I don't say this casually - Andor is next-level Star Wars. The story-crafting, the character development, the attention to detail. I don't believe we've ever seen anything quite like it. And while I don't think that everything going forward in the franchise needs to be made in the same mold, this is really, really good.
@@planetofthepete It's just good sci-fi. Focusing on details, paying attention to what is written. I don't know what 'grown up' had to do with it, but youth love good cinema too.
@@lonesurvivor8828 It's because a lot of people want more mass-appeal content like the MCU style because Andor doesn't have lightsabers, Force powers, or cute creatures like Baby Yoda. So people who aren't into more "grown-up" sci-fi won't be interested in Andor. It doesn't excite them.
It feels more grounded in reality. We’re seeing a guy getting caught up fast in a situation he didn’t intend to become part of having a run in with police while at a bar, trying to move a hot item follow up with a bank robbery and then trying to lay low. No Jedi no sith just normal people in multiple alphabet agencies hunting down a dude on the run. To the poster that said it’s mature sci fi that’s spot on. This version of Star Wars feels more like the sci fi show the Expanse I hope more Star Wars shows take this direction of world building
Andor has some of the best world building I’ve seen in Star Wars. Honestly on par with the Prequels. Just love the way this show is expanding the universe. So much character depth and it’s all thanks to the writing. Really hope this show can get more viewers so they LucasFilm can get a hint that this is what the ppl actually want.
It's a testament to the quality of both Andor and your channel that I can be completely engrossed in 10+ minute videos about bureaucracies and prison systems of a fictional universe. Can't wait for more content.
The host seems to know / put a lot thought into the general subject of totalitarian societies. Its like Andor tapped a area he was a expert on. I want to grab transcripts from some of these vids as good political science info...
Fun detail for episode 7 of Andor - the last sound effect is a jail cell door slamming shut. The last two scenes are Cassian getting sentenced, and Syril stuck in the Bureau of Standards job. That final sound effect really nails home the parallel that Syril's crummy lifetime dead end government job is also a "prison".
"The Empire improves every system it touches. Judge by any metric. Safety, prosperity, trade, opportunity, peace. Compare Imperial rule to what is happening now. Look outside. Is the world more peaceful since the revolution? I see nothing but death and chaos." - The Client from The Mandalorian Season 1
When folks complain about Star Wars being “too political” I start and wonder if we are watching the same things. In our own real world penal labor is explicitly allowed by the 13th Amendment. Great video!
@@notoriousblt1038 Thus proving California film students of the 60's and 70's experienced a distinct shortage of historical context and moral clarity. Pretty sure Nixon wasn't an all-powerful tyrannical sorcerer (they don't usually get forced out of office by a loss of political support. They just execute anyone who ticks them off - with or without using lighting fingers). And Ho Chi Mihn sure as hell was no Princess Leia.
The Empire not only exploits this, it also has even worse loopholes, like considering Wookies to be completely non-sapient so their slavery would not even be considered slavery.
So the plan is basically to have a massive prison population to use as free labor. I think the room has a lot of empty space for the purpose of bigger equipment. Instead of bringing them to bigger rooms with the big equipment they use just one room and move the equipment the workers need in and out whenever.
Or storm trooper recruits who are nothing more than brainwashed prisoners. Wanna take 5 years off your 6 year sentence, join up with imps for 2 years... meanwhile when you serve you are brainwashed then WANT to sign up for MORE years!
The thing I love the most about Andor, is that it's not afraid to let important characters die, there's rarely plot armor, similar to rogue one but a bit less movie like
I've really been enjoying how Andor has taken Star Wars back to the core of what the Original Trilogy was. Lucas has stated many times that the Empire was meant to be a damning commentary on the US during the Vietnam Era. Even said Palpatine was based on Nixon. So seeing Andor continually go for the throat with commentary about the US, like with this, is great. While the US has done it for different reasons [Antebellum economy turning into our modern prison labor economy due to Southern sympathizers shafting Reconstruction], we do the same thing. Mass inarceration for profit, for slave labor, is how our economy thrives. If abolished, our economy would collapse. Andor really gets Star Wars, and what the themes and imagery of the OT really meant.
i used/use prisons in Thrawn's Revenge to increase production by 10%, getting a galaxy ready for the Yuuzhan Vong in 25 years is hard work. those pesky Rebels and their New Republic complicate things even more than the various Imperial Warlords.
That is pretty solid. Our emperor Sheev has a few questions for you next, but he seemed to be in a good mood. So you should be fine. He said something about downgrading prisoner food, and rerouting the money for a much, much, MUCH bigger DS3. Called the thing Starkiller Base. (Talk about edgy names). I think the emperor wants to transfer you out there.
@@darthverminates9708 Sure. Hundreds of thousands of prisoners die of exposure, malnutrition, beatings and bullets to the head ... "Here". I really hope you are indulging in sarcasm. Otherwise, I'd suggest reading actual historical records.
@@kenle2 i have... They back up what I said. Robert Conquest created the death camp narrative as a theory as to what happened to millions of missing people in demographic estimates. Now that we have the official records it looks like many we assumed died in the camps may have been citizens who died in other ways outside the camps... A few people have noted that when someone was sent to gulag their families were often retaliated against. Fired, kicked out of housing, their wwii era ration cards taken. This is pretty much a death sentence. Also; I have some family accounts. I had uncles who went to the gulag who I knew / met and great grandfather. 8 relatives in total. All lived through it... Ps Hundreds of thousands did die in the camps. Not the multimillions we used to think. The camps existed for slave labor not to systematically eliminate people.
Great video. The whole ‘human (& non-human) capital’ is lifted directly from Nazi Germany (like most of the Empire). Germany quickly outstripped its internal production capacity as wave after wave of able-bodied German men were sent off to the front lines, so they turned to slave labor from the conquered territories. Timeghost’s WW2 channel has some great episodes covering this in their War Against Humanity series. Also, because all sci-fi is derivative of itself the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40,000 is another fascist entity that spends human capital at an egregious rate.
