Dungeons and Dragons Lore: Dragon Magic

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  • Delving deep into the two major sourcebooks for Dragon magic in 3.5 edition, we bring the lore into 5th edition and in a whirlwind tour, I scratch the surface of deeply nerdy draconic arcana.
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  • @TheHornedKing
    @TheHornedKing 4 роки тому +34

    This has given me some more insight into just how powerful Daurgothoth really is. The guy is a black dracolich, an archmage, and a chosen of Mystra. Now think about how great dragon magic is, put all that together, and his CR of 50 starts to make a lot of sense.

  • @madisondines7441
    @madisondines7441 4 роки тому +34

    True, but Arcane Tricksters not being able to cast 9th level spells is an abomination, and I'll never forgive them for that.

  • @mrl9418
    @mrl9418 4 роки тому +20

    The wise man : "In life there are only two, mutually exclusive, kinds of pains: discipline or regret."
    UA-cam Ads : "Download the most derivative mecha + boobs anime game ever."
    The wise man : "In life there are three..."

  • @phizzhead53
    @phizzhead53 Рік тому +27

    Having a gold dragon with a find adventurer spell like a find famaliar is just funny

    • @phizzhead53
      @phizzhead53 Рік тому +7

      Requires gold and a magic item as. A component which the dragon has to give up

    • @GreebleClown
      @GreebleClown Рік тому +2

      @@phizzhead53Would a gold dragon scale count as both? 🤔

  • @DCdabest
    @DCdabest 4 роки тому +10

    I always like to have all my Dragons be natural polymorphers as it helps create credible reasons why they can operate in my setting effectively.
    It's also much easier to dismiss the idea that a dragon is lairing under the local mountain when there is no dragon sized hole in the side of it.
    But a discreet opening that leads down a winding corridor and then open up into a cavernous treasure chamber is much easier to hide from prying eyes.
    So a dragon comes and goes in humanoid or animal disguise. And only assumes draconic form when relaxing at home or in a situation that requires it like combat.

    • @nandodando9695
      @nandodando9695 4 роки тому +1

      This is what I go looking for on zoopla

  • @walkseva
    @walkseva 4 роки тому +7

    "I was there, Gandalf...when the great republishing of 3rd became a half, when the souls of the grognards filled the caverns of forums, and when the splatbooks rivaled the stars."

  • @Arius_Astronomy
    @Arius_Astronomy 4 роки тому +16

    I feel that there is a certain black dragon responsible for some of these spells.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +5

      *nods vigorously*

    • @Arius_Astronomy
      @Arius_Astronomy 4 роки тому +6

      @@AJPickett *I am scared of no dragon but that thing... it terrifies me*

  • @markbasilejr9808
    @markbasilejr9808 2 роки тому +17

    I feel like a lot of people over looked how in 3.5 you get experience for over coming something with a cr. If you sneak past or talk your way out of a fight that's exp. DM discression if you want it to be full exp, but 3.5 doesn't have to be for murder hobos.

  • @antwan1357
    @antwan1357 2 роки тому +13

    You just gave me an idea for a Dragon crafter or smithy. A dragon could literally go full economist merchandiser. Literally having no scales , and being the richest dragon in the entire realm with a full army bought and paid for and enchanted buffed. He has corned the market on everything. Entire realms are in his dept he only goes to war when someone is brazen enough not to pay their dept. He then deposes the said ruler , and places another ruler in his place who will agree to take on the dept of the former ruler.

  • @animefan3794
    @animefan3794 4 роки тому +8

    Personally, I want a 5e conversation of the 3.5 class Dragonfire Adept. Even if it’s just a warlock Dragon Patron, something that genuinely feels like the 3.5 class did instead of the homebrews I’ve found where they make it a 4e controller type of play would be a godsend.

  • @user-qd8yy9lc4g
    @user-qd8yy9lc4g 4 роки тому +9

    Aye, I have homebrewed those subraces for 5e. Guess that goes into Homebrew chat now.
    And, on matter of 3.5 not letting you to play what you want from start, eh, that depends on the player. 5e is indeed good for one-shots but, really, it is not much stronger than 3e and derivatives on how you can play what you want to play. Still nice to hear an opposing opinion.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +1

      I love every edition, I've never played original first edition though.

    • @That80sGuy1972
      @That80sGuy1972 4 роки тому +1

      @@AJPickett You lost out. By 4th level, you can kill any monster in an epic level if you had at least 3 other players of the same level. I guess it was more of a power trip and min-max universe than the D&D boxed sets. Level 4 (in a group) was heroic and level 10 (in a group) was a juggernaut.
      In the original edition, I remember our 8h level group doing really well in several impossible dungeons and having no problem killing any dragon.
      I mean it was not really a walk in the park but it was far to easy relative to Dungeons and Dragons because HALF THE TITLE was "Dragons". Killing a dragon at any stage should be epic, not an end-of-dungeon boss fight.

  • @SassyXan
    @SassyXan 10 місяців тому +15

    Something that always confused me is the dragon blood Sorcerer usually has a dragon ancestor and yet half dragons are infertile, it makes no sense.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah *shrug* it doesn't

    • @andrewulrich8053
      @andrewulrich8053 6 місяців тому +1

      Procreation though magic

    • @Mariwend
      @Mariwend 6 місяців тому +1

      I guess only some dragon-other creature relations produce a half dragon.
      If dragons themselves have a higher chance for a hybrid to favor one dragon type, maybe interspecies is the same.
      So maybe you're 1/4 human or 1/4 dragon and that allows you to reproduce again.

    • @yignoloth
      @yignoloth 4 місяці тому

      who says half dragons are sterile?

