The New Hurricane Engine Is Way Better Than I Realized!
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2022
- Today I give updates on the new Hurricane twin turbo 3.0L inline six cylinder engine!
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I love my Ram 5.7 but this sounds like a very good move. Straight 6s are a balanced design. EV trucks are jumping the gun, not apposed against the idea, batterie technology is just not there yet.
wall banger hannity
It will be interesting here in the Colorado Rocky Mountains high altitudes.
As Ford discovered, the turbos in our altitude work overtime and transmissions typically are required to run in lower gears which drastically lessons fuel economy and causes higher repair & maintenance costs.
What works “better for fuel economy without performance loss” with less cylinders and “twin turbos” are actually rated in low altitude environments.
In high altitude, to get best fuel economy and performance the v8 Hemi and 3.0l eco boost diesel simple can’t be replaced by an inline 6 twin turbo gas engine.
Can’t change the mathematical science of physics.
Déjà vu to President Carter area which also killed v8 and vehicle manufacturers all jumped on the gas turbo train which crashed in high altitudes.
Wait, at least 2 to 3 model years before jumping into a new engine, especially in high altitude applications. If don’t, get extended warranty!!
For now go with the v8 and 3.0l eco boost while they are still offered.
Agree with you on battery tech not just being there yet. I'll wait for Toyota to figure out the solid state battery.
Have they figured out long term carbon build up of DI turbo motors yet? I don't see sequential port only DI
The mfg are going this way because when tested on the epa test loop, not towing they generate better numbers. Real world, high altitude, and towing mpg might be worse but all they care about is epa and cafe stds
4.3L 6 hemi straight 6 from Australia from the 80s legendary
Remember the inline 6 ford 4.9 liter? That was an awesome truck engine.
Mite be the best motor Ford ever made.
9 mpg was a bitch though when mated to high rear end gears and a granny 1st tranny😂
It WAS the best motor they ever built.
Just can't replace the sounds of an American V8. Makes driving more exciting even if it isn't more powerful. Absolutely love cold starting my ram, brought a smile to me for years now! V6 sounds make me sad.
Good thing this isn’t a V6!
Inline 6 sounds much better than a v6 lol.
If they would bump it up to 3.5L or 4.0L I think they would squash the competition.
Doesn’t need it. With forced induction, you don’t need a longer stroke. Shorter stroke engines are nicer to drive.
No need with larger bore/litter, coupling electrical engines will supply the torque!
Nah, I want a 6.0L for the Pickups, the cars can get the 3.5.
Look into the 2jz that are monsters from the old Toyotas. In-line 3.0 single turbo. One of the best engines of all time imo
@mdubz101 .....yes becuse of its way overbuilt cast iron block and rotating assembly. But not that special anymore ford offers mustangs with 810hp for what 45k. Warrwnty and all go grab you a base gt and the frpp blower 810 warranted hp
Great review! I am excited about this engine and looking forward to seeing these in the wild where hype fades. I am a big fan of the inline 6 for reliability and low end torque. Hoping the Hurricane achieves everything they are designing for.
Definitely sounds like a winner..
The reliability of a inline 6 mated to the ZF 8 speed...sounds amazing..
Just going have to wait and see but it's sounds really promising 🤗🤗
Bmw has proven that it is an awesome combo, hopefully the hurricane powertrain will be decent
I'm driving a Cummins powered Ram now, but I loved my Ram 1500 Hemi with the zf8.
@Andrey some BMW's are even equipped with a ZF8 trans behind their inline 6's!
@@theantiqueactionfigurethey all are
Just because it’s an inline 6 it doesn’t mean it’s reliable.
I'm A-OK with the idea of the Hurricane in a half ton. They should have also put it in the next-gen Challenger and Charger, instead of producing a go-kart with a muscle car body.
Nothing like the sound of a V8 rolling down the highway at 80 mph in top gear
Great video! Thank you.
I bought an F-150 with a V6 ecoboost. Looked great on paper but was disappointing with on/off boost and mediocre gas mileage. Then more and more electrical equipment failures. I like my RAM 1500 eTorque Hemi much better. I am thinking it will be my forever truck.
Its the other way around, The Ram Transmission is a pile of Junk, Traded it for the V6 3.5 ,Love it
@@cessealbeach the ZF 8 speed is universally celebrated as the best automatic transmission ever.