The difference being that rather than relying on the private sector and supplying manufacturers like Krupp with slave labor Palpatine prefers nationalizing and supplying himself with slave labor directly.
While I agree with you, there is one part of Palps plan that you might be missing. Suffering. Sith thrive of the suffering and pain. They derive strength and power from negative emotions and hate. Palpatine is intentionally increasing the misery of the galaxy. Perhaps it has to do with some Sith ritual or design he is trying to fufill... but it clearly an intentional choice to make as many people suffer as much as possible... it always seemed to be part of the imperial model, that no one except the guy at the top understands. One theory? By increasing suffering you make the emergence of a new jedi order less likely. The darker the galaxy, the more brightly the light of the Jedi will shine, making it easier to track them down. He has been obsessed with ending the order permanently so perhaps what seems like malfeasance by the emperor is part of that obsession?
When you paused the assembly line, it looked like they where building droids like K2S0. could Andor reprograme a newly assembled droid, one without safety protocols in place to help break him out the prison???
Not to get too political... but this is a case of art imitating life. You might be surprised to know how many of your favorite brands of clothes, food, or tech use prison labor as part of their supply chain.
@@im_piano Chinese/Bengal sweatshops that are basically prison. You can’t leave unless you meet your quota. In the US I forget which brand but they have inmates make pens and tshirts, belt buckles.
Speaking of Starship Troopers, one can elaborate that it was the Federation's militaristic regime that lead to war and not vice versa. Bugs just happened to be an ideal enemy. Remember that the Federation had already been at an undeclared war with the Bugs prior to the asteroid attack. Judging by the news reports from within the movie It seems this war was on Bugs' soil.
Hi friends, have you ever think in the way out? I was thinking, with your plastic plate and your companion plate as well as the clothes, one can make a pair of improvised boots. Where the plates are the basis envolved in clothes that also are fixing your feet there... Perhaps the companions without shoes can stand over the working benches and do not get fried during the initial moves of a breaking out attempt. Another thing is, in case all levels try to escape at once, or to take control of their levels at once, then the guards cannot fired all levels at onces, they will blow the electric system, because a single level already stop the electricity general system, so all levels at once may fried the general electric circuit.
Absolutely wonderful to watch and explore - to be sure. To me, it’s like Blade Runner (original) meets Star Wars - and as a Sci-Fi fan - it is absolutely welcomed in this day “splash and go” - love it!
Looks like Andor will be working on Imperial security droids, which may be where he connects with K-2S0 and may be instrumental in his escape. On a side note, what the heck was Palpatine's end goal with all this? Just plain nihilism to destroy the galaxy and control everything to death?
When de facto control of the entire galaxy (or just the politically and economically important parts of it) isn't an end in itself ... You are probably looking too hard for an answer that's already pretty obvious.
Holy cow I did watch the entire video on the Bureau, I think it was that it was so out of the normal that it became super interesting! Cool early 90's vibe with that lighting color/filter stuff. 🤣
To me the most messed up part was putting the prison in the middle of an ocean..like how cruel is that. To plan for slaves with no possible escape. Which is a dope idea, but idk how Andor escaped lol.
if they show Yularen i hope they show him as an imperial with good qualities. Even tho he serves the empire he is not a bad intentioned person, hope we see more of his character
you're right. he's a terribly intentioned person after the clone wars. read some of the comics. he has NOTHING but pure HATRED towards the jedi and the republic. even in the later years of the clone wars he was said and shown to be working closely with Palpatine in order to secure personal gain when the republic fell. And like the other guy said, they already did show him. but seriously read the comics, he's kind of a hugeeeee piece of shit... that's why they've been showing him like that, granted it was one scene but still. theres a reason he was stationed on the damn Death Star.
Yo Allen, great job! Although alluded to, the old axiom should be emphasized: To the victor goes the spoils. Once Palp, took over a major city, country and then finally the entire planet or moon, All of its hard currency, whether held publicly or privately now belong to the Empire along with all existing Ships, machinery and of course slave labor.
Don't forget that Palpatine is a Sith. Part of the reason for the intentional oppression and corruption, even at the expense of efficiency and detriment of the Empire itself, is the actual oppression and corruption. Such cruelty and brutality strengthens the Dark Side, which in turn strengthens Palpatine. Unlike many villains, Palpatine is well aware that he's evil, and revels in it. He's not an inept leader. He knows exactly what he's doing.
1:27 ummmm remember the yuuzhan vong? There is a very good case to be made that Palpatine knew the YV was a massive threat and that only a military dictatorship would be able to defend the galaxy from them
From those trailer shots Iam pretty sure they are making those K-security droids, or parts for them. Would give him a chance to pick up his cool buddy. I mean, they did just shoved those droids in the show on screen to make everyone go 'ooh yeah he had one of those in the movie!', Iam sure they won't leave us hanging with that ;) xD
Above all economic practicality, Palpatine, as a Sith Lord, feasts upon & thrives over the galaxy’s collective anger, hate & pain. His ultimate issue: being able to control all that suffering, halting it from becoming a legitimate reckoning. His & their hubris was his downfall.
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12:33 In a way it sort of is. In star wars human and humanoid characters are almost always seen wearing shoes. (Actually almost always boots.) Only certain alien species are seen not wearing shoes because of culture, their feet aren't compatible/are resilient enough not to need them, or they don't have feet.
While all other youtubers have given up covering Andor due to the lack of easily weaponised hate based on ruined childhoods, perceived disrespect of legacy characters and whatever else they can make a quick buck off, Generation Tech is going fully down the rabbit hole with all the glorious world building we are getting and damn fine character development and story telling
This. Anti-woke channels do like 1 video, realizes their audiences are capable of individual thinking and doesn't share their hate (despite having Disney's name on it), and move on to bashing something else.
