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The greatest snare drum tuning trick EVER!

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  • Опубліковано 13 сер 2015
  • Get the full video including other cool drum tuning tutorials here:
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    This snare drum tuning trick will definitely improve your snare sound and will push your career as a drummer or sound engineer. The Masshoff Tuning Methode was developed by Udo Masshoff and is a very effective and easy to learn method to tune drums within minutes.
    The full video (115 minutes) contains also a great bass drum tuning lesson and how to tune toms. You will gain full control of all aspects of your drumsound!
    This snare drum tuning trick is an extract of my video "The Ultimate Drumtuning Revolution"
    You can download the full video here: on my website www.drumsounds...
    This video is a little extract of my Drumtuning DVD. On the DVD you will find many other drumtuning tips and tricks. For example my Masshoff Tuning Method, which allows you to tune every drum perfectly in less than 2 minutes.
    Interested in MORE DRUMTUNING LESSONS? Check out the whole Drumtuning DVD on www.drumsounds...
    You will love it!

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  • @DirectCurrent4u
    @DirectCurrent4u 5 років тому +87

    I have been using this method for the past 3+ years playing different Gigs every night and I really Love it. Its a very easy way to Quick change the tune of your Drum in a drop of a Stick... Thanks for sharing and God Bless...

    • @vincedelapena
      @vincedelapena 5 років тому +1

      DirectCurrent Have you experienced any warping in the hoops or shells? Have you tried this method with standard triple flange, die cast or plywood hoops?

    • @DirectCurrent4u
      @DirectCurrent4u 5 років тому +6

      @@vincedelapena I have never had any problem with my hoops or shells warping using this method.It works really well for me. I have never used plywood hoops. I don't think it would work well with plywood hoops. I am sure it can very from kit to kit. I am playing a 1976 Rogers eight piece kit with two snare drums. I hope this helps...

    • @vincedelapena
      @vincedelapena 5 років тому

      Thanks.

    • @tbonziron
      @tbonziron 4 роки тому

      do you use this on a Dynasonic snare drum (if you have one?)

    • @DirectCurrent4u
      @DirectCurrent4u 4 роки тому +1

      tbonziron Yes! I am using a Rogers Dynasonic snare drum. And it works great!!!

  • @chinor3999
    @chinor3999 2 роки тому +31

    Thanks Serj Tankian

  • @shookstylez
    @shookstylez 9 років тому +136

    dude, this is the greatest snare drum trick I have ever heard. and I am a freakin keyboard player!

    • @ChelouWolf
      @ChelouWolf 9 років тому +84

      +Marcusmiller you're not a bass player ? ^^

    • @jacobmatteson9166
      @jacobmatteson9166 9 років тому +2

      +ChelouWolf Dude Marcus Miller! Sweet Bass lines man..

    • @metalphobos3632
      @metalphobos3632 7 років тому +5

      Marcusmiller And thats why youre a keyboard player.

  • @4HNetworkNews
    @4HNetworkNews 6 років тому +18

    My husband, Howie Gilbert, has been playing professionally for 70 years! Jazz, Opera, Ballet, Symphony, Greek Weddings, Country Western, German Bands, Recordings, the works. I showed him your video about tuning the snare drum and he loved it! Your method is great for creating different types of sounds on the snare for different gigs. The methodical approach you developed gives the drummer quick control over the snare drum sound and allows you to manipulate that sound with intention. Nice work!

  • @JakeNolen
    @JakeNolen 3 роки тому +11

    God bless this beautiful Serj Tankian Borat drummer 🙌

  • @apinakapinastorba
    @apinakapinastorba 9 років тому +42

    This completely goes against what I have been told previously. And it works. Nice trick :)

    • @wado1942
      @wado1942 9 років тому +2

      +apinakapinastorba I believe Simon Phillips habitually cranked up the top two lugs starting in the early 80s.

  • @naiphodeo
    @naiphodeo 5 років тому +5

    Been using this method on my TAMA StarClassic 14x6.5 with REMO Ambassador X & Emperor X in recording session & LIVE shows almost 2years now... It really works.
    Try understand the method & mixed it with your needs (Head/Snare), DON'T OVER DO IT.
    Million thanks man..

  • @INTOTHEFOLD
    @INTOTHEFOLD 5 років тому +3

    I watched this video awhile ago and tried your method at a gig. It worked GREAT. I've watched many videos on tuning a snare but none of them were useful in helping me realize how to do it. This method is easy and actually helped me conceptualize this problem better. I've been tuning my snare since I was a kid, many hours of frustration spent in my room. Thank you! I had to come back to tell you that this really is the best way to tune a snare.

  • @kylewagoner
    @kylewagoner 9 років тому +60

    Gettin' a little too fancy for AC/DC there.

    • @kylewagoner
      @kylewagoner 7 років тому +5

      LOL came back a year later and had the same thought this time. Had to like my own comment.

    • @jesuslover9199
      @jesuslover9199 7 років тому

      xD Awesome

  • @securi-t
    @securi-t 9 років тому +163

    This is nuts! Love it....

