_" __-Nazis-__ Dominion did not expect __-Soviet-__ Federation ~ Klingon Alliance resistance to be so strong. The deeper they moved into this country's territory, the more fierce it became." ~ Georgy Zhukov_ The Kalandra Offensive shares much with Gorlice-Tarnow Offensive of WW1 & Fall Blau of WW2. Both sides are stepping up as many reinforcements as they can. But the Dominion made one great mistake, the took the Homeworld of Lwaxana Troi.
One should never underestimate a woman and certainly not the Troi women. Despite this, the Dominion killed 2 million Betazoid civilians. The Dominion committed many war crimes, which is why the female Founder was indicted in the Federation Supreme Court after the surrender and is serving a sentence in a maximum-security Starfleet prison.
*In spite of being an old comment* In all fairness, the female Founder should count her blessings that she ended up standing before the Federation Supreme Court. If she had committed similar war crimes against the Romulans or Klingons, they would have showed no mercy. I don't know if it was stated even in apocrypha, but the Klingons were probably baffled by the Federation's mercy. At least some officers and politicians probably opined that every surviving Cardassian and Breen officer deserved to be tried, similar to the glorious Nuremberg trials in the aftermath of Earth's WW-II, and then executed publicly for all of known space to see, while the Founder deserved to be subjected to medical examination, even if it killed her, similar to the Betazoids that were murdered during the war? At least those treacherous Jem'Hadar pataks did themselves in at the end of the war, saving everyone else the trouble. Perhaps it is a good thing that the Dominion did not resort to genocide, or the war might have become impossible to end without one side wiping out the other.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 seriously, your channel is incredibly successful. I think I subbed before you hit 1.5k and look at the channel now. Well done. You deserve it.
I've said it before- this series has drawn me in like Drachinifel's series on Guadalcanal naval combat. Consider that high praise. Thanks for the work you put into the channel.
The added audio from the female vorta in the beginning and again by the federation president at the end added awesomeness to your new chapter. Great video!!!
I play your videos in the background while I do my work. It reminds me of those fireside chats I read about in history books. Your visuals help, but your audio is more than enough for me. Thanks, brother!
Good showing the overall big picture of an offensive. Each engagement deserves its own video which I'm sure you're planing. But this shows the strategic level vrs the tactical
Have to say that was another brilliantly marvellous, fabulous terrific and awesomely kickass video in this epic series. Great to see that Dominion is able to learn from the mistakes of its past offensive and use them successful to create a masterful deception campaign as they put in place their logistics to launch such a bold and successful offensive against the federations soft underbelly, which if not for events outside of their control such as the romulans entry into the war and all the consequences of such force multiplier for the federation alliance numbers might have inflicted a game changing blow on the alliance's ability to continue the war.
In the Dominion War, Section 31 did everything right with the virus that makes the shapeshifters sick, but unfortunately the virus works far too slowly. The Dominion would have collapsed without the Founders. The Vorta would not have been able to administer the Dominion. All species could have turned against the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar and freed themselves from the Dominion's yoke. Sometimes it takes an organization like Section 31 to avert threats that cannot otherwise be averted because Starfleet directives and protocols nor the Federation charter do not permit it.
I'm not so sure about that. I did a video a while back comparing the dominion to the covenant in halo. Which basically survived even after the death of its leadership.
As a Starfleet officer I’m conflicted on the morphogenetic virus. On one hand I’m trained to think it’s disgusting that we even considered it. On the other hand the War Wounded military veteran of Wolf 359 that war made me into can more than feel that the ends justify the means
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Covenant didn't survive, just the fraction underneath. it was broke up like USSR with each fraction take different path like reform mordern like Abriter, warlord like Banish, and few cliaming to be the old Covenant like Jul fraction. But none of them hold same level of power or respersent that Covenant had.
The important question is, will the Federation and the Klingons take their usual approach of pushing back the salient, or will they try cutting it off this time?