You can electrical problems with any engine
@@cessealbeach You are the first person I have ever come across on forums complaining about a ZF 8 speed trans. Every car company from Audi to Toyota is fighting to get them in their cars. There is nothing close for dependability and drivability. You obviously don't own one.
The new 10 speeds are in my eyes , the best transmission ever built -
I drive a 2020 ram 1500 , and have zero complaints about my truck , but I’ve ridden in several 10 speed cars and trucks , and it just feels so much quicker and always seems to be in the “power band/ meat “ of the torque curve
That “some reason” why straight sixes are so reliable is the natural balance in those motors creating fewer stresses on the components as well as a much simpler overall design
Won't be very reliable with turbos and Stellantis mucking around with it.
@@wildbill23cplenty of straight 6 with turbos are reliable but I will give to you about the stellantis thing
@@Bigalinbklyn83 LOL, there isn't anything reliable about any of them, especially with the way people like to skip regular maintenance.
Leave the V8 alone government......🙄
As you point out briefly at the end of the video, the issue is not simply the maximum torque figure, but at what rpm maximum torque will be made, and what the torque curve will look like.
The best thing about this new engine will be how it causes the value of used hemis to double.
Nothing will ever increase the value of a ticking time bomb, err I mean a hemi.
@@corinhoskins2011 Except a twin turbo (overly pressurized?) engine designed in Europe by Fiat/Alpha Romeo. That'll do it.
@@kidsteach938 I see you have no idea how this engine works lol. They compensate for the increases cylinder pressure by utilizing a lower compression ratio, they also open the ring gap up to compensate for increased heat output, valve overlap is also controlled by the vvt system to assist in keeping cylinder pressures in check. The biggest downfall of a turbo charged engine is consumers who treat them like carburetor V8s with low power outputs, yes you can beat the shit out of an not maintain an old engine because it doesn't make any power anyways, modern engines produce gobs and gobs of power by increasing their thermal efficiency and providing more (literal) bang for your buck, but they do so at an unseen cost of maintenance and care, use a high quality synthetic and allow your turbos time to cool at the end of use and you have a motor that will last generations. If you treat it like crap it'll end up like crap. If you're not capable of maintaining a motor like this then yes the market of used hemis with eventual camshaft failures will be perfect for you!
@@corinhoskins2011 The hemis fail because of the spec for low viscosity oil, for emission reasons. If the new miracle engine uses powdered metal rods, hypereutetic pistons and maybe only four head bolts per cylinder, then I would keep my fingers crossed.
Yes, I understand how supercharged or turbocharged engines increase power output, especially for lower displacement engines. However, this comes at a price...just ask the owners of the 6.0 or 6.4 powerstroke diesel engine. Complicated variable vane turbo technology, dual ((sequential) turbos, heads with four valves per cylinder but only four head bolts to seal it, complicated engine controls and emission systems...so many weak points. I'm no engine newbie.
@@kidsteach938 well if you are no engine newbie you'd realize comparing early modern emission diesels with next gen gas jobbies is an apples to oranges comparison 😉
Hey Ben!
Once again,another informative detailed gem 💎 of a video!
Well done,my friend!!
After watching this video,am definitely onboard with this one ☝️ my friend!
As soon as they build a Wrangler with this engine I will be first in line for this in place of a Wrangler 392-although wouldn’t mind owning both!!
Nice video. Didn’t hear this in it so I will mention it. Straight six are great from past experiences. Longer stroke than bore size made them low rpm torque monsters. The unknown here is adding the turbos to this setup. Most of todays vehicles run at 2000 rpm at highway speeds and a little higher than that in direct drive and towing. So it’s going to be interesting to see where the power bands fall with this setup in the 1500 Rams. Throwing them into the 2500/3500 lineup is a big gamble for a first year production run. The 6.4 hemi is pretty stable here for the most part. Diesel owners are another subject that doesn’t fit.
I doubt that most of today's cars do run at 2000 rpm at highway speeds. But the variables are so many that it they not easy to define.
So they are only offering the standard output in the 1500? Or will we be able to get the high output in a 1500?
I'm hoping they bring the Hurricane to the Wrangler and Gladiator. I'd replace my EcoDiesel Gladiator with this. The Hurricane fits within the 5.7L/6.4L footprint so it should fit within the engine bays of the Wrangler/Gladiator.
MEGA DITTOS!!!!!!
I would love a new Grand Cherokee with this engine in it! I6 is a very reliable platform for sure. This engine is very exciting.
how do i buy a crate engine and will it be compatible with late model challengers
I am keeping an eye on this as I plan to buy a Ram as my next truck, I would wait for the Hurricane engine. The one thing Ram needs to do is insure the exhaust sounds powerful and throaty.
