The previous interior was MUCH better. Forcing all climate controls into a screen is the stupidest thing ever. Yet car manufacturers continue to ignore all critiques about it. Baffling.
How often do you use the climate switches? Set the temperature once and the automatic does her job. 2023 you don't have to adjust everything manually during driving.
The pre-facelift Velar was designed by designers and engineered by engineers. This facelift one has been designed and engineered by the accounting department
@@eugenembaiwa586 Such a shame, the pre-facelift Velar's centre console was more intricate and had more theatrics than the Range Rover Sport with its rising gear selector, electronically tilt adjustable screen and separate climate/drive mode screen. They could have at the bare minimum used the climate dials from the Range Rover Sport, since the F-Pace uses the exact same system, but no they made the Velar feel cheap on purpose, to upsell people on the RR Sport
@@eugenembaiwa586 precisely, they copied Tesla, but forgot that unlike Tesla they don't have a cult fan following who doesn't mind not having even a simple heads up display. Mercedes at least adds copious amounts of ambient lighting, chrome and huge full dash screens to make their screen only dashit slightly more interesting. Land Rover on the other hand has neither
i honestly prefer the pre-facelifted infotainment setup. it was way easier to use and honestly better looking too. now it just looks like every other car on the road.
@@stephengoldie8337 Everyone I talk to and every review I watch and all the comments are always complaints about a lack of buttons and how screens just suck, which they do. I don’t think its what people want its just cheaper to make.
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Yeah can being frugal be sexy please? recently mentioned that I'm frugal to a young woman and she gave me the weirdest look... Being financially responsible is looked down on
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@@just2view874I used to drive one. The dials were good but you have to press a button on the screen to toggle between fan speed and temperature. The screen is laggy as hell and the OS overall is ass. Everything about it is slightly annoying. The interior quality isn't that different from a Peugeot 3008. Also the car wants to shoot backwards when you try to reverse slowly
Completely agree, my Velar was much better than this. Oh, I had zero issues with it in 3 years, nothing at all went wrong. My wife still goes on about how much she loved it.
@@just2view874one thing, do not get the 2.0L diesel one. Has alot of problems and it sounds like an old peugoet. Probably because it is a peugoet engine
It just blew my mind when i saw the climate controls on the first car. The rotating knobs integrated into the screen looked so sleek and futuristic and matched the gear selector, the new one is the biggest downgrade of all time.
I really don't understand why auto makers go out of their way to make the driver experience so awful by removing physical buttons & controls and using haptic buttons. While not everything needs to be a button or dial, stuff like aircon, defogging, volume absolutely should be. Stuff that is used frequently should not be buried in a touch screen when it is clearly not safe for a driver to take their eyes off the road to find and use it.
The Tesla effect, Teslas are absolutely horrendous ergonomically, have low build quality and material quality, have nothing in their dashboards except a big screen in the middle. Yet journalists doesn’t seem to mind. Best car ever they say. Yet if the same thing is done in ICE cars or even EVs from other carmakers, they will go nuts.
It's cheaper. Some accountant proposed this idea, so they can lower the cost of production , they save millions of pounds in the process, charge the same and the savings go to the CEO's as a bonus in the process (because they charge the same, or even more for the new one).
Typical JLR. Just as other manufacturers start to accept the problem and start fitting physical controls again, JLR decide to remove them for a sh!tty all-on-one screen interface.
The over reliance on touch screens in modern cars is currently my least favorite trend. Dedicated, physical buttons/dials are an absolute must. Especially for things like climate controls, driver assist features, turn signals, etc. Nobody likes swiping through unresponsive touch screens in the cold just so you can turn on your heated seats.
The older interior had more of a sense of occasion about it . The tilting upper screen , the dual function climate/seat controls , the split upper and lower graphics which changed depending what driving mode you were in . The shifter that rose from out of the centre console , the hidden cup holder that appeared when you pressed the land rover logo . This one is just dull.
I honestly like the older versions exterior and infotainment system/ interior layout over the new car!! Just about every aspect of the pre facelifted car looks better in my opinion. It’s pretty crazy that they gave the Velar a facelift and update, yet somehow managed to make almost every aspect of the new car WORSE than the previous version of the car!!!!
Totally agree about the interior update, it’s not good. It looks and feels more like a cost cutting change than anything else. Cheap plastics, bland design and no cup holder covers at key touch points for both driver and passenger = poor. I went to my local dealer to check out for my next car, but I’m pretty disappointed.
It's honestly so damn unbelievable and frustraing that every 200€ phone has better perfomance and better UI than the infotainment of every car there is from cheap up to very expensive.
If JLR's aim was to create a range of rovers that nobody could tell apart from one another then my hat is off to them. They have done this masterfully.
@@v12-s65 and there’s always someone who thinks they are better than everyone else because they can tell the difference between cars based on the shape of a window switch
@@ruk2023-- no I can tell the difference by actually using my brain. But you are correct, I recognize oncoming traffic while driving at night just by the headlight design. Or the tail lights from 500 meters far away quite consistently. However alone the size difference for the Velar is enough to realize what it is
I agree with you, the interior looks much worse. The second screen was such a futuristic feature in the Velar when it came out which I absolutely loved. They definitely made it go backwards.
It’s a huge stepdown compared to the original Velar. JLR made some aggresive cost cuttings in the interior. New centre console looks horribly cheap for a luxury suv.
I've had my (2019) Velar P250SE for 4 and a half years now. Drives beautifully, acceleration good. Once one issue with a stained roof lining was fixed at new. I have had absolutely no issues with this car. I was going to sell it at year 5 when the warranty expires but pretty sure I'll keep it another 5. It's so trouble free and it'll be a few more years before the market improves on EVs and Hybrids.
