The TRUTH about Depression & Hip Hop: David Banner & Yung Joc on breaking the silence & the cycle

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
  • In this candid conversation, David Banner and Yung Joc open up about navigating mental health and depression in Hip Hop. In this episode of “Listen To Black Men” we explore the hidden struggles, and cultural suppression, that Black men face in this day and age as well as the importance of vulnerability in healing. From the illusion of wealth to the transformative power of combining faith and therapy, this conversation is not just for anyone seeking to understand the mental health complexities Black men navigate and the power of support and openness.
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    Chapters
    1:19 - Why David Banner Had To Speak Up
    3:47 - The Pressure and Comfort of Staying Silent
    6:05 - "Acceptable" Outlets To Hide Unacceptable Feelings
    6:48 - When Depression Is The Hardest To Hide Or Deny
    8:11 - The Guilt Of Making It Out
    9:50 - Faith And Therapy
    11:18 - The Role Of People In Your Environment
    11:50 - Why HipHop Is Not Always in The Conversation
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 112

  • @PoBallinTV
    @PoBallinTV Місяць тому +90

    6:31 He's right. I told my wife that her family has unresolved issues, because they drink and smoke too much. Most of them are educated and doing well, so she doesn't see anything wrong with it. But something's wrong when people constantly need or even want to be under the influence of something.

    • @Landscapinggang
      @Landscapinggang Місяць тому +3

      Big facts my homie drinks everyday and I think it’s a hidden problem

    • @chumps7974
      @chumps7974 Місяць тому +2

      Yeah. It's definitely something there

  • @thami.rubushe
    @thami.rubushe Місяць тому +23

    Black men are tired of being silent.
    I'm raising awareness about Men's Mental Health too. This is inspiration for me.
    From Johannesburg with love. ❤

    • @jsanders2004
      @jsanders2004 3 дні тому

      I used to stay in Orlando Soweto

  • @user-tl2cu9yy9g
    @user-tl2cu9yy9g Місяць тому +40

    And that sign behind Joc, for me, was a message from the Most High. "If you can read this, you're in range". THANK YOU LADY & MEN FOR THIS CONVERSATION ❤❤❤

  • @jackier7835
    @jackier7835 22 дні тому +5

    This was great. I just told a group of people that so many of our men in their 60’s are not mentally well due to unresolved childhood trauma 😢God just confirm it with this conversation.

  • @tommies3772
    @tommies3772 Місяць тому +17

    When I was 16 and I told my mother I was depressed and not to tell anyone. She told my brother who then cursed my out for being depressed. I nevet trust anyone with my feelings or true thoughts again. I'm 61 and still keep it inside. Our community needs these conversations but, its hard to trust.

    • @St3phenking13
      @St3phenking13 Місяць тому +1

      It starts within you Mr. Tommies. I'm 46 and started my current Spiritual and Mental Health Healing process two short years ago. Inner healing, acceptance, Forgiveness, and a Positive self image is a daily ritual.

    • @tommies3772
      @tommies3772 Місяць тому

      Thank you for your kind words. Bess to you and the Fam.​@@St3phenking13

  • @bighead_77
    @bighead_77 Місяць тому +14

    If you learn to take life 1 day at a time. You will learn how it’s much easier for you. That’s what I’m working towards right now. Stay strong my People

  • @user-ke8qz3jz2v
    @user-ke8qz3jz2v Місяць тому +24

    Neely fuller jr has great advice for that, “unless it’s constructive then we need to stay away from each other because we’re still have trauma and anger we try to take out on each other”

    • @chumps7974
      @chumps7974 Місяць тому +1

      I heard that too. A very good observation

    • @user-ke8qz3jz2v
      @user-ke8qz3jz2v Місяць тому

      @@chumps7974 it’s so dead on point right. We can’t even show up on time for each other lol

  • @lugosi7308
    @lugosi7308 Місяць тому +16

    "Depression is a luxury" hits different when I was deep in my depression, unemployable, damn near selectively mute, suicidal every moment of every day, in and out of the psych ward, self harming... but yeah I guess I should have sold drugs or something. Wait, tried that too and it wasn’t as lucrative for me as 50 cent. I think I did it wrong. I'm sorry, I'm still working through a lot of trauma and felt a little triggered

    • @thefreequency
      @thefreequency Місяць тому +9

      Thank you for sharing. That's real.
      One thing I've learned is that healing is a journey not a destination. Be kind to yourself. Positive self talk reprograms poor narratives of self.
      Sending you so much healing energy brother 🖤

  • @Nubian_Traveller
    @Nubian_Traveller Місяць тому +12

    Sadness might not be a choice but suffering is.