There are a lot of people who would stick with the Hemi simply due to the way it sounds.
I would like to see this hurricane running the Entry-level Charger SXT at 400 horses 🐎
This could be a game changer for Chrysler! Now they need to address their electrical issues!
Nothing compared to the Ford electrical issues. But let's not argue with facts
I agree. 2022 Ram 2500 crew 4wd diesel. Great truck with a shamefully terrible audio system that reboots almost every time I drive the truck.
Shaping up to be a potentially legendary engine. If they keep modifying it for several years before the eventual killing of gas engines, it could end up even better. Definitely excited they went with an I6 instead of a V6.
I'm looking at supercharging a chevy 292, it's already built, looking for a small displacement supercharger to put on an Offenhouser intake.
Could be good but will have to see real world MPG tests. On paper the eco boost is more efficient than the V8s but in real world jt doesn’t seem like much. Maybe a couple MPGs at best. On top of that, for best performance premium fuel is needed. The 5.7 Ram notes mid grade for optimal performance.
Everyone I know that tows with their EB, says the mpg takes a dive when they hook up a trailer.. I will be curious about these new ones if it's the same story, given it's a turbo, I think yes.
My 2.7L 4wd 4 door Ecoboost averages 23mpg. I do drive conservatively (50/50 city/hwy).
No coyote 5.0 is going to match that.
@@cs1992 that's exactly why that 2.7 is such a popular option.. but what does your MPG go to when towing near your GCVWR?
If 90% of your driving is empty, that's great, but if 90% of your driving is near the max load of the truck, the engine will basically always be running in high boost and killing your MPG.
@@treyhart6861 100% empty...I, like most F150 ownership, don't tow.
But, it's an ECO boost. It's meant to be economical if you drive it economically.
He touched on it briefly in his opinion. Chrysler has a long history with the straight 6. They better take a page from that leaning tower of power. Reliability was it's bread and butter. They KEY is not to over power the engine.
Is it a slant six
The old Slante 6 had no power
V6s don't seem to have any sort of desirable sound, but the old Jeep 4.0 had a beautiful sound with the right exhaust. This engine won't have any good exhaust note due to the turbos anyway.
Will probably sound like it’s popping corn
I'm trying to hd out for one.,In the ram 1500 just not sure if I can wait. Anyone know when they'll hit the car lots?
Do you know if you can order a 2023 Ram 1500 with the Hurrican engine?
What about the 6.4 heavy duty in the 2500 and 3500's?
Will the 1500 offer the high output Hurricane?
I'm wondering what the will put in the Power Wagon?
What are the E85 versions numbers(550)? Burns clean and races mean!
A high output hurricane in a 300 would be nice to see. I like the red interiors they’re doing on the S. i just think they would be muxh better with more than s 5.7
Selling point for me personally would be a 10 speed transmission along with the inline 6.
I want it mated to a 3 on the tree!
Why would you think that 2 extra gears would make much difference. There is a point of diminishing returns.
@@adamwebster9784
And a slanted six
I'll cry the day I can no longer find a hemi under 40k miles. I thought I could do without it, went 3 months and I was straight back at the dealer getting another one.
I'm wondering if they are going to start putting the 2.0L Turbo into the Pacifica and phase out the 3.6L Pentastar?
more curious on what the tuners are going to do with this thing. if it is meant for the challenger and stuff...i bet they are salivating at the idea of putting power to this thing
Do you know if the air intake needs will restrict you from using a snow plow?
It shouldn't, the engine is producing a vacuum so it will pull air in no matter what. There isn't really much of a ram air effect on forced induction engines, at least at the speed a snow plow truck will be moving.
Why would the H/O Hurricane and a 6.7 (gas) Cummins be on the table for HD trucks?
@The Ben Hardy Show this is also in the ram limited isn't it?
I have a 21 rebel with 5.7 etorque, I plan on towing a 36ft travel trailer every now and then, should I be considering this new engine or a diesel or just keep what I have, I figure this is a better place to ask in stead of listening to some saleman. I love my truck...
Turbo's can be sweet if done right,example...1987 Buick Grand National !!!
So the biggest thing that is harming the sound department is that it is a split header twin turbo system.