One key detail is the overall strategic targets for the two factions. The Dominion should be focusing on personnel casualties, as a new Federation officer takes ~3 years to produce from entry into Starfleet Academy to graduation The Federation should focus on industrial damage, as Dominion Jem'Hadar can be grown from fetus to full size in a matter of days. One thing I wish they had shown on DS9 was a set of 250-liter drums, full of a grey 'liquid'. The secret is that the 'liquid' is actually Jem'Hadar stem cells in a liquid gel. Each J'H stem cell is about twice the size of a human egg cell (so they are .2mm in diameter), and with the protective gel they take up .008 cubic millimeters in volume, or 125 Dominion soldiers per cubic millimeter of 'liquid'. A volume the size of a drop of water would be ~15,000 troops, a liter of fluid would be 125 million potential troopsr, and a 250 liter drum would carry just over 30 billion Jem'Hadar troops. The Jem'Hadar stem cells would be 'activated' by a catalyst, and would use local resources (from the Cardassians) to grow into full-size Dominion troops. High casualties among J'H ground forces would be acceptable, because there are so many troops available.
Hey man, absolutely great work as always! I applaud your efforts. Hopefully you can be hired by Star Trek production teams to actually make use of your talent. I have but one small request and that is to please include the events of the book "The Battle for Betazed" in your stories. Maybe add in some of that great tactical mind of yours to describe how valiant the Enterprise-E was in taking the planet back.
I just noticed how similar this phase of the war is to the situation in Ukraine. Operation Return was like the Ukrainian September 2022 Eastern Counteroffensive, which gained ground insanely fast immediately but bogged down just before the enemy border. The Dominion are now about to undo that success an launch a major offensive, just like Russia in Bakhmut in January 2023, but both battles become meatgrinders.
Uhhh is Macet okay? Did he come into contact with those disease immune kids from that one episode of Season 2 TNG? He looks way to old for being literally only around 8 years older than his appearance in "The Wounded"...
And yet the Dominion failed to conquer the alpha quadrant. The Romulan star Empire's involment in the war undoubtedly thwarted the founders' plan, the massive D D'deridex class would have been a serious problem for them, they only encountered 4, or 5 warbirds in the omarion nebula, this time, many hundreds at least.
I'm glad that the dominion get another go at a devastating offensive before the Romulans do their thing and Chin'toka ends the party. :) REALLY looking forward to this one, I hope there's at least one real "slug-fest" between a Dominion and Alliance fleet (The Battle of Tyra was more of a massacre then a battle). Benzar or Betazed maybe????👀
so this episode is basically a summary of the whole campaign up to december 2375. from there i'll go more in-depth on each battle in specific episodes .
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I knew that, was referring to said in-depth episodes. Also I have a question. I've noticed in the Dominion War episodes, whenever the maps are shown during the various months, there's a massive number of new Federation fleets popping up. Are these reserve fleets or fleets made up of newly constructed ships. Cuz the Federation building 1200+ ships in the span of just a year seems a bit much.
@@geekiusmaximus1882 so it's a mix. Certainly in the 1st half of the war its reactivated ships like you see at tyra and epsilon eridani. But also bear in mind the size of the federation and the number of shipyards.
Not to mention that as soon as contact with the dominion was made, I would imagine massive construction programs started. Realistic that they'd be flowing in by then
Wasn't Betazed a lucky stroke due to the local Federation fleet getting too far away on a training exercise? From there, Betazed had weaker defenses and couldn't defend itself for long enough vs the Dominion fleet
Didn't get the name of the Klingon High Marshall! Was he a character from the series or one 'adopted' for this from another medium? Like the bit on General Chang! Always nice to see a reference.
The dominion suffers really badly from a lack of diversity among its commanders and ship types, they only have 3 or 4 main space frames in service during the whole war and really pay the price for it. We see time and time again that their lack of specialised ships has to be filled in by the cardassians or the Federation and Klingons can run circles around them. I don't see many dedicated carriers, middleweight destroyers or most importantly Artillery ships; if the cardassians hadn't entered the war with their respectable artillery ships then the Dominion would never have been able to take the initiative in battles. Solo Dominion fleets are only ever able to make progress without Cardassian support when the federation secedes manoeuvring room, is outflanked or when they have a 2-3 ship advantage. It's always the Cardassians who have to break the lines and uproot entrenched positions, if the Dominion was fighting entrenched positions on their own; they'd suffer horrendous casualties before they even close to weapons range because of their lack of artillery and fighters (Carrier launched). Even in the Kalandra offensive they win the major battles by surprise and overwhelming numbers, while this does work the dominion can't sustain in with the Alliance counterattacks and dug in positions, they don't even engadge the bulk of the Klingon forces in the offensive. Even Their defence in depth would have them quickly siphoning ships were it not for Cardassian defensive emplacements. Their situation is very much like the Greco-Persian Wars where smaller Greek forces were able to time and time again fight much larger numbers of Persian infantry because the Persian empire practiced a very different type of war doctrine based on speed, all their victories were based on outmanoeuvring which they failed to do because of the Greek Geography and them digging in. The dominion is in a similar situation, they're running out of room to manoeuvre as all their avenues of attack are bared up 1 by 1.
