"If Dave loves that pile, I'm in love with that pile after that" so funny!! Interesting game, the communication between you all was really fun to watch.
I get that not all gaming groups are as 'friendly' with table talk, but I just watched you guys laugh your asses off (and throw in a little risque humour) for 30 minutes playing a game where you count up from 1 and down from 100. That is a successful filler game in my books. In my opinion, turning this into a taciturn game with minimal talking to avoid "cheating" would eviscerate any spirit in this game and make it a pointless exercise. Thanks very much for the video. If it's relatively inexpensive when it comes to my FLGS, I'll definitely pick it up.
fitz33 I think IF a group attempted to play this silently it would soon erupt into shouting as people get frustrated that other people mess their plays - could be more fun I am certain this game has been done before with a traditional card deck? Much like the Clubs game is President/Sh!thead I think this is possibly a BETTER game than Hanabi which is its nearest comparison as you have more limited options and people will be more tolerant of plays which are not that great...its almost beautifully simple I have to agree that the comments on the artwork were spot on...this needed a cartoon-y 6 Nimmt kind of look - maybe the designers were trying to avoid that as it would lead to comparisons Oh a 200( how many cards were there?) card deck should not cost much - if it does its a rip-off
The rules specifically state that all communication is allowed besides saying concrete numbers to each other. "don't play on that pile" or "don't make too big of a jump on that pile" are allowed and encouraged. So saying "I love that pile" is fine because here is no actual number being said.
Yes, but it shouldn't be said in a way, that it implicates what exactly you are going to do. Saying "I looooooovvvveee this pile" immidiately indicates that you can lift/drop the pile.
The way they are saying it does communicate an exact number. (when he says he LOVES the pile with 43 on top, he's clearly communicating to the table that he has 53 in his hand) I'm pretty sure that's against the spirit of the rules.
@@emberassington I believe all he should have said was please do not play on this pile. That would either indicate that he has a 42, or that he can bounce the pile back up.
@@emberassington My belief is to look at it this way. If somebody you didn't know, but who knows how the game is played walked up on the table, and based on the comment KNEW what number you had, it's illegal. Otherwise it's okay. For instance, saying "I can bounce that back" tells any knowing observer you have the card 10 removed in the other direction. Similar with something like "I'm adjacent to that" or "I'm as close as possible to that" would be illegal. But "I love that" could be interpreted by an outside observer as a bump back, an adjacent number, or something one or two away. My problem with most of these games is that they don't address what happens when somebody cheats, accidentally or otherwise. It almost inevitably happens in the middle of the game, and what do you do? Just muck the game and start over?
@@LS-Moto why else would you say “don’t play on that pile” specifically instead of “don’t move that pile too much”? Change the first for “love” and the second for “like” and you’re essentially at the same place. The only thing you’re not differentiating is the occasion where you can play the exact next number and the one where you can bring it back by then. Anyway, both are great and if you say “don’t play on that pile” no one should play unless it’s because they can bring it back 10. TL:DR: love/like is not much different from what the rules say explicitly.
When Aaron said "there's an idea for a game" (referring to only being able to play a game once), I though about Exit from 2017's Kennerspiel nominees :]
The big difference with Hanabi is that Hanabi restricts what you can tell. Choose a player and a type (color or height) and you must tell that player which cards of his hand are of that type. You only have a limited set of codes available. In The Game you're only forbidden to use numbers but you have the full dictionary available to build more codes than you need.
The rules specifically say: “you can say don’t play on that pile”. To me, this says clearly that you can communicate that you have the number to make it go back and the game was played as intented. I agree with Dave that, after that, it’s a thing to consider to evaluate whether you like the game or not, but it’s not cheating.
This is a cooperative card game in which players wish to play cards in a certain order like Hannabi. That is where the similarity ends. I can see why this was nominated. The name does leave much to be desired. (The name reminds me of The Guild) As for the artwork, I am sure that Frank Castle and the Venture Brothers approve.
I think the way you guys played is fair. I think the rules are saying not to say something like this: "There is a 78 on the table, don't play there because I have the 77 and 75!" That, to me, is cheating, but you guys didn't in anyway play like that. Saying you like a pile is still pretty vague which is completely fine and fair.