  • @sagesheahan6732
    @sagesheahan6732 4 роки тому +8

    That explanation between editions is really good. Thats actually why I prefer 5e. It easier to make the character you want instead of waiting 10 levels to make them.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the support 🧙🏼‍♂️

  • @filthiman
    @filthiman 4 роки тому +7

    Undying vigor of the dragon lords completely blew my party's minds when my redspawn arcaniss (who was the boss of the dungeon) used it with a sudden maximize to basically restart the fight lol

  • @Kingdoms.Kobolds_81
    @Kingdoms.Kobolds_81 4 роки тому +6

    @ 2:04 the accompanying race bloodlines under the White and Blue dragons are switched... Or the Blue and White dragons are.
    I recognize that Blue's nose horn anytime 😄

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +1

      That's how they appear in the book 🧙🏼‍♂️

  • @Allchemyst
    @Allchemyst 4 роки тому +14

    As a "Stalwart defender of 3.5e" myself (Althought, I'll fully acknowledge how great 5e is objectively and what good it's done to make D&D more accessible - it's just really not for me), I think the "issue" can be much better understood this way :
    There always is going to be a certain amount of narrative dissonance between the rules and what your character is ; Especially in a P&P RPG, how your character is described in all its complexity and all the subtlety of its faculties will never be matched 100% by a specific ruleset, be it 3.5e or 5e.
    There is also clearly a spectrum, under which each and every player falls, when it comes to how much narrative dissonance a person is willing to tolerate. In my experience, 5e appeals more to people with a high tolerance, and vice-versa. For an example (a very simplistic example, but I think it's very telling), in the video AJ made a few weeks ago about how 5e's rules can be used without much alteration to create any context, even hard sci-fi, etc., he says that Spelljammer ships can be directly translated into spaceships, where a ballista can just be interpreted as a laser/blaster cannon or something, each doing 3d10 damage.
    Now, if everyone's on board to pretend that's what it is, it WORKS ; it's just a damage-dealing bit of a ship, but for people like me, it's not - and I mean, REALLY NOT - satisfactory at all. I see no reason, other than "not going insane over every detail" - which I LOVE to do, for the product of millenia of scientific advancement to deal "as much damage" as a medieval weapon (and mind you, not even a magical one...). Sci-fi weapons should work by different rules, as far as I'm concerned, because they ARE different things, usually of much greater power, which requires balancing in its own right, of course, and therefore a major adjustment to whatever ruleset you're using.
    It's like Psionics, which was this completely different system in 3e BECAUSE it was a completely alien form of power, but that 5e "normalized" all the way to hell to make it more accessible and in line with the other rules. YES it "works", YES, as long as you "pretend" it's different, then "it is", BUT if you want narrative coherence, where differences in the narrative and worldbuilding are represented by differences in the rules, then it really is not. If you're allergic to narrative dissonance, you're probably a 3e player.
    You see, the problem for old stubborn 3e tortles like me isin't that 5e "can't" be used to create everything. The issue is that we DON'T want to use it's rules, because the rules of 5e, for being incredibly flexible, also offer much, much less "mechanical" texture : We want powers from different sources to work in different ways ; we don't want a system that tells us "You can do whatever you want and pretend it works however you want, but all of it must be implemented mechanically in THIS specific manner". And as far as I'm concerned, not only does 3.5 offer more texture to the game's built-in mechanics, but it also constitutes a much, much better substrate for creating new mechanics and creatures, and especially when adding new magical objects (or even technology) to your game.
    So, as far as character creation is concerned, my complaint is mainly that YES, your 5e character is more well-rounded than a 3e character in the beginning... But it's also almost completely set on tracks after the first few levels. In 3e, beyond say, level 5, you have a trillion options for multiclassing, prestige classes, feats, skills you can distribute, etc. You can adapt your character to your campaign in a more refined manner, or you can build it in advance and drool over what it "might" become. The bottom line is this : 3e is a highly complex ruleset that rewards your growing mastery and understanding of it with a growing ability to create absolutely everything you want in a viable manner, so long as you're patient. 5e goes specifically out of its way NOT to do that, to make even unexperienced players feel like they've got a grasp on things and let them have fun. Both options are good ; if you like low-level one-shots, you're MUCH better with 5e, SO MUCH BETTER. But people like me? it's campaign and complexity all the way, baby. Why do some people like complexity? I don't know. Do you like puzzles? Because I do. In truth, I became a game master in the same way I became a programmer : I love learning about complex systems that let me build crazy stuff. And the crazier the better. Some people feel like simplifying a system makes it naturally more elegant. Personally, I feel it takes a form of genius to simplify a complex system into something elegant - and not into something that's just simpler.
    While 5e starting characters are usually more diverse than 3e starting chars, it so happens that mid-to-high-level 3e characters are 100 times more diverse that 5e characters of equivalent level. The options at your disposal are truly exponential. I've had the opportunity to both DM and play at high-level multiple times, and I'm sorry, the sheer colossal level of customization you get for high-level 3e chars is unbeatable, in my opinion - especially by 5e characters. Narrowing down that subtle complexity into a bundle or one larger overarching feat to make things more manageable like in 5e just takes away control that some people just. simply. enjoy. having. Independance and freedom have value in and of themselves, but they come at the cost of responsibility and work.
    Personally, after nearly 20 years of playing, I've ended up with a giant, 300 pages long, compendium of rules to integrate Warcraft, Mass Effect, WH40K, Halo, Star Wars, The Witcher and so much more. I know full well using 5e would've made it three times easier to build... but frankly... creating things for 5e just bores me to death. I don't want it to be easy, I want it to be meaningful, all the way down to the mechanics. Becoming a Death Knight from WoW with your runes of power, or a Biotic Adept from ME should come with cool and unique powers that are organized in a new and exciting manner.
    The sour mentality that often permeates people "like" me is, as far as I know, derived from the notion that the kind of experience we prefer is litterally being "passed by" and left behind by the greater community, a bit like videogame players who like complex systems are sour over every. single. major franchise being simplified to appeal to larger audiences for the sake of profit. It's not inherently bad or wrong, but the choice to do so can, and will, result in people, well, feeling left out... because they are being left out : We can either abandon our preferred playstyle, or stay behind. I personally don't, because I was blessed long ago with an amazing circle of friends to play with, but I understand the feeling of 3.5 players who can't get a group going because everyone and their mum is running 5e (Althought, that's the power of 5e : you can run it with yer mum). I don't think acting bitter, or generally being a**es about it is at all justifiable, but I "get" it.
    Any fan of 5e reading this should be vigilant : The suits at WotC have had a taste of the colossal sums of cash you get when you give a broader appeal to your product by making it more easily accessible. They'll want more of that. 6e will quite probably be even simpler and more streamlined than 5e, and so on. D&D stands to lose a lot in the process (By my metrics, at any rate... prepare for dumb phoenixes, magic-less dragons and really incompetent pit fiends to leak all over the game...). Unless they create multiple versions within the new edition to embrace all their players at once, but I don't think it's likely...
    Well, that was a mouthful... Thank you for reading, whoever might get all the way here! Have fun!