I'm curious about your pronunciation of Ilum. Having played SWTOR for almost 10 years I've always heard it pronounced "ILL-um" - with the accent on the first syllable. You said it as Ill -LUM (like the Illuminating company) with the accent on the second syllable. Any reason for this?
Other than the Plaguis book that shows Palpatine training and learning, they never showed him in a light where you could relate to him or anything. But reading about him and his absolute hunt for power, his plans within plans, within plans.
Replace PORD with GULAG and you have a nice analogue for real world political systems. That's the real value of Star Wars since its creation: A good way to explore the complexities of political systems taken to the nth degree. The real genius of Lucas' construct is that it explores both side of the ideological divide: Capitalism and Socialism are equally scrutinised - thus exposing the real sources of tyranny... Monopoly, authoritarianism, political-detachment by the masses, ineffective regulation and government over reach, control of media and historical narrative. ... ANDOR is the best SW series since the clone wars.
You always assume that Palpatine is in the business of running an empire. He is not. He's in the business of spreading as much fear, pain and misery as he can because he's an Emperor second, but an evil Space Wizard first. The fear and misery translates to power in the Dark Side, and that is what he's talking about when he refers to ultimate power. A dark being he is; not that frail flesh.
When I was in High School back in the 70s , we were warned about robots replacing a lot of human labor force here on EARTH. That would make sense anywhere in the Galaxy.
A prediction. I suspect that Luthen Rael keep's handling will be put to use at some point, probably violently. I think this because of the amount of scenes that it keeps appearing in.
This is going to be amazing and I can't wait for it. What the Empire's doing to innocent people would make me - a pacifist - join the rebellion to stop the cruelty and needless suffering and death. As for the prison system, well... this is a tactic I put in my book about a year or so ago: "Slavery… He was talking about slavery, and the Regents were hiding it under the skirt of the penal system."
oovoo 4 and despayre are the legends prison worlds i am vaguely familiar with. the former is where live captives of bounty hunters were sent in the republic era and the latter is where the death star was first test fired to see if it was functional.
6:19 "and the Empire would become one of the largest employers in the entire galaxy." Also one of the largest implementers of Slave Labor in the entire galaxy. (like Amazon)
There’s a Star Wars following who prefer science fiction over fantasy, whose imagination has been captured by a universe that’s been fleshed out enough to feel almost real, but are ultimately frustrated that its potential is squandered when storytelling is limited to children’s fantasies. I’m amazed at how many comments I’ve read from Andor fans who are delighted with the realistic characters and wealth of mundane detail in the show that help ground the Star Wars universe in the believable.
I clicked on as the photo leading to this clip reminded me of the scene from the “Ice Pirates” prison. Wonder if that was just unintentional or since Ice Pirates is over 30 years old that they would hope no one would notice?
That's what makes android such a awesome show the fact that it's about the the way the Empire works and/or at least parts of it the way the people have been slowly transforming from the Republic to the Empire and didn't just happen all at once it gives you insight into the life in Star Wars itself that's not focused on the main trilogy characters like that's what makes it awesome isn't just good it's awesome
The biggest, most humorous thing about the entire show, so far, is how QUICKLY the people in the show, knowing very little about what the Rebellion is, of course, will consider anything a Rebel attack, and can consider anyone to be a Rebel. Cassian was assaulted by crooked cops and he ended up becoming guilty of manslaughter. Sgt Mosk gave a subtle hint of the possibility that Cassian could have acted in behalf of the 'fomenting pockets' of rebellion against the Empire. Afterward, Karn considers Cassian a Rebel and says it straightforwardly. I'm not sure who, but I think that either Luthen or Mothma is part of a Rebel cell, and it desperately needs money. He has been hoping for at least 6 months to get that money from Mothma, but, as a fallback plan, he recruited a ragtag group of people for only 1 thing, a robbery. The important thing is that he gets the money, but taking it from the Empire is a bonus. But he spoke to each of them as if the robbery was more than that, its primary purpose is to attack the Empire, and each person believed him. Skeen and Cassian were in it only for the money. Nemik whole-heartedly thought he was part of a rebellion. The 2 women could really be part of a rebel cell somewhere that the robbery is supposed to support, but I don't know. Either way, only HOURS, not days, when the crime scene and necessary interviews, and a thorough investigation has already passed, but literally HOURS after the heist, it's already in the news that there was "a large Rebel attack." Nothing less than an assumption, that just happens to not be true. Deedra Meero sees that a Starpath Unit has gone missing, and IMMEDIATELY her mind is made up that the theft was part of a coordinated effort by the Rebellion. Cassian was only trying to get a couple of dollars to get away from Ferrix, pay back debts, clap some cheeks, and buy some nice "styling and profiling" clothes, and take care of his foster mother. He's no Rebel, and he has nothing at all to do with rebel activity. Everyone is so quick to blame it on the Rebellion, but nobody really knows much about it. And in Deedra's Witch hunt to make a simple robbery into something infinitely more than what it actually was, she found solid evidence of what Bail Organa has been doing for at least 14 years secretly, of course. He's been using his wealth, political influence and power to lead humanitarian relief efforts to planets suffering because of the Empire, something we saw him do several times during the Clone Wars. He's been working with various independent rebel cells, and coordinating activities with them so that they work as a unified group. And that network of Rebel Cells associated with Organa's Rebellion has grown a LOT. And, as we've seen him do before, he refit small ships and freighters with the military equipment that the Rebel cells have appropriated from the Empire, to make those small ships combat capable ships. Just when you thought you were a pirate about to rob a freighter, it surprises you with Imperial weapons that will leave your ship shattered into pieces. As far as I know, Deedra mightbe the first person outside the Rebellion to find evidence that it really does exist as a unified network of Rebel cells. She will never know that Organa is it's current leader. And, again, nobody knows that there a large scale Rebellion, and that there are also many independent rebel cells with activities unrelated to the Rebellion. To most people in the show, all of it, even things that aren't Rebellion, are Rebellion. I nearly fainted when Deedra told what she learned from the report she produced
I´d want to believe that rebel captures either get delivered to the ISB for questioning or that prisoners of war get mixed in with ordinary civil prisoners, since the rebels are mere terrorists and belong to the civil populous and thus are treated like imperial citizens.
