🤠 Garmin Glass + Carbon Fiber (SCRAPPY Bush Plane 10)
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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Hi Mike. Thanks for your balanced views about this subject. Would you please contact Bruce Simpson (xjet and RC Model Reviews on UA-cam) in New Zealand about this? I think that the two of you might be able to throw some serious and well-reasoned weight behind the defence of hobbyists around the globe. Model aircraft, quadcopters and drones are all being conflated as drones, when this is patently not true.
Some very important points to note: In many lands, model aircraft, and indeed amateur drones, are restricted to flying below 400 feet agl, and away from airports and unauthorised landing strips, whereas piloted aircraft are restricted to flying above 500 feet agl, and often higher in urban areas, except for during takeoff and landing, or in dire emergencies. So in theory, there is a safety buffer zone, and so model aircraft, including model drones, only need to be tracked to ensure that they remain below the 400' agl restriction. It is very likely that they do not need to be tracked at all:
There have been a grand total of 0 (zero) deaths or serious injuries caused by civilian model aircraft or drones colliding with manned aircraft. Yet there are probably millions of model aircraft around the planet. On the other hand, how many deaths or serious injuries are there _each year_ as the result of a manned (piloted) aircraft mishap? My guess is that it's substantially greater than zero!
And what damage does a model aircraft do to a piloted machine when the two collide at maybe a couple of hundred mph? Little more than a scratch, in the couple of confirmed collisions. (I checked, and the number really is that small.)
But what happened to the alleged drone on those occasions? In one, the debris was not positively identified as being from a model aircraft. In the other, the model drone was destroyed completely, as they are expected to be - but the full-size aircraft was flying below the legal minimum altitude in that incident. According to already established law, the two should not even have crossed paths, and the licensed pilot was out of order.
Model aircraft of any category pose _no threat_ to life or limb, and certainly pose no measurable threat to a helicopter, jet or other manned flying vehicle. Furthermore all of the RC model flyers whom I have met over the past 6 decades have been responsible people who are situationally aware whenever manned aircraft are in the local airspace. I have never seen anyone injured, except for a few bruised fingers - and a few very minor burns back in the heyday of nitro-fuelled models. Most models today are battery powered, and have very short flight endurance times of less than about 20 minutes, and most often less than 10 minutes.
If the legislation is passed as it stands, then the model aircraft hobby will become stifled, and possibly strangled out of existence. And where did most aircraft pilots begin their interest in flying 'real' aircraft? Got it in one; model flying. Most people will see the red tape as being too much, and either forget the hobby, or else go rogue and ignore licensing altogether. By registering a model aircraft, a person is in effect registering themselves on a list of 'prime suspects' for criminal activity whenever a 'drone' is sighted in an inappropriate place. Nobody with a level head would enjoy being registered as a criminal when they are indulging in a healthy, harmless and educational pastime.
We also know that no amount of legislation will curtail the hardened criminals of this world. So the net result is that the 'authorities' will rake in a substantial amount of licensing revenue, and revenue from prosecution of ,offenders' for a short while, while model flying goes through its death throes.
Thanks, if you read this.
THANK YOU ! ! ! I'm a former Navy Air Intercept Controller and a radio control aircraft enthusiast. Thank You for putting out the message
The FFA will do what ever they want and what they want is to get rid of personal RC aircraft. Thank Amazon for this.
Greg Plaka You still have time to fight or forever hold your peace....
In a time with so much hate, unrest, and dismay...especially on youtube -Mike is ALWAYS there with the most inspirational and compassionate videos. Thanks for inspiring us all, Mike, to be better Bad Ass human beings -like yourself!
Really appreciate that you took the time to speak about the coming FAA regulations.
Thankyou very much for supporting the RC community. Love your work.
Thanks for standing up for us RC enthusiasts
Thanks for everything you do and being an advocate for the AMA comments regarding impacts to the RC community.
Massive shout-out to how Mike communicated the FAA drone business. I really appreciate that he actually explained how he feels and why rather than trying to get his audience to mindlessly follow his beliefs. This is the kind of conduct that I believe we should see from every person in a position to influence public opinion. Help people think for themselves.
Absolutely agree. If people were taught to think for themselves and of others we would not need endless regulations.
