I’d like to imagine the Scream symbionte getting inside MJ’s head and going “Hooooly shit. You two need to air out your shit. Don’t worry girl we got this.”
Never thought we’d see Scream in modern media. Well done, Insomniac. I mean, we did see her in “Let There Be Carnage”, but this one is more comic accurate.
i love how the symbiote is actually a direct reflection of repressed thoughts of their subconcious mind. It in a way makes them let those supressed feelings out. Its like id taking control. And people like mj or peter are the ones that are mostly led by their super ego, responsability and duty, while their id, their more primal and natural feelings are often suppressed, which leads them to have less control over it. Only when they made a bridge between their id and super ego, which is a genuine care of their interest (in mj's and peters case, their compassion) and will, they could get rid of the symbiote.
Let's also not forget how much trauma the symbiote causes for Peter afterwards. While under the symbiote's influence, he pushed away his friends and repeatedly did things that went against his entire philosophy of being Spider Man. He's coping with the fact that he failed to save Aunt May and Harry could also die and nearly killed Miles. And now, the symbiote's fully taken over his best friend, who's now causing mass destruction throughout the whole city. So by the time the fight against Scream hits, Peter can't even quip or fight back when Scream tries to psychologically torture him by using words it thinks MJ would say to him. He's at his lowest emotional point now and he just wants this whole mess to be over. All he can do is apologize over and over because after everything that's happened Peter is beginning to think that everything really could be his fault.
At least she sorta tried sacrificing herself to save pete even though that hit would mean nothing to him but the action really tells us how much she loves pete
@@reg1019 I was thinking this^^^ That your immediate instinct/reflex is to protect your significant other or child without any consideration for your own safety...or course people have to get all anti-woke about it 🙄 I suppose Quicksilver threw himself in front of Hawkeye to save him in Avengers because he was gay for him too then?
Symbiote Mary Jane had a point when she said" I was looking for answers leads, cuz you can't pay a bill or you lost your job" I was like damn she been wanted to say that. This was therapeutic for her.
The only thing I hate about this game is what they did to the voice actors and their faces. Mj looks soo much better in the first Spiderman, and it fits her. Same with Peter, he looks terrible now compared to the first game, which made him look way more authentic than this tom holland knock off.
@quietdomiii6544 Yeah, it breaks immersion, and I like the first peter looks way more real, than the Tom holland knock off they gave us in the second game.They took them from being adults to looking like teenagers. Like wtf Peter needs to look older due to him mentoring a teenage miles morales. I think they really missed the mark on that.
@@shad0wkn19ht9 It's been three years since they changed the face and you still complaining like a child? He looks much better here. He looks nothing like Tom Holland. It's your fault for letting the face distract cause it didn't to me.
I love this boss fight it's definitely in my top 3. This boss has meaning to it because MJ getting corrupted by the Symbiote and turning into Scream. Along with that the voice actors were going STUPID in this boss fight. So much emotion and the music fit pretty well.
@@doomguydemonkiller Nah, I absolutely loved the dialogue in that whole boss fight. Hearing Peter screaming at MJ to fight against the symbiote. Along with hearing MJ screaming back at Peter with pure hatred of always being there for him but she gets nothing back in return. That's the main reason why I love this whole boss because it's not just the gameplay that makes me feel emersed into the boss fight it's the dialogue and passion that you see the characters have during the fight. For example Raiden VS Armstrong in MGRR, Dante VS Vergil in Dmc3 and 5, Asura VS Chakravartin in Asura's Wrath, and Kratos VS Zeus in God of War 3. But that's just my opinion.
@@thenorthernglacierI agree man, the Voice Acting is the cherry on top here. This game is probably one of the best VA work i ever saw in these last years
This whole fight was just couples/regular therapy. That is and isn't a joke. This fight made Peter realize he hadn't been treating Mary Jane as well as he should have and had taken her for granted. Meanwhile Mary Jane realized she had been trying to be someone she's not and it wasn't making her happy, which is why she began her own podcast at the end
Spider-Man: Baby I can change! *gets a car thrown at him* Scream: YOU CAN'T EVEN KEEP A JOB, LET ALONE PAY A MORTGAGE!!! That one neighbor: Spider-Man was dating THAT thing? 👀 And I thought I've seen everything in New York.
It was, but I'd say it was...superhero therapy. After all, only superheroes have therapy include alien or magical possession that leads to emotional catharsis and the relationship being mended.
actually MJ had absolutely nothing to complain about. Peter is a goddamn hero who risks his life every day for others and for her. Even in the first game she put herself in dangerous situations like an idiot not realising that it was Peter that would have to get into fights to save her skin.
The symbiote would be a good therapist coz it's good at making people confront their issues,mj and Peter had a lot of issues that were built up at the beginning and only got worse as they both ignored it. Miles has problems as well but he was able to move on in a different way
@@willhicks7027SPOILER ALERT!!! The Symbiote Died After Peter Save her but there is her mind might still have symbiote subconscious and peter might able to change it to anti symbiote
I actually wonder what type of pain do the symbiotes and their hosts feel when exposed to sonic vibrations or loud sounds. Does it feel like burning, pinching, stinging, breaking, bleeding?
Don’t know much but from reading a few comics and seeing some shit in cartoons or movies, my guess it’s like being paralyzed when it gets too tough to handle, that and the having the symbiote probably trying to tear itself out from you to get away from whatever the loud sound is
@@kwayneboy1524 yea that’s what I always felt it was like. On the inside it’s like something piercing it’s way out, while on the outside it’s probably like ripping a second set of skin off
This game does pretty much everything Spider-Man 3 movie does but better. Evil Harry, venom symbiotes from space, mj resenting Peter. Her book is just like her play in that movie. Except they actually have the characters resolve their resentments while also having an awesome action scene instead of just having mj be captured and rescued and just sweeping all the resentments under the rug.
I love how they actually treat the symbiotes like alien parasites. That control you twist your anger and fears If this wasn’t spider man game with Spider-Man characters it would still be a horror/invasion movie
They're not parasites. They're mutalistic symbiotes, they give great strength and power but feed off negative emotions. If they were parasites they would just do the latter.
@@platinumvoid1648 it’s a comic book universe so of course they make it to where it gives you strength and powers. But at its core it’s still parasitic because it needs to attach/bond with a host.