    • @MasshoffDrums
      @MasshoffDrums  9 років тому +5

      +Tony Tuite I´m glad you like it! I have a new drumtuning DVD with all my revolutionary tuning systems out now.This trick is only a little extract of it! If you like to learn more check it out: www.masshoffdrums.com/shop

    • @RobinLabadie
      @RobinLabadie 9 років тому +7

      +Masshoff Drums Hope you thinked about selling a digital (online) version, because DVDs mate... We're in 2015.

    • @jawoody9745
      @jawoody9745 9 років тому

      +Robin Labadie I still refer to my DVDs. Hell, if its full of good information, I don't mind popping it into my DVD drive at all......

    • @RobinLabadie
      @RobinLabadie 8 років тому +2

      james woody I don't have an optical drive onto my computer, and i hate using them even on my TV :)

    • @Omgitszackk
      @Omgitszackk 8 років тому +3

      Haha I get it

  • @edreisner9323
    @edreisner9323 2 роки тому +2

    I sincerely want to extend my deepest and most sincere gratitude to you for this. This has literally solved hours upon hours of frustration from my snare. It recently got so bad that I had to step away from the drums entirely, simply because I couldn't get any sort of decent snare sound/tone. You have brought new life into drumming through me. Again, thank you so incredibly much!

  • @peterhorvath9662
    @peterhorvath9662 6 років тому

    That's a great little trick. I have been studio engineer for 20 yrs and used similar trick where after "tuning" the snare I would loosen 1 lug completely to eliminate overtones and deaden snare....thank you Mr. Funk drummer. Your trick is quicker and does what you say. I will change my method to yours, I like what I hear on my snare drum here. Thank you!

  • @Doubledare1andahalf
    @Doubledare1andahalf 8 років тому +25

    The part when he says "Einstineish" is still hands down the best part of this video.

  • @dheemajumder3633
    @dheemajumder3633 8 років тому +82

    Thank you Serj Tankian for that weird Technique. Works tho.

    • @zamek4744
      @zamek4744 7 років тому +1

      Dhee Majumder So true 😂

    • @lizzahk
      @lizzahk 6 років тому

      Soad reference. Good comment.

    • @jeiigomez492
      @jeiigomez492 6 років тому

      my god. hahhaha

    • @nicholascowan1731
      @nicholascowan1731 6 років тому

      Dhee Majumder i don't get the joke

  • @OfficalYFG
    @OfficalYFG 8 місяців тому +1

    I've watched all sorts of tuning videos... reso tuned higher v lower, raw sound v mic'd, tape/gel v no tuning assist. THIS is the method I have stuck with since discovering it 8 years ago. Especially recently when changing the heads on my gigging kit. It's quick, easy, versatile and always sounds great.

  • @andthereIwas
    @andthereIwas 7 років тому

    You are a drum wizard! I have been trying to get this snare to stop ringing/singing for a long time and that muffled it better than ANY product I have ever put on a head. Thank you!!!

  • @partykrew666
    @partykrew666 9 років тому +170

    This is the greatest snare drum trick ever, and I'm a culinary student!

    • @jacobmatteson9166
      @jacobmatteson9166 9 років тому +10

      +partykrew666....and you should totally look into tuning your drums in a healthier way.

    • @partykrew666
      @partykrew666 9 років тому +3

      Jacob Matteson i was making a joke about the guitarists who are all saying the same thing..... -_-

    • @jacobmatteson9166
      @jacobmatteson9166 8 років тому

      Oh! Get those men some ice then!

    • @theevildrummingsithlord1492
      @theevildrummingsithlord1492 6 років тому

      Ba dum crash

    • @Retroscoop
      @Retroscoop 6 років тому

      Well, it doesn't work with cooking pots unfortunately. You'll have to use 12 sets of sticks or forks in stead.

  • @sksk6265
    @sksk6265 8 років тому +524

    since when does serj from SOAD make drum lesson video's???

    • @BN-xj8wr
      @BN-xj8wr 8 років тому +5

      LOL TRUEEE

    • @basilschreyer8807
      @basilschreyer8807 7 років тому +16

      its exactly what i tought^^

    • @MeowCatProductions1
      @MeowCatProductions1 6 років тому +1

      Exactly what I was thinking lol

    • @805BLAZING
      @805BLAZING 6 років тому

      Exactly what i asked myself..great minds think alike

    • @hugoxu3
      @hugoxu3 6 років тому

      +Water Boy that sounds like soad xD

  • @SecretTreeFortMusic
    @SecretTreeFortMusic 2 роки тому +4

    This guy has saved me in many many situations. This is hands down the easiest method or live performance drumming.

  • @mrski4945
    @mrski4945 7 років тому

    WOW! I tried this on the snare I play at Church. Made it sound so good, that now I tune this way on my own 2 snares.
    Thank you for this tip, I love it!

  • @MrLeeziebee
    @MrLeeziebee 8 років тому +52

    It is a useful trick & i would have loved to know it 25 years & 5 snare drums ago.

