one of the weirdest experiences ive had was back when I lived in Nigerian I had a school trip to the uk to see nigerian artifacts because of a history unit. I had to travel to see my own countries artifacts .
Thats how sad it is They have openly displayed the stolen objects and rightful owners can't do anything This is what the so called gentleman country is
To see them in such well preserved and protected at a world class institution. Honestly tell me, how would've your national treasures fare in your country's third rate infrastructure? They would've been destroyed during war, famine or dictators would've been smuggled or sold them to fund wars.
There is a famous traditional tower in South Korea and it used to be surrounded by four stone lions which are represented to protect the tower. However, out of the four, one is missing. And the last time I visited the British museum, it was literally sitting behind a glass pane.
They're not, they're a shadow of their former glory because your ancestors didn't appreciate their heritage and wrecked them. "Please give us back our artifacts so we can fail to maintain the properly and lose them to history"
@@leojrobison2102 So in that logic, if me and my mates trespassing your house, killing your family members, and then enslaving you, it means that your house and everything inside it is legally mine now right?
My boyfriend used to be one of the managers in security there, he told me they hid so many artifacts there in storage and he got to see them. He was told they’ll never been shown to people as it would cause a lot of controversy
But most museums do have storage areas that hold at least twice the amount of artifacts displayed to public. That’s not unusual but they need to have a register that should hold all information that should be accessible.
That’s the artifact that they want us to see. God knows what else they have stolen they are afraid to show because that may start riots and hate toward england
@@nostro1940 Why don't you go on to say that, if not for british these items would have fallen into wrong hands and destroyed. We made the railways.. we gave the world english.. common man..
That’s not true. For example the Sutton hoo helmet is an anglo Saxon helmet that originated from the British isles. Most of the artifacts in the museum are infact manly British
To be honest they are doing a great job at preserving artifcats ( that is what is most important) and until they are public domain the place of storage is not really important
@Koolkid The British Museum has done an exceptionally good job at preserving all the artifscts it is home to. Many of these would have ironically been destroyed in their "countries of origin" because many of these artifacts simply were created by people who no longer live in the countries they were created. Many are provocative symbols that pose an affront to the cultures established in the lands which they "should" have been. There is absolutely no doubt that many, if not most, of the artifacts in dispute would have not existed now hadn't they been taken by the English. Paradoxically neither you or I would have ever heard of the Rosetta Stone, or the Parthenon Marbles, among many others if it wasn't for the fact that they were kept, safe and sound, in the British Museum.
Britain was a pioneer in the excavation of ancient and forgotten cultures, with explorers going above and beyond even risking their lives to find lost cultures and structures that time has forgotten. Until then most people couldn't have cared less about ancient and forgotten societies and anything surrounding them. Locals would also usually use materials from ancient structures to build other things, and they would've been dismantled over time......
I think that all the colonial powers should have to give back everything they stole from the people who where affected by this including the 45 trillion usd that uk stole from india!'
@@Shane9251 Right, ISIS n all… a result of colonization n enslaving it’s population for generations, keeping them poor, uneducated, etc. No excuse for poor behaviour!
@@Shane9251 HK has more freedom than US b4 recent sabotaged episode, abusing those freedom resulting in Beijing’s reaction. They r doing the same towards Taiwan. I don’t promote violence, worse, war. Going to the source is the right way, not beating around the bushes.
When anyone tells you that the British Museum should keep the items because it's the best place to preserve them, just remind them that the museum used corrosive chemicals and metal tools in the 30s to "clean" the Parthenon marbles (from all the smog that accumulated on them in London), making them lose much of their original detailing.
Not to mention the methodology used was often destructive. One of the stolen items are lintels 24 and 25 from Yaxchilan, Mexico. The British guy who stole those stones destroyed a whole building that was 3,000 years old to extract those stones from the site.
"American archeologist Dorothy King, in a newspaper article, wrote that techniques similar to the ones used in 1937-38 were applied by Greeks as well in more recent decades than the British, and maintained that Italians still find them acceptable*. wiki
"The west frieze was largely left intact by Elgin’s workmen, but they did take moulds of it; comparison between those and the next set of moulds, taken in the early 1870s, shows significant damage to the surfaces, as well as the loss of some distinct features, such as heads, which may have been caused by the bombardments of 1821 and 1826-7".The Elgin Marbles, Keep, Lend or Return? An analysis by Sir Noel Malcolm 2023.
The irony is that the British were so busy stealing other people's history that their own history cannot find space in London. I was shocked that London does not have a dedicated Anglo-Saxon history museum when I visited last year. Only small ignored corners of the British museum has things like the Sutton Hoo treasure being dwarfed under the glory of the Egyptian and Middle-Eastern collection. I was genuinely feeling sorry for them.
Precisely. Technological advancement isn't even close to the same as being more evolved or civilized. Lack of Cultural relativism gives people the false notion that they are superior because of technology advancements they played no role in. They just happened to be born in the place that has better tech. Behind all the fancy tech of developed nations are the same barbaric instincts that have driven humans for millions of years. 70 million died as a result of WW2
@@eternallaurum i said "somewhat" my dude its not like they were perfect but at least they werent literally sacrificing their own warriors for notjhing
I visited The Egyptian Museum in 2019. I saw the Rosetta stone there and I was thrilled when I saw it. Then it felt weird that such an important piece was being mostly ignored by everyone and not well displayed... Then the guide told me of course it was a replica 😞 Same happened when I visited Athens in the Acropolis museum. It was like a joke that I had with my husband... Ah! Let me guess, the piece is in the British Museum, of course!
The locals didn't care about that history at that time and most of those artifacts would of ended up in private collections. At least now the common people have a chance to see them
@@Joshpox the entire so called Golden Islamic period was the progress and achievements stolen from the ancient Greek, Semitic, ancient Egyptian, Persian and indus etc civilisations... once the Islamic armies had no one else to conquer and steal from their empire went backwards
Imagine if thousands of years ago someone stole the English crown and sceptre and put it in their museum and refused to give it up, poms would probably be livid.
What I understood from the comments is that the British people are proud of their legacy of colonialism. They see nothing wrong with how these articles were acquired. A vast majority still believe that they are superior to other cultures. They think that developing countries can't be trusted with preserving their own heritage. Their mindset is still colonial.
@Edward Shearmur Promoting Culture is not Colonising India is not better than English in cricket We are nowadays doing good and We were always Rich We were the richest during mughal empire
@Edward Shearmur See this is the attitude people have Problem with, The Soo called Royal Family should acknowledge that they were no colonizers, they were just another Brutal Monarchy who left countries in Pieces, The Amount Money stolen By Britain, Thry won't be able to pay back in 100 yrs soo there's no point in that, People just want they stop calling themselves Great, They were just one of worst people May be not as Bad as German or Japanese but that doesn't make them Good
The British didn't just loot national treasures, some were also destroyed such as the Singapore Stone which had centuries old Javanese or Sanskrit inscription.
the british also destroyed the parthenon in athens, elgin stole the parthenon marbles and he also damaged part of the erechtheion so he can stole one of the original maiden statutes.
Yeah the Parthenon information is incorrect, it was seen of little value by the Ottomans and actually damaged during a conflict with them and the Venetians, so this nobleman went through this long ordeal to acquire the pieces in order to spare them from the long period of dereliction that had occurred under the Ottomans
The slab was blown up in 1843 during British colonial rule to clear and widen the passageway at the river mouth to make space for a fort and the quarters of its commander D.H. Stevenson. The Stone, now displayed at the National Museum of Singapore, was designated by the museum as one of 11 National Treasures of Singapore in January 2006,
@@LeodisTrainSpotter Your point is? Objects should belong to the creators unless they were legally and lawfully purchased or inherited. Taking them without consent equals thievery
I still remember the words that my tourist guide in Athens said when she painfully had to show us the copies of the marbles of the Parthenon instead of the original ones, kept inside the British Museum. She said:"When I visited the British museum they called Lord Elgin an important archeologist for bringing the marbles to England, but I call him a thief."
@JHB Luck destroying a piece of history is *NOT* equal to the repatriation of stolen artifacts, and *you* as someone that has no first hand experience and coloring your glasses with emotions in something that happened over a 100 years ago has no right to feel angry about historical facts and depictions of such things, rather you should accept these things as facts and something to be viewed with an objective lens and be learned upon Tangina pare, ikinagagalit mo pa ung nangyari nung panahon ng kanununuan mo? Walang kwenta yang sintementong yan, sa halip na pagaralan mo dinadaan mo sa emosyon? Tsk
@@zaneluman7573 you didn't understand anything. 1) I didn't say that these pieces shouldn't stay in a museum. 2) I said that the Greek museum had to show copies of the marbles of the Parthenon because the originals are inside the British Museum. Shouldn't the citizens of Athens and Greece be the first ones to have the right and the possibility to see the masterpieces that were created by they ancestors? 3) why are Greek people supposed to make the effort to travel all the way to England to see those masterpieces (which are as important as the naked structure of the Parthenon you see in Athens today)? My tourist guide was lucky enough to get to see them once in her lifetime in London, but who knows how many Greek people will never get a chance to see those sculptures, because those are in London.
