Exploring Fort Douaumont With The VERDUN Developers I THE GREAT WAR Special
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
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We went to the Verdun area in France this winter and visited Fort Douaumont together with the developers of the video game VERDUN. They rebuilt the fort in their game and their knowledge of the sight shows when Indy is walking through the fort.
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Literature (excerpt):
Gilbert, Martin. The First World War. A Complete History, Holt Paperbacks, 2004.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. A Combat History of the First World War, Oxford University Press, 2013.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. 1914-1918, Profile Books, 2013.
Stone, Norman. World War One. A Short History, Penguin, 2008.
Keegan, John. The First World War, Vintage, 2000.
Hastings, Max. Catastrophe 1914. Europe Goes To War, Knopf, 2013.
Hirschfeld, Gerhard. Enzyklopädie Erster Weltkrieg, Schöningh Paderborn, 2004
Michalka, Wolfgang. Der Erste Weltkrieg. Wirkung, Wahrnehmung, Analyse, Seehamer Verlag GmbH, 2000
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The History Channel would be more watchable if it had shows like The Great War.
Make the History Channel great again!
Or just history again.
"Aliens"
no subscribe "Ancient Aliens", therefore, history.
Napoleon Bonaparte fake ancient aliens
Verdun is a dope game only needs more players.
Solanum Caput Yeah well I play it on my PS4 pro and from what I see the max is like two full maps for the us server and I don't know much about the player count for the PC
Aaron18Cvx most maps almost always full
Solanum Caput for PC players? if so that's awesome
Shame it's MP only I was really hoping for SP ;(
Yeah the PC playerbase is pretty strong for the game. Perhaps not Battlefield levels, but still nothing to complain about.
Speaking of WW2, I hope we don't have to wait 20 years for Indy and the gang to cover that war.
NWCtim Maybe 2019, when WW2 started 80 years ago ? :)
22 years to be exact.
(if we keep the 100 years ago thing)
Unless we started with the Second Sino-Japanese War, which officially broke out 80 years ago this July, and could easily argued to be the true beginning of WW2.
www.reddit.com/r/TheGreatWarChannel/comments/4ksvy2/will_you_guys_ever_do_a_ww2_channel_our_official/
Don't even spoil dude. WW1 was the war to end all wars
this game is a the ideal ww1 game, u die all the time from people u cant see, body parts are strewn around, blood and mud
Absolutely.
Noice
That sounds like a horrible game lol. Realistic, but not exactly fun lol.
@@maxdurk4624 actually as far as realistic shooters go its probably the most fun I've had of that genre, finding a nice spot and shooting others with your rifle avoiding detection and artillery while destroying kids is rly fun
@@leopoldo3884 why did you have to say kids
how did these men get from the netherlands to Verdun? There is a large electric fence running across the border with Belgium and there must be German troops all over the place, not even to mention how dangerous it must be at verdun with al the fighting and shelling going on. You guys have some balls
tunnels!
The Great War sneaky bastards... lets hope the black market smugglers wont find it.
I visited both Vaux and Douamont in March well worth the trip. Recommend to anyone interested in Ww1.
absolutely. fantastic experience for us too.
Have you Guys been to the Vosges? Currently in the planning stages of a trip, and any advice would me helpful. Also any tips re places to visit in Nov 2018 in either France or Belgium that are doing any ceremonies to mark the Armistice?
The Great War I'll go to the Vosges in summer :)
Drew Dixon I would recommend to visit the Austro-Hungarian forts near Trient (or Trento (don't know if you guys know the German or Italian name)) in south Tirol.
There where about 8 Austro-Hungarian and a few Italian forts on the mountains and going threw the tunnels and the Forts is really interesting.
Sorry my English is not the best. ;-)
sos Wildfang Ich kann Deutsch, wenn du fragen hast :)
A "live game" walk-through with the devs, this is a pretty cool episode.
Glad you liked the idea, we were not sure how it would work out but we are happy with the result.
It's an amazing idea, really. Kinda makes you think why this hasn't been done in this way before afaik.
thanks!
A true testament to the absolute destructive power of artillery. The designs of brilliant engineers, defenses that could have turned back entire divisions of infantry, were turned into so much lumpy earth; A mere whisper of the perfection of function it once was.
I bought Verdun because you guys, Indy. And I enjoy it a lot. The show and the game go hand and hand. Thanks for helping us Americans get more involved in a war that we are only taught the basics of.