I have the old style. Pulling away at a round about, it hesitates which is a bit nerve wracking, and most times you just wait for bigger gap. Leg room in the front passenger seat is terrible. In the cold, the handles don't pop out unless you use the remote, and even then some of them don't open, or close.... Low profile tires make a very uncomfortable ride, and usual electrical faults from LR. Depreciation has also been hell. Bought 2nd hand for £44K, 2 years later, 26K. USB devices don't always work, and sometimes, there is a huge delay before the radio, or music starts playing (depending on what mood the car is in!!). DAB signal is terrible compared to other cars in the area. And as covered in the video, you are quite low down to what would expect from such big car and the front pillars obscure your view when turning.
@@jono999s Sports mode does make a difference (when you don't have the Adaptive Dynamics Fault....!). However the sport (i.e. R-dynamic) mode automatically disables when you restart, and you have to activate it each blooming time!
Dave . I di get the but 3 years and 2200 k's not miles as I live downunder no faults ........yet but it does drive nice now my 2013 amarok drive like a lift wobbly box but to be fair that's just a school bus
The most important question is, when they are gonna improve the reliability of their vehicles? Making exterior ad interior changes ain't cutting it no more!
Hmm, I love the car. It is a real dreamcar for me. But the facelift, especially in the interior is not a big deal. The old interior looked better and it seems, it has the better usability.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention whether they’d fixed (or not) the security of the car. There’s reports of people, both in rural and urban areas, being flat out rejected for insurance due to how easy RRs are to steal.
In my XF, I put the wipers into service mode to change the blades, same procedure as on the Velar there, unaware that there's a time limit. Of course the arms slammed down and smashed the windscreen. Not the handiest of features I must say
Why changing a running system? To be fair ... Evoque seems to be ok. Velar after that. Tho I have seen a Velar in my town ... shortly after one door handle was defective (no more in place). I am planning to buy an old RR from 2002 ... when it goes kaboom I will convert it to a privacy desk 😁
I though Mat said the next upload is going to be another really cool cybertruck drag race after the last drag race? All good, I am happy to see another regular car get reviewed and it actually be a great one as well. Save the "not want to miss" video for Saturday. Looking forward!!!
I have a 240 D HSE. I hate the new interior which is just cost cutting by JLR. The previous arrangement was much better with the rotary gear selector rising up and the additional cup holder revealed but pressing the Land Rover button. If I have a criticism of my car it would be the weighting of the rotary dials on the lower screen .
Disappointed with the direction Land Rover has chosen to take with their future models. No rising gear selector, no electronically tilting dual screens, no 3D effect for the LED tail lights, no physical dials, full touchscreen climate controls, car settings buried deep in the touchscreen and more. This is clear and simple cost cutting by Land Rover. In my personal opinion the Velar has lost its "special" feeling which the original 2017 model exudes in abundance. There are no unique touches, no rotary dials which change based on the menu one is in, no Land Rover badge which opens a hidden cupholder, no screen which can be be adjusted for tilt angle. The sense of occasion has been irrevocably lost. Now it's like any other car, with a huge iPad stuck onto the dash, which apart from being curved is not even integrated properly with the dashboard.
The A/C and Drive Mode selector are easier to use than what he’s showing. You can slide the temp up and down to quickly change it. Same with the drive mode
I always liked RRs and still do, but the interior is a serious disappointment to me. The old one was cumbersome and slow (something the new gen does not seem to improve on) but it was way nicer and definitely classier, which let's face it, RR is all about class. So much so, that had I been able to actually afford one, that could well end up being a dealbreaker for me. Just has that 90s budget car vibe to me.,
Another great review! But, your quote "I can't even remember where it is" 😂regarding the infotainment system, says it all for me. The complex useability and experience would be a huge 'No' for me and probably many others looking to upgrade.
The thing is with all cars, 90% of features work as learned behavior. If you own the car and you use a feature more than a couple of times, you know exactly how to operate it. Therefore there is a lot on inconsistency between reviews of other cars which have been reviewed much more often or used as long term cars where journalists are much more familiar with how they work.
The review also hasn't been tested correctly. You can use the talk button on your steering wheel and ask it to do something for example set temperature to 20 and it will adjust the temperature for you therefore you don't need to use the screen. If you want to touch the screen you can just slide it up and down depending on how hot or cold you want it. There is also a short cut button on the steering wheel you can set for example heated seats. It's extremely easy to use and the effect of no buttons has been completely over exaggerated !
Agree with the two comments. Sat in one at a dealer getting my 2012 LR4 serviced (no, it wasn't broken, 105k mile standard service) and within 30 minutes I had most functions figured out within the system. While I was a strong supporter of separate temp dials, I actually started to like this system. And I saw the short cut button and was going to configure it for AC but the salesman caught me and politely commented I might not want to do that on the floor model 😂 Anyway, I liked the screen and layout more than I thought I would. The nav screen was really nice - bright, responsive, 3D version was adjustable so you could pull the horizon up or down - nice. Also, the center console armrests slide forward to cover the cup holders, so completely negates that comment.
ALWAYS GET ONE WITH A WARRANTY! This is the first car - Range Rover Sport l494 that I had to replace 2 engine blocks due to 2 completely different issues. Thank god for the warranty, but my car was not even that high mileage, not to mention that it was driven mostly on long trips with my family and well maintained. They also have issues on almost all of their engines, mine is 3.0 SDV6, but the petrol ones have issues too. I think that only the 4.4l Diesel is good, but I'm not sure if it's even still on sale.
