@@jeffe2267 I believe they added afterwards (they hearted my initial comment), also it wasn't so much for them, as other people watching the video who may not have know
Another nice thing about Karn is that it can get you an artifact from exile. So even if you exiled something important with Chiss-Goria, or the clock got exiled somehow, you can get it back 😊
Gotta be honest, it feels incredibly nice to see a 50 minute deck tech on my favourite commander deck of all time show up on my youtube. The tips, tricks and strategies given here are fantastic and always a plus to other fellow dwarf afficionados : p Also, happy birthday, Cam 🎉
Another thing that alot of people don't realize with karn TGC is that you are able to pull artifacts out of exile with him. so if you get portable hole'd or just hit with some form of exile removal you can have karn come down and pull that card back to your hand to re-use.
I LOVE Magda as a deck. I haven't gotten into CEDH but if I do I will be playing Magda. Part of my favorite things about commander decks is the flavor, and I think a lot of CEDH decks loose that (Just like grixis good stuff), but Magda still feels flavorful while being good. Happy birthday Cam!
I mean, yeah, some of the decks in the format are “3 color piles” or “4 color piles” but that just IS their identity. One of the very many unique strategies you can run with is to grab a commander or two and just run the best cards in the format. Najeela has mostly turned into that. But, one, most of the decks in the format are not that, and two, even the ones that are kind of like that still play cards that specifically synergize w the commander(s). Look at Rog Silas. It looks like just a Grixis pile but most of the lists have started running ways to weaponize wheels (which isn’t all that common) and they play springleaf drum and other versions of that card and like infernal plunge, mox ruby.. I mean amber that don’t show up all that often. And so on. These are just the “good stuff plans” look at Tyamn and Malcolm Kediss, Bruse Thrassios, Magda, Dargo x, Atraxa, Rocco, I mean these are real decks and they don’t have that much overlap. If you want to play cedh and don’t want to do what everyone else is doing it’s actually pretty easy. The format is so diverse their really isn’t anything everyone is doing. Was Thassa’s Oracle or breach in any of the decks I listed? You look at the results from a big cedh tourney and you’ll find like 12 totally unique decks and maybe a couple lists w the same commanders. Imagine, that isn’t Friday night magic, that’s a real event. Cedh has a totally diverse meta. You’ll love it. Jump on in and Magda is a fantastic place to start 🖖namaste
Love Magda, and honestly it feels difficult to make it not make it super competitive. Obviously you can take out the clock/art dwarf combo and you can remove dockside but it still feels super strong to just cheat out dragons and blightsteel at instant speed lol. Also, consider Inferno of the Star Mounts as an extra little dragon. Hastey and has an nasty pump, could be a nice out. I just think it’s cool lol
@@verdelger If you want de-CEDH it you just focus on making treasures and cheating out scary artifacts and dragons like Blightsteel, bale fire, scourge of the throne portal to Phyrexia etc. it kind of becomes a big stompy deck, but still very potent because you tutor at instant speed. You can do some treasure victory synergies or big mana stuff too.
@@LouisKing995 thank you so much for your fast response. I do indeed look for a strong EDH not cEDH deck. That’s what most of my friends are playing. Definitely gonna try out your tips and good to hear Magda without stuff like clock of omen can still be a strong commander.
@@verdelger Yeah you definitely don’t need to go infinite for Magda to be potent in casual. In a high power but not CEDH build you can focus on some more dwarf cards like 7 dwarves etc. your focus can be generating large amounts of treasures instead of infinite treasures and you can even still use things like treasure burn, you just won’t go infinite with it. You can also do a modular Magda deck where you have a huge stack of scary artifacts/dragons/artefact creatures separate from the rest of your deck. And you let your opponents choose (before the game starts) a set amount at random (they don’t see what the cards are ofc). And you add those to your deck. Then you don’t know what your big scary targets are when you start then game and it becomes a surprise.
