the "wonyoung getting special treatment" argument in 2024 annoys me so much. wonyoung is a stan attractor, but the other girls are NOT wasting away unnoticed. they've each had their own charm since debut and now that they've had experience in the industry even more companies and audiences are focusing on them. tell me you don't keep up with ive without telling me you don't keep up with ive.
The way these people surely won’t even know about all the other members’ variety appearances or about Leeseo’s OST and Rei’s own youtube channel…they only pay attention to Wonyoung’s activities and scream about favoritism whenever she breathes 💀
I even feel like wonyoung is being “left” down sometimes for the others to shine. Like getting fewer lines and even she makes herself small to not outshine them.. as long as they are a healthy, happy gg. Why does it matter? They are all unique in their own way.
@@Phd366 Yes as wonyoung Stan since 2018..i feel that in ive ,i know she declined ton solo schedules for focus group schedules ..yet she get hate for shine when yujin and rei are the most promoted than her. Wonyoung is obliged to loss her solo opportunities in important schedules in her carrer because the non fans never check ive solo schedules...they trying hard to hate wonyoung
Wonyoung do get activities that makes her more noticed to non fans. Like her being MC on Music Bank and many award shows. Wonyoung also was former IZ*ONE member. Like most people don’t keep up with every brand a random idol signs up with. Stuff like acting debut, year end collabs and MC stuff is what you notice. I don’t stan IVE, but I do see Wonyoung on some award being a MC. I think someone else from IVE also is a MC for Inkigayo now. Or is she from illit, I am not so sure.
Honestly, how are people even taking sides on the HYBE and Min Heejin situation. Both sides are messed up and have done shady things. The only ones we should support are the idols who were unfortunately dragged into this mess.
What has Hybe done that’s messed up? Specifically? Just because the haters cast non specific shade on Hybe , doesn’t mean it’s real. We know Min has messed up, big time. End of story. Good luck Hybe in weeding her out. Hybe is an incredible success story. Can’t be easy running a massive enterprise. Could you do it?
Hybe is going full corporate, putting quantity over quality, working with shady people like Scooter Braun and Min Hee-Jin, who apparently like to use minors as cash cows. How many of the current Hybe groups will last longer than 7 years? As a casual listener you might not care but as a fan you are emotionally attached to them. The more groups Hybe has the easier it becomes for them to replace groups once they cause any kind of trouble, become less profitable or make high demands for their next contract.
@@MoonstoneStarChaser…. I’m going to assume you don’t work in business either and you’re also not an adult from your comment. Not only is this company working with known criminals mind you they’re working with someone who’s being investigated by the federal law in fucking America in their own country, this person has to flee to South Korea to work with them because he’s being under investigation by both federal government and the regular government because of his ties to shady ass people and for Illegally obtaining the rights to some of his artist work. This company also has an issue that fans and the Korean business people have pointed out. It’s not even just fans, but as people who work in the industry is pointed this out about the company that they lack proper training for some of their idols, and that they overwork some of their artist, they have a boy group that I’m a casual listener to since their debut which was about four years ago now they have not had one break. I mean, they have had a CD come out which takes several months to sit there and record and practice choreography for comeback, then went straight to touring which again during the time of them recording that album in the first place they were sitting there and practicing for choreographies for the tour and then come back to South Korea to have two weeks where they weren’t doing anything because they were recording another album because they have had four albums back to back along with having three tours back to back and they’re currently just finishing a tour and coming out with a new album. Not overworking your artist I don’t know what the fuck is. That’s not even getting the fact that their biggest group that they’ve had to date the group that created them BTS has actually come out on more than than one occasion. Having talked about the direction of the company and how they don’t necessarily like it they have themselves complained about the pricing for things because they think it’s ridiculous how overpriced they have made certain objects that shouldn’t be over $100. They sat there and talked about the fact that they’ve been fighting with the company because of the fact that their vision of the music that they want to come out with and the Vision that the company is trying to push for them as a group is no longer aligned with one another but the only reason why they say is because they do have alliances with the other staff members and people who work there and they do have freedom to a certain degree. They have on multiple, interviews basically sat there and talked about how songs like butter and stuff were pushed by the company, but not to look forward to more songs like that because that’s not the type of music they want to come out with that’s not the message that they want to push, which basically is saying without blatantly coming out that them in the company no longer have the same vision when it comes to the music they want to come out