In case anyone is interested apart from the nerds amongst us, Velar is derived from the Latin velum (veiled) and was used in the 60s as the name for the new vehicle being developed by Land Rover. Nerd mode off. My mate's Dad worked for Land Rover in Solihull and he had use of a pre-launch test mule (prototype) in white. It had removable rubber mats and no carpet, so you could hose it out. Ground breaking vehicle in it's day, now ruined by excessive electronics, leather, carpet and crap styling.
I find it funny how there's the notion that big cars need big wheels to fill up the arches, when in fact big rims only became a thing because performance cars need bigger brakes, and those don't fit in small rims. That 21" rear wheel with those tiny brakes look awkward.
I own a 2023 BMW X3 m40i and im almost positive the trunk space is 550 liters. I think the only way it becomes 450 liters is if you get the add on optional non run flat tires and decide to get the full size spare tire. Most X3's will get the full trunk space (550 liters) since runflats come standard.
Just for this reason, owning a Toyota in the same segment makes me feel happier than owning a Range Rover. I think they are made untrustworthy on purpose to defraud pop culture people.
Reliability on this will be interesting considering what I've heard about my mate's one. Hope to review it soon but if they break, good luck getting parts!
If they had used the space in the center console area with the controls present, that would also be preferable to me. Moving it to the screen and making it difficult to have quick access is bad programming. Why no voice interface to control functions?
It’s a shame, so many car manufacturers are ruining the driving experience, by replacing the easy accessible controls and putting them into the infotainment screen. I am very pleased, I don’t have that problem with my Nissan Qashqai Tekna +. What I don’t have physical buttons and knobs for, voice activation takes care of. 🙂
Was that a Lotus Electre out in the open world at 19:09? If so, you should be reviewing that Matt... Or, you were recording with it as well on that day 🤔
I rented this car with 3.0d for a week through SIXT Germany. The comfort is Superb. The info system is a little complicated, especially the heating, and AC settings.
Bring back physical buttons for certain functions where drivers can do some adjustment without taking their eyes off the road. And touch sensitive button is lifeless. Mat did make very good points when he mentioned the driver have responsibility to the passangers.
I'm 32 & have a 2023 RS5 Vorsprung coupe £1400 with 4 yrs no claims & I live in a nice area with virtually zero crime. I can't imagine how much 20-somethings have to pay to drive something nice!
Why you always forget to talk about ambient lighting... This is something that is missing from land rovers and for a lot of people is a must at night driving ❤
Apparently the Daily Telegraph found just two insurers willing to cover a Range Rover Velar R-Dynamic in London, with an average annual premium coming in at £22,515 ($27,770)..... so even if the new ones have better security vs non-existent, they're pretty much un-insurable.
Quick question though... Why is it not being compared to the coupe version of the Q5 and an X4 and for a giggle compare it to the F-Pace (as it's basically the same car😂)? As I'd have thought the X3 and Q5 are more comparable to the Discovery Sport? 🤔
The old infotainment and center console looked way better, manufacturers need to stop this minimalist approach towards everything. There's something satisfying when you have physical controls. The old system was the right balance between physical and touch controls. I hope JLR brings that back or some version of the same when they release the next version. They could've just used the system from Facelifted RR Sport which is pretty good in my opinion.
I'm with you on getting rid of the rotary controls; they were a high-quality touch point and really easy to use. Ergonomically the new 'human-machine interface' is just worse. But the driver's screen is also really easy to use after a quick read of the handbook.
Just a question regarding comparing this car to the BMW X3...is this not more in line with an X5? I always thought it was, or have I got my sizes mixed up?
wipers..... i think all manuf should look at the Ford Transit Custom (probably on other Fords) they hide under the bonnet but, theres magic pixies (or maybe an electric clutch) you can grab them and move them all over the screen with the ign off
Beautiful car but putting all contols to flimsy tablet screen is a big mistake. Going through menus while driving with winter gloves on is just impossible.
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Matt I think i agree, step down cockpit wise and the software powering these entertainment systems must be outsourced to 3rd parties/partners. I can't imagine these systems are tested in house to a standard you'd expect and with the customer and ease of use in mind. Who is testing this stuff, I work as a Software/Testing engineer for a large bank and we'd be shot if we released something so sluggish. Maybe I need to work for the car industry 🤔
Probably the thing I hate most in modern cars is the trend of hiding every possible control behind complicated menus on a touchscreen system. If there hasn't been any already, I await the first serious accidents caused by distracted drivers trying to navigate over complicated touchscreens built in to their cars.
Second most stolen car in the UK. Some insurance companies refusing to insure them. People have been quoted £25k to £35k a year to insure one. The luxury SUV’s desirability and high market value have made it a prime target for thieves seeking to make significant profits on the black market. Additionally, older models of the Range Rover are susceptible to keyless theft, a method used by thieves involving the use of devices that intercept and amplify signals from the owner's key fob allowing them the freedom of entry.
Is anyone buying JLR anymore? The quality control is still questionable and the insurance premiums are insane. I honestly don't know why you'd choose this over a decent Lexus RX450
usb in the rear seats would be awesome. You have a place to keep the cords hidden. No cords stretching across the footwell. The ability to use the short 3' cords phone manufacturers provide. etc. It's a win win....win.
One thing I wish they would tell you about is whether it has a spare tyre or not. Also where it's placed. After having a flat tyre in a Mazda 6 I'll never have a car without a spare wheel
To get into Sports mode you could have just simply pulled the gear lever towards you and second time and it goes into Sport, pull it again and it goes back to comfort. Simple and no screen faffage.
