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  • Indy and David Willey of the Tank Museum talk a bit about trucks and logistics during WW1 while sitting in some sweet vintage World War 1 trucks.
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  • @peterstickney7608
    @peterstickney7608 5 років тому +214

    An excellent episode! (Actually, I've been prepping a pitch to Flo for just this thing)
    Our family collection started with our 1918 FWD Model B (Four Wheel Drive 3-5 ton truck) It has grown and shrunk since then.
    It had been in the family since about 1925, building roads and plowing snow in New England until working retirement in 1965, restored to military condition, and
    we've been in the display circuit since. (Our proudest moment was leading the parade for the Military Vehicles Collector's Club (Now Military Vehicle Preservation Association)
    World Convention in 1986.)
    Consider the advantages of a truck over a horse team:
    1) You don't feed a truck when it isn't working.
    2) If a truck breaks, a mechanic or blacksmith can fix it. A horse needs a Doctor.
    3) A severely damaged truck can be repaired - even cannibalizing parts from other trucks. Horses have to be put down.
    4) Fuel for trucks (Gasoline/Petrol at that time) is more compact, easier to store, and doesn't attract vermin.
    5) Horses, for all their size and strength, are very fragile creatures. Mishandling, or lack of proper feed, will kill a horse, and they are susceptible to disease.
    Most of all, You can transport trucks more easily over oceans. The casualty rates of horses on transatlantic ships is appalling, and the ones that arrive alive are in bad shape due to lack of exercise.
    So - What could a First World War truck do?
    Most truck use was for logistical hauls between railheads and Divisional supply dumps. The usual load weight classes were 2-ton ( 1000 kg) or 3-ton (1500 kg).
    There were some heavier trucks, such as the Mack AC 5.5 and 7.5 tonners, but the medium trucks were much more numerous.
    A Motor Transport Company generally had 27 Cargo trucks, and 5 Support Vehicles (Fuel, Repair, HQ). Whenever possible, a single type of truck was used in the Company, to make maintenance and supply easier.
    Typical performance was about 90 miles per day (150 kn, roughly), at a speed of 10-15 miles/hour. ( It doesn't sound like much, but it's 5 times faster than a horse team.)
    Most trucks used by all nations were 2-wheel drive. The U.S. Jeffery/Nash Quad 2-ton, and FWD 3-5 ton, and the French Latil Artillery Prime Movers were 4-wheel drive vehicles.
    Cabs were open, seats were unsprung. Tires were, for the Medium and Heavy trucks, solid rubber - the pneumatic tire technology of the time wasn't up to supporting the higher weights of the trucks. This limited top speeds - high speeds on solid tires could cause sections of the tread to blow out, and separate from the wheel.
    Transmissions were, of course, manual - 3 or 4 forward speeds. Brakes were contracting bands on the rear wheels only on most trucks - the FWD and Quad had 4 Wheel braking through the driveline. In any case, the brakes were more "suggestions" than "orders". Most braking was done through downshifting.
    Steering could tend to be heavy, although some vehicles had gearboxes built into the steering gear to give a mechanical advantage.
    The solid tires do give a harsh ride (More so now, that they've aged). With the road conditions of the time, it didn't make much difference. Outside of a city or a reasonably-sized town,
    roads were not paved, and road surfaces were uneven. In Flanders, the ground turned to soft, sticky mud when wet, and a truck could sink in up to it's axles. The Four Wheel Drive trucks generally handled this better - chains were used to increase traction. It was still possible to get mired - The Better the Four Wheel Drive, the Further Out You Get Stuck.
    To give some scale to use of trucks in the U.S. Army, they had, in France, 37,0000 motor vehicles in total.
    Of the heavier trucks, there were
    17,500 FWD Model Bs built, 3000 of which were supplied to Britain, and about 100 to Russia.
    11,900 Jeffrey/Nash Quads, with a substantial number going to Britain and France.
    6,500 Mack ACs, with 2,000 going to Britain.
    Note that these are full production numbers - about half of this production made it to France, and the remainder
    was made up of purchases of pretty much every commercial truck type (Peerless, Packard, Federal, Republic, and Autocar, for the majority, but there were many manufacturers.)
    Reports by the Director of the Motor Transportation Corps at the War's end indicate that without the use of trucks, the AEF would only have been able to support an army of 400,000 men, rather than the 2,000,000 man army it was supporting in November 1918.
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    • @BHuang92
      @BHuang92 5 років тому +5

      Mack trucks became famous because of the great war. I heard that the US army had a whole column cross the country for some sort of demonstration. This was before paved roads were a thing. Most of the trucks came through the journey owing to the rugginess and reliability.