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +2

      I'm glad you have a great circle of friends that you can play D&D with the way you really enjoy. As a programmer, I'd be interested in your opinion on comparing the digital tools available for 3.5, 4th and now 5th edition.

    • @Allchemyst
      @Allchemyst 4 роки тому +8

      @@AJPickett Hehe - pleased to interact with you directly, btw, your content is pretty much the best there is out there!
      In all honesty, I've developed (or rather, I am developing... it's far from done...) my own support platform in Unity that does exactly what I want, and never looked back, so the other resources - especially what came out over the last 5 years - pretty much went over my head. I'm lucky enough that my group can meet physically, so I built a projector-based system that dosen't require internet connections or networking and gives me much more creative freedom than, say, Roll20 or the like. It's not appealing to most groups specifically because it's not usable online, but for a cluster of broke blokes that don't have a lot of table space and no miniature budget, it's been pretty cool. I'm not far from being able to field a space (or naval) battle with each ship being simultaneously a movable entity with its own stats AND a contained map with corridors and rooms that move along with it (boarding actions, anyone?). The potential is quite exciting. But excitement set aside, I'm afraid I can be of no use in comparing the existing tools, sadly ; I haven't been using them nearly enough to deserve giving a serious opinion on them.
      dang... I just cannot not make walls of text...
      Anyway, I really wish you and your channel keep going as strong as you have! May your mind be sharp, and your mead mighty!

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +1

      @@Allchemyst I will never stop :D

    • @whyuhatan
      @whyuhatan 4 роки тому

      @@Allchemyst Not trying to be rude but I am legitimately curious How are you still able to meet up physically with the planet in the middle of a pandemic do you live in New Zealand or do all own hazmat suits?

    • @Allchemyst
      @Allchemyst 4 роки тому +2

      ​@@whyuhatan Oh, we don't! lol, we just haven't played for the past few months, except for once over Roll20 - I guess we're so spoiled that Rping over the net just isin't as appealing. Everyone in my group has their little worries to deal with right now anyway, so opportunities would be scarce. Still, once this madness is over, OUR madness will resume! MWAAAHAHAHAHAAA!!

  • @hermionesydneygoldmanphynn498
    @hermionesydneygoldmanphynn498 4 роки тому +3

    I like the idea of a “black” dragon that lives in a sulfurous mangroves swamp, along with swimming humans and Kobold.
    But secretly that “black” dragon is actually a silver dragon commanded to protect a mangrove swamp by a powerful botanist.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 4 роки тому +5

    Ah, just a day off from my birthday. Timing that’s almost perfect.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +1

      Happy birthday Dr Bright!

    • @purplehaze2358
      @purplehaze2358 4 роки тому +1

      AJ Pickett Thank you.

    • @Sgt-Wolf
      @Sgt-Wolf 4 роки тому

      Just make sure your birthday party dosen't course a containment breach like last time would ya.

  • @Thorn99855
    @Thorn99855 3 місяці тому +3

    Wow AJ. You are an incredible treasure trove of material for us to access. It's like having a library of books in UA-cam form with a narrator.

  • @brettonalwood4173
    @brettonalwood4173 4 роки тому +4

    This video was much needed for me. In my campaign, one of my players interrupted a ritual and long story short became a young adult rust dragon. I have been looking for ways to treat the player and reward them as the party levels. This was some good stuff. I actually just bought the dragon magic book a few weeks ago and it should arrive at my place any day now. I already have the Draconomican as it was a gift from one of my previous DM's.

  • @Greenscyth22
    @Greenscyth22 4 роки тому +5

    As if Dragons doing what they naturally do isn't terrifying enough, Draconic feats make them sooo much worse to face. I had forgotten about the breath weapon feats/spells like animate breath weapon. Rather than having a breath weapon becoming an amorphous shape, the Dragon could shape it to resemble a drake, or half-dragon composed of whatever they breathe.A Red Dragon exhaling a gout of flame that morphs into the shape of a Wyrven dripping cinders from it's mouth is pretty intimidating, especially if that same Dragon is now free to engage other opponents during the fight.

  • @vaultscribe4501
    @vaultscribe4501 4 роки тому +7

    How in the worlds could any player expect to face an ancient or adult dragon.... I mean they are a dragon and have had hundreds of years of literally being able to make (not learn) their own spells!!!!!!

  • @anothisflame8266
    @anothisflame8266 4 роки тому +9

    First off: Awesome video, Dragon Magic was one of my favorite books when it was published and seeing you adapt it to 5e is very helpful.
    Secondly, the problem, Aj, with your viewpoint on the 5e vrs 3.5 dichotomy is that 5e doesn't present ANY support for "playing what you want" out of the box. I agree 3.5 and PF tend to lock players down a tree that doesnt exactly fit the character idea you want, but at least being a half-dragon is even an option in the first place, or even playing as a Dragon all together. 5e does let players do whatever they want but no matter what it will never mechanically mean anything unless the DM is willing to homebrew up something. I can't play as a fighter half-dragon capable of flight without first asking for my DM to allow some kind of homebrew feat for draconic flight for my "Dragonborn" I've refluffed as a half-dragon. And if I want any more draconic powers I have to go into sorcerer, not what my character idea is about.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому

      I don't really see cooperative campaign customization and character-building between players and DM's as a fault of 5E... it's a feature.

    • @darrylviljoen6227
      @darrylviljoen6227 4 роки тому +2

      That and all the spells the nerfed to oblivion. Explosive runes, telekinesis, shatter and grease (I think)
      Reading the 5e spell section makes me want to cry.

    • @anothisflame8266
      @anothisflame8266 4 роки тому +6

      @@AJPickett I would agree, if only more DMs thought that way. Unfortunately that is most often not the case in my experience.

    • @moonwitch616
      @moonwitch616 4 роки тому

      I couldn't agree with you more. It's like 5e encourages DMs to think of EVERYTHING being overpowered. I have had 2 different DMs tell me that telepathy and being able to talk to anyone despite not sharing a language is overpowered. My current DM thinks that flying as a racial feature is overpowered. I don't know what to do. I feel like I have to just play something I don't want to play as much or just not play 5e at all... Everywhere I turn, something is overpowered. The Mystic needed some changes here and there but it wasn't as bad as everyone claimed and now we won't ever get the Mystic as a class. Guess I'll be a Bard and pretend I'm charming someone with my mind instead of my musical instrument... Riveting.