That’s incorrect. What you have described will only place the ZF gearbox into sport mode whereby it will hang on to the gear longer before changing up. It will not sharpen the throttle response, steering or suspension setup. For all these three, it’s necessary to use the touchscreen. Trust me, when you’re on a fast country road and want to quickly change the settings to blast past the infamous Nissan Micra or Tesco truck limited to 40mph for your safety (!), you really don’t want to be faffing about with a touchscreen and embedded menus. The original Velar was conceived by Gerry McGovern back when JLR and TATA were cash rich - design and engineering trumped the accountants. Things are very different now. This facelift is a thinly veiled attempt at rampant cost cutting to increase the profit margin on each car sold. If you still desire a brand new Velar and have the budget, the right configuration is the 3.0 diesel six cylinder with air suspension with those 21” wheels and privacy glass. These cars look very average when poorly configured but drop-dead gorgeous if the right specification is selected. I know. I have one and she is wonderful, really she is.
@@Arianne2019 thanks for the info, I don’t have a Velar, I have the new Sport and use this function from time to time but always felt it stiffened things up a bit too, maybe not.
Knobs, switches, dials and sliders are practical and you can use them without looking, menu diving on the cars ipad is hazardous and similar to texting while driving. Looks a nice car though.
The previous interior was MUCH better. Forcing all climate controls into a screen is the stupidest thing ever. Yet car manufacturers continue to ignore all critiques about it. Baffling.
Because it's actually easier once your used to it
@@gypsyemperor7535easier😂😂😂 you mean cheaper to the manufacturer
Over using Screens 👎👎👎
How often do you use the climate switches? Set the temperature once and the automatic does her job. 2023 you don't have to adjust everything manually during driving.
@@rui619 you don't own one lol
The pre-facelift Velar was designed by designers and engineered by engineers. This facelift one has been designed and engineered by the accounting department
😂😂😂
@@eugenembaiwa586 Such a shame, the pre-facelift Velar's centre console was more intricate and had more theatrics than the Range Rover Sport with its rising gear selector, electronically tilt adjustable screen and separate climate/drive mode screen. They could have at the bare minimum used the climate dials from the Range Rover Sport, since the F-Pace uses the exact same system, but no they made the Velar feel cheap on purpose, to upsell people on the RR Sport
@LordTechPro they really went overboard to make it look and feel cheap. That gear shifter just sitting there in the cold on plastic!?🤦♂️
@@eugenembaiwa586 precisely, they copied Tesla, but forgot that unlike Tesla they don't have a cult fan following who doesn't mind not having even a simple heads up display. Mercedes at least adds copious amounts of ambient lighting, chrome and huge full dash screens to make their screen only dashit slightly more interesting. Land Rover on the other hand has neither
Moreover, all cars from LR became cheaper in production/components, but more expensive for the consumer. It's just ridiculous.
i honestly prefer the pre-facelifted infotainment setup. it was way easier to use and honestly better looking too. now it just looks like every other car on the road.
Yup. Another car ruined by a stupid big screen and removal of physical buttons.
Honestly why can't both exist together it will be brilliant@@surreygraham4466
@@surreygraham4466, Car makers make what people want. The old button system just looked cluttered. much better and tidier to have on a screen.
@@stephengoldie8337 until you start using it, it's either the screen or the road ( or should I say the tree)
@@stephengoldie8337 Everyone I talk to and every review I watch and all the comments are always complaints about a lack of buttons and how screens just suck, which they do. I don’t think its what people want its just cheaper to make.
Never seen so HUGE step back in design and ergonomics in a new model compared to the previous one.
Is the BMW X3 a joke to you? 😂
Finally a Carwow video that is not on the cybertruck.
I was getting tired too
sucks it’s was only 4 videos 😂but felt like a 100 once it beat the urus i didn’t really need to see it beat a ford truck 😅
Real
About damn time
Look at the views on those videos and you know why they made 4 of them
We need to normalize a simple lifestyle and stop normalizing debt. Huge SUVs, huge houses and private universities are simply not necessary. I live within my budget and I sleep better at night knowing that if I lose my job tomorrow, ' be fine. I didn't buy the biggest house. I bought the one I could comfortably repay
Yeah can being frugal be sexy please? recently mentioned that I'm frugal to a young woman and she gave me the weirdest look... Being financially responsible is looked down on
I think people should also seriously look into investing of some kind. Something that brings money back to your pocket, real estate, stocks, whatever can bring back value to their bank account rather than draining it. Obviously investing has its risks but so does just having money in depreciating assets or straight up liabilities.
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Used to have a Velar, and I much prefer its interior compared to that new one - feels like it's been a value-engineering exercise.
What problems did you encounter when you had it?
@@just2view874I used to drive one. The dials were good but you have to press a button on the screen to toggle between fan speed and temperature. The screen is laggy as hell and the OS overall is ass. Everything about it is slightly annoying. The interior quality isn't that different from a Peugeot 3008. Also the car wants to shoot backwards when you try to reverse slowly
Completely agree, my Velar was much better than this. Oh, I had zero issues with it in 3 years, nothing at all went wrong. My wife still goes on about how much she loved it.
@@lexfrancis5916 was it worth the money?
@@just2view874one thing, do not get the 2.0L diesel one. Has alot of problems and it sounds like an old peugoet. Probably because it is a peugoet engine
It just blew my mind when i saw the climate controls on the first car. The rotating knobs integrated into the screen looked so sleek and futuristic and matched the gear selector, the new one is the biggest downgrade of all time.