Thanks for caring about everyone that flies.
I happen to be part 107 certified but love the fact RC pilots have a place in your world.
I really appreciate the more frequent video postings. These videos are great! You are a true inspiration to us all.
Thanks for supporting the rc community, as an avid rc plane builder and 3d/XA rc flyer this greatly effects my hobby/passion and my son who is learning to fly
Dude, you seem like such a genuine, wholesome, honest, fun guy...that intro about the regs, no pressure, no politicising, just a "hey, just thought I'd let you know, if you have feels about this, make your voice heard". Brilliantly done 👍
You're an inspiration, a motivator, an entertainer and a genuine enthusiast who's managed to (from my perspective) make the perfect balance between turning your hobbies into your dream job without getting the jaded, beaten, worn out attitude that so often comes from the harsh realities of seeing your passion become your chore.
Mike, your enthusiasm is infectious, your smile is contagious, your happiness radiates. You make my day better with every video.
Let's Get Back To Work 👊
My greatest respect to you. I really appreciate every video of yours. Especially the fact that you, a real GA-pilot, is supporting the RC-Hobby-Community, is just great. Thx man. My best wishes for you and your family, Robert Zimmermann, Germany.
Literally... how can you not love Mike Patey?!!! That Cheshire Cat grin and enthusiasm is epic!
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How to not love Mike: Just be INCREDIBLY envious of him. That being said I see him as motivation for doing the things that I like versus the things that pay the bills. Mike has shown how it is possible to do both.
He's a sunshine.
I think his work ethic shines above all. :)
Thanks for getting the word out for the RC crowd Mike, extremely awesome of you!
Thanks for standing up for the Rc scale modeling community!! Keep Rc flying fun!!....... On a side note this is by far my favorite UA-cam channel out of the couple hundred I subscribe to!!
Good on you for standing up for the r/c hobby, Mike. Much respect.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE RC AIRCRAFT HELP! I am only 15 so I cannot fly full scale at the moment so rc is the closest I can get to the real deal! We need more people like you to help us out! Thanks
Mike I can't thank you enough for addressing the Remote ID NPRM and not only enticing people to comment but could also get someone new in the Hobby as well. Model airplanes are what started my family going down the aviation path as well starting with my grampa in the the late 30s now we run an FBO as well as I fly Drones for my local Sheriff's Office. Remote ID does make sense for commercial drone use, but not for traditional model aircraft that have been operating with a near PERFECT safety record for longer than manned flight. It is a major stepping stone for countless people getting into aviation and it needs to be saved. You are the man Mike!!
Thanks for putting that in about the FAA rules! More people need to know about this! Thanks from the RC community!
G3R FPV hey man😜
I have had an interest, unfortunately not a passion, for airplanes from childhood. The closest to aviation I have ever been in real life was four years in the USAF back in the mid 1960's while working as an electronics tech on the F-105 Thunderchief. At Nellis AFB I had the good fortune of going up with a Major in a T-33. Thanks to that generous officer I can say that I have my only stick time. He encouraged me to handle the climb out after we were off the ground. Later in the flight he showed me how to do an aileron roll and then let me actually do it. Twice. What a thrill. Mike I wanted to take a moment to thank you for what you do. You have a passion but more than that you share that passion with others. But it even goes beyond that. You do not hoard your knowledge. You go out of your way to encourage others to challenge themselves and you take the time to show them how and share the techniques. I now know more about making molds from wood and aluminum than I ever thought possible.. I have a better understanding of carbon fiber and it's uses than I will ever need. Not skills I will ever use but knowledge into this 77 year old mind just the same. You have kept me interested in every one of your videos. Thank you so very much. Please, please continue to do as you do. You are a brilliant light shining for others to see and follow.
That video was listed as a little over 23 minutes. Watching it seemed like 5. When the end comes it is like having that last bite of an amazing dessert. Bummer. Can't wait until the next one.
Well said! Exact feelings of most of us on this channel.