    • @zacharygadzinski3147
      @zacharygadzinski3147 4 роки тому

      I think 5e is supposed to encourage homebrew. In other words, DMs can get a taste for game design just by homebrewing a campaign. That's also the reason I would like to play D&D someday. The game design aspect is highly flexible.

  • @aaronapley258
    @aaronapley258 4 роки тому +5

    Something I noticed is that the Sunscorch and Frostblood have swapped their dragon in their art

  • @theHedgex1
    @theHedgex1 4 роки тому +4

    create servant. the dragon slams his or her tail into someones home and un-life someones family. the dragon threatens the last remaining family into serving the dragon. it can be casted at least 3 times a day.

  • @That80sGuy1972
    @That80sGuy1972 4 роки тому +6

    In my campaigns, an epic level Mana Technique is "Draconic Spellcasting" which is actually epic to learn. Only Dragons know how do do it as beings that don't have it as Outer-Planar beings.

  • @cornuschristi1814
    @cornuschristi1814 4 роки тому +11

    Dragons are my favorite type of creature in mythology and fantasy. I've loved them ever since I was a little kid. It's a bit off-topic, but I'm working on a mono-red dragon tribal deck for the commander format of magic: the gathering, headed up by Lathliss, Dragon Queen. Back to the topic at hand of dragons in D&D though, have you made a video about Athasian dragons? If not, I would love to see something like that.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +3

      Well... are they actually dragons though? I'll have to do some research

    • @cornuschristi1814
      @cornuschristi1814 4 роки тому

      @@AJPickett They're certainly Draconic in shape, and intimately tied to the powers of both magic and psionics on Athas, but not, in any way, biologically related to the dragons of other campaign settings. They are called dragons, though, so I'd say that's a point in their favor.

  • @OmusKnowsAll
    @OmusKnowsAll 4 роки тому +4

    Ah yeah, dragon magic; the coolest magic.
    Thank you AJ.

  • @destonlee2838
    @destonlee2838 2 роки тому +7

    AJ thank you! Your generosity with your time, research and skills is greatly appreciated. I'm casting unexpected joy on you today. If it takes, at least once today you will Be delighted and benefited by a surprise and experience a tickle to burst of laughter. Best to you, mate!

  • @sirwilliam4128
    @sirwilliam4128 4 роки тому +4

    This one of the most awesome videos I have ever watched ‼️ Well done, Sir, @Aj Pickett ‼️ Well done 👍🏼

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks William!

    • @sirwilliam4128
      @sirwilliam4128 4 роки тому +2

      AJ Pickett most welcome 😊 and thank you for the video. 🙏🏼

  • @themanwiththeslantyredeyes8341
    @themanwiththeslantyredeyes8341 4 роки тому +3

    I have been waiting for this video for soooooo long, literal years

    • @That80sGuy1972
      @That80sGuy1972 4 роки тому

      So have I. I love the AJ Picket sage things.

  • @Im-Not-a-Dog
    @Im-Not-a-Dog 4 роки тому +5

    Path of Frost is how you turn a Dragon into Iceman.

  • @BadwickProductions
    @BadwickProductions 4 роки тому +4

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who watches AJs videos at breakfast :)

  • @muninrob
    @muninrob 4 роки тому +9

    I always reduced kill XP, and increased XP for "inventive" ways to overcome a foe - (Kill XP + RP Bonus)*(effectiveness of defeat * WTF factor). Effectiveness of defeat covering how likely the foe is to be a problem again, while the WTF factor is literally how many times I thought "WTF?" while saying "I'll allow it - Roll for X"
    The bandits reformed & working the abandoned farm the PC's cleared? Well, they aren't bandits any more, so they are defeated. Party's priest of Pelor & Paladin convincing 1. The party, 2. The Militia, 3. the magistrate, and 4. The bandits, that setting the bandits up with a farm and them going strait in return for pardons, over a 3 session side-track from a random encounter - yea, RP bonus. After those spells, speeches & rolls, the bandits are farmers now, so it's a complete, near permanent defeat. The fact that a party of borderline murder hobos did this instead of killing the bandits or turning them over to the magistrate, putting 3 sessions into overcoming obstacles to their crazy idea - WTF, WTF, WTF WTF? "I allowed it" Instead of a paltry couple hundred XP, the party wound up going half way from lvl 6 to 7.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +3

      That's a great fix, fully addresses the issue 🧙🏼‍♂️

  • @Sanguivore
    @Sanguivore 3 роки тому +5

    As someone who’s been DMing using 3.5 since 2005, I gotta agree with you about 5E-and that’s precisely why I eagerly await the day all my players are on-board about transitioning to it, lol.

  • @jeroenvanwees3250
    @jeroenvanwees3250 4 роки тому +4

    If Friendship is Magic, then that means Dragon Magic is Dragon Friendship :)
    Also vey helpfull, awesome and interessting as always. My players are gonna face Arauthator from Rise of Tiamat soon, and i'm hoping to make it a cool encouter. Dragon Magic should do the trick.

  • @Krishnath.Dragon
    @Krishnath.Dragon 2 роки тому +14

    As a player that prefers 3.5/pathfinder, my only issue with 5E is not related to feats at all. It has to do with how saves, attack, and armor class is handled, because I feel it is a step backwards instead of forwards. And it is a personal preference, and I would not "shit" on someone to prefer the 5E system at all, after all, it is a personal preference, and it would be shitty to force my opinion on others.
    4E however... It is pretty much terrible, but even that had a few good ideas, not many, but a few (like expanding the energy types to a full ten by adding poison energy and psychic energy, as well as renaming a few to have more realistic names for a fantasy world: Electricity > Lightning, Negative Energy > Necrotic, Positive Energy > Radiant, and Sonic > Thunder. Which was a clear improvement from earlier edition. Unfortunately the edition was mired by the head developer actively trying to change the game into a miniature's game rather than an actual RPG, and it was very noticeable. Not to mention things like destroying the great wheel cosmology, wiping out Maztika in the Faerûn, etc. That said, the edition did save the Dragonborn race. So, eh. *shrugs*
    But basically, if someone prefers a specific edition, they should be allowed to enjoy said edition, and anyone who attacks them for it are terrible people. D&D is supposed to be inclusive dammit, and gatekeeping helps nobody.