I’m Greek and English and I’m sorry but the only reason the English took the marbles was because they were in danger of being destroyed, no one cared for the Parthenon until the English archaeologists can with was used as a store for weapons and destroyed multiple times, as someone who is fiercely proud of their Greek heritage I would much rather the marbles be safe in Britain than dust in Athens which they would’ve been without English intervention
@@caradowland5530 Indeed, but now it's the time for Britain to return them back to Athens. Especially since the new Acropolis museum is now operating which is quite advanced and very capable of hosting those pieces and in perfect shape.
I'm a brazilian of mixed race, a descendant from the Benin people. Last year, i got a free scholarship on England and managed to visit the British Museum 6 times - which wasnt nearly enough to get to see half of it -, and the moment i saw the Benin bronzes i just. cried. my ancestors, stolen from their land, taken to Brazil as slaves, their beautiful culture stolen and taken to England, and somehow I managed to unite both of these things and get to see them. It was an emotional roller coaster!
who sold you? I am also mixed race and a descendant of Nigerians. I want nothing to do with that part of Africa because they sold my ancestors as slaves to the Spanish and British.
@@BlitzOfTheReichwho brought them as slaves to Brazil? Portugal. Who manipulated the tribes in Africa so they would give each other to the colonizers? Also Portugal!
Britain was a pioneer in the excavation of ancient and forgotten cultures, with explorers going above and beyond even risking their lives to find lost cultures and structures that time has forgotten. Until then most people couldn't have cared less about ancient and forgotten societies and anything surrounding them. Locals would also usually use materials from ancient structures to build other things, and they would've been dismantled over time..........
I think it’s a good idea to have a massive museum, showcasing all the amazing things about humans and history, but they should be gifted to the museum by various countries, not stolen. 🤨
I do think that the artefacts should only return if they have somewhere safe that the country wants to keep it. If it doesn’t, I think Britain should pay for it, as long as it’s a reasonable request, and the country is fairly small/under-developed.
The british museum to greece : we can't return the marbles of the parthenon to you because you don't have a museum to display them in Greece: *builds the acropolis museum * The british museum: ok yes BUT-
@@frostedcherrypie5440 Why should the British museum lend them to them? And I won't go in to the argument of Britain buying them from their legal owners at the time...
@anton_398 By looting us to the drain ? Yeah right looted us for hundreds of years, built railways to transfer ''our stolen resources'' to London ,burned down thousands of books which contained our history, distorted our history(Yes there's a law suit still going against UK for distorting the history of South Asian countries),stole our indigenous medicines and created tablets from them ...and then have the audacity to call us poor and uncivilized when there are literally Buddhist and Hindu temples dated back to the time when British were living cave men life(Yes you can look it up if you don't believe me) You know what there's no point of arguing with people like you who lives with colonial mindsets ...and look at Britain now the poorest nation in Europe after Ukraine with corruptness sky rocketing and soon to be taken over by the former colonies ....you know what let them live like that , because they stayed in our nations illegally for more than 250 years so now those people are living in their nations illegally Such a great time to live ooh
@anton_398 By looting us to the drain ? Yeah right looted us for hundreds of years, built railways to transfer ''our stolen resources'' to London ,burned down thousands of books which contained our history, distorted our history(Yes there's a law suit still going against UK for distorting the history of South Asian countries),stole our indigenous medicines and created tablets from them ...and then have the audacity to call us poor and uncivilized when there are literally Buddhist and Hindu temples dated back to the time when British were living cave men life(Yes you can look it up if you don't believe me) You know what there's no point of arguing with people like you who lives with colonial mindsets ...and look at Britain now the poorest nation in Europe after Ukraine with corruptness sky rocketing and soon to be taken over by the former colonies ....you know what let them live like that , because they stayed in our nations illegally for more than 250 years so now those people are living in their nations illegally Such a great time to live ooh
@@captainkenzie6873 Britain are great now because all the crimes they did in the past lol But hey I'm not shaming you because now most people are good and have nothing to do with what their ancestors did
I saw a comment and it will never leave my head. If for example, the Royal British Crown was stolen, it would be seen as a worldwide crime. How ironic that it's completely okay to steal another country's entire history while if ONE crown made up of stolen jewels were to be stolen, it would cause international dismay..
history is wirtten by victors, like it or not. Plus is it only uk to blame for what happened? Whats about corrupt officials who were concerned about their own wealth rather than the development of their own country to oppose colonial empires?
@@jadequincy9177 so if corrupt officials were really the problem, and then came a time when Americans own the British isles, and try to shift the royal crown to DC because "it doesn't deserve to be in a place where there's no power", and the ministers in the isles would be okay with it because it would mean a better position with the rulers, would you call it a conqueror's interest or stealing hands?
@@kaushiksaikadali7460 well they are both products of the same west European civilization, it would make no sense to demonstratively rob your ally and ignite civil unrest in UK. You could rather make them rely on your economy and military power so that you can have them in your pocket (what Americans actually do). Plus UK is top 5 world economy and possess nuclear power that's why it would be quite foolish of US to start such a conflict - neither Americans nor British will understand and they won't gain any profit from it, especially when they already share many common enemies such as China and Russia
Hehe, welllllllll, in the Netherlands one of the British crowns was put l, and still is, up for display after we stole it. Interestingly, a lot of royal made crowns where gifted to other countries by the British as a sign of trust. On the voyage to gift one of these the duch marine interfered and took the British boat and everything it owns. And honestly, who cares if the crown was stolen 100+ years ago? If it was today sure people would be mad, but when it's antiant history?
In 1972 while viewing the British Museum of Art I was astounded at the vast collection of Ancient Egyptian artifacts and mummies that were on display. Back then I thought that these pieces should be returned to Egypt
The so-called "British" Museum even steals artefacts from other parts of the United Kingdom. Whenever an important find is made anywhere in the UK, it automatically ends up in the storerooms of the British Museum. They have so avariciously grabbed anything and everything that they couldn't possibly display all of "their" artefacts if they began rolling displays for the next 1,000 years! This culture of "grabbing" anything and everything must end!
@Indian Atheist Maybe you should educate yourself regarding the history of what is india today, before the british. The prototypical exploitation culture.
Their is no 'godess shiva'only godess zhiva,'godess shiva'is missprounantion of slavic name ziva,and the name ziva comes from slavic word zivot=zhee.wot.=life.
@QE ornotQE I see what you mean! Yes, all made by earthlings! Alien civilizations were not involved in the creation of the Pyramids, Easter Island heads or Nazca lines.
I think that all the colonial powers should have to give back everything they stole from the people who where affected by this including the 45 trillion usd that uk stole from india!
Half of the items are transferred to the Queen’s personal collection. This was deliberately done so communities couldn’t claim these items back. Example- Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj’s Gold and diamond studded sword.
I didn't realize museum artifacts had stories like this behind them. I thought they were discovered on archaeology digs and such, so I didn't get why people were demanding them back. But in this case you have this man who never saw his country's artifacts until he went to a different country. That is kind of sad.
I am an Indian and British literally stole all our precious artifacts. Even the crown that queen proudly used to wear was "Kohinoor" which the British forcefully took from us. But one day, one day we take it all back.
Not all artifacts are in the British Museum, India's Kohinoor Diamond is studded on Her Majesty the Queen's Crown and boy , will we have a hard time getting that one back!
I t was surrendered by Duleep Singh who was just nine years old at that time so yeah it wasn't gifted nor was it forcibly taken...ig there was some kind of treaty..
They don't charge. However at the louvre, the vatican and pretty much all museums in mainland Europe and the USA you'll have to pay to see their stolen artifacts.
the fact that an *Egyptian* museum exists in Berlin solely because of stolen artifacts just makes me wonder how many museums Egypt could open if they get their artifacts, from all over the world, back.
Yeah... They could open as many museums as they want and break apart world's heritage with unprofessional practices. But good that those artifacts are kept safe in Germany for now.
Most of the Egyptian stuff was actually stolen by local people from the tombs, temples and graves. Why do you think the stuff Berlin has is stolen? The archaeologists had permits and were only allowed to take a portion of the finds out, hence why the King Tut mask is in Egypt rather than at Downton Abbey.
@@ElGrandoCaymano First of all tutankhamun is not a king. Downton abbey is a drama not a place and again, the artifacts were stolen from Egypt. Putting in a musem doesn't justify stealth.
@@ElGrandoCaymano tutankhamun was a pharaoh not a king, two different titles. Downton abbey is a drama, not a real place. Maybe your refering to the real estate that inspired Downton abbey where the funding for the search of the mask came, but what does that have to do with satire exactly?
Perfectly summed up - "you cannot claim to be an encyclopaedic collector of stolen items". British museum should be renamed as the 'vault of the thieves guild'
Idk man less then 1 percent of the items are stolen (remember there are millions of items) so yeah I think that the British must is a pretty good name.
These stolen artifacts should all be returned to its origins. It's just a disgrace to showcase these in a museum by the people who stole it. Shows the low humanity can get.
@@barnythepurpledinosaur9689 you don't get to destroy your own cultural heritage, through your pitiful "great leap forward", and then claim land that once belonged to a dynasty that has no relation to the cess pool that is the ccp.
The sad part with Greece and the stolen artifacts is that Elgin took more things and with his trip back to his country he lost them in the sea because the ship couldn’t bear the weight
exactly, we lost so many important artifacts that have never been found, even after countless years of searching. they're part of our culture and it really hurts me that they were lost because someone was greedy and irresponsible. he treated them like simple rocks and didnt give them the respect they deserved.