House rule in the groups I play with? Not stacked but splayed - so you can see what has previously been played. Trying to remember what's already out there in a stack is nye on impossible
One of you said "huggermugger" during the game. Not sure what the meaning is, but i have a board game called that. Its old but could be something fun for you to find and play
The Game would play better if instead of players saying what they like they were given two color markers to place on the cards they like. This way all players they can like two different stacks without so much open communication which seems to slow this game down to a crawl..
I have no idea how this Game came into existence, what is this game? It looks like it took the Artwork from an Anthony Horowitz book and the name did made me think of the Michael Douglas movie before a Spiel nominee.
If "I love" means "I got 10 away", it just literally becomes an alias for the same phrase, its like "I love" means "10 away" in some made up language. How about a house rule where you cant use the same phrase twice in a game? So it encourages you to think of how to describe what you are trying to say, i.e. encourages communication. You can say "I love this pile" once, but next time you gotta come up with some other way to describe it. The Mind is a much better game than this, and The Mind isnt even that amazing.
Doesn't happen. If he is out of cards, and everyone around the table gets their cards off, then the game is beaten. Every player has the same amount of cards at all times, so it doesn't happen that one player gets rid of his cards few rounds prior.
@@LS-Moto It can happen, once the draw pile is empty, players have to play at least 1 each turn but can play more. SO you can empty your entire hand of 6 cards and not be able to refill. My guess is you simply skipp that player because they are done.
@@monkeyunit4533 that's right, but that only happens after the pile is gone. Is one player stuck on his hand while the deck is still there, its game over.
Without any mitigation on the starting hand it's hard. You can always bounce one pile back up, but I don't like this. The "love" thing is also silly. Every game where you cannot say out loud something devolves into this, it's better to just allow saying "I can bounce this". Nice gameplay anyway!
Not really. Saying you love a pile only implicates, that either you can bounce it, or you cards within the same number dimension. Of course you shouldn't overdo it with the " I loooooovvvee this pile"... as this dictates what your ambition is.
Judging by your videos, I think I would like The Mind game better. There's a bit too much talking in this game. I haven't actually played either though.
There were turns that she was thinking for evvvvvvvvvar.... Then finally played the very next card in numerical order. I mean... What was she thinking? No judgement, just curious.
Interesting game with the worst name imaginable. Looks good for a low player count, but at higher ones it seems like it just turns into a reservation mess.
@@gfshurtsI just picked up this game at a thrift store along with Sushi Go for $3.50 total. I have a more current version and the artwork is completely opposite of this version and quite beautiful.
"If Dave loves that pile, I'm in love with that pile after that" so funny!! Interesting game, the communication between you all was really fun to watch.
Watching Lincoln crack up with laughter is always so fun.
I get that not all gaming groups are as 'friendly' with table talk, but I just watched you guys laugh your asses off (and throw in a little risque humour) for 30 minutes playing a game where you count up from 1 and down from 100. That is a successful filler game in my books.
In my opinion, turning this into a taciturn game with minimal talking to avoid "cheating" would eviscerate any spirit in this game and make it a pointless exercise. Thanks very much for the video. If it's relatively inexpensive when it comes to my FLGS, I'll definitely pick it up.
fitz33 I think IF a group attempted to play this silently it would soon erupt into shouting as people get frustrated that other people mess their plays - could be more fun
I am certain this game has been done before with a traditional card deck? Much like the Clubs game is President/Sh!thead
I think this is possibly a BETTER game than Hanabi which is its nearest comparison as you have more limited options and people will be more tolerant of plays which are not that great...its almost beautifully simple
I have to agree that the comments on the artwork were spot on...this needed a cartoon-y 6 Nimmt kind of look - maybe the designers were trying to avoid that as it would lead to comparisons
Oh a 200( how many cards were there?) card deck should not cost much - if it does its a rip-off
Nikki sees a 64 going down:
"I have to think about this, idk guys"
Nikki places a 62 ... 🙄
Dave holding his hand of cards upside down is WRECKING my OCD.
Once seen, can not be unseen. Thanks.