    • @MasshoffDrums
      @MasshoffDrums  8 років тому +1

      If you like to learn more about drumtuning check out my whole drumtuning DVD. The snare trick is only a little extract of it. On the DVD are many more lessons. For example my Masshoff Tuning Method, which allows you to tune every drum perfectly in less than 2 minutes. You will find more information about it on my website: www.masshoffdrums.com

    • @jacksonshelburne2747
      @jacksonshelburne2747 7 років тому

      This has helped me learn to tune my drum finally

    • @carolynmichaels8676
      @carolynmichaels8676 7 років тому

      How did you live without it??

  • @RAAZR-
    @RAAZR- 8 років тому +280

    I don't even own a kit and still watched this video

  • @aronfisher5926
    @aronfisher5926 6 років тому +1

    I was very skeptical at first but staying patient and watching the whole thing proved to be worth it. Thank you!

  • @jimpennington3824
    @jimpennington3824 7 років тому +1

    I was a professional drummer for over 35 years. Why have I never seen this before? BRILLIANT! Mind officially blown.

  • @maurizioincurvati
    @maurizioincurvati 5 років тому +4

    That is fantastic! I just tuned my snare and playing hell’s bells. Sounds great. Thanks

  • @SpectreSoundStudios
    @SpectreSoundStudios 9 років тому +697

    Nicely done! Bravo, sir!

    • @JpOctavarium
      @JpOctavarium 9 років тому +20

      +SpectreSoundStudios Hey hey look who it is! :P

    • @peterpetrov7073
      @peterpetrov7073 9 років тому +43

      Hey man, maybe he should show us how to tune a bassist too right?

    • @malthuswasright
      @malthuswasright 9 років тому +2

      +Peter Petrov No-one can do THAT...

    • @JpOctavarium
      @JpOctavarium 9 років тому +37

      Ed Gein
      99,9% of pop music proves you wrong.

    • @rhys7816
      @rhys7816 9 років тому +11

      +Ed Gein obviously went over your head mate he was talking about auto tune ;)

  • @henrymoss5272
    @henrymoss5272 6 років тому

    Congrats Udo on having the only 'snare drum tuning method' video on UA-cam that is a precise repeatable sequence of tuning moves, a.k.a. an actual METHOD, and not some vague 'tune it til it feels good' bullshit that isn't repeatable/scientific in any way like all the other tuning 'methods' which I have seen on UA-cam.
    Also, your tuning here that eliminates the ringing and overtone from the snare completely is absolutely mind-blowing. That is the holy grail sound for studio recording: a nice dry snare with a fast decay and no unnecessary bullshit ring or overtone that you have to fight to get rid of in the mix.
    Your method also eliminates the need for the embarrassing amateurism that is putting a wallet or duct tape on the snare drum head to get a usable sound.. I don't know how so many drummers are willing to put up with this, but I used to have to resort to this 'solution' myself back in the day because I knew nothing else I could do about it, and I am so glad to see that someone realized this was intolerable and came up with an actual methodical tuning fix for it. Buying an amazing snare drum that costs over a thousand dollars and then having to put pieces of gaffer tape on it to make it not sound like a horrible ringing piece of shit! How embarrassing.
    You sir are a genius!

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 6 років тому +1

    I understood the following:
    1st turn snare upside down, put stick under snare strings, screw it tight in steps of 4 turns, always switch screws to opposite side
    2nd turn back in normal position, loosen all screws, same procedure, but turn it back, till it grabs, then 1 turn only.
    3rd 12 o clock screw 1 more turn, 1 and 11 o clock half a turn
    4th 5 an 7 o clock screw 1.5 turns back, 6 o clock loose
    5th with 3 and 9 o clock tune the sound as you want
    By loosing 5, 6 and 7 o clock, you can edit the sound from damped to Funk.
    Right?

  • @GiulianoLaurenza
    @GiulianoLaurenza 6 років тому +3

    IT WORKED AMAZINGLY! Billie Jean's snare revealed!!!

  • @RustyKnorr
    @RustyKnorr 6 років тому +4

    For all you geniuses who know more than anyone else, (while sitting on your couch not actually doing anything,) this is essentially Benny Greb’s technique as well. Try and tell HIM he doesn’t know how to tune his drums! Drummers have been detuning one or two lugs for decades to change the snare sound, no damage or issues of any kind. This works awesome. If you don’t like it...well, no one asked you.

    • @williamfox1394
      @williamfox1394 6 років тому +1

      The thing is, literally all the lugs on this drum are different tensions. I personally love this sound, but I'm not willing to break my snare in order to get it.

    • @RustyKnorr
      @RustyKnorr 6 років тому +3

      William Fox Break your drum? What kind of crappy drums are you playing?! Geezus, if your snare is that fragile, throw it away and buy a real drum. Quality drums are not affected by detuning.

    • @williamfox1394
      @williamfox1394 6 років тому +1

      I'm referring to warping the rims, damaging the head, breaking the tension rods, etc.