Just wanted to thank you and the Verdun team for a fascinating episode, I personally visited the region in mid summer 2015 and found Douamont (on a beautiful, still summers evening, without another person there) to be very profoundly moving, the sound of just birdsong and the view over the forest that surrounds the site was such a paradox to the energy of hatred that prevailed there just over 100 years ago. Explaining to a friend about my experience, I said " it was so quiet that it was as if there was no sound left to describe the horror", which in retrospect was poetic but so so true. Thanks again
indeed, we've had similar feelings from time to time visiting the region..
Glorious Dutch accents
5:30 the WW1 titanic lol
DANNYonPC Aren't you Dutch?
DANNYonPC you are everywhere
@end, yes
@squd, can confirm
thanks for that :)
Graag gedaan :p
Wow, look at that fog, almost as if it was during the battle...
Putees are the new look for 2018.
Couldn't agree more.
GTAC Genkitexchange - Concur: nice Putees Indy!
Putees did look damn cool!
VERDUN GAME DEVELOPERS AND THE GREATWAR? MY WW1 boys are teaming up!!!! Love the games love the show.
I've never played the game, but I was just at Douaumont about a month ago. I first visited at night (Christmas Eve) because I didn't want to wait for daylight. They've rebuilt the main entrance and it was wide open, just walk right in.
I really enjoy these guys’ work
Amazing games that actually make you feel like you’re in the situations soldiers faced (shell shock not included)
I just really wish more people knew about these games and played them so we could experience a full lobby which massively increases immersion
And better development of course, Their funds are limited and can't really show their skills
Verdun is my one of my favourite games and deserves more players
Verdun is such a good game, it's sad that not a lot of people play the game
I've been there. Interesting place to visit. The whole landscape is covered in shell holes: all overgrown now.
What an incredible video, very haunting in that fog and excellent camera work. Fantastic to learn more about the forts and their design. I had no idea the fort in game was modeled so faithfully! An incredible game that succeeds to balance real life history, atmosphere and fun gameplay! Perhaps we could see more videos linking content from WW1 video games to the real history? My pick would the excellent Toy Soldiers, it really captures the grim destruction of the war through the less confronting lense of virtual model dioramas.
Not ruling that out.
THEY DID NOT PASS!!!!
Mt Bicepulous
The Italians also didn't pass threw the Alps to Vienna and where 1917 about 100 km pushed back.
sos Wildfang But they still won.
On the western front nobody really passed anywhere...well except for the germans through Belgium
LupoMMD You forgot the Kaiserschlacht, and the Austro-Hungarian and German break- throug at the Isonzo in 1917 !
Neil Hillis
They had cheats and hax. XD
As card carrying historian,( Phi Alpa Theta International History Honour Society ), I have watched all of the episodes.You and the crew of TGW have been exemplary in your objectivity. Your programme fills in and clarifies how and when certain incidents turned out the way they did. Thank you
I play a lot of Verdun and i really enjoy that you are teaming up with them. When i graduate school, im studying computer science btw. I wish to work together with the Verdun team at BlackmillGames
Cool idea to invite the Verdun developers over, more historical game developers should do interviews like this that go in depth about their historical inspiration.
* looking at you Paradox *.
Top 10 anime crossovers
hahahahah true
nnvist anime
"top 10 anime crossovers" is just a saying indicating yr hype two things are comin together, in this case it's the fact the youtube channel The Great War is crossing over w/ the fps game Verdun
nnvist It's a meme.
Idea for a cool follow-up to the Verdun game: "Mutiny 1917". You can do cool things like form committees, vote to refuse to go back to the trenches, wave red flags, sing the "Internationale", take the train back into Paris, and get court-martialed and executed.
Form a soviet among the troops to force an end to the war, collapse the Republic, and form a glorious new socialist future!!!
Later! OL J R :)
Ironically, I just bought the game last week and it's a blast while still keeping a good share of realism.
Would like to see Austria-Hungary in Verdun.
Austro-Hungarians where present at the western front.
Greetings from Austria!
sos Wildfang
I want to see the Isonzo front in the game.
Olim Yes, would be much cooler than "only" get The few thousand atilery man. ;-)
sos Wildfang
Exactly. Would be pretty nice, because all my anchestors fought for Austria-Hungary.
Olim My greatgrandpa fought in one of the Isonzo battles and Austria-Hungary is the nation that started the war but there where much more going on at this time and everyone was waiting for a war.
sos Wildfang
Yeah. One of my anchestors was an artillery guy, in the Rank of a Vormeister. Many fought in the Isonzo front, one even was an officer. Luckily, nobody died.
Greetings from Styria!
Hey Flo, if you're reading this message then go have a coffee break.
You've earned it man. We appreciate you.
We will have a Swimming Break in 15 minutes. Does that count?