An accurate analysis. And the comparison to persia is apt given how unstoppable they were considered to be in their day. Certainly the cardassians came into their own in pitched battles and defensive engagements. But the jem'hadar are still very much the master of deep space combat.
This is a good assessment of the dominion but the thing is they are not fighting the war in ds9 for the same reasons as the other factions. The alpha quadrant powers are trying to win a war so many factors dictate their actions but the dominion are not try to work to any timetable. They were told the war would be over quickly but when it was obvious the war will drag on the founder shrugged and didnt care. They are more bothered about odo going home than winning the alpha quadrant. As long as solids are killing solids the founders do not care how the war is going. Their clone soliders are expendable and their home twrritory was not under threat. Looking at the war from the founders point of view it was all good it was only the disease that emded the war. Even when they had lost the founder would not surrender and save lives it just said this is what they want. They would have liked to win the war but they can just try again later as changelings are timeless
It seems to me that the dominion are at their best when they are able to strike first, hard and deep, to quickly knock their opponents out of the war. Similar to how the Germans tried to gear up for WW2. This means they may lack certain weapons and systems dedicated to attritional warfare, something the cardissians are built for
I don't know about that. We don't really know the capabilities of the Dominion battlecruiser (either variant), but it may be a multi-role command ship. A single example was enough to scare DS9 in ties of "Ties of Blood and Water" and they appear to have hundreds of them. The ship appears on an Okudagram entitled "warship," implying that they are built primarily for that purpose, and yet they are comparable in size to a Galaxy Class. With so many of them, I think that alone makes the Dominion fleet extremely formidable.
Well, the Dominion are learning faster than the Federation. But this has to be a huge drain on Dominion resources. Gaining so much ground won't do any good if the infrastructure you set up can't support you. If they're smart, they'll start getting resources from the systems that they captured in order to out-pace Federation ship construction. And while the Federation infrastructure may have been compromised by the offensive, the Klingon and Romulan infrastructure has not. Sure, it's an impressive victory, but like I said before, they over-played their hand. And they know they over-played their hand and are panicking.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 because the Keldon class only featured in three episodes of DS9, Defiant, Improbable Cause and The Die Is Cast. Personally I love the design they should've included it in later episodes but they started to use CGI, The Keldon class was a physical model.
Taking Betazed was the biggest mistake they will make I wonder of the Morale boost of the long dead USS Voyager alive and making way home The USS Prometheus unleash on the Dominion or the USS Luna as a mobile sensor platform time to unleash our new toys Plus hurt the Dominion with our counter attack taking another shipyard down
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I think the Dominion attacking the most peaceful world in the Federation and Starfleet holding there ground to the last shows what needed to end this war Plus Starfleet Intel expansion While Starfleet going to soon out produce the Dominion
The dominion really is like the axis powers in the second world war. The cardiassians are resource starved like imperial Japan and the Dominion is able to absolutely blitzkreig its way actoss the federation but that isn’t enough because the federation is massive. Only thing that is missing is space winter.
The federation should have deployed trois mum to cardassia prime the entire dominion invasion would have been called off when they met her. She would have tried to marry someone and they would have gone home.
The dominion objectives were not poorly chosen the founders objective was for solids to kill solids. If they ended the war quickly the casualties would have bee lower and other powers like the romulans could have decided to avoid the war meaning even less casualties. They probably made the vorta incompetent on purpose and chose the liability cardassians soley to prolong the war.
