So when Gwyn is in the library and is talking about a cat like presents on the fifth level of the library. Aidas Is also the prince of the fifth level of Hel. So it would make sense that when Gwyn went to the fourth level it was gone. Aida’s can only stay on the fifth level.
But when Nesta feels the presence of something, Gwen uses her invoking stone to cloke them and she also tell Nesta to quit looking back. She tells her that several times., and also says there are other who have felt like something followed them to their door. Amrin determines why the House of Wind has "come alive" at the Star Fall Party. Nesta appoligizes to Amrin and they discuss the house. Amrin askes Nesta "What did you want when you first came here?" Nesta replys "a friend." Amrin tells her that she has put some of her Powers into the house and says the house "Sings" in the end it gave her a lap full of romance novels. But Nesta says her power is evil. Amrin says "Is It?' Nesta says the bottom of the library is the heart of the house and she hasnt felt the evil pressence in a long time. She says she thinks it is being managed. Amrin says 'Thats the key, to know how to manage it (implying Nestas battle with her own bad feelings).
Just as Rowan tattooed Aelin with portal magic to go back to Erilea, what if Danika also tattooed Bryce with portal magic to arrive in Prythian because Danika guessed that’s where the Fae came from?
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else notice in Crescent City the witches are described as claiming their power came from "a three face goddess" and in throne of glass series the three face goddess was considered the creator of the witches bloodline. When I read that in Crescent City that was honestly my first red flag for a crossover. Sarahs definitely been sprinkling tons of hints everywhere !
Also, rereading HOSAB and coming back to this video, it says that the horn came from the witches and used for healing and stuff. Then I was rereading KOA and read a line about a crochan blowing an ancient battle horn that was passed from generation to generation of the crochans. Idk just a thought but this came to me and I almost died what of they are the same? I better see manon in cc3
also in the first crescent city book when bryce is on a video call with Jesiba she describes her as having ¨silver nails¨ similar to the throne of glass witches who have iron nails!!!
i just remembered, the witches in cc use brooms to move around (as we see hypaxia do) but in throne of glass it is said that before they started using wyvern and the whole fall of magic they used brooms. sooo maybe the ancient witches in cc are originally from the tog universe and maybe jesiba is so old that she doesn’t come from a diluted bloodline therefore she still has the iron nails just not as sharp. or maybe she is one of the first to come through the portal and that’s why the prince from hell knew her by another name, she fought in the original war against the asteri. maybe she is one character we already know from tog and later on will be the key for the main characters to figure out the ancient history. it would also explain why she has the book that aelin was first investigating in throne of glass. i read a theory here on the comments that the books that jesiba has could come from the tower of dawn’s library so maybe that’s another connection to tog
we also know that SJM started getting crossover ideas as early as QOS which is where the witches come in!!!! I personally (along with the rest of the fandom i think) don't think that Manon's story was finished at all. I hope she plays into this. @@claudiaestrellac05
another connection between tog and crescent city is that when bryce is fighting for her life in the library of parthos shes looking for a powerful book to use and the book lists a few titles that she notices. one of the titles she notices IS THE SAME BOOK AELIN ORINGALLY LEARNS ABOUT WYRD MARKS FROM IN TOG. the title is identical.
It’s not high fantasy cause it’s complex lol. It’s high fantasy cause it has fantastical elements in settings that don’t exist. Erilea, Prythian, and Lunathion don’t exist in real life.
the autumn king definitely knows more than he's saying. when he was talking to bryce in the archives before he leaves she asks him what does he want and he replies something along the lines of "the same thing you want, the truth." the prime also knows something because he told ithan the wolves forgot where they came from and who they were before, as these were stories passed down through his family. I'm really excited to see where this goes and how sjm will split this up between the next acotar and cc3.
About Hunt’s father- I think Thurr will come in some how!! Lots of references to Thurr in HOSAB to not be just be a coincidence, and Bryce says the statue of Thurr looks like Hunt. But also a part of me wonders if he’s part demon or at least has parentage from Hel, since it’s kind of hinted at that he was bred so he could sense demons
I just had a thought about this! the emails Danika was sending, one of them was “Project Thurr”. and they say Hunt was “bred” to be sensitive to the princes of hel. so somehow somewhere they were trying to make people/angels with Thurr’s powers, and that’s how Hunt was made? he doesn’t smell like any other angel Mordoc has encountered before
I think Elaine will play a big part in this somehow. She has been on the sidelines for so long and i think this is where she will shine. Fury and Amren are also related somehow and are from the same world (siblings) so I wanna see how that plays out. I don’t think the next CC book will be set in prythian the entire time either considering how much we have left to cover. The next acotar book will pick up where this left off and cover the aftermath but not be focused on it just cause acotar world has sooo many other issues of their own that they need to solve and this is making it soo much more complicated.
I think Elaine has a secret. Like I find it so suspicious, back in courts of wings and ruin, how the King of Hybern didn't realise she was behind him. Like in actuality Elain was the one who killed him and everyone seems to think it was all Nesta. Therefore, I kind of have a wild theory that Elain has a secret - like maybe she is an assassin and have been killing the people who have wronged her family without the her sisters knowing. Idk but i do think she is hiding behind a facade.
I can't wait for Bryce to find all this out, but also how did Crescent City get so modern? I'm going to be thinking about that for awhile. Also, I think mates are rare because they're all just in different dimensions and that's so funny to me.
Okay but what about the libraries also being connected to the library inside the healing towers in throne of glass? Yrene describes that library very similarly AND the spunky cats! Maybe a prince of hell seeing what’s going on in that world as well???
I honestly don’t think the characters from ACOTAR and TOG are gonna get as involved as we think they are. Especially Rhysand and Feyre. But I do believe the next CC book is gonna set up the storyline for Azriel in the next ACOTAR book.
What about page no 761 of cc2 when rigelus said that there was a land where his siblings created winged creatures who teamed up with the fae and overthrew their creators/masters... I think those are illerians!!!