When I travelled to the British museum for the first time in 2016, I was stunned to find out it had an entire collection of Chinese artifacts that spanned the entirety of the Chinese civilization, from Neolithic Age to 1949, some of the items were so rare that you can't even find in China. and in showroom No.95, an astonishing display of all the Chinese porcelain they looted from imperial China during the opium war, including the rarest Yuan Blue and white porcelain dragon vase. it was a very disheartening visit, I left with tears on my face
@@Zelenskyy9 Preserving stolen artifacts to shame a nation is hardly a noble cause. Let's focus on understanding history and fostering mutual respect, acknowledging that past actions don't define the strength of a people. Museums should be spaces for cultural exchange, not perpetuating narratives of conquest and humiliation.
@@ElGrandoCaymano the Benin kingdom where the artifacts were stolen from is in present day Nigeria, not to be mistaken with Benin republic a country that neighbours Nigeria.
@@ElGrandoCaymano Modern day Benin isn't actually the same Benin. What we know today as Benin used to be called Dahomey, while the historical Benin was in Southwest Nigeria.
Disputed ownership" is a typically British way of saying something is stolen. And as John Oliver once said: "The British Museum is basically an active crime scene".
I’m Iraqi and some of our stuff is at the British museum, even tho I might never get to see it face to face and that the British (army, rulers, etc) who divided us are the ones to own it but I’m still glad they have it. I know my government would never be able to take care of anything which is honestly sad
Where you all go wrong in life is by saying the British... we didn't and don't have any say in what our government decide... similar to the people of palestine, they voted in hamas and that doesn't yield great results for them.
Mhmm but the thing is who wants to know about British culture and history. It's mostly known, all they did was colonize anything they could get their hands on.
@@freepalestine7687 The only item in a British (or English, really) food museum would be a plate of baked beans and canned mushy peas on toast, and it'd be labelled as "breakfast".
I think its better if its kept there, in my home country there's mountains with manmade holes in them where my ancestors lived and there were many precious artifacts. But locals and tourists took them and now they're essentially lost, it wouldve been better for them to be preserved in the museum for thousands to see.
Imagine chilling in your home and then having someone intrude and steal all your valuable items. Then years later going to another place to see that in someone else's house those who stole from you are thriving and proudly display and profit from the things that originally belonged to your home. To then politely ask for them to be returned only to be ignored or told that they could only lend them to you for a while. That’s how unfair I imagine this being
They are safer in British hands. Benin has been in constant war since the 60s. Imagine grenades constantly going off in your house, but the things you have are now safe in the strangers house.
@@tubeguy4066 thats not for you to decide. If they belong to a certain country as the thief that stole them it’s only right to give it back. Regardless of its condition afterwards. That’s not up to you nor is it your business. I’m sure majority of us Asian counties will take of what is ours thank you very much.
@@tubeguy4066 don't just say nonsense they're clearly using it for their profit, the why Egyptian artifacts aren't given back yet? Egypt had the 9th strongest army in the world, way stronger than UK so it's not up to them to worry about our culture, it's ours
@@sajenin3659 let's just imagine this. I steal your assets then after sometimes you accuse and ask me to return them back to you but I will just show you the face "So what, its mine now, forget about it." :)
I heard people using the justification “The artifacts would be destroyed in their land of origin.” And since then, I knew theives will always find a way.
@@WrenchedAdvice exactly its only the British how poor and low can you be to even go out and take what's not yours? Sadly enough you say my ancestors should have protected their OWN artifacts in their OWN land..smh. some ppl WILL NEVER get it
@@Queengalexxi Why do you lot forget forget that humanity as always been like that, even African Empires conquered and took other people's stuff, the Zulus were far more brutal to other Africans than the British Empire ever was
David will have 3 and Dinesh (who is an awkward, socially inept child) gave David one of his artifacts in gratitude for David not allowing the school bullies to torment little Dinesh.
@@TheSteveRobinson And David goes on to racially abuse, torment, systematically loot Dinesh and kills his kins. While growing his own wealth and draining everything out of once very rich people.
@@omeshsingh7072 Perhaps if little Dinesh and his friends joined together, the situation might have been different. But, they didn't. So, 10 Davids dominated 10,000 Dinesh'es. C'est la vie.
Three of Cambodia lost antiquities were stored in the storage room of the British museum and was recently signed it off back to us, but in condition of only returning after 3 years of displaying there. We're slowly restoring our precious treasure back together again, piece by piece, and I’m very relieved by that.
We did raise an army and take it back 🤷. Shouldn't worry about bronzes anyway this is the part where we all fight for the last of the planets resources anyway .
Well, they did pay a fair price for it for a lot of the artifacts. The people they were paying had stolen them, but they still paid for them. (Still should give them back)
Giving back cultural artifacts is a must, but having the proper structure to preserve them and making them easy for other cultures to see them and learn their rich history is also a must. Sadly this second part seems to fail too
As a person who lives in Britain, I can assure you they do not teach us that these are stolen. They say that they traded large amounts to get these artefacts or "help" them with difficulties being faced in their country.
Sometimes they did trade stuff or sign agreements, but with other powers currently in control of said country. Like Elgin made a deal with the Ottomans for the Marbles as at that time they controlled Greece
Some of the Agreements signed in a lot of former colonies were only understood by the British Our ancestors were swindled into signing away land and ownership of a lot of things
Even the sanitized version sounds shady if you stop to think about them. Like Uriah’s all these people suffered hardships shortly after the British colonizers arrived. I wonder what caused them?
I'd go a step further and say if you want to be a true library of the world, why do you have to be based in GB? Why not move the whole museum to Nigeria instead, and give total ownership of the entire collection to their Government while you're at it. If you see a problem with this logic (and it is problematic), then that's exactly what the British Museum is doing.
I love how it's named the "British museum" but half of the items inside aren't even British Edit: the way so many people don't understand I'm joking. Just pointing out the irony of it 😭😭??
@@rediettadesse2828 Thanks to museums, you don't need to travel to Egypt to see ancient egyptian artifacts. But museums shouldn't have stolen artifacts, countries need to make deals to allow other countries to have their artifacts.
I went to university near this museum and it was always so ironic to me how it was called the “British” museum when they barely had a small section dedicated to britain, the whole museum is just stolen things from everywhere
Someone said "Egypt doesnt know the true value of the stone". Its like breaking into someones house and take things from them because they rarely use it
No its not the same. The british archarologist are responsible for the eygptian history we now have as they were ones that discovered it tutankhamen tomb and the others and many had been and continue to be vandalised like the sphinx.
Well, didn’t the French find the Rosetta stones in a wall used as filler? I mean, it didn’t seem they cared to much about it until the French and subsequently the British understood its value. It was just another brick in the wall.
I've been there. I remember that they have some old Egyptian structures. When I asked how they got those structures from Egypt to London, they told me that they moved entire buildings by disassembling them and then assembling those in London.
British engineering and ingenuity has saved many artefacts and historical structures & objects from destruction. Now that these recently established countries have been brought into the 21st century they want these items returned...
jokes are told to be retold, thats the beauty of jokes. Unless you are a professional comedian that charges people money to see an original program there is nothing wrong with "stealing jokes". Plus I wasnt even aware at the time of writing where I heard it before. But just so you can put your internet handcuffs away TBZ, yes it was james acaster that I got it from.
one of the weirdest experiences ive had was back when I lived in Nigerian I had a school trip to the uk to see nigerian artifacts because of a history unit. I had to travel to see my own countries artifacts .
How sad is that 😞. Hope one day it gets back to the negerian soil 🙏🏼
You must be part of the elites. Not many Africans can afford to go to field trips abroad.
Thats how sad it is
They have openly displayed the stolen objects and rightful owners can't do anything
This is what the so called gentleman country is
@@TheGreenlove87 Not even some european schools can afford that...
To see them in such well preserved and protected at a world class institution. Honestly tell me, how would've your national treasures fare in your country's third rate infrastructure? They would've been destroyed during war, famine or dictators would've been smuggled or sold them to fund wars.
There is a famous traditional tower in South Korea and it used to be surrounded by four stone lions which are represented to protect the tower. However, out of the four, one is missing. And the last time I visited the British museum, it was literally sitting behind a glass pane.
Wow!
How did it reach there.
@@Baboi62182 Its called being a strong country that isnt invaded 😊
@@britishvader2438 I meant except japanese colony, no other colonizers were there in Korea. So how did it reach there.
@@Baboi62182 Korean war?
The only reason why the Great Pyramids of Giza are still standing is because it was too big to ship it back to a British Museum
They're not, they're a shadow of their former glory because your ancestors didn't appreciate their heritage and wrecked them.
"Please give us back our artifacts so we can fail to maintain the properly and lose them to history"
@@benjaminwilliams41 r/woooosh
@VVA 11 where are you from?
@@benjaminwilliams41 idk, somewhere that isn't England??
@@benjaminwilliams41 I see you are one of those British people who are proud of their legacy of colonialism. Typical colonial mindset as always.
Maybe I can find my lost childhood bicycle there
and my basketball 🏀😂
maybe i could find the pen that some kid stole
😂😂😂
That's in Germany
@@whynugs 😂😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥
Probably didn't steal the pyramid because it was too heavy
Lol right! But if they were able to move them they would have!
Vector did...
Hahahah I’m sure they’ve taken artifacts inside of the pyramid
Same with taj Mahal that was to heavy 😂
oh honey but they stole the mummy and its gold case
Telling people that you'll lend them the objects you stole from them is such a slap in the face
So British indeed.