Yeah i think so. Its an important factor to consider about the dominion war that the founders way of thinking and their objectives will be very different to the solids. Like i said they probably consider the death toll of solids their primary objective and the destruction of their cultures rather than winning the war quickly with a low death toll.
Is it just me or does anyone else think the Dominion overstretched again. Seems to me that Federation and Klingon fleets in and around Solaris can punch through to trapped King on fleet and then convert the Dominion Salient into a pocket, cutoff and without supplies.
Your channel is the ONLY Star Trek content I look forward to these days! I was just saying the other day that all the new Star Trek shows are crap (in my opinion), Discovery, Picard, Prodigy...all crap. When compared to Star Wars shows like Mandalorian and Boba Fett...Star Wars is definitely winning out of the two franchises. I miss the 90's, the heyday of Star Trek...TNG, DS9, Voyager....those were the days....
Prodigy isn't that bad. Also you forgot Lower Decks, which IS Canon. Granted, it's also close enough to Voager and such it could be counted that way too.
Yeah I think the makers of trek have missed the trick. The best new star wars is set in the universe but isn't star wars. Eg. The mandalorian being a western.
Oh hey...another one of those space battles where all the ships are total trash for any kind of space combat, but we're expected to believe they're badass warships solely because they look cool. It's just like that episode of A:TLA where they took Sokka shopping in the Fire Nation to cheer him up, and Aang put on this absurdly stupid set of armor because the corporates wanted a really cool toy to sell and the showrunners decided to mock them with it. . Except in this case...nobody's mocking anything...dipshits actually think these ships are good at their jobs.
Really liking this series :)
glad your enjoying it
does this mean we are getting a 5 minute guide (that is 2hrs long) to Star Trek ships?
Reach!!! Whaaaa!!!!
“To die defending his ship is the hope of every Klingon.” -Worf, Son of Mogh
Great episode!
_" __-Nazis-__ Dominion did not expect __-Soviet-__ Federation ~ Klingon Alliance resistance to be so strong. The deeper they moved into this country's territory, the more fierce it became." ~ Georgy Zhukov_
The Kalandra Offensive shares much with Gorlice-Tarnow Offensive of WW1 & Fall Blau of WW2. Both sides are stepping up as many reinforcements as they can. But the Dominion made one great mistake, the took the Homeworld of Lwaxana Troi.
A mistake they will soon regret...
One should never underestimate a woman and certainly not the Troi women. Despite this, the Dominion killed 2 million Betazoid civilians. The Dominion committed many war crimes, which is why the female Founder was indicted in the Federation Supreme Court after the surrender and is serving a sentence in a maximum-security Starfleet prison.
*In spite of being an old comment* In all fairness, the female Founder should count her blessings that she ended up standing before the Federation Supreme Court.
If she had committed similar war crimes against the Romulans or Klingons, they would have showed no mercy. I don't know if it was stated even in apocrypha, but the Klingons were probably baffled by the Federation's mercy. At least some officers and politicians probably opined that every surviving Cardassian and Breen officer deserved to be tried, similar to the glorious Nuremberg trials in the aftermath of Earth's WW-II, and then executed publicly for all of known space to see, while the Founder deserved to be subjected to medical examination, even if it killed her, similar to the Betazoids that were murdered during the war?
At least those treacherous Jem'Hadar pataks did themselves in at the end of the war, saving everyone else the trouble.
Perhaps it is a good thing that the Dominion did not resort to genocide, or the war might have become impossible to end without one side wiping out the other.
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Genocide is Section 31 domain but nothing new for the Dominion.
Who else here was more excited for this rather than the return of discovery or picard S2 because I sure am.
Absolutely wonderful narration. I really hope to see this channel grow.
Thanks. First time here?
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Nope I'm OG. But I am no longer Todd Packer.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 seriously, your channel is incredibly successful. I think I subbed before you hit 1.5k and look at the channel now. Well done. You deserve it.
I've said it before- this series has drawn me in like Drachinifel's series on Guadalcanal naval combat. Consider that high praise. Thanks for the work you put into the channel.
Your too kind.
I envy the Klingons, for now they can attack in EVERY direction!
