This actually SURVIVED NBC's practice of "Wiping"....which was responsible for the senseless destruction of many of the network's game show episodes, of the 60s and 70s!
+shoredude2 Yes, bur I believe it was originally filmed for CBS (and filmed at CBS Television City), which passed on it. It likely was re-shown for NBC.
According to Peter Marshall's book there was a second pilot with Sandy Barron as host. It is unknown if that pilot exists. Sandy was turned down because his accent was too "East Coast"
@KMBCGeno Yeah, after introducing the original "Squares" to a friend too young to remember the original version (he was born in 1981, the year the original ended) with episodes taped off of GSN, I showed him the pilot (after acquiring it in a trade), and one of his first comments was "I like Peter Marshall better".
Bert Parks is a darn good host. He keeps the show somewhat exciting and he does seem to enjoy himself and the people involved, but I'm going to have to agree with most people's comments in that he puts too much drama in his conducting the game. It's a serious show all right, but it doesn't need to be that serious. That's why all the celebrities have zingers (one-liners), but nonetheless, I love this pilot and I'd wished the producers have asked Bert Parks to tone it down a little.
Several celebrity panelists (Wally Cox, Abby Dalton, Rose Marie, and Cliff "Charlie Weaver" Arquette) in this pilot would go on to become regular or semi-regular panelists when "Hollywood Squares" finally became a series in 1966.
Ironically, the last run of "(The) Hollywood Squares" with Tom Bergeron returned to CBS Television City for the first time since this pilot. in Studio 33 (later Carol Burnett Studio, now Bob Barker Studio). The stage is nowhere as spacious at the NBC stage, and the squares were much smaller and cramped compared to the NBC and syndicated Century Towers/Orion versions.
Vera Miles had a very early game show appearance as a contestant on You Bet Your Life before she became a movie star. I've heard a recording of the radio broadcast of the show, but haven't seen the TV version. It was the only You Bet Your Life I've ever heard where all of the contestants missed all their questions, and Vera Miles & her partner ended up in the big jackpot question with something like 2 dollars (the other two couples went broke). They didn't answer the big jackpot question either.
I see why Bert Parks didn't get the gig. Gets bogged down in details and makes the whole thing dreadful. Peter Marshall had the perfect balance of glibness, quickness, and just enough detail and accuracy to keep the game moving along.
I counted 3 "tic tac toe" errors in this 18 minute clip... THREE! If you have an X or an O on the board, you might want to choose a square that gives a possibility of getting three in a row -- how hard is this concept? It always drove me crazy when contestants on this show couldn't grasp this... and they even did it in the pilot... and BOTH contestants made "tic tac toe" errors!
Funny you mention. In the Marshall version, almost without fail, the first celeb picked would be in a corner, whereas it would seem the center square would be be reasonable choice. The other versions seemed to start out correctly for the most part. Hard to explain here!
The only thing I can think of is "regular people" being (A) dazzled and confused by all the lights and the studio audience and the cameras, and (B) anxious to ACTUALLY SPEAK TO their favorite "star." I'm afraid that I am too pragmatic to have been selected to be a contestant on this, or probably a lot of other television game shows.
Because the only surviving Marshall Squares episodes are night-time, in those episodes the Secret Square game was played first (and second and third as well). I'm guessing the contestants would think the center square would be unlikely to carry the Secret Square (and to a degree I think that's true) so they usually searched to the corners because it's the next-best choice strategy-wise for the game and they really did put the Secret Square in one of those squares a lot.
I DO understand that "Secret Square" aspect of it... but it really does NOT explain many, many of the obvious "Tic Tac Toe" errors, since so many of them happened even AFTER the "secret square" part -- even as evidenced right here in this episode... but this one was NOT unique.
This show would never have lasted with Bert Parks like it did with Peter Marshall, and certainly would not have spawned the two updated versions with John Davidson and Tom Bergeron hosting.
@JayBBluejay - true. He did carry the Miss America shows for a great number of years. But it's just that his dramatics that he carried on the Miss America pageants just seem out of place on a show like HS.