Stole? When you conquer something you own it. At least back then
@@leojrobison2102 Still a thief lol
@@leojrobison2102 So in that logic, if me and my mates trespassing your house, killing your family members, and then enslaving you, it means that your house and everything inside it is legally mine now right?
@@axellfonz Nope
My boyfriend used to be one of the managers in security there, he told me they hid so many artifacts there in storage and he got to see them. He was told they’ll never been shown to people as it would cause a lot of controversy
But most museums do have storage areas that hold at least twice the amount of artifacts displayed to public. That’s not unusual but they need to have a register that should hold all information that should be accessible.
That’s the artifact that they want us to see. God knows what else they have stolen they are afraid to show because that may start riots and hate toward england
Tf? You'd expect at least one guy to snap a quick pic and leak it .
I reckon someday the contents will be leaked
Wow! The audacity of the men from the caucus mountain!
Tourists visit this foreign museum to see their own cultural history
No jokes you're literally correct, Egyptians literally visit it just to see the Rosetta stone
It’s much easier for people to visit one museum and appreciate these artifacts, than visiting multiple.
Yep... You're right...
@@andresjrz99 ofcourse it is, but would you want to keep a medal of yours (suppose) in a convenient public place rather than at home?
@@andresjrz99 but it's difficult for everyone in a country to get a visa to uk . Not so easy.
''Most Nigerians will never see them'' that's really heartbreaking.
@Joey Two Chins lol you mad
Britain should suffer for its atrocities
They must pay to its former coloinies
@@supremediscordmod5744 how so? I'm in my 20s, I had nothing to do with anything before the 1980s.
@@tumainitiger4655 you are holding our stolen things and you refuse to give it back so you are in a way responsible for this
"Disputed ownership" is a typically British way of saying something is stolen.
Because no other empire in human history has ever stolen something. The british were just better equipped and that drives u mad
@@nostro1940 Why don't you go on to say that, if not for british these items would have fallen into wrong hands and destroyed. We made the railways.. we gave the world english.. common man..
@@nostro1940 "we were better equipped thieves" what a strong argument man! I'm sold man.. Please take money from my wallet, too..
@@sonicblare So why cannot British Museum return for example Partenon Marbles to Acropolis Museum in Athens?
Nostro 200 so if we have a fist fight and I win I can go to your house and take any of your valuables that I fancy
>"British" Museum
>Looks inside
>Non British artifacts.
60% of artifacts in the British Museum are from the British Isles
Let me guess
You’ve never visited the museum, haven’t you?
About a quarter of the museum's artifacts they present publicly are from Western Europe (British Isles, France, Germany, Scandanavia, Italy).
My favourite section of the British museum is the anglo-saxon collection. The sutton hoo hoard is incredible.
That’s not true. For example the Sutton hoo helmet is an anglo Saxon helmet that originated from the British isles. Most of the artifacts in the museum are infact manly British
"The British Museum is full of stolen artifacts"
*pretends to be shocked*
Your name is "Roman" Just saying an roman emperor personally owned all of egypt
@@sosopwsi829Jjw9 okaay ...?
@@sosopwsi829Jjw9 but did he put egypt in a museum tho hmm
@@richardw6859 how very insightful. thank you for your wise words i guess
GASP!!
Imagine robbing someones house and displaying their stolen stuff in your house
Flex 😎
To be honest they are doing a great job at preserving artifcats ( that is what is most important) and until they are public domain the place of storage is not really important
They should of bought an alarm and won the fight.
@Koolkid The British Museum has done an exceptionally good job at preserving all the artifscts it is home to. Many of these would have ironically been destroyed in their "countries of origin" because many of these artifacts simply were created by people who no longer live in the countries they were created. Many are provocative symbols that pose an affront to the cultures established in the lands which they "should" have been. There is absolutely no doubt that many, if not most, of the artifacts in dispute would have not existed now hadn't they been taken by the English. Paradoxically neither you or I would have ever heard of the Rosetta Stone, or the Parthenon Marbles, among many others if it wasn't for the fact that they were kept, safe and sound, in the British Museum.
And then telling them that if they behave there may be a slight chance of lending them back some of the stuff for a little while.
So ancient artifacts to the British is like oil to Americans.
yes and those artifacts worth higher than oil
Fax
Double shots fired
difference is the US actually produces oil
@@jwb2734 yup, it used to be like Saudi Arabia and China combined.
Britishers says== the British Museum.
Indian says == Thieves Market 😂
Why would it be a market? We don't sell them, that's what corrupt countries do.
Even delhi chor bazaar cannot compete 😂
Britain was a pioneer in the excavation of ancient and forgotten cultures, with explorers going above and beyond even risking their lives to find lost cultures and structures that time has forgotten. Until then most people couldn't have cared less about ancient and forgotten societies and anything surrounding them. Locals would also usually use materials from ancient structures to build other things, and they would've been dismantled over time......
Learn world history, start with the trans-saharan s|ave trade......
They have even looted the word “loot” itself.
Lol... so apt .
Loot Crate
Lol. I couldn’t help but to laugh 🤭
So u came here after watching Shashi tharoor on Oxford union
Honestly!!!
You know the old saying, "never ask a woman her age, a man his salary, or a British museum how it got its historical artifacts."
lol
😂
Wow i never knew the third part thanks for the enlightment 😂😂
And A Student His Marks
I think that all the colonial powers should have to give back everything they stole from the people who where affected by this including the 45 trillion usd that uk stole from india!'
"British museum still behaves like a colonial museum"
That was some line😅
Proven crimes but the brits never stop making accusation on others to this date.
@@Shane9251 Right, ISIS n all… a result of colonization n enslaving it’s population for generations, keeping them poor, uneducated, etc. No excuse for poor behaviour!
@@Shane9251 Vibrant bcoz of trading from China, where true wealth lies till today, explained why the need to contain China for milking…
@@Shane9251 HK has more freedom than US b4 recent sabotaged episode, abusing those freedom resulting in Beijing’s reaction. They r doing the same towards Taiwan. I don’t promote violence, worse, war. Going to the source is the right way, not beating around the bushes.
@@Shane9251 HK was nvr a choice. There was a contract. That’s what I meant, beating around the bush.
When anyone tells you that the British Museum should keep the items because it's the best place to preserve them, just remind them that the museum used corrosive chemicals and metal tools in the 30s to "clean" the Parthenon marbles (from all the smog that accumulated on them in London), making them lose much of their original detailing.
Not to mention the methodology used was often destructive. One of the stolen items are lintels 24 and 25 from Yaxchilan, Mexico. The British guy who stole those stones destroyed a whole building that was 3,000 years old to extract those stones from the site.
"American archeologist Dorothy King, in a newspaper article, wrote that techniques similar to the ones used in 1937-38 were applied by Greeks as well in more recent decades than the British, and maintained that Italians still find them acceptable*. wiki
"The west frieze was largely left intact by Elgin’s workmen, but they did take
moulds of it; comparison between those and the next set of moulds, taken
in the early 1870s, shows significant damage to the surfaces, as well as the
loss of some distinct features, such as heads, which may have been caused
by the bombardments of 1821 and 1826-7".The Elgin Marbles, Keep, Lend or Return? An analysis by Sir Noel Malcolm 2023.
In the 30's, nearly 90 years ago
Why should turkey have Parthenon when it was Greek history?
The irony is that the British were so busy stealing other people's history that their own history cannot find space in London. I was shocked that London does not have a dedicated Anglo-Saxon history museum when I visited last year. Only small ignored corners of the British museum has things like the Sutton Hoo treasure being dwarfed under the glory of the Egyptian and Middle-Eastern collection. I was genuinely feeling sorry for them.
@Peggy Wiley How is historic Britain somehow an enemy of god?
@@RealMailou
Yes, "historic" thieves.
@@khemistrycreators4845 But still how are they an enemy of god...
@@RealMailou
When did I say they were an enemy of God?
@@khemistrycreators4845 And did I say that you did call them an enemy of god??? I want an answer from the other guy, yet you responded to me.
In honesty, secretly appreciating others artifacts while calling them uncivilized is the most European thing ever.
Precisely. Technological advancement isn't even close to the same as being more evolved or civilized. Lack of Cultural relativism gives people the false notion that they are superior because of technology advancements they played no role in. They just happened to be born in the place that has better tech. Behind all the fancy tech of developed nations are the same barbaric instincts that have driven humans for millions of years. 70 million died as a result of WW2
@@Baghdadbatterymusic not necesaryly the europeans were "somewhat" less barbaric than the aztecs in the sense they werent sacrificing people to gods
@@Cecilia-ky3uw they were sacrificing words instead
@@eternallaurum i said "somewhat" my dude its not like they were perfect but at least they werent literally sacrificing their own warriors for notjhing
@@eternallaurum Blank while im no vegan I can see your point thankfully youtube notifications kept most of your comment intact
I visited The Egyptian Museum in 2019. I saw the Rosetta stone there and I was thrilled when I saw it. Then it felt weird that such an important piece was being mostly ignored by everyone and not well displayed... Then the guide told me of course it was a replica 😞 Same happened when I visited Athens in the Acropolis museum. It was like a joke that I had with my husband... Ah! Let me guess, the piece is in the British Museum, of course!
I don't think there is one real artifact in Egypt.