You'll enjoy the next episode then...
A perfect example of the Number 1 rule of war:
All War is Deception.
The added audio from the female vorta in the beginning and again by the federation president at the end added awesomeness to your new chapter. Great video!!!
I play your videos in the background while I do my work. It reminds me of those fireside chats I read about in history books. Your visuals help, but your audio is more than enough for me. Thanks, brother!
Awesome quality, the speech was awesome! Give me a proper Churchill I will never surrender vibe!
"... we will open her up and leave her people to bleed.."
Give the lady reciting this an award or some meds...
Where can we find more works of hers?
Oh, wow! The first voice actor was really in it.
Good showing the overall big picture of an offensive. Each engagement deserves its own video which I'm sure you're planing. But this shows the strategic level vrs the tactical
I certainly am.
Nice job. 15 sectors in the bag, but the bag is moving.
Just in time (get's popcorn)
Basically dominion Fall Blau offensive?
*screaming logistics officer noices*
It occurs to me that you could draw comparisons of the occupation and eventual rescue of Betazed to the 1944 Liberation of Paris.
Yeah although I don't think de-gaulle will be leading the parade 😉
Have to say that was another brilliantly marvellous, fabulous terrific and awesomely kickass video in this epic series. Great to see that Dominion is able to learn from the mistakes of its past offensive and use them successful to create a masterful deception campaign as they put in place their logistics to launch such a bold and successful offensive against the federations soft underbelly, which if not for events outside of their control such as the romulans entry into the war and all the consequences of such force multiplier for the federation alliance numbers might have inflicted a game changing blow on the alliance's ability to continue the war.
In the Dominion War, Section 31 did everything right with the virus that makes the shapeshifters sick, but unfortunately the virus works far too slowly. The Dominion would have collapsed without the Founders. The Vorta would not have been able to administer the Dominion. All species could have turned against the Vorta and the Jem'Hadar and freed themselves from the Dominion's yoke. Sometimes it takes an organization like Section 31 to avert threats that cannot otherwise be averted because Starfleet directives and protocols nor the Federation charter do not permit it.
I'm not so sure about that. I did a video a while back comparing the dominion to the covenant in halo. Which basically survived even after the death of its leadership.
As a Starfleet officer I’m conflicted on the morphogenetic virus. On one hand I’m trained to think it’s disgusting that we even considered it. On the other hand the War Wounded military veteran of Wolf 359 that war made me into can more than feel that the ends justify the means
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Covenant didn't survive, just the fraction underneath. it was broke up like USSR with each fraction take different path like reform mordern like Abriter, warlord like Banish, and few cliaming to be the old Covenant like Jul fraction. But none of them hold same level of power or respersent that Covenant had.
Great narrative! You may want to think about writing a novel on the entire Dominion/Federation-Allied War. You are awesome 😎
thanks. i mean i've got this series, which is probably equivalent to a novel.
Awesomeness on every level Venom….
The artwork and maps bring it to life, the music is the icing on the cake.
Epic as always man keep up the brilliant work can't wait for the next part :)
Man the Dominion really know what they're doing they've done this before and they'll do it again
The important question is, will the Federation and the Klingons take their usual approach of pushing back the salient, or will they try cutting it off this time?
One key detail is the overall strategic targets for the two factions.
The Dominion should be focusing on personnel casualties, as a new Federation officer takes ~3 years to produce from entry into Starfleet Academy to graduation
The Federation should focus on industrial damage, as Dominion Jem'Hadar can be grown from fetus to full size in a matter of days.
One thing I wish they had shown on DS9 was a set of 250-liter drums, full of a grey 'liquid'. The secret is that the 'liquid' is actually Jem'Hadar stem cells in a liquid gel. Each J'H stem cell is about twice the size of a human egg cell (so they are .2mm in diameter), and with the protective gel they take up .008 cubic millimeters in volume, or 125 Dominion soldiers per cubic millimeter of 'liquid'. A volume the size of a drop of water would be ~15,000 troops, a liter of fluid would be 125 million potential troopsr, and a 250 liter drum would carry just over 30 billion Jem'Hadar troops.
