stopped testing him? Because boy oh boy, does that make Holmes a much MUCH more interesting character.
Yeap, especially in Ryu's final deduction, Shomes admitted that he has learned the art of deduction. And since then he has began treating Ryu more seriously than before. Even before the court is in session, he said that behind Ryu's genius is his own.
@@firdauskotp The fact he looseley knew the entirety of case 5, and tried to avert Kazuma from entering Great Britain, and the fact he's not even doing his goofy mistakes in this last dance it's just him letting Mikotoba take the lead as he says "No games!" GOD THIS WAS SO GREAT
Are we sure about that? S Holmes did think that a time bomb was an anti gravity device, and I can’t see him risking everyone’s lives just to push Ryunosuke in the right direction
@@pokemaster123ism to be fair, theres a fair good chance Sholmes knew when the bomb would tick. Plus, he also knows his ability to disarm the bomb in mere 5 seconds. At this point he really was just simply playing with Ryuu the entire time lmfao
@@jewii3824 He said something like "time to stop fooling around and go to real business" in this scene, implying that he is fooling around most of the time. This scene is so iconic, the only thing that I can pick on is that I wish it is a more complicated problem so that we can get to see Holmes and his true partner solving difficult mysteries like it is nothing.
@@kd0079 that's certainly possible. Holmes very well could have been trying to train Naruhodu throughout their journey. Also he managed to solve other cases by himself. But he is certainly goofy, so I won't be surprised that he did in fact make wrong deductions
I like that this song seems to be in 8/8 time when the rest of the dance of deduction songs were in 7/8. It really adds to the finality of this part of the game
Genuinely one of the best twists in anything ever to me. Why on Earth would we ever question Holmes and Watson? Thats how it always is. It's an adaptation of an existing work that's always like this. Then, when the twist is revealed, you go back in your mind and begin to notice all the details that didn't line up but you excused, and when you input the new revelation, it all lines up. So incredible.
I think herlock was being a "bad" detective on purpose to show ryunosuke the ways of investigating but when he really tries (herlock that is) he does a banger job! or maybe he wanted to flex on Mr. Mikotoba
Easily the sickest part of the game. All the previous deductions led up to this. No more of correcting Sholmes' nonsense. Just two geniuses having a dance of wits.
I doubt they had the budget for that, but it would’ve mave for a truly glamorous experience. But also the final pursuit theme wouldn’t have a purpose anymore
I would love a game about Sholmes and Yujin 10 years ago in the style of the investigations games. Like Yujin Mikotoba: The Great Ace Attorney - Investigations or Herlock Sholmes: The Great Ace Attorney - Investigations. (I know neither are lawyers but its part of the Ace Attorney franchise).
Me pareció una verdadera pena que esta saga dejara de ser traducida a mí me enamoro su musica, pero esta saga de juegos tiene una serie de caracteristicas y sobre todo un carisma que sería muy bien valorado internacionalmente. Mucho podría decir, pero creo que este es un buen resumen.
Let's be honest, we all did think that Sholmes is a general comic relief of those two games... just until this epic music starts to play, and you read "No games now." It's a moment you realize that Sholmes was only acting like a smart idiot, never really using his true deductive abilities for the sake of Ryunosuke development as an ace attorney. But now that the time is limited and stakes are very high he gets free with his genius mind and together with his partner gives a perfect deduction. But if you really can observe, you could notice Sholmes' hidden genius earlier. In all his dances of logic he was making 'mistakes', but as soon as Ryunosuke fixed them Sholmes was right away giving 100% correct conclusions, as if he figured it all out earlier. Really, he is my favorite character in the whole AA series.
That moment when you realized Holmes wasn't using his true deductive abilities until the end when he was with his partner.
Personally I think he always was using them. Whenever Ryunosuke corrects him, he never flounders or stumbles. He always corrects his logic immediately and flawlessly, and is able to follow Ryunosuke's train of thought perfectly even though it's directly at odds with whatever outlandish claim he's made. He's been playing games this whole time, and it's only now when this theme plays and there's an extremely limited amount of time with which to act that he says there's "no time for games".
Which is unfortunate considering he's perfectly willing to pretend he's an idiot even when everyone is at risk of being blown up by a bomb and he's perfectly aware of that fact. Gregson may have plotted criminal assassinations, but at least he didn't pull shit like that.
@@blackknightjack3850If he revealed it was an bomb, it's very likely that everyone in the group would panic and run away, letting Drebber escape.
@@blackknightjack3850we can most likely assume that he already realized what the time bomb true purpose was and deduced that they would have enough time to do the deduction song and dance and even if they didn't he can just easily deactivate it very quickly.