with. Everyone is aware of the fact that they have not been properly some of Their groups. That’s something that they’ve been called out for even in the Korean entertainment industry. I feel like that’s another thing that people keep overlooking who wanted to defend this company people who work in the same industry as them even people who are in like rival companies I’m talking people people and companies where they’re actually friendly with one another or even just people in the business side of entertainment, sat here and pointed out how this company has gotten really big really fast but they’re also cutting corners and making a lot of stupid business decisions ones that do not benefit them at the end of the day because of anything is going to either cause for the groups to not have longevity to be able to last longer than seven or so years but also it’s causing doubt for other businesses of people who wanna work with them like who’s going to wanna work with a company that hired a man who is being investigated for having ties to literal child and human trafficking rings who sat there and has, basically disappear from his own country because he’s being investigated for breaking federal laws we’re only aware of two of the federal law laws but there’s more than two charges against this man. Homegirl has fucked up and she definitely should pay for that if she did the crimes that the company has said that she’s done and she’s a bit of a fucking weirdo, but the shit that this corporation is doing is insane and the fact that it still has fans for defending the corporation at the end of the day, why are you defending the corporation who doesn’t give a shit about you you are nothing more than a dollar sign in their eyes. You should be caring about the artist and sometimes caring about the artist means not liking the fucking corporation that they’re signed to and wanting to see change there, and also clearly there is some kind of evidence to this company doing shady shit is just rumors of them being a part of stuff which mind you other companies such as cube entertainment, and JYP entertainment have also been accused of being pulled part of cults or having sat there and done like manipulation to the charts and stuff ironically enough, though neither one of those companies were actually actually sat there and investigated for those things first of all the companies put out their own things like they just went straight to the police and gave them all the information that they needed to show that they never manipulated any chart. The police didn’t have to investigate them for that shit not only that but they also sat there and we’re just like yeah no we’re not a part of any calls so they weren’t investigated for that either the fact that this company is actually still being investigated for both of those allegations sizzle about how muchpeople genuinely over there and South Korea think this company is shady and has been at least because even if those allegations aren’t true being investigated means that every part of this company is gonna be investigated because they genuinely probably think that there’s something that they’re hiding or trying to pretend isn’t going on and they will get to the bottom of it.
"Why are they treating Inkigayo like Coachella?" Sounds like someone is allergic to fun, energy, and could possibly use a bit more sunlight with less screen time? I may dislike Baemon's Music, but the live band, live vocals, and actually enjoying their stages? I can get behind that energy.
Number 2 is so real! Every group should have choreos that they can sing along to, otherwise what’s the point? These are not dance crews, they’re kpop groups who make music. Choreographies should never get in the way of singing.
I dance breaks are wonderful one doesn't have to always dance and sing at the same time. Song breaks allow for the artist to interact closer with the audience as well. There's room for it all sing and dance, lyric's only parts and dance breaks mix and match is the way to go it's far more interesting that way as well.
There’s a huge difference between idols who are just more popular than the other members and go viral more often (ive’s wonyoung, txt’s yeonjun, aespa’s karina) and idols who are clearly being pushed more than the other members (wooah’s nana, everglow’s mia, basically every ioi member in their post ioi groups) and Wonyoung is definitely someone who just happens to be super popular and go super viral on her own, without starship necessarily favoring her compared to the other girls (who by the way are all shining in their own solo activiites)
Wonyoung is in starship dungeon for more than 2 years (749 days) before finally she show up on a show solo, where the fucking favoritism? She has the least content on their sns for fuck sake.
The fact the ive members said recently they chosed their own outfits since longtime and hairstyle also if your bias have bad outfits for you..this is just their own style . Wonyoung love coquette and féminin style normal she wear amazing dress because she passioned by mode tho i remember the izone members said that 😅
I agree that both bang pd and min hee jin are shady people. Also i dont know whats going on but almost all lesserafims music videos have netizens writing some random conspiracy theories. They are overanalyzing every little thing even their group name. And illit is being dragged for every little thing at this point. I hope the girls are fine. I don't know why are people dragging the girls in this mhj and hybe drama. Critizing illit ane lesserafim for their vocals is fine but now it has just escalated to hate. I agree with all of your opinions. finally im just tried of hearing people whining about the favouritism towards wonyoung.