    • @peterstickney7608
      @peterstickney7608 5 років тому +12

      That would be the 1919 Transcontinental Motor Transport Corps Convoy.
      81 vehicles, including trailers, ranging from 5 5.5 ton Mack ACs, down to 9 Harley-Davidson and Indian Motorcycles.
      Of the heavies, there were the 5 Macks, 3 4-ton Rikers, 3 3-ton FWDs, 17 (I think) 3-ton Libertys (A specifically military standardized design for mass production by multiple firms) 6 1.5 tonners (Packard, White, and Garford), various shop and supply vehicles, 15 cars, 5 ambulances, and a tracked tractor.
      A full cross section of the U.S. Army's equipment at the time. It was accompanied by Lt. Colonel Dwight D. Eisenhower (Tank Corps, U.S. Army)as an official observer.
      The route was from Washington D.C. though Maryland, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, and California, finishing in San Francisco.
      Of the 8 vehicles that did not complete the run, 4 were unsatisfactory trailers, 2 were GMC vehicles lost to accidents, 1 was one of the Garford trucks, and the Militor was dropped out of the convoy in Stockton, CA, for reasons other than any mechanical failure.
      The main difficulties were poor driver training (Most were fresh recruits without even Basic Training, let alone Driver Training), Poor roads, once off the paved sections of the Lincoln Highway (It wasn't unusual for a truck to sink 4 feet into soft wand or mud), and weak bridges. (They attached Army Engineer Team replaced more than 90 bridges that gave way under the trucks.
      Of all the trucks, the Four Wheel Drive FWDs and Militor were considered the most satisfactory - they weren't stopped by any of the terrain, and spent a lot of time pulling other vehicles out, and towing deadlined trucks to repair points. The Macks worked well, but with their chain drives, were useless in soft going - sand or mud, didn't handle steep hills well, and tended to be overloaded, which contributed to their breakdown rate.
      The Convoy covered 3250 miles at an average speed of about 6 mph.
      It was a big deal when they arrived in a town - Dinners, Concerts, Dances, etc.

    • @rabihrac
      @rabihrac 5 років тому +2

      That's valuable information. Thanks !

    • @susanzahn4922
      @susanzahn4922 5 років тому +5

      See my comment following yours. I'm from Clintonville, home of FWD. :) I grew up watching their old WWI truck roll by in every parade.

    • @jordansmith4040
      @jordansmith4040 5 років тому +1

      Does anyone have any idea how reliable these trucks were? I was under the understanding early 20th century vehicles (pre 1930s perhaps) required constant repair when used heavily.

  • @foobloo101
    @foobloo101 5 років тому +214

    As someone who works on cars, that tidbit about how gas, brake, and clutch got standardized was awesome.

    • @FifinatorKlon
      @FifinatorKlon 5 років тому +20

      As someone who has absolutely no idea or interest in cars, that tidbit about how gas, break, and clutch got standardized was awesome.

    • @SirKittalot
      @SirKittalot 5 років тому +12

      As someone who owns a car, it's spelled 'brake' ;)

    • @foobloo101
      @foobloo101 5 років тому +1

      SirKittalot point taken.

    • @fien111
      @fien111 5 років тому +7

      Shame the British government didn't fix the whole "driving on the opposite side of the road" thing while they were at it. These trucks were being used in France, after all.