Thank you mike for putting out the message on the FAA and model aircraft. I myself have been flying model aircraft for 25 years, the love and passion I have for this hobby is unbeatable. If this passes it will destroy the hobby as we know it. I’m Third generation in RC flying, I come from a long back round of Aviation as my dad, grandfather, great grandfather and uncles fly real aircraft. I build scale warbirds and do some go fast planes over 200mph. The hours spent into this hobby are crazy and drones and model aircraft do NOT need to be labeled under the same.
Mike, you said the words "built with service and the mechanic in mind". Heavens knows how many times I have wished that designers had mechanical experience. Love it.!!
Love your way of thinking. Currently in the military for 23 years as a jet engine mechanic and it always seems that the engineers think of the maintenance of the aircraft as an after thought. Way to think ahead!
Someday...when you have extra time :) ...you could create a kit plane for the masses, with quick build components and all the design ideas you have to make maintenance easier, etc.....I love your enthusiasm and videos mike, can't wait until Scrappy takes to the skies!
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I would love to see them make the least expensive kit plane a guy could actually build easily to get into GA.
Mike, you definitely caught my attention with your comments about designing your airplane for serviceability and easy access to things for maintenance and repairs. I spent most of my career engineering service and repair for new electronics products being designed by the companies I worked for. You were speaking my language at the end of this Scrappy 10 video. Keep the videos coming. Can't wait to see the next one.
Thank you for that announcement. For some of us that's the only thing we can fly for now.👍
Thank you Mike for supporting the rc community. Crazy what they are proposing
Thank you. For speaking out. From someone that has been flying RC since I was a teen back in the 90s.
Mike so grateful that you took the time to explain to many about this remote ID thing,this shows the kind of grass roots person you are thinking about others on the aviation ladder starting with RC Models,like many I cannot believe how short sighted the FAA are being on this and effectively destroying something so close to our hearts.
Garmin: ,,How many avionic displays do you want?"
Mike: ,,Yes."
Sunrise Aviation Movies Pretty much. Garmin makes ALL the goods! ✨
Enjoy your posts
@@ChandraSlyFoxPatey I want to thank you for letting your husband work crazy hours on these amazing airplanes that he is building. You are the true Champion of the aviation community.
Greg Plaka 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Overkill is underrated. - Hannibal Smith 2010
Thanks for being a great person and carrying
I love your family history. I'm 1 of 11 children. My parents never had much but we survived. Love your inspiration!
Sheldon Goossen I’m the youngest of 14. I loved his story to. There isn’t anything like a big family dynamic!
MIKE ARE YOU PART OF A BORG GROUP 1 OF 11 OK SEEMS FAIR
I am a retired mechanic will be 70 yrs old 11/22/2020..So i have watched every minute of every build you have ever posted.. You are awesome as my grand kids would say..I agree.I have a couple ideas rolling around in my head. #1 is creating electricity while you are flying.I know a wee bit about the conservation of energy i got from youtube science clips. BUT. i also look at E gliders and E planes..Great ideas..I love the flying cowboys you're an awesome group.#2 Enough here's my thought. If you have an air intake tube close to the fuselage on both sides and notch it so a vane turbine protrudes into the pipe and spins like hell as you fly along,It could create shaft driven electricity to charge batteries that could run 2 ducted fans built into your wings to assist sitting your ass down right on the mark..Also i thought of using that energy to run you propeller and save on gas..or as a back up..eng failure.. Generator failure , instruments etc. ps Loving Scrappy Doo..I know video production can be a time consuming pain in the Azz but we love them.
Mike you make everyone’s day brighter. Keep it going.
Another awesome project! That panel design is amazing. Have to also mention, Thank You for bringing some attention to the FAA's NPRM for Remote ID. Been flying RC since 2000, and it's what gave me the confidence to pursue my career as an A&P mechanic. We need to protect this hobby, as it's such a valuable learning tool for our future mechanics, engineers, and pilots.
I'm not even into flying, not the slightest. But I love this channel! Your craftsmanship and skills are amazing. Just love it 😊
To be fair Mike's channel is more an engineering channel than aviation, just happens to be his passion is engineering aircrafts.
Just sent my opinion to the FAA and a copy to your email. Since my wife is the pilot of the family I filled it in under her name. We absolutely love you and your family! Thank you for getting aviation out to more and more people! Take care and God bless!
Thank you!
