Coming from a more synth design background, on the split path, putting the filter and delay between the two reverbs creates different tones to the reverb.
I've seen guys use side path reverb for weirdness- bitcrushers, arpeggiators, freezes, etc. which is cool if you're going for ambient stuff. This is the beauty of modelers! Routing options galore.
Really dig your videos and the tones you get. Just picked up a HX Stomp and your vids have been an amazing tool to learn to navigate it. Most appreciated!
It also might be a good idea to separate Delay and Reverb into two paths to keep the delay more clean and focussed. This way you don't wash out your delay repetitions in reverb. Need to check myself if this works as intended on the Stomp.
Another great use of the split path is the split crossover. I put it at 300 hz and "reverse" mode and run the Ganymede on path B to compensate for the fact that it doesn't have low cut. Really helps take some of the mud out of the reverb.
@@HeyWorshipLeader My pleasure. I've been playing in church for 40 years now. It's great to have people share their ideas/perspectives/knowledge. Helps me keep my playing fresh. Keeps me out of getting stuck in a rut. I love serving through music and continuing to push the envelope is part of the joy. So keep the videos coming.
I'm learning so much with your videos! Wouldn't some of your reverb presets sound better this way? I tried this tecnique on the PLX Shimmer Sub preset and I thought so ;)
Yeah, I noticed some subtle differences as well...but I think it's just because I couldn't dial it in exactly. This video is much more scientific: ua-cam.com/video/6uZpaP-taYw/v-deo.html
Your original sounds better actually they don’t sound the same the 2nd one has the elements the tIming of how the reverb affects the signal seems to be more immediate in your secret sauce preset so I’m copying that idea. GREAT JOB YOU FOUND SOMETHING VERY COOL BRO !
Yeah, I felt the same way...but I honestly think it's how hard I picked the string...did you watch Jason Sadites videos on this topic...very compelling
If you dont know who Jason Sadites is, you arent a TRUE Helix fanboy :) and BTW its pronounced "SAY-DYTES" (2 syllables). and you definitely need to watch ALL his videos as he has some amazing info on how to get the best sounds out of your Helix/Line 6 product and has given away so so many free killer presets on Custom Tone as well as many paid ones too. He is a true guitar icon who has played with some legendary players over the years.
i have a roland jc 22, it got fx loops and can work in parallel. my goal is to get two signals at the same time, one with compressor, distortions, etc (everything before the fx loops block in my hx) and my delays and modulations i want them clean, 100% wet... but when i set them 100% wet no matter what i do the delay is repeating with distortion... in parallel without using distortion before the fx loop, the sound is perfect, i want the clean delay parallel mixed with the distorted guitar. any clues on what i'm missing here? i mean it has to be possible to do what i intend or is it really necessary to use two amps to get this 100% wet + 100% dry setup that i'm trying to get?
Is it possible on the HX stomp to create a fx loop if your amp doesn’t have one so that way the reverb and delay don’t mix with the distortion ? If the HX stomp is running front of the amp?
i have to know, how accurate are the HD600 (or whichever) headphones are to your stage sound. I have a very tough time with the major differences between home and stage regardless of my monitor of choice. however, my studio monitor (entry level JBL) are closest, but not always practical to use. or is it just the name of the game and you have a sunday tone and a home tone?
They work really well for me. I never need to make adjustments...although I play the same location every weekend. The only change I'll make from time to time is how thick a reverb to use. But the tone is always spot on
Mod chorus echo and reverb in a parallel path is the best ambient tone. One of my first videos of quarantine was this topic 🤘
gonna try this sometime
@@iriveramusic its THE best tone from helix. I have a few videos using it
I def gotta try that! I can't wait to make some more cool sounds. Love your videos dude!
Steve - video link please. thanks brother. Hope you are well... Long time I know
Thanks for the follow-up and the shout-out! I feel internet famous now :). I always learn a ton from your videos.
You ARE internet famous! haha...Thanks man, and thanks for commenting!
I was so confused about the concept but still fascinated by the technique, now I finally get it! Thanks man! I've learnt so so much from you!
Happy to help!
amazing ambient tones you really got that parallel path thing nailed
thanks man
Coming from a more synth design background, on the split path, putting the filter and delay between the two reverbs creates different tones to the reverb.
great idea!
I've seen guys use side path reverb for weirdness- bitcrushers, arpeggiators, freezes, etc. which is cool if you're going for ambient stuff. This is the beauty of modelers! Routing options galore.
For real... I would've never been able to play around with this kind of stuff with my traditional rig
Really dig your videos and the tones you get. Just picked up a HX Stomp and your vids have been an amazing tool to learn to navigate it. Most appreciated!
Wow, man! thanks for the encouragement!