For personal reasons, Peter hated Dan with a passion. According to the book he wrote about the show, Peter took the job just so Dan wouldn't. If Dan took Hollywood Squares, there would have been no Laugh-In.
@@parents65 The reason, as I understood it, was because Peter Marshall's partner, Tommy Noonan, was dying and when Peter asked people to visit Tommy and bid him a bond farewell, Dan Rowan wouldn't do it. Dick Martin did it but not Dan Rowan.
If I know about Hollywood Squares back in 1965 I would have started Trivia when I was 9-Years Old and go on forever till the day I died its me James jr
upper left WALLY COX voice of the old UNDERDOG cartoon the next 2 on the top row MOREY AMSTERDAM & ROSE MARIE played BUDDY AND SALLY on THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW the next 2 even i don't know then comes VERA MILES great star did a lot of old moves PSYCHO for one. then comes CHARLEY WEAVER he was on in a lot of the earlier ones he was basically a comic. he was also on HEE HAW. ABBY DALTON know the name not sure what she did. and in the center JIM BACUS played THURSTON HOWELL the 3rd ON GILLIGAN'S ISLE and was the voice of MR. MAGOO in the original cartoons. that just from memory i don't care to google them as they're all dead accept ROSE(i think [she may be dead too])
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TO bad the quality is so poor. It would be nice to go back in time and speed up full all color tv and just pre hd tv by the 1950's. If I could change things that is how I would like things to be. Thank you for finding and posting this classsic.
Bert Parks was a not a good host for this show. He was awful. Can't believe he was calling some of the men "boy". You could not do that today. No wonder he did not get the gig. Peter Marshall did a great job.
Bert Parks was a rotten host of this show. He talks more than he needs to, giving the locations of the stars and the "runs" and strategy. Geesh, it's hard to watch even though I have always liked this show, he is incredibly annoying.
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This actually SURVIVED NBC's practice of "Wiping"....which was responsible for the senseless destruction of many of the network's game show episodes, of the 60s and 70s!
I believe this was a CBS pilot. NBC purchased the show latter.
Bob Sewvello The beginning of the video says NBC.
+shoredude2 Yes, bur I believe it was originally filmed for CBS (and filmed at CBS Television City), which passed on it. It likely was re-shown for NBC.
@@shoredude2 I noticed that too.
It was also responsible for a lot of clean anuses.
Finally, it's on UA-cam. I have been waiting years to see this, so I know I'm going to enjoy this, no matter what happens.
I agrees
This is something I've been wanting to see for YEARS. I love it!
THANK YOU!
It's a shame that the "wiped" episodes couldn't have been condensed onto one tape so that they could have them all together.
The reason was by the time it hit the air, Bert Parks was replaced as host by Peter Marshall.
According to Peter Marshall's book there was a second pilot with Sandy Barron as host. It is unknown if that pilot exists. Sandy was turned down because his accent was too "East Coast"
Abby Dalton and Vera Miles are still alive (age 80 and 85) as of 6/6/2015.
Bert Parks seemed to host this show as if the contestants are playing as if their lives depended on winning the game.
megamanj2004X He was pretty much stuck in the 1950s with his way of talking.
@KMBCGeno Yeah, after introducing the original "Squares" to a friend too young to remember the original version (he was born in 1981, the year the original ended) with episodes taped off of GSN, I showed him the pilot (after acquiring it in a trade), and one of his first comments was "I like Peter Marshall better".
Bert Parks is a darn good host. He keeps the show somewhat exciting and he does seem to enjoy himself and the people involved, but I'm going to have to agree with most people's comments in that he puts too much drama in his conducting the game. It's a serious show all right, but it doesn't need to be that serious. That's why all the celebrities have zingers (one-liners), but nonetheless, I love this pilot and I'd wished the producers have asked Bert Parks to tone it down a little.
In memory of Game Show Host of the original 1966-1981 Hollywood Squares and Host of Yahtzee, Peter Marshall. 1926-2024.
Several celebrity panelists (Wally Cox, Abby Dalton, Rose Marie, and Cliff "Charlie Weaver" Arquette) in this pilot would go on to become regular or semi-regular panelists when "Hollywood Squares" finally became a series in 1966.