Hi, really love your deck tech guys. In my magda list i've also included a one drop enchantement which is called 'sticky fingers'. He really makes value in the early turns
I've just built a budget version of Magda and a card I really like in the deck is Swiftgear Drake from brothers war. It's a 2/4 artifact creature with Flying and Haste that has an etb to put up to one card from a graveyard on the bottom of its owner's library. It can be brought in with Magda since it's an artifact to stop someone potential win and I have used to it put clock of omens back in my deck after it got countered when I had to hard cast it one game. I think the biggest downside is that it's 5 mana if you are hard casting it.
2 things 1) Happy birthday Cam 2) I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with Dylan's mic bc every time he talks after a certain point, 6:40 ish, there was a high pitched noise, making it hard to listen to. Love the deck tech otherwise
Hey guys, Dylan's mic has this really high pitched tone that it plays whenever it records? Plays? Idk but if you turn your volume up you can hear it, its been in a few videos
Love anything Magda related. Cam out of curiosity, have you considered Mines of Moria as a utility land? With how little recursion the list usually runs once stuff is in the gy its pretty much just there, so you have something to do with free mana to create some extra treasures to grind out a longer game. The tapped unless you have a legendary creature out can be a bit rough but considering the main premise of the deck is to have Magda out as often as possible, and residual benefits if the monkey or Chiss is out, could maybe be beneficial. Also sidebar, having a dwarf deck without the mines almost feels sacrilegious.
just having talked about Clown Car with the flavour Text "this runs on laughing gas" and then saying "we just talked about a lot of gas" was unintentionally funny
Hey I know Im a scrub for life because of this but I've included Shenanigans in my list because its repeatable removal with Liquimetal Torque/Coating and in our staxy games it can crack open whatever holding you down. Great video love you guys.
A few things: 1) the one ring protection is on cast. Magda search for the 1 ring won't get the protection. 2) cursed mirror can win off an opponents dockside if you net enough treasures 3) utvara and maskwood is a amazing synergy. 4) bloodboiler can tap itself with its own ability the turn it comes out even though it has summoning sickness. 5) magda is awesome
Very cool deck tech! The choice I'm surprised by is Wild Magic Surge over Chaos Warp. The cheaper cost is great but I woukd regularly WMS one stax piece into another. Is it because only a narrow set of stax really effects Magda?
Happy Birthday Cam, as a fellow Magda enjoyer I loved the episode! There's a few cards you're not running in your Magda list im curious about why not namely -Ancient Tomb (We run a bunch of artifacts and big dumb dragons) -Sculpting Steel (Copies a second stax piece / Portal to Phyrexia / etc.) -Axgard Cavalry (Best 2 Drop Dwarf) -Grafdigger's Cage (Anti-Kinnan Tech, you have Spine so you can just spine it away after infinite treasures) -Sokenzan (Incredibly low opportunity cost, can be useful with Maskwood) -Delayed Blast Fireball
Happy birthday Cam! I originally wanted to build Magda because 1. I love the dwarves, dragons, and artifacts, 2. Never built a mono color commander deck, and 3. Love all the stuff it does on the stack. 2 friends I play with regularly built it first though, so I never built it. Maybe I'll borrow it from them.
yeah I feel you, I avoid building the same decks as people I know I'll be playing with regularly. I mean there are countless options for commanders nowadays, might as well have some variety at the table. Still I love my Magda, I would totally recommend it.
This might be my budget deck building brain speaking but using Reckless Handling might not be as good as tutoring for dockside but it lets you get any of your artifact dwarfs to start your combos or any piece to turn magda into a dork and potentially lets you turn artifacts drawn and not tutored into potential damage to the table. To me the fact that it gets your Universal Automaton which is the best way to get going in most cases makes it worth running since it also has flexibility to go get your stax pieces since you can be casting those and potentially not using magda's tutor for them. At least in this kinda turbo variant.
Been playing edeh for awhlle thinking of Magda my first cdeh deck 🤔 any thought plus i dont want to spend all my money, hahah you guys explained the wins cons very well 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I feel like we could revisit this commander even now with more to say considering at least one Magda pilot has been in most top 8s or even winning multiple tournaments in the last few months. Deck is strong and imo one of the more complex combo decks giving both experienced and inexperienced players trouble alike. Even in a post bowmasters world the deck is surprisingly versatile and explosive without needing to cast too many spells to win, and there's just so many lines they can use. Seriously, looking at the community primer for this deck is like reading a book they can combo so many different ways.