It also might be a good idea to separate Delay and Reverb into two paths to keep the delay more clean and focussed. This way you don't wash out your delay repetitions in reverb. Need to check myself if this works as intended on the Stomp.
Definitely. That's what I was trying to show by having one delay on the a path and one on the b path. Makes a huge difference! Thanks for watching!
Another great use of the split path is the split crossover. I put it at 300 hz and "reverse" mode and run the Ganymede on path B to compensate for the fact that it doesn't have low cut. Really helps take some of the mud out of the reverb.
Def gonna try this!
I had the same thought when I saw your last video but figured to each his own. All good brother. We all make mistakes and mis-speak.
amen!
That 0dB on the B channel took me right into heaven haha, great video man, thank you very much!(not just for taking me to heaven xd)
Glad you enjoyed! And thanks for Watching!
Thanks for digging into this mistake. I learned a lot. Great explanation. Keep pushing forward and making mistakes!! That's how you learn.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@@HeyWorshipLeader My pleasure. I've been playing in church for 40 years now. It's great to have people share their ideas/perspectives/knowledge. Helps me keep my playing fresh. Keeps me out of getting stuck in a rut. I love serving through music and continuing to push the envelope is part of the joy. So keep the videos coming.
what the parallel allows you to do is to bypass other effects with the reverb..
Awesome video thanks for sharing your videos are really helpful and inspiring. Blessings to you and your ministry.
Thank you! You too!
I have a Poly effects Digit and a Source Audio Ventris in the fx loop of my HX Stomp. Possibilities are endless with series and parallel
I bet dude! That's a sweet set up
I'm learning so much with your videos! Wouldn't some of your reverb presets sound better this way? I tried this tecnique on the PLX Shimmer Sub preset and I thought so ;)
Yes! I'm actually working on a new release very soon!!
Oh, cool! Let’s make those reverbs even more usable!!
To my ear the secret sauce seems to have a faster trigger on the beginning of your note.
Yeah, I noticed some subtle differences as well...but I think it's just because I couldn't dial it in exactly. This video is much more scientific: ua-cam.com/video/6uZpaP-taYw/v-deo.html
There are no mistakes, only learnings (or something like that)
Yes! PTL!!
Your original sounds better actually they don’t sound the same the 2nd one has the elements the tIming of how the reverb affects the signal seems to be more immediate in your secret sauce preset so I’m copying that idea. GREAT JOB YOU FOUND SOMETHING VERY COOL BRO !
Yeah, I felt the same way...but I honestly think it's how hard I picked the string...did you watch Jason Sadites videos on this topic...very compelling
If you dont know who Jason Sadites is, you arent a TRUE Helix fanboy :) and BTW its pronounced "SAY-DYTES" (2 syllables). and you definitely need to watch ALL his videos as he has some amazing info on how to get the best sounds out of your Helix/Line 6 product and has given away so so many free killer presets on Custom Tone as well as many paid ones too. He is a true guitar icon who has played with some legendary players over the years.
Yes! Definitely have caught up since this video
But can new firmware update let you use multiple delays and reverbs and fill all the 8 blocks without running out of DSP ?
You have to be crafty. Haha
i have a roland jc 22, it got fx loops and can work in parallel. my goal is to get two signals at the same time, one with compressor, distortions, etc (everything before the fx loops block in my hx) and my delays and modulations i want them clean, 100% wet... but when i set them 100% wet no matter what i do the delay is repeating with distortion... in parallel without using distortion before the fx loop, the sound is perfect, i want the clean delay parallel mixed with the distorted guitar. any clues on what i'm missing here? i mean it has to be possible to do what i intend or is it really necessary to use two amps to get this 100% wet + 100% dry setup that i'm trying to get?
Can you send me a screen shot of your signal path so I can see exactly what you got going on? Email to jimmy@heywprshipleader.com
Is it possible on the HX stomp to create a fx loop if your amp doesn’t have one so that way the reverb and delay don’t mix with the distortion ? If the HX stomp is running front of the amp?
Yes, that's possible as long as you keep your amp clean and use the HX or other pedals for the distortion.
i have to know, how accurate are the HD600 (or whichever) headphones are to your stage sound. I have a very tough time with the major differences between home and stage regardless of my monitor of choice. however, my studio monitor (entry level JBL) are closest, but not always practical to use. or is it just the name of the game and you have a sunday tone and a home tone?
They work really well for me. I never need to make adjustments...although I play the same location every weekend. The only change I'll make from time to time is how thick a reverb to use. But the tone is always spot on
I think if you do some research and find the flattest frequency response studio reference type headphones you can it’ll help
Amp and IR works this method?
You need to run amp and IR on the same path