The way people have been spreading the wildest conspiracy theories because of that supposed hybe cult is insane. And yes, min heejin was extremely disgusting for namedropping all of those groups…unprofessionalism at its peak. I just hope the artists won’t be damaged too much, especially newjeans that seem to be in a very precarious state.
People like to see giants fall to an average level. Hybe's girlgroups have been pretty successful lately, so I guess many haters think that now is the right time to put a cap on their success.
Calling Min Hee Jin out isn’t a competition. You don’t have to present someone else as an antagonist. Most people just quit if they aren’t happy with their company. You don’t go after it and try to steal a huge chunk of it from them. That’s all people are saying. Doesn’t mean they “stan” HYBE or BHS. She is dragging all innocent young lives and she is weaponizing fandoms.
Yea I agree with that love dive 2.0 thingy actually it irks me that the ones who are complaining about not getting another version of love dive are dives too like I get it love dive is a great song which was a great hit even got soty and many more achievements but IVE has much more to deliver why there's need to be 2.0 when we already know the girls can do so much more which might be greater than love dive too in the future I'm so done with those people who always expects IVE to drop a lodi 2.0 every cb if they like lodi sm then they can watch the mv as much as they want it'll in fact help in increasing the views
Number 3 is so real like how can you excuse idols for not being able to do their jobs but normal workers can actually get fired if they slip up once? It's inexcusable as an idol that you can't sing, dance or perform like it's literally their jobs they get paid for doing that shit and their fans defend with horrible excuses it's acting insane
thank you thank you thank you. so many people either support min heejin or bang pd but NOBODY literally NOBODY says theyre both crap people who do the shadiest things for money and fame. I NEEED more people to see this!!!!!!!!!
or put in dance breaks so the artist have time to recovery a bit between songs went performing live in concerts that are going to last more then 30minutes.
Blackpink and most of 3rd gen and before like has always been good at easier-to-dance choreos and dance breaks. Nowadays, most 4th and 5th gen gg wants to cater to tiktok, so they have to make the moves difficult and "trendy" even if they know the idols cannot keep up well
@@user-mc4ju4r but not as much as trying to do hard choreo and sing at the same time. Not even BTS don't do hardcore all through every song while all singing at once and BTS are extremely fit far fitter with bigger lung capicity than most GG. It's one of the biggest reason they are doing so well in the military.
ngl with groups like babymonster and nmixx who initially had the worst debut songs to date would soon made it out to be a talented bunch and it’s great to see that their companies are finally properly putting their talents to good use
I hope the People trying give attention to all ive members solo schedules but wonyoung is born to shine even without artist under Starship or being kpop idol,she should shine in other path tho. They did always focus about her as favorite member when starship did rarely reposted her solo schedules even fashion week with miumiu..ive official account never reposted on X yet nobody care when yujin get most promo on X and solo schedules .Lucky wony have her fans promoted her better than her own company. Her cbar boycotted starship because she is mismanaged for them even she should bigger if she get true collab music or opportunities to shine in fashion and entertainment.AFTER 2 YEARS WONYOUNG GET SOLO GUEST IN VARIETY SHOW I REMEMBER THE FAKE DIVES SAID "WONYOUNG DONT LIKE VARIETY SHOW ALSO NORMAL SHE DECLINED OFFRE AND ISN'T FUN " WHEN WONYOUNG SAID IN A INTERVIEW SHE WANT TRYING VARIETY SHOW AND OTHER PROJET NO ONLY FASHION.. Wony have iconic and authentic personality also still talented hard worker even if she is overlooked because her visuels . She is funny and great songwriter ,wonyoung write feminist song but didn't get ton attention because the haters trying hard to make her as boring visuel with bad attitude when she have 6 yees carrers and known professionnel idol and get praised by staffs and seniors + fans also mega funny in variety show.
If artist can do both its the artists talent, don't give excuses, you don't need to worry if they don't like the artist or performance, people will not follow its that simple. Artists success lies in their talents.