The best sound is single turbo 6 into 1, i am particular to the candlestick setup like a 2nd gen cummins manifold
How long is going to last
A 5.7 port fuel injection that cuts cylinders, compared to a turbo, intercooled, direct injection, higher grade of oil needed, additional architecture like waste gate, hoses, more drivability issues with direct injection, etc.
I understand that this is the direction because of emissions, etc.
I have a phrase, " no replacement for displacement"
The ad campaign should be interesting. "Hey, does that Thang have a Hemi?" "Uh, sorry, it doesn't"
Being a straight 6, I bet the torque is gonna be more then 500 easily. I wonder how much more mpg you could get if you put a Venomaire intake and plasma plugs and an engine tune in this engine? 🤔
I agree. The GM 2.7 I-4 is at 410 torque in the high output version.
That's what I'm saying it should be at least 600
so are they going to put that rubber band in their 3/4 ton trucks or do away with gas engines in their hd?
Could there be a hurricane in my future? Well living in Florida the chances are about 100% yes.. and being a ram fanatic the odds are 98% yes to a hurricane engine..👍
Oh no my hurricane got flooded by a hurricane…Florida life
@@BenHardyCars right!🤣
There must be a Caravan/Pacifica with a high output version
Given my state is not banning the sale of new gas cars any time soon.. it's possible here too.
Lmao!!!
I love the idea. Inline 6 is legendary, and also gives room on the sides for turbos. Sure turbos add complexity and can break, but you'll have plenty of room on the sides to work on them if they do break.
turbos are actually extremely effective, fuel efficient, more responsive, and reliable. people need to neutralize the idea that “turbos” suck.
@@Ghassan69 And boost oxygen at higher altitudes. Power when you want it (floor it). Not so much if you drive soft. I like the idea a lot. I've had a lot of engines, even a V4. Never had an inline 6 and look forward to it.
@@ZenEndurance same! i’ve tried a V4, V4 single-turbo, and a HEMI 5.7. never tried a V6 or I6. i also believe that I6 is better than a V6 when it comes to power. moreover, having 2 turbos can expand the power band so you can have all the torque you need with every rpm.
@@Ghassan69 We have an Atlas with Volkswagen's narrow angle VR6 and it's pretty interesting. Definitely pulls more like an inline 6 than a V6 and has a fun feel to it.
It’s from Stellantis/Peugeot/FIAT, it’s going to break lol
Here’s what I think (or at least hope) will happen with the new Hurricane (and some other engines):
-As Ben said, the standard output Hurricane will serve as the replacement for the 5.7 and the high output for the 6.4. This will be the case for most of the lineup; however, I think it is likely that both the standard and high output versions making their way into the Ram 1500 (non-performance versions. The TRX can keep its Hellcat or whatever replaces that). Since Cummins is making a gasoline version of their 6.7 I get the feeling we’re more likely to see that than the high output Hurricane in the Ram HD.
-Rather than going straight to electrification for the Hellcat, I would hope for a 4.0L Hurricane that puts out more horsepower and torque than the 6.2 but burns less fuel. It would also be nice for Mopar nostalgia.
-I’m personally hoping that when the 3.0L EcoDiesel gets redesigned, they change it to an I6 as opposed to a V6. If they do this and find ways to improve the tow ratings it could more effectively take on the 3.0L DuraMax in GM’s 1500s. I am hoping that with either this new I6 diesel or the Hurricanes, we could get a Ram 1500 that can tow at least 13,000 pounds to be more competitive with Ford and GM (and I mean a crew cab with 4X4 with that tow rating. A quad cab 4x2 should be even higher).
There is no replacement for a HEMI..... you are mistaken. Nothing, repeat nothing, has the effortless torque, smoothness, and economy under load like a V8. Anyone who actually uses a truck wants anything to do with a 6 cylinder, turbo or otherwise.
@@fsilverez8408 I agree 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯%
Big fan of in-line 6’s, I would like to see them offer a cast iron version as a crate engine so we could potentially boost the hell out of it like a 2jz
They've offered hurricane crate engines since at least 2023
It's a GDI-only engine. So I sure hope the intake manifold is easy to take off, cuz you're gong to need a walnut-shell blast de-carboning by 70k miles, especially if you have the version that takes regular gas.
I'm really surprised Stellantis didn't go to GDI+PDI, considering that Alfa Romeo had to do that from 2020 forwards to deal with the carbon issues on the Quadrifoglio models. Ask me how I know.
How can anyone hate an in-line they are amazing
I’m curious if this inline 6 with out the turbo will be the next base engine
Only tuned for high octane gas pos for me.