[SPOILER DGS & DGS2]
Has anyone else looked at the in-game art book and noticed just how damn fine young Yujin is?
It's a damn shame he never appears as his younger version in-game, probably because they didn't feel like creating an entire 3D model for the few times it would be appropriate(him talking to Genshin for example).
Also, that tap dance was fuckin fire xD
I get why they wouldn't make 3D models but honestly they could've used a 2D illustration... such a shame they weren't used
I honestly set that as my headcanon. I see Yujin without mustache 16 years ago, but 6 years later, he grows it, just as it looks right now. So, right, when student exchange happened, he was without it, but during those 6 years he got it.
@@Gabo2oo some fans actually seems to have made a model for young yujin
Young Sholmes looks wild❤
After watching the scene, this song hits so hard
still vibing to this masterpiece
Yujin Mikotoba : *TAP-DANCING INTENSIFY*
Herlock Sholmes and Yujin Mikotoba are the Sherlock Holmes and John Watson of Ace Attorney! I love them!
This really should've been the main theme of the game.
Well, it kind of is, considering that it was used in all trailers.
I mean the title theme, instead of the prelude.
@@cian2168 nah, tbh i think we should only receive this treat for THAT part, makes it even better/more hype
Nah, this is really fit on final chapter. This the only moment when Sholmes and Mikotoba get really serious. Don't forget this theme has mikotoba's tap dance
Honestly being told to compose something and coming up with all this is genius. I haven't even heard much resemblance, like they may have copied something but I doubt it.
oh my god mikotoba tap dancing
this is sholmes version of the pursuit theme
So true
Elementary, my dear fellow Mikotoba.
diego va ntm MDRRRRR
"We have less than five minutes until the ship leaves. No games now."
Yet a bomb with possibly less time attached to it doesn't stop Sherlock from "playing games"
@@blackknightjack3850 To be honest, he could have relatively easily just... looked at the timer on the bomb and seen how long he has left. And he's ultimately the one that disarmed it, so he likely knew how long it would take, too. Add a bit of extra time for however long he expected Naruhodo to take, and some extra wiggle room in case a conversation drags on, and he can spend the time making stuff up until it's up. If they took even longer than his prediction, Sholmes can just interject with a "Ah, before we continue, I may need to fix something" and gone to disarm it.
Also, the amount of time was supposedly enough to outrun an explosion that can level a building, from inside a room that requires going up a flight of stairs to leave. Given how extreme an explosion like that would have to be, Drebber would have had to set a very lenient time limit, so Sholmes could have, again, looked at the timer and assumed they'll be fine for a while.
Not to mention, Sholmes knew of Drebber's character - he's not the type to murder unprompted, so he knew they had no intention of causing harm to anything other than the building itself with that explosion. So he knew he has time.
Was this a good thing for Sholmes to do? Absolutely not, but then, he's not always a morally correct character. He likely inflicted some long-term harm to Naruhodo through his earlier plan, even - thinking Kazuma is dead, learning everything about a foreign legal system in a month, going up against the Reaper of the Bailey... Naruhodo obviously felt betrayed after that, and was upset that he wasn't informed of thiis for over a year, but Sholmes felt that this was the correct move at the time, and so he did it. He ultimately did the right thing, even if he took potentially the worst route to get there.
@@blackknightjack3850 He disarms timebombs practically instantaniously
*starts tap dancing*
Time is of the essence!
No nonsense here for once, just the perfect back and forth between holmes and his partner
Yūjin's tap should be a part of this piece.
you can hear it in the background as a very feint tap-dance, though
True. It should've been synchronised with the song when it starts back up.
I mean it kinda is in the new arrangement
It is though
Seriously one of the greatest moments in the entire franchise. You finally get to see Sholmes doing what he does best. No goofing off, just his true genius mind at work. Not to mention Yujin's exquisite tap dancing as well. Add that plus this incredible music, so good!
Yes. That's when you realize Holmes was just fucking around with you in both games, here he shows how much of a genius he truly is.
@@narudyholmesie My read of it is that Sholmes is only his best, most competent self when he’s working alongside his partner. That’s why he was so often off the mark when he did the dance of deduction alone.
He literally says "No more games". in the final deduction, Holmes had already figured everything out before Mikotoba could say a single word, that's why he often says "You should see it by now" or "I'll leave this one to you"
@@d3lvn imma have to disagree, im going a bit from memory but the more dance of deductions you do the goofier he gets, but he always pointed ryu to the truth, but as they advanced, each time sholmes pushed ryu to develop his deducting skills even further, in the one he does with Yujin, Sholmes just lets him do everything because he already had figured it out
The violins are Herlock, and the tapdancing is Yujin. Together, they form an awesome duo, and an awesome track.