Amazing podcast as always. I want to give a piece of info I recently found. It is Academy ManuFACTOR. Not manufacturer. Who knew? And now I can't unsee it and if I hear it incorrectly, it's driving me crazy. I wish they errata this.
I have a question. With a Magda player at the table I usually try to use a Praetor’s Grasp, if I’m in black, to exile the Clock of Omens from their deck with no intention of playing it. I would like to know… how would you recover from that combo piece being out of reach? What’s the plan b in this deck for you?
I was thinking that Mycosynth Lattice would be a good add, since you have Karn. That being said, you can always grab it from outside the game using Karn's -2 to grab it. My pod hates when I play Karn for that reason.
Are you still playing Magda? Roaming Throne is a new include that is perfect for Magda. Artifact Dwarf that's hard to remove and doubles Magdas triggered ability
This has nothing to do with Play to Win but this is the first video I’ve seen since my debate w a fellow poker nerd about mtg vs chess. Home boy was relentless in his proclamation that Chess is more complex than mtg. I told him chess isn’t even as complex as poker which he also disagreed w but I focused on cedh, which he said he plays occasionally. This is a COMPLETE joke to me but I want to put it to the readers and maybe the play to win crew.. Chess vs Cedh, which is the more complex game? My last question to the guy was this; How well would you do at chess against a computer? How well can even the best human do against a computer? Now show me the computer that can play cedh. It might happen in our lifetimes but the shit ain’t happening now. Right? Cedh is, in my view, the most complex game that the general masses can actually play. I think cedh is the limit case for enjoyable nuance and complexity for most people. Would love to hear thoughts on this or even just “agree” or “disagree” #MagdaSlaps Great video
bloodboiler pumps ANY creature. i usually use it on my opponents attacks. its a great political tool in that regard. you'd be surprised how often an attack is swayed on "it'll deal 6 more if you hit him instead"
How are you feeling about the new Gimli? I feel like you mentioned it in the LOTR podcast but can't remember what you thought. It feels pretty good to make three mana off of one dwork.
Would Duplicant and Meteor Golem be good alternatives to Spine of Ish Sah? If the "returning" thing is not used, then maybe it would be better to have a body on the field or, if the problem is a creature, to exile it?
While the one ring is a cast trigger so it isn't going to protect you from a magda tutor, I feel like you still really want it because it'll do stupid shit with clock of omens. Like bare minimum it'll fill your grip real quick whether you have magda in play or not.
You don't need an outlet for Magda, there's a million mini combos you can run that effectively wins without running any dead cards, Welder + Spine to destroy all permanent and then slap all stax pieces left in the deck into play and pass turn for example.
the second hand plays sol ring turn two into magda into unlicenced hearse off the treasure. Then turn 3 you can play out maskwood and starn churning out dwarves. Also at that point the crewed vehicle will be another dwarf that'll get sizable pretty soon. I feel like this is a keep
I really think you should avoid playing Madga on turn 1, it's a big gamble with no real payout. Better just cast a 1 mana dwarf on turn 1, and on turn 2 net a treasure when you play the Magda.
It looks like Red Elemental Blast would be better in the list than Pyroblast. It's s a bit of a niche scenario where the difference matters, but REB can only have it target changed with something like a Deflecting Swat if there's another Blue target whereas Pyroblast can legally target anything. Without any Storm synergy the only real difference is that REB will always go 1 for 1 when its target is changed and Pyroblast only will when it's in the Deflecting Swat player's advantage.
I played a 1v1 casual game against my friend a couple of weeks ago. Magda ended up costing him 12 mana in the end just because I had to keep removing her.
I'm surprised gimli didn't come up. He's not as good as face-breaker, but he seems like an honorable mention at least considering he's at least a dwarf.