Im so happy to see that they brought another rare symbiote like Scream, even in game, we didnt saw any of other rare symbiotes transformations ever since Riot in Venom movie if im not wrong Man, i would love to see Phage, Lasher and Agony in some game or movie
Peter: "Don't listen to those voices, they aren't telling the truth" Me: No MJ listen to them, look at the career of Randy Orton and how far he was able to get by listening to the voices in his head
@tamariomartin9080 Mine too she was NOT gonna help that jerk trash the man she loves his hate for Spider-Man cost him both a photographer and reporter 🕷❤️
@@jeronimomcdisneyhero5868 im gonna say that the science teacher and jonah jameson deserve each other for their jerkish ways because tails from sonic lost world is better by comparison at least, he shut down the generator and helping sonic, but these two, oh no like i'm gonna throw these two in the trash for crushing my dreams in.
@Powerhaus88 At least this game had more Rated R scenes than Let There Be Carnage, with them shoving the LGBTQ Pride message down our throats with Eddie and Venom's symbiosis. We get it, Sony!
Y’all gotta admit like the fact they decided to put Scream in the game and implement it so well is amazing. After this game Insomniac is legit on Rocksteady level when it comes to comic to video game adaptations! Bruh im hyped for the Wolverine game
@@BusterScruggs554 the worse he wasn't a crybaby like this in the first game. In this game he constantly screams on the top of his lungs, while in previous game only when fighting doc Oc. Wokewriters just blatantly spitted on Stan's legacy.
this could have been great, but I hate how Pete emasculates himself, even if MJ somewhat has those feelings a little bit deep down that Scream brought out in her he went way overboard on taking all the blame and putting her on a pedestal. This is exactly the kind of behavior that would make a woman leave you in real life cause she doesn't see you as a man anymore.
What the hell are you even on about? In what way did this game emasculate Peter, you saying that really shows how fragile your own masculinity is. And never did this game out Peter down to put MJ in a pedestal. Also, you say this as if you have any idea how real world relationships work and that women will somehow leave you for some weird reason.
I know from past relationships and from all straight women I have known is that they usually like masculinity and they like self respect. @@HenryLouis21
Not gonna one of funniest thing about this movie is the self insert design by one of writers. Had a whole model for Mary Jane but still designed her to be a self insert.
how could anyone take the dialogue seriously coming from Scream? it's like poorly written girlfriend writing a boss fight after having a fight with her boyfriend
This is the best boss in the game. Scream as mj make so much sense and work’s better than mj being carnage not that it was bad I loved ultimate spider man and that mj is probably my favorite beside insomniac which is the best most healthy mj we seen relationship wise the way scream is a reflection of mj inner demons and pushes Peter down breaking him mentally is done perfectly the design for scream is the best we seen her she lasted perfectly and not overdone and I hope silence is a playable character next game or dlc so we can get the symbiote powers again and because mj and silence characters are good
Todd: And now, have her call Jonah right after the fight, so he can be told off for a slay boss moment. The kids will love it. Bob: You don't think that's cringe or contrived at all?? Maybe since MJ was being such a bitch to Peter for his attitude while Symbiote-fied, knowing he wasn't in total control? Maybe instead of instantly validating her after the fight, have her apologize for making him grovel over the phone for something he couldn't control? Todd: Huh? oh nono, we'll have her be sorry and brush over it, we won't dwell on it anywhere near like we did to Peter. For MJ, what she'll learn is she's special. Peter learns he needs to do better. I mean he did try to kill her! Bob: Just like she was trying to kill him this entire time, while verbally assaulting him the entire fight? Todd: Bob, buddy, pal, my friend. I think we need to re-evaluate your place at this company...
I hate this game, they made Pete look like 16 yars old kid, he also got beaten by MJ in a suit, Jesus. Not to mention they made her ugly even without a suit, I can't find a reason why they did it.
@@popeyeschicken3535yup, Cletus is an alias tho. But honestly, it was in the back of my mind the whole time if "the flame" was cassidy. It was how he talked and behaved. I was looking for the red hair but it was always eithet in shadow or over saturated by the glow of fire so i could never tell lol😊
Imagine if either in a DLC Expansion or in the third game that MJ still has the symbiote within her body and she decides to speak to Dr. Connors to run some tests with her, turning the symbiote as her own as she becomes the Ultimate Spiderwoman, just like in the Ultimate show.
Hope not because that part of the Ultimate show was the worst and that show was bad in general. It was just another example of Disney Marvel Spider-Man not being able to write Peter’s side characters without turning them into superheroes
It's literally obviously a subconscious action. Her body moved on her own because she wants Peter safe. It's just a nitpick to call it out as not smart.
I mean, ofc Peter is more important, the game is called Spider-Man 2, not MJ 2, right? The truth is MJ is only a side character and it should stay that way.
Half of this game's side activities also have nothing to do with being spiderman it's all riding bikes, playing as other characters with no powers, using some stupid drone to chase around birds, it's like they went out of their way to make this game have as little spiderman in it as possible.
@@DeadEndScreamer Yea, that is such a wierd game decision. "Lets make a superhero game where you get to play as normal people with no powers" because marketing
@@DeadEndScreamerAh yes let's focus on some secondary optional missions and 10 minutes from a main mission and ignore the rest of the game where we fight hunters, giant ahh lizard, Kraven, a symbiote infestation etc. Truly a game that has nothing to do with being Spider-Man 👏😐
@@FunnyRedemption Yeah a game where one of the final missions is playing as manly jane in a third person shooter segment, truly this is the spiderman game of all time.
This is the most unintentionally funniest shit ever. The gf fighting the guy for not paying his bills, being jobless, and making her work a job for an asshole boss over dramatic epic music playing. The writers surely felt they did something here 💀💀💀
Scream and anti venom where definitely not what i expected… fighting MJ reminded me of having to fight black cat when the symbiote took her over in web of shadows
or at least, 100% written by someone claiming to "know what women think". I've seen a lot of comments here saying this was amazing, but I found it cringey as all hell. This whole sequence was garbage. I'm not sure whats worse, Spiderman crying the whole time and apologizing for being a superhero, or mary Jane throwing out every female stereotype out there. Its like, no one forced her to be with that guy. He's doing everything he can to protect the world, if she doesn't want to be a part of that world, she can get the f out. The boss battle should've just amounted to "THIS, IS MY TIME, PETER!!!!!" And him going "I don't know what you've done to Mary Jane, but I'm going to STOP YOU! LET HER GO!" And then just fight. No bitchy comments from either side, just pure, desperate combat. Thhis gith makes Mary Jane look like a Whiny, selfish woman. And makes peter sound like a b*tch. They're a team, it didn't have to be any deeper than that.