*Herlock
🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾
I swear, this song just gets better and better
“This is the first piece I composed for Resolve, and it is one with a lot of memories for me. Mr Takumi had asked to come up with a ‘cool tune’ but that simple yet deep request left me stumped as to ‘What makes something cool?’. It turns out, tap dancing was just the thing for it to truly become the musical face of Resolve.”
-Kitagawa
I am really fond if this kind of commentary on the creation of their work. I wish they would do this with every art book that is added to collector's editions and such, but unfortunately more often than not they really are just collections of sketches.
If tap dancing while solving a murder isn’t cool, then nothing is.
@@orvatus6195 Indeed, this is the first time I've seen a game including scrapped content and creators' comments for music and SFX, that's usually only reserved for artwork and illustrations.
I liked the touch that Holme's partner actually ended up being not that guy who was expected, and it sort of fit because of the mustache. So unexpected really; especially with that subtle hinting that the other guy from the 1st case was actually Dr. H. Watson the whole time.
Honestly being told to compose something and coming up with all this is genius. I haven't even heard much resemblance, like they may have copied something but I doubt it.
T A P
D A N C I N G
G O D
This moment justifies a spin-off with Sholmes and Yujin
The entire game would be a spoiler just because it exists
@@DragonNodez you could just call it the adventures of Herlock Sholmes or something like that. Maybe even Yujin Mikotoba Investigations or something of the like.
Can we all agree that Case 5 and this Final Deduction proves that all the other funny and stupid deductions by Holmes where just his way to test Ryunosuke's resolve? To test if he has the strength to never falter when pursuing the truth? And in this final case, he finally accepted Ryunosuke's and stopped testing him? Because boy oh boy, does that make Holmes a much MUCH more interesting character.
Yeap, especially in Ryu's final deduction, Shomes admitted that he has learned the art of deduction. And since then he has began treating Ryu more seriously than before. Even before the court is in session, he said that behind Ryu's genius is his own.
@@firdauskotp The fact he looseley knew the entirety of case 5, and tried to avert Kazuma from entering Great Britain, and the fact he's not even doing his goofy mistakes in this last dance it's just him letting Mikotoba take the lead as he says "No games!" GOD THIS WAS SO GREAT
Are we sure about that? S Holmes did think that a time bomb was an anti gravity device, and I can’t see him risking everyone’s lives just to push Ryunosuke in the right direction
@@pokemaster123ism to be fair, theres a fair good chance Sholmes knew when the bomb would tick. Plus, he also knows his ability to disarm the bomb in mere 5 seconds. At this point he really was just simply playing with Ryuu the entire time lmfao
Man, Sholmes is fucking amazing.
I feel dirty listening to this and not having played the actual game, but it's so goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
It’s even better when you know the context
@@faresalsayed9005 I can image. I should really get started with these games
You'll be able to actually play the game starting in July~
@@mo15127 the game is now getting Getting localised and is coming out in July 27
Having just played through the context myself, can confirm that it's fucking amazing
Sherlock Holmes is the best detective in the entire ace attorney series.
CHANGE MY MIND
90% of his deductions are wrong tho
Nah, gumshoe is the best detective
@@jewii3824 It's implied that they're wrong on purpose-
@@jewii3824 He said something like "time to stop fooling around and go to real business" in this scene, implying that he is fooling around most of the time.
This scene is so iconic, the only thing that I can pick on is that I wish it is a more complicated problem so that we can get to see Holmes and his true partner solving difficult mysteries like it is nothing.
@@kd0079 that's certainly possible. Holmes very well could have been trying to train Naruhodu throughout their journey. Also he managed to solve other cases by himself.
But he is certainly goofy, so I won't be surprised that he did in fact make wrong deductions
Sholmes and Mikotoba's pursuit theme, in all it's glory.
So true
Finally, good Ace Attorney Dads.
needed those after aai2 thats for certain
I legit yelled out loud when this started playing during the final deduction lmao
This song made my heart flutter.
When I first listened to this song I was captivated, it was amazing and I too felt my heart fluttering.
This really hit me when naruhodo make the stronghart cornered
The moment the idiot goofball becomes a brilliant badass.
He always was one
The song of seeing the real Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson in action
So true!!!!
WAIT THE GAME IS A FOOT.
.....
BECAUSE HE'S A TAPDANCER OH MY GOD IT'S A PUN OH MY G O D
When Yujin hit the tap dance I was in shock. Normally I’d think it’s funny, but something about it was just so raw.
I like that this song seems to be in 8/8 time when the rest of the dance of deduction songs were in 7/8. It really adds to the finality of this part of the game
*tap tap tap tap tap*
I had doubts about herlock being a great detective but the last case he truly showed he is one.
