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  • @ManganimistYT
    @ManganimistYT  Місяць тому +3

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  • @joshfromxbox
    @joshfromxbox Місяць тому +36

    "basically summons Jupiter" "basically summons the sun" crying 😭

    • @ManganimistYT
      @ManganimistYT  Місяць тому +7

      @@joshfromxbox this video woulda been an hour long if I explained all the abilities too 😂

    • @joshfromxbox
      @joshfromxbox Місяць тому +3

      @ManganimistYT lol ppl often wank or misunderstand bonolenov and feitan ap in that way Like if these mfs were actually summoning planets and suns you'd think they could at least destroy the building they're fighting in. Bono doesn't even fully destroy the body of nameless chimera ant he's fighting. But people just conflate the name with the attack potency and I always find that silly but we've all been there love your content so even if you did make a 1hour vid I think that would have been a treat.

  • @levnz
    @levnz Місяць тому +102

    Did you know Bungee Gum has the properties of both rubber and gum?

  • @Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan
    @Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan Місяць тому +19

    Feitan is interesting because his ability is so powerful. Imagine what would happen if he used it on the blackwhale.
    But it's so powerful he can't use it. He would potentially kill the entire troupe. I think he'll get the Shalnark treatment. That or he'll be the last troupe member alive and nuke the ship as a final fu to the world.

  • @sugondis727
    @sugondis727 Місяць тому +45

    You forget that Chrollo is now fighting in revenge for Shalnark and Kurtopi unlike their first battle. Could cloud his rationale, but could also fuel something more powerful in him to defeat Hisoka. His intent is to hunt and kill now.

    • @xk_monster
      @xk_monster Місяць тому +15

      We saw how rage powered up kid Gon, so I could only imagine rageful Chrollo

    • @thunderp1719
      @thunderp1719 Місяць тому

      So what's the difference. He was doing this all along

    • @Willified
      @Willified Місяць тому

      ​@@thunderp1719Read the chapters after the anime or watch a recap, you'll get what he's saying

  • @Jayymorriss
    @Jayymorriss Місяць тому +11

    Love the Hunter Hunter content bro, started with JJK on TikTok and haven’t left. Keep it up

  • @AlxV_9
    @AlxV_9 Місяць тому +14

    Something that many seem to forget about Feitan is that his Pain Packer doesn't only involve Rising Sun (mini sun summoning) it also increases his physical abilities, but most importantly as its name indicates "Packer" this can have/contain other forms, as the other members said. And since Feitan is a torturer it's likely that Pain Packer causes other types of death, for example removing the air from an area to cause asphyxiation or summoning a beast to tear apart and devour the "victim" or something (I can't think of other forms, can you give some ideas?).
    Which would make it very versatile for combat and (personally) I would put it on the edge of the category of Illumi, Hisoka and Chrollo.

  • @lilycat2382
    @lilycat2382 Місяць тому +44

    "Chrollo needed a whole year of prep to guarantee his victory."
    Get ready to throw hands in the comments.
    "... but that doesn't mean he would have lost..."
    Put hands down.

    • @Tadok_K
      @Tadok_K Місяць тому +1

      Exactly me

    • @MMAandFootball
      @MMAandFootball Місяць тому +4

      Even if Chrollo had not scurried away and had fought on the spot, let's not act as if the fight wouldn't have been extreme diff for him.

    • @cornbread9512
      @cornbread9512 Місяць тому +3

      I don’t get why people discredit planning when it comes to fights. Hisoka also had time to prep and try to formulate plans. Fans complain about Chrollo scheming more than Hisoka ever did (he enjoyed it) lmfao

    • @MMAandFootball
      @MMAandFootball Місяць тому

      @@cornbread9512 That's because Chrollo's scheming allowed Hisoka to enjoy a higher level death match. Not to mention that HIsoka's a perverted b*stard who literally lives for the thrill of such exact matchups.

    • @NecromancyForKids
      @NecromancyForKids Місяць тому

      Hisoka ended up being disillusioned after the fact and not liking that style of fighting anymore, which is why he is taking a completely different approach in the succession war. ​@@cornbread9512

  • @notforyou2893
    @notforyou2893 Місяць тому +42

    Uvogin is so underated !
    Sure he lost but take into account everything that had to align for that to happen:
    - Kurapika knew Uvogin fighting style since he observed the fight with the shadow beast .
    - Kurapika knew Uvogin Nen type
    - Kurapika knew Uvogin Aura output
    - Kurapika knew Uvogin Hatsu
    Also remember Uvogin didn't take damage from Kurapika attacks despite Kurapika using 100% enhancement with Emperor time.
    The moment Uvogin Went 100% and broke Kurapika arm with his Big-bang punche, Kurapika didn't risk anything and activated Chain Jail.
    Remember that Kurapika loathe the spider so if he could just troll Uvogin and emote on him without Chain jail he would have done so. The fact he used it immediatly after Uvogin went 100% should tell you how the fight would have gone if not for that .
    Don't get me wrong Kurapika did his homework and won the fight but he wasn't stronger than Uvogin !

    • @Dolceandgabana
      @Dolceandgabana Місяць тому +11

      He was dog walking uvo, what do you mean? And you think getting him to spit up blood is not damaging him? That's internal damage, which is worse than cuts and bruises.