    • @RustyKnorr
      @RustyKnorr 6 років тому +2

      William Fox Like I said, buy quality drums and you don’t have to worry about that. Have you ever even seen a tension rod break? 🙄

  • @stuneedel
    @stuneedel 6 років тому +1

    OK, have to admit I'm amazed. I'm a Libra and am OBSESSED with balance, including equal tension on lugs, BUT I witnessed with my own eyes and definitely EARS how powerful and sonicallly beautiful this technique really is. Yes, the effects SEEMS to go from a muffled to an almost empty drum (i.e. no hardware, pads, etc.) with a couple of strategic turns of lugs. WOW. I'm so impressed and can't wait to play with this method. Thanks for trusting your "Einsteinness". :)

  • @IamKashiIto
    @IamKashiIto 7 років тому +1

    Danke Udo Masshoff!
    Zum ersten Mal habe ich genau den Snaresound, den ich will!

  • @Strepite
    @Strepite 4 роки тому +5

    Well my snare is still ringing like hell, need to use dampers but still using this technique it's very easy to quickly get various tones... Nice one!

    • @Strepite
      @Strepite 3 роки тому

      update, when I replaced the heads on the same snare, the technique works like a charm...

  • @groovydjs
    @groovydjs 5 років тому +7

    Works perfectly. Grab a spare snare to have set up this way. Who wouldn't want VERY DIFFERENT snare sounds from song to song? No overtones for the sound man to have to gate and compress the hell out of. Everybody of any worth carries 2 snares to the gig.....why not take one that is proven to work for MANY PEOPLE over many years without warpage of the hoops nor the shell? Most drummers that insist on live and open drums end up with your kit simply being triggered out front to get great sounds in 2 seconds. SOMEONE has to do it.

  • @joytiston9769
    @joytiston9769 6 років тому

    The tricks indeed can help a lot. For almost 5 months, I have been waiting for this kind of hooking sound in a drum set especially on a snare because I know that playing drums is not just banging every cymbals or popping every snares or tom-toms but to play it with conviction and with enjoyment.

  • @JEdwardsbret
    @JEdwardsbret 7 років тому

    mind.blown. I've been tuning/thinking about snare tuning all wrong for YEARS...such a good method.

  • @stephendrummer1
    @stephendrummer1 7 років тому +6

    I just wanted to thank you for putting this video on...Genius idea....I just tuned my snare according to the video and it sounds FANTASTIC...This saved me so much time, now going to a new venue, my time in tuning my snare is nill....Thanks again, Stephen I've been playing over forty years, with this tuning method I could have saved myself so much time and frustration....WOW.

  • @bryanortega6390
    @bryanortega6390 4 роки тому +16

    From your thumbnail, I thought you were Serj Tankian for a sec 😜

  • @webgomer
    @webgomer 7 років тому

    Everything I have learned about tuning a snare just went out the window with this video! Nicely done. It just goes to show that you don't have to conform to the norm!

  • @mikemorrison4860
    @mikemorrison4860 6 років тому

    Genius. I meticulously maintained a drum set in my home studio for several years - ready to play at any moment. I wish I would have known this system back then.

  • @bryanfontez
    @bryanfontez 8 років тому +5

    I tried this twice and kept it setup this way for a few gigs and one recording session. Verdict? It's a very creative and cool way to control the tone and pitch of your snare drum very quick and easily.
    HOWEVER... If you play hard rock music and you severely abuse your snare with power like I do "a la Dave Grohl", then this setup is not for you. That bottom lug is just going to keep loosening every time you hit your snare, which is already a problem I have with normal tuning, it just happens even more so and much faster using this method.
    I can imagine this tuning would work great for a softer player or a style of music, like jazz or funk, but for Rock I hate to say that this just doesn't last. Not unless you plan on having some sort of tuning lock/mechanism of some kind.
    Also... This "Tuning Trick" puts a lot of uneven and unnecessary stress on the head, warping it in different directions with drastically different tensions. Don't expect it to last very long if you do this to it. Want a dryer sound? Just buy the proper head for your style of play and genre of music. I love a dry/cracky Nirvana/STP type snare so I use an Evans Genera Dry with vents that kill overtones, and then I tighten it to shit everywhere and voila. The perfect snare sound.

  • @AdamHalvo
    @AdamHalvo 2 роки тому +4

    You look like if Serj Tankien played drums 😄 great job man. You made my snare sound so much better

  • @mrfgm
    @mrfgm 6 років тому

    I have never ever heard of this in all my years of playing. This is the coolest trick ever.!! Man...this is great!

  • @dlparis
    @dlparis 7 років тому

    I've seen a Lot of screwed up ways to tune a drum, but this one takes the cake. Take a little pride and caution tuning your drums. I actually had to watch the first of this video again to make sure he actually started out cranking the first tension rod 4-1/2 turns! Unbelievable

  • @JimDooley
    @JimDooley 9 років тому +42

    Wow, I thought you were crazy when you loosened those lugs, but it actually looks like it's a great idea. Thanks, I'm gonna give it a try.