    • @Palifiox
      @Palifiox 5 років тому +8

      There was nothing to fix. Americans drive on the wrong side of the road. You also put you day and month the wrong way around and your spelling is mistaken as well ua-cam.com/video/4GMITokuHN4/v-deo.html

  • @timchristensen5352
    @timchristensen5352 5 років тому +32

    “Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics,” great quote! Thanks Indy & team for covering this critical topic

  • @PedroMDIX
    @PedroMDIX 5 років тому +88

    I almost cried when i saw the video,because of what happened here in Brazil with the National Museum...
    Everything lost,natural history of the americas,egyptian history,Brazilian Imperial History,man we are having a bad day...

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  5 років тому +61

      saw it on Twitter, not only a tragedy for Brasil but for the world.

    • @DeathOnSernpidal
      @DeathOnSernpidal 5 років тому +20

      That's a terrible loss. :(

    • @vatonage1599
      @vatonage1599 5 років тому +10

      Just saw the news about it now. Very depressing, especially with the loss of Luzia!

    • @UnintentionalSubmarine
      @UnintentionalSubmarine 5 років тому +11

      Yes, saw it on the news... very sad for you, for us all.

    • @TheRagingStorm98
      @TheRagingStorm98 5 років тому +1

      Mind if I ask what happened?

  • @Mondo762
    @Mondo762 5 років тому +42

    My father was a logistics expert in the US Army. Until very late in life he was teaching logistics to government agents.

    • @oddballsok
      @oddballsok 5 років тому

      and ? did they listen ?

  • @kingotime8977
    @kingotime8977 5 років тому +177

    Can we all just stop and apreciate this wonderful, significant and simply aspiring thumbnail.

    • @ISawABear
      @ISawABear 5 років тому +21

      King o Time im getting indiana jones flashbacks

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 5 років тому +3

      Cue Indiana Jones theme music! 🎶

    • @bob_._.
      @bob_._. 5 років тому +10

      Sorry, but you'll have to make due with Indiana Neidell theme music. ;^)

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 5 років тому +1

      @@bob_._.
      ROFL! 🤣

    • @oliversmith9200
      @oliversmith9200 4 роки тому

      Apparently not, King o Time, but, it's not for lack of general enthusiasm.

  • @bernardscheidle5679
    @bernardscheidle5679 2 роки тому +3

    I once knew a guy in the 1980s who was in his 80s, and he said that when he was in WW1 they would hard boil eggs in their shells by putting them in the big radiator opening in the top of the truck radiator. You get clever when you're hungry.

  • @johnc4122
    @johnc4122 5 років тому +48

    How strange that such a simple thing as not having the rubber to put on tires was such a logistical handicap for the Germans. British naval dominance meant virtually no access to foreign rubber which meant no rubber to put on truck wheels, which meant steel wheels that could quickly destroy roads. I think it shows how much more complicated war had become. Who could’ve predicted that rubber would be so critical just 20 years before?

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 5 років тому +17

      They needed rubber for much more than just tires, Indy pointed out in one video that the british traded rubber (during WW1 !) to germany for processed glas which the british lacked the manufacturing for. (Rubber for german Gasmasks vs Glas for binoculars, optical sights etc)

    • @jasonirwin4631
      @jasonirwin4631 5 років тому +3

      Better than rubber is ball bearings. You need bb's for tanks,trucks, turrets,planes,ships,and for all the tools and machinery used make everything previously stated.

  • @pknark
    @pknark 5 років тому +9

    Always been fascinated by how the whole war machine was fed, the effort it took to get a bullet from the factory to the gun barrel is phenomenal and it’s something not a lot of people think about.

  • @stephen9869
    @stephen9869 5 років тому +25

    6:38 An early 'Technical' way before the Toyota pickup was on the scene........

    • @phinix250
      @phinix250 5 років тому +5

      Russia did the same thing during their civil war. Then Australia during the emu war.

    • @jevinpauly2667
      @jevinpauly2667 4 роки тому

      @@phinix250 Didn't the Russians have a name for it Tachanka or something?

    • @ruutiperse9223
      @ruutiperse9223 4 роки тому

      @@jevinpauly2667 If i remember correctly tachanka is horse carriage with machine gun.

