▶ Comparison of Vertigo 4K (4K DI) HDR10 vs Regular Version

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  • @erichendershot9780
    @erichendershot9780 3 роки тому +28

    Of the 4 movies in the new Hitchcock collection, it's Vertigo that blew me away the most. This 4K looks and sounds absolutely amazing!

  • @Dave-zk4fv
    @Dave-zk4fv 3 роки тому +8

    Watched this for the first time and was simply amazed not just by the film but for when it was made. Proves films made decades ago still stand the test of time. And the 4K just capped it all off.

  • @jonahlevin67
    @jonahlevin67 3 роки тому +16

    Wow! The improvement of extra fine detail on this is fantastic, compared directly to the SDR Blu-ray release. Great video. Thanks, as always.

  • @thiagomattar2368
    @thiagomattar2368 3 роки тому +6

    Less red, more blue and more contrast. Beautiful.

  • @Deepthoughtsabound
    @Deepthoughtsabound 3 роки тому +7

    4k from film is something special.

    • @mrchrisliddell
      @mrchrisliddell 3 роки тому +1

      Agreed. It's one of the few times we get an actual 4k scan and not just a 2k digital intermediate.

  • @tjp444
    @tjp444 3 роки тому +2

    I purchased this 4 movie package and the 1st one I watched was Vertigo. The new 4K remaster is beautiful. Specially the scenes where Jimmie Stewart is following Kim Novak through the streets of San Francisco. Wow, so vibrant and crisp. It was like you were driving yourself through SF in 1958! I just wish those scenes weren't so brief.

  • @johnhealey6455
    @johnhealey6455 3 роки тому +1

    The most beautiful film, with the greatest soundtrack.

  • @truthtalker3498
    @truthtalker3498 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks! That was highly enjoyable!

  • @lesstoriesmoomins320
    @lesstoriesmoomins320 3 роки тому

    Beautiful thanks!!!!!

  • @princepeterwolf
    @princepeterwolf 2 роки тому +1

    This is remarkable

  • @RobCoenen
    @RobCoenen 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this

  • @user-vg4hz3wh9d
    @user-vg4hz3wh9d 3 роки тому

    amazing :)

  • @oalternativo
    @oalternativo 7 місяців тому

    Detail is amazing. Does anyone feel it’s over saturated in some shots? And with some skin tones issues? Madeleine is pink in the scene where Scottie first sees her at the restaurant.

  • @minmawhein3000
    @minmawhein3000 3 роки тому +1

    Best movies to watch in 4k ?
    Help!

  • @ewin1st
    @ewin1st 3 роки тому +11

    The more and more I see these differences between he and 4k . The more I’m convinced it’s not really worth upgrading to 4k as not gaining anything unlike dvd to blu ray

    • @SamLovesMovies25
      @SamLovesMovies25 3 роки тому +5

      Really, it depends from movie to movie with 4K. Sometimes they use the same master as the previous Blu Ray so it's not going to make much of a difference, but sometimes for the 4K edition they do a new remaster with new scans of the original film negatives and such, so those look much better than the Blu Ray. I would say that 4K is still absolutely worth it, but do your research on a movie-by-movie basis (and take screenshot comparisons like this with a grain of salt because with converting the HDR to SDR, it's not going to look quite the same as on an actual 4K disc on a 4K TV)

    • @televes99
      @televes99 3 роки тому +2

      Are you watching it on a 4k monitor ? and also did you set the UA-cam quality to 4k, i forgot to do the latter at first,but i could still see a improvement in picture quality.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 3 роки тому +1

      @Mark Ewing
      It really depends on the medium you are watching it on. To really get the benefit of 4k you need to be watching it on a 150 inch screen using a projector that will give a good balance between color, black levels and size.
      Small TV's are simply not worth it for 4K and too many people have bought into that.

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 2 роки тому

      I feel really bad for saying this, but in this video (which by the way won’t load in 4K for me-I have no problems setting playback to 4K for other videos, including other Vertigo 4K comparison videos), the difference between 1080p and 4K to me just looks like the brightness is dimmed in 4K, whites become yellower, and detail is actually *lost*. What could be causing this? I own the 4 Hitchcock UHDs but haven’t bought a UHD player yet. I have a UHD-TV of course and have viewed this comparison video and others both with my TV’s HDR+ setting on as well as off.

    • @familygonzcartwright
      @familygonzcartwright 2 роки тому +1

      @@slacktoryrecords4193 the HDR is converted to SDR before the video was uploaded to UA-cam. If the video contains images from both the blu-ray in SDR and the 4k blu-ray in HDR it's not going to work. They usually do a transformation to SDR which is always easier but, at the same time, it only shows you which hue would go where. The real colors, dynamic range and brightness of the HDR bluray don't show up in this videos.