"No more games!"
*Wait what*
this song makes me want to get married so i can do a silly dance with my wife
Why get married when you can do this with your homie
@@GreatSikoTM why not get married with your homie
@@realperson9951 so true
and they were partners (oh my god they were partners)
Herlock "the sight of you is making my mouth water" Sholmes
At this moment I realized all these times Sholmes was just trolling Ryunosuke and Susato...
The moment Mikotoba started tap dancing of all things, I burst out laughing, and for the rest of that final deduction I was smiling ear to ear
When I tell you I cried.
The way it comes in at 0:31 will always be a bit I love as it just sounds so grandiose to make it hit you again that this is THE dance of deduction
Genuinely one of the best twists in anything ever to me. Why on Earth would we ever question Holmes and Watson? Thats how it always is. It's an adaptation of an existing work that's always like this.
Then, when the twist is revealed, you go back in your mind and begin to notice all the details that didn't line up but you excused, and when you input the new revelation, it all lines up.
So incredible.
I want an investigations spin off game starring Herlock and Yujin.
Me too!!!
the great ace attorney: investigations
I think herlock was being a "bad" detective on purpose to show ryunosuke the ways of investigating but when he really tries (herlock that is) he does a banger job! or maybe he wanted to flex on Mr. Mikotoba
0:06 Don’t mind me
Yas
Almost a year later I still can't listen to this without getting teary eyes. Damn this was a great scene
I just finished the game and I love this song now.
Jeez sherlock. He is the best, dare i say the best character of the fransice
Yes, yes he is
Easily the sickest part of the game. All the previous deductions led up to this. No more of correcting Sholmes' nonsense. Just two geniuses having a dance of wits.
Oh you gyys all know why we love this music so much ♡ !
Imagine if the last case had a singular dance of deduction with Sholmes, Mikotoba, and Ryunosuke right in the middle of the courtroom
I doubt they had the budget for that, but it would’ve mave for a truly glamorous experience. But also the final pursuit theme wouldn’t have a purpose anymore
I would love a game about Sholmes and Yujin 10 years ago in the style of the investigations games. Like Yujin Mikotoba: The Great Ace Attorney - Investigations or Herlock Sholmes: The Great Ace Attorney - Investigations. (I know neither are lawyers but its part of the Ace Attorney franchise).
Me pareció una verdadera pena que esta saga dejara de ser traducida a mí me enamoro su musica, pero esta saga de juegos tiene una serie de caracteristicas y sobre todo un carisma que sería muy bien valorado internacionalmente. Mucho podría decir, pero creo que este es un buen resumen.
This is legendary, I will never get over the twist of mikotoba being Watson
I get so much serotonin from this track
Sholmes seemed so genuinely happy and excited when he finally got to do the dance of deduction with his friend again.
Love how Sholmes's theme is embedded in it, along with Mikotoba's tap dance.
*tap dancing intensifies*
"Time is of the essence!"
The Game 😳 is A foot!
And you lost The Game!
Ow
i ship them...
I mean, both Susato and Iris need a second parent
@@blackknightjack3850 then it’s a perfect fit
@@blackknightjack3850 Sisters at last
who doesn't
Let's be honest, we all did think that Sholmes is a general comic relief of those two games... just until this epic music starts to play, and you read "No games now."
It's a moment you realize that Sholmes was only acting like a smart idiot, never really using his true deductive abilities for the sake of Ryunosuke development as an ace attorney. But now that the time is limited and stakes are very high he gets free with his genius mind and together with his partner gives a perfect deduction.
But if you really can observe, you could notice Sholmes' hidden genius earlier. In all his dances of logic he was making 'mistakes', but as soon as Ryunosuke fixed them Sholmes was right away giving 100% correct conclusions, as if he figured it all out earlier.
Really, he is my favorite character in the whole AA series.
Such an awesome moment
This is also Yujin’s theme.
THEME OF GAY DADS
Just 2 single fathers in a long distance relationship
Lol then how susato exists
@@brostinson2798 he may not have known he was gay, he may have been hiding being gay, he may be bi. Theres a lot of ways susato would exist!
@@cartooncrazy9883 just seems like 2 best buds to me nothing gay about that
@@brostinson2798 okay, but no need to come onto my comment to say that or you sound like a bigot lol
This is the best thing I've ever heard
Also Sholmes was a fkn genius in this case
Love when this plays in the finale of Case 5.
Sound that just look like sonic and The mayhem master
This almost sounds like it's from A Hat in Time.
return of the oasis: vs neko-san
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Anyone found the slow downed version when the scene pause then yujin and sholmes whispering each other??
Reasoning battle: Behind the scenes (Partners story)