Turning MJ into Scream was a BRILLIANT idea from Insomniac. And this whole couples therapy thing was cute but at the same time I think it's also... wasted potential? Like, the whole symbiote invasion thing in the 3rd act is at the very least worth a whole separate game and the things they could've done... MJ as Scream, there was so much space for Riot, Lasher, Agony, Toxin, others... and have Peter team up with Miles and others [Black Cat? Wraith? Mr Li?] to take on Harry/Venom and at the same time race against the clock so MJ won't be consumed by the Symbiote completely. So much potential wasted, just like that.
Honestly most of the Venom hord are these symbiotes. The behemoth = Riot The purple symbiotes= Agony The Yellow Symbiotes= Phage The Green Symbiotes= Lasher
I kinda agree with what the other guy’s saying. Most of the other symbiotes you fight on the streets kinda look like phage, agony, lasher and riot as is. Now it would be a cool twist if they introduced Eddie Brock and instead of making him Venom, they made him Toxin. Maybe in DLC, who knows? But if we do get DLC, I hope Carnage is the main villain.
@@HenryLouis21 The in-game model looks closer to the writer than the original model from the 1st game. The character is a Mary Sue in the game. The character often behaves like they are in a grounded relationship rather than being in a Spider-Man story.
@@FireOccator you have no idea what the fuck a Mary Sue is because a Mary Sue is a self insert character into a story and nothing about MJ in the game makes her feel like a Mary Sue, that term has just been used to complain about women being strong and competent within a story just like the male characters. Also, a lot of the characters in the second game had updated models and the face mode they used for MJ is the same as in the first game. Also, MJ in the second game looks nothing like the writer of this. Also, do you not know any Spider-Man story? Because those who have read the comics knows that a lot of Spider-Man stories are usually focused on the relationships and Peter trying to maintain those relationships especially with MJ. Because these stories at the end of the day are stories about Peter just living with everyday problems like everyone else has.
@@HenryLouis21 "you have no idea what the fuck a Mary Sue is because a Mary Sue is a self insert character into a story and nothing about MJ in the game makes her feel like a Mary Sue, that term has just been used to complain about women being strong and competent within a story just like the male characters." Mary Sue is a character in a parody about self insert fan fiction of Star Trek. Mary Sue is similar to the writer and for no reason is in the center of the story and better than all the established characters. "Also, a lot of the characters in the second game had updated models and the face mode they used for MJ is the same as in the first game." So do you think that they changed the models or didn't change them? Which one is it? "Also, MJ in the second game looks nothing like the writer of this." The model in the 2nd game clearly strays away further from the original model and more towards the writer. This is in hair color, skin color, lip color, face shape, complexion, and teeth(which really has to be a suspicious detail that has been changed to look like the writer's teeth). If you are human and you have eyes you should be able to intuitively tell how the face has changed. "Also, do you not know any Spider-Man story? Because those who have read the comics knows that a lot of Spider-Man stories are usually focused on the relationships and Peter trying to maintain those relationships especially with MJ." In the comics, Peter had difficulty maintaining a relationship with Gwen not MJ. Also, none of that is an excuse for the fictional world's problems to revolve around Peter's romantic interest. Why would he even wear a mask at that point?
This and the Venom fight were massive sucker punches. Yuri sold those scenes perfectly. The sorrow and anguish in Peter's voice as the fights went on was heartwrenching.
Agreed. It's honestly disgusting to see Peter being treated dirty like this, practically grovelling at MJ's feet who's just girlbossing her way through things with one shot. If she's sooo angry about things, then why doesn't SHE save the city?
@@kwayneboy1524 Because here she is just one-shotting everything. Hunters, Symbiotes, even a Behemoth goes down in one hit from MJ, and that's WHEN she is caught. She's acting like Amber from the Invincible TV Series, and Kirsten Dunst MJ, where in times where Peter is trying to help people, she is trying to make it all about her.
I love how they appear to make all the Symbiote fights in this game multi-stage. It makes the player aware of the gravitas of the threat that they pose. Having said that, I think 4 phases is too long to fight a mini-boss. I get that they had a lot of dirty laundry to air out regarding the more sinister aspects of MJ & Peter's relationship, but I would have preferred a 2 phase boss then a Kojima-style cutscene. Oh well, still can't wait to get this game!
I’m kinda confused when the symbiote attaches doesn’t it change the person based on their personality cause when the symbiote bonded with Peter he didn’t become anything like venom so how come when it infected MJ she became Scream?
Man, what a waste. Scream was legit just there as a "look, youbknow her from comics, now she's in the game. Ain't we cool" and basically had no substance outside of that
I want a game where you can play as venom, (either Eddie or someone else), and you could choose to be an anti-hero or spread the Symbiote, that would be cool I feel.
1:46 how tf does Spiderman get pinned down by a fridge??? And no, you can't explain that nonsense with "he got surprised" bs. Spiderman is among the most physically strong heroes. He literally easily tosses the fridge easily, takes brutal punches from superbeings or machines, and he gets pinned down by a goddamn fridge??? It's not even the big kind of fridge wtf.
Cuz Spider-Man is nerfed very badly in this game and was not allowed to move when mj gets captured, in Spider-Man 1 game he had 14 broken bones and manages to walk it off and beats all the sinister six in 5 days Peter is 25 years old and got nerfed very badly
@@FunnyRedemption Are you trolling? Because I refuse to believe you're being this stupid not on purpose. Spiderman is literally physically stronger than Ironman 🤦♂️Spiderman can literally lift an entire building.
@@al6243 The only stupid one is the one I'm replying to right now. My comment has nothing to do with strength. You can be whatever strong character you want, strength doesn't equal durability. Spider-Man is wearing a spandex suit, if a fridge falls on your head, what do you think will happen? Give you superpowers?
"I dont want to hurt you!"
Says Spidy while doing a sick 12-hit combo on her.
He doesn't want to... But as MCU Hulk once said, "Big Monster!"
I mean he doesn't want to hurt her... doesn't mean he won't.
😂
Well, he didn't say, "I won't hurt you"
Man, couples therapy is rough these days.
5:28 truly an " ow my back,my back" moment
Yeah😂 realized that toooo
From tobey maguire spiderman 2 2004.
Bro when I saw that scene I was like, “GOD DAMN HOW IS HE NOT PARALYZED?”
Nah because even I winced at that. 😖
He did the Family Guy pose
I’d like to imagine the Scream symbionte getting inside MJ’s head and going
“Hooooly shit. You two need to air out your shit. Don’t worry girl we got this.”