I agree that Aidas was in the library in the house of wind and in Parthos. I also think he and maybe the other princes were the cats in the library in tower of dawn. I think since the princes defeated the Asteri, they’re keeping an eye on current or formerly conquered worlds. In the sense that they took it personally when the Asteri tried to invade and they’re keeping an eye out to see who will be the bridge and when and where to get their revenge.
Yes Jesiba is suuuper sus, I think she’s the one person that knows about multiple worlds. She’s always just AVAILABLE to get Bryce to where she needs to be without really getting anything in return. Jesiba is like the mysterious person puppeteering the timeline
These are brilliant! OMG love your Azriel theory… he must be Avallen. Also, I think Rhysands last name might be Daanan .. since he’s def related to Ruhn? Or Ruhns is related to Rhys in some way idk. Also YES Jesiba must be from ACOTAR bc she has the library. Agreed on the eyes 👀 thing with Amren and Fury… super Suss. Love how deep you went on this analysis… these books are amazing. I love that SJM is creating a world like the avengers and the marvel universe. Maas-verse!
I was thinking about this, because somehow Rhys is related to King Fionn - but so far no mention of his offspring? We know his queen was raped by the general and had Helena and unnamed sister, so Ruhn is related to the Queen but not the King - so they don't have any blood UNLESS the unnamed sister was King Fionn's daughter and she was pregnant when she was taken? Am I missing something? I do agree Rhun has to have a different father then this would not make him related to Bryce?? Rhun's mother or father and Rhysand's father have to be related. Cause yes Ruhn looks like Rhys so there HAS to be some kind of relation and their names equally weird - also this was the only reason I liked Ruhn the most, his similarities to Rhysand - i might be the only non Hunt fan lol
I have a theory that Helena's missing sister who "disappeared into the night" actually fled to the Night court and she had offspring from someone in Mor's line. Eventually, the power shifted from Mor's family to these cousins' line in which Rhys was born. I think Rhys is a far descendant of the previous High King. Why do I think that? Because in acosf it stuck with me that Amren said to Rhys that it's his birthright to become High King. Also, Rhys is much more powerful than other High Lords, way more, it's as if he's something else entirely. ... I bet you I'm so wrong it's not even funny
I honestly think you’re on to something. After rereading that chapter in ACOSF, I think they’re definitely hinting that Rhys will end up becoming High King OR ‘the cauldron will shift the power to someone else’ …like Az??? Spitballing now 😭
@@racheledang Can she be the person Elain hears crying inside the rocks in the prison? When Nesta picks up the Harp, she feels people being trapped in the rock. Can those people betheir descendants? Or themselves trappedin the rock for all the 15k years? .... I'M COUNTING DOWN FOR THE NEXT BOOKS....
Omg I just got to 19:07 and WHAT IF JESIBA IS ‘THE MOTHER’ from ACOTAR who Made the Cauldron. What if that’s why Nesta, who stole her ‘essence’ had silver eyes and at certain points thought she could HEAR The Mother. Her being a ‘sorceress’ would make perfect sense. That or possibly the ‘high priestess Oleana’ that’s mentioned in ACOSF chapter 55. I could also just be losing it.
Loved most of what you said (the higher crackpot theories are the ones I don’t love). All of your connections between the worlds, their libraries, stuck out to me. I think whatever research will be needed to figured out, with Bryce’s background, she’s going to have a key roll in research. Also, there’s a potential new bestie being adopted during research between Gwyn, Nesta, and Bryce, and emery. I’m really interested in Bryce and Nesta’s potential relationship, especially because Bryce has all the opinions and loudly declares them. 😂 thanks for the fun! Just finished CC 2, so now I’m going back through ACOTAR.
Loved this video so much! I’m going to reread ACOTAR next month so I can start my detective work 👀 I’m obsessed with the connecting library theories I didn’t catch that at all and now I’m fully convinced they must be connected via a thin veil. Idk how SJM is going to proceed with all of these plot lines it’s so much 😭
What if the legendary and destroyed Library of Orynth also is somehow connected with the Parthos Library and the Library at the House of Wind? I don't know it's just a thought but I thought that these predictions were spot on and thank you for helping me get through this excruciating waiting period to the release!!
I think amrin is the astaire that they think is dead. She’s the only one who could understand Bryce. And she’s super powerful. She was a winged big thing when she was released from her fey bond at the end of ACOWAR. I honestly really think this
Oh oh, I also saw somebody talking about the fact how much attention is paid to the fact that Regulus looks like a tween.... Like it's mentioned repeatedly... But didn't Feyra see a dark-haired boy in prison... But then her child has wings, and the boy didn't... Maybe she felt so creeped out because she felt something dangerous about the boy, and not her future son?
From the first moment I read Regulus description, to all the time it is repeated to detail I thought about this. It is repeated TOO much, or too intentionally. The bone carver knows stuff from the universe, if I recall correctly he was aware of like... Everything, kind of and to a limit, going on. And he showed this image to her when she was there to negotiate his freedom in exchange for him to fight... Maybe he was just showing against WHO the real fight was, in her case... given that Rhys saw Jurian. This ignoring the fact she saw or thought she saw similar features of hers and Rhys. But then again... Why did Regulus chose that appearence in the first place?
Why is nobody talking about the way Feysand and Day and Night had mental love making??? That was similar in Rhys and Ruhn tho!!! And Rhys also has those shadow powers like Ruhn and Azriel...
You have some genius theories! I believe the water world Aelin sees is actually the Crecent city world and that the mer are the local people of that world. Like how they mentioned how there are underwater highways that were nearly forgotten…
I vaguely remember someone in ACOTAR talking about a half human half fae who’s bloodline is “long gone” but I immediately thought about Bryce’s bloodline or if she is the person they were talking
my only other issue/closure i never got is fricking Eris from ACOTAR...rlly intrested in whatever he's keeping a secret from everyone...a secret that apparently Mor seems to know but didn't tell anyone...