The rules specifically state that all communication is allowed besides saying concrete numbers to each other. "don't play on that pile" or "don't make too big of a jump on that pile" are allowed and encouraged. So saying "I love that pile" is fine because here is no actual number being said.
Yes, but it shouldn't be said in a way, that it implicates what exactly you are going to do. Saying "I looooooovvvveee this pile" immidiately indicates that you can lift/drop the pile.
The way they are saying it does communicate an exact number. (when he says he LOVES the pile with 43 on top, he's clearly communicating to the table that he has 53 in his hand) I'm pretty sure that's against the spirit of the rules.
@@emberassington I believe all he should have said was please do not play on this pile. That would either indicate that he has a 42, or that he can bounce the pile back up.
@@emberassington My belief is to look at it this way. If somebody you didn't know, but who knows how the game is played walked up on the table, and based on the comment KNEW what number you had, it's illegal. Otherwise it's okay. For instance, saying "I can bounce that back" tells any knowing observer you have the card 10 removed in the other direction. Similar with something like "I'm adjacent to that" or "I'm as close as possible to that" would be illegal. But "I love that" could be interpreted by an outside observer as a bump back, an adjacent number, or something one or two away.
My problem with most of these games is that they don't address what happens when somebody cheats, accidentally or otherwise. It almost inevitably happens in the middle of the game, and what do you do? Just muck the game and start over?
@@LS-Moto why else would you say “don’t play on that pile” specifically instead of “don’t move that pile too much”? Change the first for “love” and the second for “like” and you’re essentially at the same place. The only thing you’re not differentiating is the occasion where you can play the exact next number and the one where you can bring it back by then. Anyway, both are great and if you say “don’t play on that pile” no one should play unless it’s because they can bring it back 10. TL:DR: love/like is not much different from what the rules say explicitly.
It’s really funny watching the communication chat after watching these folks playing the mind!
The name of this game is a problem, try finding this game by searching 'The Game'. I'm still trying to find it.
+thomassaurus coolstuffInc.com got it
It’s not difficult. Just type “the game card game” and it comes up easily.
This literally made me laugh out loud 🤣🤣
The Love is the new name for that game.
I love Mark, he is one of my favorites!
When Aaron said "there's an idea for a game" (referring to only being able to play a game once), I though about Exit from 2017's Kennerspiel nominees :]
The big difference with Hanabi is that Hanabi restricts what you can tell. Choose a player and a type (color or height) and you must tell that player which cards of his hand are of that type. You only have a limited set of codes available.
In The Game you're only forbidden to use numbers but you have the full dictionary available to build more codes than you need.
The rules specifically say: “you can say don’t play on that pile”. To me, this says clearly that you can communicate that you have the number to make it go back and the game was played as intented. I agree with Dave that, after that, it’s a thing to consider to evaluate whether you like the game or not, but it’s not cheating.
I think saying "Don't play on that pile" could also mean they have the next consecutive number.
The Iron Giant!!! I just got The Game and thanks for your good and also entertaining videos I know now how it works!
"I'm immediately in like with that pile" HA HA HA HA!!!
i love watching you guys play so much thanks for another great game
Interesting cross between Solitaire variations and Bridge conventions encouraging cooperative gameplay.
Nikki's turns were frustratingly long this game
They always are
Is it coincidence that AP rhymes with Nikki?
This is a cooperative card game in which players wish to play cards in a certain order like Hannabi. That is where the similarity ends. I can see why this was nominated. The name does leave much to be desired. (The name reminds me of The Guild) As for the artwork, I am sure that Frank Castle and the Venture Brothers approve.
I think the way you guys played is fair. I think the rules are saying not to say something like this: "There is a 78 on the table, don't play there because I have the 77 and 75!" That, to me, is cheating, but you guys didn't in anyway play like that. Saying you like a pile is still pretty vague which is completely fine and fair.
House rule in the groups I play with? Not stacked but splayed - so you can see what has previously been played. Trying to remember what's already out there in a stack is nye on impossible
One of you said "huggermugger" during the game. Not sure what the meaning is, but i have a board game called that. Its old but could be something fun for you to find and play
Lol awesome !!!
The Game would play better if instead of players saying what they like they were given two color markers to place on the cards they like. This way all players they can like two different stacks without so much open communication which seems to slow this game down to a crawl..
