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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
  • This video shows the analysis and reverse engineering of an electronic assembly which was supposed to be inside a Ukrainian "Stugna-P" missile launcher.
    One board contains an Atmel ATMEGA168 micro-controller which is connected to a MEMS rate gyroscope and one MEMS accelerometer. The gyroscope is soldered on a small pcb which is mounted on a small mechanical assembly. The angle of the gyroscope can be adjusted using two screws.
    Another board permits the servo control of the position of something linked to a brushless motor.
    00:00 - Intro
    02:04 - Gyro and accelerometer processing board
    04:45 - Interface / DSP / CPU board
    03:36 - Brushless motor servocontrol
    05:39 - Reverse engineering: MEMS Gyro assembly
    06:04 - MEMS Accelerometer
    06:28 - Microcontroller Atmega168
    07:12 - Ribbon cable interface
    08:04 - Servo control board overview
    08:49 - MC33035 Brushless DC motor controller
    10:15 - DAC circuits
    11:27 - Summing amplifier and phase correction
    12:47 - Absolute value circuit
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  • @wolpumba4099
    @wolpumba4099 3 місяці тому +8

    *Analysis of Military Electronic Boards from Stugna-P Missile Launcher*
    This video dissects and analyzes the electronic components found within a suspected Ukrainian Stugna-P missile launcher. The analysis focuses on three main boards and their functionalities:
    *Gyro and Accelerometer Processing Board*
    * *02:04* - The board houses a MEMS gyroscope (ADXRS453) and a MEMS accelerometer (ADXL1001) for measuring angular velocity and acceleration.
    * *02:26* - An Atmel ATmega168 microcontroller processes data from the gyroscope and accelerometer.
    * *02:49* - The accelerometer's analog output is connected to the microcontroller's ADC input for conversion to digital data.
    * *03:01* - A ribbon cable with a comparator circuit transmits information between this board and another.
    *Servo Control Board*
    * *03:36* - This board manages the servo control of a brushless motor, possibly for positioning optical components.
    * *04:12* - A DAC (Digital-to-Analog Converter) on this board provides voltage input for the servo control loop.
    * *08:49* - The MC33035 brushless DC motor controller governs the motor's operation based on input from the DAC and feedback from a potentiometer.
    * *10:15* - DAC circuits translate digital position commands into analog voltage signals.
    * *11:27* - A summing amplifier combines the feedback voltage and DAC output to generate an error voltage for controlling the motor's speed and direction.
    *Interface/DSP/CPU Board*
    * *04:45* - This board acts as an interface between other components, containing MOSFETs, optocouplers, and connectors.
    * *05:08* - A Texas Instruments TMS320F DSP (Digital Signal Processor) was present on the board, suggesting advanced signal processing capabilities.
    * *05:23* - Another unidentified IC was missing from the board, leaving its exact function unknown.
    i used gemini 1.5 pro
    Token count
    5,428 / 1,048,576

  • @RandomByte89
    @RandomByte89 3 місяці тому +10

    Thanks Michel. Keep the military tech videos coming. I love them.

  • @TheEmbeddedHobbyist
    @TheEmbeddedHobbyist 2 місяці тому +1

    Good to see that the wires pass through the pcb before being soldered. A very simple way to provide the wiring with protection against vibration.

  • @davidparrot4669
    @davidparrot4669 2 місяці тому

    merci Michel , toujours super intéressant , bravo pour la retro , encore un grand merci pour le partage c'est a chaque fois un réel plaisir.

  • @user-wr9le9tx8i
    @user-wr9le9tx8i 3 місяці тому

    Incredible analysis of Stugna-P electronics, Thanks for the video. We ask for more electronics from various rockets and aircraft)

  • @Woffy.
    @Woffy. 3 місяці тому +6

    Despite this being well out of my wheelhouse I find your reverse engineering and analysis to be very interesting, although other than driving away the irritating TV licensing inspectors I can;t think of a use for a $20.000 Stugna-P missile system, even with the HE-FRAG option.
    However I and others are interested in how you manage to acquire all these military toys'. Any comment on Dassault-Breguet Super Étendard Exocet Air / Ship / Land (1982 hack) ! .... ? Nice Schematics.