I could be totally wrong, but I’m pretty sure the secret that they have is just that he didn’t help her, didn’t touch her when he found her beaten with the note nailed to her because he is had, she would’ve been owned by *his* father, Beron, who he knew to be extremely cruel after holding Lucien back while Beron killed his first love. I think he avoids saying it outright because he doesn’t want to invalidate everything she felt & the part he had in it that was wrong. But he essentially allowed her to be free in Rhys’s court by not helping her in his.
Pretty sure the secret is that he is gay, as Mor is. She knows it but doesn't tell Rhys and exonerate him because it would also give away her secret of being gay. I think Mor would want to live in CC where she could openly love a woman.
Just found this video in the middle of the TOG series after finishing ACOTAR series and CC series, and I am begging someone to make a wiki like GOT to compile all this lore 😂
A court of mist and fury page 431 when Mor is talking about Armen “something about starfall disturbs her, she claims” hmm maybe veils are thin on this day?
Lucien isn’t the autumn court high lord’s son. I don’t remember if Lucien’s mother is from the autumn court either but, I don’t think Bryce will recognize her father in Lucien.
Hafiza from Tower of Dawn is Jesiba. She’s always held onto “forbidden books” with her. ….. 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️ and it just so happens to help Yrene & Chaol by showing them where. Hafiza also met up with the rest of TOG characters in KOA during the war against the Valg. Who’s to say she didn’t take the walking dead from Aelin and lock it up with the rest of the books? I think Hafiza and some healers got stuck in crescent city or are hiding to protect the reading material. I think that the healers are also continuing to practice by being “med witches” in crescent city…. Coincidence?!?!
Thank you for this video! I just finished CC2 and my friend is waiting until closer to the 3rd book to read it. I’m pretty sure I have emotional damage now and the theory crafting you’ve done here is so therapeutic! Keep up the great work!
Paused to comment around the time you mention Amren=Asteri theory so idk if you mention this after, but I reckon she was a biblical angel from our universe. At one point she mentions destroying two towns (Sodom and Gomorrah perhaps?), and the whole not being able to interact with humans and being banished for feeling more human has ALWAYS hinted at her being a Christian angel to me. I do feel like something at some point made me rethink this theory, but I can't remember what that was haha.
Another far-fetched theory, based on what you say about libraries. You know how the House of Wind library has a life of its own, and the whole house interacts with Nesta… remember the library in Adarlan and how the book would appear when needed… what if all three libraries are veils ?
I’m so glad I found your channel! I’ve been re-reading and making notes to sort all this out and now you are presenting all this and it’s so cool. Thank you for also taking notes to figure this all out - I can’t wait to follow along as more books come out.
I agree with everything you have said! My question to you is... Have you read The Dark Crystal? How the Asteri consumes star light is sooooooo similar to the Skeksis in The Dark Crystal! Mass has a more complex and complete world than the world David Odell does. Mass is so freaking wild!!
I have some crazy theories and there's this one in particular that I just can't stop thinking about ,it's complicated and maybe a little possible and if it was true it's going to just🤯🤯.
@@Natulle_1998 After thinking about it a lot I don’t believe it anymore, but I thought that Bryce is queen theia re-incarnated, and maybe hunt is thur? It would’ve been so cool to read the time when the high king and queen ruled from theia’s eyes it’s obvious that the story of the high king has much more to it than what the legends say
Okay a thought just occurred to me. What if Amren is the god from Throne of Glass that sympathized with the humans? Wasn’t there a god that helped Aelin at the very end of KoA and pissed off the other gods??? Or maybe that god is Jesiba???
Another hint to the prythian connection is the Frieze art Bryce and her family browse through while at the ballet. depicting a fae male who is crafting a sword using the power of lightning titled, The Making of the Sword, = the starsword! the writing is also in the old language of the fae which is the only language connection between them. This also had me thinking about how Nesta created her dead trove. Also the lightning in the frieze might also be a connection to hunts parentage who knows
Also when in TOG she’s falling, she passes a city with glass buildings next to a bent river, and a dark male fae with wings with heavily impregnated fae female and he sees her and sends his dark magic to slow down her fall.
I think Lanthys could be one of the Asteri!!! The only way he was able to be killed was with a Made sword (like the star sword) so I wonder if Nestas Made weapons will come into play as well
Also, it was Bright-Hand who said that they know Jesiba by a different name, not Aidas. If I am not mistaken he tricked Bryce into thinking she was speaking to him.
The Walking Dead book likes to travel from world to world, and the Tower of Dawn library has special cats as well. The Asteri/Daglan are surely the same as the TOG gods that Aelin trapped. Also, did Rhysand ever see his sisters body? What if Ruhn's mom is Rhysand's sister??
There was a line in tog ( I don’t remember what book or page sorry) but when I was first reading crescent city I remember,beer it so vividly and almost threw up. It said Aelin was the queen of flame one shadow and I went crazy thinking about it ahhhh
If Bryce ends up in Hel, I want to point out a few things... 1) in TOG it's called “Hell” 2) in TOG didn't she banish gods into hell? Like would they be princes and princesses of hell? Or would they be nuisance and would side with Asteri to escape?
OK. About your House of Wind Theory… makes sense. So… What it Merrill is Jesiba? They have similar temperaments, seem to have more knowledge than they let on… or at the very least, I think they are working together.
Didn't Feyre yeet the book of breathings into the void of the Cauldron right before Rhys died in Wings and Ruin? Maybe the void was a pathway between worlds? Or time? Also, perhaps when the demons came through the portal, the portal opened up in the middle? That's where all the nasty creatures came from? Bit of a stretch.
I LOVE these crack theories. Also, I don't know how this would fit in but "Baxian" are the group of "Immortal Eight" legendary beings with supernatural powers in Chinese. It's probably a coincidence. Maas primarily borrows from western mythology. But how cool would it be if Bāxiān and Hunt turned out to be part of a similar group of Malakim with unique, powerful abilities!
Love these theories!! However, Rigelus is pronounced Ry-je-lus… This is how it’s pronounced in the Audible recordings by Elizabeth Evans, and Sarah works very closely with Elizabeth. Sarah mentions her in the acknowledgments of her more recent novels that have been recorded for Audible, so yeah!! Great video tho!!