When you’re an introvert and your extrovert friend decides to talk some sense into your lover
When you get rid of the murderous intentions a symbiote would probably be a good use for therapy. Just airing out all your shit.
@@CyberSonic-V3.0 Now this is something that I can get behind on.
8:32 “Yeah, pay yo bills Peter!”😂😂
That’s kind of true
Rennnnt!
@@GHOSTRIDER373737"You'll get your rent money when you fix this goddamn door!"
MJ was just airing out her laundry 😂😂
Hey it wasn't always easy for Peter and He wasn't himself and now the symbiote is controlling Harry and MJ save her Pete.
I feel bad for laughing at the “NOBODY READ IT!” When he brought up her book 😭
😭😭😭🤣
writer of the game def feeling some type of way
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Never thought we’d see Scream in modern media. Well done, Insomniac.
I mean, we did see her in “Let There Be Carnage”, but this one is more comic accurate.
In "Let There Be Carnage" was Shriek - Scream appears in first movie only in symbiote form(bonded with bunny)
@@spiderjosuke And then, it died :/
Thats not scream in let there be carnage. Thats just shriek. Scream has yet to appear in live action
@@hesseldv57Depends. Scream has never appeared properly, but her yellow Symbiote made a cameo in Venom 2018.
@@The94Venom Sadly(
The bystanders listening to them talk while they fight:
Bystander: Spider Man is dating THAT thing?
@@Dr.Gaming98did anyone heard their true names?
@@Dr.Gaming98Random neighbor: I'm so jealous
@@archangeruriseofthewizards8649 Oh shit
Inb4 retroactive plot point in MSM3
5:45 Damn they put my parents dialogue lines in the new Spider-Man game, awesome!
Venom: "Show him what he's missing "
* Scream Takes Spider-Man on a real estate tour of impossibly expensive houses because of inflation*
Reliving trauma! AWSOME
seeing scream in this game was my highlight. i did NOT expect her to appear. so awesome.
Same
@@Zatanna_editsthat happened before
I didn't expect we'd get to play as Venom
Igs, but how is maryjane? A normal bystander, like everyone else, is able to get the suit off, but Spiderman can't Miles had to do it for him
That Harry to Venom transition is Amazing
The whole game itself is absolutely amazing!
PS5 hardware, baby
Is it tho? The slime texture looks super artificial
@thepessimisticgamer91hell no
@thepessimisticgamer91your username justifies your characteristics
i love how the symbiote is actually a direct reflection of repressed thoughts of their subconcious mind. It in a way makes them let those supressed feelings out. Its like id taking control. And people like mj or peter are the ones that are mostly led by their super ego, responsability and duty, while their id, their more primal and natural feelings are often suppressed, which leads them to have less control over it. Only when they made a bridge between their id and super ego, which is a genuine care of their interest (in mj's and peters case, their compassion) and will, they could get rid of the symbiote.
Mj's face is so angular, manly jaw and has a huge nose, intentionally making her extra caricatural in her face's features it's very funny.
@@Tigerheartycool, no one asked
This is great way of explaining the symbiotic portrayal in Spider-Man 2 and It’s definitely one of my favorite portrayals of the symbiote
What a way to incorporate ID, Ego, and Superego into a game.
@@Tigerheartydon't care
Scream Symbiote Vs Spidey is a real life Angry wife vs Confused Husband scenario, I died multiple times laughing my ass off
Yup
Let's also not forget how much trauma the symbiote causes for Peter afterwards. While under the symbiote's influence, he pushed away his friends and repeatedly did things that went against his entire philosophy of being Spider Man. He's coping with the fact that he failed to save Aunt May and Harry could also die and nearly killed Miles. And now, the symbiote's fully taken over his best friend, who's now causing mass destruction throughout the whole city. So by the time the fight against Scream hits, Peter can't even quip or fight back when Scream tries to psychologically torture him by using words it thinks MJ would say to him. He's at his lowest emotional point now and he just wants this whole mess to be over. All he can do is apologize over and over because after everything that's happened Peter is beginning to think that everything really could be his fault.
Peter really took the worst asswhooping both physically and emotionally.
So much detail to this comment. No one has time to read it
Yeah. People really need to tell the poor guy that it’s not all his fault.
Damm didn't think about it like that but she really was spouting the most bullshit though
@Infinity-has Someone made a parody where Aunt Mays ghost roast MJ.
I love how the dialogue during this fight is basically just MJ calling Peter a bum lmao
said bum sadly has saving all of humanity as a day job
@@magnoliy08And not getting paid for it worst of all.
@@thelouster5815i was always confused about that why not pay him 😂
Did MJ actually fling herself in front of Pete to protect him? 😂
She's got heart
At least she sorta tried sacrificing herself to save pete even though that hit would mean nothing to him but the action really tells us how much she loves pete
@@reg1019 I was thinking this^^^ That your immediate instinct/reflex is to protect your significant other or child without any consideration for your own safety...or course people have to get all anti-woke about it 🙄 I suppose Quicksilver threw himself in front of Hawkeye to save him in Avengers because he was gay for him too then?
@@GorcStewconsidering it’s the WOKE MCU nowadays? Wouldn’t be suprised if THATS how it was retconned😑
@@SPEEDFORCE99 😂
Can't trust the Symbiote Alien it's too evil
“My back!” 5:28 holy shit this game is GOATED lmfao with small Easter eggs lol even the grunt lmfao
Holy crap, I LOVE how they handle Scream’s aesthetic! Truly feels like an Eldritch monstrosity or something, I’m so with it
She looks similar to Abeloth from Star wars legends
Symbiote Mary Jane had a point when she said" I was looking for answers leads, cuz you can't pay a bill or you lost your job" I was like damn she been wanted to say that. This was therapeutic for her.
Ah yes, Answer Leads which involve printing libel.
@@SpideyfanX exactly why she hates it
Kinda like Slander, she resents that.
I'd never thought seeing MJ as a symboite would be involved in this game, but this is one of the best scenes to a Spider-Man game.
The only thing I hate about this game is what they did to the voice actors and their faces. Mj looks soo much better in the first Spiderman, and it fits her. Same with Peter, he looks terrible now compared to the first game, which made him look way more authentic than this tom holland knock off.
@@shad0wkn19ht9tbf i like this mj better than the one in the first game but what they did to peter is dirty
@quietdomiii6544 Yeah, it breaks immersion, and I like the first peter looks way more real, than the Tom holland knock off they gave us in the second game.They took them from being adults to looking like teenagers. Like wtf Peter needs to look older due to him mentoring a teenage miles morales. I think they really missed the mark on that.