I really don't understand why auto makers go out of their way to make the driver experience so awful by removing physical buttons & controls and using haptic buttons. While not everything needs to be a button or dial, stuff like aircon, defogging, volume absolutely should be. Stuff that is used frequently should not be buried in a touch screen when it is clearly not safe for a driver to take their eyes off the road to find and use it.
The Tesla effect, Teslas are absolutely horrendous ergonomically, have low build quality and material quality, have nothing in their dashboards except a big screen in the middle. Yet journalists doesn’t seem to mind. Best car ever they say. Yet if the same thing is done in ICE cars or even EVs from other carmakers, they will go nuts.
@@Mav86asiantbf newer tesla aren't built that bad
It's cheaper. Some accountant proposed this idea, so they can lower the cost of production , they save millions of pounds in the process, charge the same and the savings go to the CEO's as a bonus in the process (because they charge the same, or even more for the new one).
What a stupid trend. Regulations should impose dedicated controls for some of the features. After all it's also about safety.
Typical JLR. Just as other manufacturers start to accept the problem and start fitting physical controls again, JLR decide to remove them for a sh!tty all-on-one screen interface.
The over reliance on touch screens in modern cars is currently my least favorite trend. Dedicated, physical buttons/dials are an absolute must. Especially for things like climate controls, driver assist features, turn signals, etc. Nobody likes swiping through unresponsive touch screens in the cold just so you can turn on your heated seats.
The screen should only really be used for GPS and displaying the radio station.
The older interior had more of a sense of occasion about it . The tilting upper screen , the dual function climate/seat controls , the split upper and lower graphics which changed depending what driving mode you were in . The shifter that rose from out of the centre console , the hidden cup holder that appeared when you pressed the land rover logo . This one is just dull.
I honestly like the older versions exterior and infotainment system/ interior layout over the new car!! Just about every aspect of the pre facelifted car looks better in my opinion.
It’s pretty crazy that they gave the Velar a facelift and update, yet somehow managed to make almost every aspect of the new car WORSE than the previous version of the car!!!!
Totally agree about the interior update, it’s not good. It looks and feels more like a cost cutting change than anything else. Cheap plastics, bland design and no cup holder covers at key touch points for both driver and passenger = poor. I went to my local dealer to check out for my next car, but I’m pretty disappointed.
It's honestly so damn unbelievable and frustraing that every 200€ phone has better perfomance and better UI than the infotainment of every car there is from cheap up to very expensive.
It's better not having these screens IMO. They date cars so badly
If JLR's aim was to create a range of rovers that nobody could tell apart from one another then my hat is off to them. They have done this masterfully.
yeah no. They're easy to tell apart.
But there is always somebody who leaves a comment like this, for merc, audi etc
@@v12-s65 and there’s always someone who thinks they are better than everyone else because they can tell the difference between cars based on the shape of a window switch
@@ruk2023-- no I can tell the difference by actually using my brain.
But you are correct, I recognize oncoming traffic while driving at night just by the headlight design. Or the tail lights from 500 meters far away quite consistently.
However alone the size difference for the Velar is enough to realize what it is
@@v12-s65 I was really aiming my comment at the average buyer not the 5% of us that spend our time watching car reviews on UA-cam
@@ruk2023-- well I wouldn't potentially buy the Velar however I'm quiet interested in an SVR with the Meridian Signature sound system
I agree with you, the interior looks much worse. The second screen was such a futuristic feature in the Velar when it came out which I absolutely loved. They definitely made it go backwards.
The old Velar looks better from inside and outside from the new one
Yep. Complete regression inside and out.
It’s a huge stepdown compared to the original Velar. JLR made some aggresive cost cuttings in the interior. New centre console looks horribly cheap for a luxury suv.
Looking forward to seeing more reviews of cars that were revealed this year instead of just drag races
Well said. I never watch drag races. I'm over 16
Yep, I don’t bother with the drag races
Non-carpeople talk is real
@@sashoxxx so is your loser talk
Never watch the drag races.
I've had my (2019) Velar P250SE for 4 and a half years now. Drives beautifully, acceleration good. Once one issue with a stained roof lining was fixed at new. I have had absolutely no issues with this car. I was going to sell it at year 5 when the warranty expires but pretty sure I'll keep it another 5. It's so trouble free and it'll be a few more years before the market improves on EVs and Hybrids.
Even seeing the new Carwow branding, my brain still shouts “BUY, SELL, CAR, WOW!!” When I see the logo
I have the old style. Pulling away at a round about, it hesitates which is a bit nerve wracking, and most times you just wait for bigger gap. Leg room in the front passenger seat is terrible. In the cold, the handles don't pop out unless you use the remote, and even then some of them don't open, or close.... Low profile tires make a very uncomfortable ride, and usual electrical faults from LR. Depreciation has also been hell. Bought 2nd hand for £44K, 2 years later, 26K. USB devices don't always work, and sometimes, there is a huge delay before the radio, or music starts playing (depending on what mood the car is in!!). DAB signal is terrible compared to other cars in the area. And as covered in the video, you are quite low down to what would expect from such big car and the front pillars obscure your view when turning.
That sounds horrible
I heard the hesitation was deliberately programmed in for "smoother" driving and can be unprogammed but why should you have to ?
Put it in sport mode it helps but I know what u mean
@@jono999s Sports mode does make a difference (when you don't have the Adaptive Dynamics Fault....!). However the sport (i.e. R-dynamic) mode automatically disables when you restart, and you have to activate it each blooming time!
Dave . I di get the but 3 years and 2200 k's not miles as I live downunder no faults ........yet but it does drive nice now my 2013 amarok drive like a lift wobbly box but to be fair that's just a school bus
The old exterior, especially on profile looked more distinctive and was much better.