    • @Dolceandgabana
      @Dolceandgabana Місяць тому +4

      Not to mention the fact that BBI was enough to completely erase other combatants, and it only broke kurapikas arm. While uvo is OBVIOUSLY physically stronger, you seem to have a bad understanding of their fight; beyond understanding Kura did his homework and likely wouldn't have won with ease without it. But kura straight up eviscerated uvo.

    • @robertboxwell
      @robertboxwell Місяць тому +13

      @@Dolceandgabana He didn't spit anything in the manga. In the manga, the damage Kurapika manages to inflict on 50% Uvogin amounts to just pushing him forward a few inches.

  • @caseyjones8153
    @caseyjones8153 Місяць тому +7

    For Phinks, it probably isn’t even a matter of aura limitation as it is a matter of the motion wearing on his shoulder more the longer he does it.

    • @Tomiwa101
      @Tomiwa101 Місяць тому +2

      So his physical fitness is his limitation? That's still OP.

    • @caseyjones8153
      @caseyjones8153 Місяць тому +4

      @ I mean, repetitive motion like that does tend to wear down your bones over time, so it probably is a perfectly reasonable restriction for such a powerful ability.

  • @BairyHall
    @BairyHall Місяць тому +9

    1. Chrollo
    2. Feitan
    3. Uvo
    Mainly because i wouldnt classify Illumi as a troupe member until we get to his current motivation, nor hisoka

    • @mrmatte07
      @mrmatte07 Місяць тому +1

      total agree, Ilumi is strong but i dont think the spider`s will recruit someone that they can`t hadle easily too.
      Feitan is problably more powerfull than Chrollo too in raw power and badassness.

  • @jibrilbuilder2668
    @jibrilbuilder2668 Місяць тому +1

    Hot Take: Morena is either Gyro or a follower of his.
    Hot Take 2: B. Netero has a place switching technique that he will use to either come aboard or land on continent.

    • @ManganimistYT
      @ManganimistYT  Місяць тому

      Jibril thank you so much for the support man! I talk about these in my latest video here: ua-cam.com/video/62_P_9laNsY/v-deo.html

  • @ThatsCrazy482
    @ThatsCrazy482 Місяць тому +16

    If we’re going by narrative, its implied that Illumi and Hisoka are relative/equals with each other based on their interactions and partnerships. I don’t think Hisoka is in an entire
    league of his own compared to Illumi. I’d say Illumi, Hisoka, and Chrollo are all together in their league.

    • @MrSub132
      @MrSub132 Місяць тому +4

      It's not just implied, when Hisoka was powerscaling the Zodiacs during the chairman election I'm pretty sure he scaled the sheep Zodiac at 85 then based on aura alone he scaled Illumi at 95.
      I can only assume it's 95 relative to himself. Though that was pre death.
      Maybe Illumi already got a boost from the nen pact with Hisoka but then again he honestly doesn't need it cause oneshot manipulator abilties are broken and he has many of them + Zoldyck skills.

    • @benjaminherrera1987
      @benjaminherrera1987 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah I too get the vibes that Hisoka Chrollo and Illumi are on the same tier given the way they treat each other, Illumi so far seems to be less equipped for a 1v1 than the other two but Given his personality and background I'm certain we haven't seen his real potential yet

    • @africandemon1
      @africandemon1 Місяць тому +2

      They are def not the same. After post mortem nen Hisoka is on a different level and it's not even close.

    • @MrSub132
      @MrSub132 Місяць тому +4

      @@africandemon1 we don't know that. Hisoka is on another level right now yeah but Illumi has a oneshot ability. Don't underestimate it. Either.

  • @kashmando
    @kashmando Місяць тому +13

    I don’t think Chrollo would be going to the lengths he is if he didn’t think Hisoka is stronger rn

    • @captainhoopla7773
      @captainhoopla7773 Місяць тому +7

      Nen after death 😤, but chrollo gotta steal ancient shit for a upgrade

    • @Tomiwa101
      @Tomiwa101 Місяць тому +7

      Battles are never 100% certain when there's a little difference in nen proficiency and aura level. Chrollo wanted to secure the win with 0% chances of losing.

    • @kashmando
      @kashmando Місяць тому +1

      @@Tomiwa101 sure but this isn’t the same Hisoka that was already pressing him. If he didn’t have Kourtopi and Shalnarks abilities and sun and moon he might’ve lost the first time. Now we’re talking bout Nen after Death-Soka

    • @cyberpunkalejandro5191
      @cyberpunkalejandro5191 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@captainhoopla7773he's just ensuring hiskoa can't comeback again

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@cyberpunkalejandro5191 I mean he can do that by removing his head or organs though, I just think Chrollo is aware of how dangerous Hisoka is and doesn't want to end up getting killed so he's taking extreme precautions to avoid an uphill battle.

  • @myrdin9216
    @myrdin9216 Місяць тому +3

    Feitan is underrated. His ability is so powerful, that I struggle to see how Hisoka would be able to survive the fight with him. All that bungee gum would melt.