  • @M21Karl
    @M21Karl 5 років тому +10

    My grandpa kept a brief diary during the war. Just a few words now and then without much detail probably for security reasons. A few lines look related to your content about logistics. Trucks were mentioned 3 times. Aug 2, 1918 We road in trucks to Minorville, France. Aug 6, 1918 Left Buisson, Minorville, France in trucks for Noviant. Oct 9, 1918 Moved in Japanese trucks to Libercourt.

  • @USSChicago-pl2fq
    @USSChicago-pl2fq 5 років тому +27

    My Great Great Uncle was a truck driver in the American Expeditionary Force it wasn’t a heroic but safer and just as important and he brought back a used German 77mm artillery shell casing and German Bayonet and bullet letter opener from Brest

    • @arachnonixon
      @arachnonixon 5 років тому +1

      cool story, but it's spelled "Brest"... might wanna edit that

    • @USSChicago-pl2fq
      @USSChicago-pl2fq 5 років тому +3

      arachnonixon damn Autocorrect

    • @828enigma6
      @828enigma6 4 роки тому

      He also serves who fetches the bullets, beans, water and medical supplies. Nothing to be ashamed of. Luck of the draw. Like me pulling 280 on the draft lottery for Vietnam. Only called guys up to 185.

  • @Skusioh
    @Skusioh 5 років тому +8

    Imagine buying a Truck in early 1914... and then it gets used int he war for 4 years. What an investment!

    • @DeathOnSernpidal
      @DeathOnSernpidal 5 років тому +9

      It probably wouldn't last 4 years under war conditions.

  • @pokersoldier1
    @pokersoldier1 5 років тому +56

    Nice to see you talk about the job that I do both on the military and civilian side. Many people don't know about logistics. Nice video.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 5 років тому +1

      Loggies, first in, last out. Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're a loggie.

  • @ulriksteenandersen4215
    @ulriksteenandersen4215 5 років тому +51

    Name a better duo, I'll wait.

  • @brianfuller7691
    @brianfuller7691 4 роки тому +2

    If the US Civil War was the first modern technological war, WW1 made logistics modern. These mundane trucks represented a modern marvel. The combination of modern logistics and communications was anazing.

  • @king-oreos4003
    @king-oreos4003 5 років тому +7

    That’s incredible my great grandpa drove those when he brought shells to artillery batteries

  • @daringviking9604
    @daringviking9604 5 років тому +17

    I'm heading to the tank museum in December...cant wait!!!

    • @TheGreatWar
      @TheGreatWar  5 років тому +2

      you will be glad to hear that their Tiger display has been prolonged for a year

    • @daringviking9604
      @daringviking9604 5 років тому

      great to hear thanks

  • @egdiryellam68
    @egdiryellam68 2 роки тому +1

    As a young person growing up in Bedfont, Middlesex in the 1950's my friends and I would play on some of these WW 1 lorries. There were about 6 of these lorries parked in a yard in Hatton Road opposite New Road where Nursery Garage is /was. Can still see these old lorries in my minds eye, hope they were saved and restored. I came to Australia in the late 1960's and worked as in interstate truckie for most of my working life. One of my grand fathers was a driver on the western front in WW1, never found out if he was a lorry driver or a horse driver.

  • @jonathanscott7372
    @jonathanscott7372 2 роки тому +1

    After the war trucks in Germany were still considered so unreliable, that a local chemical firm built a 12 mile overhead cable system to deliver chalk to their factory. It ran until the 1950's.

  • @Tsumami__
    @Tsumami__ 5 років тому +54

    During a horrible day, a TGW upload makes me feel a little happy.

    • @YerluvinunclePete
      @YerluvinunclePete 5 років тому +1

      Hope it's the start of a big turn around!

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 5 років тому +1

      Sorry you had a horrible day. We are all friends here on The Great War, so friendship to you, and I hope tomorrow is a little better!