I think that Ruhn and Bryce will be able to talk to each other in cc3 through the communication stone(forgot what it was called). When they say goodbye in the end Ruhn puts something in Bryce’s pocket. I think it is the stone which he used to talk to Day with.
I think the Autumn King is going to have the same kind of arc as Rys. As we will find out that he is actually just grey and just wants what is best for his kids in a round about way.
Ok,oh man do I have theories for this one. I still need to reread both HOEAB and HOSAB before the new one comes out but. Ok so in cc we learn that the horn’s magic comes from the witches (where Hypaxia’s lineage come from. I still don’t know how she fits into this but we’ll find out hopefully.) anyway in KOA Bronwen,a crochan and Manon’s cousin is described as blowing an ancient crochan war horn made of bone. Here’s the crazy part… both Jesiba and Aida’s are seen talking to each other at the end of HOEAB (epilogue) and both are described with ish blondish hair and blue eyes. I think… now this might be stretching it but I think Aida’s and jesiba are manorian’s kids. Manon white hair and Dorian blue eyes. I think Aidas was made a prince of Hel because maybe there was some Valg part of Dorian that transferred to him. But like wouldn’t it be cool if they both knew things about the asteri and were somehow being punished by them because of their powers or parents and their relation to Aelin (who possibly locked away the asteri when closing the gate) now where everyone and everything else fall around this I haven’t thought about but I KNOW with the whole horn thing being related to the witches we have to see some of our beloved TOG characters in this book. Also, unrelated to the theory above I think the horn could be a part of a trove. We learn about them in silver flames. Nests loves music and her magic really reacts to it along with her body so what if there is a trove of all musical instruments? A Bone drum, the horn, and maybe the harp because it might be able to bring Bryce back. Maybe idk I made the mistake of reading cc1&2 last winter and I have been a wreck waiting. Also I think Rhys is starboard and that is his ridiculous last name lol. K that all 😂
“The Under-King rose, black robes drifting on a phantom wind. “I thought the Fae bowed to Luna, but perhaps you remember the old beliefs? From a time when Urd was not a goddess but a force, winding between worlds? When she was a vat of life, a mother to all, a secret language of the universe? The Fae worshipped her then.” Idk but this quote made me feel that this could do with Amrens lineage and power. They talk about her being a wind of power, and this reads similar. Yet she interacted with humans, but Urd with the Fae. It’s far fetched but something to note, and even if it is wrong I feel this quote will come up in the third book. Your video was sooooo amazing and makes me excited for the next book!
Don't forget that they live on Midgard, the world of humans according to Norse mythology. Thurr is obviously a Thor reference. In Norse Urd is basically your fate, destiny, and the larger path for all of existence - there is no escaping Urd.
Also remember when Bryce sees Amren she says that Amren looks exactly like Fury and we never learned what Fury is!!
I think it’s just the body that Amren chose that would have any relevant relation with Fury
@@feiasef8319 Yeah I’ve come to believe that Amren just modeled her appearance after Fury’s people, whoever or whatever they are
anyone else realizing how much world building they just skimmed
Oh my god yes. It’s finally hitting me that I actually need to be focusing on it more because it’s gonna come back and bite me in the butt.
I didn't notice most of this when reading the books.
The sex scenes just felt so important at the time 😅
So when Gwyn is in the library and is talking about a cat like presents on the fifth level of the library. Aidas Is also the prince of the fifth level of Hel. So it would make sense that when Gwyn went to the fourth level it was gone. Aida’s can only stay on the fifth level.
this!!!!
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Also at the bottom of the library there is a huge pit. And the princes of Hel worship something called the pit, if I remember correctly.
But when Nesta feels the presence of something, Gwen uses her invoking stone to cloke them and she also tell Nesta to quit looking back. She tells her that several times., and also says there are other who have felt like something followed them to their door.
Amrin determines why the House of Wind has "come alive" at the Star Fall Party. Nesta appoligizes to Amrin and they discuss the house. Amrin askes Nesta "What did you want when you first came here?" Nesta replys "a friend." Amrin tells her that she has put some of her Powers into the house and says the house "Sings" in the end it gave her a lap full of romance novels. But Nesta says her power is evil. Amrin says "Is It?' Nesta says the bottom of the library is the heart of the house and she hasnt felt the evil pressence in a long time. She says she thinks it is being managed. Amrin says 'Thats the key, to know how to manage it (implying Nestas battle with her own bad feelings).
Just as Rowan tattooed Aelin with portal magic to go back to Erilea, what if Danika also tattooed Bryce with portal magic to arrive in Prythian because Danika guessed that’s where the Fae came from?
Jesiba also had “the walking dead” book in her library which is from throne of glass!
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else notice in Crescent City the witches are described as claiming their power came from "a three face goddess" and in throne of glass series the three face goddess was considered the creator of the witches bloodline. When I read that in Crescent City that was honestly my first red flag for a crossover. Sarahs definitely been sprinkling tons of hints everywhere !
Yes!!
Also, rereading HOSAB and coming back to this video, it says that the horn came from the witches and used for healing and stuff. Then I was rereading KOA and read a line about a crochan blowing an ancient battle horn that was passed from generation to generation of the crochans. Idk just a thought but this came to me and I almost died what of they are the same? I better see manon in cc3
also in the first crescent city book when bryce is on a video call with Jesiba she describes her as having ¨silver nails¨ similar to the throne of glass witches who have iron nails!!!
i just remembered, the witches in cc use brooms to move around (as we see hypaxia do) but in throne of glass it is said that before they started using wyvern and the whole fall of magic they used brooms. sooo maybe the ancient witches in cc are originally from the tog universe and maybe jesiba is so old that she doesn’t come from a diluted bloodline therefore she still has the iron nails just not as sharp. or maybe she is one of the first to come through the portal and that’s why the prince from hell knew her by another name, she fought in the original war against the asteri. maybe she is one character we already know from tog and later on will be the key for the main characters to figure out the ancient history. it would also explain why she has the book that aelin was first investigating in throne of glass. i read a theory here on the comments that the books that jesiba has could come from the tower of dawn’s library so maybe that’s another connection to tog
we also know that SJM started getting crossover ideas as early as QOS which is where the witches come in!!!! I personally (along with the rest of the fandom i think) don't think that Manon's story was finished at all. I hope she plays into this. @@claudiaestrellac05
another connection between tog and crescent city is that when bryce is fighting for her life in the library of parthos shes looking for a powerful book to use and the book lists a few titles that she notices. one of the titles she notices IS THE SAME BOOK AELIN ORINGALLY LEARNS ABOUT WYRD MARKS FROM IN TOG. the title is identical.