The Jem'Hadar stem cells would be 'activated' by a catalyst, and would use local resources (from the Cardassians) to grow into full-size Dominion troops. High casualties among J'H ground forces would be acceptable, because there are so many troops available.
Hey man, absolutely great work as always! I applaud your efforts. Hopefully you can be hired by Star Trek production teams to actually make use of your talent. I have but one small request and that is to please include the events of the book "The Battle for Betazed" in your stories. Maybe add in some of that great tactical mind of yours to describe how valiant the Enterprise-E was in taking the planet back.
I have that book and completely agree.
Definitely will. Though I may take some creative licences
Wonderful vid. Thanks for all your hard work.
Awesome. Can't wait for next instalment
Jesus wept, this is the best channel on UA-cam.
I never want these to end.
Another classic video. Great job 👍
Question, did you use the german verdun operation intro from battlefield 1 as base for this intro?
Maybe...
You got Daisy Ridley to do some voice work? ;)
That was a really amazing video I totally enjoyed it very much I can't wait 2 C the nxt video
I just noticed how similar this phase of the war is to the situation in Ukraine. Operation Return was like the Ukrainian September 2022 Eastern Counteroffensive, which gained ground insanely fast immediately but bogged down just before the enemy border. The Dominion are now about to undo that success an launch a major offensive, just like Russia in Bakhmut in January 2023, but both battles become meatgrinders.
Your Getting better and Keep doing . Battles
Uhhh is Macet okay? Did he come into contact with those disease immune kids from that one episode of Season 2 TNG? He looks way to old for being literally only around 8 years older than his appearance in "The Wounded"...
Well you know. Stressed of the job and all...
How do you recruit your voice actors?
Friends and members of the community.
Did you somehow drag Emilia Clarke into this?
😅almost.
We miss you and this series
I'm still here. Just switching gear for a bit.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I was hoping to see it by my birthday.....
@@jameskennedy8030 what were you hoping for?
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Liberation of Betazed
And yet the Dominion failed to conquer the alpha quadrant.
The Romulan star Empire's involment in the war undoubtedly thwarted the founders' plan, the massive D D'deridex class would have been a serious problem for them, they only encountered 4, or 5 warbirds in the omarion nebula, this time, many hundreds at least.
Cheers. Nice voice acting
Without massive dominion reinforcements, the dominion never stood a chance.
Finally the of the Federation.
I'm glad that the dominion get another go at a devastating offensive before the Romulans do their thing and Chin'toka ends the party. :) REALLY looking forward to this one, I hope there's at least one real "slug-fest" between a Dominion and Alliance fleet (The Battle of Tyra was more of a massacre then a battle). Benzar or Betazed maybe????👀
so this episode is basically a summary of the whole campaign up to december 2375. from there i'll go more in-depth on each battle in specific episodes .
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I knew that, was referring to said in-depth episodes. Also I have a question. I've noticed in the Dominion War episodes, whenever the maps are shown during the various months, there's a massive number of new Federation fleets popping up. Are these reserve fleets or fleets made up of newly constructed ships. Cuz the Federation building 1200+ ships in the span of just a year seems a bit much.
@@geekiusmaximus1882 so it's a mix. Certainly in the 1st half of the war its reactivated ships like you see at tyra and epsilon eridani. But also bear in mind the size of the federation and the number of shipyards.
Not to mention that as soon as contact with the dominion was made, I would imagine massive construction programs started. Realistic that they'd be flowing in by then
Wasn't Betazed a lucky stroke due to the local Federation fleet getting too far away on a training exercise? From there, Betazed had weaker defenses and couldn't defend itself for long enough vs the Dominion fleet
blood and fire?
He has a whole Dominion War series. If this is your cup of tea, I highly recommend watching/listening in order. This is latest installment.
@@jefferynelson i know. i'm saying how its too much like daynaris from GOT
Didn't get the name of the Klingon High Marshall! Was he a character from the series or one 'adopted' for this from another medium? Like the bit on General Chang! Always nice to see a reference.
Karak. He was a student of Chang back in the day.