For the hand at about 46:00 Would going cavern, sol ring, hearse T1 into T2 magda and be able to tap her instantly and play and tap second dwarf as well be worth it or still a mull?
46:03 quite suprised u dont keep a hand with turn 1 hearse and turn 2 magda and bloodfire dwarf u get 2 treasure each rotation without attacking and if u have 5 treasure cause nexus find dockside with curio in hand?
na i did dragon storm 😂 its epic all you need is tje one dragon that when a dragon enters the battlefield it deals x dmg equal to its power to any target. then just keep sacing 5 treasure and pulling out dragons lol
Why does everyone run Spine of Ish over Meteor Golem? Legitimate question, not criticism. If returning to hand isn’t usually relevant text, I feel like being an artifact creature that becomes a dwarf with Maskwood would matter more
After thinking about it, I now know why. Most hatebears that stop ETB effects only hit creatures. Hushwing, Hushbringer, Torpor Orb, Tocatli Honor Guard, etc.
Great tech you guys. Would you say that Magda is a good starter for someone trying to get into cEDH?? And is There and Back Again too slow for the format in this deck??
I dunno, it involves a lot of decision making since you are tutoring. The main win line is simple enough but there’ll be plenty of times where you need to make a tactical choice about what piece to grab to stabilise/disrupt other people. But that might actually be a good thing! Practice that stuff right off the bat lol.
Just as a reminder, The One Ring's ETB effect only happens "if you cast it" instant speed tutor without casting it will not give you protection.
i have been screaming this during their convo about it
I literally came to the comments section just to make sure someone mentioned this 😂
Just to give Dylan and Cam some credit, they do put that in the subtitle in the video itself, at least.
It's in the video already, no need to give them "just a reminder".
@@jeffe2267 I believe they added afterwards (they hearted my initial comment), also it wasn't so much for them, as other people watching the video who may not have know
Next podcast: How good is Yisan in cEDH? It's just an hour of Dylan going "I think this is good 🤷" and Cam laughing at him.
Happy Birthday Cam! You two are some of the best creators out there and I love your vibe! Here’s to many more years of great cEDH fun!
Another nice thing about Karn is that it can get you an artifact from exile. So even if you exiled something important with Chiss-Goria, or the clock got exiled somehow, you can get it back 😊
Happy birthday Cam! Love the deck tech as well 🔥
Thank you!
Gotta be honest, it feels incredibly nice to see a 50 minute deck tech on my favourite commander deck of all time show up on my youtube. The tips, tricks and strategies given here are fantastic and always a plus to other fellow dwarf afficionados : p
Also, happy birthday, Cam 🎉
Happy birthday Cam! Magda has been a cEDH deck that has interested me a ton and it's awesome hearing and expert talk about it!
Another thing that alot of people don't realize with karn TGC is that you are able to pull artifacts out of exile with him. so if you get portable hole'd or just hit with some form of exile removal you can have karn come down and pull that card back to your hand to re-use.
I LOVE Magda as a deck. I haven't gotten into CEDH but if I do I will be playing Magda. Part of my favorite things about commander decks is the flavor, and I think a lot of CEDH decks loose that (Just like grixis good stuff), but Magda still feels flavorful while being good.
Happy birthday Cam!
I mean, yeah, some of the decks in the format are “3 color piles” or “4 color piles” but that just IS their identity. One of the very many unique strategies you can run with is to grab a commander or two and just run the best cards in the format. Najeela has mostly turned into that. But, one, most of the decks in the format are not that, and two, even the ones that are kind of like that still play cards that specifically synergize w the commander(s).
Look at Rog Silas. It looks like just a Grixis pile but most of the lists have started running ways to weaponize wheels (which isn’t all that common) and they play springleaf drum and other versions of that card and like infernal plunge, mox ruby.. I mean amber that don’t show up all that often. And so on. These are just the “good stuff plans” look at Tyamn and Malcolm Kediss, Bruse Thrassios, Magda, Dargo x, Atraxa, Rocco, I mean these are real decks and they don’t have that much overlap. If you want to play cedh and don’t want to do what everyone else is doing it’s actually pretty easy. The format is so diverse their really isn’t anything everyone is doing. Was Thassa’s Oracle or breach in any of the decks I listed?