    • @taz4895
      @taz4895 9 днів тому

      Yea. We could say it's a bad match up. But most people argue saying Hisoka would kill him before rising sun but i don't think it's possible

  • @thebusygamer6836
    @thebusygamer6836 Місяць тому +12

    The strongest phantom troupe member spider 0 🕷 manganimist

  • @perryagent9093
    @perryagent9093 Місяць тому

    Idk what it is bro but you’re the best anime theorist I’ve seen. Nothing you say is outta pocket and based all on facts. Love what ur doing keep going

  • @Hissingace110
    @Hissingace110 Місяць тому +1

    I appreciate a list that doesn't wank Uvo and Feitan into the stratosphere. These are pretty much my exact placements too. I also agree with what you said narratively about Chrollo, not just because Hisoka still has more to offer the story, but also because Chrollo again feels the need to get more powerful to face Hisoka again.

  • @InShibuya
    @InShibuya Місяць тому +7

    Uvogin with his six feet power up

    • @Barsibatos-np1lj
      @Barsibatos-np1lj Місяць тому

      toilette

    • @ManganimistYT
      @ManganimistYT  Місяць тому

      toilet
      Bro hit me with the stealth edit…but I’m not changing what I said 🗣️

    • @sapomen1352
      @sapomen1352 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ManganimistYT skibidi

    • @LBynoL
      @LBynoL Місяць тому

      And now he's six feet under...

  • @jakehxllxws259
    @jakehxllxws259 Місяць тому

    “Oh you mean in a fight???” type moment

  • @PauloHenrique-ok3yb
    @PauloHenrique-ok3yb Місяць тому +2

    my ranking:
    1º to 2º - Chrollo and Hisoka
    3º to 10º - Feitan, Illumi, Phinks, Uvo, Bono, Franklin, Nobunaga, Machi (the fighters, I believe they are all relatively on the same level)
    11º to 13º - Shalnark, Shizuku, Pakunoda (support types, but are still faster and more experienced than Kalluto)
    14º - Kalluto (he's slow, he couldn't even keep up with Feitan's fight)
    15º - Kortopi (I could see him being faster than Kalluto, but no feats to prove this)

  • @prod.MJvsTheWorld
    @prod.MJvsTheWorld Місяць тому +4

    i don’t agree with the recon statement. for one, chrollo said they needed to be protected because of the fortune that said that those members would die. two, he’s saying their recon abilities are very important to keep around, but he never says that they are weaker in combat. they just have abilities that can be useful in other ways aside from combat and it would be really bad to lose that instead of losing someone like phinks.
    another thing is that the story kinda just goes against that idea anyway. shalnark’s autopilot was clearly combat oriented and one shot one of the ants. i can see you saying that black voice needs specific circumstances but not that. and im not sure if he’s still weaker with that just because he’s a manipulator. we see throughout the series that you don’t need to be an enhancer to have really strong nen that can just damage an opponent (killua fights, chrollo blowing up hisoka). and then there’s shizuku who’s ability usually just one taps people. she was able to knock out nobunaga with one swing so fast that we didn’t even see her move (and it wasn’t with an intent to kill either). some people say he was arguing and he was off guard but when you consider that their all nen masters who can easily tell who’s tailing on them in an instant, that just doesn’t add up (in fact im pretty sure he was getting in his stance which just implies he’s on guard if anything). if nobunaga is implied to be one of the main members on the frontlines that just makes no sense unless shizuku was just that fast and her weapon is that strong. there’s also the fact that she beat the second strongest ant in that mini arc with barely any effort and she didn’t even use her hidden ability either like some of the other members did. admittedly i don’t have much to say about paku however.
    oh yeah, and the fact that it’s implied all of the troupe members have abilities they hide from one another to avoid risk. i don’t see many people bring this up but it definitely makes the list even more interchangeable than it already is given how diverse the abilities we currently see are. and from what we’ve seen of the ones we currently know, they’re extremely powerful (shalnark ssj, feitan dropping the sun on people).
    so honestly i would only say the spots we know off that are guaranteed are kurotopi and probably paku at the bottom and then chrollo, hisoka, illumi at the top. everyone else in the middle is just speculation imo.

  • @magicxxrjxx536
    @magicxxrjxx536 Місяць тому +3

    I fear for shizuku’s life

  • @Typ35849
    @Typ35849 Місяць тому +2

    Franklin is 4th in the phantom troupe arm wrestling rankings right behind hisoka, pinks and uvogin, they are all cooked

  • @Colorlightt
    @Colorlightt Місяць тому +1

    Franklin did clash with Yobunaga.

  • @sayther01
    @sayther01 Місяць тому +1

    Amazing. I thought I was gonna disagree a lot but you did a pretty solid list with good justifications. So even if I disagree in some placements, your justification is understandable.
    I would have put Illumi up there with Hisoka and Chrollo, tho. He is insanely powerful as an assassin and we have seen him pretty much threatening to kill Hisoka so he is pretty confident that at least there would be a fight, so it's not like Hisoka is a league above him.

    • @laquanlucas6953
      @laquanlucas6953 Місяць тому +1

      Illumi and Hisoka they golden State Stephen Curry and klay Thompson splash Brothers

  • @jimihendrix23456
    @jimihendrix23456 Місяць тому

    2:45 Oh, but he DID mess around. He walks off saying he has to stop toying with his prey. He's a little horror for sure

  • @Fergus22
    @Fergus22 Місяць тому +3

    A question that I have had for a while now on Chrollos Skill Hunter is if it has a limited number of pages (and the ability just fills a blank one), or if a page just materializes inside the book, either placed randomly/in order of nen type, or in a chosen space.