@@shad0wkn19ht9 couldnt have said it better
@@shad0wkn19ht9 It's been three years since they changed the face and you still complaining like a child? He looks much better here. He looks nothing like Tom Holland. It's your fault for letting the face distract cause it didn't to me.
I love this boss fight it's definitely in my top 3. This boss has meaning to it because MJ getting corrupted by the Symbiote and turning into Scream. Along with that the voice actors were going STUPID in this boss fight. So much emotion and the music fit pretty well.
And it also serves a great narrative to their couples therapy.
The dialogue was atrocious tho
@@doomguydemonkiller Nah, I absolutely loved the dialogue in that whole boss fight. Hearing Peter screaming at MJ to fight against the symbiote. Along with hearing MJ screaming back at Peter with pure hatred of always being there for him but she gets nothing back in return. That's the main reason why I love this whole boss because it's not just the gameplay that makes me feel emersed into the boss fight it's the dialogue and passion that you see the characters have during the fight. For example Raiden VS Armstrong in MGRR, Dante VS Vergil in Dmc3 and 5, Asura VS Chakravartin in Asura's Wrath, and Kratos VS Zeus in God of War 3. But that's just my opinion.
@@thenorthernglacierI agree man, the Voice Acting is the cherry on top here. This game is probably one of the best VA work i ever saw in these last years
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WE GETTING DOMESTIC DISPUTE OF THE YEAR WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥
“MEANWHILE THIS SPIDER IS PUTTIN HANDS ON ME” 🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
"Scream" is a subtle reference to what MJ was doing in the majority of the Raimi Spider-man movies.
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That combo at 12:36 😮💨🔥🔥
Not really a combo
This was a great fight, and awesome to see Scream. Especially loved how Peter and ScreaMJ worked together in the end, to get the symbiote off.
“ScreaMJ” goes hard bruh
5:27 AHH my back my back
That would’ve been way funnier if his back body hit on the car.
Spider-Man 2 movie easter egg.🤣
This whole fight was just couples/regular therapy. That is and isn't a joke. This fight made Peter realize he hadn't been treating Mary Jane as well as he should have and had taken her for granted. Meanwhile Mary Jane realized she had been trying to be someone she's not and it wasn't making her happy, which is why she began her own podcast at the end
Spider-Man: Baby I can change!
*gets a car thrown at him*
Scream: YOU CAN'T EVEN KEEP A JOB, LET ALONE PAY A MORTGAGE!!!
That one neighbor: Spider-Man was dating THAT thing? 👀 And I thought I've seen everything in New York.
It was, but I'd say it was...superhero therapy. After all, only superheroes have therapy include alien or magical possession that leads to emotional catharsis and the relationship being mended.
I’m convinced that one of writers got mad at there partner so they took out there anger at this game
actually MJ had absolutely nothing to complain about. Peter is a goddamn hero who risks his life every day for others and for her. Even in the first game she put herself in dangerous situations like an idiot not realising that it was Peter that would have to get into fights to save her skin.
That’s the worst part about this fight. Peter is nothing but good to her
The symbiote would be a good therapist coz it's good at making people confront their issues,mj and Peter had a lot of issues that were built up at the beginning and only got worse as they both ignored it. Miles has problems as well but he was able to move on in a different way
It sounds like the type of therapist that would tell me to kill my boss whenever he pisses me off
@@kwayneboy1524 meh nobody's perfect
I mean only if their both symbiotes lol
I was expecting venom , but man I didn’t expected we’re going this deep into symbiote lore
It’s so cool seeing other people like MJ use the symbiote
Really hope she gets to use it in the next game.
@@willhicks7027god that would be so awesome
@@willhicks7027SPOILER ALERT!!!
The Symbiote Died After Peter Save her but there is her mind might still have symbiote subconscious and peter might able to change it to anti symbiote
@@rzgamingdarwin3348Martin Li’s gonna have to get involved again to do that.
I actually wonder what type of pain do the symbiotes and their hosts feel when exposed to sonic vibrations or loud sounds. Does it feel like burning, pinching, stinging, breaking, bleeding?
Don’t know much but from reading a few comics and seeing some shit in cartoons or movies, my guess it’s like being paralyzed when it gets too tough to handle, that and the having the symbiote probably trying to tear itself out from you to get away from whatever the loud sound is
I guess like having all your nerves being pulled as the suit is pulling itself out of you
@@kwayneboy1524 yea that’s what I always felt it was like. On the inside it’s like something piercing it’s way out, while on the outside it’s probably like ripping a second set of skin off
I figure it's like the WORST kind of headache and body ache, like when you're sick and feel like every inch of you is in pain!
@@sethfeldpausch4337 from how shit seems, that’s pretty accurate to what usually happens
"You're a wizard Harry."
"We are not harry. We. Are. Venom."
"You're a Wizard, Venom."
Correct Madam
1:55 Venom down bad making MJ feel his 19 inch venom
😂🤣You wrong for that 😂🤣
Bro was packin a kaiju in there 😂
This game does pretty much everything Spider-Man 3 movie does but better. Evil Harry, venom symbiotes from space, mj resenting Peter. Her book is just like her play in that movie. Except they actually have the characters resolve their resentments while also having an awesome action scene instead of just having mj be captured and rescued and just sweeping all the resentments under the rug.
It’s the Ultimate Spiderman episode with the symbiotes but better.
Smash or pass?
Smash
SMASH.
Smash but I would be scared the entire time. The teeth and tentacles are hella risky.
Nahhh, who let these people cook💀
Smash
@@pasahanyazici9213That’s the best part
I love how they actually treat the symbiotes like alien parasites. That control you twist your anger and fears
If this wasn’t spider man game with Spider-Man characters it would still be a horror/invasion movie
They're not parasites. They're mutalistic symbiotes, they give great strength and power but feed off negative emotions. If they were parasites they would just do the latter.
@@platinumvoid1648 it’s a comic book universe so of course they make it to where it gives you strength and powers. But at its core it’s still parasitic because it needs to attach/bond with a host.
@@afr0cuban57 That's not what being a parasite means.
@@afr0cuban57 The symbiote and host benefit from eachother, so by definition it's not a parasitic relationship.
@@platinumvoid1648MY brother in christ the Venom Symbiote, literally hijacked Pete's body while he was sleeping.
