After you bubble you jump on top and down air to do the stomp....you can do it three to 4 times and if you do enough damage you can foward or back air after the bubble pops.....best ranno combo
@@neutralflavors rivals of aether ends up being more balanced most of the time so the meta isnt heavily skewed towards a fraction of the cast, rivals of aether characters are better designed and actually have multiple layers of mechanics based on a central gimmick. Smash ult has awesome gameplay design but only for some of the characters (why is sonic still the same as his brawl variant?0. Rivals has much better controller settings, customizability, movement mechanics, and tutorials. Playing with friends online is clunky, and matchmaking is awful. Smash isnt WAY better, only exceeding rivals in size of content and iconography, but the devs of ROA dont have multiple millions of dollars...
Question! Is the design-wise direction for Rivals 2's cool with everyone who plays this? The moves (not ALL, of course) are just mash ups of smash characters (now). Ranno, for example - it's easy to say it's Greninja - charging water move, for example. But I see the exact look (like even the body shape in the air) of Shieks diagonal needle throw, her back air, and Terri's shoulder charge. Watching some other footage, like the bird dude, I see Wario's up smack (with the sound included). The arrow person is clearly Byleth moves mixed with Falco multi-hits (the neutral is a good example). I'm trying to get into playing Rivals, but the style from the first drew me in and I thought it was AWESOME. Now with this, style-wise with the shield now too, it feels too close to smash. What are other's thoughts? Are there crossplayers between smash and rivals, or is that not a typical thing? I'm trying to be both, and honestly not trying to crap on this. The moves just feel a little stolen. The distinguishing line between the two now with this sorta faded for me.
I picked it up a week ago because my friend plays. I’ve been a relatively serious melee player for a little over 7 years now. This being said I like the game and see the potential in it as a competitive player. I quickly learned the frog character that they’re playing in the video because of how close he is to sheik like you said, even beating my other friends who’ve played rivals since the beginning. I quickly realized how much it was “copied” from smash, and considering quitting because I just kept comparing it to melee. Initially I couldn’t get over how they changed some of the controls for seemingly no reason. For example zetterburn is nearly an exact copy of fox, even having a move that is similar to shine that you can wave shine out of. But instead of making it down b, they moved it to neutral b. It baffled my mind because they essentially copied everything else but maybe played it off like they didn’t because they changed the inputs of some of the moves? Long story short, I’ve learned to appreciate the game and I want to get good at it like I once did melee. It’s just a different game I have to keep telling myself, but I’m already better than most of my friends so that keeps me motivated.
To be fair, when a roster has like 90 characters, it's going to be difficult to come up with unique actions esp for normal moves. There's definitely inspiration from smash taken in a lot of aspects which the rivals devs have never denied, but fighting games in general do take a lot of moves from one another (dp, fireball are some that come to mind). What makes me personally a fan of rivals is the movement system intentionally made to be simple yet effective, and the hitfall mechanic unique to rivals. The specials of the characters see what gives them their identity, and are centered around a key element per character which I think is cool. The new special attacks like special pummel and getup attack are also great additions which separate rivals from smash a lot and make it it's own unique game, but a fimilar transition for smash players
The things you named are not really similar to the smash moves you named. Wario upair just doesn't really kill while Wrastor's certainly does. And Terry's dash attack is a committal kill move which hits outward where Ranno's is a combo move which sends up. They have a somewhat similar animation but it's a bash with the shoulder. How many fighters have shoulders? You really need to look at the complete picture of a character to determine if they are excessively referential.
No. I 'll have to play it to see if it is actually slower or just looks that way because of graphics, though. I feel like people haven't figured out the hitfalling and combo trees as well.
Very happy with how I did despite only playing the build like twice LOL. I'm super excited for this game man, so fun!
Nice john
Nice john
Getting to play vs Leff would be such an honor dude
@@heyitsmort7744leffen should be honored to play seggo
@@heyitsmort7744 leffen is an asshole, dint look up to him
1:58 Why do I love the animation for Ranno's backwards full hop? It's so simple and flashy at the same time.
oh that's actually his super jump animation-you get it when you crouch and do a fullhop, which gives ranno extra height 🐸
Rivals 2 doesn't have backward jumps :(
Could it be possible for both players to Pass in the RPS segment of stage selection?
Watching the hitfalls Seggo had vs Leffen. Easily the biggest mechanic melee players can learn to become gods in this game.
After you bubble you jump on top and down air to do the stomp....you can do it three to 4 times and if you do enough damage you can foward or back air after the bubble pops.....best ranno combo
Can’t wait to play this game forget smash lol
@@neutralflavorsif only the tourney support didn’t suck ass and the online servers suck too.