    • @UberGringo
      @UberGringo Рік тому

      I've been away from the game since 2E. My kids wanted to start playing so I'm having to immerse myself in all the lore I can get my hands on.
      Seems like they've nerfed Rogues. What happened to their abilities? Move silently, hide in shadows and such I haven't seen anywhere.

    • @Krishnath.Dragon
      @Krishnath.Dragon Рік тому +1

      @@UberGringo In third edition, those abilities became skill based instead of class based. Same with many class abilities. But the classes where given many and better class abilities to compensate. Rogues for example gained the ability to literally negate any effect that requires a save for a reduced effect, allowing them to for example completely dodge dragon breath.

    • @UberGringo
      @UberGringo Рік тому

      @@Krishnath.Dragon hey, thanks for the explanation! I was shocked D&D went through two and a half editions (.5... really?).

    • @Krishnath.Dragon
      @Krishnath.Dragon Рік тому

      @@UberGringo Well, four really, really, really sucked. The person who was the head designer of fourth edition tried to make it into a miniatures battle game instead of an RPG. 5E is much better, but still not as good (or popular) as third was.

    • @UberGringo
      @UberGringo Рік тому +1

      @@Krishnath.Dragon Buddy I gamed with 30 years ago is trying to convince WoTC to ret-con 4th edition. Greenwood is down, but the folks at Hasbro are reluctant.

  • @linguisticallyoversight8685
    @linguisticallyoversight8685 4 роки тому +5

    In the Dragonomicon it has Dragon specific magical items Dragon specific spells like anime breath and Dragons specific feats combine that with the dragon Magic Book and the races of dragons and you will have everything you could possibly want you might want to supplement that with Unearthed Arcana

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 4 роки тому +5

    Okay, final refined concept for my “Soulspewer” dragon...which isn’t actually a dragon at all, just a drake on a similar level of intelligence to primitive humans:
    A large, sleek, vaguely serpentine drake with a back arched like a threatened cat. Its capable of changing its color, similarly to a chameleon, but at rest its rigid yet smooth and tightly interlocking scales turn almost vantablack in color. It’s limbs are long and relatively thin, terminating in two digits with eagle-like talons, with it’s wings being similarly long, thin, and only possessing two fingers that the membrane connects with, with most males often having rips and tears in their wings from mating disputes. Their tails are prehensile and extremely flexible, acting both as a means of locomotion and a powerful whip. Their necks are relatively short, terminating in a head likened to a mix of snapping turtle, chameleon, and horned thunderbeast (IE, ceratopsian), with oddly mammalian eyes that glow in the dark like the eyes of lions and hyenas.
    It’s primary means of attack is it’s breath weapon, a long cone of the spirits of those it’s killed that inflict a feeling only comparable to one’s blood turning to ice and drag any poor living thing that gets hit by it to the maw of the beast, snapping close as soon as the prey is in it’s jaws, often managing to cleave through armor and splitting its prey in half. They start hunting at a very early age, being extremely aggressive and often attacking animals many times larger than them to obtain enough souls for their devastating breath weapon. This aggression tends to mellow with their age, with adults instead preferring to hunt prey substantially lower in terms of size.
    They can cling to walls and climb trees extremely effectively, and the speed at which they fly is surprisingly extremely fast, being able to outpace most greater dragons in flight.
    Male soulspewers have crests of black feathers that bloom into a light purple during mating season, and females are substantially smaller than their male counterparts.
    They have a form of rudimentary language comparable to that of dolphins in the real world, being made up of clicks, with some dracologists even suggesting certain orientations of these vocalizations to be akin to names.

    • @andresmarrero8666
      @andresmarrero8666 4 роки тому

      Is it possible that they could live peacefully with humans? We aren't exactly the biggest prey out there.

    • @purplehaze2358
      @purplehaze2358 4 роки тому

      Andres Marrero They actually prefer humanoid prey due to both the ease at which most can be killed and being just the right size to fit entirely in their mouth. However, as a semi-intelligent species, it is possible to make peace with one by offering it food. They understand the basic concept of “If your food provides more food alive than dead, than its worth keeping it alive.”

  • @AfroChef
    @AfroChef 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you not just for the video but the perfect Elrond quote hahaha excellent

  • @nandodando9695
    @nandodando9695 4 роки тому +3

    23:00 Shield of the winged Crusade

  • @flibbernodgets7018
    @flibbernodgets7018 4 роки тому +2

    One of the two issues of Dragon magazine I owned was about dragon magic and items made out of their scales (as mentioned around 25:07) The other one was about how to run a game in Westeros, which is how I learned about aSoIaF.

  • @fort809
    @fort809 4 роки тому +31

    This reminds me of Arch Warhammer, but with D&D instead. Keep up the video man, they’re super interesting and really really well done

    • @DCdabest
      @DCdabest 4 роки тому +11

      Yeesh. What a cursed name to invoke here.

    • @codyfoster148
      @codyfoster148 3 роки тому +4

      Love Arch love aj they both do good work

    • @ramadansteve1715
      @ramadansteve1715 3 роки тому +4

      Daily reminder that Arch is a piece of shit

    • @claytondawes2825
      @claytondawes2825 3 роки тому

      @@ramadansteve1715 what did he do

    • @ramadansteve1715
      @ramadansteve1715 3 роки тому +1

      @@claytondawes2825 Gives platforms to literal, self admitted Nazis
      Has frequently made racist comments, such as calling characters "house n***a"
      Got caught defending pedophilia in his discord
      Unironically believes the Imperium of Man is a good government

  • @umage1
    @umage1 4 роки тому +5

    In the complete book of eldritch might by Monte Cook, there is a section of dragon magic as well as an interesting location.

  • @coreyeaston6823
    @coreyeaston6823 4 роки тому +5

    Watched this one with my wife. Which lead to a couple more, which lead to companion pets. Now she wants either a Blink Dog or one of those eleven dogs as a companion for her human barbarian. DAM IT, this was supposed to be educational!