1. AGREE, I HATE BOTH OF THEM 2. REALLLL 3. AGREE 4. FR LIKE LEAVE MY GIRLIES ALONE, THEY EAT EVERYTHING FR 5. REALLLLLLLLLLLLLL 6. LMAO BUT FR, I LOVE LOVE DIVE SM BUT THER OTHER SONGS SLAY TOO 7. I DONT KNOW HOW TO REACT TO THIS BECAUSE I AGREE BUT I DONT CARE ABOUT THE LINE DISTRIBUTIONS 8. I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS ONE-
Here’s what i think: both Min Heejin and Bang Sihyuk are shady people and neither of them is good, but bang pd is much more powerful (god only knows what kind of connections hybe has) and therefore i think he is more “dangerous” than her. I don’t how to put it but basically she’s just a random creative director who now has her reputation totally ruined, while he is the ceo of a company whose shady business can easily be swept under the rug, a company that can manipulate the public opinion like it’s nothing. Both are quite trashy people but i feel like she’s the lesser of two evils (this obviously doesn’t make her good but you get it)
What a nasty little hater you are. Bang PD is not trash. For heavens sake, he’s a huge success story having almost bankrupted himself to support his little company and BTS and turned it into an amazing enterprise. He loves BTS and they love him back. He seems like a generous, hardworking man dedicated to making music. Your comment is destructive and thoughtlessly mean. We all know Min has allegedly indulged in something shady. Hybe sure has contacts and connections, but that’s not illegal or shady. It’s called business 101. You want a lesson in shade? Look at your politicians. Think before you talk next time.
Here’s what I think, it would be better if you stopped thinking. You talk utter nonsense. It would be easy to ignore If it wasn’t so nasty, destructive and naive. We do know that Min alarmingly put on a PR stunt. We know a bit about her character now. She seems like a handful. We know Hybe is trying to manage it. End of story. How would you deal with it, oh wise one?
@@MoonstoneStarChaser Because you don't think Hybe put on a PR stunt? That's all they ever do and it's scary how y'all fall for it every time. They tried to make it seem like Heejin wanted to make Ador independent from Hybe when she said that was never her intention. She just got pissed because of some choices Hybe made and the moment she voiced her opinions Hybe divulged everything and tried to paint her as the one and only villain. She has made mistakes and is not a good person but stop kissing up to Bang Sihyuk and Hybe when they're just as bad. Let's think about gfriend and nuest disbandments, how they threw garam under the bus, all the payola they use...Hybe is shady as hell and so is bang pd.
Being “obsessed” with the youth hasn’t have to be weird or in a creepy way. Sometimes people reminisce of those days… a lot of artist see that way. Not everything has to have a weird connotation.
i think the trucks are less to make the company LISTEN to the message, and more to show the company you HAVE a message, if that makes sense. a lot of people send trucks with the assumption that the company doesn't care/won't read them, but they are aware that the truck is there. they know there's an issue that fans have. i feel like it's more to make them aware that the fans have something to say than to make them hear what the fans are saying. it doesn't mean that they will care tho, it depends on a lot of factors.
They beeeeeeen sending trucks to Hybe, solo stans send them all the time, its just another day at HYBE! Its really a waste of money, cant that money be put toward something really worthwhile? People are doing fundraisers to send these trucks!!! Come onnnnn!!!
sending trunks is stupid as they only achieve 2 things it cost the the protestor money plus it makes them look like silly little uneducated hate fill monsters.
Actually I agree, rap is prolly their only outstanding prowess, in fact their main vocalists are pretty much on bar with Nmixx's weakest vocalists and I noticed that most of the members are too stylistic to develop any further so most of them might just stagnate in the future.
Who said BSH is innocent, girl ? BSH and MHJ are both snakes. Snakes are fighting. One is using emotional narative digging company's closet to gain public sympathy. Digging out company's closet so that the whole public know is not a good thing to do. She makes a living from the company after all. Do you like your employee do that to you ?
you say they are both snakes but you only point out Min heejin especially when we all know that Hybe is doing its best to control the narrative around this situation. Interesting.....
the "wonyoung getting special treatment" argument in 2024 annoys me so much. wonyoung is a stan attractor, but the other girls are NOT wasting away unnoticed. they've each had their own charm since debut and now that they've had experience in the industry even more companies and audiences are focusing on them. tell me you don't keep up with ive without telling me you don't keep up with ive.
The way these people surely won’t even know about all the other members’ variety appearances or about Leeseo’s OST and Rei’s own youtube channel…they only pay attention to Wonyoung’s activities and scream about favoritism whenever she breathes 💀
I even feel like wonyoung is being “left” down sometimes for the others to shine. Like getting fewer lines and even she makes herself small to not outshine them.. as long as they are a healthy, happy gg. Why does it matter? They are all unique in their own way.