    • @MuSoulOnline
      @MuSoulOnline Місяць тому +4

      He Conjures that book so I guess he can conjur any ammount of pages , also we only seen him use 6-7 abilities, it looks like that book got atleast 200 pages to fill hehe

    • @seeker38
      @seeker38 Місяць тому +3

      I doubt we'll ever get an answer, but having limited pages would make sense. It's not only a logical restriction to boost the efficacy of the technique, but it's probably more likely that a person's mental view of a book has it with a set number of pages. Our default view of books is that they have a page count after all. I have no idea if the abilities are arranged in a particular order, but Chrollo has never been shown having to manually search for the ability he wants so he can probably at least conjure it on whatever page he wants.

    • @Fergus22
      @Fergus22 Місяць тому

      @@MuSoulOnline Makes sense

    • @Fergus22
      @Fergus22 Місяць тому +3

      @@seeker38 Agreed, I think the organization of the book could be something of a randomizer every time he activates it, kinda like the omnitrix from Ben 10. It's probably more simple, like the pages being in order of when he stole them.

    • @seeker38
      @seeker38 Місяць тому +1

      ​@Fergus22 being in order of when they were stolen probably does make the most sense. Now that I'm thinking about it, being in a set order could actually be used as another restriction. So rather than conjuring the book automatically at the correct page maybe Chrollo has to memorize which ability is on which page and mentally choose the page when conjuring it. It would be a simple but effective restriction for someone as smart as Chrollo to implement.

  • @ianrice2085
    @ianrice2085 Місяць тому

    Love that you are bringing your JJK style to HxH

  • @Cursed888
    @Cursed888 Місяць тому +1

    I DEFINITELY wouldn't sleep on Machi.

    • @Archanfel
      @Archanfel Місяць тому +4

      I gladly would sleep on Machi.

    • @chargemannyn2918
      @chargemannyn2918 Місяць тому

      her nen threads are probably super durable since she has 80% efficiency in enhancement

  • @XxuplmxX
    @XxuplmxX Місяць тому

    I think Machi is highly underrated despite us having no real fights/feats to reference.
    It’s very interesting that in the phantom troupe flash back, it was Machi who was able to see the nen of the embalmer instead of Chrollo. Togashi demonstrates that those with high potential of nen talent use nen subconsciously before being properly introduced to it. We see Gon do this all the time during the hunter exam.
    This one is a long shot but we see Hisoka debating to kill Killua just to fight an enraged Illumi. There’s a good chance Hisoka wants to kill Chrollo first to fight a fully enraged Machi. Why else would he let her live? To deliver the message? I think killing her right then an there would be a sufficient message.

  • @Mosupple
    @Mosupple Місяць тому

    Your manga recap vid skipped over a lot of details so could you make a video breaking down each of the princes, what they've done so far in the arc and what theyre currently up to. If you make a similar video for the phantom troupe, Kurapika and even the recent mafia factions itd be super helpful for any future returning manga readers trying to catch up after any potential hiatuses and the videos would pair nicely with your original recap video.

  • @oscarljimenez5717
    @oscarljimenez5717 Місяць тому +1

    Hey, have you considered reading Gachiakuta? It's pretty good

  • @tjadams98
    @tjadams98 Місяць тому +3

    For some reason I really think Phinks is that dude Fr. U talk about aura? That boi got it. I have a feeling he’s above Feitan nd maybe Uvo. Nd I mean……hes the Pharaoh of Meteor City. Cmon.

    • @MrSub132
      @MrSub132 Місяць тому +2

      I hope he shows out, I think he's probably equal to Feitan with a higher potential for damage without risk.
      If he can save charges between fighting it would be perfect

    • @Tomiwa101
      @Tomiwa101 Місяць тому +2

      I have always gotten the same vibe that he's the strongest after Chrollo. He's actually very fast in terms of movement speed. If that also translates to how fast he can wind his arm, he'll be OP as hell. There's also the possibility of him winding both arms at the same time.

    • @Moonmi747
      @Moonmi747 Місяць тому +2

      I don't think Phinks would be stronger than Uvogin, but maybe Feitan. SInce transformed Zazan's durability out scaled Feitan's ap and Feitan had to resort to painpacker, whereas Phinks still thought that he could beat Zazan tells me that Phinks might scale higher in terms of ap than Feitan.

  • @not.acronym
    @not.acronym Місяць тому

    Love you bro ❤️

  • @drew20y
    @drew20y Місяць тому

    Bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and cu....
    I mean gum.

  • @perry-1572
    @perry-1572 Місяць тому

    Funny thought, could Shizuku use her vacuum to suck up things like Shalnark’s phone or Nobu’s sword on the spot?

  • @pyroboy417
    @pyroboy417 Місяць тому +2

    Pause, kalluto is a dude? Wild.
    Also, ive always wondered how close Uvogin was to adult Gon in terms of brute strength.