Hey Indy: I just got done binge watching all 391 videos! It took me about two months, watching 6-7 videos per day. I've learned more about WWI than ever possibly wanted to know. But now what am I supposed to do?? I can't wait days between each video!! You must make them faster :-)
You are in luck, the next video will drop in just 7 hours.
thats not real binge watching!!! lol gotta pump them numbers up!
Visited this place as a child and once again in my mid 20-s. So many memories coming back. on a non related part, I actually drove a 95 Supercharged Z28 I had imported from the states around the last time I was there in early 2001. Still remember the echos of the exhaust driving through the woods and actually took a photo at the monument where it said they did not pass. Thanks for posting.
Love this type of content. Showing us around the real historical sites, telling the story of the battles and the people who fought there. Brings a refreshing taste of reality to it. Thank you. Keep up the good work and would love to see more of this type of thing!
😂😂 the dutch accent is gold didnt even know dutch people were in the develop team
'It ain't much if it ain't dutch'
ghostninja010 No way verdun game, you guys are actually particular Dutch? That's really cool. Goeie game!
marijn m zeker een goeie game
Inderdaad, core dev team is Nederlands, inclusief de drie founders, maar enkele freelancers werken vanuit abroad :)
VerdunGame oooh okee wel grappig man 😂
Hey I was wondering if you could do a "who did what" on General George Patton.
Or a "who did what" of Bernard Montgomery, he fought near the Belgian broader in the beginning of the war.
Empire He fought in the battle of St.Mihel, and trained the first 500 American Tank drivers.
Empire Nothing jk
Will get his episode.
The Great War Nice nice :D
I play verdun every day just about you guys are the best and its so great to see a collaboration with my favorite channel, The Great War
I have no doubt that my Grandfather would love "The Great War" series, and appreciate "Verdun" the game. Thanks guys, well done.
Duoaumount is always a bloodbath in the game.
Wait, those guys didn't learn from the Great War and they started a second one? What the hell is wrong with them!?
Right?
Because technology allowed for war to become mobile again and people apparently don't mind dying in droves quite as much if they are managing to take huge swaths of land in days or hours and capitulating countries in weeks that held out for years in the last one instead of being butchered for mere yards.
Yea. Wait, why are you guys making nukes? I think 12,000 nukes is enough.
+Farenhite+ no single nation has that many, likely not even all the nukes on the planet totals 12,000 operational warheads.
There were up to 70.000 nuclear warheads during the height of the cold war. Nowadays estimates vary between 10 and 15 thousand of which about 4000 are deployed. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_arms_race#/media/File:US_and_USSR_nuclear_stockpiles.svg).
Also it is very noteworthy, that in the last 70 years more than 2000 nukes have been detonated on this planet, most of those due to the USSR and the US. The combined explosive energy would equal about 35000 times the hiroshima nuclear bomb respectivly. (ua-cam.com/video/WAnqRQg-W0k/v-deo.html)
There is also the interesting hypothesis that this excessive use of nuclear arms may also have had an impact on the global climate, thought in my opinion there is not enough evidence yet to proof that claim. I just think it's an interesting sidenote.
Dear Indy and crew,
I have been a fan of The Great War channel on UA-cam since it was only a few months old. At the time my interest and knowledge in the Great War was pretty low. Since that day you guys have inspired me to learn everything I can about it. So much so that when my girlfriend and I went to Paris for ten days I insisted we spend some time exploring the battlefields of Verdun. It was a mind blowing experience to see the earth still so incredibly churned up 100 years later. It only hints to the hell those poor soldiers had to experience. The cemetery outside of the ossuary was a sobering reminder of the lives lost there during that battle. We explored the grounds and the cold damp tunnels of Fort Douaumont and Fort de Vaux. Our trip to Verdun was incredible and eye opening. I would never have had the experience if it weren't for your channel. So thank you, from the both of us, for the hard work you guys do every week to keep history alive.
Sincerely,
Mike F'ing Bond
Thanks Mr F'ing Bond
It’s a dark, somber place there.
I felt it almost physically.
Indy, you dapper man.
Thanks for the great video!
TacticalViper
Der echte? Der echte Viper?!
Abonnent seit RO2. ;-)
(Flüsternd) Mehr Verdun-Videos, bitte. Einfach ein Gameplay-Video
Natürlich ;)
Verdun, gerne. Muss nur Zeit finden :(
Keine Ursache.
Indy, you were a great host by asking some specific questions and allowed the game developers to explain not only the game but discussed their research of what they could find. The guests provided extra information and some great graphics to bolster their explanations.
Have been there two times, it´s an amazing experience. Fort Vaux, Ouvrage de Froideterre, the city of Verdun itself and many other places around Verdun are also worth a look.