@@namessteeth9818 the pyramids. That's it i think
😔
The locals didn't care about that history at that time and most of those artifacts would of ended up in private collections. At least now the common people have a chance to see them
@@SA2004YG who gets decide that?
Can't think of any other example where thieves openly display their loots!
The Louvre, the Smithsonian, the Vatican, the Hermitage, the New York Metropolitan.
Pretty much any large museum in the world.
Even the word "loot" is borrowed from Indian language. 🤣
@@Joshpox the entire so called Golden Islamic period was the progress and achievements stolen from the ancient Greek, Semitic, ancient Egyptian, Persian and indus etc civilisations... once the Islamic armies had no one else to conquer and steal from their empire went backwards
@@Yimelloin Europe ofcourse.
Imagine if thousands of years ago someone stole the English crown and sceptre and put it in their museum and refused to give it up, poms would probably be livid.
Let's do that.🤣
They'll do anything to get it back, heck probably even start a war or something.
jokes on you, the diamond that adorns it was from India anyway!
lol it is from India😂😂
They would wage war for it 😂
What I understood from the comments is that the British people are proud of their legacy of colonialism. They see nothing wrong with how these articles were acquired. A vast majority still believe that they are superior to other cultures. They think that developing countries can't be trusted with preserving their own heritage. Their mindset is still colonial.
Exactly it’s so weird that they think this is ok
Stealing is ok right? But i get your point they cant preserve their own cultural history.
@Edward Shearmur Promoting Culture is not Colonising India is not better than English in cricket We are nowadays doing good and We were always Rich We were the richest during mughal empire
Thief generation to next generation.
@Edward Shearmur See this is the attitude people have Problem with, The Soo called Royal Family should acknowledge that they were no colonizers, they were just another Brutal Monarchy who left countries in Pieces, The Amount Money stolen By Britain, Thry won't be able to pay back in 100 yrs soo there's no point in that, People just want they stop calling themselves Great, They were just one of worst people May be not as Bad as German or Japanese but that doesn't make them Good
The British didn't just loot national treasures, some were also destroyed such as the Singapore Stone which had centuries old Javanese or Sanskrit inscription.
the british also destroyed the parthenon in athens, elgin stole the parthenon marbles and he also damaged part of the erechtheion so he can stole one of the original maiden statutes.
@@mikerazor8246 You're a liar. The Ottomans destroyed the Parthenon.
Singapore Stone sounds like something from a fiction novel written by an 8 year old Filipino.
Yeah the Parthenon information is incorrect, it was seen of little value by the Ottomans and actually damaged during a conflict with them and the Venetians, so this nobleman went through this long ordeal to acquire the pieces in order to spare them from the long period of dereliction that had occurred under the Ottomans
The slab was blown up in 1843 during British colonial rule to clear and widen the passageway at the river mouth to make space for a fort and the quarters of its commander D.H. Stevenson. The Stone, now displayed at the National Museum of Singapore, was designated by the museum as one of 11 National Treasures of Singapore in January 2006,
As a Sri Lankan it's sad to see our artifacts in British museum 😞 Those artifacts are not just things. It's our heritage. Our history 😢
Theyre our history now lol
Finders keepers
"Finders keepers" makes you a thief/burglar with a motto@@OCGangsta . It's not anything to be proud of
@@jerryjiang6009 Well the Museum does make Money from donations or from the gift shops
@@LeodisTrainSpotter Your point is? Objects should belong to the creators unless they were legally and lawfully purchased or inherited. Taking them without consent equals thievery
Some Country: *Has some Ancient History*
Britain: is for me?
Your pfp describes what the British thought when they saw those artifacts
Lul
@@ae4042 bruhh
☺
👉👈
Is for me?
why do you have a an interrogation sign. I think it is in fact:
british:it is for me! 👿
When I visited Taj Mahal, all the engraved precious stones were missing, some of it were stolen by the locals, but most of it is in British museum.
If Britishers could they would have taken uprooted whole tajmahal as such and taken it to the London. if it was possible
no, no they didnt
@MsMissyand you get to decide what did and didn't happen?
@@kkesarr and you can apparently?
At least it’s the stones are in a place where people can see them rather them
being sold on the black market.
I still remember the words that my tourist guide in Athens said when she painfully had to show us the copies of the marbles of the Parthenon instead of the original ones, kept inside the British Museum.
She said:"When I visited the British museum they called Lord Elgin an important archeologist for bringing the marbles to England, but I call him a thief."
@JHB Luck destroying a piece of history is *NOT* equal to the repatriation of stolen artifacts, and *you* as someone that has no first hand experience and coloring your glasses with emotions in something that happened over a 100 years ago has no right to feel angry about historical facts and depictions of such things, rather you should accept these things as facts and something to be viewed with an objective lens and be learned upon
Tangina pare, ikinagagalit mo pa ung nangyari nung panahon ng kanununuan mo? Walang kwenta yang sintementong yan, sa halip na pagaralan mo dinadaan mo sa emosyon? Tsk
@@zaneluman7573 you didn't understand anything.
1) I didn't say that these pieces shouldn't stay in a museum.
2) I said that the Greek museum had to show copies of the marbles of the Parthenon because the originals are inside the British Museum.
Shouldn't the citizens of Athens and Greece be the first ones to have the right and the possibility to see the masterpieces that were created by they ancestors?
3) why are Greek people supposed to make the effort to travel all the way to England to see those masterpieces (which are as important as the naked structure of the Parthenon you see in Athens today)?
My tourist guide was lucky enough to get to see them once in her lifetime in London, but who knows how many Greek people will never get a chance to see those sculptures, because those are in London.
Luca Godina i love you😭 that’s exactly how i was gonna answer
I’m Greek and English and I’m sorry but the only reason the English took the marbles was because they were in danger of being destroyed, no one cared for the Parthenon until the English archaeologists can with was used as a store for weapons and destroyed multiple times, as someone who is fiercely proud of their Greek heritage I would much rather the marbles be safe in Britain than dust in Athens which they would’ve been without English intervention
@@caradowland5530 Indeed, but now it's the time for Britain to return them back to Athens. Especially since the new Acropolis museum is now operating which is quite advanced and very capable of hosting those pieces and in perfect shape.
I'm a brazilian of mixed race, a descendant from the Benin people. Last year, i got a free scholarship on England and managed to visit the British Museum 6 times - which wasnt nearly enough to get to see half of it -, and the moment i saw the Benin bronzes i just. cried. my ancestors, stolen from their land, taken to Brazil as slaves, their beautiful culture stolen and taken to England, and somehow I managed to unite both of these things and get to see them. It was an emotional roller coaster!
who sold you? I am also mixed race and a descendant of Nigerians. I want nothing to do with that part of Africa because they sold my ancestors as slaves to the Spanish and British.
@@BlitzOfTheReichwho brought them as slaves to Brazil? Portugal. Who manipulated the tribes in Africa so they would give each other to the colonizers? Also Portugal!
@@debochandodoesnt change the fact that African rulers and elites still sold slaves to Europeans
Britain was a pioneer in the excavation of ancient and forgotten cultures, with explorers going above and beyond even risking their lives to find lost cultures and structures that time has forgotten. Until then most people couldn't have cared less about ancient and forgotten societies and anything surrounding them. Locals would also usually use materials from ancient structures to build other things, and they would've been dismantled over time..........
Learn world history, start with the trans-saharan s|ave trade.........
They came, they saw, they stole.
they conquered
@@WhatAreFingers no, "they divided and conquer"
@@kolyxix that how they conquered
@@chev3569 yep, they split india into 2 countries. India and Pakistan, ruining the entire country and creating more conflict.
"Description of a thief"
I think it’s a good idea to have a massive museum, showcasing all the amazing things about humans and history, but they should be gifted to the museum by various countries, not stolen. 🤨
I do think that the artefacts should only return if they have somewhere safe that the country wants to keep it. If it doesn’t, I think Britain should pay for it, as long as it’s a reasonable request, and the country is fairly small/under-developed.
WORLD MUSEUM LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
@@kamartaylor7963 the middle east is a horrible place to place a museum
@@Cecilia-ky3uw It's a horrible place for anything.
@@louduva9849 Well I guess so
The british museum to greece : we can't return the marbles of the parthenon to you because you don't have a museum to display them in
Greece: *builds the acropolis museum *
The british museum: ok yes BUT-
Same thing with Egypt they built the biggest museum in the world
If they thought the Greeks would return them they would no doubt regularly lend them to them...
@@martinmcnulty8155 why should greece return them?
@@frostedcherrypie5440 Why should the British museum lend them to them? And I won't go in to the argument of Britain buying them from their legal owners at the time...
@@martinmcnulty8155does having parts of a singular temple scattered all around the globe make sense to you? They were stolen not legally bought
A thief can never have a title superior to those of the original owners
@anton_398 By being the most uncivilized? Sounds like mere projection to me.
@bisiwura3290 you’ve basically summarised the principle of _nemo dat_ - a foundation of English/British law 🤣 ironic!