The only down fall I see for the hurricane is it is liquid cooled turbos which is going to be a nightmare if you have issues with them. And the direct injection. I will keep my hemi.
Fair
A lot of modern cars have liquid cooled turbos these days so its not something new.
Will they have issues
It's a Fiat engine made in Mexico. You won't have to worry longevity, Fiat makes some of the worst engines in the world and Mexico QC is awful.
A smaller redesigned Challenger with the HO motor would be a great combination.
I may consider trading my diesel gladiator when this is offered. Keep in mine an inline will have torque available at much lower rpm
Will be interesting to see how they hold up but the big question for me is will the high output last In a 2500-3500 tow rig and will it just suck fuel even worse.
5.7L is by far the best motor ever built IMO. Sounds amazing. 6.4L is great as well. I have an I6 6.7 diesel and it's AWESOME. Back in the day, I had the 4.0L Jeep, straight 6 as well. Loved all of these motors.
Lol so you never worked on one before or seen all the problems
@@siclt1 work on plenty, never had major issues. I guess I take better care of my rides?
@@mikekenner9218 I highly doubt you work on them, you can literally look at a 17 or 18 so 5 years old and the block is so rusted over it looks 20 to 30 years old. Try take bad mds solenoids out
Did you just say the 5.7 is the best motor ever built? 😂😂 brother, I can make a list of engines better in every possible way. The 5.7 is okay, but nowhere near the best in any regard.
@@PapiAndrey Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
I'm hoping they put that I6 in the Grand Cherokee L. Sign me up. 😀
I hope they come with a decent hybrid with the inline 6 I'd like to see 1,000km or 600 miles on the small 90 litre gas tank
My concern is the torque number on both std and HO engines being lower than desired. You can't come out and compete with the ecco boost engine and it has less torque. Torque is king with pick ups.
A great combo would be a 5 speed manual transmission in a 1500 ram
It will never happen. Unfortunately the manual transmission is dead.
Won't sell because people in the US are too lazy to drive them.
Don't forget the old inline slant six. It was a very durable engine. Inline sixes are usually easier to work on.
Being an inline 6, it may have less torque but a flatter curve with better torque down low.
im skeptical twin turbo v6s can run real hot especially for trucks with load i dont know about long term durability
? Ford has been doing it since 2012 lol. Nothing to be skeptical about. These engines are built for the power, and higher pressure. The blocks are similar to a diesel. Ford has a composite block.
I would wait and see if they have any problems with the engine
The way they get more horsepower from an engine is to increase the compression ratio and perhaps the stroke of the pistons ergo here comes the need for higher octane fuel as a gas engine will act the same as a Diesel engine in this case causing pre combustion of the fuel in the cylinders. Octane ratings in the higher rated numbers to 93 etc. is to slow the combustion to wait for the spark plug to set of the fire at the proper time in the cylinder. Diesel engines use a cetane rating to do the exact opposite as octane as a Diesel engine will fire more readily to the proper timing as the fuel is enhanced to fire closer to the optimum moment of piston placement in the cylinder. Gas engines with high compression give out a pinging noise with low octane fuel and Diesel engines put out a rattling sound with low cetane rating. Fuel economy is rarely gained by when the engine fires but the difference in power is often noticeable. With the use of turbochargers and superchargers there is alway enough oxygen to ge the optimal burn for each engine to perform at its best. Just another thing to think about.
What's the gas mileage you get with one of those engines because with my 2008 5.7 Hemi I've gotten 24 miles to the gallon before and no that wasn't going downhill I was driving at 65 mph on cruise control and when I popped it up to 70 I was still getting about 22
Ask a Ford 3.5 EcoBoost owner about fuel mileage..... If you drive it like a V8, you get worse mileage then a V8.... FACT. To add, my son is a heavy line Tech at a Ford dealership, they didn't nickname them "ECOBOOMS" for nothing.
@@fsilverez8408 I had a friend that has one it drank more fuel than my truck does
It will be about 10-15% better if you try to drive efficiently. Towing will get the economy based on the weight you pull. Still better than the less efficient old tech. My 2.7 f150 averages 20 mpg. A 5.0 will average 18.
I know the mpg numbers aren't out yet but it doesn't appear to get a substantial improvement on mileage
It will be far worse than advertised.... ask a 3.5 EcoBoost owner. They curse the day they traded for that hand grenade 3.5 twin turbo pile
Yes on a spreadsheet its great. But the 5.7 has personality and sound. And we're only getting 1-2mpg (quoted) better fuel mileage for enormously increased complexity and massively increased lag.