  • @steph5494
    @steph5494 20 днів тому +2

    I love this panel and the healing that's taken place here. Everyone listened without waiting to respond. More please!! Yung Joc's speaking voice needs to be heard more. He should do voice-over work. ❤

  • @blinkandstitchetc
    @blinkandstitchetc Місяць тому +62

    I met David when he was homeless and again when he was rich! He is humble!!!!

  • @Mush2389
    @Mush2389 Місяць тому +12

    Finally a podcast I watched and felt proud of with my people elevating the conversations. I enjoyed this. Thank you.🙏🏾

  • @NobodyImportant-ef3de
    @NobodyImportant-ef3de Місяць тому +15

    money fixes money issues only and usually depression is from other things like trauma, family, death, etc
    So getting more money wont resolve that

  • @marquisjohnson9256
    @marquisjohnson9256 Місяць тому +7

    Very good information 💯
    Black people please learn
    Mental health is everything
    Pain is real
    Pain is not normal
    It’s not ok
    There is a better way
    Seeking health doesn’t mean your weak
    You fix your car or house
    Fix your mind, body & spirit
    Keep God in your life
    But let science & medicine help you
    There’s always a better way 💯

  • @thefreequency
    @thefreequency Місяць тому +5

    Love to see the collective come into the understanding of healing, especially men who people tend to look at as leaders. These conversations hold a lot of power. This was just the surface but a great start

  • @yoscott7321
    @yoscott7321 29 днів тому +2

    I like what Joc said about us being taught to suppress are feeling. We know wolves prey on the weak and vulnerable. You don't want show weaknesses as a survival mechanism.

  • @AurielArizola
    @AurielArizola Місяць тому +5

    What David Banner said is deep! When we handshaking our peeps, we represent what they could have been (and vice versa).
    I think Pity is the soul divider. And when we get caught up the war begins between the spirit and the flesh.
    Giving in to our temptations, we dive into the unconscious and IT is there when IT comes to life, and IT wants all it can get and more, and if we don't obey, IT will clap back by shrinking our self esteem more thus opening the floodgates of depressive emotions and more. That IT must be treated with respect and that IT also represents our Desired potential.
    The unconscious alone is an example that what we know is limited compared to what we don't know.

  • @Christopher-gs6rs
    @Christopher-gs6rs Місяць тому +5

    He said god blessed him with a bullies body to protect the weak AMEN 🙏🙏🙏 WELL said

  • @RJ_OrderOfMelchizedek
    @RJ_OrderOfMelchizedek Місяць тому +5

    David, I appreciate you speaking up and projecting a more vulnerable you. Whereas you use your anger to cover your vulnerability. I covered mine with sex, lies, and gang activities.
    I do have to say your opinion of God is NOT the MOST HIGH GOD of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. This need to be said because the BIBLE is the context of that portion and I ain’t letting lies or confusion populate the airwaves.

  • @Cloudss9
    @Cloudss9 Місяць тому +4

    So glad there is conversation, vulnerability, and Healing taking place. God bless you all. Continue to express and live authentically. You are healing community when you live fully expressed.

  • @therapybykamerie
    @therapybykamerie Місяць тому +32

    Ain’t no one a psychologist or psychiatrist in here. Ehh okay, listen lightly but remember the human mind is one of the most complex mysteries of the earth. No one has the answers all in one and you’re not lazy or self loathing bc you’re depressed. It is during those times that rebirths and awakenings are formed. Life is cyclical. There will be highs and there will be lows

  • @kieshame888
    @kieshame888 Місяць тому +3

    This was a dope and very powerful conversation. More guys of their caliber really need to share bc our young men need this, real bad!🙏🏾👑

  • @user-tl2cu9yy9g
    @user-tl2cu9yy9g Місяць тому +37

    When he said "I don't have the luxury of being depressed"... he was saying that people who are depressed are choosing to sit in self pity and darkness, which looks like..not wanting to "get up and go", and wanting to "fight back" not wanting to be a conqueror, and not "facing the world"

    • @supremevision631
      @supremevision631 Місяць тому +6

      It’s sad that you have to explain this

    • @a.m.edwards9674
      @a.m.edwards9674 Місяць тому +14

      There's something called 'high-functioning depression.'

    • @ohhweeeee
      @ohhweeeee Місяць тому +10

      THIS IS WHY PEOPLE NEED TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY DEPRESSION MANIFESTS.

    • @harlan5339
      @harlan5339 Місяць тому +2

      Sometimes if you fight back it gets worse. Im not depressed I just dont have the same interests i used to. I be focused On Jesus

    • @1272JfC
      @1272JfC Місяць тому

      @@a.m.edwards9674Can you explain it please

  • @InnerPower4me
    @InnerPower4me Місяць тому +3

    This is good, men need to come together and heal and process.