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Yes as wonyoung Stan since 2018..i feel that in ive ,i know she declined ton solo schedules for focus group schedules ..yet she get hate for shine when yujin and rei are the most promoted than her.
Wonyoung is obliged to loss her solo opportunities in important schedules in her carrer because the non fans never check ive solo schedules...they trying hard to hate wonyoung
Wonyoung do get activities that makes her more noticed to non fans. Like her being MC on Music Bank and many award shows. Wonyoung also was former IZ*ONE member. Like most people don’t keep up with every brand a random idol signs up with. Stuff like acting debut, year end collabs and MC stuff is what you notice. I don’t stan IVE, but I do see Wonyoung on some award being a MC. I think someone else from IVE also is a MC for Inkigayo now. Or is she from illit, I am not so sure.
Honestly, how are people even taking sides on the HYBE and Min Heejin situation. Both sides are messed up and have done shady things. The only ones we should support are the idols who were unfortunately dragged into this mess.
What has Hybe done that’s messed up? Specifically? Just because the haters cast non specific shade on Hybe , doesn’t mean it’s real. We know Min has messed up, big time. End of story. Good luck Hybe in weeding her out. Hybe is an incredible success story. Can’t be easy running a massive enterprise. Could you do it?
Hybe is going full corporate, putting quantity over quality, working with shady people like Scooter Braun and Min Hee-Jin, who apparently like to use minors as cash cows. How many of the current Hybe groups will last longer than 7 years? As a casual listener you might not care but as a fan you are emotionally attached to them. The more groups Hybe has the easier it becomes for them to replace groups once they cause any kind of trouble, become less profitable or make high demands for their next contract.
@@nehalilisays Let’s hope you don’t go into business for yourself. Haha. What a lot of twaddle, oh wise one.
@@MoonstoneStarChaser…. I’m going to assume you don’t work in business either and you’re also not an adult from your comment. Not only is this company working with known criminals mind you they’re working with someone who’s being investigated by the federal law in fucking America in their own country, this person has to flee to South Korea to work with them because he’s being under investigation by both federal government and the regular government because of his ties to shady ass people and for Illegally obtaining the rights to some of his artist work. This company also has an issue that fans and the Korean business people have pointed out. It’s not even just fans, but as people who work in the industry is pointed this out about the company that they lack proper training for some of their idols, and that they overwork some of their artist, they have a boy group that I’m a casual listener to since their debut which was about four years ago now they have not had one break. I mean, they have had a CD come out which takes several months to sit there and record and practice choreography for comeback, then went straight to touring which again during the time of them recording that album in the first place they were sitting there and practicing for choreographies for the tour and then come back to South Korea to have two weeks where they weren’t doing anything because they were recording another album because they have had four albums back to back along with having three tours back to back and they’re currently just finishing a tour and coming out with a new album.
Not overworking your artist I don’t know what the fuck is. That’s not even getting the fact that their biggest group that they’ve had to date the group that created them BTS has actually come out on more than than one occasion. Having talked about the direction of the company and how they don’t necessarily like it they have themselves complained about the pricing for things because they think it’s ridiculous how overpriced they have made certain objects that shouldn’t be over $100. They sat there and talked about the fact that they’ve been fighting with the company because of the fact that their vision of the music that they want to come out with and the Vision that the company is trying to push for them as a group is no longer aligned with one another but the only reason why they say is because they do have alliances with the other staff members and people who work there and they do have freedom to a certain degree. They have on multiple, interviews basically sat there and talked about how songs like butter and stuff were pushed by the company, but not to look forward to more songs like that because that’s not the type of music they want to come out with that’s not the message that they want to push, which basically is saying without blatantly coming out that them in the company no longer have the same vision when it comes to the music they want to come out with.
