Karim Khan: ICC Under Pressure | Bigger Than Five
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
- Karim Khan, the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, sits down with Bigger than Five at the UNGA in New York to discuss the challenges facing the ICC in the pursuit of justice for the victims of war crimes in Gaza and around the world.
How much political pressure is the Court and its Prosecutor facing?
We ask the ICC Prosecutor on this week’s Bigger than Five
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They will not issue an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and if they do they will do when it is too late. I have lost my faith in both ICC and ICJ.
Shame!
Me to
Yup I think the same
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They issued an arrest warrant for Putin in less than 3 weeks.
Disgusting and shameful. Words and no action. No faith in UN ICC ICJ UNSC
The interviewer is right to question the double standards of the ICC and ICJ , especially the point about ICC usually only prosecuting African perpetrators of war crimes.
500%
WHY ALLAH 🕋 ISN'T SAVING PALESTINE 🇵🇸?
yeah almost all prosecuted are african leaders i was shocked when i saw the list the other day
@@Parshu94 ask him
This man is good and stable , the world must support the law or no one is accountable
People are not just suffering. They’re dying
@@faizaambah slowly which is way worse
Remember the threats from the West in May that he received. I guess he succumbed to their orders after 7 months and the warrants.
Why does my replies keep getting deleted
@@hanadmohamed7740you need say good things and no n word it's sensitive.
@@hanadmohamed7740 I don’t know what you have said to merit such censorship by YT, but I can only share my own experience. I am not “into” baiting people on YT. I prefer to offer up reasoned arguments support by publicly acknowledged facts and documentation; it makes no difference. It doesn’t contravene any of the platforms rules, yet it is censored only because it challenges the pro-Israel position.
If countries threaten the icc, then the leaders of those countries should also be the subject of arrest warrants.
Yes. Disturbing an investigation is a crime. Just ask the police.
Those judges should be held as accomplices to Israel's crimes.
Steady on man. You cannot pre-judge the outcome. Keep your powder try for the moment. The point to remember is that Karim Khan has asked for the warrants and it is the judges who will make the decision. I agree that it is taking too long, especially as Putin’s came rather speedily and furthermore the evidence is mounting by the day.
The time has passed brother.
I hoped they would at least do it in time for Rafah.
I was disappointed.
I hoped they would at least do it in time for West Bank.
I was disappointed again.
I hoped they would at least do it in time for Lebanon ground operation.
I have been disappointed yet again.
So now I've learnt from history and the process of repetition.
I expect nothing from them any more.
@@Touchlineteaser
Exactly, other is quick but Israel still investing 😂😂
They should be held responsible for not doing anything.They are all afraid .
@@blingbling2841 They will have to be stopped in their murderous rampage by military force!
I find your words very strong & just! It is heartbreaking what we see unfolding right in front of our eyes!
It is as if human rights don't mean anything anymore!💔
How did the ICC manage to issue arrests to Putin so quickly then?
@@helenab7390 clearly the ICC were able to move fast when it suited USA and western allies to call out Putin as a warmonger with imperial ambitions. But in the case of 🇮🇱 it is obvious that 🇺🇸 want to enable their warmonger proxy to pursue their own imperial project to expand territory in the ME, making it difficult for the ICC to function. The "rules based system" of 🇺🇸 only applies to their enemy states alone. Pure hypocrisy.
Consider ICC the West's puppet.
It took one year and three months after the invasion to issue warrants against Putin. A similar pace would entail warrants issued against Netanyahu and Gallant by December 2024. That's okay.
Western complicity
cuz of western hypocracy
Excellent interviewer who pushed the Prosecutor. His audience is not the world, its the victims suffering through injustice and crime.
Why was the Vampire not arrested when he came to New York.?
You mean the vampire Erdogan???
@@IsabellaCastile-y8y no the Genocidal psychopath baby killer Meleikovski
The empire Ur ass@@IsabellaCastile-y8y
vampires don't arrest vampires
@@IsabellaCastile-y8yno we mean vampire satanyahu
Dignified Gentleman doing his job in the best possible way. God bless him and give him the strength to do the right thing.
the journalists is amazing asking pertinent questions
It's been 4 and a half months. Hurry up already
This guy is a fraud he literally announced that he was bringing charges on Israel he did that on purpose just to give a heads up. Why announce the charges just bring them to the icc.
Excellent interview. Thanks to you both.
Karim Khan has done his job. The judges have to issue arrest warrant. Why are they holding up? Perhaps they are under pressure from USA. Netanyahu did ask USA to intervene .
Bla, Bla Bla without action! We don’t need you anymore!