    • @chargemannyn2918
      @chargemannyn2918 Місяць тому

      he’s just so hard to scale since we only saw him fight twice in the series. If I were to guess, I would say he was around 1/50th the strength of adult gon, but thats just my head canon.

    • @pyroboy417
      @pyroboy417 Місяць тому

      @ obvi adult gon negs, but i feel like his punching power wasnt that far behind. He just had no finesse.

    • @Moonmi747
      @Moonmi747 Місяць тому +1

      It's really not close at all. Given the fact that Netero's strike did zero damage to Pitou, I think it's safe to say that any of adult Gon's strike would be hundreds of times stronger than Uvo's BBI.

  • @xBrandon888
    @xBrandon888 Місяць тому

    I don’t think Machi and Hisoka have a “fake friendship” or that Hisoka respects her because he’s strong or anything like that.
    I think they’re close because they have some type of romantic history, that’s what the story points to the most

  • @DONYETELLO
    @DONYETELLO Місяць тому

    If you had to guess, where would you rank the #8 Phantom Troupe member that was killed by Silva?

  • @187Blackheart
    @187Blackheart Місяць тому

    Nobunaga said that him and Uvo together were the strongest duo

  • @giovalladares1022
    @giovalladares1022 Місяць тому

    Chrollo claimed Uvo was unbeatable 1v1. You can take that to imply a lot. Like Chrollo is very humble (he also didn’t want to be the leader) but you could also interpret the statement as Chrollo saying Uvo could beat anyone in a straight up brawl with no prep or intel

  • @totallyjerd1751
    @totallyjerd1751 Місяць тому +1

    Please do a video breaking down Arcane season 2!!

  • @silberneseele67
    @silberneseele67 Місяць тому

    I feel like it’s kind of a shame how narratively, we know Hisoka is probably going to win his war against the Phantom Troupe. Mainly because he’s constantly been hyped up to be a major fight for Gon.

  • @pr1ckastley
    @pr1ckastley Місяць тому

    I won't let bro fall off

  • @oresterugwiro4457
    @oresterugwiro4457 Місяць тому

    Fucking love your videos bro 🔥

  • @dtyd0194
    @dtyd0194 Місяць тому +2

    Feitan better be top5

  • @lifaakram
    @lifaakram Місяць тому

    I'll be honest although I love your videos..... Power ranking HxH characters , and power scaling just doesn't work ... I think that's what I love about this manga . From a big fan 🙏🏻

  • @IdleDeathGambling
    @IdleDeathGambling Місяць тому

    Need a video examing the final boss of hxh. The Rookie Crusher Tonpa. Bro, fails the exam on purpose.

  • @JayZs-Nostrils
    @JayZs-Nostrils Місяць тому

    Legend:
    100+ Limit breakers(Netero, Royal guards+)
    75-100 High tiers(Elite combatants)
    50-74 Mid tiers(Above average nen user like Gon and Killua in greed island)
    25-49 Average nen users(Common nen users)
    1. Chrollo 92
    2. Hisoka 92
    3. Illumi 92
    4. Feitan 91
    5. Uvo 90
    6. Nobunaga 89
    7. Franklin 89
    8. Machi 89
    9. Phinks 89
    10. Bono 70
    11. Shizuku 68
    12. Shalnark 68
    13. Pakunoda 63
    14. Kalluto 63
    15. Kortopi 40

  • @jjsalas
    @jjsalas Місяць тому

    Fun fact: I have a friend thats a carbon copy of shizuku, but blonde. It's so weird.

  • @ChristopherOjok-sh6cp
    @ChristopherOjok-sh6cp Місяць тому

    Where would gin and killlua rank in this

  • @4e34e545e345w3
    @4e34e545e345w3 Місяць тому

    Personally I think Nobinaga is up there in the top 2 spot right after Chrollo.
    His hatsu is probably really simplistic and requires his sword but for 1 on 1 he is the best.
    I don't count Illumi nor Hisoka, only the Troupe fron Yorknew.

  • @whatever256
    @whatever256 Місяць тому

    Does Hisoka really think, he's the strongest out there?
    I remember that Machi said that Hisoka thinks he's the strongest, maybe it was an only anime thing

  • @giocatic7610
    @giocatic7610 Місяць тому

    Franklin underrated

  • @justbats77
    @justbats77 Місяць тому +1

    nobunaga my goat

  • @CJJ5269
    @CJJ5269 25 днів тому

    Do you believe Hisoka is stronger than Zeno or Silva?

  • @richardvalentine5224
    @richardvalentine5224 Місяць тому

    I think nobunaga is the strongest in the middle tier just because he seems a better fighter than bene. And has more versatility than phinks

  • @mrmatte07
    @mrmatte07 Місяць тому

    Feitan and Phinks underrated, i dont think Hisoka can handle Feitan and phinks in 1v1, and problably if he can Hisoka will be very very badly injured afterwards.
    Ilumi is strong but i dont think the spider`s will recruit someone that they can`t hadle easily too unless this someone is hisoka rsrs.