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +1

      Oh she knows exactly what she's doing 😂

    • @gabrieladerre2862
      @gabrieladerre2862 4 роки тому

      Give her the Blink Dog. And then suprise everyone by making it rabid and treacherous! Preferably at the worst possible time! Working the whole "be careful what you wish for," cliché in to the game, could be a lot of fun. Or it could end with you in the doghouse, yourself! Live dangerously! 😁

  • @sagesheahan6732
    @sagesheahan6732 4 роки тому +4

    *sips coffee* anyone else notice the white and blue dragons are switched in that one line up image? Above that frostblood orc be NOT a white dragon, thats a blue. The white is above the sunscorch hobgoblin. Pretty sure AJ isnt to blame either, think thats just the art work.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +2

      That's how they appear in the actual sourcebook 🧙🏼‍♂️

  • @zmishiymishi5349
    @zmishiymishi5349 2 роки тому +6

    Unbeliveable amount of lore

  • @taurvanath
    @taurvanath 4 роки тому +3

    Aye another Spicy morning vid AJ. I love when you talk about dragons. Have you done a video on the Dragon Giant war?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +1

      Not yet.

    • @joshuazane3210
      @joshuazane3210 4 роки тому

      He did discuss it somewhat in his "History of the Giants" video. ua-cam.com/video/Ff68sz65yTo/v-deo.html

    • @taurvanath
      @taurvanath 4 роки тому

      @@AJPickett When you do (because I'm sure you plan on it) make it sound as epic as it was. Give us the stats of a Red Dragon fighting 2 Storm Giants. Spells being cast. Massive dice being thrown.

  • @scottmcley5111
    @scottmcley5111 4 роки тому +7

    I ALWAYS get asked by one of my players to play a dragon. Unfortunately it stems from a desire to make the most powerful character possible as he doesnt roleplay it as a dragon, and has been scolded in the past for powergaming and disrupting the balance of the party. So when someone wants to play a dragon my spidey sense goes off. I hope this isnt the case with all dragon players.

    • @draxthemsklonst
      @draxthemsklonst 4 роки тому +4

      Tell them that happens if they do things "exactly right" and they have to be level 20, then go on with your original campaign from level 1 onward...muhahaha
      Edit: don't lie though, make it where they can do that at higher level, somehow...

    • @zacharygadzinski3147
      @zacharygadzinski3147 4 роки тому +4

      Dragonborn and draconic sorcerers come to mind. Not to mention true polymorph and wish spells.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +4

      First, they have to play as a lawful good cleric of The broken god with vows of poverty and chastity for a whole campaign. *Test your might*

    • @joshuazane3210
      @joshuazane3210 4 роки тому

      If you allowed all of the players to do it, you could balance it out by constructing a campaign around epic/cosmic tier threats. Even a party of ancient dragons would be hard pressed against a threat like Atropus, a cabal of Baernaloths, or (heavens forbid) Tharizdune awakening.

    • @joshuazane3210
      @joshuazane3210 4 роки тому +2

      I would highly recommend checking out the Epic Level Handbook and the Elder Evils sourcebook. There are a lot of things *much* bigger, badder, and more terrifying than dragons.

  • @kevinobill4818
    @kevinobill4818 4 роки тому +2

    This is like some sort of symbiotic relationship between humanoids and Dragons ? I think it sounds cool.

  • @thelittleheathenfromSweden
    @thelittleheathenfromSweden 2 роки тому +6

    Arn't the Sunscorch hobgoblin standing infront of a white dragon and the Frostblood orc infront of a blue? think they might have mixed up the dragons on the artwork at 2:01😄

  • @vileleche6082
    @vileleche6082 4 роки тому +2

    Yeeeeeeeeeeesssss High Loremaster Pickett!!

  • @ThengelB
    @ThengelB 2 місяці тому +2

    This brings memories. 20 years ago my DM introduced me to homebrewed dragon magic... Since i was a STEAM dragon anyway at that point! :D

  • @johngleeman8347
    @johngleeman8347 4 роки тому +4

    25:05 That is one swol dragon. XD

  • @lysander9957
    @lysander9957 4 роки тому +2

    Who watches videos at 4 am??
    Me: Oh boy 4 am!

  • @LurkerDaBerzerker
    @LurkerDaBerzerker 4 роки тому +3

    *Relevant and Supportive Comment*
    Now, if only I had the catnap spell...could do a lot with an extra 4 hours a day.

  • @cthulawha
    @cthulawha 2 роки тому +6

    I have enjoyed being a murder hobo since 1977 though lol and I have mastered the art of running murder hobo centric campaigns over the years, honed and refined the technique of endless waves of targets for the party anytime one the players decides to have a role playing conversation with an NPC and return their attention to dice rolls and mathematics and oh my God I need a heal right now, where it belongs #murderhoboforlyfe

  • @joshuazane3210
    @joshuazane3210 4 роки тому +5

    While I prefer modern game mechanics, I absolutely love the 3.5e sourcebooks for the lore.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +5

      2nd & 3rd edition had amazing lore!

    • @That80sGuy1972
      @That80sGuy1972 4 роки тому +3

      @@AJPickett As a 2nd Ed guy, I concur.

  • @carlborneke8641
    @carlborneke8641 4 роки тому +4

    Could you do a video about Psionics one day?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому

      3.5 edition? 4th? Or as an extension of the 5th edition monk?

    • @joshuazane3210
      @joshuazane3210 4 роки тому

      Uh... Yes? Honestly, I know too little about psionics in D&D to even ask intelligent questions. Even a general primer on the subject would be educational.

  • @flibbernodgets7018
    @flibbernodgets7018 4 роки тому +4

    5:27 combat expertise. Has anyone ever actually used the benefit of this feat?

  • @moonringXD
    @moonringXD 4 роки тому +17

    Can someone become a dragon with enough magical power? And would other dragons accept them into there society? Oh and do dragons actively try to spread draconic blood?
    Ps also great video 👍

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +18

      Well, on Athas, there is a path to becoming a draconic sort of spellcaster, plus if there is some taint of draconic heritage it can be developed. From what I have seen, dragons tend to get around even, more than Captain Kirk.