Ironically, the last run of "(The) Hollywood Squares" with Tom Bergeron returned to CBS Television City for the first time since this pilot. in Studio 33 (later Carol Burnett Studio, now Bob Barker Studio). The stage is nowhere as spacious at the NBC stage, and the squares were much smaller and cramped compared to the NBC and syndicated Century Towers/Orion versions.
Vera Miles had a very early game show appearance as a contestant on You Bet Your Life before she became a movie star. I've heard a recording of the radio broadcast of the show, but haven't seen the TV version. It was the only You Bet Your Life I've ever heard where all of the contestants missed all their questions, and Vera Miles & her partner ended up in the big jackpot question with something like 2 dollars (the other two couples went broke). They didn't answer the big jackpot question either.
What a terrible show that must have been!
Hooray for Gizelle McKinzie! Such a beautiful woman and a great violinist!
I see why Bert Parks didn't get the gig. Gets bogged down in details and makes the whole thing dreadful. Peter Marshall had the perfect balance of glibness, quickness, and just enough detail and accuracy to keep the game moving along.
Case in point, Morey Amsterdam's "Get on with it!" motion at 12:29.
I often could not understand and or hear if the answer was right or wrong with Peter Marshall
You are going to judge Bert Parks on the 1st episode?
@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath
It was actually only a pilot.
@newzak1972 CBS Television City taped/filmed many shows not just their own. They were and still are state of the art and favored by many.
I counted 3 "tic tac toe" errors in this 18 minute clip... THREE! If you have an X or an O on the board, you might want to choose a square that gives a possibility of getting three in a row -- how hard is this concept? It always drove me crazy when contestants on this show couldn't grasp this... and they even did it in the pilot... and BOTH contestants made "tic tac toe" errors!
Funny you mention. In the Marshall version, almost without fail, the first celeb picked would be in a corner, whereas it would seem the center square would be be reasonable choice. The other versions seemed to start out correctly for the most part. Hard to explain here!
The only thing I can think of is "regular people" being (A) dazzled and confused by all the lights and the studio audience and the cameras, and (B) anxious to ACTUALLY SPEAK TO their favorite "star." I'm afraid that I am too pragmatic to have been selected to be a contestant on this, or probably a lot of other television game shows.
I'm not claiming to be any sort of a genius, but I CAN play tic-tac-toe... LOL
Because the only surviving Marshall Squares episodes are night-time, in those episodes the Secret Square game was played first (and second and third as well). I'm guessing the contestants would think the center square would be unlikely to carry the Secret Square (and to a degree I think that's true) so they usually searched to the corners because it's the next-best choice strategy-wise for the game and they really did put the Secret Square in one of those squares a lot.
I DO understand that "Secret Square" aspect of it... but it really does NOT explain many, many of the obvious "Tic Tac Toe" errors, since so many of them happened even AFTER the "secret square" part -- even as evidenced right here in this episode... but this one was NOT unique.
Great to see this bit of history! Good thing Peter Marshall won the audition. I think Parks would have made the show difficult to watch.
This show would never have lasted with Bert Parks like it did with Peter Marshall, and certainly would not have spawned the two updated versions with John Davidson and Tom Bergeron hosting.
I didn't know the tape still existed. I've seen the kinescope of this.
Which programs host Bert Parks on yhis 1st Season of this legendary show?
witch means not paul lynde or ever ernest borgnine was the original center square pre giligans island's jim backus was
Need to restore video and audio, if possible!
I remember that original theme.
Migawd, I was still in grade school when this aired.....
@JayBBluejay - true. He did carry the Miss America shows for a great number of years. But it's just that his dramatics that he carried on the Miss America pageants just seem out of place on a show like HS.
After watching this, it's a wonder Hollywood Squares ever got picked up.
1:32
Bert Parks was no Peter Marshall or Tom Bergeron.
You mention Tom Bergeron as if he was worth watching.
"Brought to you by....." no one! 😁
Verizon!
Another choice to mc "The Hollywood Squares"was..Dan Rowan of Rowan And Martin TV Fame..but..he was dropped and Mr.Marshall got the hosting job.