The new republic actually had a very interesting way of dealing with POWs especially after Endor, their system was basically overwhelmed. You also had stormtrooper nutters blowing themselves in line to create chaos and punish the "traitors"
So i had this theory that part of the madness of the galaxy in the days of the empire with how chaotic and unstable yet stable the system was Was also in part to fuel Palpatines Ego or his darkside power Rage,Fear,Anger,love,lust,passion are things we all feel And all force users can use these feelings but like most sith palpatine thrives of an unhealthy uncontrolled amount at the expense of those around as a result what does he do. He uses the galaxy as a battery to generate the easiest form of "Dark Side" Force power and one thing to note despite him being an ego psychopath he does not have a god complex and is more times more logical than emotional in many ways he knows how to channel his emotions into more healthy forms of productivity...Just at the expense of those around him...He is a master gas lighter and master troller... I doubt he actually even cared for the ideals of the empire so as long as it served him which is why he was fine with various people getting away with neglecting or outside betraying imperial law at times.
A lot of people give TIE fighters a lot of trash for essentially being barebones starfighters, but... There are SO MANY of them. They really are just the most mass produced starfighter ever invented.
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i’ve watched all your andor videos but not a single episode i think i’ll finally watch it
Russia is tbh also a Dictatorship and several other Countrys de facto also
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Seems like someone is pretending to be you. Someone is replying to comments saying they have won a prize or something along those lines.
To be true, north korea is a democracy, if i didnt read wrong they have elections with out independent observers
I don't say this casually - Andor is next-level Star Wars. The story-crafting, the character development, the attention to detail. I don't believe we've ever seen anything quite like it. And while I don't think that everything going forward in the franchise needs to be made in the same mold, this is really, really good.
Agreed - it is 'grown-up' sci-fi...
@@planetofthepete It's just good sci-fi. Focusing on details, paying attention to what is written. I don't know what 'grown up' had to do with it, but youth love good cinema too.
@@lonesurvivor8828 It's because a lot of people want more mass-appeal content like the MCU style because Andor doesn't have lightsabers, Force powers, or cute creatures like Baby Yoda. So people who aren't into more "grown-up" sci-fi won't be interested in Andor. It doesn't excite them.
It feels more grounded in reality. We’re seeing a guy getting caught up fast in a situation he didn’t intend to become part of having a run in with police while at a bar, trying to move a hot item follow up with a bank robbery and then trying to lay low. No Jedi no sith just normal people in multiple alphabet agencies hunting down a dude on the run. To the poster that said it’s mature sci fi that’s spot on. This version of Star Wars feels more like the sci fi show the Expanse I hope more Star Wars shows take this direction of world building
Andor has some of the best world building I’ve seen in Star Wars. Honestly on par with the Prequels. Just love the way this show is expanding the universe. So much character depth and it’s all thanks to the writing. Really hope this show can get more viewers so they LucasFilm can get a hint that this is what the ppl actually want.
It's a testament to the quality of both Andor and your channel that I can be completely engrossed in 10+ minute videos about bureaucracies and prison systems of a fictional universe. Can't wait for more content.
The host seems to know / put a lot thought into the general subject of totalitarian societies. Its like Andor tapped a area he was a expert on. I want to grab transcripts from some of these vids as good political science info...
@@darthverminates9708 I think he has said he is a journalist, and that's how he has seen the world.
Fun detail for episode 7 of Andor - the last sound effect is a jail cell door slamming shut.
The last two scenes are Cassian getting sentenced, and Syril stuck in the Bureau of Standards job. That final sound effect really nails home the parallel that Syril's crummy lifetime dead end government job is also a "prison".
I get the feeling Syril is on the path to become a rebel, and i'm so here for it!
@@Knight121198 I suspect Syril will end up being the guy on the death star pressing the button to blow up Andor in Rouge one.
@@Knight121198 I'm having that suspicion too. We'll see.
You just blew my fucking mind.
He was literally in a cell (cubicle)
"The Empire improves every system it touches. Judge by any metric. Safety, prosperity, trade, opportunity, peace. Compare Imperial rule to what is happening now. Look outside. Is the world more peaceful since the revolution? I see nothing but death and chaos." - The Client from The Mandalorian Season 1
And then gets killed by Moff "pollo hermanos" Gideon
@@GenerationTech Gideon really moved up in the world after having half his face blown off after visiting an old friend.
but remember that it is the Imperial Bureau of Standards that set the metrics
Nothing practical about having the Empire take over your world and suck it dry with storm troopers killing anyone who protests
"Well that was a fucking lie."
When folks complain about Star Wars being “too political” I start and wonder if we are watching the same things. In our own real world penal labor is explicitly allowed by the 13th Amendment. Great video!
Anyone who complains about that really does forget about how George based the rebels off the Viet Cong and the Empire off the US lol
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Thus proving California film students of the 60's and 70's experienced a distinct shortage of historical context and moral clarity.
Pretty sure Nixon wasn't an all-powerful tyrannical sorcerer (they don't usually get forced out of office by a loss of political support. They just execute anyone who ticks them off - with or without using lighting fingers).