The most important question is, when they are gonna improve the reliability of their vehicles? Making exterior ad interior changes ain't cutting it no more!
Hmm, I love the car. It is a real dreamcar for me. But the facelift, especially in the interior is not a big deal. The old interior looked better and it seems, it has the better usability.
Dream car? Sad
@@markgt894 your answer is sad. Can I deside on my own, what I prefer or do I have to ask you before?
@@jetforcer84 my opinion, it’s sad.
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@@markgt894whats you’re dream car then? Let me guess… a bugatti chiron super sport ?
I’m surprised you didn’t mention whether they’d fixed (or not) the security of the car. There’s reports of people, both in rural and urban areas, being flat out rejected for insurance due to how easy RRs are to steal.
Only from model 2018 onwards I believe. So 2017 not covered.
In my XF, I put the wipers into service mode to change the blades, same procedure as on the Velar there, unaware that there's a time limit. Of course the arms slammed down and smashed the windscreen. Not the handiest of features I must say
why the heck add a time limit, it's not a contest to change wipers lol
The one thing that should be accessible from a touchscreen menu, and they use a ridiculous procedure pressing random buttons instead.
There is no time limit if you leave the keys in the car whilst changing them. Otherwise the car goes to sleep and puts the wipers back into rest mode.
Should have taken it up with jaguar to cover the windscreen
Yeah but u ended up paying JLR for a new windscreen, right?
Mat is always on point he points out useless features rather than sugarcoating it
But then he said you should shortlist the car anyway solely because it has a Range Rover badge. Like what
first video not of a cybertruck this month, a breath of fresh air.
and it worked flawlessly during the ENTIRE filming of this review!
Have they changed the reliability as well?
Well if you actually just talk to the TATA group they will take these things on
Why changing a running system?
To be fair ... Evoque seems to be ok. Velar after that.
Tho I have seen a Velar in my town ... shortly after one door handle was defective (no more in place).
I am planning to buy an old RR from 2002 ... when it goes kaboom I will convert it to a privacy desk 😁
Yea TATA has saved a lot off money that’s the only problem with the screens
German cars have poor reliability thesedays. If you want reliability youd be better with a Toyota Landcruiser not an X5
@@Lemingtona-x5glet us not forget Merc
Miss the off road challenges, would be fun with non suv - 4WD cars too 😊
I though Mat said the next upload is going to be another really cool cybertruck drag race after the last drag race? All good, I am happy to see another regular car get reviewed and it actually be a great one as well. Save the "not want to miss" video for Saturday. Looking forward!!!
you can swipe the volume and temperature up and down directly from the home screen, even though I also prefer the older layout.
Ranger Rover is becoming more and more slick, love these SUV's
I have the old one, I’m keeping it for another 4-5 years
How has it been in terms of reliability ?
@@thehood8203 just two issues, laggy user interface and massage function failed in the front driver’s seat
Alright am considering getting one so I appreciate the owners review
@@thehood8203 depends on the engine in terms of reliability. Avoid the 2.0L diesels.
I have a 240 D HSE. I hate the new interior which is just cost cutting by JLR. The previous arrangement was much better with the rotary gear selector rising up and the additional cup holder revealed but pressing the Land Rover button. If I have a criticism of my car it would be the weighting of the rotary dials on the lower screen .
Disappointed with the direction Land Rover has chosen to take with their future models. No rising gear selector, no electronically tilting dual screens, no 3D effect for the LED tail lights, no physical dials, full touchscreen climate controls, car settings buried deep in the touchscreen and more. This is clear and simple cost cutting by Land Rover. In my personal opinion the Velar has lost its "special" feeling which the original 2017 model exudes in abundance.
There are no unique touches, no rotary dials which change based on the menu one is in, no Land Rover badge which opens a hidden cupholder, no screen which can be be adjusted for tilt angle. The sense of occasion has been irrevocably lost. Now it's like any other car, with a huge iPad stuck onto the dash, which apart from being curved is not even integrated properly with the dashboard.
I used to work at the factory in Solihull where they make these. I helped launch the 1st gen of velar. Sad times 😢
???
Were all employees told they have to build unreliable cars?
The A/C and Drive Mode selector are easier to use than what he’s showing. You can slide the temp up and down to quickly change it. Same with the drive mode
Interior: talk about a downgrade
19:09 did I just see a Lotus eletre in the background?🤔
I always liked RRs and still do, but the interior is a serious disappointment to me. The old one was cumbersome and slow (something the new gen does not seem to improve on) but it was way nicer and definitely classier, which let's face it, RR is all about class. So much so, that had I been able to actually afford one, that could well end up being a dealbreaker for me. Just has that 90s budget car vibe to me.,
I had the Velar a couple years ago and I still miss this car. Maybe I will come back some day
Another great review! But, your quote "I can't even remember where it is" 😂regarding the infotainment system, says it all for me. The complex useability and experience would be a huge 'No' for me and probably many others looking to upgrade.
The thing is with all cars, 90% of features work as learned behavior. If you own the car and you use a feature more than a couple of times, you know exactly how to operate it. Therefore there is a lot on inconsistency between reviews of other cars which have been reviewed much more often or used as long term cars where journalists are much more familiar with how they work.
The review also hasn't been tested correctly. You can use the talk button on your steering wheel and ask it to do something for example set temperature to 20 and it will adjust the temperature for you therefore you don't need to use the screen. If you want to touch the screen you can just slide it up and down depending on how hot or cold you want it. There is also a short cut button on the steering wheel you can set for example heated seats. It's extremely easy to use and the effect of no buttons has been completely over exaggerated !