As a layman to General Aviation, you, Mike are an inspiration to a vision of dreams to many. Your experience and access to resources are a God sent to those who can only dream. Your passion is a driving force to motivate future safety, awareness, and in real world situations to dig deep and peruse our dreams. I can't thank you enough for providing so much to the industry that stands heads above most. You are an all inspiring, selfless, and a dedicated individual that is of celebrity status in my book. I would love the opportunity to meet you someday and P.S. Mark is also a bad a$$ cowboy! Love everything about the Family, best wishes, DR
I love how happy this guy is all the time. You can tell its genuine
Thank you for helping to our RC Hobby!!!
Thanks, Mike. I have written numerous letters both to the FAA comment site and to senators. I have received two live phone calls from local senators who had no idea the implications of this NPRM. I encourage others to do the same thing. Make it a short personal story of how the hobby affects you and what it means to you and how this reg would hurt you. We need all the support we can muster. Mike, thanks so much for everything you do for aviation and innovation. You da man! (Can't wait for HH to come out with the RC model of DRACO and SCRAPPY!)
Thank you so much for your efforts and involvement with representatives. Thinking ahead!🤠
@@MikePatey My small contribution pales in comparison to yours. I also admire your work ethic, something that seems to be lacking these days. My motto:" If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over!"
I was an A&P, and later an I.A. for a total of 42 years. When I retired I met with an FAA rep to tell him I was not going to touch another airplane and proceeded to get out a pair of scissors to cut up the licenses and hand him the pieces. He told me I needed to do a form letter to turn them in. Oh yeah? I don't have to do anything of the kind. After looking over the rules they are proposing (I only went far enough to realize it was far too tedious a chore) I decided I better not post the comments I had on my mind. Jeff Bezos is probably mostly responsible for the proposed rules and his desire to launch drones to deliver Amazon packages as a way of saving on transportation costs. The rural area where I live has USPS, UPS and FEDEX trucks drive by everyday. IMHO the FAA should spend more time on commercial aviation and the problem of oversight and certification of airliners, so they don't have another embarrassing scenario develop like the 737 800 Max on their hands. There are two phrases in the US Constitution I want to refer to. They are "the pursuit of happiness" and "shall not be infringed." What are they going to do next? Regulate us out of flying our flight simulators on the PC? In short, it seems the FAA is looking for a solution to a problem that does not exist when they have enough existing problems to deal with. Do not waste taxpayer dollars on regulating a hobby out of business.
Mike, after seeing the 1986 footage, you appear not to age. I knew you and Mark had the Deck It company, very successful at such young age, but now learn the reason, remarkable, very admirable to say the least. Great video, thank you.
I know it’s not part of the main video but watching you back Draco into the hanger is still one of the coolest things I’ve seen. Love the content, Mike. Keep em coming.
Please Mike, we need weekly episodes!
They don't need to cover much ground each, every bit is interesting and entertaining.
Just your energy and knowledge already make it worth watching. Thanks for sharing!
I love how important family is to you that's how it should be!!! You are such an inspiration!!!! It is amazing watching your thoughts come to life on building the planes!!!
So glad to see you put that in your video about the FAA..... I hope everyone Who see this video will go and comment so we can protect this great hobby
Couldn’t agree more with you re regs, as a long time rc nutter , homebuilder, Sonerai ll , pits s1s Pilot , thanks for using your forum to get the message out.
Same thing is happening here in NZ
Thanks for the RC update, been out of the hobby for a few years, but still want to support it!
Hey Mike
When I got my AMT license 23 years ago I started working in the harness shop. So I can appreciate a good electrical wiring harness job. Would love to see that in your scrapy build, not a whole video on it but at least a small segment if possible. Keep up the good work sir.
jerome gay you can see it in Draco video close up on the pane video
Fantastic panel produced with mad skill! Thank you for your efforts to preserve the simplicity of RC aircraft. Like many, RC was the gateway drug that lead me to become a pilot.
honestly, when you had the wood mocked up for the glass panel, i envisioned how that would look with some high-gloss figured wood, like some pretty cherry or something. I know its a carbon cub and all, but that quick thought of a Bentley style premium accents would be SWEET for interior.
Like your line about building it with a mechanic in mind. Sometimes you wonder about the things they do and how they expect you to work on it.