And Ho Chi Mihn sure as hell was no Princess Leia.
@@kenle2 it was more about the dynamic between the Empire and Rebels
I thought it was more specifically the Ewoks who were modelled after the VC? At any rate, Leia was inspired by a Mexican revolutionary.
The Empire not only exploits this, it also has even worse loopholes, like considering Wookies to be completely non-sapient so their slavery would not even be considered slavery.
So the plan is basically to have a massive prison population to use as free labor.
I think the room has a lot of empty space for the purpose of bigger equipment. Instead of bringing them to bigger rooms with the big equipment they use just one room and move the equipment the workers need in and out whenever.
Or storm trooper recruits who are nothing more than brainwashed prisoners.
Wanna take 5 years off your 6 year sentence, join up with imps for 2 years... meanwhile when you serve you are brainwashed then WANT to sign up for MORE years!
Sounds familiar
@@asaptrizzy967 hmm where have i heard of that 🇺🇸 who knows 🤷🏽♂️
@@Zapata1994 It sounds like the American prison system that makes 11 Billion annually!
That shoretrooper definitely only stopped Cass and screwed him just to make a quota
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I love Andor, especially seeing how the Empire worked. The Empire's uniforms are bad ass!
Yup imperial unis are clean
Yup because they were based off the Nazi Uniforms 😅
@@cccspwn why must the fascist always get the good drip lol
@@N120Xeno idk Hugo Boss tho...
@@cccspwn That evil drip
The thing I love the most about Andor, is that it's not afraid to let important characters die, there's rarely plot armor, similar to rogue one but a bit less movie like
Was judicial system explored? I LOVED that court scene.
I've been watching a lot of your videos on Andor, and the show is amazing, but I love the passion for the videos on the show your making
I've really been enjoying how Andor has taken Star Wars back to the core of what the Original Trilogy was. Lucas has stated many times that the Empire was meant to be a damning commentary on the US during the Vietnam Era. Even said Palpatine was based on Nixon. So seeing Andor continually go for the throat with commentary about the US, like with this, is great. While the US has done it for different reasons [Antebellum economy turning into our modern prison labor economy due to Southern sympathizers shafting Reconstruction], we do the same thing. Mass inarceration for profit, for slave labor, is how our economy thrives. If abolished, our economy would collapse. Andor really gets Star Wars, and what the themes and imagery of the OT really meant.
The prison walkways are 100% a callback to Kamino clone facilities.
Why at 0:44 someone is breathing through their nose hard af. LMAO
Great analysis! I'm really glad I found your channel since I started watching Andor.
thanks and those models you're working with look awesome btw, love the Lemans GT
@@GenerationTech thanks mate! I've made some Star Wars models too but they don't get as many views as cars.
Lol love this comment thread 💯
@@andrewbernard1911 😁👍
From the prison aesthetic, I'm definitely getting THX 1138 vibes. Is a nice nod to it if so.
Dude wow I didn’t notice that
5:10 World Devastatorts in a nutshell. At least Dark Empire Palpatine knew how to attack with little to no real resources.
i used/use prisons in Thrawn's Revenge to increase production by 10%, getting a galaxy ready for the Yuuzhan Vong in 25 years is hard work. those pesky Rebels and their New Republic complicate things even more than the various Imperial Warlords.
That is pretty solid. Our emperor Sheev has a few questions for you next, but he seemed to be in a good mood. So you should be fine. He said something about downgrading prisoner food, and rerouting the money for a much, much, MUCH bigger DS3. Called the thing Starkiller Base. (Talk about edgy names). I think the emperor wants to transfer you out there.
To bad modern star wars is never going to use the Yuuzhan Vong.
The Soviet gulags were not really death camps. They were labor camps much like what happens here.
@@darthverminates9708
Sure.
Hundreds of thousands of prisoners die of exposure, malnutrition, beatings and bullets to the head ...
"Here".
I really hope you are indulging in sarcasm.
Otherwise, I'd suggest reading actual historical records.
@@kenle2 i have... They back up what I said. Robert Conquest created the death camp narrative as a theory as to what happened to millions of missing people in demographic estimates. Now that we have the official records it looks like many we assumed died in the camps may have been citizens who died in other ways outside the camps... A few people have noted that when someone was sent to gulag their families were often retaliated against. Fired, kicked out of housing, their wwii era ration cards taken. This is pretty much a death sentence. Also; I have some family accounts. I had uncles who went to the gulag who I knew / met and great grandfather. 8 relatives in total. All lived through it...
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Hundreds of thousands did die in the camps. Not the multimillions we used to think. The camps existed for slave labor not to systematically eliminate people.
Andor is assembling droids, which is how he knows how to reprogram K-2SO....Mic drop
or not?lol
It's to make examples of people in order to break others of even THINKING about resisting.
Great video.
The whole ‘human (& non-human) capital’ is lifted directly from Nazi Germany (like most of the Empire). Germany quickly outstripped its internal production capacity as wave after wave of able-bodied German men were sent off to the front lines, so they turned to slave labor from the conquered territories. Timeghost’s WW2 channel has some great episodes covering this in their War Against Humanity series.
Also, because all sci-fi is derivative of itself the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40,000 is another fascist entity that spends human capital at an egregious rate.
The difference being that rather than relying on the private sector and supplying manufacturers like Krupp with slave labor Palpatine prefers nationalizing and supplying himself with slave labor directly.
Wasn't the empire rather based off imperialist USA?
The Imperium of Man is feudal
Nah, is much more similar to Soviet Gulag system. And what starts in Andor, is basicly equivalent of Red Terror.