  • @istheway-gu6yo
    @istheway-gu6yo Місяць тому +1

    The best HxH content creator

  • @Edogawa199X
    @Edogawa199X Місяць тому

    THIS IS THE ONLY CORRECT LIST and Im a Royal Guards fan so this is not biased list.
    1. Chrollo
    2. Hisoka
    3. Illumi
    4. Feitan
    5. Phinks
    6. Nobunaga
    7. Uvogin
    8. Franklin
    9. Machi
    10. Bonolenov
    11. Shalnark
    12. Shizuko
    13. Pakunoda
    14. Kortopi

  • @Tyler-ln6ig
    @Tyler-ln6ig Місяць тому

    when tf did illumi join the phantom troupe

  • @josephgagui3437
    @josephgagui3437 Місяць тому

    I will ranked the members who are enchanters lower.. that nen category is not as flexible. Feitan and Nobunaga for sure are top 5. Hisoka is not that strong but Togashi gave him a cheat power as the gum can counter any physical attack in theory.. Chrollo is just not a direct fighter and thats why theres too many theatric from their fight.

  • @dreezy2286
    @dreezy2286 Місяць тому +1

    Nobunaga is the truth top 5

  • @magicxxrjxx536
    @magicxxrjxx536 Місяць тому

    Other than chrollo, I love phinks

  • @yolandaspencer563
    @yolandaspencer563 Місяць тому

    Wait.....Nobunaga is #1
    I thought that was the strength ranking
    80% accuracy

  • @o_MusicLover_o
    @o_MusicLover_o Місяць тому

    Here's my opinion
    12. Kalluto/Kortopi
    11. Shizuku
    10. Bonolenov
    9. Shalnark
    8. Pakunoda
    7. Franklin
    6. Machi/Phinks
    5. Nobunaga
    4. Uvogin
    3. Feitan
    2. Illumi/Hisoka
    1. Chrollo

  • @jojobod
    @jojobod Місяць тому

    Allat yap for kashimo to STILL solo 🥱

  • @jimbusfrimbus6631
    @jimbusfrimbus6631 Місяць тому

    Uvogin my fav

  • @o_MusicLover_o
    @o_MusicLover_o Місяць тому

    No way.. you criminally rank pakunoda so low..
    In fact she's way above than Kalluto, Shizuku, and Shalnark
    This ranking is just a BS and not accurate!
    Remember kalluto did not follow feitan's movements in chimera ant arc while shizuku was casually following his movement.. not only that pakunoda is way stronger than shizuku and more charismatic.. she's specialist and adding the fact that she's also fast and agile as you can see in the yorknew arc.. she's also confident in facing the likes of phinks.. and most of all she's an OG Phantom troupe.. way more experienced than shizuku, kortopi, and kalluto.. Also chrollo, relies SO MUCH on her..
    The only thing that makes her down is just she's clouded by her decisions.. leading to her sacrificial act in the end..
    Overall she's a monumental member of the PT.. and I can't say she's weak.. her hatsu alone could put half of the spiders in danger!! She's expert in NVC and could know everyone's weakness by only one touch!
    Just because she had only small amount of screen time and her ability doesn't showcase well canonically or she has not done all out in the series
    DOESN'T mean she ranks below than any other members especially the 3 phantom troupe that i mentioned

  • @elcalabozodelandroide2
    @elcalabozodelandroide2 Місяць тому +2

    - Chrollo
    -new hisoka
    - illumi and his needle people army ready
    -regular hisoka
    - suicide feitan (im no ranking his normal version)
    - uvogin
    - franklin purely out of vibes
    - phinks cuz he catch gon and killua
    -machi or nobunaga
    -machi or nobunaga.
    - suprise jupiter bonolenov (same as feitan)
    -ssj shallnark (it was part of the ppl potrayed as stronger than kalluto)
    - kalluto
    -kortopi
    The reason new hisoka is still bellow chrollo is simple ; chrollo never is forced to fight ; he can always just avoid the confrontation and go away

    • @ayo123
      @ayo123 Місяць тому

      Hisoka is stronger

  • @captainhoopla7773
    @captainhoopla7773 Місяць тому

    Until they all show combat feats hard asf

  • @friedhotwings
    @friedhotwings Місяць тому

    Switch Nobunaga and Machi and we’re good.

  • @Slhazzard
    @Slhazzard Місяць тому +1

    I didn’t realize uvogin was a top tier fighter until years later.
    I just assumed he fought a bunch of scrubs until he was packed out 🚬 and shoveled 6 feet under by Pika 🪦.

    • @joshfromxbox
      @joshfromxbox Місяць тому +2

      Yeah togashi still hyping him up to this day

    • @Moonmi747
      @Moonmi747 Місяць тому +1

      Chrollo literally stated that in terms of throwing hands... Uvogin's strongest in the troupe and that includes Chrollo himself. Now obviously Illumi and Hisoka would pack Uvogin up with their versatility and speed but Uvogin dominates most other enhancers.

  • @Jponly06
    @Jponly06 Місяць тому +2

    Wait… how am I just now realizing shizuku’s cross is upside down? 😭
    Maybe it’s the weed allowing me to see into the 6th dimension

  • @jayyydon4969
    @jayyydon4969 Місяць тому

    Franklin definitely below machi and shalnark. I have seen nothing from that bum

  • @gbemade
    @gbemade Місяць тому

    Id prolly js put uvogin over feitan and illumi

  • @邦卡邦卡
    @邦卡邦卡 Місяць тому

    Nobu > Franklin????? what???/

  • @drownedhill3829
    @drownedhill3829 Місяць тому

    Uvo is number one. The original proposed leader of the troupe.