Im so happy to see that they brought another rare symbiote like Scream, even in game, we didnt saw any of other rare symbiotes transformations ever since Riot in Venom movie if im not wrong
Man, i would love to see Phage, Lasher and Agony in some game or movie
They're technically in this game since all the symbiote enemy designs are inspired by the other Life Foundation symbiotes
He finally said it We Are Venom
The neighbors:💀💀😐😐💀💀💀
Peter: "Don't listen to those voices, they aren't telling the truth"
Me: No MJ listen to them, look at the career of Randy Orton and how far he was able to get by listening to the voices in his head
14:27 memers, you know what to do
Played this mission with the classic black suit purple variant still had that web of shadows and Ultimate Spider-Man in me after all these years
15:28 YEAH! You tell him MJ! 👏 ❤
Literally my favorite moment in that game ❤
@tamariomartin9080 Mine too she was NOT gonna help that jerk trash the man she loves his hate for Spider-Man cost him both a photographer and reporter 🕷❤️
@@jeronimomcdisneyhero5868 im gonna say that the science teacher and jonah jameson deserve each other for their jerkish ways because tails from sonic lost world is better by comparison at least, he shut down the generator and helping sonic, but these two, oh no like i'm gonna throw these two in the trash for crushing my dreams in.
@@masonwalsh3546 Go for it
1:56 that looks sooooo wrong whatchu finna make her do down there my guy
😂🤣stop it😂🤣
Ayooo..😂😂😂😂
Shawty got a VVC 😂
The story in this already feels 10 ten times more a better Venom movie than the Venom movies we've been getting.
Yes with the feminist rant inserted LMAO
@Powerhaus88 At least this game had more Rated R scenes than Let There Be Carnage, with them shoving the LGBTQ Pride message down our throats with Eddie and Venom's symbiosis. We get it, Sony!
@@sebastianemond5313
It's sad there weren't more LGBT flags on every single street, but they nailed the portland liberal npcs down.
I still loved the venom movies
8:09 I Know everyone is focused on the fight Believe me I am
But Got Damn Scream Looking hella Thick
You're doing your best, king
Ugh.🤦🏿♂️
I’ll pay for your therapy
We need to go for a walk bro....
Kind of funny how the symbiote was therapeutic for MJ and Peter as they had to acknowledge all the issues in their relationship.
3:28 "This is about me" "And for once, not about you"
looks like
"This isn't not about you, this is about me" from MJ in Raimi Spiderman 3 Movie
I like that it was actually about MJ tho, since this whole fight is hee voicing her feelings and rage
This was the most unexpected thing for me to come out of this game and i fucking loved every second of it.
Y’all gotta admit like the fact they decided to put Scream in the game and implement it so well is amazing. After this game Insomniac is legit on Rocksteady level when it comes to comic to video game adaptations! Bruh im hyped for the Wolverine game
I would say they are on par with rocksteady if Spider-Man 2 didn’t have so much woke garbage.
@@MikeKaz02I’m guessing you came from Reddit
@@MikeKaz02 I don’t like all that gay shit they had in the game 😂😂
he's right.@@cooldude2027
@@MikeKaz02 and what woke garbage was that?
Because if it was there I just unconsciously ignored it
Scream's dialogue in this fight was so cringe, it would make Stan Lee turn in his grave.
The worst part is Peter constantly apologizing and trying to validate her feelings. I swear insomniac Peter is so spineless.
@@BusterScruggs554 he's shouldn't feel bad for punching his girlfriend?
@@walkintobrickwallsfordays8756 not when she's covered in a bloodthirsty symbiote.
@@BusterScruggs554 the worse he wasn't a crybaby like this in the first game. In this game he constantly screams on the top of his lungs, while in previous game only when fighting doc Oc.
Wokewriters just blatantly spitted on Stan's legacy.
this could have been great, but I hate how Pete emasculates himself, even if MJ somewhat has those feelings a little bit deep down that Scream brought out in her he went way overboard on taking all the blame and putting her on a pedestal. This is exactly the kind of behavior that would make a woman leave you in real life cause she doesn't see you as a man anymore.
What the hell are you even on about? In what way did this game emasculate Peter, you saying that really shows how fragile your own masculinity is. And never did this game out Peter down to put MJ in a pedestal. Also, you say this as if you have any idea how real world relationships work and that women will somehow leave you for some weird reason.
I know from past relationships and from all straight women I have known is that they usually like masculinity and they like self respect. @@HenryLouis21
What's wrong with apologizing it's a healthy thing to do.
@@spikepsychand that wasn't here how?
Symbiote MJ looks better than her usual form
EXACTLY!
5:35 I bought this game for escapism, not to argue with my wife again 😂
Man I love the environment destructions . This game is more like a Spider Man movie which you can control basically .
Not gonna one of funniest thing about this movie is the self insert design by one of writers. Had a whole model for Mary Jane but still designed her to be a self insert.
A domestic dispute for the ages
Peter: “I love you Mary Jane!”
*combos the fuck outta her*
how could anyone take the dialogue seriously coming from Scream? it's like poorly written girlfriend writing a boss fight after having a fight with her boyfriend
I love the dialogues in their fights, it weirdly reflects the reason why my ex and I broke up, in a metaphoric way.
People complain about it, but it’s the best thing about the fight, her lines cut deep
@@necrosis6037but it would be hard to be with that person because symbiote probably makes you say what your truly feeling
If feminism was a symbiote 😂
It basically is.
it's just your typical relationship argument.
This is the best boss in the game. Scream as mj make so much sense and work’s better than mj being carnage not that it was bad I loved ultimate spider man and that mj is probably my favorite beside insomniac which is the best most healthy mj we seen relationship wise the way scream is a reflection of mj inner demons and pushes Peter down breaking him mentally is done perfectly the design for scream is the best we seen her she lasted perfectly and not overdone and I hope silence is a playable character next game or dlc so we can get the symbiote powers again and because mj and silence characters are good
yeah there relationship is good
Todd: And now, have her call Jonah right after the fight, so he can be told off for a slay boss moment. The kids will love it.
Bob: You don't think that's cringe or contrived at all?? Maybe since MJ was being such a bitch to Peter for his attitude while Symbiote-fied, knowing he wasn't in total control? Maybe instead of instantly validating her after the fight, have her apologize for making him grovel over the phone for something he couldn't control?
Todd: Huh? oh nono, we'll have her be sorry and brush over it, we won't dwell on it anywhere near like we did to Peter. For MJ, what she'll learn is she's special. Peter learns he needs to do better. I mean he did try to kill her!
Bob: Just like she was trying to kill him this entire time, while verbally assaulting him the entire fight?