    • @MasshoffDrums
      @MasshoffDrums  9 років тому

      +Jim Dooley try it, it`s great!

    • @JimDooley
      @JimDooley 9 років тому

      +Masshoff Drums I will.

    • @ZonderZout
      @ZonderZout 9 років тому

      +Jim Dooley Yeah, what he said! Gonna try this!

    • @whiketurner6249
      @whiketurner6249 9 років тому

      +Masshoff Drums Even if someone isn't switching tones much, it seems like a better method to kill undesired sounds and zone in on the aspects and tone one wants. Looks like complete control of the snare.

  • @gurnblanstein2191
    @gurnblanstein2191 8 років тому +4

    At first I was thinking yeah yeah right... and by the end of the video I was amazed at how well this works lol!

  • @jpizzleforizzle
    @jpizzleforizzle 6 років тому

    used this technique on a friend's snare a few weeks ago, was tuning his whole kit.
    it sounded fucking phenomenal!
    this is genius!

  • @SuperWhiteNinjas
    @SuperWhiteNinjas 6 років тому +1

    This is a good way to warp your drum. Even if you set all the lugs equally when you are not playing, over years it will most likely warp and ruin your drum. Great trick if you can buy a new drum every year or so. Great trick, but people should know that wrinkles on your head leads to warping.

  • @drumst1x
    @drumst1x 9 років тому +4

    Awesome video. I am always looking to improve my tuning abilities. A few questions.
    1) Will this tuning hold over an entire gig or session, or do you recommend going over the lugs between every song?
    2) I am also concerned about hoop or shell warping with this method. Is this save over the long term?
    3) You don't find a need to fine tune either the bottom or top? I noticed you did go around the bottom head once (and it sounded pretty damn even), but is there ever a time when you would modify them beyond all one (or two) turns past just gripping on the bottom?
    4) I would also love to see a video for how you tune a kick, rack, and floor toms.
    Thanks for posting this!!!

  • @kingtyson333
    @kingtyson333 8 років тому +4

    This is how I tuned my snare when I was 12 years old and still do it the same way now at 37

  • @nenissaK
    @nenissaK 7 років тому

    After bottom head +2,0 and tophead +1,0, top-most +1,0; top-side +0,5, and release of bottom 3 screws ("tunelugs", 4 of them in a 10-lug snare) sidelug screws+1,0; bottom 2 screws of the top head on either side of the bottom-most, overtune/dampening screw +1,0; dampening screw + 1,0 (which makes all 3 bottom screws +1,0 after loosening them up) -> you have the optimal rock/heavy metal/punchy snare that has great sounding rimshots because the low 3 screws are relatively tight. Also snares pretty loose, it sound Fabulous. This made my day.

  • @tatedelana7658
    @tatedelana7658 7 років тому

    Tried this my DW 8x14 steel snare drum, and yes, it worked. Thank you!

  • @JimBob_Joe77
    @JimBob_Joe77 8 років тому +68

    This method may work. But I can guarantee it is NOT good for your shell and hoops. You will twist your hoops and eventually warp your shell. Follow this guy at your own risk...

    • @llman03
      @llman03 7 років тому

      Matt N. lol!!

    • @Pie_Yow_Comme_Ca
      @Pie_Yow_Comme_Ca 6 років тому

      Tune the bottom three back up at the end of your show, practice, recording session, whatever. Probably won’t eliminate the possibility of warping anything, but you’ll probably still get years out of your drum as apposed to leaving it detuned at the bottom.

    • @airborneassasin
      @airborneassasin 6 років тому

      EXACTLY

    • @worldrallyblu
      @worldrallyblu 6 років тому

      Matt Nes'heim I mean my snare is all metal so it should be fine for me

    • @bigneutron5510
      @bigneutron5510 6 років тому

      Matt
      I agree totaly. I try it. It kills both heads. After 3 days your snare sound only one way: shitty

  • @yadavpariyar1680
    @yadavpariyar1680 3 роки тому +9

    Thank you Serj Tankian. I thought you were full time vocalist for System of a Down

  • @kenbisson5455
    @kenbisson5455 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for taking the time to share this technique. Snare drum tuning can be tough and really comes down to personal feel, sound and the gig you're on. I do wish, however that us drummers could support ideas instead of all the critical comments, which are not feed back nor helpful at all. Thanks Again.