@@neutralflavors rivals of aether ends up being more balanced most of the time so the meta isnt heavily skewed towards a fraction of the cast, rivals of aether characters are better designed and actually have multiple layers of mechanics based on a central gimmick. Smash ult has awesome gameplay design but only for some of the characters (why is sonic still the same as his brawl variant?0. Rivals has much better controller settings, customizability, movement mechanics, and tutorials. Playing with friends online is clunky, and matchmaking is awful.
Smash isnt WAY better, only exceeding rivals in size of content and iconography, but the devs of ROA dont have multiple millions of dollars...
oh my god move the mouse
Modern day commentary all sounds the same, like how are people not just droning at this inflection?
Man i am gonna miss forsburn so bad
fors is most likely gonna come back in Rivals 2
i’m pretty sure he’s confirmed to be in at least at launch
@@prod_JG No
@@zongotm7999he is confirmed. The leaked build of the game had orcane and forsburn in the files.
@@TotshotAirsoft But they have already announced the 3 fire characters planned for the release of the game (Zetterburn, Clairen, Loxodont)
Question! Is the design-wise direction for Rivals 2's cool with everyone who plays this? The moves (not ALL, of course) are just mash ups of smash characters (now). Ranno, for example - it's easy to say it's Greninja - charging water move, for example. But I see the exact look (like even the body shape in the air) of Shieks diagonal needle throw, her back air, and Terri's shoulder charge.
Watching some other footage, like the bird dude, I see Wario's up smack (with the sound included). The arrow person is clearly Byleth moves mixed with Falco multi-hits (the neutral is a good example).
I'm trying to get into playing Rivals, but the style from the first drew me in and I thought it was AWESOME. Now with this, style-wise with the shield now too, it feels too close to smash.
What are other's thoughts? Are there crossplayers between smash and rivals, or is that not a typical thing? I'm trying to be both, and honestly not trying to crap on this. The moves just feel a little stolen. The distinguishing line between the two now with this sorta faded for me.
I picked it up a week ago because my friend plays. I’ve been a relatively serious melee player for a little over 7 years now. This being said I like the game and see the potential in it as a competitive player. I quickly learned the frog character that they’re playing in the video because of how close he is to sheik like you said, even beating my other friends who’ve played rivals since the beginning. I quickly realized how much it was “copied” from smash, and considering quitting because I just kept comparing it to melee. Initially I couldn’t get over how they changed some of the controls for seemingly no reason. For example zetterburn is nearly an exact copy of fox, even having a move that is similar to shine that you can wave shine out of. But instead of making it down b, they moved it to neutral b. It baffled my mind because they essentially copied everything else but maybe played it off like they didn’t because they changed the inputs of some of the moves? Long story short, I’ve learned to appreciate the game and I want to get good at it like I once did melee. It’s just a different game I have to keep telling myself, but I’m already better than most of my friends so that keeps me motivated.
To be fair, when a roster has like 90 characters, it's going to be difficult to come up with unique actions esp for normal moves. There's definitely inspiration from smash taken in a lot of aspects which the rivals devs have never denied, but fighting games in general do take a lot of moves from one another (dp, fireball are some that come to mind).
What makes me personally a fan of rivals is the movement system intentionally made to be simple yet effective, and the hitfall mechanic unique to rivals. The specials of the characters see what gives them their identity, and are centered around a key element per character which I think is cool. The new special attacks like special pummel and getup attack are also great additions which separate rivals from smash a lot and make it it's own unique game, but a fimilar transition for smash players
The things you named are not really similar to the smash moves you named.
Wario upair just doesn't really kill while Wrastor's certainly does. And Terry's dash attack is a committal kill move which hits outward where Ranno's is a combo move which sends up. They have a somewhat similar animation but it's a bash with the shoulder. How many fighters have shoulders?
You really need to look at the complete picture of a character to determine if they are excessively referential.
@@HiBoBeaux great notes, thank you for the reply!
@@eyeris4050 yeah I actually dig the look of the moves a lot more. I miss the 16 but look, but still. Thank you for the reply!
Still don't know why people are okay with Leffen but whatever
why so? (A genuine question.)
Im the only one that thinks this game looks sluggish in comparaison to melee and rivals 1?
No. I 'll have to play it to see if it is actually slower or just looks that way because of graphics, though. I feel like people haven't figured out the hitfalling and combo trees as well.
Kind of reminds me of the PM version of Ultimate.
I was just thinking the same thing
Nah not really, it's looking very clean and nicely paced
@@tacitozetticci9308 Do you mean that the slower pacing looks right or that it has the same pacing as roa1 and melee?