Todd: Bob, buddy, pal, my friend. I think we need to re-evaluate your place at this company...
This is why i despise this MJ
Scream's face looks more attractive than MJ's..
WTF😂🤣😂🤣
I hate this game, they made Pete look like 16 yars old kid, he also got beaten by MJ in a suit, Jesus. Not to mention they made her ugly even without a suit, I can't find a reason why they did it.
LMAO, he got stopped by a fridge 💀
Weak af 💀
My guy he literally threw it off 💀
@@brothsipper-h5o, after like a minute 💀
@@RustamBainazarova minute has 60 seconds, where do you see 60 seconds in that scene?
@@FunnyRedemption, figure of speech is just a figure of speech to you, I see 😂
*He just let’s that symbiote go, and that’s the one carnage finds*
Cletus is in another part of the game. The missions with Yuri end with him getting a container with a red symbiote in it and flying off in a chopper
No carnage is the flame side missions
@@VisForVindettaWas that Cletus? I thought it was just some cult leader
@@popeyeschicken3535yeah yuri calls you afterwards and confirms that he has multiple aliases including “cletus kassidy”
@@popeyeschicken3535yup, Cletus is an alias tho. But honestly, it was in the back of my mind the whole time if "the flame" was cassidy. It was how he talked and behaved. I was looking for the red hair but it was always eithet in shadow or over saturated by the glow of fire so i could never tell lol😊
Imagine if either in a DLC Expansion or in the third game that MJ still has the symbiote within her body and she decides to speak to Dr. Connors to run some tests with her, turning the symbiote as her own as she becomes the Ultimate Spiderwoman, just like in the Ultimate show.
Hope not because that part of the Ultimate show was the worst and that show was bad in general. It was just another example of Disney Marvel Spider-Man not being able to write Peter’s side characters without turning them into superheroes
Why did MJ think it was a good idea for her to jump between Peter and Venom's attack
Not wanting him get infected with the Symbiote again since she has a fear from Black Suit Peter
It's literally obviously a subconscious action. Her body moved on her own because she wants Peter safe. It's just a nitpick to call it out as not smart.
Love makes you do crazy shit
Nigga shit blew me
- It’s Because She’s MJ, She’s Been Doing This Shit Since The 70’s 😂😂😂
I mean, ofc Peter is more important, the game is called Spider-Man 2, not MJ 2, right? The truth is MJ is only a side character and it should stay that way.
Exactly. Spiderman is a HERO, who SAVES the world. If you can't support that, then its not the hero that needs to apologize, its MJ if anything.
Half of this game's side activities also have nothing to do with being spiderman it's all riding bikes, playing as other characters with no powers, using some stupid drone to chase around birds, it's like they went out of their way to make this game have as little spiderman in it as possible.
@@DeadEndScreamer Yea, that is such a wierd game decision. "Lets make a superhero game where you get to play as normal people with no powers" because marketing
@@DeadEndScreamerAh yes let's focus on some secondary optional missions and 10 minutes from a main mission and ignore the rest of the game where we fight hunters, giant ahh lizard, Kraven, a symbiote infestation etc. Truly a game that has nothing to do with being Spider-Man 👏😐
@@FunnyRedemption Yeah a game where one of the final missions is playing as manly jane in a third person shooter segment, truly this is the spiderman game of all time.
After the 4th round I was like “How much of this ass whooping can you endure”
This is the most unintentionally funniest shit ever. The gf fighting the guy for not paying his bills, being jobless, and making her work a job for an asshole boss over dramatic epic music playing. The writers surely felt they did something here 💀💀💀
Feminist rant
So Mj saved herself....stunning and brave.
Scream and anti venom where definitely not what i expected… fighting MJ reminded me of having to fight black cat when the symbiote took her over in web of shadows
This is an accurate representation of when I get home and she has not started dinner
She tries to choke you out with her hair? *kinky*
You beat your gf?
😳😳😳
@@Eidlones yeah with a bike chain it’s our religious tradition
@@imnotacannibal So edgy. Damn you're cool. I wish I was you.
The dialogue in this boss fight is 100% written by a Female
or at least, 100% written by someone claiming to "know what women think".
I've seen a lot of comments here saying this was amazing, but I found it cringey as all hell. This whole sequence was garbage. I'm not sure whats worse, Spiderman crying the whole time and apologizing for being a superhero, or mary Jane throwing out every female stereotype out there.
Its like, no one forced her to be with that guy. He's doing everything he can to protect the world, if she doesn't want to be a part of that world, she can get the f out. The boss battle should've just amounted to "THIS, IS MY TIME, PETER!!!!!"
And him going "I don't know what you've done to Mary Jane, but I'm going to STOP YOU! LET HER GO!" And then just fight.
No bitchy comments from either side, just pure, desperate combat.
Thhis gith makes Mary Jane look like a Whiny, selfish woman. And makes peter sound like a b*tch. They're a team, it didn't have to be any deeper than that.
And it's awful
Weird how she became 100x more attractive like this.
What the hell bro💀💀
Yup
Haha lol she definitely looked like she was suffering with insomnia in this game.
Hands down my favorite boss fight in the entire game
It’s okay I guess. The Lizard and Mr Negative were better than this
Agreed
@@doomguydemonkiller can completely get that, I think for me it was the dialogue exchange between Peter and mj that really hit home for me.
Lizard, Kraven and Venom fights were best. This fight was pretty good but a bit frustrating.
It was ass lol honestly the first was superior to this whole game
12:02 I honestly have to give such praise to the VA’s of this game.
5:17 We're going to need a bigger horn!!!!!!!!
I ain't gonna lie, MJ as Scream is kinda hot.
Turning MJ into Scream was a BRILLIANT idea from Insomniac. And this whole couples therapy thing was cute but at the same time I think it's also... wasted potential? Like, the whole symbiote invasion thing in the 3rd act is at the very least worth a whole separate game and the things they could've done... MJ as Scream, there was so much space for Riot, Lasher, Agony, Toxin, others... and have Peter team up with Miles and others [Black Cat? Wraith? Mr Li?] to take on Harry/Venom and at the same time race against the clock so MJ won't be consumed by the Symbiote completely. So much potential wasted, just like that.
Honestly most of the Venom hord are these symbiotes.