    • @Tsumami__
      @Tsumami__ 5 років тому

      Neil Wilson thank you ☺️

    • @TheCulturalBomb
      @TheCulturalBomb 5 років тому +1

      Kitana Kojima history should appeal to everyone regardless of age or gender

    • @zaphodbeeblebrox9109
      @zaphodbeeblebrox9109 5 років тому

      @@TheCulturalBomb no one is saying it doesnt

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 5 років тому +2

    "...saw the quality of leather on an American soldier's boots and knew the war was lost." There was a movie about WWII, where a German officer saw a birthday cake that had been sent to an American POW, and remarked that any nation that could fly a birthday cake across the Atlantic for a POW was not going to lose the war. I can't remember the name of the movie.

  • @mattknight6691
    @mattknight6691 5 років тому +33

    I think it would be a nice gesture to buy David Willey a second tie.

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 5 років тому +3

      I doubt he'd wear it. Maybe a Spongebob tie, but even then...

    • @branthollensbe223
      @branthollensbe223 5 років тому +9

      David has 16 ties, all identical. The Brits like to wear their school tie.

  • @worri3db3ar
    @worri3db3ar 5 років тому +5

    so glad to have seen this upload, tough week abroad in hong kong alone as well as having disability issues and missing the comforts afforded living in uk...this video helped everything feel better...even if just for a moment.

  • @jakefuentes5543
    @jakefuentes5543 5 років тому +15

    We got a great big truckin’ convoy across the western front

    • @spudskie3907
      @spudskie3907 5 років тому +2

      I love the song and movie! CONVOY!!!

    • @Manic-bc1hf
      @Manic-bc1hf 5 років тому +3

      n’ there's a Baron in the air..

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 5 років тому +52

    Congrats on over 900k subscribers!

    • @hentehoo27
      @hentehoo27 5 років тому +6

      Let's see if The Great War hits one million subscribers before the war ends...

    • @indianajones4321
      @indianajones4321 5 років тому +3

      Hente Hoo we can only hope

    • @syahmikadira6832
      @syahmikadira6832 5 років тому +1

      Nah,I bet it'll end around 1919-1920 after the "major offensive" that all of the major powers are planning that'll surely finally end the war

    • @victorbruant389
      @victorbruant389 5 років тому +2

      Guten Tag...Herr Jones!

    • @indianajones4321
      @indianajones4321 5 років тому +2

      Wurschtl Burschtl No ticket!

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 5 років тому +1

    Why are these old vehicles so beautiful? These bare bones antique trucks are just gorgeous.

  • @Patrick_3751
    @Patrick_3751 5 років тому +11

    It's funny how David mentioned German soldiers knew the war was over when they saw the quality of American gear. One of my history teachers told us a similar story about one of his friend's grandfather who was on the Western Front with the Germans. One day in 1918 he and a few of his comrades heard English being spoken in the opposite trenches in a manner that they had never heard before. They figured that the Americans had arrived and began chuckling, figuring that they were just a bunch of rookies who had never seen combat. A few minutes later they could smell corn beef being cooked in the American trenches and right then and there they knew the war was lost.

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry 5 років тому +5

      The German discipline brokedown during the Amiens offensive when they overran the British supply dumps.

  • @otakunthevegan4206
    @otakunthevegan4206 5 років тому +2

    I love world war 1 motorization. Times rally changed, and this was over 100 years ago and motor vehicles had become established in day to day life.

  • @Easy-Eight
    @Easy-Eight 5 років тому +1

    My grandfather was part of the US Army and he drove trucks in the Great War. He died in '82 and never talked about the war. The flag of the USA was on his coffin and after the funeral nobody wanted it. So, I got it after the funeral and it's in my living room inside of a flag case.

    • @thomasdemay9805
      @thomasdemay9805 5 років тому

      i can't believe no one wanted the flag. it should be treasured.

  • @rolliedoughlie8464
    @rolliedoughlie8464 5 років тому +4

    My great grandfather was a wagoner in the AEF the Great War.

  • @jayjeetkataria8387
    @jayjeetkataria8387 5 років тому +27

    900k subs great!!!!!

  • @thedamnyankee1
    @thedamnyankee1 5 років тому +1

    My Great Grandfather drove truck in france during the great war. The family tells that he recounted that when they would be attacked from the air, they would hide under the trucks. What kind of truck did he drive? Ammunition trucks. The questionability of this tactic was only realized post war.