You look at the results from a big cedh tourney and you’ll find like 12 totally unique decks and maybe a couple lists w the same commanders. Imagine, that isn’t Friday night magic, that’s a real event. Cedh has a totally diverse meta. You’ll love it. Jump on in and Magda is a fantastic place to start
🖖namaste
Love Magda, and honestly it feels difficult to make it not make it super competitive. Obviously you can take out the clock/art dwarf combo and you can remove dockside but it still feels super strong to just cheat out dragons and blightsteel at instant speed lol.
Also, consider Inferno of the Star Mounts as an extra little dragon. Hastey and has an nasty pump, could be a nice out. I just think it’s cool lol
What cards do you remove if you don't want to play clock combo? And what are the replacements?
@@verdelger If you want de-CEDH it you just focus on making treasures and cheating out scary artifacts and dragons like Blightsteel, bale fire, scourge of the throne portal to Phyrexia etc. it kind of becomes a big stompy deck, but still very potent because you tutor at instant speed. You can do some treasure victory synergies or big mana stuff too.
@@LouisKing995 thank you so much for your fast response. I do indeed look for a strong EDH not cEDH deck. That’s what most of my friends are playing. Definitely gonna try out your tips and good to hear Magda without stuff like clock of omen can still be a strong commander.
@@verdelger Yeah you definitely don’t need to go infinite for Magda to be potent in casual. In a high power but not CEDH build you can focus on some more dwarf cards like 7 dwarves etc. your focus can be generating large amounts of treasures instead of infinite treasures and you can even still use things like treasure burn, you just won’t go infinite with it. You can also do a modular Magda deck where you have a huge stack of scary artifacts/dragons/artefact creatures separate from the rest of your deck. And you let your opponents choose (before the game starts) a set amount at random (they don’t see what the cards are ofc). And you add those to your deck. Then you don’t know what your big scary targets are when you start then game and it becomes a surprise.
Hi, really love your deck tech guys. In my magda list i've also included a one drop enchantement which is called 'sticky fingers'. He really makes value in the early turns
Best youtube channel for gold fishing and deck building to! Been binging the channel this whole summer
Mirror of Fate has saved me a couple bad games. Fun times.
I've just built a budget version of Magda and a card I really like in the deck is Swiftgear Drake from brothers war. It's a 2/4 artifact creature with Flying and Haste that has an etb to put up to one card from a graveyard on the bottom of its owner's library. It can be brought in with Magda since it's an artifact to stop someone potential win and I have used to it put clock of omens back in my deck after it got countered when I had to hard cast it one game. I think the biggest downside is that it's 5 mana if you are hard casting it.
2 things
1) Happy birthday Cam
2) I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with Dylan's mic bc every time he talks after a certain point, 6:40 ish, there was a high pitched noise, making it hard to listen to.
Love the deck tech otherwise
Hey guys, Dylan's mic has this really high pitched tone that it plays whenever it records? Plays? Idk but if you turn your volume up you can hear it, its been in a few videos
Love anything Magda related. Cam out of curiosity, have you considered Mines of Moria as a utility land? With how little recursion the list usually runs once stuff is in the gy its pretty much just there, so you have something to do with free mana to create some extra treasures to grind out a longer game. The tapped unless you have a legendary creature out can be a bit rough but considering the main premise of the deck is to have Magda out as often as possible, and residual benefits if the monkey or Chiss is out, could maybe be beneficial. Also sidebar, having a dwarf deck without the mines almost feels sacrilegious.
Some people play elixir of life, tutorable and instant speed shuffle your gym into your library
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! And the answer to the question is probably really fast, but not as resilient as kinnan
Gents, any chance you will update this Magda deck with or without video now, 9 months later?:)
I brought my magda deck to a "fast decks" lgs. I was informed that the deck was infact too fast.