Everyone is aware of the fact that they have not been properly some of Their groups. That’s something that they’ve been called out for even in the Korean entertainment industry. I feel like that’s another thing that people keep overlooking who wanted to defend this company people who work in the same industry as them even people who are in like rival companies I’m talking people people and companies where they’re actually friendly with one another or even just people in the business side of entertainment, sat here and pointed out how this company has gotten really big really fast but they’re also cutting corners and making a lot of stupid business decisions ones that do not benefit them at the end of the day because of anything is going to either cause for the groups to not have longevity to be able to last longer than seven or so years but also it’s causing doubt for other businesses of people who wanna work with them like who’s going to wanna work with a company that hired a man who is being investigated for having ties to literal child and human trafficking rings who sat there and has, basically disappear from his own country because he’s being investigated for breaking federal laws we’re only aware of two of the federal law laws but there’s more than two charges against this man. Homegirl has fucked up and she definitely should pay for that if she did the crimes that the company has said that she’s done and she’s a bit of a fucking weirdo, but the shit that this corporation is doing is insane and the fact that it still has fans for defending the corporation at the end of the day, why are you defending the corporation who doesn’t give a shit about you you are nothing more than a dollar sign in their eyes. You should be caring about the artist and sometimes caring about the artist means not liking the fucking corporation that they’re signed to and wanting to see change there, and also clearly there is some kind of evidence to this company doing shady shit is just rumors of them being a part of stuff which mind you other companies such as cube entertainment, and JYP entertainment have also been accused of being pulled part of cults or having sat there and done like manipulation to the charts and stuff ironically enough, though neither one of those companies were actually actually sat there and investigated for those things first of all the companies put out their own things like they just went straight to the police and gave them all the information that they needed to show that they never manipulated any chart. The police didn’t have to investigate them for that shit not only that but they also sat there and we’re just like yeah no we’re not a part of any calls so they weren’t investigated for that either the fact that this company is actually still being investigated for both of those allegations sizzle about how muchpeople genuinely over there and South Korea think this company is shady and has been at least because even if those allegations aren’t true being investigated means that every part of this company is gonna be investigated because they genuinely probably think that there’s something that they’re hiding or trying to pretend isn’t going on and they will get to the bottom of it.
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"Why are they treating Inkigayo like Coachella?"
Sounds like someone is allergic to fun, energy, and could possibly use a bit more sunlight with less screen time?
I may dislike Baemon's Music, but the live band, live vocals, and actually enjoying their stages? I can get behind that energy.
Number 2 is so real! Every group should have choreos that they can sing along to, otherwise what’s the point? These are not dance crews, they’re kpop groups who make music. Choreographies should never get in the way of singing.
I dance breaks are wonderful one doesn't have to always dance and sing at the same time. Song breaks allow for the artist to interact closer with the audience as well. There's room for it all sing and dance, lyric's only parts and dance breaks mix and match is the way to go it's far more interesting that way as well.
There’s a huge difference between idols who are just more popular than the other members and go viral more often (ive’s wonyoung, txt’s yeonjun, aespa’s karina) and idols who are clearly being pushed more than the other members (wooah’s nana, everglow’s mia, basically every ioi member in their post ioi groups) and Wonyoung is definitely someone who just happens to be super popular and go super viral on her own, without starship necessarily favoring her compared to the other girls (who by the way are all shining in their own solo activiites)
4:25 Say it louder!
When I heard that "over perform" argument I could believe it, that's absurd!
Wonyoung is in starship dungeon for more than 2 years (749 days) before finally she show up on a show solo, where the fucking favoritism? She has the least content on their sns for fuck sake.
The fact the ive members said recently they chosed their own outfits since longtime and hairstyle also if your bias have bad outfits for you..this is just their own style .
Wonyoung love coquette and féminin style normal she wear amazing dress because she passioned by mode tho i remember the izone members said that 😅
is there a source for that statement? I'm surprised since it's usually the stylists that are in charge of hair/outfits...
I agree that both bang pd and min hee jin are shady people.
Also i dont know whats going on but almost all lesserafims music videos have netizens writing some random conspiracy theories. They are overanalyzing every little thing even their group name. And illit is being dragged for every little thing at this point. I hope the girls are fine.
I don't know why are people dragging the girls in this mhj and hybe drama. Critizing illit ane lesserafim for their vocals is fine but now it has just escalated to hate.
I agree with all of your opinions. finally im just tried of hearing people whining about the favouritism towards wonyoung.
The way people have been spreading the wildest conspiracy theories because of that supposed hybe cult is insane. And yes, min heejin was extremely disgusting for namedropping all of those groups…unprofessionalism at its peak. I just hope the artists won’t be damaged too much, especially newjeans that seem to be in a very precarious state.
People like to see giants fall to an average level. Hybe's girlgroups have been pretty successful lately, so I guess many haters think that now is the right time to put a cap on their success.
Calling Min Hee Jin out isn’t a competition. You don’t have to present someone else as an antagonist. Most people just quit if they aren’t happy with their company. You don’t go after it and try to steal a huge chunk of it from them.