@anton_398 By looting us to the drain ? Yeah right looted us for hundreds of years, built railways to transfer ''our stolen resources'' to London ,burned down thousands of books which contained our history, distorted our history(Yes there's a law suit still going against UK for distorting the history of South Asian countries),stole our indigenous medicines and created tablets from them ...and then have the audacity to call us poor and uncivilized when there are literally Buddhist and Hindu temples dated back to the time when British were living cave men life(Yes you can look it up if you don't believe me)
You know what there's no point of arguing with people like you who lives with colonial mindsets ...and look at Britain now the poorest nation in Europe after Ukraine with corruptness sky rocketing and soon to be taken over by the former colonies ....you know what let them live like that , because they stayed in our nations illegally for more than 250 years so now those people are living in their nations illegally
Such a great time to live ooh
@anton_398 By looting us to the drain ? Yeah right looted us for hundreds of years, built railways to transfer ''our stolen resources'' to London ,burned down thousands of books which contained our history, distorted our history(Yes there's a law suit still going against UK for distorting the history of South Asian countries),stole our indigenous medicines and created tablets from them ...and then have the audacity to call us poor and uncivilized when there are literally Buddhist and Hindu temples dated back to the time when British were living cave men life(Yes you can look it up if you don't believe me)
You know what there's no point of arguing with people like you who lives with colonial mindsets ...and look at Britain now the poorest nation in Europe after Ukraine with corruptness sky rocketing and soon to be taken over by the former colonies ....you know what let them live like that , because they stayed in our nations illegally for more than 250 years so now those people are living in their nations illegally
Such a great time to live ooh
they were sold.
if a buy a car im not a thief.
So basically the Indiana Jones series is about the greatest thief of all time.
Not as bad as Taiwan
“That belongs in a museum”
always has been
Hate to hear it, but yes
@@KCJbomberFTW Taiwan actually saved those artifacts by stealing them, a weird twist of history.
It’s a solid proof that Britain is not ashamed of its crime history.
why would we be ashamed we didnt do nothing
@@captainkenzie6873 Did you failed history class?
@@captainkenzie6873 ahhh double negative …
@@captainkenzie6873
Britain are great now because all the crimes they did in the past lol
But hey I'm not shaming you because now most people are good and have nothing to do with what their ancestors did
How bout quit getting robbed over and over again.
I saw a comment and it will never leave my head. If for example, the Royal British Crown was stolen, it would be seen as a worldwide crime. How ironic that it's completely okay to steal another country's entire history while if ONE crown made up of stolen jewels were to be stolen, it would cause international dismay..
history is wirtten by victors, like it or not. Plus is it only uk to blame for what happened? Whats about corrupt officials who were concerned about their own wealth rather than the development of their own country to oppose colonial empires?
@@jadequincy9177 so if corrupt officials were really the problem, and then came a time when Americans own the British isles, and try to shift the royal crown to DC because "it doesn't deserve to be in a place where there's no power", and the ministers in the isles would be okay with it because it would mean a better position with the rulers, would you call it a conqueror's interest or stealing hands?
@@kaushiksaikadali7460 well they are both products of the same west European civilization, it would make no sense to demonstratively rob your ally and ignite civil unrest in UK. You could rather make them rely on your economy and military power so that you can have them in your pocket (what Americans actually do). Plus UK is top 5 world economy and possess nuclear power that's why it would be quite foolish of US to start such a conflict - neither Americans nor British will understand and they won't gain any profit from it, especially when they already share many common enemies such as China and Russia
Hehe, welllllllll, in the Netherlands one of the British crowns was put l, and still is, up for display after we stole it. Interestingly, a lot of royal made crowns where gifted to other countries by the British as a sign of trust. On the voyage to gift one of these the duch marine interfered and took the British boat and everything it owns.
And honestly, who cares if the crown was stolen 100+ years ago? If it was today sure people would be mad, but when it's antiant history?
@@jadequincy9177 What about The gold and jewels the British empire stole?
In 1972 while viewing the British Museum of Art I was astounded at the vast collection of Ancient Egyptian artifacts and mummies that were on display. Back then I thought that these pieces should be returned to Egypt
Everyone: why do you have so many artifacts?
British museum: the secret ingredient is crime.
The so-called "British" Museum even steals artefacts from other parts of the United Kingdom. Whenever an important find is made anywhere in the UK, it automatically ends up in the storerooms of the British Museum. They have so avariciously grabbed anything and everything that they couldn't possibly display all of "their" artefacts if they began rolling displays for the next 1,000 years!
This culture of "grabbing" anything and everything must end!
Facts
@@rickbear7249 shouldve been called "the grinch's museum"
Super Hans
@Charles conquest is theft so i'm not really sure what you're trying to prove here buddy...
"How do you think your ancestors got these? Did they pay the fair price or did they take it like they took everything else?"
-Erik Killmonger
favorite quote from my favorite scene in that entire movie
It's a shame that many of the white audience didnt understand the meaning of that line
@@caspermac yep, they shouldn't have killed killmonger off, he was a great character
According to British courts the Kohinoor was a gift to Queen Victoria.
Like India gives gifts that are not ladoos!
@@hannahpaul3256 oh man, i didn't know ancient africans were all peaceful and never once looted their neighbours and rivals in wars
"The British Museum‚ The only museum that has nothing British"
@Indian Atheist Maybe you should educate yourself regarding the history of what is india today, before the british. The prototypical exploitation culture.
@Average Soviet Gamer
Its not
Their is no 'godess shiva'only godess zhiva,'godess shiva'is missprounantion of slavic name ziva,and the name ziva comes from slavic word zivot=zhee.wot.=life.
Because they stole everything, from silk to tea
This sentence doesnt add up. Out of which museums?🤣 i know a ton that dont have anything british
British museum ❎
Shameless thief museum ✅
Other countries: yes I have made this thing
British: "our" thing
Omg,i am dying
Did they really make it? Or does it date from a previous civilisation?
@QE ornotQE I see what you mean! Yes, all made by earthlings! Alien civilizations were not involved in the creation of the Pyramids, Easter Island heads or Nazca lines.
“Oh don’t worry, maybe I’ll let you borrow back this item that I stole from you. Aren’t I generous?”
Comrade
Imagine having to travel to the other side of the world just to see a part of your own culture
I thank the brits for preserving them, for most of my culture has been lost due to japanese occupation.
@@finnian3931 you sound like you're suffering from Stockholm
I think that all the colonial powers should have to give back everything they stole from the people who where affected by this including the 45 trillion usd that uk stole from india!
@@finnian3931 You need a psychologist
Even worse, it's London 😰
Half of the items are transferred to the Queen’s personal collection. This was deliberately done so communities couldn’t claim these items back. Example- Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj’s Gold and diamond studded sword.
Well that's what you get for being colonised. Should have been more advanced I guess. Rule Britannia.
hank jones small Britain is a dinosaur of a country.
@hank how did you manage to express such lack of intellect in just one UA-cam comment
@@hankjones7054 Well that's what you say when you can't match cultural ethics of others better than you
@@hankjones7054 Can't believe you're justifying colonialism and all the other horrible things that happened because of it.
I didn't realize museum artifacts had stories like this behind them. I thought they were discovered on archaeology digs and such, so I didn't get why people were demanding them back. But in this case you have this man who never saw his country's artifacts until he went to a different country. That is kind of sad.
I am an Indian and British literally stole all our precious artifacts. Even the crown that queen proudly used to wear was "Kohinoor" which the British forcefully took from us. But one day, one day we take it all back.
"The sun never sets in the British Empire coz even god doesn't trust the British in the dark" - sashi tharoor
Actually that a Spanish phrase so they stole that's too
@@robespierre466 it's not stolen it was mentioned by an indian in the debate over what Britishers did to india and its wealth.
U stole that from another comment
@@vijaykoul5147 That phrase was first used by the Spanish.
Even india is bad
Not all artifacts are in the British Museum, India's Kohinoor Diamond is studded on Her Majesty the Queen's Crown and boy , will we have a hard time getting that one back!
it was the first ever museum, at the time, giving the stuff back meant losing the idea of museums all together.
Ive heard from my friend it was given as a gift
THE KOHINOOR DIAMOND ISNT YOURS
I t was surrendered by Duleep Singh who was just nine years old at that time so yeah it wasn't gifted nor was it forcibly taken...ig there was some kind of treaty..
we bought that not our problem if you accepted smack head prices.
" *They Destroyed our Future and stole our past* "
I wish this had more likes cause PREACH!!
great word!
TRUE
Rule Britannia Britannia ruled the waves Britain never never never shall be slaves !!
@@Gambo517 they made us slaves.
They better not charge entry fee for anyone to see these beautiful works of arts from around the world.
to be fair, it is free entry for all
They don't charge. However at the louvre, the vatican and pretty much all museums in mainland Europe and the USA you'll have to pay to see their stolen artifacts.
the fact that an *Egyptian* museum exists in Berlin solely because of stolen artifacts just makes me wonder how many museums Egypt could open if they get their artifacts, from all over the world, back.
Yeah... They could open as many museums as they want and break apart world's heritage with unprofessional practices. But good that those artifacts are kept safe in Germany for now.
Most of the Egyptian stuff was actually stolen by local people from the tombs, temples and graves. Why do you think the stuff Berlin has is stolen? The archaeologists had permits and were only allowed to take a portion of the finds out, hence why the King Tut mask is in Egypt rather than at Downton Abbey.
@@ElGrandoCaymano First of all tutankhamun is not a king. Downton abbey is a drama not a place and again, the artifacts were stolen from Egypt. Putting in a musem doesn't justify stealth.
@@SV-tz8do King Tut's not a king? And Downton Abbey had no role? You've obviously never been there or else you seriously misunderstand satire...