But they need twin turbos to get that V8 power.
Shouldn't the standard output Hurricane be compared to Ford's 2.7L Ecoboost? That's how I'll shop them. Plus they both have a NA V6 as the base engine. Also, this engine should be in the RAM now! Stellantis is already 12+ months late in introducing this engine. The Jeep Cherokee needed the standard output version at its launch. Thanks for the video and keep them coming.
Only time is a true indicator of reliability.
A straight 6 is a great engine however longevity of this engine is something I wonder about, you can still find 318 LA motors chugging along decades after it stopped being produced... it will be interesting to see.
MPG?
It will take a few years to perfect it. Wouldn’t want one in a Ram truck until few years out. I have driven Ford 3.5 twin turbo for last 6 years. Drove Chevys prior to the Fords and just had to many problems with the trucks. Swapped to the Fords and has been best engines I have ever owned in a 1/2 ton truck. Will stick with them for foreseeable future
I am testing this motor right now on the Chelsea proving grounds near motown. It likes to eat turbos and camshafts. I think the turbos are really weak. Too much to go wrong. Bring back the slant 6
Lmao don't listen to this guy. He'd lose his "job" for leaking classified information.
😆 🤣
The turbos on all these go-kart engines are weak. All these tiny ass engines are junk to begin with...they pretend to get fuel economy but when you want them to actually perform work duties in the towing/hauling field, or even accelerate fast enough to get out of their own way, they get worse fuel economy than a V8 or even a V10.
A good engine option and that it is more economical in gasoline and we hope very soon the tests in a ram 1500 I hope it will be very soon
When’s the 23 release date
The words Srellantis and reliability should never be used in the same sentence. It will be many years before I would even consider this engine.
This sounds like the ideal power plant for the Wrangler & Gladiator, too bad Jeep will likely e last to add them to their lineup-
Its in the Grand Wagoneer already as the only engine option....the Wagoneer is still optioned with the V8 though, seems ass backwards to me, the Grand Wagoneer is much larger and heavier, the V8 should be in the Grand Wagoneer and the I6 in the Wagoneer.
I wonder what engine is going to end up in the Power Wagon if they completely eliminate the 6.4…
It's funny when you talk about fuel economy, fords 3.5 is good when unloaded, but mileage drops like a rock when towing.
My gm 5.3V8 maybe doesn't have as much power but it has been very reliable and has delivered excellent economy
Will this engine be available in 2023?
if they are down on torque they should use a variable vane turbo on the base engine and an electric turbo on the H.O. Boom. done. sorted.
You can taught similar or even superior HP and torque numbers but the way the power is applied is completely different between a large V8 and a turbo charged V6. A turbo V6 will not have the low end torque of a NA V8.
The hemi has had its problems. I'm thinking of getting this engine in my ram next year.
Reliability on this will be interesting. The straight 4s and inline 6s of old always seemed to seemed to be just balanced better. The straight 4s in the Tacoma would go forever!
Do you know A) when they will start putting this engine into their vehicles? and B) Which vehicles will have this engine? sooo exciting!!
@Ragingbull340 thanks
And best of all it's an inline six so it won't sound like a Taurus station wagon like a F-150 does
It's kind of a wash. Whatever fuel economy savings were gained by switching to a smaller cylinder twin-turbo arrangement will be eaten up by the higher cost of premium fuel. Add in the extra cost of maintaining those twin turbos and there is little to offer the consumer over the less tech current offerings. Good value for dealership and repair shops, not so much value for the consumer.
Time will tell. Meanwhile, I am going for a used Hemi. Many love them and it shows on reviews over the years.
Love my 20 Ram Limited but can’t wait for the new inline TT
If it makes it past 100K miles, I’ll be surprised
I was thinking the same exact thing. You know turbos are going to go out!! 💸 Software updates and lots of trips to the dealership. I’ve got 200,000 miles on a 2018 Ram pulling a trailer since I’ve purchased it. No problems with motor or transmission. Let me put this piece of 💩 to the test.
@@GetSocialButterfly AMEN!!!
Exactly. The level of complexity is insane compared to a HEMI or LS V8. Ram will rue the day they dumped the V8 for this turd.... On the flipside, a V8 truck is going to double in value.
Going to be in the next Charger 🔌