That’s all people are saying. Doesn’t mean they “stan” HYBE or BHS.
She is dragging all innocent young lives and she is weaponizing fandoms.
Yea I agree with that love dive 2.0 thingy actually it irks me that the ones who are complaining about not getting another version of love dive are dives too like I get it love dive is a great song which was a great hit even got soty and many more achievements but IVE has much more to deliver why there's need to be 2.0 when we already know the girls can do so much more which might be greater than love dive too in the future I'm so done with those people who always expects IVE to drop a lodi 2.0 every cb if they like lodi sm then they can watch the mv as much as they want it'll in fact help in increasing the views
Number 3 is so real like how can you excuse idols for not being able to do their jobs but normal workers can actually get fired if they slip up once? It's inexcusable as an idol that you can't sing, dance or perform like it's literally their jobs they get paid for doing that shit and their fans defend with horrible excuses it's acting insane
Baby monster debuted in the wrong generation 😤 baby monsters performance should be the standard like wtf r ppl on
thank you thank you thank you. so many people either support min heejin or bang pd but NOBODY literally NOBODY says theyre both crap people who do the shadiest things for money and fame. I NEEED more people to see this!!!!!!!!!
Facts! Choreographers should make the choreography easier soo that idols can sing live
or put in dance breaks so the artist have time to recovery a bit between songs went performing live in concerts that are going to last more then 30minutes.
@@eileencritchley4630 it depends, dance breaks most of time take up a lot of energy
Blackpink and most of 3rd gen and before like has always been good at easier-to-dance choreos and dance breaks.
Nowadays, most 4th and 5th gen gg wants to cater to tiktok, so they have to make the moves difficult and "trendy" even if they know the idols cannot keep up well
@@user-mc4ju4r but not as much as trying to do hard choreo and sing at the same time. Not even BTS don't do hardcore all through every song while all singing at once and BTS are extremely fit far fitter with bigger lung capicity than most GG. It's one of the biggest reason they are doing so well in the military.
ngl with groups like babymonster and nmixx who initially had the worst debut songs to date would soon made it out to be a talented bunch and it’s great to see that their companies are finally properly putting their talents to good use
I 100 percent agree with the baby monster one
I hope the People trying give attention to all ive members solo schedules but wonyoung is born to shine even without artist under Starship or being kpop idol,she should shine in other path tho.
They did always focus about her as favorite member when starship did rarely reposted her solo schedules even fashion week with miumiu..ive official account never reposted on X yet nobody care when yujin get most promo on X and solo schedules .Lucky wony have her fans promoted her better than her own company.
Her cbar boycotted starship because she is mismanaged for them even she should bigger if she get true collab music or opportunities to shine in fashion and entertainment.AFTER 2 YEARS WONYOUNG GET SOLO GUEST IN VARIETY SHOW I REMEMBER THE FAKE DIVES SAID "WONYOUNG DONT LIKE VARIETY SHOW ALSO NORMAL SHE DECLINED OFFRE AND ISN'T FUN " WHEN WONYOUNG SAID IN A INTERVIEW SHE WANT TRYING VARIETY SHOW AND OTHER PROJET NO ONLY FASHION..
Wony have iconic and authentic personality also still talented hard worker even if she is overlooked because her visuels .
She is funny and great songwriter ,wonyoung write feminist song but didn't get ton attention because the haters trying hard to make her as boring visuel with bad attitude when she have 6 yees carrers and known professionnel idol and get praised by staffs and seniors + fans also mega funny in variety show.
If artist can do both its the artists talent, don't give excuses, you don't need to worry if they don't like the artist or performance, people will not follow its that simple. Artists success lies in their talents.
1. AGREE, I HATE BOTH OF THEM
2. REALLLL
3. AGREE
4. FR LIKE LEAVE MY GIRLIES ALONE, THEY EAT EVERYTHING FR
5. REALLLLLLLLLLLLLL
6. LMAO BUT FR, I LOVE LOVE DIVE SM BUT THER OTHER SONGS SLAY TOO
7. I DONT KNOW HOW TO REACT TO THIS BECAUSE I AGREE BUT I DONT CARE ABOUT THE LINE DISTRIBUTIONS
8. I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS ONE-
Here’s what i think: both Min Heejin and Bang Sihyuk are shady people and neither of them is good, but bang pd is much more powerful (god only knows what kind of connections hybe has) and therefore i think he is more “dangerous” than her.