@@ElGrandoCaymano tutankhamun was a pharaoh not a king, two different titles. Downton abbey is a drama, not a real place. Maybe your refering to the real estate that inspired Downton abbey where the funding for the search of the mask came, but what does that have to do with satire exactly?
Perfectly summed up - "you cannot claim to be an encyclopaedic collector of stolen items". British museum should be renamed as the 'vault of the thieves guild'
Yessir
Idk man less then 1 percent of the items are stolen (remember there are millions of items) so yeah I think that the British must is a pretty good name.
*"The Pirate's Valut"*
"Did someone say vault?" - Mercer Frey
@@pas5735 then how come everybody comes to the British museum for the non-british artifacts. It's literally all the British museum is known for
Now I understand that museum scene in ‘Black Panther’
@Brian Johnson Yeah...
Yep first thing I thought of
Brian Johnson same
Congrats, for getting your education from Marvel movies!
@@wolfgangkranek376 says something about the education system.
These stolen artifacts should all be returned to its origins. It's just a disgrace to showcase these in a museum by the people who stole it. Shows the low humanity can get.
Land: *exists*
The British: Hippity hoppity this is my property
Oo ah up the ra
How about you go after the CCP who are doing that at this very second?
@@averageGoat_meh_eh_eh_eh don't you think we are?
@@averageGoat_meh_eh_eh_eh because, it was apart of China since the ancient times, but they only lost it due to wars and unfair treaties
@@barnythepurpledinosaur9689 you don't get to destroy your own cultural heritage, through your pitiful "great leap forward", and then claim land that once belonged to a dynasty that has no relation to the cess pool that is the ccp.
You call it a museum in Britain, We call it Chor-Bazar here in India....👍👍👍
Why don't you have likes ? :v
Hahahhaha perfect 😂
Bilkul sahi kaha bhai
Hahaha, good one
I'm not Indian but I understand it and you did a good one on them XD
The sad part with Greece and the stolen artifacts is that Elgin took more things and with his trip back to his country he lost them in the sea because the ship couldn’t bear the weight
Oh 😢
:/
Should have left them for the Turks to use as target practise then ?.
exactly, we lost so many important artifacts that have never been found, even after countless years of searching. they're part of our culture and it really hurts me that they were lost because someone was greedy and irresponsible. he treated them like simple rocks and didnt give them the respect they deserved.
@@552019 idk maybe you could give them back to Greece. I don't know if you got the new but the Turks don't own Athens anymore
When I travelled to the British museum for the first time in 2016, I was stunned to find out it had an entire collection of Chinese artifacts that spanned the entirety of the Chinese civilization, from Neolithic Age to 1949, some of the items were so rare that you can't even find in China.
and in showroom No.95, an astonishing display of all the Chinese porcelain they looted from imperial China during the opium war, including the rarest Yuan Blue and white porcelain dragon vase.
it was a very disheartening visit, I left with tears on my face
Well they exist today for a reason, the British museum.
These items will remain there to shame the Chinese how silly and weak their forefathers were.
@@Zelenskyy9 Preserving stolen artifacts to shame a nation is hardly a noble cause. Let's focus on understanding history and fostering mutual respect, acknowledging that past actions don't define the strength of a people. Museums should be spaces for cultural exchange, not perpetuating narratives of conquest and humiliation.
Sorry 😢
Thankfully the British museum saved those Chinese artifacts from the cultural revolution.
‘LENDING the bronze statues to the nigerians’ whew that sentence had me heated asf
Yes, one would think the country of Benin would have a better claim to the Benin bronzes than Nigeria.
@@ElGrandoCaymano the Benin kingdom where the artifacts were stolen from is in present day Nigeria, not to be mistaken with Benin republic a country that neighbours Nigeria.
i would be like... yeah lend them to us... we will return them cough cough
Where would they end up though? A rich man's private collection? Possibly, possibly not.
@@ElGrandoCaymano Modern day Benin isn't actually the same Benin. What we know today as Benin used to be called Dahomey, while the historical Benin was in Southwest Nigeria.
How many conflicts you wanna create?
British history: yes
HMMM I THINK WE CAN USE A STRAIGHT LINE TO CREATE A SINGLE COUNTRY OUT OF THESE MULTIPLE CONFLICTING GROUPS WE OWN
@@naur6972 Did you steal some artifacts or loot the entire continent of Asia?
What you looking at r u fr ? They killed the people they stole from did u even watched the video
Interesting fact. America is stolen land
How many nations you wanna create?
British History: 43
Disputed ownership" is a typically British way of saying something is stolen. And as John Oliver once said: "The British Museum is basically an active crime scene".
I agree
its disputed because the items were sold. now a tangentially related agent wants to redact the deal.
YOU HAVE NO CLAIMS
I’m Iraqi and some of our stuff is at the British museum, even tho I might never get to see it face to face and that the British (army, rulers, etc) who divided us are the ones to own it but I’m still glad they have it. I know my government would never be able to take care of anything which is honestly sad
يي صح مافي تقدير للفن هنا بس السرقه تبقى خطا
Where you all go wrong in life is by saying the British... we didn't and don't have any say in what our government decide... similar to the people of palestine, they voted in hamas and that doesn't yield great results for them.
@@شمس-ي2ب1ن صح والله مع العلم اني اكره الغرب كره ما يعلمه إلا الله
@@benjeffery9958 sorry about that I meant it as the British rulers and army (and those who stand with them)
thanks for being honest, instead of just blaming or whining
'If looting is an art: Britain is a Picasso...' 😆
I think they actually have a Picasso in their!
@WISDOM ELVES aww too bad😂 our stuff now.
@@na8094 we don't care, cry all you want.
tbf britans stealing of history is literally what every other country wouldve done if they had succeeded in colonialism.
lol
Person entering the museum- I can’t wait to learn about the culture of British people
*ohhhhhhh I see* Never mind
Mhmm but the thing is who wants to know about British culture and history. It's mostly known, all they did was colonize anything they could get their hands on.
@@crishell9652 and their disgusting food. Sry but black pudding 🤢🤮
@@freepalestine7687 america did the same to native americans now they are in american museum and British.
@@freepalestine7687 The only item in a British (or English, really) food museum would be a plate of baked beans and canned mushy peas on toast, and it'd be labelled as "breakfast".
@@Chino.12oo 'Americans'?? Those were Europeans.
The British Were Basically Like My 5 Year Old Nephew When He Visits My House.
LOL
I still remember my limited edition meta Pikachu 😢
@@geetanshupreti4625 Nerd 😒
He terrorizes everything and takes anything he pleases when he leave? 😂
LOL🤣🤣
I think its better if its kept there, in my home country there's mountains with manmade holes in them where my ancestors lived and there were many precious artifacts. But locals and tourists took them and now they're essentially lost, it wouldve been better for them to be preserved in the museum for thousands to see.
The word 'LOOT' itself was stolen from Hindi{Indian language) dictionary and was added to english dictionary.
@Koruki um i dont think the commenter was talking about artifacts
@@enaya.3728 so its stealing, "SomeonePlayzzz"
@@mswijn Nah my name isn’t from India so shut up ✋
@@enaya.3728 Learn how to make thumbnail rather than wasting your time reading my comment and replying. You ain't brit so, shut the F up
languages always evolve from each other
Imagine chilling in your home and then having someone intrude and steal all your valuable items. Then years later going to another place to see that in someone else's house those who stole from you are thriving and proudly display and profit from the things that originally belonged to your home. To then politely ask for them to be returned only to be ignored or told that they could only lend them to you for a while.
That’s how unfair I imagine this being
They are safer in British hands. Benin has been in constant war since the 60s. Imagine grenades constantly going off in your house, but the things you have are now safe in the strangers house.
@@tubeguy4066 thats not for you to decide. If they belong to a certain country as the thief that stole them it’s only right to give it back. Regardless of its condition afterwards. That’s not up to you nor is it your business. I’m sure majority of us Asian counties will take of what is ours thank you very much.
exept for the fact that you can just go there, the doors unlocked
@@tubeguy4066 don't just say nonsense they're clearly using it for their profit, the why Egyptian artifacts aren't given back yet? Egypt had the 9th strongest army in the world, way stronger than UK so it's not up to them to worry about our culture, it's ours
@@tubeguy4066 I wonder why civil unrest has been occurring since its independence 😐
Not just the British, a lot of Vietnamese royal artifacts were looted during colonial era and ended up in French museums in Paris.
So what, its theirs now, forget about it
@@sajenin3659 let's just imagine this. I steal your assets then after sometimes you accuse and ask me to return them back to you but I will just show you the face "So what, its mine now, forget about it." :)
@@sajenin3659 If you ever get robbed, I guess you won't be looking to get your stuff back. You'll just give it away to the robbers.
Same can be said with Korean artifacts in Japan.
@@intreoo i think that's different
They probably stole my childhood toys, Give it back to me!
I heard people using the justification “The artifacts would be destroyed in their land of origin.”
And since then, I knew theives will always find a way.
In some cases they’re right. Like in religious wars where people purposely destroy architecture and objects of their perceived enemies.
Most of it wouldnt have been discovered without the British & privately owned. More people appreciate it in London than some desert somewhere.
@@Joe-nm2lm Classic orientalism.