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy yep and US has largest prison population of any country, who's work makes up 6% of US GDP
While I agree with you, there is one part of Palps plan that you might be missing. Suffering. Sith thrive of the suffering and pain. They derive strength and power from negative emotions and hate. Palpatine is intentionally increasing the misery of the galaxy. Perhaps it has to do with some Sith ritual or design he is trying to fufill... but it clearly an intentional choice to make as many people suffer as much as possible... it always seemed to be part of the imperial model, that no one except the guy at the top understands.
One theory? By increasing suffering you make the emergence of a new jedi order less likely. The darker the galaxy, the more brightly the light of the Jedi will shine, making it easier to track them down. He has been obsessed with ending the order permanently so perhaps what seems like malfeasance by the emperor is part of that obsession?
When you paused the assembly line, it looked like they where building droids like K2S0. could Andor reprograme a newly assembled droid, one without safety protocols in place to help break him out the prison???
Not to get too political... but this is a case of art imitating life. You might be surprised to know how many of your favorite brands of clothes, food, or tech use prison labor as part of their supply chain.
Not surprised heard about this decades ago.
How many? What are these brands? How to learn more about it?
@@im_piano Chinese/Bengal sweatshops that are basically prison. You can’t leave unless you meet your quota. In the US I forget which brand but they have inmates make pens and tshirts, belt buckles.
@@mikloridden8276 Dont forget about phones like the iphone. The have nets along the building to prevent suicide jumpers
Speaking of Starship Troopers, one can elaborate that it was the Federation's militaristic regime that lead to war and not vice versa. Bugs just happened to be an ideal enemy. Remember that the Federation had already been at an undeclared war with the Bugs prior to the asteroid attack. Judging by the news reports from within the movie It seems this war was on Bugs' soil.
Hi friends, have you ever think in the way out? I was thinking, with your plastic plate and your companion plate as well as the clothes, one can make a pair of improvised boots. Where the plates are the basis envolved in clothes that also are fixing your feet there... Perhaps the companions without shoes can stand over the working benches and do not get fried during the initial moves of a breaking out attempt. Another thing is, in case all levels try to escape at once, or to take control of their levels at once, then the guards cannot fired all levels at onces, they will blow the electric system, because a single level already stop the electricity general system, so all levels at once may fried the general electric circuit.
Absolutely wonderful to watch and explore - to be sure. To me, it’s like Blade Runner (original) meets Star Wars - and as a Sci-Fi fan - it is absolutely welcomed in this day “splash and go” - love it!
Looks like Andor will be working on Imperial security droids, which may be where he connects with K-2S0 and may be instrumental in his escape. On a side note, what the heck was Palpatine's end goal with all this? Just plain nihilism to destroy the galaxy and control everything to death?
"Power, unlimited power"
When de facto control of the entire galaxy (or just the politically and economically important parts of it) isn't an end in itself ...
You are probably looking too hard for an answer that's already pretty obvious.
Holy cow I did watch the entire video on the Bureau, I think it was that it was so out of the normal that it became super interesting! Cool early 90's vibe with that lighting color/filter stuff. 🤣
To me the most messed up part was putting the prison in the middle of an ocean..like how cruel is that. To plan for slaves with no possible escape. Which is a dope idea, but idk how Andor escaped lol.
if they show Yularen i hope they show him as an imperial with good qualities. Even tho he serves the empire he is not a bad intentioned person, hope we see more of his character
They did show him
@@georgie9723 He's a CRAWLER! He will loyally serve whoever is in charge!
you're right. he's a terribly intentioned person after the clone wars. read some of the comics. he has NOTHING but pure HATRED towards the jedi and the republic. even in the later years of the clone wars he was said and shown to be working closely with Palpatine in order to secure personal gain when the republic fell. And like the other guy said, they already did show him.
but seriously read the comics, he's kind of a hugeeeee piece of shit... that's why they've been showing him like that, granted it was one scene but still. theres a reason he was stationed on the damn Death Star.
@@Dezzyyy I THOUGHT self interest would have played a big part!
Yo Allen, great job! Although alluded to, the old axiom should be emphasized: To the victor goes the spoils. Once Palp, took over a major city, country and then finally the entire planet or moon, All of its hard currency, whether held publicly or privately now belong to the Empire along with all existing Ships, machinery and of course slave labor.
10:23 who else caught the 4Runner make a cameo 😂 luv it ❤❤
Palpatine's scheme and establishment of the Empire was brilliant, but once he had absolute power, he was a a very poor leader of it.
Definitely a cool host. Your video on the most evil non-Sith people in Star Wars was mentioned in r/StarWars today
Hugo Damask would be appalled by Palps spending habits
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ANDOR is doing a great job explaining how the empire runs the galaxy.
Love all the andor worldbuilding and videos
Andor is now warming to me (hot). It kinda like the sneaky Cold War/ French resistance feel to it.
Definitely should put some Star Wars background on your tv would really set the mood and catch a good vibe but overall love u vids
“Hi. My name is Tech Generation, and I am Allen.”
“I like to wear a reversed baseball cap because I believe in Democracy.”
Andor is "Breaking Bad" in space they should have called it "Breaking Rebel".
Don't forget that Palpatine is a Sith. Part of the reason for the intentional oppression and corruption, even at the expense of efficiency and detriment of the Empire itself, is the actual oppression and corruption. Such cruelty and brutality strengthens the Dark Side, which in turn strengthens Palpatine. Unlike many villains, Palpatine is well aware that he's evil, and revels in it.
He's not an inept leader. He knows exactly what he's doing.
Allan, like your analysis!!
1:27 ummmm remember the yuuzhan vong? There is a very good case to be made that Palpatine knew the YV was a massive threat and that only a military dictatorship would be able to defend the galaxy from them
I’m getting really excited for the Star Wars version of The Shawshank Redemption
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From those trailer shots Iam pretty sure they are making those K-security droids, or parts for them. Would give him a chance to pick up his cool buddy. I mean, they did just shoved those droids in the show on screen to make everyone go 'ooh yeah he had one of those in the movie!', Iam sure they won't leave us hanging with that ;) xD
The lightsaber stuff makes me think, "What up, Flow Fam?" ... I expect no one else will get that reference.