You need at least one week to just get a hint of all the stuff you can visit there.
Wow I didn't know Samwell Tarly was also a developer for Verdun...
I hope you mean me
Thanks for this. I bought the game.
awesome, thanks!
Sweet episode. I visited that fort when I was stationed in Germany in the early 80's.
I play verdun on Xbox me and my friends play it religiously
A SWEDISH resident, working for a POLISH-GERMAN company, filming in FRANCE, together with a BRIT and to people from the NETHERLANDS.
Say what you want, but this is why I like the EU. :)
Douaumont is one of my favorite maps from in game! This was cool to see
I visited Verdun in 1998 with my unit and it is an incredibly tragic battlefield. It was never restored following the battle. The French mausoleum is so sad with the thousands of thousands of soldiers remains piled on top of each other. :(
If its ok to ask, were shotguns (or trench guns as soldiers in ww1 called it) used by the other allies or central powers?
I understand the German soldiers as well as German command complained about the US soldiers using them (calling them inhumane).
But I am unsure if other nations used them or how common were they.
None of the others officially used them on the front. Trench gun is a term used for a modified winchester design.
British military looked at using sawnoff shotguns but scrapped it due to the low rate offire and lack of range (ment man had to carry multiple weapons)
There is a French booklet on trench assaults that suggests using shotguns but not found anything on them using any.
Individual German troops used them if they could capture them.
i am early... time to make a joke
Nivelle did nothing wrong.
Gorbag Quick-Blades to be fair he did ok at verdun
Please excuse me, I have to go slam my head through reinforced concrete.
Gorbag Quick-Blades, And neither did Haig
neither hotzendorf and cadorna
I very much enjoyed getting to see the actual ruins, it is as close to being there as I will ever get and I am happy to have been able to see it.
Thank you to all of you who made this possible.
Great Episode from the Great War!
I love the show and I love the game Verdun! This was an awesome behind the scenes view of a map I spend many hours on in game! Thank you for all the hard work guys!
The Wonder Woman movie takes place during The War To End All Wars or The Great War or even World War 1. So I was wondering could you guys do a special analyzing the trailers. To see if its historically accurate.
knight of darkness lol
knight of darkness Is that question even relevant?
The trailers didn't give us much so far. Let's see what the movie holds.
Fact checking... at 0:10: "You're a man" - one accurate fact.
Cumulative total at 2:51: still one accurate fact.
Lmao
Are... are you wearing puttees?
yes
+The Great War love it 😂😂
The Great War ha😂
What a great job recreating the fort. I love that game. I wish I could visit the battlefields during the centennial.
The game is incredible. Thanks for all your hard work and time put into it, it definitely shows.
Could you do the first tank-to-tank engagement?
Probably in 2018
Arch Stanton Right,because that is when it happened but I was hoping for a special episode with more info.
if you're really desperate then go for "greatest tank battles tanks of great war"
Wojszach Don't worry I am good.
they covered this frist tank vs tank encounter and made full raport on that battle
Verdun > BF1
BF1 is bullshit WW1. Same engine as all their WW2 games. Running around with machine-guns and sub-machine guns!!
I love bf1 so much. I agree, it’s DEFINITELY not ww1, but it’s a fun game
Historically Realistic? 🚫
Historical Atmosphere? ✅
Sacrifices realism for one of the best gameplay and gunplay experiences of all time? ✅✅
The guns are reskins
@@leod-sigefast Not everyone was stuck with a bolt-action, which you’re more than welcome to use anyways, it’s still a viable option as it normally two shots and out ranges smgs.
I want to go to Verdun one day...the place looks so spooky yet beutiful in its way...Crazy how so many people died..and we still can see the landscapes still caved in...
WOW. Fantastic. Going to share this to my son who plays these games. Awesome how it brings it all to life the real place with the scenes from the game there too
i have this game and i like the game a lot :D
you know you've played too much verdun when the name douaumont gives you flashbacks.
This is the best UA-cam channel I've ever come across - absolutely riveting 🤗
One of the best episodes yet!
3:06 "you're gay"
it took me 10 seconds to understand that he was talking about the game
I'm liking the puttees indy 👍👍👍
Loveing the work your puting in, apsalutly amazeing by how much effort your guys put in.
I appreciate the great work you and your crew do to produce "The Great War", Your shows are well researched and presented with an even historical hand.
Keep up the great work
With respect
Ralph Newbanks
Indiana you look dapper asf
Hey! Verdun devs, I know you guys are reading these comments. I love your game, but please fix the pistol reloads! the slide locks back out of nowhere, even when the magazine isn't empty.