  • @blujay2084
    @blujay2084 6 років тому

    Wow !! This works. Nice, fat sound. No muffling required. Seems to get a bit less snare buzz on tom tom hits too.
    Can more or less control the pitch on the fly with the 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock lugs. Sweet.
    I have a Drumdial and was using it while I made these adjustments. Here's the Drumdial before-and-after values in case anyone is interested. I have 2 snare drums.
    The first is a 90s vintage Pearl 6-1/2x14 with only 8 lugs. In the past, I've set the snare head to 81 and the batter to 89 .. Using Udo's video as a guide I cranked the snare head from 81 up to 83. On the batter head, I left the 2, 4, 8 and 10 o'clock (side) lugs at 89. I cranked the 11o'clock lug and 1o'clock lugs up to 93. Dropped the 5 and 7 o'clock lugs totally loose and adjusted up just enough to get rid of the the wrinkles which showed at 83 on the Drumdial.
    Also have a 70s vintage Ludwig Supraphonic 5x14, 10 lugs. Again, my usual Drumdial numbers are snare 81, batter 89.
    Kicked the snare head up from 81 to 84. I left the side lugs at 89, same as the Pearl. Cranked 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock to 92. Loosened 5 and 7 o'clock all the way loose then tightened up just enough to get rid of the wrinkles, Drumdial = 84

  • @heyholetsgo
    @heyholetsgo 8 років тому +23

    Oh man those hi-hats are massive.

  • @SJA962
    @SJA962 9 років тому +85

    "Let's do one turn"
    +Does 3, 4 or 5 turns randomly

    • @SlavSquatSenpai
      @SlavSquatSenpai 9 років тому +27

      +Sergio Jiménez 1 full turn equates to 360 degrees.
      If you can do a 360 degree turn in one shot, post vids pls

    • @michaeljames1296
      @michaeljames1296 9 років тому +4

      +Pat Orlowski i tihnk and i could be wrong so im not attacking, but i think he means when he said do for example 2 full turns (4 actual turns) sometimes you can clearly see him doing a turn or half turn or full turn before he counts

    • @SlavSquatSenpai
      @SlavSquatSenpai 9 років тому +7

      +Michael James But even with that, the guy in the vid explains that he does the extra turns to get the bolts to grip the rim first.

    • @bikerluke182
      @bikerluke182 9 років тому +27

      +Sergio Jiménez "ONCE IT STARTS TO GRIP...let's do one turn"

    • @sonumehara6847
      @sonumehara6847 8 років тому

      +Pat Orlowski South Bay
      Lightning the same

  • @stefanimurray8543
    @stefanimurray8543 6 років тому

    48 in 6 days. I am done with air drums. Going to get a snare today. First video I watched and I don’t know who this fine very interesting and intelligent man is, but I am very elated to get my snare. I hope he he is well in this world! Thank you kind man. 🧝🏼‍♀️✌🏼

  • @tjshine8022
    @tjshine8022 6 років тому

    This actually WORKED!!!! My snare was ringing like crazy and now it's PHAT!

  • @brad1674
    @brad1674 4 роки тому +10

    I'm actually so glad I watched the video before I ruined my snare drum and heads!

  • @LUckybones25
    @LUckybones25 9 років тому +5

    This is the greatest snare drum tuning trick, and I'm a guitar player!

    • @andezbox
      @andezbox 9 років тому +8

      +LUckybones25 no wonder !

  • @hunterofliars9600
    @hunterofliars9600 7 років тому

    I was very skeptical at first but amazed at the end. Great way to tune your snare !

  • @clementdelafontaine9145
    @clementdelafontaine9145 7 років тому

    Worked for me on a pearl export snare and coated drumhead. This tip is amazing! Will recommend! For snares with only 8 lugs, just use the two lateral ones for tone instead of the four he said.

  • @maxtotheham
    @maxtotheham 6 років тому +8

    I can't be the only one that doesn't think this sounds good. I've never heard a complaint about a equal tension tuning done right. Muffled drums can still have high end if you use the right kind and the right amount of it. This teaches people to try something that could warp their heads and unfortunately I know too many people that have done that.

    • @HR2635
      @HR2635 6 років тому +2

      could not agree more.. this is a stupid video that states things that are time-proven as wrong.. stupid.. muffling a drum is a tool.. not a problem.. and the sounds in this video .. well.. my snare drums sound better.. lets leave it at that.

    • @KarlstadDrums
      @KarlstadDrums 5 років тому +1

      Yeah, and the thing with drums nowadays is that good tuning is purely subjective(Except in some cases when the drum isn't tuned at all and objectively sound like shit)

  • @TMAS61
    @TMAS61 9 років тому +15

    Can you make a video on tuning your Tom-Toms and Bass Drum?

    • @MasshoffDrums
      @MasshoffDrums  9 років тому +5

      Terrence Smith Hi Terrence,
      the snare drum trick is an extract of my new DVD "The Ultimate Drumtuning Revolution".
      If you like to see more, check ou my new DVD at www.masshoffdrums.com.
      On that DVD you will find tuning tricks that allow you to tune Toms and Bassdrum in less then 2 minutes, control the pitch of every drum very
      easily or to control the low end on your bassdrum with just a drumkey! cheers Udo

    • @gotehjertquist8000
      @gotehjertquist8000 7 років тому

      Terrence Smith was

    • @mrnemo04
      @mrnemo04 6 років тому

      lol!

  • @HarrisonHarnisch
    @HarrisonHarnisch 7 років тому

    Just figured out how to make this work with an 8 lug snare
    +1.5 on the top two
    -1.5 on the bottom two
    left and right pairs can be used for tone
    Awesome video!