  • @twicecookedpork6220
    @twicecookedpork6220 3 місяці тому +12

    The "FP" logo on the PCB is that of Fastprint, a large Chinese PCB fab.

    • @ArtyomGalstyan
      @ArtyomGalstyan 3 місяці тому +8

      oh shit. this is bad actually. all military equipment must be produced at home country.

    • @zedsdeadbaby
      @zedsdeadbaby 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ArtyomGalstyan Stugna-p is Ukrainian and pre-dates the war, it is not surprising to see Chinese components in it.

    • @ArtyomGalstyan
      @ArtyomGalstyan 2 місяці тому +4

      @@zedsdeadbaby Its not so much concern about components, but more of the PCB layout. If the components were also pnp in China, this is a huge issue. They could steal the design. I hope they only printed the PCB.

    • @kamu38
      @kamu38 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ArtyomGalstyan there is nothing juicy at all from what I can see here? Targeting boards are probably developed somewhere else.

    • @user-sr6pi5lp3q
      @user-sr6pi5lp3q 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ArtyomGalstyanif a russkie says..

  • @skaos0110
    @skaos0110 3 місяці тому

    très intéressant a voir, merci!!

  • @needleneck3770
    @needleneck3770 3 місяці тому

    this is very cool, i work for a company that uses gyros for downhole drilling navigation, cool to see other implementations of mems gyros

  • @paulpaulzadeh6172
    @paulpaulzadeh6172 2 місяці тому +3

    We use this in our products Acoem laser alignment ICM-42688-P from TDK. With KALMAN filter you can get very good results. We do signal process in Software ARM CPU

  • @xb1t2mm3ujf2
    @xb1t2mm3ujf2 3 місяці тому

    Thanks, very interesting...

  • @user-bq3rm9fs2i
    @user-bq3rm9fs2i 2 місяці тому +3

    Головне що працює, і працює дуже гарно. А обЗирать обозрімоє кожен так може.

    • @uaz-3163
      @uaz-3163 2 місяці тому +2

      под высокотехнологичными блоками с ПЛИС цинк и ксайлинсками и GLONASS из РФ собранными на западных чипах "Русские ничего не могут,смешная электроника, все развалилось"
      Под видео с платами местного производства на ATMEGA168 "Зато работает". Убогие людишки ,вы что не смогли стиралки разобрать посовременнее :)?

  • @msylvain59
    @msylvain59 3 місяці тому +3

    The screws are soviet era style slotted head design, while all the components and the pcbs are imported, interesting

    • @burningsinner1132
      @burningsinner1132 3 місяці тому +3

      Because Stugna-P missiles are not new missiles. These are reassembled missiles of soviet "Castet" (Brass knuckle) ATGM complex installed on T-55/T-62 tanks, with "Sheksna" (Named after a river) and "Bastion" missiles respectively.
      Stugna-P uses essentially the same missiles with old, expired components rebuilt and with a new warhead, which shows a bigger bulge because of how HEAT works (That's why her caliber is 130mm and not 100/115). There are no wonders, there is no magic in the world and heroics only get you that far.

  • @MirceaPrunaru
    @MirceaPrunaru 3 місяці тому +7

    You can extract data/code from that Atmel microcontroller =)) we can learn stuff from it.

    • @AlphaAquilae
      @AlphaAquilae 3 місяці тому +3

      I'm 99.9975% sure that the Lock-bits are set and you can't read its memory.

    • @jlskee
      @jlskee 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@AlphaAquilaeooooh, not sure, lock bits are set 😂😂

    • @kamu38
      @kamu38 2 місяці тому

      @@AlphaAquilae this can be circumvented.... check out glitching

    • @AccidentalScience
      @AccidentalScience 2 місяці тому

      Is it possible to workaround the lock bits?

  • @tripleaaa7086
    @tripleaaa7086 3 місяці тому +4

    This part belong to the rocket it self ,not the launcher due to gyro ic's it contain

  • @tHaH4x0r
    @tHaH4x0r 2 місяці тому +1

    If they are surprised that if they are going for reliability, that they would connect the accelerometer via an analog signal (2:50). You'd think that a digital bus would be more reliable with EMI.
    Might be interesting to see if you can pull the firmware of the atmel chip! Shouldn't be hard to try.