The dominion suffers really badly from a lack of diversity among its commanders and ship types, they only have 3 or 4 main space frames in service during the whole war and really pay the price for it. We see time and time again that their lack of specialised ships has to be filled in by the cardassians or the Federation and Klingons can run circles around them. I don't see many dedicated carriers, middleweight destroyers or most importantly Artillery ships; if the cardassians hadn't entered the war with their respectable artillery ships then the Dominion would never have been able to take the initiative in battles. Solo Dominion fleets are only ever able to make progress without Cardassian support when the federation secedes manoeuvring room, is outflanked or when they have a 2-3 ship advantage.
It's always the Cardassians who have to break the lines and uproot entrenched positions, if the Dominion was fighting entrenched positions on their own; they'd suffer horrendous casualties before they even close to weapons range because of their lack of artillery and fighters (Carrier launched). Even in the Kalandra offensive they win the major battles by surprise and overwhelming numbers, while this does work the dominion can't sustain in with the Alliance counterattacks and dug in positions, they don't even engadge the bulk of the Klingon forces in the offensive. Even Their defence in depth would have them quickly siphoning ships were it not for Cardassian defensive emplacements.
Their situation is very much like the Greco-Persian Wars where smaller Greek forces were able to time and time again fight much larger numbers of Persian infantry because the Persian empire practiced a very different type of war doctrine based on speed, all their victories were based on outmanoeuvring which they failed to do because of the Greek Geography and them digging in. The dominion is in a similar situation, they're running out of room to manoeuvre as all their avenues of attack are bared up 1 by 1.
An accurate analysis. And the comparison to persia is apt given how unstoppable they were considered to be in their day. Certainly the cardassians came into their own in pitched battles and defensive engagements. But the jem'hadar are still very much the master of deep space combat.
This is a good assessment of the dominion but the thing is they are not fighting the war in ds9 for the same reasons as the other factions. The alpha quadrant powers are trying to win a war so many factors dictate their actions but the dominion are not try to work to any timetable. They were told the war would be over quickly but when it was obvious the war will drag on the founder shrugged and didnt care. They are more bothered about odo going home than winning the alpha quadrant. As long as solids are killing solids the founders do not care how the war is going. Their clone soliders are expendable and their home twrritory was not under threat. Looking at the war from the founders point of view it was all good it was only the disease that emded the war. Even when they had lost the founder would not surrender and save lives it just said this is what they want. They would have liked to win the war but they can just try again later as changelings are timeless
It seems to me that the dominion are at their best when they are able to strike first, hard and deep, to quickly knock their opponents out of the war. Similar to how the Germans tried to gear up for WW2. This means they may lack certain weapons and systems dedicated to attritional warfare, something the cardissians are built for
@@venomgeekmedia9886 yes they are. But as they say, the more battles you fight, the more you teach your enemy
I don't know about that. We don't really know the capabilities of the Dominion battlecruiser (either variant), but it may be a multi-role command ship. A single example was enough to scare DS9 in ties of "Ties of Blood and Water" and they appear to have hundreds of them. The ship appears on an Okudagram entitled "warship," implying that they are built primarily for that purpose, and yet they are comparable in size to a Galaxy Class. With so many of them, I think that alone makes the Dominion fleet extremely formidable.
Well, the Dominion are learning faster than the Federation. But this has to be a huge drain on Dominion resources. Gaining so much ground won't do any good if the infrastructure you set up can't support you. If they're smart, they'll start getting resources from the systems that they captured in order to out-pace Federation ship construction. And while the Federation infrastructure may have been compromised by the offensive, the Klingon and Romulan infrastructure has not. Sure, it's an impressive victory, but like I said before, they over-played their hand. And they know they over-played their hand and are panicking.
Curious on why the dominion wanted to occupy Betazed?
Stalingrad, Leningrad, Kursk. I'm seeing parallels between this and the Eastern Front. Qapla to the Klingons! Good hunting Romulans!
Curious on how the dominion couldn’t develop cloaking technology for their ships like their troops
The shroud is actually speculated to be a biological enhancement of the jem hadar
Starfleet should have used Soong created androids to build ships and to serve on them under starfleet crews.
This is like a Star Trek version of the Battle of the Bulge, but bigger and wider.
Cool trailer
The Keldon class! What a surprise!
In what way?