I don't care how good she is. It's my first deck and I don't plan to play anything else. I love my dragon girl ❤
just having talked about Clown Car with the flavour Text "this runs on laughing gas" and then saying "we just talked about a lot of gas" was unintentionally funny
Happy Birthday Cam! May your Magda win the next X games where X is your age!
You guys are the most enjoyable and entertaining cEDH content creators on UA-cam
So many good new magda cards has came out. New dragons, new magda wich owns etc! We want more!
Hey I know Im a scrub for life because of this but I've included Shenanigans in my list because its repeatable removal with Liquimetal Torque/Coating and in our staxy games it can crack open whatever holding you down. Great video love you guys.
A few things:
1) the one ring protection is on cast. Magda search for the 1 ring won't get the protection.
2) cursed mirror can win off an opponents dockside if you net enough treasures
3) utvara and maskwood is a amazing synergy.
4) bloodboiler can tap itself with its own ability the turn it comes out even though it has summoning sickness.
5) magda is awesome
really cool deck tech! what do you guys think as bhaal’s invoker as a mana sink
I've seen thundermaw hellkikte in this deck. But it comes in and out depending on the meta.
Very cool deck tech!
The choice I'm surprised by is Wild Magic Surge over Chaos Warp. The cheaper cost is great but I woukd regularly WMS one stax piece into another. Is it because only a narrow set of stax really effects Magda?
Happy Birthday Cam, as a fellow Magda enjoyer I loved the episode! There's a few cards you're not running in your Magda list im curious about why not namely
-Ancient Tomb (We run a bunch of artifacts and big dumb dragons)
-Sculpting Steel (Copies a second stax piece / Portal to Phyrexia / etc.)
-Axgard Cavalry (Best 2 Drop Dwarf)
-Grafdigger's Cage (Anti-Kinnan Tech, you have Spine so you can just spine it away after infinite treasures)
-Sokenzan (Incredibly low opportunity cost, can be useful with Maskwood)
-Delayed Blast Fireball
Happy Birthday Cam! As a magda player myself, this was also a treat for me! :D
Ooooo. I have all of these things.
I feel like Cam really loves those mono colors. Going from Urza to this! Really awesome video thanks for sharing!
Rebuilding magda because of the BANS 🎉 where did kiki jiki go? 😮
Happy birthday Cam! I originally wanted to build Magda because 1. I love the dwarves, dragons, and artifacts, 2. Never built a mono color commander deck, and 3. Love all the stuff it does on the stack. 2 friends I play with regularly built it first though, so I never built it. Maybe I'll borrow it from them.
yeah I feel you, I avoid building the same decks as people I know I'll be playing with regularly. I mean there are countless options for commanders nowadays, might as well have some variety at the table. Still I love my Magda, I would totally recommend it.
This might be my budget deck building brain speaking but using Reckless Handling might not be as good as tutoring for dockside but it lets you get any of your artifact dwarfs to start your combos or any piece to turn magda into a dork and potentially lets you turn artifacts drawn and not tutored into potential damage to the table.
To me the fact that it gets your Universal Automaton which is the best way to get going in most cases makes it worth running since it also has flexibility to go get your stax pieces since you can be casting those and potentially not using magda's tutor for them.
At least in this kinda turbo variant.
Happy Birthday CAM thank you for all of the great magic content y’all bring!
Love Magda 🫶🏻
Been playing edeh for awhlle thinking of Magda my first cdeh deck 🤔 any thought plus i dont want to spend all my money, hahah you guys explained the wins cons very well 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I feel like we could revisit this commander even now with more to say considering at least one Magda pilot has been in most top 8s or even winning multiple tournaments in the last few months. Deck is strong and imo one of the more complex combo decks giving both experienced and inexperienced players trouble alike. Even in a post bowmasters world the deck is surprisingly versatile and explosive without needing to cast too many spells to win, and there's just so many lines they can use. Seriously, looking at the community primer for this deck is like reading a book they can combo so many different ways.
Amazing podcast as always. I want to give a piece of info I recently found. It is Academy ManuFACTOR. Not manufacturer. Who knew? And now I can't unsee it and if I hear it incorrectly, it's driving me crazy. I wish they errata this.