  • @tariqsingh3747
    @tariqsingh3747 2 місяці тому

    even if you can't pull the firmware, any chance of just probing the UART?

  • @videostodososdiasnobartolo6883
    @videostodososdiasnobartolo6883 2 місяці тому

    Cara, o que me deixa perplexo é que depois do desmoronamento soviético a indústria mundial passou a se terceirizar para a China, e muitas empresas fecharam ou terceirizaram sua linha de produção, o que fez dessas empresas reféns do sistema

  • @salehsalehi8955
    @salehsalehi8955 2 місяці тому +1

    Great Video ! What schematic capture software do you use in this video ?

  • @user-sr6pi5lp3q
    @user-sr6pi5lp3q 2 місяці тому

    Will be there a open source port to arduino?

  • @tomteiter7192
    @tomteiter7192 2 місяці тому

    Interesting. I think I've never seen such a single gate logic component like the NOR gate actually used. But maybe I simply didn't look up every SOT23-5 part I came across...

  • @tlsoft
    @tlsoft 2 місяці тому

    How do you read the writing on the chips, if they're removed?

    • @lelabodemichel5162
      @lelabodemichel5162  2 місяці тому

      Concerning the ATmega168 you can program or read the content of program memory using the SPI bus via the 6-pins connector K2, if the lockbit is not set...

  • @Janktzoni
    @Janktzoni 3 місяці тому +1

    Well.... The least to say is that it was inspired by Arduino designs, You could download half of the schematics strait from their forums

    • @tonyalexeev14
      @tonyalexeev14 2 місяці тому +2

      Чипы atmel довольно распространены на территории украины ,беларуси и росии много разработчиков сними работает так пошло с 2000 годов

  • @paulpaulzadeh6172
    @paulpaulzadeh6172 2 місяці тому

    Fast Print (FP) mark on pcb , Chinese pcb manufacturing, we have them in our company, not so qualified for military purposes.

  • @ligius3
    @ligius3 2 місяці тому

    I like the teardown but I'm missing the context. Perhaps a block diagram analysis would help us mere mortals.

  • @robertthallium6883
    @robertthallium6883 2 місяці тому

    Stuhna* missile. The Stugna would be spelled 'стуґна'

  • @user-xy3xg7tw8h
    @user-xy3xg7tw8h 2 місяці тому +3

    The first Stugna was practically a copy of the Soviet ATGM 9K116 "Brass Knuckles".

  • @offline9218
    @offline9218 2 місяці тому +6

    Don't reveal our secrets!!!

    • @humbertomonteiro6742
      @humbertomonteiro6742 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, spot on... 😢

    • @unixux
      @unixux 2 місяці тому

      The good stuff is in the flash anyway …

  • @Priestonwheel
    @Priestonwheel 2 місяці тому

    That technology is at least 30 years behind where the real thing is now and 40 years behind the development military technology is today at R&D

  • @uaz-3163
    @uaz-3163 2 місяці тому +1

    Исключительно украинские чипы, никакого импорта.А нет стоп.Это же чипы от ардуино! Лолки.Уровень поделки домашний кружок рукоблудия.

  • @erwe1054
    @erwe1054 2 місяці тому +2

    Слава Украине !!!

  • @cecilia_mackie
    @cecilia_mackie 2 місяці тому

    Wow! Let's be friends?

  • @user-xy3xg7tw8h
    @user-xy3xg7tw8h 2 місяці тому +4

    This is a copy of the Russian ATGM

    • @user-sr6pi5lp3q
      @user-sr6pi5lp3q 2 місяці тому +4

      No, this is an evolution of a SOVIET ATGM. Stop calling soviet russian.

    • @sheikbombalot5781
      @sheikbombalot5781 2 місяці тому

      @User, lol Russian-Soviet… Same thing!

    • @user-sr6pi5lp3q
      @user-sr6pi5lp3q 2 місяці тому

      @@sheikbombalot5781 no, murican, soviet union included Ukraine and other countries.