I was smiling the whole time I watched this...probably going to buy it if I can get it under $15...since it's just a deck of cards.
This is like Quixx game which is played with dice instead of cards as in the GAME
You can go back or forward ten(reset) in QUIXX?
I have no idea how this Game came into existence, what is this game? It looks like it took the Artwork from an Anthony Horowitz book and the name did made me think of the Michael Douglas movie before a Spiel nominee.
WWU! My alma mater. :)
If "I love" means "I got 10 away", it just literally becomes an alias for the same phrase, its like "I love" means "10 away" in some made up language. How about a house rule where you cant use the same phrase twice in a game? So it encourages you to think of how to describe what you are trying to say, i.e. encourages communication. You can say "I love this pile" once, but next time you gotta come up with some other way to describe it. The Mind is a much better game than this, and The Mind isnt even that amazing.
I won't to ask you can you play whit paper pointing the cards that came out from the deck and not your cards in your hand ?
Why TF is Dave holding his cards upside down? How can he even play that way? Grrrrr...
Scare Crow huh? They’re just like any other cards. The number is the four corners and that’s pretty much all you look at.
Scare Crow huh? They’re just like any other cards. The number is the four corners and that’s pretty much all you look at.
what happens if one player is out of cards and it is his turn to play (the other players still have cards)?
Doesn't happen. If he is out of cards, and everyone around the table gets their cards off, then the game is beaten. Every player has the same amount of cards at all times, so it doesn't happen that one player gets rid of his cards few rounds prior.
@@LS-Moto It can happen, once the draw pile is empty, players have to play at least 1 each turn but can play more. SO you can empty your entire hand of 6 cards and not be able to refill. My guess is you simply skipp that player because they are done.
@@monkeyunit4533 that's right, but that only happens after the pile is gone. Is one player stuck on his hand while the deck is still there, its game over.
"The Game" or "How many Piles jokes can we fit in one episode".
Looks like a decent, but very frustrating game.
Without any mitigation on the starting hand it's hard. You can always bounce one pile back up, but I don't like this. The "love" thing is also silly. Every game where you cannot say out loud something devolves into this, it's better to just allow saying "I can bounce this". Nice gameplay anyway!
Not really. Saying you love a pile only implicates, that either you can bounce it, or you cards within the same number dimension. Of course you shouldn't overdo it with the " I loooooovvvee this pile"... as this dictates what your ambition is.
they just made me lose the game : (
I have to call a couple of my friends.
Now me too
Will we see the Kennerspiels too?
jonjon2222 Yes they will be up in two weeks with the discussion episode. Thanks for the note and for watching.
where or when can i buy this game?
nikki is so slow on every turn, its hard to watch
Wouldn't play myself (maybe the single player) but to AP for me long turns and lots of talk..but thanks....guys
Judging by your videos, I think I would like The Mind game better. There's a bit too much talking in this game. I haven't actually played either though.
I've seen 4 episodes today, I've been annoyed with Nikki 4 times....
Nikki is so hard to watch.....
Taylor Reiner her turns were frustratingly long this game...for cards that weren't even that bad
There were turns that she was thinking for evvvvvvvvvar.... Then finally played the very next card in numerical order. I mean... What was she thinking? No judgement, just curious.
Don't shuffle the cards like that. It quickly bends and breaks them.
I was cringing
What a ridiculous choice of name; "The Game". It's impossible to search for. Shame.
On BGG, you can search for GAME and KANNST because we kept the German subtitle in place on the listing to make search for this title easier. -WEM
They just made me lose the game. They never say you can't say you're able to decrease or increase a pile, so I guess it's viable.
Interesting game with the worst name imaginable. Looks good for a low player count, but at higher ones it seems like it just turns into a reservation mess.
JetsDuck And terrible artwork...
gfshurts I think the artwork is good but not fitting for the game
@@gfshurtsI just picked up this game at a thrift store along with Sushi Go for $3.50 total. I have a more current version and the artwork is completely opposite of this version and quite beautiful.
I just lost the _The Game_ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(mind_game)).
With all your "cheating" you barely "won" The Game.