Thank you for talking about this😊
Always feel positive vibes from watching your channel. Well done Mike.
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Hi Chandra. Mike is such a great guy and an incredible engineer. Some of the stuff he comes up with is mind blowing. Kinda like you 😉
RECKEM ROYS RC RECKEM ROYS RC Aww, thank you!🤗
MAN I love your videos. I have not ever got to fly in a small plane. Hope before I go 100% blind I can go up one time. LOVE Aviation. As a kid and a young adult I was into RC planes. I am a big DIY kind of guy. Seeing you build this stuff just rocks. Thank you for sharing. God Bless..
Genius as usual Mike. Sufficient overkill. That thing has better panel than 90% of the Airliners and Corporate Jets.
Mike,
Love your videos. Really appreciate you getting the word out on the proposed FAA rules regarding identification. I've been flying RC for many years and am genuinely concerned about the future of the sport. Thanks again!
Always a good day when mike uploads a new video!
Thanks for being an aviation advocate and helping to keep people active!
Love the constant energy you have for even the smallest things In your projects (like cutting wood).... contagious ... love it man , glad I subscribed and watch when I can !
The mad genius at work again. WOW! What a panel, simply amazing. Thanks for sharing
I have one of those carbon cubs and they're tons of fun! As a RC hobbyist and private pilot I'll be filling this out.
I absolutely love Mike and what he represents. There are few people who truly inspire me. I literally tell my wife sometimes as she’s falling asleep how much inspiration this guys gives me. Mike, you are such a blessing my friend. Thank you for your attitude toward life, people.... your a breath of fresh air in a society of deceit and lies. You set a high standard for everyone. Thank you Mike. I hope one day I get to meet you and thank you in person. Your influence has quite literally changed my life.
Wow! Thank you so much, that made my day. All my best to you in the future.👍🏻🤠
I imagine you’ve heard this before, but you are just a crazy engineering genius!
Love you guys, and what you do for ALL aviation! Thanks Mike, Chandra Mark and everyone!
Love Scrappy and the entire family's involvement!
Flew over, signed up and shared your FAA link with 2 friends. If I ever find another one they'll get it too.
The "Curse" of Scrappy is upon me.... I just cannot stop watching !! At episode 10 now and soon will catch up to the present day. Up till sunrise this morning watching Mike work.... Amazing amount of energy and passion !! Thanks for these videos !! I hear a lot of talk about "Draco" and can see the UA-cam videos on the side .... But I fear watching any Draco videos .... They might also be cursed..... Too scared to watch the 1st one...
Love those pictures of Draco!! ;-)
Great Job !!! The G-glass panel module, is a great idea !! I love engineers that live by the "KISS" principle ...... " Keep It Simple Stupid " !!
Every time I watch Mikes video's, I feel so dumb. This guy is so incredibly talented.
Manuel Saldivar, He is very motivating and inspiring
Mike! Thank you for bringing this FAA regulation to my attention! I would have totally missed it. I flew model airplanes when I was young and want my kids to be able to experience the joy of model aviation also!
Wow....gonna be state of the art airplane, even it if is "Scrappy!"
Thank you Mike!!!! 😀
You're insane. . . . and I love it. Addicted to Patey here.
Mike, I gotta say, you and your family have been a great inspiration for me! Watching you being so passionate and caring evoked a great idea to change me and my missus lives by moving to Australia to start a new life out of nothing, from scratch. We want to build a great foundation for us and for our kids and start a family in a beautiful country. Thank you!
You're one of those lucky rich guys who inherited everything . You had "everything" handed down to you . You got Faith ,Family ,love , security , a strong sense of honor laden duty , and the sure knowledge that NO goal in life is out of reach, if you're willing to WORK hard enough for it .... A "Rich" inheritance indeed !!!!!!!!
Beautifully stated. Couldn't be more true.
Yes Fight for our hobby!!!! So amazing you fight with the rc comunity!!! Your amazing! I am from the Netherlands and i would love to help you guys over there in the US
You are so enthusiastic & right out happy Mike : it's really infectious ... !!!
> Good Stuff
I’m so glad you decided to put the g5 in there. That is an awesome instrument. Love it
It is astonishing how easy it looks what you do.
