Thank you coach. Quick question, will pulling arm in broken time attacked lose row by rule, or more practically be viewed by ref as preparation and losing row?
Broken time is intended for when your opponent is searching for your blade, thus ensuring you retain RoW. If both are attacking, the referee will likely call in favour of the fencer not using broken time. However, this will vary based on preparation or commitment to the attack. You will not lose RoW if you are attacking with Broken Time and your opponent is retreating or static.
This was my question exactly, but at least in the US there are "fashions" about how the rules are interpreted and in the last year or so (2023-24) attack into preparation has become more commonly called. The arm going back is a bit risky in that sense. It's hard to see sometimes why you wouldn't just disengage here if "broken time" with the arm is essentially a way to evade the parry.
Thank you for the video! :) Can you explain to me: Where is the difference between a broken time attack using your blade with a lunge, as the last example shows, and a feint-disengage, in which you start the feint with your body, as shown in the last video. The two actions seem very similar to me.
Happy to see the videos are going to good use! In regards to your question, the two actions are very similar in most respects. The differences are largely in minor changes in that the broken time action is typically a larger one whereas the feint-disengagement is quite small and does not actually require the fencer to pull their arm back (most disengagements see the point drop down and circle back up whereas the broken time action typically results in the arm being pulled back). The example in the earlier video illustrates a slight pulling of the arm, but not to the same extent as might be found with a broken time action. The videos are short, so there is not much time to go over all the variations, so apologies for not expanding further on the differences between the two.
@@osmfencing They certainly are :) Thank you very much for the explanation, I´ll be sure to try it! I´m indeed getting very tired of getting parried 24/7...
@@osmfencing Thanks for the video and the reply! I understand the different between the broken time action with arm and the feint-disengagement. However, when should we use broken time action with arm? It seems the feint-disengagement will always be faster because its smaller movements. It is also safer because pulling back arm can give opponent opportunity to do counter attack. Thanks for your reply in advance!
@@shengli8977 Disengages generally are better, hence them being taught first and more common. I find counter time to work best against opponents who prefer a larger distance (eg. tall french grip pommelers). If you crash distance, you can then pull your arm back in a counter time attack at a distance that is just slightly too close for them to hit you without doing infighting actions.
@@osmfencing You have excellent videos that a schlub like me needs.😊 I suspect the problem comes from recording audio through the camera 15 away from the speaker. It captures sound faintly and also reverberates through the large space. The solution, although costly, would be a lavalier mic, either RF (direct input to the camcorder but more costly) or to a little pocket recorder (as I do on home videos, but it's a pain to marry the separately recorded audio to the video with an editing program). Ask someone smarter than I am about these things (just about everyone). Good luck and keep these wonderful videos coming.
Thx for the videos
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Thank you coach. Quick question, will pulling arm in broken time attacked lose row by rule, or more practically be viewed by ref as preparation and losing row?
Broken time is intended for when your opponent is searching for your blade, thus ensuring you retain RoW. If both are attacking, the referee will likely call in favour of the fencer not using broken time. However, this will vary based on preparation or commitment to the attack. You will not lose RoW if you are attacking with Broken Time and your opponent is retreating or static.
@@osmfencing thank you! Agee that all the row discussions in fencing should include the dynamic situations of both sides. Thank you coach!
This was my question exactly, but at least in the US there are "fashions" about how the rules are interpreted and in the last year or so (2023-24) attack into preparation has become more commonly called. The arm going back is a bit risky in that sense. It's hard to see sometimes why you wouldn't just disengage here if "broken time" with the arm is essentially a way to evade the parry.
Thank you for the video! :) Can you explain to me: Where is the difference between a broken time attack using your blade with a lunge, as the last example shows, and a feint-disengage, in which you start the feint with your body, as shown in the last video. The two actions seem very similar to me.
Happy to see the videos are going to good use!
In regards to your question, the two actions are very similar in most respects. The differences are largely in minor changes in that the broken time action is typically a larger one whereas the feint-disengagement is quite small and does not actually require the fencer to pull their arm back (most disengagements see the point drop down and circle back up whereas the broken time action typically results in the arm being pulled back). The example in the earlier video illustrates a slight pulling of the arm, but not to the same extent as might be found with a broken time action. The videos are short, so there is not much time to go over all the variations, so apologies for not expanding further on the differences between the two.
@@osmfencing They certainly are :) Thank you very much for the explanation, I´ll be sure to try it! I´m indeed getting very tired of getting parried 24/7...
@@osmfencing Thanks for the video and the reply! I understand the different between the broken time action with arm and the feint-disengagement. However, when should we use broken time action with arm? It seems the feint-disengagement will always be faster because its smaller movements. It is also safer because pulling back arm can give opponent opportunity to do counter attack. Thanks for your reply in advance!
@@shengli8977 Disengages generally are better, hence them being taught first and more common. I find counter time to work best against opponents who prefer a larger distance (eg. tall french grip pommelers). If you crash distance, you can then pull your arm back in a counter time attack at a distance that is just slightly too close for them to hit you without doing infighting actions.
I greatly appreciate your videos. Very helpful to me as a new fencer. But please, invest in a lavalier, RF mic. It's exhausting to try to hear you.
The newer videos feature shotgun mics. However, the venue creates a lot of echo, but it is something we are working on.
Wanted to watch. Couldn't hear. Passed.
Apologies if you were unable to hear the content. Was it a sound quality issue or is the video sound too low?
@@osmfencing You have excellent videos that a schlub like me needs.😊 I suspect the problem comes from recording audio through the camera 15 away from the speaker. It captures sound faintly and also reverberates through the large space. The solution, although costly, would be a lavalier mic, either RF (direct input to the camcorder but more costly) or to a little pocket recorder (as I do on home videos, but it's a pain to marry the separately recorded audio to the video with an editing program). Ask someone smarter than I am about these things (just about everyone). Good luck and keep these wonderful videos coming.