@@Cergun_ don't care about ur opinion just like the museum
Because it’s true in a lot of cases
"The British Museum is full of stolen artifacts"
*Every sixty seconds in Africa, a minute passes*
But that minute belongs to the British
Ah, yes.
Should have done a better job protecting them I guess, it’s not like that’s a common theme throughout the entirety of human history
@@WrenchedAdvice exactly its only the British how poor and low can you be to even go out and take what's not yours? Sadly enough you say my ancestors should have protected their OWN artifacts in their OWN land..smh. some ppl WILL NEVER get it
@@Queengalexxi Why do you lot forget forget that humanity as always been like that, even African Empires conquered and took other people's stuff, the Zulus were far more brutal to other Africans than the British Empire ever was
Somewhere in a British school: If David has two artifacts and Dinesh has two artifacts, then how many artifacts is David going to have?
um 2 sir :,(
Edit: I absolutely do not understand how and why did I write 2 here. Apologies
haha :D
2+2=4 sir :D
David will have 3 and Dinesh (who is an awkward, socially inept child) gave David one of his artifacts in gratitude for David not allowing the school bullies to torment little Dinesh.
@@TheSteveRobinson And David goes on to racially abuse, torment, systematically loot Dinesh and kills his kins. While growing his own wealth and draining everything out of once very rich people.
@@omeshsingh7072 Perhaps if little Dinesh and his friends joined together, the situation might have been different. But, they didn't. So, 10 Davids dominated 10,000 Dinesh'es. C'est la vie.
The country with the bad history.....
Half the world: "You stole our artifacts!"
British Museum: "oh no! Anyway."
Britain didn’t steal anything
@@freeplex589 mhmm. And I suppose the french never surrendered?
@@freeplex589 and the sky is purple
@@deepspace385 stop spreading lies Britain didn’t steal anything
@@joeym5243 france has won the most victories ever. Look at napoleon
It's amazing how the movie Black Panther, touched on this topic a little bit, near the beginning of the movie.
I'll have to see it again and look out for that
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the title.
I love that movie and may the the King of Wakanda rest in peace now 👑
Ik right
Yes he even pointed out they were stolen from Africa
As John Oliver once said: "The British Museum is basically an active crime scene"
@chris muller Comparing people to artifacts that were forcibly taken from people under oppressive regimes? Great thinking,pal.
@Leo Maunsell I couldn't be more clearly talking to that guy
@Leo Maunsell I didn't deny you anything in the first place. What are you on about
@chris muller so your plan is to bankrupt The British Economy??
Alrighty then
Yes . Even they made their most valuable crown using a stolen diamond from India.
Three of Cambodia lost antiquities were stored in the storage room of the British museum and was recently signed it off back to us, but in condition of only returning after 3 years of displaying there. We're slowly restoring our precious treasure back together again, piece by piece, and I’m very relieved by that.
In India,we often refer to this museum as "Chor bazzar" or "Market of theives"
Why do Indian people visit?
😂😂
perfect depiction!!
@Flicks we are upset but not longer...
Britain should stop donating millions in aid to India each year
so basically when the rich people steal something its not illegal and they aren't punished for their action.
Unfortunately yes
there is a name for that its called capitalism
rich *white people
@ Alison Lopez , ?
Legality is only for those who don't have the power to make their own laws...
"The sun doesn't set in the British empire because even god doesn't trust the British in the dark"
Oh it's about to set
so God trusted british in the light instead? that's nice
@Your Majesty, I'm British.
That's hilarious.
Wow, this line...
They don’t take care of them. They’re better off there. Look what happen in Iraq…
British: "we stole those priceless artifacts fair and square" ..😂..
I mean it is true
Thieves will never say they stole it lol
@@hithere1456 how?
@@TheBoss-jc6le victors win prizes
We did raise an army and take it back 🤷.
Shouldn't worry about bronzes anyway this is the part where we all fight for the last of the planets resources anyway .
“How do you think your ancestors got these… You think they paid a fair price? Or did they take it like they took everything else?” - Erik Killmonger
First thing that came to my mind when I read the title of the video.😂
@@Panda-24 me too
Yeah the movie was really good and got probably a lot of people thinking if this was right. But I think the artifacts belong to there home country’s.
Well, they did pay a fair price for it for a lot of the artifacts. The people they were paying had stolen them, but they still paid for them.
(Still should give them back)
One of the most powerful scenes in the movie. It got people who never really thought about it, actually thinking "What now?".
If our "Taj Mahal" was movable, they would've shifted it to London.
Britishers?
😐
@@oscarosullivan4513 yeah thats what indians call the british
they took the jewel from there
Kohinoor yea
Giving back cultural artifacts is a must, but having the proper structure to preserve them and making them easy for other cultures to see them and learn their rich history is also a must. Sadly this second part seems to fail too
As a person who lives in Britain, I can assure you they do not teach us that these are stolen. They say that they traded large amounts to get these artefacts or "help" them with difficulties being faced in their country.
Sometimes they did trade stuff or sign agreements, but with other powers currently in control of said country. Like Elgin made a deal with the Ottomans for the Marbles as at that time they controlled Greece
Some of the Agreements signed in a lot of former colonies were only understood by the British
Our ancestors were swindled into signing away land and ownership of a lot of things
i thought it was kinda a given that they were stolen
Even the sanitized version sounds shady if you stop to think about them. Like Uriah’s all these people suffered hardships shortly after the British colonizers arrived. I wonder what caused them?
@@fini5294 strange coincidence huh
The maoi taken by the British is called Hoa Hakananai'a, which translates to "stolen friend".
In what language?
kickballfever eastern island ( Polynesian)
@@silvertavake5615 Cool...I just learned something!
@@kickballfever On Rapa Nui the native language is Rapanui or Pascuan.
@@CandyXVI Awesome...thanks for elaborating!
British took the Ariana Grande song too seriously. "I see it, I like it, I want it, I got it!"
But for free !
@@shyamlal6730 Lol yeah
War isn’t free
Bruh copied comment
😂😂😂
a country with no history to show....
“You cannot claim to be an encyclopaedic collector of stolen objects” this hit differently, speaking so much truth
Exactly
So when the cops bust down my door looking for stolen goods I can say "No that's my encyclopedia collection."
The owners of which are long dead
I'd go a step further and say if you want to be a true library of the world, why do you have to be based in GB? Why not move the whole museum to Nigeria instead, and give total ownership of the entire collection to their Government while you're at it.
If you see a problem with this logic (and it is problematic), then that's exactly what the British Museum is doing.
@@morgjones13 it's to be inherited by their peoples
I love how it's named the "British museum" but half of the items inside aren't even British
Edit: the way so many people don't understand I'm joking. Just pointing out the irony of it 😭😭??
Even the things they bought fair and square aren't British.
Good observation , they should rename their museum “Stolen Museum of non British objects” or something
@@silverdamascus2023 cant sale a heritage of generational culture and identity of a nation
Selling is would be a crime too
@@rediettadesse2828 Thanks to museums, you don't need to travel to Egypt to see ancient egyptian artifacts.
But museums shouldn't have stolen artifacts, countries need to make deals to allow other countries to have their artifacts.
It's called the British Museum since it's in Britain, duh.
I went to university near this museum and it was always so ironic to me how it was called the “British” museum when they barely had a small section dedicated to britain, the whole museum is just stolen things from everywhere
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Maybe because it was founded by a brit in...Britain? Lol
mate it is a museum from artefacts collected from all over the world by brits so it is called the british museum
@@bobbob8072 stolen * 😁
@@vashappeninjas africans didn't even care about their own artifacts until the 21st century
British museum ❌
Chor Bazaar ✅
Someone said "Egypt doesnt know the true value of the stone". Its like breaking into someones house and take things from them because they rarely use it
No its not the same. The british archarologist are responsible for the eygptian history we now have as they were ones that discovered it tutankhamen tomb and the others and many had been and continue to be vandalised like the sphinx.
"Rarely used" like the Library of Alexandria?
@@_JohnDoe Egyptian used that frequently, you gotta blame European for destroying that
@@janeslater8004 so if you found a gem burried in your neighborh`s backyard & you find it that means it owns you
Well, didn’t the French find the Rosetta stones in a wall used as filler? I mean, it didn’t seem they cared to much about it until the French and subsequently the British understood its value. It was just another brick in the wall.
Wow... calling a society "uncivilised"..but making off with their wealth..
Well that is their brand of civilised duh
I've been there. I remember that they have some old Egyptian structures. When I asked how they got those structures from Egypt to London, they told me that they moved entire buildings by disassembling them and then assembling those in London.
Uno whats funny, about every 2 years in primary. They’d take us to the British Museum and ofc they wouldn’t say anything about that.
That's how an Egyptian pyramid was moved to the New York Met.
British engineering and ingenuity has saved many artefacts and historical structures & objects from destruction. Now that these recently established countries have been brought into the 21st century they want these items returned...
Glad we look after all this amazing history
Can we have our history back?
British: But we are still looking at it
If it was rightly purchased then no :)
hahaha James Acaster
At least credit Acaster sheesh...joke thief. The irony is palpable, at least the museum has a plaque telling you where it came from.
And who is "we" exactly ? ...
jokes are told to be retold, thats the beauty of jokes. Unless you are a professional comedian that charges people money to see an original program there is nothing wrong with "stealing jokes". Plus I wasnt even aware at the time of writing where I heard it before. But just so you can put your internet handcuffs away TBZ, yes it was james acaster that I got it from.