I have a question. With a Magda player at the table I usually try to use a Praetor’s Grasp, if I’m in black, to exile the Clock of Omens from their deck with no intention of playing it. I would like to know… how would you recover from that combo piece being out of reach? What’s the plan b in this deck for you?
I was thinking that Mycosynth Lattice would be a good add, since you have Karn. That being said, you can always grab it from outside the game using Karn's -2 to grab it. My pod hates when I play Karn for that reason.
Are you still playing Magda? Roaming Throne is a new include that is perfect for Magda. Artifact Dwarf that's hard to remove and doubles Magdas triggered ability
No ancient copper dragon? Expected value on the d20 is 10.5 so you grt 10 treasures 55% of the time. Also 80% you you atleast get 5 treasures.
This has nothing to do with Play to Win but this is the first video I’ve seen since my debate w a fellow poker nerd about mtg vs chess.
Home boy was relentless in his proclamation that Chess is more complex than mtg. I told him chess isn’t even as complex as poker which he also disagreed w but I focused on cedh, which he said he plays occasionally.
This is a COMPLETE joke to me but I want to put it to the readers and maybe the play to win crew.. Chess vs Cedh, which is the more complex game?
My last question to the guy was this;
How well would you do at chess against a computer? How well can even the best human do against a computer? Now show me the computer that can play cedh. It might happen in our lifetimes but the shit ain’t happening now. Right?
Cedh is, in my view, the most complex game that the general masses can actually play. I think cedh is the limit case for enjoyable nuance and complexity for most people.
Would love to hear thoughts on this or even just “agree” or “disagree”
#MagdaSlaps
Great video
bloodboiler pumps ANY creature. i usually use it on my opponents attacks. its a great political tool in that regard. you'd be surprised how often an attack is swayed on "it'll deal 6 more if you hit him instead"
How are you feeling about the new Gimli? I feel like you mentioned it in the LOTR podcast but can't remember what you thought. It feels pretty good to make three mana off of one dwork.
Would Duplicant and Meteor Golem be good alternatives to Spine of Ish Sah? If the "returning" thing is not used, then maybe it would be better to have a body on the field or, if the problem is a creature, to exile it?
While the one ring is a cast trigger so it isn't going to protect you from a magda tutor, I feel like you still really want it because it'll do stupid shit with clock of omens. Like bare minimum it'll fill your grip real quick whether you have magda in play or not.
You don't need an outlet for Magda, there's a million mini combos you can run that effectively wins without running any dead cards, Welder + Spine to destroy all permanent and then slap all stax pieces left in the deck into play and pass turn for example.
the second hand plays sol ring turn two into magda into unlicenced hearse off the treasure. Then turn 3 you can play out maskwood and starn churning out dwarves. Also at that point the crewed vehicle will be another dwarf that'll get sizable pretty soon. I feel like this is a keep
I really think you should avoid playing Madga on turn 1, it's a big gamble with no real payout. Better just cast a 1 mana dwarf on turn 1, and on turn 2 net a treasure when you play the Magda.
You absolute legends. Third time watching this video - love the discussion of Magda and your enthusiasm for this deck!
tomb trawler, and grinding station can keep cycling spine of ish sah back into library going through your own indestructible artifact defence,
I’m late to the party here, but thoughts on cards like Goblin Welder and Trash for Treasure?
PS Happy bday 🍻
It looks like Red Elemental Blast would be better in the list than Pyroblast. It's s a bit of a niche scenario where the difference matters, but REB can only have it target changed with something like a Deflecting Swat if there's another Blue target whereas Pyroblast can legally target anything. Without any Storm synergy the only real difference is that REB will always go 1 for 1 when its target is changed and Pyroblast only will when it's in the Deflecting Swat player's advantage.
I played a 1v1 casual game against my friend a couple of weeks ago. Magda ended up costing him 12 mana in the end just because I had to keep removing her.
I'm surprised gimli didn't come up. He's not as good as face-breaker, but he seems like an honorable mention at least considering he's at least a dwarf.