  • @Jesse__H
    @Jesse__H 5 років тому +17

    I _really_ want to hear what some of those truck engines sound like!

  • @M80Ball
    @M80Ball 5 років тому +1

    This guy is great. I could listen to him all day.

  • @curtishenderson2247
    @curtishenderson2247 5 років тому +1

    I love trucks.I am from North Carolina.U.S.A.In my humble opinion,I do believe that if y'all made a series of great videos of all of the trucks in your collection I would watch,and donate of course.I remain YHS peace out.

  • @Mudsuitable
    @Mudsuitable 2 роки тому +1

    If I'm not mistaken it was Cadillac's pedal arrangement that was "adopted" by auto manufacturers the world over including heavy trucks due to its ergonomics and simplicity..

  • @CybranM
    @CybranM 5 років тому +4

    David is the best guest, Ive loved every episode hes been in :D

  • @courtneyksf
    @courtneyksf 5 років тому +1

    My grandfather drove truck for all major battles of the AEF. Not one accident hauling Ammo. IdNG/WisNG

  • @DDELON
    @DDELON 5 років тому +16

    hey, guys great episode. I've been reading some of the memoirs of despatch riders on the western front. mainly Sgt. Albert Simpkin and W. H. L Watson. Although great accounts by these men the technical aspects of the bikes are somewhat lacking. Again some very vivid descriptions of drinking wine and riding around Mons fleeing from Uhlans but, they often call the motorcycles "bicycles" or use horse terminology. Im not even sure if the exact models are even mentioned once. I think a possible motorcycle episode would be amazing for all of us great war biker fans!

    • @iwantcrawfish6110
      @iwantcrawfish6110 5 років тому

      Yeah this would be cool to see :)

    • @paulmanson253
      @paulmanson253 5 років тому +1

      David Dean One of the early motorcycles,a 2 stroke,was the Scott Flying Squirrel. No idea where it was manufactured,but can you imagine rifle,lance and horse toting uhlans being defeated by a flying squirrel ? How humiliating. Where these guys came up with the nouns to describe their machines baffles me completely.

  • @Judge-wi1on
    @Judge-wi1on 5 років тому

    As a 4th generation truck driver, my great grandfather Lloyd started with horses and running supplies for logging camps in the Necedah, WI area during winter. After his time in WWI, Lloyd and my grandfather Ernest, came up with a very impressive idea. Team driving. Thanks for the episode A LOT.

  • @emilianocaprili4160
    @emilianocaprili4160 3 роки тому

    The moral of the story is: all the reality that surrounds us is the daughter of war; from the most striking things (such as jet planes) to the most trivial ones (such as the arrangement of the pedals of cars).

  • @victorbruant389
    @victorbruant389 5 років тому +8

    If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.

  • @evanames5940
    @evanames5940 5 років тому +3

    Question. This video made me wonder. We always talk about armies on the front lines or actually fighting. How many men were needed to support those fighting, wounded and dead?

  • @magomano272
    @magomano272 5 років тому +1

    its like indys a wizard who knows what i want to see, just yesterday i was searching ww1 truck logistics and couldnt find any information and just an hour ago i saw this in my notifications

  • @MandalorV7
    @MandalorV7 5 років тому +1

    Horse played a big roll in supplying armies even into WWII. That's part of the reason why the Germans didn't use chemical weapons on the battlefield like they had in the first World War.

  • @11Kralle
    @11Kralle 5 років тому

    In 1912, the german stagecoach-system (postal and passenger services) was finally cancelled in favour to the railroad-system, which actually reached its largest extension in 1911.

  • @TheLoxxxton
    @TheLoxxxton 5 років тому +2

    A genuinely interesting episode! Brings the mechanics of war into focus. Bravo

  • @herbwag6456
    @herbwag6456 5 років тому +3

    Interesting episode! How about one on Great War motorcycles?

  • @dasffs
    @dasffs 5 років тому +2

    Phew! I have *finally* caught up on all the videos from literally a year ago. Like a crazy person, I kept swiping away the new video notifications, because I wanted them to build up so I had a few to watch. Boy did I have "a few"... Love the series, keep up the great work! (and how are you all doing, Indy & crew?)