  • @Qu33Nsh3baBabee
    @Qu33Nsh3baBabee Місяць тому +13

    This is good! It’s a great discussion that’s so necessary.

  • @ms.peggmeetmilitarylove8263
    @ms.peggmeetmilitarylove8263 Місяць тому +2

    Agree ❤I too have depression and it’s more challenging since my son passed. Love and respect to you all ❤I’m 63 and taking one day at a time

  • @RiRilove62
    @RiRilove62 Місяць тому +4

    Necessary conversation. I appreciate ppl coming 2gether and be open and vulnerable on this Topic. Wish a professional in the psychological field was included to answer/add Insight on certain situations. Mental Health is very sensative to many and is about HEALING... how applying tools to handle things better.. hope it doesn't become a new fad for tv. Respect to David Banner.
    Blessings 🙌🏾

  • @taylorgordon4920
    @taylorgordon4920 Місяць тому +2

    More
    Conversations like this more podcasts like this period sick all this toxic bs this is good energy but watch this don’t get as much coverage because it’s not toxic we gonna keep this alive this
    For us to release world wide eny Brooklyn supporting this all
    The way

  • @ajeedapoetreincarnatedquee1431
    @ajeedapoetreincarnatedquee1431 Місяць тому +4

    This was absolutely phenomenal!

  • @doc396
    @doc396 28 днів тому +1

    Joc and Banner are two of the realest and smartest men in hip hop!

  • @monicasmith7050
    @monicasmith7050 Місяць тому +5

    We allow our lazy friends & family to guilt trip us into supporting them, instead of them getting an education or a high paying trade/skills e.g., Electrician, Cyber Security, HVAC, AI, Database, etc…

  • @akashastar9908
    @akashastar9908 11 днів тому

    The answer to ur problems are within! U must go within to understand y u still have problems, y ur still depressed/anxious, y u dealing with trauma etc…. The answer lies within….

  • @Openbookest82
    @Openbookest82 Місяць тому +1

    Love this conversation

  • @ceejaii5318
    @ceejaii5318 Місяць тому +3

    Empowering dialogue. ✊🏾

  • @KingRousey
    @KingRousey Місяць тому +4

    Only 3 mins into this, and it's helpful

  • @benjaminbleacheriii1724
    @benjaminbleacheriii1724 Місяць тому +1

    Brilliant #thankyouall #enjoythejourney #teamworkmakesthedreamwork #weloveyouall 💯💯💯♥️

  • @MichaelLewis-mg4go
    @MichaelLewis-mg4go Місяць тому +5

    This podcast is a different kind of dope the intro fire

  • @donald7723
    @donald7723 Місяць тому +4

    The guy with the braids kept interrupting the guy with hat..
    Its each one, teach one.

  • @babiii3m
    @babiii3m Місяць тому +1

    He said thatbecause he is literally a leader. And there there is actual people and families that he is responsible for . If at any time he takes the time to be depressed, someone will lose.

  • @oillizm
    @oillizm 28 днів тому +1

    I had a conversation with someone and told them they don't have the right to anxiety. That's a yt people issue. When you get pulled over, you CANNOT be anxious. You CANNOT hesitate, freeze up or any of the manifestations anxiety brings about.

  • @shaundaross123
    @shaundaross123 9 днів тому

    Love this. ❤🙏🏽 thank you for sharing this.

  • @robertson-winningallthetim7241
    @robertson-winningallthetim7241 Місяць тому +2

    Wow. So this what it sounds like.

  • @Basedbeauty3
    @Basedbeauty3 Місяць тому +8

    The Gospel that saves: Whoever believes that Jesus Christ who is the Son of God has died on the cross to wipe away ALL your sins, who was buried, & rose from the dead on the 3rd day is saved Forever.
    Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

  • @carlosbaker6267
    @carlosbaker6267 Місяць тому +10

    The truth is Jesus is always talking but we refuse to listen or believe.

  • @blakwater777
    @blakwater777 12 днів тому +1

    Amen.❤❤

  • @1272JfC
    @1272JfC Місяць тому

    I deal with my depression by overworking myself and just focusing on doing things that I love to do

  • @aleechaadams2691
    @aleechaadams2691 Місяць тому +1

    It's NOT THE MONEY you can feel and be safe without THE MONEY ❤

  • @spanklocpimpn7517
    @spanklocpimpn7517 Місяць тому +2

    Great conversation 💯

  • @skylandshanks5057
    @skylandshanks5057 13 днів тому

    Great conversation

  • @pokerfacetv4644
    @pokerfacetv4644 Місяць тому

    This is deep.