    • @lifaakram
      @lifaakram Місяць тому +1

      ....... They were kids at that time ., he was the strongest when they were kids , without Nen .

  • @GunsGoldGlory
    @GunsGoldGlory Місяць тому

    I solo all of them

  • @iUMiE
    @iUMiE Місяць тому

    Fanum tax group im sorry

  • @Dxstant_
    @Dxstant_ Місяць тому +5

    Best girl Shizuku destroys them all and Hisoka🗣

    • @Sinnarattygang
      @Sinnarattygang Місяць тому

      Hisoka are you dumb?

    • @Dxstant_
      @Dxstant_ Місяць тому +1

      @Sinnarattygang what

    • @epicebones7329
      @epicebones7329 Місяць тому +1

      In a fight, right?

    • @Sinnarattygang
      @Sinnarattygang Місяць тому

      @@Dxstant_ i mean hisoka is the strongest

    • @Dxstant_
      @Dxstant_ Місяць тому +1

      @@Sinnarattygang brother i think its pretty obvious the comment was satire. No shit hisoka ome taps her

  • @diegorojas8959
    @diegorojas8959 Місяць тому +3

    I like the list but i would put Feitan over Illumi.
    Illumi has the win condition that most Manipulators have but in a 1v1 i'll put my money on Pain Packer.

    • @XXSteel
      @XXSteel Місяць тому +5

      Illumi has a one shot. It’s possible he’d be able to beat feitan before pain pecker’s requirement is met

    • @Tomiwa101
      @Tomiwa101 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@XXSteelIs pain packer necessary to defeat Illumi? Feitan is well-rounded with speed and agility. If Feitan is fast enough to evade his needles, he's done for.

  • @luizrafael7939
    @luizrafael7939 Місяць тому

    Pehaps people overrated Nobunaga. Remeber his En is not that great, just compare to grampa Zoldyck... If i would guess, he is heading to die by freaking guy who transforms objects into animals - what a silly power 😂😂😂

  • @Capslok23342
    @Capslok23342 Місяць тому

    maaan, uvo would destroy feitan.

  • @SylvesterRahim
    @SylvesterRahim Місяць тому +3

    I really don’t understand this narrative that Hisoka and chrollo are relative to each other. I just think it’s in chrollo nature to be overly prepared and obsessive. Narrative wise it is implied that a no prep chrollo would win in a fight to the death with Zeno. People are also underestimating his abilities without skill hunter. Skill hunter isn’t very combat friendly in use and if you’re not as intelligent as chrollo you’re unlikely to be able to use it effectively. Let’s remember that chrollo traded hands with Zeno & Silva and came out relatively unharmed. Here is how I see any chrollo v hisoka fight playing out pre hisoka’s death.
    Chrollo (without skill hunter) extreme def either way.
    Chrollo (with skill hunter but no prep. Mid def for chrollo.
    Chrollo ( with skill hunter and prep = no def for chrollo. Yes it took him a year to prep but the fight itself was fairly one sided.
    I just think this is part of his character. If he is picking a fight with you it means you have zero chance to win.

    • @SylvesterRahim
      @SylvesterRahim Місяць тому +1

      Furthermore what he is looking to do this time is not just kill hisoka (he knows he can do that already) but make sure he stays dead this time. He is looking for a power that invalidates post mortem nen. Which might be huge in this arc.

    • @SylvesterRahim
      @SylvesterRahim Місяць тому +1

      I haven’t seen people actually dig down on what that power could be. Everyone keeps thinking it just so he can take on hisoka but I think he is more than capable of that all ready. This power seems more dark and sinister.

    • @MrSub132
      @MrSub132 Місяць тому +1

      Nah you're doing Togashi dirty with this take. Chrollo without his specialist ability??? What??
      First of all did you not actually see the fights Hisoka had? Most abilities dont do anything to him at all and if he hits you ONCE with a punch or just the gum itself you're cooked.
      Transmutation is close to enhancement and Hisoka is a top tier nen user so his enhancement is also strong on top of him being strong enough swing multiple people around like a sledgehammer.
      Specalists lack in Enhancement. They can't beat transmuters with just aura vs aura fights unless their specalist hatsu allows them to.
      Hisoka is literally folding Zeno. It was also implied to me that it would involve prep cause Chrollo brought up a hypothetical 1v1 and if Chrollo actually wants to kill someone he preps for it but as much as he did for Hisoka.
      Either way Chrollo has plenty abilities to try and close the gap against Zeno and cheese him but against Hisoka you cant do riskt shit like that.
      That AND he basicly doesn't feel any pain at all. He doesn't even flinch. He didn't even realize he lost a foot. Gave up his arm for mind games.
      This is all pre death.
      Now he's a different beast.
      Chrollo is going for a legendary upgrade and ability for Hisoka specifically as he should.
      He already knows that he'd probably die if Hisoka finds him before that.