    • @drunkbillygoat
      @drunkbillygoat 4 роки тому +7

      @@AJPickett I think it was a forgotten realms book. It had a whole bunch of short stories. During a war with magic eating...critters a wizard was gifted a dagger by a god with 4 arms. The dagger allowed the wizard to polymorph into whatever he wanted. The spell was so powerful that when he poly morphed into a black dragon he actually became 100% a black dragon. I wish I could remember the book but it was at least 10 years ago I read it.

    • @JakeConrad666
      @JakeConrad666 4 роки тому +2

      True polymorph with clone can get your soul into a dragon body. As for being welcomed into society, probably not

  • @danieljacobson74
    @danieljacobson74 Рік тому +10

    How does a dragon blooded player differ from a Spell Scale?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  Рік тому +7

      Spellscale is a species.

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer 3 роки тому +5

    hmmm
    now the alternate dragon abilities thing got me thinking what would a steel dragons alt abilities be?
    or the gem dragons ones?

  • @anathema1828
    @anathema1828 Рік тому +2

    Incredibly dope Dragon spells!

  • @christopherwatts428
    @christopherwatts428 4 роки тому +4

    Sir!! U are awesome beyond words!! I thank u 4 all ur D&D info

  • @balthezaar100
    @balthezaar100 4 роки тому +1

    This was a really fun expansion when it came out.

  • @kid9893
    @kid9893 4 роки тому +3

    Hey AJ, you should do a video going in-depth about what you said at the begining. Would love to hear a veteran's take on the hobby and how it's progressed.

  • @TimothyWhiteowl
    @TimothyWhiteowl 4 роки тому +5

    dragons are angry lizards with magical augmentations.

  • @Sgt-Wolf
    @Sgt-Wolf 4 роки тому +1

    "Sorry not you Charazard"
    *Points to sigh*

  • @andresmarrero8666
    @andresmarrero8666 4 роки тому +3

    Well this will be useful for my character that is a polymorphed white dragon who thinks that she is human.

  • @nickh3205
    @nickh3205 3 роки тому +3

    It would be amazing if WoTC brought some of the Draconic magic back and the Dragonfire adept back as an warlock subclass and/or patron

  • @adamdicristofaro4596
    @adamdicristofaro4596 4 роки тому +2

    The next time i get asked if a player can have a dragon mount in a normal game setting im going to have them watch this .

  • @rkbmcb
    @rkbmcb 4 роки тому +5

    Came here for a refresher on a great book, stayed for AJ dragging me at 4:35.

  • @AzraelThanatos
    @AzraelThanatos 4 роки тому +4

    With Dragon Magic, it reminded me of how much I want to rework and combine the Dragon Shaman and Marshal for a 5e aura based class, I'd had a lot of fun with the Marshal in 3.5, and it was hilariously broken if you could get one as a cohort.
    Dragons had so many fun options that would make dragon fights even more unpredictable for players, hell adding a Meta-Breath feat to a dragon was often devastating because it could come out of nowhere.

  • @addzoio
    @addzoio 4 роки тому +1

    Just in time for my lunch break

  • @groudonmario
    @groudonmario 4 роки тому +8

    I would be broke if WotC sold updated books

  • @anthonyalexander8886
    @anthonyalexander8886 3 роки тому +1

    This show keeps inspirin me to change my desktop wallpaper.

  • @Tedwardy
    @Tedwardy 4 роки тому +3

    “I was there Gandalf 3000 years ago.” 😂😂😂

  • @himanshuwilhelm5534
    @himanshuwilhelm5534 4 роки тому +7

    2:25
    Disappointed bard noises.
    Sad lute strumming.

  • @chriscalvin5083
    @chriscalvin5083 4 роки тому +1

    Good video AJ

  • @ginocred4376
    @ginocred4376 4 роки тому +3

    Omg love love love love keep it up!!!!

  • @32Loveless50
    @32Loveless50 3 роки тому +1

    would love to get a 5e book with lore and the subraces from this video :D
    and ofc a lot of the spells and feats also :D

  • @ivory867
    @ivory867 4 роки тому +3

    Would a dragon born wizard also have access to this type of magic?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +3

      Oh it's quite nearby...
      over there in *A World of Adventure!*

    • @goolabbolshevish1t651
      @goolabbolshevish1t651 4 роки тому

      Yes, depending how strong their blood is.
      There is also a 3.5e class called the Dragon shaman that is found in the players handbook volume two that gets a number of draconic abilities.

  • @ironreed2654
    @ironreed2654 4 роки тому +7

    Oh Aj, always bragging about how Big your...collection is.

  • @ruhalajn
    @ruhalajn 3 роки тому +2

    10:13 is how brown dragons should look. That protective ear flap

  • @hazbinhotelsuperfan3383
    @hazbinhotelsuperfan3383 4 роки тому +1

    I love your videos

  • @MaximumSherman
    @MaximumSherman 4 роки тому +8

    I'm starting as a first time DM and one of my players wants to be a dragonborn so bad and i dont have to heart to tell them that DB get the short end of stick when it comes to racial abilities. Any help on some fun homebrew abilities i can give their DB fighter?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +6

      You could give them the human variant bonus feat option. But, I have to ask why you concluded the dragonborn get the short end of the stick?

    • @andragonm8932
      @andragonm8932 4 роки тому +4

      I would give them Darkvision and ramp the damaged of the breath weapon based on level and relate the number of used to the con mod or if you prefer less work instead of changing the breath weapon you can make the resistance into a immunity to more resemble the full dragons, and if you need more you can give them proficiency in intimidation for the Dragonborn’s scary apereance

  • @HowtoRPG
    @HowtoRPG Рік тому +1

    Thanks AJ.

  • @A.J.Breadman
    @A.J.Breadman 4 роки тому +9

    10 minutes of AJ reading off of a list of spells? What is this? dnd asmr?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +6

      *crinkles spell pages*

  • @TravisSelassieSimbawafedha
    @TravisSelassieSimbawafedha 4 роки тому +5

    5th edition simple rules to make characters more powerful faster ... Sounds great for people crossing over from video games ... Additionally AJ's comment on 3rd edition and 3.5 shows he hasn't played or DMed them much.

  • @kylienielsen6975
    @kylienielsen6975 4 місяці тому +2

    Sorry just writing down some band name ideas...

  • @KatsuhiroHebi
    @KatsuhiroHebi 3 роки тому +5

    so what are teh brass and bronze's favorite race? i need that to complete this list!