  • @Joshdifferent
    @Joshdifferent Місяць тому +1

    So real

  • @WillCole-kr1cl
    @WillCole-kr1cl Місяць тому +2

    David Banner

  • @spokenwordsbyKeke
    @spokenwordsbyKeke Місяць тому

    Love it ❤

  • @rawbeadlab810
    @rawbeadlab810 Місяць тому

    There’s power in are words there’s life an death blessing and curses with our tongue that’s why the living word tells us to watch what we say

  • @mdove3727
    @mdove3727 9 днів тому

    David well said 6:00

  • @user-js6hb6id2d
    @user-js6hb6id2d Місяць тому

    Powerful!!💪🏿💪🏿

  • @carlosbaker6267
    @carlosbaker6267 Місяць тому +3

    And the conversation was always been had, it took your Maturity to Hear not Listen.

  • @jetlife2thenextlife371
    @jetlife2thenextlife371 Місяць тому

    Looking at Miles’ jeans makes me salty I got rid of all my Levi 501s like 10 years ago lol 👌🏿

  • @KayFlowidity
    @KayFlowidity Місяць тому +1

    7:00 Facts 😂💯

  • @hasadiahjones620
    @hasadiahjones620 Місяць тому

    I got all the answers because I have had and have many problems.

  • @illone10
    @illone10 Місяць тому

    I'm glad young Joc said I can express myself. You were out of your freaking mind wearing a dress, and now I feel cleansed.

  • @Scaimusic
    @Scaimusic Місяць тому +2

    I would like to ask this room what are the works of God? (The works which build faith in God). Does this room know? If not, it's why these people are troubled and seeking therapy from their woes.
    Yes, I am a Hebrew Israelite. A melanated man who follows God's Commandments.

  • @robertparks167
    @robertparks167 Місяць тому

    dope vid

  • @soulheaven9243
    @soulheaven9243 Місяць тому +1

    dude said :God dont cost nothin!".....true, but attending modern Church costs a WHOLE LOT

  • @variesteashanti
    @variesteashanti Місяць тому

  • @reneerussell8902
    @reneerussell8902 Місяць тому

    ❤❤

  • @mochap19
    @mochap19 Місяць тому

    Is there a full length interview?

  • @rb1891
    @rb1891 Місяць тому

    Young Joc was Diddys bop

  • @InnerPower4me
    @InnerPower4me Місяць тому

    I don't see why Jessie was there. It should've just the men healing together.

  • @ZinaraAustin-dc5pr
    @ZinaraAustin-dc5pr Місяць тому

    *👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @Demarri21
    @Demarri21 Місяць тому

    And I’m SUBSCRIBED 🤯🫡🤫

  • @B-ham
    @B-ham Місяць тому

    That host must never went to grade school because we learned how to spell Mississippi with a song

  • @WhoisGr8ful
    @WhoisGr8ful 6 днів тому

    I’m sure a lot of people don’t wanna hear this and I say this at the risk of being dragged but at the end of the day is clear to see there is a disconnect between their relationship with Jesus Christ. And no, I’m not talking about that long haired blue eyed white guy. I’m talking about the real Yahushua HaMashiach!

  • @kristianwilson3708
    @kristianwilson3708 Місяць тому

    You spelled Joc wrong lol

  • @buckpreacher2283
    @buckpreacher2283 Місяць тому

    Listen b yaw been listening to the other folks to much we don’t need to sit in a circle as men and talk about depression mental health etc it’s like yaw don’t understand that’s for females do we know it’s exist of course but as men we are not suppose to want the world to see certain sides period but when you fall for anything you become anything

  • @gardenoflaina
    @gardenoflaina 5 днів тому

    I love Jessie Woo but idk why she be the only female in some of these male dominated spaces/podcasts? 🤔

  • @mimibynature
    @mimibynature Місяць тому

    That man completely misunderstood what young joc was saying. YJ was right being able to speak your mind is a luxury. Not all things luxurious come from machismo. As a matter of fact the luxurious life or the soft life is a feminine concept. Can’t get less masculine than talking about your feelings. Dude actually displayed the machismo by interrupting and incorrectly assessing the conversation. He’s got a BIG EGO.

  • @GeminiDZignz
    @GeminiDZignz Місяць тому

    Depression is on the Bible

  • @citronialandmark476
    @citronialandmark476 Місяць тому

    where yours lol....

  • @4everyoung869
    @4everyoung869 Місяць тому

    This show sound like women talking bout they feelings.

  • @shaneebrown4215
    @shaneebrown4215 Місяць тому

    PROJECT 2025 😭😭😭READ IT LORD HELP PROTECT AMERICANS FROM MAGA BIGOTRY IN OUR FACE