Love this!!!! All this and people still say SJM isn’t high fantasy smh
What lairs are saying this!!!!
It’s not high fantasy cause it’s complex lol. It’s high fantasy cause it has fantastical elements in settings that don’t exist. Erilea, Prythian, and Lunathion don’t exist in real life.
the autumn king definitely knows more than he's saying. when he was talking to bryce in the archives before he leaves she asks him what does he want and he replies something along the lines of "the same thing you want, the truth." the prime also knows something because he told ithan the wolves forgot where they came from and who they were before, as these were stories passed down through his family. I'm really excited to see where this goes and how sjm will split this up between the next acotar and cc3.
About Hunt’s father- I think Thurr will come in some how!! Lots of references to Thurr in HOSAB to not be just be a coincidence, and Bryce says the statue of Thurr looks like Hunt. But also a part of me wonders if he’s part demon or at least has parentage from Hel, since it’s kind of hinted at that he was bred so he could sense demons
I just had a thought about this! the emails Danika was sending, one of them was “Project Thurr”. and they say Hunt was “bred” to be sensitive to the princes of hel. so somehow somewhere they were trying to make people/angels with Thurr’s powers, and that’s how Hunt was made? he doesn’t smell like any other angel Mordoc has encountered before
@@moonchild977 yes!! I was thinking the same thing! BRyce mentions so many times that he akin to Thurr but do we know what thurr is?
I think Elaine will play a big part in this somehow. She has been on the sidelines for so long and i think this is where she will shine. Fury and Amren are also related somehow and are from the same world (siblings) so I wanna see how that plays out. I don’t think the next CC book will be set in prythian the entire time either considering how much we have left to cover. The next acotar book will pick up where this left off and cover the aftermath but not be focused on it just cause acotar world has sooo many other issues of their own that they need to solve and this is making it soo much more complicated.
lol yes, Elaine is always looked over. Mah girl needs to see some action!!!!👍
I think Elaine has a secret. Like I find it so suspicious, back in courts of wings and ruin,
how the King of Hybern didn't realise she was behind him. Like in actuality Elain was the one who killed him and everyone seems to think it was all Nesta. Therefore, I kind of have a wild theory that Elain has a secret - like maybe she is an assassin and have been killing the people who have wronged her family without the her sisters knowing. Idk but i do think she is hiding behind a facade.
@@valenciaannesanthara1586 Elaine's totally hiding something!
imagine SJM watching this video being proud and surprised because you figured it all out
the more you say, the more hysterical I get. I simply cannot wait for CC3
I can't wait for Bryce to find all this out, but also how did Crescent City get so modern? I'm going to be thinking about that for awhile. Also, I think mates are rare because they're all just in different dimensions and that's so funny to me.
Okay but what about the libraries also being connected to the library inside the healing towers in throne of glass? Yrene describes that library very similarly AND the spunky cats! Maybe a prince of hell seeing what’s going on in that world as well???
I honestly don’t think the characters from ACOTAR and TOG are gonna get as involved as we think they are. Especially Rhysand and Feyre. But I do believe the next CC book is gonna set up the storyline for Azriel in the next ACOTAR book.
This is so helpful! As someone who finished this book at 3AM, it helps a ton to put things and details together that I missed! Thanks ! :)
Yay!
Omgg same, I just finished HOSAB hater day at 2:30 am and literally could not sleep thinking about that ending
Also Aelin def falls through a place that sounds like Lunathion, too!
OMG
"she passed through a world where a great city had been built along the curve of a river, the buildings impossibly tall and glimmering with light"
@@emilygarner9090 oh my
@@emilygarner9090 EXACTLY!
🤨🧐😦😲🤯
You're MVP.
What about page no 761 of cc2 when rigelus said that there was a land where his siblings created winged creatures who teamed up with the fae and overthrew their creators/masters... I think those are illerians!!!
Damnnn
That was exactly what I thought when reading that bit in CC2 - def talking about the Illyrians!
I agree that Aidas was in the library in the house of wind and in Parthos. I also think he and maybe the other princes were the cats in the library in tower of dawn. I think since the princes defeated the Asteri, they’re keeping an eye on current or formerly conquered worlds. In the sense that they took it personally when the Asteri tried to invade and they’re keeping an eye out to see who will be the bridge and when and where to get their revenge.
Yes Jesiba is suuuper sus, I think she’s the one person that knows about multiple worlds. She’s always just AVAILABLE to get Bryce to where she needs to be without really getting anything in return. Jesiba is like the mysterious person puppeteering the timeline
These are brilliant! OMG love your Azriel theory… he must be Avallen. Also, I think Rhysands last name might be Daanan .. since he’s def related to Ruhn? Or Ruhns is related to Rhys in some way idk. Also YES Jesiba must be from ACOTAR bc she has the library. Agreed on the eyes 👀 thing with Amren and Fury… super Suss.
Love how deep you went on this analysis… these books are amazing. I love that SJM is creating a world like the avengers and the marvel universe. Maas-verse!