Hows Xorn+Academy manufactor gives infinite mana? I'm affraid I don't understand this interaction :D
For the hand at about 46:00 Would going cavern, sol ring, hearse T1 into T2 magda and be able to tap her instantly and play and tap second dwarf as well be worth it or still a mull?
Just a question, why not use Goblin Cannon as a wincon instead of Skargan Hellkite? Or both?
46:03 quite suprised u dont keep a hand with turn 1 hearse and turn 2 magda and bloodfire dwarf u get 2 treasure each rotation without attacking and if u have 5 treasure cause nexus find dockside with curio in hand?
Where’s Tyler? I’m sure he would be upset at the “galvanTic blast” pronunciation lol
na i did dragon storm 😂 its epic all you need is tje one dragon that when a dragon enters the battlefield it deals x dmg equal to its power to any target. then just keep sacing 5 treasure and pulling out dragons lol
When i played Dwarven Bloodboiler i found one interesting way to use it: kill phantasmal image for free
Magda is very good! I went and got myself an AP from the artist.
Also happy b day dude!
The one ring is only good if you cast it. Putting it into play isn’t as good. Personally I like memory jar more.
I really don't understand the use of Gemstone Caverns in this deck. Can someone explain it to me?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CAMERON!!! thx for best mtg content :3
Happy Birthday Cam! Thanks for working on your special day! Lol
A good option if clock has been exiled is battered golem and maskwood nexus, with a tapper to start it off
I have a question, how does the crew value on the vehicle affect the dwarves being able to crew it? Im confused
Happy birthday, Cam! Have you considered Sands of Time as a stax piece?
Do you have a moxfield link to this deck? Kinda wanna build a monocolor deck and this looks fun lol
Does anyone else hear the high pitched ringing starting at exactly 11:00 or am I finally going crazy?
would hope of ghirapur be a good search target? sure you need to deal combat damage with it but its a silence
Happy birthday, gotta message the nitpicking nerds for a happy birthday!
It's a tapland every time its important but even just for flavor I would want to run dwarven mine
Happy belated birthday Cam, what about scroll rack in the deck?
Springleaf drum is just gross here lol. A sol ring that makes colored mana.
Happy birthday Cam!
Thank you!
It’s my birthday too! Happy Birthday! Magda is awesome.
How many dragons should you run in the deck??
Hellkite Tyrant with "infinite" treasures win on upkeep right?
Magda makes me want to take Prosper apart and make this nightmarish monster of a deck.
Happy birthday Cam!!!🎉🎉🎉 I love your laugh😂
When dinosaurs roamed the earth…. Thanks Cam, homelands set is not that old.
Happy birthday cam, we share a bday, cool! Have a good one!
Why does everyone run Spine of Ish over Meteor Golem? Legitimate question, not criticism. If returning to hand isn’t usually relevant text, I feel like being an artifact creature that becomes a dwarf with Maskwood would matter more
After thinking about it, I now know why. Most hatebears that stop ETB effects only hit creatures. Hushwing, Hushbringer, Torpor Orb, Tocatli Honor Guard, etc.
Take Dwarven Mine, then run all the mountain fetch lands
Just finished a Pioneer list with a magda tool box its a lot of fun
Yo we have the same birthday, Cam! Happy birthday!
Excuse me? ua-cam.com/video/hoXKYR29WVg/v-deo.html
What was that again?
Happy Birthday homie!!! 🎉🤘🏽🤣💯
Can we get one of these for Dylan's Korvold list?
Great tech you guys. Would you say that Magda is a good starter for someone trying to get into cEDH??
And is There and Back Again too slow for the format in this deck??
I dunno, it involves a lot of decision making since you are tutoring. The main win line is simple enough but there’ll be plenty of times where you need to make a tactical choice about what piece to grab to stabilise/disrupt other people. But that might actually be a good thing! Practice that stuff right off the bat lol.
You should really reevaluate Magda. It’s statistically the best deck in the format right now.
So good
Hahaha stop exposing us Magda players!!! 😂