Then stand up and go do something and don’t just write negative comments in the internet. What’s your responsibility
@@aamer631 Because people refuse to look at what countries are threatening the ICC, we were quick to sanction Russia but somehow Putin is following his actions by the books better than Israel is.
it takes long time becouse israel and germany and all country's have issued request to reinvestegate or something like that which delays the process, furthermore one of the three lawyers misterously resigned and the new rumenian lawyer needs time to get into the case... these beurocracity things take loooong time......
Thank you TRT. Necessary presentation we in America may never had seen.⚓️
No one should be above the law.
Great interviewer. Thanks.
Great interviewer, great questions, great persistence in getting answers.
We need action now MR. KHAN without delay
WE ARE WAITING!!!!
The interviewer speaks with the Irish brogue. The Irish know the bitter taste of British tyranny. One must admire her tenacity.
Is Israel and it's allies going to get away with this?
Unfortunately they probably will because US, UK et al clearly will not allow it to happen because it's their friends and ally Netanyahu involved and they themselves will also be have to be prosecuted for complicity.
Yes they will
They got away with Iraq and Afghanistan. Ofc they will.
@LightSaber12345 Remember the threats from the West in May that he received. I guess he succumbed to their orders after 7 months and the warrants.
Yes. We can see clearly how. With people like Karin KHAN in ICC it's going.
Karin KHAN only COULD name all the African country leaders who were arrested.
Not true - he named several people prosecuted and imprisoned from eastern Europe and the Bosnian crisis.
So long as they are implicated
@@qudsiaward *War of Bosnia
@@qudsiaward no, those were only prosecuted because they allied with Rusia
After 5 minutes I gave up. I have no patience to listen to this. People are dying for f's sake.
If you can’t stop and listen to those doing the job (regardless of how ineffective you think they are), you’ll never come near to the places they have been, to make the changes you want today. The world is not full of babies who get what they scream for.
Mr. Khan, I have dedicated my entire academic and professional career on the issue of “evidence” - what merits strong evidence, how it differs from subjective opinions, how to appraise evidence and how to apply evidence. I have applied the rigorous standardized process of ascertaining/evaluating/interpreting best available evidence to my own research and to the teaching of students. I agree the process should/ought to be careful and rigorous. Drawing valid/reliable conclusions are dependent on such rigorous. I doubt the processes used in law differ much. Data is data, one cannot allow contamination, or biasing effects (of which there are many) to distort verifiable truths. The analysis of data is complex.
Of course as we all know, there are clear criteria within international criminal law that sets out the determination of “probable” genocide. In addition, to determine culpability or direct causation to the heinous crime of genocide one must consider the concept of intentionality - that is to determine if the accused knew the crimes he/she committed would inflict direct irreparable harm to the victim and if the accused operated with malicious intent to cause the harm in advance (premeditated).
The host asked important questions. I was not strongly convinced Mr. Khan was as forthright as he could /should have been. It is insulting to hear the process takes time, I think we respect the rigorous nature of the process. But, seems there are biasing effects that must be exposed - otherwise any conclusions drawn are faulty. For example if there are pressures outside that exert/shape the outcome, the decisions will not be based on evidential truth.
@@faywarnock2311 With all due respect to your knowledge and experience in this field, but Karim Khan KC as the prosecutor could not (should not) offer commentary (let alone judgements) on the culpability of the perpetrators beyond indictment papers nor the judicial process. Otherwise he would be castigated as being biased and unfit for office by powerful forces seeking to oust him. The delay in the ICC decision is entirely down to the judges, their integrity and stamina to withstand threats and pressure in upholding international law.
The evidence, in this case, is clear from the mouth of the beholder and the many many clear videos uploaded by the criminals themselves, on top of all this the occupiers have no right whatsoever,
Do the Nazis have the right to defend themselves? Were the allies resistant to terrorism?
Netanyahu clearly said no Palestinian state under his watch regardless of what the whole world said including the hypocrites, isn't this clear evidence of his intent?
@@UK-Conscience thank you - and yes, assuming the entire process is free of bias and contamination- it will come down to the integrity and courage of the three judges. But, why place the judges in such potential life threatening circumstances? Why let them carry such a heavy burden of responsibility? Why would the ICC not have safeguards to protect their judges? Why would the judges be forced to “fly on their own”?
If there are forces placing undue pressure on the judges then it is no longer an issue of evidential procedures and processes. Rather, it is an issue of our global responsibility in protecting truth and in protecting the defenders of truth.
@@faywarnock2311 You cannot safely assume that "the entire process is free of bias and contamination". The previous ICC Chief Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda was threatened in 2021 by 🇮🇱 intelligence agency to drop war crimes probe with full backing from 🇺🇸& 🇬🇧 (pls google details). The hypocritical West forces international judges to "fly on their own" when it suits them, unlike in the case of Putin of Russia. Hence definitely an "issue of global responsibility" which you are witnessing at the UN but blocked by the usual suspects of the West.