Above all economic practicality, Palpatine, as a Sith Lord, feasts upon & thrives over the galaxy’s collective anger, hate & pain. His ultimate issue: being able to control all that suffering, halting it from becoming a legitimate reckoning. His & their hubris was his downfall.
Your channel rocks!
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In a way it sort of is.
In star wars human and humanoid characters are almost always seen wearing shoes. (Actually almost always boots.) Only certain alien species are seen not wearing shoes because of culture, their feet aren't compatible/are resilient enough not to need them, or they don't have feet.
While all other youtubers have given up covering Andor due to the lack of easily weaponised hate based on ruined childhoods, perceived disrespect of legacy characters and whatever else they can make a quick buck off, Generation Tech is going fully down the rabbit hole with all the glorious world building we are getting and damn fine character development and story telling
This.
Anti-woke channels do like 1 video, realizes their audiences are capable of individual thinking and doesn't share their hate (despite having Disney's name on it), and move on to bashing something else.
3:54 YOOO What the heck is this scene from? I need the rest of this pronto!
The old republic cinematics! These ones were for the eternal empire I believe. 10/10, watch them all
I'm with you man. I love seeing all the minutiae of Imperial life.
Is this legit?
Everytime i hear you say mobile infantry i instinctively think of starship troopers
I'm curious about your pronunciation of Ilum. Having played SWTOR for almost 10 years I've always heard it pronounced "ILL-um" - with the accent on the first syllable. You said it as Ill -LUM (like the Illuminating company) with the accent on the second syllable. Any reason for this?
Somehow Palpatine returned!
Other than the Plaguis book that shows Palpatine training and learning, they never showed him in a light where you could relate to him or anything. But reading about him and his absolute hunt for power, his plans within plans, within plans.
Excellent transition to the ad
Replace PORD with GULAG and you have a nice analogue for real world political systems. That's the real value of Star Wars since its creation: A good way to explore the complexities of political systems taken to the nth degree. The real genius of Lucas' construct is that it explores both side of the ideological divide: Capitalism and Socialism are equally scrutinised - thus exposing the real sources of tyranny... Monopoly, authoritarianism, political-detachment by the masses, ineffective regulation and government over reach, control of media and historical narrative. ... ANDOR is the best SW series since the clone wars.
Well said pete
You always assume that Palpatine is in the business of running an empire. He is not. He's in the business of spreading as much fear, pain and misery as he can because he's an Emperor second, but an evil Space Wizard first. The fear and misery translates to power in the Dark Side, and that is what he's talking about when he refers to ultimate power. A dark being he is; not that frail flesh.
It's almost like Palpatine's goal is to increase the fear, anger, hate and suffering in the galaxy regardless of the consequences - OH WAIT
FYI the music is too loud in the beginning.
Fear and intimidation is the absolute worst method to motivate people and inspire them, in fact it often inspires the opposite reaction of rebellion!
I guess everyone forgot Palpy was preparing for an extra Galactic invasion where Death Star Fleets are necessary.
maybe it's too late but I keep hoping word of mouth gets more people to view this great show, its deserving of it.
The right people are watching it... that's all that matters. Disney know this.
@@miamijim5964 more people watch it Disney will back more star wars like this, that's why it's important. But I hope you're right.
When I was in High School back in the 70s , we were warned about robots replacing a lot of human labor force here on EARTH. That would make sense anywhere in the Galaxy.
A prediction. I suspect that Luthen Rael keep's handling will be put to use at some point, probably violently. I think this because of the amount of scenes that it keeps appearing in.
This is going to be amazing and I can't wait for it.
What the Empire's doing to innocent people would make me - a pacifist - join the rebellion to stop the cruelty and needless suffering and death.
As for the prison system, well... this is a tactic I put in my book about a year or so ago:
"Slavery… He was talking about slavery, and the Regents were hiding it under the skirt of the penal system."
Interesting that in the Empire, there is no middle class. Either wealthy and powerful, or oppressed and poor.
For a second there I thought this was gonna be a critique of the actual prison system. lol
I heard the food is meh
oovoo 4 and despayre are the legends prison worlds i am vaguely familiar with. the former is where live captives of bounty hunters were sent in the republic era and the latter is where the death star was first test fired to see if it was functional.
You should do a video about all the different imperial sectors
6:19 "and the Empire would become one of the largest employers in the entire galaxy." Also one of the largest implementers of Slave Labor in the entire galaxy. (like Amazon)
The entire galaxy in the Empire’s grasp.
Emperor Palpatine, “Oooohh! Free real estate!”
yeah and that standards video was fascinating too...lol so yeah we watched
11:50 I think it was because she made a reference to one specific prosthetic part...
and I'm not referring to his limbs... if you know what I mean lol
There’s a Star Wars following who prefer science fiction over fantasy, whose imagination has been captured by a universe that’s been fleshed out enough to feel almost real, but are ultimately frustrated that its potential is squandered when storytelling is limited to children’s fantasies.
I’m amazed at how many comments I’ve read from Andor fans who are delighted with the realistic characters and wealth of mundane detail in the show that help ground the Star Wars universe in the believable.
I clicked on as the photo leading to this clip reminded me of the scene from the “Ice Pirates” prison. Wonder if that was just unintentional or since Ice Pirates is over 30 years old that they would hope no one would notice?