    • @SylvesterRahim
      @SylvesterRahim Місяць тому +1

      @@MrSub132 did you not chrollo fight Zeno and Silva. Silva even commented about how much physically stronger he had gotten. And since the last chapter we know so much now about specialist so what you’re describing is your “low” level specialist. People like chrollo, 4th prince, and marana could max out in all those categories. Chrollo was basically just using basic nen ability to hold off Zeno and Silva. I think you’re underestimating how much of a beast he really is.

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@SylvesterRahimNah it wasn't implied he could beat Zeno, all Zeno said was it would be an interesting outcome not that he would lose to Chrollo. You guys misinterpret what Zeno said. Yeah Chrollo is strong but so is Zeno and he has experience fighting against Netero the most powerful nen user at his peak, so don't think Chrollo is beating Zeno unless he has prep or is willing to die in the process.

  • @DiegoGueva
    @DiegoGueva Місяць тому +3

    It is understandable that Chrollo is the strongest and is between number one and number two; he is more versatile, agile and intelligent than Hisoka and a martial arts master even better than Hisoka (As in the sky coliseum Hisoka recognizes his ability ".. How did you modify your attack from that angle?”) Hisoka defeating Uvo, Franklin, Feitan, Phinx or Nobunaga is quite debatable; speaking more specifically of the unresurrected Hisoka. He never did anything to show that he was stronger than them, in fact, his ability would not be very efficient against an enchanter as strong as Uvo.

    • @ayoubelkorti954
      @ayoubelkorti954 Місяць тому

      Yeah we never seen something from Hisoka that give us proof he can beat someone like Uvo , but he showed that he is way smarter and if the members of shadow beast have somehow damaged Uvo the strongest enhancer with strongest body , i think Hisoka could too , we don't know if his cards can cut Uvo but i think they can , also if we put Chrollo vs Uvo in the heaven arena could those human kamikaze damage Uvo i don't think so , he has already stopped a bazooga shot at him from the mafia , but we know that somehow Chrollo will win against Uvo .

  • @ThCrimsonReaper
    @ThCrimsonReaper Місяць тому +1

    Nice list
    I agree for the most part, but would put kalluto over shizuku and if we are going off of vibe and narrative, I actually think machi and nobunaga are both potentially above bonolenov, maybe even phinks
    Since we are factoring vibes and narrative, i fully expect the hardcore powerscalers to crucify us 😅

    • @Jerryon60fps
      @Jerryon60fps Місяць тому

      Bolonenov throws a planet at machi and nobunaga and they diez

  • @ppv1780
    @ppv1780 Місяць тому +1

    Chrollo is 1. Hisoka doesn’t have any factual proof or feats to be be considered 1. Hisoka craves for stronger opponents.
    Once again, Chrollo didn’t “need” a whole year to win. But to win 100%. There’s a difference.

  • @JackRagna
    @JackRagna Місяць тому

    Guys, Sukuna vs Trafalgar Law. Who wins?

  • @Bandit.Chrollo
    @Bandit.Chrollo Місяць тому +1

    Hot take, but I have no reasons to put Illumi above Feitan. He killed some low hunters, play with his brother, nothing else in terms of feats. And Hisoka's opinion about ranking Illumi for example above Zodiacs or some other people, is not really sure thing. Hisoka already got wrong before. Why wouldn't be wrong about Illumi or his ranking in general too. Besides that, Hisoka doesn't know all troupe's members hatsus, skills etc. He himself stated it during YorkNew.
    Unless Illumi shows something more impressive, no reasons to be above Feitan.

  • @thebifguy
    @thebifguy Місяць тому

    Every think about making one piece video's?

  • @santatrarakotoarimino5316
    @santatrarakotoarimino5316 Місяць тому +1

    It has been said that Hisoka is stonger due to post mortem nen specifically ? And i'm really wondering if there's some condition to Hisoka being alive right now ? What if he dies after Killing all the spiders
    Anyways ; chrolloo >>>>>>> Hisoka

  • @Sinnarattygang
    @Sinnarattygang Місяць тому +5

    Hisoka going to smoke chrollo can't wait for the downfall on his stans 😂😂

  • @mattc4266
    @mattc4266 Місяць тому

    Reminder that akatsuki > phantom troupe

  • @thommyzawa5186
    @thommyzawa5186 Місяць тому +2

    hisoka not a phantom tropue bro, don't include that gay clown to this masterpiece group of villain

    • @Steevy84
      @Steevy84 Місяць тому +1

      Hisoka is not gay, he is omnisexual, that's different lol

    • @Nosyboy_huh
      @Nosyboy_huh Місяць тому +1

      @@Steevy84 defending gay pedos in 2024 is wild work

    • @sayther01
      @sayther01 Місяць тому +2

      ​​@@Nosyboy_huhHisoka is not any of those things. He likes to fight. It's an entirely different thing.
      Also if you remember, the only time he tries something romantically or sexual is with Machi (a woman in her twenties) in Heavens Arena (even tho Machi rejected him)
      That would make Hisoka a normal heterosexual.

    • @Steevy84
      @Steevy84 Місяць тому

      @@Nosyboy_huh Guys, why are you all talking about gay people when this is a manga review??? lol
      Anyway, ma boy Hisoka wanted to spend the night with Machi, but she didn't, after he defeated Kastro, so he is just a pervert without taste limitations hahaha