Xavier Israel I think you might have a better chance if you post this on the Verdun subreddit on Reddit
We are looking to fix this :)
Aaron18Cvx The just responded. Maybe not.
End Me lol well looks like a Verdun dev/s replied , good for him
Excellent video and very special to get those details about Douaumont from the developpers who spent countless hours modeling it in their game. I play Verdun from almost the beginning (back in the time there were only 3 maps and the French and Germans) and it's a great game. The evolution of this game was amazing. You're doing a very good work, like the Great War channel !
Thanks :)
wow on a perfect day too. i just did my speech for 10th grade on Verdun. keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!
INDIANA IS A *BADASS*
Is he?
I play Verdun
An excavation of that fort would be awesome. Like digging into that collapsed barracks
Thank you vm Indy and Verdun developers for their dedication
Indie, always when youre on a roadtrip at a old front you look like a somone who plunder some dead corpes from soliders ...
Too bad that, none of those turrets are playable, non of those mortals are playable, or those machine gun nest
Another great video, Indy and Team.
visited Verdun in the Late 1980's when I was stationed in Germany. Was one of the highlights of my tour of duty. I hope you visited the domed section of the battlefield and the Douaumont Ossuary. The tour was just prior to being deployed to the first Gulf War and was designed to give us an "idea" of trench warfare was like.
One of my most vivid memories was visiting a trench line still containing the soldiers remains and the tips of their bayonets could just still be seen poking out of the ground. they were buried alive by German artillery. We had a French Lieutenant as our guide and when we asked him how the French or any army was able to get them "over the top" knowing what faced them he could not answer my question.
We didn't make it to the Ossuary but we do have some more videos from the area which will drive home the point you make as well.
Is the thumbnail from the game of Verdun
(P.S. I love me some Verdun gaining)
It is a screenshot, yes.
The Great War Thanks! Keep up the good work, definitely one of my favorite channels!
Are those puttees Indy?
they sure are.
Indy and team, these Verdun videos are awesome! Your 3 guests are great
The WW1 Game Series are the best!
wasn't verdun the longest battle in the world?
It was
Well that's hard to tell, we don't really know about all the battles, and more importantly: How do you define „battle“?
in WWI or in the entire History? because Stalingrad was longer
Jonathan Car show I didn't say Stalingrad was the longest in History, I said it was longer than Verdun
Pipsy Verdun was way longer it lasted 9 months, 3 weeks and 6 days, while Stalingrad lasted 5 months, 1 week and 3 days. However Stalingrad still remains the bloodiest battle in history.
Where did solidiers go to the bathroom while in the trenches?
California TricksHots
I think they usually had either a bucket or some outhouse near the trench, though the outhouse was usually bombed.
They did actually build slit-trenches towards the back that acted as privies. But it was usually just a bucket to do your business in. Soldiers were put on regular ablution duties to empty them...probably as punishment!
Really cool to see you guys at Douaumont.
These specials are absolutely awesome. I almost want to buy a game console to play VERDUN now.
You can play it on computer too actually.
Verdun is better than Battlefield 1
gr8 b8 m8
It's true, though. The way that the ArmA series is better than Cowadoodoo.
one is a WW1 game from the ground up. The other one is a modern war game with a WW1 skin
I agree.
How exactly? Verdun isnt anything like WW1 except for maybe the weapons and the main gamemode. Other than that its just a pretty mediocre shooter.
Oh god. My least favorite Verdun map. I always get spawn trapped in the tunnels.
Such a good idea, Indie! Thanks!
Question for out of the trenches: How did the various gases used by both sides react with fire? I figure there would be problems using a flamethrower in the aftermath of a gas attack if the gas could caught fire. Love the show, cheers from Sweden!
for verdun player, HOW DO I SPOT THE FRICKING ENEMIES
go prone often, look around then run. repeat
do those guys do it full time as a job?
yeah they do, they're getting funded by a German TV program I think.
I am not sure if you are referring to our show or the game but the answer for both is: yes, full time.
The Great War cool! I meant the Verdun guys and my brother and I support you on patreon.
we indeed do :)
Really good episode. amazing work guys !
This was so good. Impressive knowledge from the game developers.
Can you do the African American involvement in WW1 as a special episode or something pls
They'll probably do that in 2018 when the American army becomes relevant.
Ok how about the Afro caribbeans in the British commonwealth army or the Africans in it or even in the French armies
Tandoori Man They have done good stuff about the war in Africa
Neil Hillis well French actually used Africans in France
knowledgeable Kiwi probably because it is quite obvious that white people fought in the war so you don't really need a special on this topic