  • @g3arsgam3r
    @g3arsgam3r 7 років тому +2

    Am I the only one who loved the way it sounded at 3:56?

  • @levinmoser4001
    @levinmoser4001 7 років тому +29

    One two tree forrrrr

  • @canturgan
    @canturgan Рік тому +3

    Throwing a tea towel over the snare has a similar effect.

  • @RandHartje
    @RandHartje 7 років тому

    I run two snares on my kit, Tried this with 42 strand and it sounds awesome. really like that fat sound...Thanks

  • @dianaernst5861
    @dianaernst5861 7 років тому

    My snare sounded like crap at first until I came across this video,thank you for showing that trick.now if I need help with my snare I can come back to this video

  • @GatoPaint
    @GatoPaint Рік тому +11

    I love this, but I’m also concerned about the fact that people might try this on not so premium drums and they might bend their ring, is that an actual issue here? 😮

    • @arsonne
      @arsonne Рік тому +4

      Yes. This is not a good trick imo. You will warp your drum and/or hoop eventually

  • @pavlonwilcz5650
    @pavlonwilcz5650 5 років тому +4

    I actually have 42 snares as well, and table-tight bottom didn't work for me. Snares resonated too much. But what helper, was loosing four screws around snares on the bottom! Top scheme works great though!

    • @toofarpunk
      @toofarpunk 5 років тому +1

      Pavel Vilchytski did they really resonate too much? If you are a bedroom warrior maybe. If you play for people and record, not an issue.

    • @pavlonwilcz5650
      @pavlonwilcz5650 5 років тому +1

      @@toofarpunk it was a high pitch metalic decay in the end that was driving me nuts, so I had to dry my sound. Yes, I do records and that sounded nasty in mics. but for all the other snare drum i had the method is perfect!

  • @carlosolea4710
    @carlosolea4710 6 років тому

    Totalmente agradecido! I tunning my snare everytime I play. but with this, it will be so easy. Thanks! Ya quiero probar y afinar la caja de mi batería... Saludos desde Chile!

  • @bibiedrummer
    @bibiedrummer 7 років тому

    so nice,this will make every drummer in the world quickly prepared before a song start in gig or concert.THUMBS UP!😃👍

  • @Granadan
    @Granadan 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks Serj!

  • @nebulka-
    @nebulka- Рік тому +3

    dang he’s like super stoked

    • @bikerjon8934
      @bikerjon8934 2 місяці тому

      you would be too
      if you were wearing
      a giant thumb ring

  • @Goldfinger47
    @Goldfinger47 3 роки тому +1

    Loved this method. Got a fairly basic snare - Maple Decade - and with 8 lugs - but I just improvised and went 1 turn up and the 2 top lugs and about 1.5 down on the 2 bottom lugs, and loving the sound - exactly what I was looking for!

  • @spike3505
    @spike3505 7 років тому

    Thanks for increasing my knowledge, the way you can tune for both high and dry and low tones. My Ludwig 402 has never sounded so good. Thanks.

  • @sinankececi4041
    @sinankececi4041 8 років тому +104

    This will 100% decrease your drumheads lifetime also may damage your drum edges although it sounds cool.

    • @TheHouseofKushTV
      @TheHouseofKushTV 7 років тому +13

      Nice theory, makes total sense. Now show me the data.

    • @stlheavyboi
      @stlheavyboi 7 років тому +20

      +KushAudio uneven tension destroys the heads shoulder. Uneven tension can warp the shell or crack lugs. Uneven tension is the worst thing to do to a drum. It's relatively common knowledge.

    • @stlheavyboi
      @stlheavyboi 7 років тому +4

      +KushAudio I forgot the warped hoops as well. It's just a bad idea all around.

    • @TheHouseofKushTV
      @TheHouseofKushTV 7 років тому +30

      So... no data then, just an appeal to 'common knowledge'. Here's a competing theory: the vast majority of drums out there have moderately to wildly uneven tension, because the vast majority of drummers don't know how to tune drums. And the vast majority of those drums, hoops, and lugs are fine.

    • @tyronmadden939
      @tyronmadden939 7 років тому +5

      KushAudio Well done sir

  • @Imru_gamer
    @Imru_gamer 8 років тому +13

    bloody genius.

    • @MasshoffDrums
      @MasshoffDrums  8 років тому +2

      Thanks man! If you like to learn more about drumtuning check out my whole drumtuning DVD. The snare trick is only a little extract of it. On the DVD are many more lessons. For example my Masshoff Tuning Method, which allows you to tune every drum perfectly in less than 2 minutes. You will find more information about it on my website: www.masshoffdrums.com

  • @kobandz
    @kobandz 7 років тому

    I tuned my Tom's like this with less tension! and it worked bravo man good stuff..

  • @robbon2004
    @robbon2004 6 років тому

    i ve been looking at a few different ways and surprised on how many but i really like the control of this one and no muffle required

  • @solidzonewavestation
    @solidzonewavestation 2 роки тому +3

    This is totally insane

  • @chancebadon2090
    @chancebadon2090 3 роки тому +5

    How does this affect the wear and tear of the heads? Seems like they would have significantly worse durability with uneven tuning like that. Definitely sounds good though.