I was thinking about this, because somehow Rhys is related to King Fionn - but so far no mention of his offspring? We know his queen was raped by the general and had Helena and unnamed sister, so Ruhn is related to the Queen but not the King - so they don't have any blood UNLESS the unnamed sister was King Fionn's daughter and she was pregnant when she was taken? Am I missing something? I do agree Rhun has to have a different father then this would not make him related to Bryce?? Rhun's mother or father and Rhysand's father have to be related. Cause yes Ruhn looks like Rhys so there HAS to be some kind of relation and their names equally weird - also this was the only reason I liked Ruhn the most, his similarities to Rhysand - i might be the only non Hunt fan lol
I have a theory that Helena's missing sister who "disappeared into the night" actually fled to the Night court and she had offspring from someone in Mor's line. Eventually, the power shifted from Mor's family to these cousins' line in which Rhys was born. I think Rhys is a far descendant of the previous High King. Why do I think that? Because in acosf it stuck with me that Amren said to Rhys that it's his birthright to become High King. Also, Rhys is much more powerful than other High Lords, way more, it's as if he's something else entirely.
... I bet you I'm so wrong it's not even funny
I honestly think you’re on to something. After rereading that chapter in ACOSF, I think they’re definitely hinting that Rhys will end up becoming High King OR ‘the cauldron will shift the power to someone else’ …like Az??? Spitballing now 😭
@@racheledang Can she be the person Elain hears crying inside the rocks in the prison? When Nesta picks up the Harp, she feels people being trapped in the rock. Can those people betheir descendants? Or themselves trappedin the rock for all the 15k years? .... I'M COUNTING DOWN FOR THE NEXT BOOKS....
i need to do a board with strings and tacks like trying to solve a crime. that's how connected this shit is. great job!
Omg I just got to 19:07 and WHAT IF JESIBA IS ‘THE MOTHER’ from ACOTAR who Made the Cauldron. What if that’s why Nesta, who stole her ‘essence’ had silver eyes and at certain points thought she could HEAR The Mother. Her being a ‘sorceress’ would make perfect sense. That or possibly the ‘high priestess Oleana’ that’s mentioned in ACOSF chapter 55. I could also just be losing it.
Nice! Now instead of reading my 250 books I have on my TBR, I kinda low key want to re-read the entire ACOTAR and CC! (Juste finished TOG in december)
Hahahha same!!!!
Loved most of what you said (the higher crackpot theories are the ones I don’t love). All of your connections between the worlds, their libraries, stuck out to me. I think whatever research will be needed to figured out, with Bryce’s background, she’s going to have a key roll in research. Also, there’s a potential new bestie being adopted during research between Gwyn, Nesta, and Bryce, and emery. I’m really interested in Bryce and Nesta’s potential relationship, especially because Bryce has all the opinions and loudly declares them. 😂 thanks for the fun!
Just finished CC 2, so now I’m going back through ACOTAR.
My thought on the Book of Breathings is that it got to Midgard when Feyre threw it into the void that opened when the Cauldron broke.
not sure if somebody else mentioned , but the valg - Stygian spiders from ToC reside in the Ruhnn Mountains
Omggggg
“And then hunt knew nothing at all” pls it’s giving Dorian
This was brilliant....thanks for sharing your theories. I think your spot on.
Thank you!
Loved this video so much! I’m going to reread ACOTAR next month so I can start my detective work 👀 I’m obsessed with the connecting library theories I didn’t catch that at all and now I’m fully convinced they must be connected via a thin veil. Idk how SJM is going to proceed with all of these plot lines it’s so much 😭
What if the legendary and destroyed Library of Orynth also is somehow connected with the Parthos Library and the Library at the House of Wind? I don't know it's just a thought but I thought that these predictions were spot on and thank you for helping me get through this excruciating waiting period to the release!!
What if Meryl and Jessiba are the same person?
I think amrin is the astaire that they think is dead. She’s the only one who could understand Bryce. And she’s super powerful. She was a winged big thing when she was released from her fey bond at the end of ACOWAR. I honestly really think this
Oh oh, I also saw somebody talking about the fact how much attention is paid to the fact that Regulus looks like a tween.... Like it's mentioned repeatedly... But didn't Feyra see a dark-haired boy in prison... But then her child has wings, and the boy didn't... Maybe she felt so creeped out because she felt something dangerous about the boy, and not her future son?
Oh dang
From the first moment I read Regulus description, to all the time it is repeated to detail I thought about this. It is repeated TOO much, or too intentionally. The bone carver knows stuff from the universe, if I recall correctly he was aware of like... Everything, kind of and to a limit, going on. And he showed this image to her when she was there to negotiate his freedom in exchange for him to fight... Maybe he was just showing against WHO the real fight was, in her case... given that Rhys saw Jurian. This ignoring the fact she saw or thought she saw similar features of hers and Rhys. But then again... Why did Regulus chose that appearence in the first place?
I think Ruhn's real father was the last starborn Prince that the Autumn King killed. Although the Autumn King told Bryce he didnt kill him.
at the end of sky and breath ruhnn drops the crystal into bryce’s pocket while lydia has the other still. maybe that’s how they’ll communicate
Is the "Ordeal" that the Fae go through in the Crescent City novels like the Illyrian Right in ACOTAR?
I FORGOT ABOUT THE DAGLAN OMFG THANK YOU
This video needs more views! I feel like your theories are so accurate omg
Aw thank u
Why is nobody talking about the way Feysand and Day and Night had mental love making??? That was similar in Rhys and Ruhn tho!!! And Rhys also has those shadow powers like Ruhn and Azriel...
You have some genius theories! I believe the water world Aelin sees is actually the Crecent city world and that the mer are the local people of that world. Like how they mentioned how there are underwater highways that were nearly forgotten…
The Mer also came from a different planet to reside in Midgard, so perhaps their original world rather than seeing them in Midgard.
18:57 Rowan also has silver eyes!
I vaguely remember someone in ACOTAR talking about a half human half fae who’s bloodline is “long gone” but I immediately thought about Bryce’s bloodline or if she is the person they were talking
Hear me out what if Jesiba is the goddess the witches worship? She's some sort of witch but not really and she's old .
my only other issue/closure i never got is fricking Eris from ACOTAR...rlly intrested in whatever he's keeping a secret from everyone...a secret that apparently Mor seems to know but didn't tell anyone...