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  Рік тому +1

      Well, Brass dragons are fond of halflings, bronze dragons like humans and dwarves (to some extent, dwarves and dragons generally have issues)

  • @uglyweirdo1389
    @uglyweirdo1389 3 роки тому +1

    Owen has contributed so much to the hobby.

  • @tinymushroom6977
    @tinymushroom6977 3 роки тому +1

    Hoard Gullet is still one of my favorite spells.

  • @jtb6737
    @jtb6737 4 роки тому +5

    Is there a good (legal) place to go for the 3.5 books? This video had dozens of campaigns worth of content. I am running a gods are making a run on Toril. I have a cleric brining in Palor from Greyhawk. I was trying to get the dragons and their gods into as well.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +4

      The DM's Guild and DrivethruRPG have a LOT of older titles you can purchase.

    • @jtb6737
      @jtb6737 4 роки тому +1

      @@AJPickett Thanks 😊

  • @joshuahammel6508
    @joshuahammel6508 4 роки тому +4

    Can dragons be Paladins? I’ve never heard of something like it (besides dragon magic), so I’m curious.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому

      Certainly, they have god's 🧙‍♂️

  • @dboot8886
    @dboot8886 4 роки тому +4

    I miss templates personally.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 роки тому +2

      I miss minions

    • @krispalermo8133
      @krispalermo8133 2 роки тому

      @@AJPickett Just have a talk with your DM to allow 3rdE Leadership feat brought into the game or use AD&D henchmen/ followers base on PC charisma modifier.
      And if someone want to move 3e templates into their 5e game, go for it.
      I need a new monster, just take the half dragon template and stack it with the half fiend to put it on a random giant insect. Then think does it need Awaken Animal applied to it. Second phase is it a cleric or sorcerer or are we going to use Star Wars force skills. Maybe multiclassing it.

  • @Emil-Tiger02
    @Emil-Tiger02 4 роки тому +2

    Yay!

  • @Bway9125
    @Bway9125 4 роки тому +2

    Well at least insomnia has some benefits.

  • @benthomason3307
    @benthomason3307 3 роки тому +6

    so why is my dragon-blooded sorcere better at spellcasting than the full-blooded dragon she's fighting in 5e?

    • @lorekeeper685
      @lorekeeper685 3 роки тому

      thats innate spellcsting if so they have tha spells as a 0 level wizards

    • @Epsilon954
      @Epsilon954 3 роки тому +3

      Because 5e doesn't connect players to the world around it; they are two very different things. You can go through a dungeon, but you can never make one without homebrew. You can get magic items, but you couldn't make them (until recently) without homebrew. It's not the system designed for people who want to roleplay as creature apart of the world they are in, it's a system designed to play like a hack and slash RPG video game.

    • @Epsilon954
      @Epsilon954 3 роки тому

      @Ethan Anderson the base 5e dragon has no spellcasting, that's the joke

    • @krispalermo8133
      @krispalermo8133 2 роки тому

      @@Epsilon954 I started with AD&D2ndE then moved into 3.5e, all the things I use to get hammer on for bending/ breaking the rules are now common theme. I had to crunch numbers in 3.5e such as adjusting the spell Haste with +4 initiative and one extra partial action or attack, into a 6th-level arcane spell the gives +8 initiative and two extra attacks or one full action. Now 5e just hands that out as a low level feat.
      3rdE had a skill rank system where your PC took 4 ranks in a couple of Professions to show how they were raised and paid for their starting equipment.
      Example of a starting Rogue1/fighter1 CR:2 PC/npc. " village militia member."
      Profession( farmer, carpenter, miner) 4 ranks in each, stander rural homesteader working the mines during winter and maintaining their house rest of the year from halfling, human, and hill dwarf.
      Combat feats: Power Attack, Sunder, and Improved Sunder " double dice dmg to object struck." Wood cutters, lumber jacks, miners, stone masons. That just happen to function as shield breakers and spear/ pike cutters.
      A 3rd-level wizard can gain close to 3,000xp per month just using the spell True Strike everyday to sling chickens and rabbits in the yard. Rat is to rabbit and crow is to chicken, then catching 10 toads/ frog leg dinner equals to CR:1 " 300xp." Then turn those xp into two magic trap items at the end of each month. Then you have to deal with the stander everyday field barn rat and giant insects along with large to giant spiders. Everyday vermin.
      AD&D2ndE had an Xp rating for just about everything, and after five years as a teenager chasing all the small game and vermin down, a PC would be a 2nd-level fighter or wizard, and a 3rd to 4th-level rogue.
      In 3rdE, After dealing with farm vermin, a npc common will be a 7th-level Commoner at the age of 24yo with small children. Or a 7th-level sorcerer/ druid not realizing that they are casting Plant Growth which explains their profit as a farmer, skill:Profession( farm/ grains) 10 ranks.
      Then you have 3.5e Star Wars. 13yo 4th-level Jedi crafting their first light saber.
      I very much dislike 4e Star Wars " Saga " edition, where they took away a lot of the benefits to multi classing.
      2.) In regards to dragons, ..
      wrymlings, .. grade school children.
      very young, .. teenagers where they can learn wizard arcane magic.
      juveniles, ... human adults in their 20's. when red dragons leave their parents' lairs if they could behave themselves or they are kick out or run off in very young stage.
      young adult, .. the time when green dragons leave their parents lairs. But they still winter with their parents and siblings if lair size is large enough.
      a.) Had one game a wizard had two scrolls of Polymorph Other and turn two fighters into very large size green dragons to challenge a roaming male green dragon.
      Green male dragon in shocking surprise that it lost the wrestling match, " How could you beat me ?!"
      Human fighter in dragon form, " You had what, two or three dozen older and younger siblings beating your backside each month ? I had a hundred peers beating my backside each month. Don't feel bad, I just had more experience. So you want to try human form for a week and catch a beer ?"
      b.) Female dragon ambushes a party, their wizard turns himself into a green dragon to meet the challenge, the green female darling stops in her attack and laughs herself out of breath.
      Male wizard, " What is so funny ?"
      Dragon, " You make yourself into a pretty girl."
      Wizard, " I am a male bull of a green drake ! "
      Dragon, " Am I the first dragon you ever seen before ? Cause male and females really can spot the .. difference between the two of us. Cause you mimic my face looking as stern as my great great grand mother's."