That's what makes android such a awesome show the fact that it's about the the way the Empire works and/or at least parts of it the way the people have been slowly transforming from the Republic to the Empire and didn't just happen all at once it gives you insight into the life in Star Wars itself that's not focused on the main trilogy characters like that's what makes it awesome isn't just good it's awesome
The biggest, most humorous thing about the entire show, so far, is how QUICKLY the people in the show, knowing very little about what the Rebellion is, of course, will consider anything a Rebel attack, and can consider anyone to be a Rebel. Cassian was assaulted by crooked cops and he ended up becoming guilty of manslaughter. Sgt Mosk gave a subtle hint of the possibility that Cassian could have acted in behalf of the 'fomenting pockets' of rebellion against the Empire. Afterward, Karn considers Cassian a Rebel and says it straightforwardly. I'm not sure who, but I think that either Luthen or Mothma is part of a Rebel cell, and it desperately needs money. He has been hoping for at least 6 months to get that money from Mothma, but, as a fallback plan, he recruited a ragtag group of people for only 1 thing, a robbery. The important thing is that he gets the money, but taking it from the Empire is a bonus. But he spoke to each of them as if the robbery was more than that, its primary purpose is to attack the Empire, and each person believed him. Skeen and Cassian were in it only for the money. Nemik whole-heartedly thought he was part of a rebellion. The 2 women could really be part of a rebel cell somewhere that the robbery is supposed to support, but I don't know. Either way, only HOURS, not days, when the crime scene and necessary interviews, and a thorough investigation has already passed, but literally HOURS after the heist, it's already in the news that there was "a large Rebel attack." Nothing less than an assumption, that just happens to not be true. Deedra Meero sees that a Starpath Unit has gone missing, and IMMEDIATELY her mind is made up that the theft was part of a coordinated effort by the Rebellion. Cassian was only trying to get a couple of dollars to get away from Ferrix, pay back debts, clap some cheeks, and buy some nice "styling and profiling" clothes, and take care of his foster mother. He's no Rebel, and he has nothing at all to do with rebel activity. Everyone is so quick to blame it on the Rebellion, but nobody really knows much about it. And in Deedra's Witch hunt to make a simple robbery into something infinitely more than what it actually was, she found solid evidence of what Bail Organa has been doing for at least 14 years secretly, of course. He's been using his wealth, political influence and power to lead humanitarian relief efforts to planets suffering because of the Empire, something we saw him do several times during the Clone Wars. He's been working with various independent rebel cells, and coordinating activities with them so that they work as a unified group. And that network of Rebel Cells associated with Organa's Rebellion has grown a LOT. And, as we've seen him do before, he refit small ships and freighters with the military equipment that the Rebel cells have appropriated from the Empire, to make those small ships combat capable ships. Just when you thought you were a pirate about to rob a freighter, it surprises you with Imperial weapons that will leave your ship shattered into pieces. As far as I know, Deedra mightbe the first person outside the Rebellion to find evidence that it really does exist as a unified network of Rebel cells. She will never know that Organa is it's current leader. And, again, nobody knows that there a large scale Rebellion, and that there are also many independent rebel cells with activities unrelated to the Rebellion. To most people in the show, all of it, even things that aren't Rebellion, are Rebellion. I nearly fainted when Deedra told what she learned from the report she produced
The guy they got to play Colonel Yularen played a historic British general from the Irish Revolutionary Period so he’s quite experienced
what the hell is that sniff at 0:44?
I didn’t add that it was in the original scene
@@GenerationTechShorts oh wow an actual reply at my dumb comment, don't get me wrong by the way I love your content!
Comparing the Empire to Amazon right before an Amazon recruitment commercial, LOL.
Wish for POW prisons videos soon.
I´d want to believe that rebel captures either get delivered to the ISB for questioning or that prisoners of war get mixed in with ordinary civil prisoners, since the rebels are mere terrorists and belong to the civil populous and thus are treated like imperial citizens.
The new republic actually had a very interesting way of dealing with POWs especially after Endor, their system was basically overwhelmed. You also had stormtrooper nutters blowing themselves in line to create chaos and punish the "traitors"
@@GenerationTech Welp I prefer Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp one...
So i had this theory that part of the madness of the galaxy in the days of the empire with how chaotic and unstable yet stable the system was
Was also in part to fuel Palpatines Ego or his darkside power
Rage,Fear,Anger,love,lust,passion are things we all feel And all force users can use these feelings but like most sith palpatine thrives of an unhealthy uncontrolled amount at the expense of those around as a result what does he do. He uses the galaxy as a battery to generate the easiest form of "Dark Side" Force power and one thing to note despite him being an ego psychopath he does not have a god complex and is more times more logical than emotional in many ways he knows how to channel his emotions into more healthy forms of productivity...Just at the expense of those around him...He is a master gas lighter and master troller... I doubt he actually even cared for the ideals of the empire so as long as it served him which is why he was fine with various people getting away with neglecting or outside betraying imperial law at times.
Death Troopers was an AWESOME book. Legit.
The prisoner transport looked a bit like a Federation shuttle craft to me.
Kinda puts facilities like the star forge and simular automated mass production facilities into a new perspektiv
Hello there friends welcome back to another episode of Generation Tech, my name is Allen
It's gonna be awesome, I'm actually excited to see a starwars version of Shawshank Redemption 😂🤣
Rumour has it that you’re wanted for looting the Jedi Temple post order 66 and a bunch or light sabres are missing 🤔
A lot of people give TIE fighters a lot of trash for essentially being barebones starfighters, but... There are SO MANY of them. They really are just the most mass produced starfighter ever invented.
I'm guessing the prison arc will end with Andor escaping with a reprogrammed Imperial security droid by the name of K-2SO who will aid in his escape.
Been on a roll
Am wondering if Andor's prison stay might link us to Ephraim & Mira Bridger prison revolt in 3BBY. That would be a nice little shoutout.
"Like Amazon..." 😂😂😂
It’s depressing when you see this increasingly playing out across our actual world.
A capitalist republic decaying into a fascist dictatorship