Agree with the two comments. Sat in one at a dealer getting my 2012 LR4 serviced (no, it wasn't broken, 105k mile standard service) and within 30 minutes I had most functions figured out within the system. While I was a strong supporter of separate temp dials, I actually started to like this system. And I saw the short cut button and was going to configure it for AC but the salesman caught me and politely commented I might not want to do that on the floor model 😂 Anyway, I liked the screen and layout more than I thought I would. The nav screen was really nice - bright, responsive, 3D version was adjustable so you could pull the horizon up or down - nice. Also, the center console armrests slide forward to cover the cup holders, so completely negates that comment.
ALWAYS GET ONE WITH A WARRANTY! This is the first car - Range Rover Sport l494 that I had to replace 2 engine blocks due to 2 completely different issues. Thank god for the warranty, but my car was not even that high mileage, not to mention that it was driven mostly on long trips with my family and well maintained. They also have issues on almost all of their engines, mine is 3.0 SDV6, but the petrol ones have issues too. I think that only the 4.4l Diesel is good, but I'm not sure if it's even still on sale.
Prefer the older Velar, which is now very good value as nobody can insure them.
No they are cheap because of their problems
In case anyone is interested apart from the nerds amongst us, Velar is derived from the Latin velum (veiled) and was used in the 60s as the name for the new vehicle being developed by Land Rover. Nerd mode off. My mate's Dad worked for Land Rover in Solihull and he had use of a pre-launch test mule (prototype) in white. It had removable rubber mats and no carpet, so you could hose it out. Ground breaking vehicle in it's day, now ruined by excessive electronics, leather, carpet and crap styling.
I find it funny how there's the notion that big cars need big wheels to fill up the arches, when in fact big rims only became a thing because performance cars need bigger brakes, and those don't fit in small rims. That 21" rear wheel with those tiny brakes look awkward.
I know a lot of people will disagree with me but I really don’t like the way ranges look. I think they are very overrated
@@Lennonryanmusici completly agree with u
And then they break down
@@wpjohn91 plus stupid insurance premiums
@@amitpatel1121so bloody easy to steal to relieve you from the mechanical bills
I own a 2023 BMW X3 m40i and im almost positive the trunk space is 550 liters. I think the only way it becomes 450 liters is if you get the add on optional non run flat tires and decide to get the full size spare tire. Most X3's will get the full trunk space (550 liters) since runflats come standard.
I love the range rover design so much. Shame that they are very expensive to maintain
Just for this reason, owning a Toyota in the same segment makes me feel happier than owning a Range Rover. I think they are made untrustworthy on purpose to defraud pop culture people.
What about reliability of ingenium diesels? Do they still broke apart before 100t km?
Reliability on this will be interesting considering what I've heard about my mate's one. Hope to review it soon but if they break, good luck getting parts!
The previous model still had the RANGE ROVER badge on the rear, not LAND ROVER as you are saying...
Bravo, an honest review of a British car from a British reviewer. Top Gear would have made it look like it was the best car, in the world 😜
It's not a British car brand actually, It's an Indian car brand as TATA motors bought Jaguar and Land Rover in 2008.
The only thing that matter is if they ACTUALLY improved reliability. If they did it'll sell, if they didn't it won't.
I like the shape and design of the velar alot, I will buy one day 😂
Be ready to pay up for maintenance though
If they had used the space in the center console area with the controls present, that would also be preferable to me. Moving it to the screen and making it difficult to have quick access is bad programming. Why no voice interface to control functions?
The pre face lift is the better model and the real deal!😅
It’s a shame, so many car manufacturers are ruining the driving experience, by replacing the easy accessible controls and putting them into the infotainment screen. I am very pleased, I don’t have that problem with my Nissan Qashqai Tekna +. What I don’t have physical buttons and knobs for, voice activation takes care of. 🙂
Love the review Mat ❤
Was that a Lotus Electre out in the open world at 19:09? If so, you should be reviewing that Matt... Or, you were recording with it as well on that day 🤔
Let's make the same car, just change the interior then call it new and we're going to charge you more for it. Pretty smart! 👏🏾 👏🏾
It’s a mid life update, not a new car. Also the prices are better
No one is calling it a new car.
thats what the Germans do, new bmw 5 series has cheap plastic look
I rented this car with 3.0d for a week through SIXT Germany. The comfort is Superb. The info system is a little complicated, especially the heating, and AC settings.
Update looks simply like an exercise in saving money and making more profit for Land Rover…… 🤔
Bring back physical buttons for certain functions where drivers can do some adjustment without taking their eyes off the road. And touch sensitive button is lifeless.
Mat did make very good points when he mentioned the driver have responsibility to the passangers.
Whether you can insure it is another thing !!!
I'm 32 & have a 2023 RS5 Vorsprung coupe £1400 with 4 yrs no claims & I live in a nice area with virtually zero crime. I can't imagine how much 20-somethings have to pay to drive something nice!
Why you always forget to talk about ambient lighting... This is something that is missing from land rovers and for a lot of people is a must at night driving ❤
Lexus Nx is a totally different level of quality. Built to last and this is the opposite.
Basically paying to drive ‘Range Rover’ name. Until it breaks down in a few years and becomes too expensive to repair.
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Apparently the Daily Telegraph found just two insurers willing to cover a Range Rover Velar R-Dynamic in London, with an average annual premium coming in at £22,515 ($27,770)..... so even if the new ones have better security vs non-existent, they're pretty much un-insurable.
Those wiper blades will break 😂 along with everything else
lol its not a bmw
@@Lemingtona-x5gbmw's are a bit more reliable
There is a tonne of Velar models on the Aussie market now at very low Kms. What is wring with them to make the buyers sell them so quickly?