@@faywarnock2311 can't safely assume that "the entire process is free of bias and contamination". The previous ICC Chief Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda was threatened in 2021 by 🇮🇱 intelligence agency to drop war crimes probe (pls google details) with full backing from 🇺🇸& 🇬🇧. The hypocritical West forces international judges to "fly on their own" when it suits them, unlike in the case of Putin of Russia. Hence definitely an "issue of global responsibility" which we're all witnessing at the UN but blocked by the usual suspects of the west.
The UNSC should be abolished, and all issues should be addressed directly by the UNGA, eliminating veto power for any state. Decisions should be made through UNGA votes, with the ICJ serving as a legal resource. This restructuring would ensure a more democratic and fair approach to global governance, free from the undue influence of powerful nations. It is imperative that the UN evolves to meet the challenges of our time and uphold the principles of justice and equality for all.
The veto exists because the US demanded it, threatening to have nothing to do with the UN and to dedicate resources to undermining it otherwise.
UK, Russia and China likely held similar positions.
It's absolutely indefensible, but unless the rest of the world is willing to come together and say 'no more, or we disband the UN', nothing will happen to it.
right on!!!!!!!!!
I love this reporter. She is very incisive. Congrats.
I think the comments are a bit too harsh on Karim, criticize the judges all you want, but it's not his fault the ICC is taking this long, he presented the evidence ages ago, it's the judges decision to issue the warrants, not his.
Congratulations to the constant worthy questions TRT interviewer insisted asking. I respect your person highly TRT .
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We all know who was threatening him.
Khan this is you your opportunity to prove word JUSTICE I applaud the interviewer thank you .
Wouldn't count on khan's help. Interview showed his just a mouthpiece. All talk no action.
Why does BBC FOX CNN not be willing to do such an interview???
Mr. Karim, thank you for fighting for the Palestinians and don't let a couple of people who support genocide scare you .
Brave journalist!!!!
Why haven't the arrest warrants for Nutenyahu and Gallant been issued?
Because all they're good at is talking! 😡 ffs, all a bunch of cowards scared of the devil Netanyahu
What an interview
Thank you Karim Khan ❤
Arrest Netanyahu as soon as possible.
TRT thank you for the interview. Unfortunately, Karim Khan is an empty shell that destroys international law.
These judges should be held in contempt and prosecuted as well.
Good questions madam 🎉🎉🎉🎉
He did notify the public of his decision before putting it to the members to decide - it was noted that this might have been deliberate, as it gave States the possibility to intervene and potentially threaten them.
A+ for the interviewer!
It's time to get ridd off veto power for good.
All talk no action.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Thank You very much! It’s very informative.
*The interviewer was quite good at challenging Karim Khan.*
Interview the Judges not him
More men as Mr. Khan and the world would be a better place.
I understand that the judges are under tremendous, indescribable pressure and likely are facing serious threats and blackmail possibly concerning also those close to them. However, the principles of international law and faith of people in the law are at very stake here. Personally, I am on the brink of loosing faith in ICC and ICJ. If arrest warrants for the monstrous Nut and his crime partner are not issued withing the near future, I will have to declare that justice has been murdered in Gaza, bleed out and buried under the ruble.
Maybe the judges arent above bribery 😮
What is the delay?? I'm checking often and hardly any media is covering the time this is taking.
How long did it take for Putin? 🇵🇸🏴
Less than 3 weeks
Great interview!
There _has been_ colonialism? *So what is happening right now if not colonialism* ???
Some states like the United States Of America is immune from their accountability 💯
Mr. Khan, stand your man!
Unfortunately even the international courts have double standards.
Actions speak louder than words
Boycott UN ICC WHO
"There is no statute of limitations for war crimes."
To be fair the prosecutor cannot say when an order would be issued and what it will be.
Mr Karim changed the language
Protecting the IMPERIALSM & colonialism
Especially the complicit Journalists. They must not escape accountability.
Free the Palestine people's 🇵🇸
We are waiting for justice from Allah subhana waatallah.
Free Palestinian 🇦🇪 🇦🇪 🇦🇪 🇦🇪
17:54 he is so right. Everyone criticises UN or ICC, but the truth is - they are as strong as states allow them to be. All the states are so quick with platitudes, but when question comes up to them - let's abolish veto in the UN, let's create an army of the UN, let's sign some treaty that limits you, let's uphold a treaty that you signed - and suddenly, silence
How did the ICC issue arrest warrants for Putin when Ukraine isn't a member of ICC.
Because Ukraine accepted jurisdiction of the ICC in 2014.
There is no justification and NO accountability.
“All are equal, but as they say some are more equal than others.”
What's the hold up in issuing arrest warrants?
Thank you for the interview shedding light on truth and the complicated process.
Colonialism is still here.