@@venomgeekmedia9886 because the Keldon class only featured in three episodes of DS9, Defiant, Improbable Cause and The Die Is Cast. Personally I love the design they should've included it in later episodes but they started to use CGI,
The Keldon class was a physical model.
@@MAZE4 yeah i think it makes for a good assault ship.
2800 dominion ships was the same number that were lost in the wormhole.
Taking Betazed was the biggest mistake they will make
I wonder of the Morale boost of the long dead USS Voyager alive and making way home
The USS Prometheus unleash on the Dominion or the USS Luna as a mobile sensor platform time to unleash our new toys
Plus hurt the Dominion with our counter attack taking another shipyard down
The big stuff like prometheus will take time before appearing in force. But look out for interceptors in the upcoming episodes.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I think the Dominion attacking the most peaceful world in the Federation and Starfleet holding there ground to the last shows what needed to end this war
Plus Starfleet Intel expansion
While Starfleet going to soon out produce the Dominion
Omg so good!!!
How long would Cadarcia warm up to the Allied forces after the end of the Dominion?
The dominion really is like the axis powers in the second world war. The cardiassians are resource starved like imperial Japan and the Dominion is able to absolutely blitzkreig its way actoss the federation but that isn’t enough because the federation is massive. Only thing that is missing is space winter.
I always felt the cardassians were regarded much the same as how Germany regarded their Italian 'ally'
Being destroyed in a deep space battle while you are practicing to fight in deep space battles is embarrassing.
Any chance the maneuver was inspired by Wing Commander Armada?
Another great one!
Fantastic 👏
This is one of your best video 👍👍👍
The federation should have deployed trois mum to cardassia prime the entire dominion invasion would have been called off when they met her. She would have tried to marry someone and they would have gone home.
Why do you think the cardassian prefect keeps resigning lol.
Lol
I love this series.
The dominion objectives were not poorly chosen the founders objective was for solids to kill solids. If they ended the war quickly the casualties would have bee lower and other powers like the romulans could have decided to avoid the war meaning even less casualties. They probably made the vorta incompetent on purpose and chose the liability cardassians soley to prolong the war.
Interesting idea.
Yeah i think so. Its an important factor to consider about the dominion war that the founders way of thinking and their objectives will be very different to the solids. Like i said they probably consider the death toll of solids their primary objective and the destruction of their cultures rather than winning the war quickly with a low death toll.
Is it just me or does anyone else think the Dominion overstretched again. Seems to me that Federation and Klingon fleets in and around Solaris can punch through to trapped King on fleet and then convert the Dominion Salient into a pocket, cutoff and without supplies.
I have said this one's before and I will say it again put me on a nebula class star ship and I will show you how to fight a war
uh oh the nebula class Starship better not be the novara.
That the one from message in a bottle?
No my ship that i Drew commanded by T'Lus
If i were the dominion i wouldnt have lashed outward so fast versus the fed/klingons
Your channel is the ONLY Star Trek content I look forward to these days! I was just saying the other day that all the new Star Trek shows are crap (in my opinion), Discovery, Picard, Prodigy...all crap. When compared to Star Wars shows like Mandalorian and Boba Fett...Star Wars is definitely winning out of the two franchises. I miss the 90's, the heyday of Star Trek...TNG, DS9, Voyager....those were the days....
Prodigy isn't that bad. Also you forgot Lower Decks, which IS Canon. Granted, it's also close enough to Voager and such it could be counted that way too.
Yeah I think the makers of trek have missed the trick. The best new star wars is set in the universe but isn't star wars. Eg. The mandalorian being a western.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 that NOT a good thing
Someone should of enacted artical 17 section 7 paragraph 6
Oh hey...another one of those space battles where all the ships are total trash for any kind of space combat, but we're expected to believe they're badass warships solely because they look cool. It's just like that episode of A:TLA where they took Sokka shopping in the Fire Nation to cheer him up, and Aang put on this absurdly stupid set of armor because the corporates wanted a really cool toy to sell and the showrunners decided to mock them with it.
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Except in this case...nobody's mocking anything...dipshits actually think these ships are good at their jobs.
Galor Class ships don't have engines in the stern.
And get the grammar right, it's new lease "on" life
What makes you say that?
It show your ww2 German Battle Tactics.