Now race it against the cyber truck!
Quick question though... Why is it not being compared to the coupe version of the Q5 and an X4 and for a giggle compare it to the F-Pace (as it's basically the same car😂)? As I'd have thought the X3 and Q5 are more comparable to the Discovery Sport? 🤔
The sooner there’s legislation to reverse controls being embedded in layers of screens the better. Agree with you, the pre update was better interior.
The old infotainment and center console looked way better, manufacturers need to stop this minimalist approach towards everything. There's something satisfying when you have physical controls. The old system was the right balance between physical and touch controls. I hope JLR brings that back or some version of the same when they release the next version. They could've just used the system from Facelifted RR Sport which is pretty good in my opinion.
9:00 Too bad the rear cup holders are exposed. At least they’re sized well & beside each other.
I'm with you on getting rid of the rotary controls; they were a high-quality touch point and really easy to use. Ergonomically the new 'human-machine interface' is just worse. But the driver's screen is also really easy to use after a quick read of the handbook.
Just a question regarding comparing this car to the BMW X3...is this not more in line with an X5? I always thought it was, or have I got my sizes mixed up?
wipers..... i think all manuf should look at the Ford Transit Custom (probably on other Fords) they hide under the bonnet but, theres magic pixies (or maybe an electric clutch) you can grab them and move them all over the screen with the ign off
Would it be a good first car? I don’t go into town very much, mostly for school where there’s good easy parking
Beautiful car but putting all contols to flimsy tablet screen is a big mistake. Going through menus while driving with winter gloves on is just impossible.
sir, give us each best 10 recommendations on certain price range (i.e 30k - 50k, 50k - 70k) for car certain categories (suv, crossover, hatchback, saloon, performance), one group per video will do, thank you
Matt I think i agree, step down cockpit wise and the software powering these entertainment systems must be outsourced to 3rd parties/partners. I can't imagine these systems are tested in house to a standard you'd expect and with the customer and ease of use in mind. Who is testing this stuff, I work as a Software/Testing engineer for a large bank and we'd be shot if we released something so sluggish. Maybe I need to work for the car industry 🤔
19:13 noice greeny Lotus Eletre in the back 👀
Probably the thing I hate most in modern cars is the trend of hiding every possible control behind complicated menus on a touchscreen system. If there hasn't been any already, I await the first serious accidents caused by distracted drivers trying to navigate over complicated touchscreens built in to their cars.
For me, it is such a beautiful design! Out of my range though 😢
Love the integrity and the farness, good job man
Have they fixed the security problem tho ?
Second most stolen car in the UK. Some insurance companies refusing to insure them. People have been quoted £25k to £35k a year to insure one. The luxury SUV’s desirability and high market value have made it a prime target for thieves seeking to make significant profits on the black market.
Additionally, older models of the Range Rover are susceptible to keyless theft, a method used by thieves involving the use of devices that intercept and amplify signals from the owner's key fob allowing them the freedom of entry.
I think at this point car manufacturers, who keep the headlights washes and don't cut costs on that, deserve a praise.
Is anyone buying JLR anymore? The quality control is still questionable and the insurance premiums are insane.
I honestly don't know why you'd choose this over a decent Lexus RX450
Nice review! Looking forward to your next video!
I cant believe i lusted over this car. Definitely made the right move staying in the Volvo/Polestar family.
usb in the rear seats would be awesome. You have a place to keep the cords hidden. No cords stretching across the footwell. The ability to use the short 3' cords phone manufacturers provide. etc. It's a win win....win.
Thank you always as always Matt. Where did you buy your green military long sleeve sweater? Thank you.
One thing I wish they would tell you about is whether it has a spare tyre or not. Also where it's placed. After having a flat tyre in a Mazda 6 I'll never have a car without a spare wheel
So grateful my old Polo has a full size spare.
I would never buy a Velar
Just get a Europe wide car assistance subscription. You call the assistance and they will be there in 20min. Problem fixed.
@@redwhite_040 yeah but that costs a lot more than a spare tyre in the boot
Wait Mat, whats that green car at 19.09? Can't recognize it. Probably most interesting part of this review 😁
To get into Sports mode you could have just simply pulled the gear lever towards you and second time and it goes into Sport, pull it again and it goes back to comfort. Simple and no screen faffage.
That’s incorrect. What you have described will only place the ZF gearbox into sport mode whereby it will hang on to the gear longer before changing up. It will not sharpen the throttle response, steering or suspension setup. For all these three, it’s necessary to use the touchscreen. Trust me, when you’re on a fast country road and want to quickly change the settings to blast past the infamous Nissan Micra or Tesco truck limited to 40mph for your safety (!), you really don’t want to be faffing about with a touchscreen and embedded menus. The original Velar was conceived by Gerry McGovern back when JLR and TATA were cash rich - design and engineering trumped the accountants. Things are very different now. This facelift is a thinly veiled attempt at rampant cost cutting to increase the profit margin on each car sold. If you still desire a brand new Velar and have the budget, the right configuration is the 3.0 diesel six cylinder with air suspension with those 21” wheels and privacy glass. These cars look very average when poorly configured but drop-dead gorgeous if the right specification is selected. I know. I have one and she is wonderful, really she is.
@@Arianne2019 thanks for the info, I don’t have a Velar, I have the new Sport and use this function from time to time but always felt it stiffened things up a bit too, maybe not.
Knobs, switches, dials and sliders are practical and you can use them without looking, menu diving on the cars ipad is hazardous and similar to texting while driving. Looks a nice car though.