  • @cdlmunns
    @cdlmunns 7 років тому

    Simply Awesome....Simple to do, Great Results. Just try it!!!!

  • @p47paul
    @p47paul 7 років тому

    Fantastic approach to tuning and modifying to desired tones. Well done and thank you!

  • @MathijsIgnoul
    @MathijsIgnoul 8 років тому +24

    Doesn't this damage the hoop?

    • @lucasgonzaga4436
      @lucasgonzaga4436 8 років тому

      +Mathijs Ignoul
      i had this doubt too... but i don't think so... it actually looks like your hoop will be a little inclined but not bent... it still have a type of symmetry...

    • @baorozzo
      @baorozzo 8 років тому +2

      +Lucas Gonzaga usually tight to death one lug at a time with 2 turns like shown is the best way to bend the rim and damage the head, it's really preferible to use two lugs and go with smoother steps.

    • @pdwalker2
      @pdwalker2 8 років тому +1

      +Mathijs Ignoul yes, if you happen to have hoops made of tin.

    • @baorozzo
      @baorozzo 8 років тому +4

      +pdwalker2 believe me, i've bought some snare tuned (by other people) with this method and the diecast hoops bend too, because when you make 2 or 3 turns on one lug, and then on another, you are not sitting the hoop correctly, and it will bend, no matter which one you are using. And you will bend the shell too.

    • @MrSticks1994
      @MrSticks1994 8 років тому +1

      +baorozzo yep

  • @nunyabizness2620
    @nunyabizness2620 5 років тому +7

    Wow, great ingenuity! probably the single most effective tuning tip I have found to date. Fucking great indeed!

  • @Rugdoubler
    @Rugdoubler 6 років тому

    It makes sense. I already do all that on the bottom but the batter tuning is quite unorthodox. Gonna try it. Notice he has a forty strand wire. I highly recommend that, especially for deeper drums. That's a deep one.

  • @halm7813
    @halm7813 6 років тому

    You're my hero! I've been looking for a good snare drum tuning for a long time! Finally found it!

  • @Dave_Crewe
    @Dave_Crewe 9 років тому +7

    How could I use this technique with an 8-lug snare?

  • @thesuccessfulbarber
    @thesuccessfulbarber 8 років тому +3

    I do this by tuning my snare how I like and I tweak one tension rod

  • @grahammartin1461
    @grahammartin1461 2 роки тому

    I put some new heads on and been trying to tune my piccolo snare to get a decent sound for ages. This method is brilliant! No more ringing or buzzing to death from the drum. It sounds fantastic and so versatile with the quick tuning for changes to Latin rock styles. Thank you so much for sharing this 😎

  • @simon729
    @simon729 7 років тому

    I try it yet on my Pearl Masters Birch and the sounds amazing. Three screws controlled your overtones! Thanks a lot man!

  • @MrSigmund123
    @MrSigmund123 9 років тому +5

    Dude! That's impressive!! Will try asap! ;D

    • @MasshoffDrums
      @MasshoffDrums  9 років тому +2

      +Sigmund Barø I´m glad you like it! I have a new drumtuning DVD with all
      my revolutionary tuning systems out now.This trick is only a little
      extract of it! If you like to learn more check it out on:
      www.masshoffdrums.com/shop

    • @IlluminaudioOG
      @IlluminaudioOG 9 років тому +4

      +Masshoff Drums Please stop spreading this bad tuning technique. It will bend the rim of your snare drum and cost a lot of people a lot of money. The least you could do is use a snare head that isn't notoriously easy to tune. Any idiot can tune a 360 head. Not to mention that snare sounds like cardboard and would never cut through in a mix. Shame on you for spreading bad information.

    • @SamuTheFrog
      @SamuTheFrog 9 років тому +3

      ***** Im so glad Im not the only one who had a problem with this technique.

    • @hardfer83
      @hardfer83 9 років тому +2

      +Chad Haines At the 4:40 I just start to think that is greatest bulshit tunning I ever seen... not to mention the fact that you're bending your rims doing that, this is a lazy lazy way to tunning a snare only to reach poor results... As Chad says, Shame on you for spreading bad information.

    • @aarwonable
      @aarwonable 8 років тому

      Actually, you are wrong about the mix. This same tuning technique is used by Spectre Studios. He has a very popular video on it, and it doesn't have any ring in the mix whatsoever.

  • @petegeanocyde4069
    @petegeanocyde4069 8 років тому +3

    Will you teach me to football? Lol, good shit man. I'm so glad I stumbled upon ur video.

  • @AMx39
    @AMx39 2 місяці тому

    I know this is an old video but… mind blown!!! I can’t believe how good this method sounds. I’ve always took so long to get to tune a snare to perfect to the point it drives me nuts some times lol. This is the best trick indeed

  • @michaelgehrmann5331
    @michaelgehrmann5331 7 років тому

    I can't like this enough. It's an awesome tuning method.