The results are awesome, not to mention all the thoughts you put into every pice!
Thanks for all the uploads.
Greetings from Munich, Tom.
The number of professional level skills he has just blows me away. Pilot, engineer, framing/decks, welding, carbon fiber plastering, CNC operator and there's still more.
His pile of commercial parts, structures, frames, entire sub assembly of aircraft that were good enough but not right for him is amazing. What is truly amazing is he is not a boat or aviation design consultant working on the products we fly. Cessna took 50+ years to evolve to the design quality level he puts together in a 2 man shop at 2am. I am floored by everything he builds, on the design vision and most important for the builder he sends good vibes into crowds wherever he arrives in style.
Mike I appreciate you stepping up and making your opinion on the FAA regulations to come and as a RC PILOT myself I have made my opinion to the FAA I did it a couple weeks prior to this contest but that's ok it's so cool to see you backing the RC community and let's hope that the FAA actually hears what we are saying. SCRAPPY IS looking awesome Mike. Your incredible DUDE. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE FINISHED PLANE 👍🏽👍🏽🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸✌🏼✌🏼
I said, "Okay, this is the last one, then I'll go out to the shop to work." Then Mike posts a new video literally as "the last one" finished. So yeah, I guess that fiberglass can wait another 23 minutes!
Mike - you, your brother, and your family are such an inspiration on so many levels! You re-sparked my aviation bug all over...! Thank you and all power to you for all the wonderful things you are doing!
Okay I'm back. I knew you were setting us up for those panels but I nearly fell to the floor when I saw them. LOL.
So great to hear your support for drones and RC aviation. Thank you.
Get rid of the skeleton, after watching you and Ryan Newman CRASH I would like to think more positivity..... for a few months... love what you do ,
God Bless
Great words! As a pilot and an RC Pilot this is so important!
Mike, where did you get all this energy?? I love what you’re doing???❤️🤍💙
"Old school wood working...it's my passion' says the guy passionate about EVERYTHING! Great energy.
anybody else fist pump along with Mike as he says get back to work, or is it just me?
It’s not just you. 😆
Just you
It is inspiring to watch you and all you energy!
That is so overboard and sooo SICK
Good morning Mike. I worked in a Fiberglass shop for several years making Plugs and moulds for custom parts . The process is in the details and thinking about being able to get the part out of the mould and can you get in the tight spots as your doing every thing inside out basically. Like your 3or 4 degrees on the sides of your panel to be able to pull it. I love the challenge of making some thing that didn’t exist until YOU make it. Satisfying beyond belief. PS. I know your a Wizard and at one with the Mat. Because you make it look easy. And you know what they say about people that make stuff look easy.......... Dam..... that guy knows his shit.......Back to Work
the weekly uploads are amazing
Mike, thank you so much for giving some attention to the FAA's Remote ID NPRM. It's as though the regulators don't even know that traditional model aviation exists. I know they use the word "drone" to mean any unpiloted aircraft, but they seem to have no concept of what a fixed-wing RC aircraft needs to operate. Hopefully your video will reach a segment of the aviation community that might not have seen the issue otherwise.
The panel will look great. Gonna have to put something in so the passenger can watch the movie too though. Maybe just a drop down overhead screen instead of watching it on the panel.
And I have a drone that I have not flown since my wife passed collecting dust but I have to agree that adding more to it and forcing me to pay for it will kill my ability to enjoy the hobby. I generally stay below the treeline anyway and live next to an airport and have had zero issues. A better option IMHO would be an app that tracks the pilot in an area and gives them warnings and alerts when they can not fly and when there is a manned aircraft coming into their area so they can land safely before. It's a few jackwagons who are causing issues and they will continue to do so even after the rule is put into place. It's not like the cheap Chinese rc aircraft are going to magically go away or have this stuff put on from the factory. And good luck trying to enforce it unless they are going to start going around every city with a set of binoculars and a few hundred boots on the ground. This will just drive it underground and we all know how well that will work out. I mean come on, the laws passed for the war on drugs hasn't stopped anything. Nor have the anti piracy laws for software and media.
Well said. Tweed New Haven AP short final is right over head of my house but well above tree level..and you can hear them coming in.