  • @collier6794
    @collier6794 3 роки тому +3

    Will you do
    Home alone 4k

  • @richardburt9812
    @richardburt9812 3 роки тому +7

    4K shots at 1:27, 1:43, 4:03 are way too dark, imo. The whole look of the film is too dark.

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  3 роки тому +3

      Dear Richard
      I think you did not understand the purpose of HDR. this is not to make an image darker but to strengthen the contrasts and give them a more realistic value. Moreover you have to take the context of the film which itself seems quite dark and sad and therefore it is quite normal the final result.
      Cheers !!

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 2 роки тому

      @@Mymoonization well it’s too bad then, because it clearly just looks darker in this comparison video. It doesn’t look like there’s greater contrast between light and dark, it literally looks like someone turned down the brightness setting on the screen too low. There’s more saturation to the colors, yes, but I don’t know that that’s necessarily preferable. In nearly all of these comparison stills, the 4K looks less filmic than the blu ray. Which is very odd, because in BD/4K comparison videos for Psycho and Halloween (1978), the grain becomes finer and sharper and the images more film-like-and not darker, either. Or overly saturated in the case of Halloween. Maybe viewing Vertigo on UHD disc on a properly calibrated TV is a different experience (I have the disc and am about to buy a player), but judging from these comparison videos on UA-cam, I prefer the Blu ray, in this film’s case.

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  2 роки тому +1

      Hello Slacktory
      First of all, I want to ask you a basic question. Do you have a professionally calibrated 4K TV and if so is HDR on when you watch my comparison ? Because if you don't do both of these things, you're bound to end up with darker images than you expect.

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 2 роки тому

      @@Mymoonization I do have a 4K TV that I calibrated myself as best I could, using a guide video from UA-cam. I turned on the HDR+, and it really just made everything look darker and yellower. So I’m going to want to address that issue for sure. But back to the Vertigo comparison videos on UA-cam - it’s the only one I’ve seen where the UHD version looks too dark (and in some of the videos, less detailed!). The caps on Caps-a-holic look much better-not dark, and often more detailed, though with less grain than I would like. Contrary to Vertigo, your comparison video for Psycho shows the 4K looking brighter than the blu ray, on both my TV and my iPhone. It seems like only Vertigo fared poorly in these comparison videos, on your channel and others, and I’m not sure why. The Birds looks better in 4K on your channel, too - better, finer grain (hardly any grain was visible on the blu ray), sharper image, the colors are slightly muted compared to the blu ray (this is a good thing), and it looks brighter than the blu ray.

    • @Mymoonization
      @Mymoonization  2 роки тому +2

      It's a legitimate question which deserves an answer and you are absolutely right to ask it to me. Regarding the image difference between my screenshots and those of Caps-a-holic is very simple. No image is in HDR but in SDR. And the difference is noticeable when looking between the two. This means that in terms of image quality whether on the brightness or on the contrast and even see the colorimetry nothing is the same. And therefore you seem to see a more detailed and brighter picture than my comparison on Vertigo. To give you an example here’s how I proceed to have the closest image to that found in a 4K Blu-ray. It’s a long process. First, I have to connect via a cable behind a housing that allows me to have the precise source that it will be indicated by metadata. Capable of rendering the images in real time, which exploits the metadata of the calibration station. We call this Content Mapping Unit - CMU) It's like a box that is plugged behind my Oppo 4K blu-ray and my brand new professional Canon DP-V3120 OLED monitor with MTI Film updates Cortex v5.2. Very important. Then you must also have software that allows you to work with different HDR sources. Like Dolby Vision and recently the HDR10+. Also via a metadata file, an XML file, which contains information about the entire program, and it’s this mastering (mapping). In the beginning it was not an easy part. There is another CMU I have, called CMU offline or CMO, which is not dependent on the resolution, but does not work in real time. We can have a 4K rendering in Rec 709 of an HDR PQ element with the metadata, but not in real time. Because UA-cam is not able to broadcast HDR native sources. For the moment. Therefore I have to go through a gateway that allows a colorimetry just and faithful to that of Blu-Ray UHD on UA-cam. There is another aspect not to be neglected. This is the quantization depth of 12 or 16 bit files and the SMPTE standard for HDR, the Rec 2020, is called 4K of course. Once everything is done, I finish via Final Cut Pro X for the transfer.
      Hope this helps you understand the complexity of different image processing in HDR mode.

  • @dailydoseofsunshine2319
    @dailydoseofsunshine2319 3 роки тому +3

    Anyone who doesn't see this as a improvement is simply delusional