I don’t how to put it but basically she’s just a random creative director who now has her reputation totally ruined, while he is the ceo of a company whose shady business can easily be swept under the rug, a company that can manipulate the public opinion like it’s nothing.
Both are quite trashy people but i feel like she’s the lesser of two evils (this obviously doesn’t make her good but you get it)
What a nasty little hater you are. Bang PD is not trash. For heavens sake, he’s a huge success story having almost bankrupted himself to support his little company and BTS and turned it into an amazing enterprise. He loves BTS and they love him back. He seems like a generous, hardworking man dedicated to making music. Your comment is destructive and thoughtlessly mean. We all know Min has allegedly indulged in something shady. Hybe sure has contacts and connections, but that’s not illegal or shady. It’s called business 101. You want a lesson in shade? Look at your politicians. Think before you talk next time.
Here’s what I think, it would be better if you stopped thinking. You talk utter nonsense. It would be easy to ignore If it wasn’t so nasty, destructive and naive. We do know that Min alarmingly put on a PR stunt. We know a bit about her character now. She seems like a handful. We know Hybe is trying to manage it. End of story. How would you deal with it, oh wise one?
@moonstonechaser ooooo a hybe stan...i didn't think I'd see one😀
@@MoonstoneStarChaser Because you don't think Hybe put on a PR stunt? That's all they ever do and it's scary how y'all fall for it every time. They tried to make it seem like Heejin wanted to make Ador independent from Hybe when she said that was never her intention. She just got pissed because of some choices Hybe made and the moment she voiced her opinions Hybe divulged everything and tried to paint her as the one and only villain. She has made mistakes and is not a good person but stop kissing up to Bang Sihyuk and Hybe when they're just as bad. Let's think about gfriend and nuest disbandments, how they threw garam under the bus, all the payola they use...Hybe is shady as hell and so is bang pd.
@@mitchierainbow7353 Oh very grown up. Enjoy your play lunch.
Being “obsessed” with the youth hasn’t have to be weird or in a creepy way. Sometimes people reminisce of those days… a lot of artist see that way. Not everything has to have a weird connotation.
It’s weird in her case..She has been obsessed with youth and giving minors inappropriate concepts ever since her SM days.
PREACH🙌
i think the trucks are less to make the company LISTEN to the message, and more to show the company you HAVE a message, if that makes sense. a lot of people send trucks with the assumption that the company doesn't care/won't read them, but they are aware that the truck is there. they know there's an issue that fans have. i feel like it's more to make them aware that the fans have something to say than to make them hear what the fans are saying. it doesn't mean that they will care tho, it depends on a lot of factors.
They beeeeeeen sending trucks to Hybe, solo stans send them all the time, its just another day at HYBE! Its really a waste of money, cant that money be put toward something really worthwhile? People are doing fundraisers to send these trucks!!! Come onnnnn!!!
sending trunks is stupid as they only achieve 2 things it cost the the protestor money plus it makes them look like silly little uneducated hate fill monsters.
7:37 I laughed so hard 😂😭
Lets be honest. What bm does are the basics. And yall gag over it pff
Actually I agree, rap is prolly their only outstanding prowess, in fact their main vocalists are pretty much on bar with Nmixx's weakest vocalists and I noticed that most of the members are too stylistic to develop any further so most of them might just stagnate in the future.
If only they were given good songs they be the top group. I’m sure one day they will and blow up tho
GIRL THIS IS FACTS💖🥰
The truck thing is so weird. Like, who started that? I’m so weirded out by the use of trucks??
Ur so real
Who said BSH is innocent, girl ? BSH and MHJ are both snakes. Snakes are fighting. One is using emotional narative digging company's closet to gain public sympathy. Digging out company's closet so that the whole public know is not a good thing to do. She makes a living from the company after all. Do you like your employee do that to you ?
you say they are both snakes but you only point out Min heejin especially when we all know that Hybe is doing its best to control the narrative around this situation. Interesting.....
Lmao i remember how international netizens loved and worshipped hybe so much while hating on YG, JYP
3:55 EXACTLY JENNIE LOL
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I love jennie but i agree
no, she has her moments but your lying of you say that she ALWAYS is lacking
fr hybe wants to make western like wth kpop is kpop not pop that's what the K is for why the hell are you so determined to be quirky
Off topic but illit CAN sing i think they improved they sound better than before