The behemoth = Riot
The purple symbiotes= Agony
The Yellow Symbiotes= Phage
The Green Symbiotes= Lasher
I kinda agree with what the other guy’s saying. Most of the other symbiotes you fight on the streets kinda look like phage, agony, lasher and riot as is. Now it would be a cool twist if they introduced Eddie Brock and instead of making him Venom, they made him Toxin. Maybe in DLC, who knows? But if we do get DLC, I hope Carnage is the main villain.
The writer's self insert rant boss battle.
In what way makes you think that MJ is literally an insert of the writer herself?
@@HenryLouis21 The in-game model looks closer to the writer than the original model from the 1st game. The character is a Mary Sue in the game. The character often behaves like they are in a grounded relationship rather than being in a Spider-Man story.
@@FireOccator you have no idea what the fuck a Mary Sue is because a Mary Sue is a self insert character into a story and nothing about MJ in the game makes her feel like a Mary Sue, that term has just been used to complain about women being strong and competent within a story just like the male characters. Also, a lot of the characters in the second game had updated models and the face mode they used for MJ is the same as in the first game. Also, MJ in the second game looks nothing like the writer of this. Also, do you not know any Spider-Man story? Because those who have read the comics knows that a lot of Spider-Man stories are usually focused on the relationships and Peter trying to maintain those relationships especially with MJ. Because these stories at the end of the day are stories about Peter just living with everyday problems like everyone else has.
@@HenryLouis21 "you have no idea what the fuck a Mary Sue is because a Mary Sue is a self insert character into a story and nothing about MJ in the game makes her feel like a Mary Sue, that term has just been used to complain about women being strong and competent within a story just like the male characters."
Mary Sue is a character in a parody about self insert fan fiction of Star Trek. Mary Sue is similar to the writer and for no reason is in the center of the story and better than all the established characters.
"Also, a lot of the characters in the second game had updated models and the face mode they used for MJ is the same as in the first game."
So do you think that they changed the models or didn't change them? Which one is it?
"Also, MJ in the second game looks nothing like the writer of this."
The model in the 2nd game clearly strays away further from the original model and more towards the writer. This is in hair color, skin color, lip color, face shape, complexion, and teeth(which really has to be a suspicious detail that has been changed to look like the writer's teeth). If you are human and you have eyes you should be able to intuitively tell how the face has changed.
"Also, do you not know any Spider-Man story? Because those who have read the comics knows that a lot of Spider-Man stories are usually focused on the relationships and Peter trying to maintain those relationships especially with MJ."
In the comics, Peter had difficulty maintaining a relationship with Gwen not MJ. Also, none of that is an excuse for the fictional world's problems to revolve around Peter's romantic interest. Why would he even wear a mask at that point?
@@FireOccatorthe intern writer somehow had enough pull to do that really?
Let's be fair, Peter is dating down with this new MJ...
0:43 “this isn’t you”
“Wrong. This is the real me”
1:26 “Harry..”
“We are not Harry”
But you just said..
This and the Venom fight were massive sucker punches. Yuri sold those scenes perfectly. The sorrow and anguish in Peter's voice as the fights went on was heartwrenching.
Wow never thought Scream would be in this game & look exactly how she does in the comics, I might buy her funko pop she's 🔥
Did the writer just break up with their boyfriend or something? The dialogue is so bad.
Agreed. It's honestly disgusting to see Peter being treated dirty like this, practically grovelling at MJ's feet who's just girlbossing her way through things with one shot. If she's sooo angry about things, then why doesn't SHE save the city?
@@SpideyfanXI mean how is this different than regular symbiote spider-man?
@@kwayneboy1524 Because here she is just one-shotting everything. Hunters, Symbiotes, even a Behemoth goes down in one hit from MJ, and that's WHEN she is caught. She's acting like Amber from the Invincible TV Series, and Kirsten Dunst MJ, where in times where Peter is trying to help people, she is trying to make it all about her.
I would love to see MJ in a beautiful wedding dress in Marvel’s Spider-Man 3.
Cringe
Not this MJ.
I love how they appear to make all the Symbiote fights in this game multi-stage. It makes the player aware of the gravitas of the threat that they pose. Having said that, I think 4 phases is too long to fight a mini-boss. I get that they had a lot of dirty laundry to air out regarding the more sinister aspects of MJ & Peter's relationship, but I would have preferred a 2 phase boss then a Kojima-style cutscene. Oh well, still can't wait to get this game!
I still can't believe that they put her in the game wow
You get to beat MJ in this game?
Hell ya.
Literely this boss fight
MJ - tell how shitty Peter is
Peter - ALL GAME "I'M SORRY!!!😭😭"
5:26 that is the most painful thing he has probably taken
I'm surprise MJ has a symbiote version I'm surprised by this when venom infected her.
I’m kinda confused when the symbiote attaches doesn’t it change the person based on their personality cause when the symbiote bonded with Peter he didn’t become anything like venom so how come when it infected MJ she became Scream?
I love the way Harry says “Wrong” it gets me every time.
6:15
I know the fnaf fans thought that she was gonna say “I always come back” 😝
Man, what a waste. Scream was legit just there as a "look, youbknow her from comics, now she's in the game. Ain't we cool" and basically had no substance outside of that
What did you expect?
you missed the point, goober
yeah, Scream's first host was supposed to be a mentally ill woman... oh, wait
She looks better as scream.
Well, she got rid of that symbiote. Now Scream is dead.
Based
I want a game where you can play as venom, (either Eddie or someone else), and you could choose to be an anti-hero or spread the Symbiote, that would be cool I feel.
1:46 how tf does Spiderman get pinned down by a fridge??? And no, you can't explain that nonsense with "he got surprised" bs. Spiderman is among the most physically strong heroes. He literally easily tosses the fridge easily, takes brutal punches from superbeings or machines, and he gets pinned down by a goddamn fridge??? It's not even the big kind of fridge wtf.
Cuz Spider-Man is nerfed very badly in this game and was not allowed to move when mj gets captured, in Spider-Man 1 game he had 14 broken bones and manages to walk it off and beats all the sinister six in 5 days Peter is 25 years old and got nerfed very badly
Because he's Spider-MAN not IRONman. Have you ever tried pulling or lifting a fridge? That thing is heavier than you'll ever be.
@@FunnyRedemption Are you trolling? Because I refuse to believe you're being this stupid not on purpose. Spiderman is literally physically stronger than Ironman 🤦♂️Spiderman can literally lift an entire building.
@@al6243 The only stupid one is the one I'm replying to right now. My comment has nothing to do with strength. You can be whatever strong character you want, strength doesn't equal durability. Spider-Man is wearing a spandex suit, if a fridge falls on your head, what do you think will happen? Give you superpowers?