I could be totally wrong, but I’m pretty sure the secret that they have is just that he didn’t help her, didn’t touch her when he found her beaten with the note nailed to her because he is had, she would’ve been owned by *his* father, Beron, who he knew to be extremely cruel after holding Lucien back while Beron killed his first love. I think he avoids saying it outright because he doesn’t want to invalidate everything she felt & the part he had in it that was wrong. But he essentially allowed her to be free in Rhys’s court by not helping her in his.
Pretty sure the secret is that he is gay, as Mor is. She knows it but doesn't tell Rhys and exonerate him because it would also give away her secret of being gay. I think Mor would want to live in CC where she could openly love a woman.
Just found this video in the middle of the TOG series after finishing ACOTAR series and CC series, and I am begging someone to make a wiki like GOT to compile all this lore 😂
A court of mist and fury page 431 when Mor is talking about Armen “something about starfall disturbs her, she claims” hmm maybe veils are thin on this day?
Lucien isn’t the autumn court high lord’s son. I don’t remember if Lucien’s mother is from the autumn court either but, I don’t think Bryce will recognize her father in Lucien.
Lucien's father is Helion, from the day Court. Lucien Mother'sgift is fire. Is she from the Autum court? Or did she marry into it? I am not sure....
The Walking Dead ( aelin's book ) was also with the book of breathing in crescent city
Hafiza from Tower of Dawn is Jesiba.
She’s always held onto “forbidden books” with her. ….. 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️ and it just so happens to help Yrene & Chaol by showing them where.
Hafiza also met up with the rest of TOG characters in KOA during the war against the Valg.
Who’s to say she didn’t take the walking dead from Aelin and lock it up with the rest of the books?
I think Hafiza and some healers got stuck in crescent city or are hiding to protect the reading material. I think that the healers are also continuing to practice by being “med witches” in crescent city…. Coincidence?!?!
You also have the Baast Cats in the Library of the Torre Cesme, and Nesta (?) also feld the presence of a cat in the library of House of Wind.
this was so helpful in tying everything together, there is much info throughout all 3 series!!
Thank youuuu
Loved this. Soo excited to see the growth of this multiverse.
+ I love your energy!
Thank you for this video! I just finished CC2 and my friend is waiting until closer to the 3rd book to read it. I’m pretty sure I have emotional damage now and the theory crafting you’ve done here is so therapeutic! Keep up the great work!
Paused to comment around the time you mention Amren=Asteri theory so idk if you mention this after, but I reckon she was a biblical angel from our universe.
At one point she mentions destroying two towns (Sodom and Gomorrah perhaps?), and the whole not being able to interact with humans and being banished for feeling more human has ALWAYS hinted at her being a Christian angel to me. I do feel like something at some point made me rethink this theory, but I can't remember what that was haha.
OMGOMGOMG so listen like the dusk court rt? AND THE DUSK'S TRUTH
THIS VIDEO IS EVERYTHING!!! Im so glad to have found a person who thinks about this shit as deeply as me hehe
Another far-fetched theory, based on what you say about libraries. You know how the House of Wind library has a life of its own, and the whole house interacts with Nesta… remember the library in Adarlan and how the book would appear when needed… what if all three libraries are veils ?
I’m so glad I found your channel! I’ve been re-reading and making notes to sort all this out and now you are presenting all this and it’s so cool. Thank you for also taking notes to figure this all out - I can’t wait to follow along as more books come out.
I agree with everything you have said! My question to you is... Have you read The Dark Crystal? How the Asteri consumes star light is sooooooo similar to the Skeksis in The Dark Crystal! Mass has a more complex and complete world than the world David Odell does. Mass is so freaking wild!!
I have some crazy theories and there's this one in particular that I just can't stop thinking about ,it's complicated and maybe a little possible and if it was true it's going to just🤯🤯.
What is the theory?
@@Natulle_1998 After thinking about it a lot I don’t believe it anymore, but I thought that Bryce is queen theia re-incarnated, and maybe hunt is thur? It would’ve been so cool to read the time when the high king and queen ruled from theia’s eyes it’s obvious that the story of the high king has much more to it than what the legends say
Okay a thought just occurred to me. What if Amren is the god from Throne of Glass that sympathized with the humans? Wasn’t there a god that helped Aelin at the very end of KoA and pissed off the other gods??? Or maybe that god is Jesiba???
Omg thank you so much for making this!! I totally wasn’t catching all these connections!
😆😆
Another hint to the prythian connection is the Frieze art Bryce and her family browse through while at the ballet. depicting a fae male who is crafting a sword using the power of lightning titled, The Making of the Sword, = the starsword! the writing is also in the old language of the fae which is the only language connection between them. This also had me thinking about how Nesta created her dead trove. Also the lightning in the frieze might also be a connection to hunts parentage who knows
Bless you for this! I have all these pieces in my head but I could never have the wherewithal to be able to put them together.
i can feel my brain expanding to fit all this in
This video has me screaming. I’m just about to finish KoA and all I want to do now is restart ACOTAR and then restart CC. Send help
Also when in TOG she’s falling, she passes a city with glass buildings next to a bent river, and a dark male fae with wings with heavily impregnated fae female and he sees her and sends his dark magic to slow down her fall.
thank you for sharing! it really refreshed ideas and brought back tearful memories of TOG and ACOSF :)
I think Lanthys could be one of the Asteri!!! The only way he was able to be killed was with a Made sword (like the star sword) so I wonder if Nestas Made weapons will come into play as well
Schitts creek ref of The Bebe cracked me up!!!!
I already read all books, but what i read this is sooooo on point, i'm shaking
Also, it was Bright-Hand who said that they know Jesiba by a different name, not Aidas. If I am not mistaken he tricked Bryce into thinking she was speaking to him.