Very good questioning. Selective laws that applies only to enemies of the super powers
Why are so many critical of Karim Khan? Khan has done the job by seeking an arrest warrant from the court. He is the only prosecutor in ICCs history who has requested such arrests for Israeli leaders, and is helping to break up a practice that has previously given Western countries special advantages.
Moreover, the fact that he announced in advance that he intends to issue an arrest warrant is only a positive. He has indirectly informed the media and the world that it is the judges of the ICC who are responsible for making progress in the case and holding the Israeli leaders accountable for their criminal actions. If the media do their part, they should focus on why the judges are taking so long to rule on Khan's request and whether there is anyone on the judging panel who may be influenced by Western interests. Khan has done everything correctly, within his scope. It is reassuring that we have at least one person in the ICC system who is concerned with genuine justice and equality before the law.
Mr. Khan is a clear soul. He will truly exercise his office as a judge.
This UK prosecutor was dragging his feet on investigations about Palestine before Oct 7. It was under huge pressure that he finally made a move. But when he requested an arrest warrant for Netaneyahu, he made a press conference about it - an unconventional move, unlike how he handled the case of Russia. This attracted huge attention - including that of Western politicians. Then UK and other governments interfered to stall the actual issuance of the warrants; Amercan politicians threatened sanctions on judges. Five months on the ICC is still considering whether to arrest Netaneyahu. I don't trust this man at all.
He is not honest I do not trust him to do the right thing. Words mean nothing without action. People are being murdered children are being slaughtered and yet they continue with their games of politics. Disgraceful the lot of them. They should never be forgotten in history and their complicity in genocide of babies children women should never be forgotten rather they shouldbe known only by this failure to protect the very people they swore to protect.
All African countries have been charged without question
Everyone is passing the buck wasting valuable time.
It's hard and tough to watch and listen to this video. It's hart broken video.
World needs awakening. Evil is marching forward.
Thank you for asking the important questions.
Hamas? Palestinians have been under occupation for 75 years by Israel.....an Occupied people have the right to respond to the aggressors ie Israel~
Excellente journaliste ! Qui est-ce ?
If ICC doesn’t issue warrants for arrest for Netanyahu by end of year, best for African countries to withdraw from the ICC and create a new court based in Africa.
People are not suffering..Mister...People are dying alive for God sake!
1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Haifa Massacre 1938
4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1939
6. Haifa Massacre 1947
7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
12. Jaffa Massacre 1948
13. Deir Yassin Massacre 1948
14. Qibya Massacre 1953
15. Khan Yunis Massacre
16. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
17. Sabra and Shatila Massacre
18. Deir Yassin Massacre 1948
19. Qibya Massacre 1953
20. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
21. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
22. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
23. Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990
24. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
25. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
26. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
27. Gaza Massacre 2012
28. Gaza Massacre 2014
29. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
30. Gaza Massacre 2021
Massacres of Jews and there were more ( Hebron 1929, etc./ you have forgotten.
Karim is clearly just a frontman.
HE HAS ATTITUDE. I can see he is the a true western puppet
Justice delayed is justice denied and the time its taken to get here is indeed an injustice. Ghida Fakhry presented a very competent interview but Khan was rather disappointing.
He repeatedly avoids the question concerning Israel and turns the answer in another direction (Russia, Serbia, Sudan, etc.).
Very sad Very hard to get justice ⚖️
The UN gave upon the rule of law when it took no action against Israel who were supporting the expansion of settlements in the West Bank and took not enough action when Russia invaded Ukrain and occuptied Crimea. The crisis which is leading us towards world war 3 is the result of UN inaction. UN is going the same way as the League of Nations which preceded it.
18:44 we knew you don't have armies, all you have to do is to issue the arrest warrant
14:30 : the allegations are not ending ,they are "continuing" :
what exactly does this mean ? will the ICC wait until all the "alleged" crimes are finished first in order for them to reach a verdict ? even if only *ONE* war-crime(minimum requirements) has been "verified" that was commited ,isn't this enough ? will the ICC wait for the ALL the "alleged" war-crimes to finish first ... *whenever* they finish ...in order to reach a verdict later ?
Russia is also "continuing" to do their "alleged" work ,but this didn't stopped the verdict for Russia's leadership !!
For 80 years (almost) you educating Palestine 🇵🇸......how they should " seat still and wait to day "
Shame on you.....educated poor little man....
The judges are running down the clock … criminal
I never hear you calling Obama, Bush, Blair, David Cameron, Joe Biden, Sarkozy etc.
The TRT journalist did an excellent job of trying to pin Mr. Khan down, especially on the issue of time. Why is justice taking so long? Most informed world citizens suspect the Court, after all, is very political indeed.
this is the kind of man we need as leader: loyal and ethic
Thanks Trt World