For personal reasons, Peter hated Dan with a passion. According to the book he wrote about the show, Peter took the job just so Dan wouldn't. If Dan took Hollywood Squares, there would have been no Laugh-In.
@@parents65 The reason, as I understood it, was because Peter Marshall's partner, Tommy Noonan, was dying and when Peter asked people to visit Tommy and bid him a bond farewell, Dan Rowan wouldn't do it. Dick Martin did it but not Dan Rowan.
Is that Kenny Williams announcing?
Ryan Strnad Yes.
@@williamdunphy352 Hmm, doesn't sound like him.
@@ApartmentKing66 That is Kenny Williams. Kenny was the voice of all of Heatter-Quigley's game shows until 1981, except for 2.
This was originally in color. NBC liked to reuse video tapes. This is a black and white kinescope.
toi?
I was just too young to understand what was going on back then.
Have these people never played tic-tac-toe? You always get the center square if you can. Did they agree not to do that?
Mr.Howle!
Oh wow! I never knew this. Of course back in 1965, I was just toi
"Mr. X"...
If I know about Hollywood Squares back in 1965 I would have started Trivia when I was 9-Years Old and go on forever till the day I died its me James jr
Wow...
Who have the 1st episode which was aired on NBC?
DAMN!!! The film quality is horrendous!
Probably a kinescope.
@butchboy13 And you are definitely correct. X gets the square and the win.
No Paul Lynde sadly
Paul Lynde joined the show in fall 1968.
Interesting. They still had a few kinks to work out.
upper left WALLY COX voice of the old UNDERDOG cartoon the next 2 on the top row MOREY AMSTERDAM & ROSE MARIE played BUDDY AND SALLY on THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW the next 2 even i don't know then comes VERA MILES great star did a lot of old moves PSYCHO for one. then comes CHARLEY WEAVER he was on in a lot of the earlier ones he was basically a comic. he was also on HEE HAW. ABBY DALTON know the name not sure what she did. and in the center JIM BACUS played THURSTON HOWELL the 3rd ON GILLIGAN'S ISLE and was the voice of MR. MAGOO in the original cartoons. that just from memory i don't care to google them as they're all dead accept ROSE(i think [she may be dead too])
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( Cliff Arquette⭐❤😃🏆 ) was ever on 'Hee Haw ' ...as a regular or a guest ...Loved him too ...I think he and Grandpa Jones were sweet and good people 😍👍👍😌💘 .. I believe he is the grandfather of actors Patricia, Rosanna, and David Arquette .... How fabulous to have him in the family ...just guessing.. 😃😍🙂❤💞💕May He (and Grandpa Jones ) Rest In The Sweetest Peace🙏🕯🕯🙄☁☁🕊🌫🌬🌫🏖🌅🌴🌴🏵💐🌷🌻🌼🌾🌸🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹 ....Two Beautiful and Good Souls❤❤❤...I miss them both ...💔💙💔😒😕😔 🙄🙂💟👍👍✌
TO bad the quality is so poor. It would be nice to go back in time and speed up full all color tv and just pre hd tv by the 1950's. If I could change things that is how I would like things to be.
Thank you for finding and posting this classsic.
Panel: Wally Cox, Rose Marie, Morey Amsterdam, Giselle McKenzie, Jim Backus (center square), Abby Dalton, Charley Weaver, Vera Miles & Robert Q. Lewis
I was 4 when this came out.
As a kid I adored Abby Dalton.
06:49 - 06:52 As Gilbert Gottfried would say, "You fool!"
Is this on GSN?
Bert Parks was a not a good host for this show. He was awful. Can't believe he was calling some of the men "boy". You could not do that today. No wonder he did not get the gig. Peter Marshall did a great job.
Bert Parks was a rotten host of this show. He talks more than he needs to, giving the locations of the stars and the "runs" and strategy. Geesh, it's hard to watch even though I have always liked this show, he is incredibly annoying.
thank god peter marshal became the host peter marshal was an excellent host
I prefer this version far far more.
Who on,earth are these people???
these "stars" were C Listers......
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