The Walking Dead book likes to travel from world to world, and the Tower of Dawn library has special cats as well. The Asteri/Daglan are surely the same as the TOG gods that Aelin trapped. Also, did Rhysand ever see his sisters body? What if Ruhn's mom is Rhysand's sister??
Arrobyn also has silver eyes!
Omg and the cat guardians in the healers library in ToG!!
I am so late to this party but I'm 4 minutes in and have cold chills
Also, re: the Drop and Ramiel, the Drop reminds of when Aelin spiraled down to find the bottom of her magic
There was a line in tog ( I don’t remember what book or page sorry) but when I was first reading crescent city I remember,beer it so vividly and almost threw up. It said Aelin was the queen of flame one shadow and I went crazy thinking about it ahhhh
Empire of Storms chapter 55 - i hope she makes a reappareeance on CC3
If Bryce ends up in Hel, I want to point out a few things...
1) in TOG it's called “Hell”
2) in TOG didn't she banish gods into hell? Like would they be princes and princesses of hell? Or would they be nuisance and would side with Asteri to escape?
I wonder if Ithan and the lost heir will end up being mates
OK. About your House of Wind Theory… makes sense. So… What it Merrill is Jesiba? They have similar temperaments, seem to have more knowledge than they let on… or at the very least, I think they are working together.
or maybe jesiba is lysandra... It would explain how no one knows her real name
What if Jesiba is the missing daughter……….
This was a great review of the potential connections and hints from SJM various series.
Thank you for sharing all of your insights here
Going to have to watch this more than once to really grasp it all :} Amazing.
This made me want to reread all of SJMs books hahaha
And the “leash”put on Hunt at the end is very similar to the black glass ones in TOG
Thanks for the wrap up 😅 now I’m going to read ACOTAR books just to catch up. I look forward to more of your reviews and theories.
Aw thank you
I’m like 99% sure rhys and ruhn are related … same eyes?? same kind of mindish powers ??? Etc etc
Didn't Feyre yeet the book of breathings into the void of the Cauldron right before Rhys died in Wings and Ruin? Maybe the void was a pathway between worlds? Or time?
Also, perhaps when the demons came through the portal, the portal opened up in the middle? That's where all the nasty creatures came from? Bit of a stretch.
I LOVE these crack theories. Also, I don't know how this would fit in but "Baxian" are the group of "Immortal Eight" legendary beings with supernatural powers in Chinese. It's probably a coincidence. Maas primarily borrows from western mythology. But how cool would it be if Bāxiān and Hunt turned out to be part of a similar group of Malakim with unique, powerful abilities!
OMG this is the best theories video ever!!
Love these theories!! However, Rigelus is pronounced Ry-je-lus… This is how it’s pronounced in the Audible recordings by Elizabeth Evans, and Sarah works very closely with Elizabeth. Sarah mentions her in the acknowledgments of her more recent novels that have been recorded for Audible, so yeah!! Great video tho!!
Oooooh!! I don’t listen to the audiobooks!! Thanks for the heads up :)
What if Jesiba was the “soul” of the house of wind. She sees like she would like smut books.
I think that Ruhn and Bryce will be able to talk to each other in cc3 through the communication stone(forgot what it was called). When they say goodbye in the end Ruhn puts something in Bryce’s pocket. I think it is the stone which he used to talk to Day with.
Omg every single thing everyone says in every book means something. It's all clues!!!
I think the Autumn King is going to have the same kind of arc as Rys. As we will find out that he is actually just grey and just wants what is best for his kids in a round about way.
Ok,oh man do I have theories for this one. I still need to reread both HOEAB and HOSAB before the new one comes out but. Ok so in cc we learn that the horn’s magic comes from the witches (where Hypaxia’s lineage come from. I still don’t know how she fits into this but we’ll find out hopefully.) anyway in KOA Bronwen,a crochan and Manon’s cousin is described as blowing an ancient crochan war horn made of bone. Here’s the crazy part… both Jesiba and Aida’s are seen talking to each other at the end of HOEAB (epilogue) and both are described with ish blondish hair and blue eyes. I think… now this might be stretching it but I think Aida’s and jesiba are manorian’s kids. Manon white hair and Dorian blue eyes. I think Aidas was made a prince of Hel because maybe there was some Valg part of Dorian that transferred to him. But like wouldn’t it be cool if they both knew things about the asteri and were somehow being punished by them because of their powers or parents and their relation to Aelin (who possibly locked away the asteri when closing the gate) now where everyone and everything else fall around this I haven’t thought about but I KNOW with the whole horn thing being related to the witches we have to see some of our beloved TOG characters in this book.
Also, unrelated to the theory above I think the horn could be a part of a trove. We learn about them in silver flames. Nests loves music and her magic really reacts to it along with her body so what if there is a trove of all musical instruments? A Bone drum, the horn, and maybe the harp because it might be able to bring Bryce back. Maybe idk I made the mistake of reading cc1&2 last winter and I have been a wreck waiting.
Also I think Rhys is starboard and that is his ridiculous last name lol. K that all 😂
Did not Aelin send the Gods to hell? I wonder if they are still there…
Wow!
omg amarantha's sword might be danika's sword
“The Under-King rose, black robes drifting on a phantom wind. “I thought the Fae bowed to Luna, but perhaps you remember the old beliefs? From a time when Urd was not a goddess but a force, winding between worlds? When she was a vat of life, a mother to all, a secret language of the universe? The Fae worshipped her then.”
Idk but this quote made me feel that this could do with Amrens lineage and power. They talk about her being a wind of power, and this reads similar. Yet she interacted with humans, but Urd with the Fae. It’s far fetched but something to note, and even if it is wrong I feel this quote will come up in the third book. Your video was sooooo amazing and makes me excited for the next book!
I more read that as Urd being the Mother
Don't forget that they live on Midgard, the world of humans according to Norse mythology. Thurr is obviously a Thor reference. In Norse Urd is basically your fate, destiny, and the larger path for all of existence - there is no escaping Urd.
the "vat of life" part and being worshipped by the fae sounds a lot like the Cauldron to me
My jaw dropped like 5 times