  • @msgfrmdaactionman3000
    @msgfrmdaactionman3000 Рік тому

    This hardware is so awesome to maintain, thanks! You could always lease it out for films or when if WW3/4.

  • @Plasros
    @Plasros 5 років тому +1

    One of the best channels on UA-cam, so interesting.
    Thanks for all your hard work guys

  • @Crimethoughtfull
    @Crimethoughtfull 4 роки тому

    12,000 men (as a Division) need 1,000 TONS of supply a day, which, at the time, was 2 trains of 50 cars each. WOW!

  • @cuggyboysmith81
    @cuggyboysmith81 2 роки тому

    Thank you mr. Willey...... Thank you

  • @jerryumfress8340
    @jerryumfress8340 5 років тому +1

    I love this episode with the trucks, not enough exposure given to the part that motorized transportation played in the first world war, thanks!

  • @Classical.Conservative
    @Classical.Conservative 5 років тому +2

    I wonder if someone is going to make such a great channel like this for WW2

  • @brianknezevich9894
    @brianknezevich9894 5 років тому +1

    Excellent video on a widely overlooked aspect of warfare in general!

  • @blackcorp0001
    @blackcorp0001 5 років тому +1

    Another awesome video , love the historical information, fascinating ... well done team

  • @57WillysCJ
    @57WillysCJ 5 років тому +1

    The Badger FWD was the first mass produced 4x4 truck. It was licensed to Peerless, Kissel Motor company, Premier Motor, and Mitchell Motor car company for the war. Of course FWD was there for WWII. The FWD spinoff of Oshkosh truck and their first units were available in 1918. Holt tractor can safely be called Caterpillar as the company name was Holt Caterpillar in 1909 and Caterpillar became a trademark in 1910. By the time of the war most called them Caterpillar in the area they were manufactured.

    • @peterstickney7608
      @peterstickney7608 5 років тому

      The Badger Four Wheel Drive Auto Company was the original name for the Four Wheel Drive Auto Company in Clintonville, WI. - founded by Otto Zachow and William Besserdich. It was started in 1909, and they changed the name in 1910. They operated as Four Wheel Drive Corporation until 2003. - Part still exists as the Seagraves Fire Apparatus line.
      It is true that during the War, demand was so high that production was licensed to Kissel, Premier, and Mitchell, as well as FWD. Our spare parts loft contains parts manufactured by all 4 companies, and as a demonstration of the quality control of the project, several trucks were built using components from all 4 companies. (A more significant achievement than you might think - Even in WW 2, almost all European Mass Production was hand-fitted - parts weren't interchangeable without hand work.)
      Oshkosh Truck was founded as the Wisconsin Duplex Company in 1917, when Bill Besserdich left FWD. Their first truck, the Model A, was a 2-tonner, equivalent to a Nash Quad.
      They changed their name to Oshkosh Motor Trick Manufacturing Company in 1920. They didn't get their 500th truck out of the door until 1928. Great tucks, though.

    • @57WillysCJ
      @57WillysCJ 5 років тому +1

      @@peterstickney7608 The FWD Battleship was at Iola 3 summers ago. I am fond of Cheese head cars and trucks.

  • @mblac19
    @mblac19 5 років тому +25

    This is a level of detail too far for this episode but there's some great logistics related anectdotes and trivia from the war. For instance, American troops before Cantigny were partially transported into place by Annanese (now a region in Vietnam, then a French colony) truck drivers; it was noted by a number of soldiers as the first time they'd met annanese let alone talked to them with french as a lingua franca.
    It's a reasonable guess that those early experiences in logistics were quite the help when the various vietnamese wars were fought as it's a matter of record that Ho Chi Minh attended the Paris peace talks, hoping to help get independence for Vietnam, and that logistics were one of the more developed skills for the vietnamese.

    • @oddballsok
      @oddballsok 5 років тому +1

      ehmpfff..you jumping on 7 miles boots.
      YOu cannot make these assumptions.
      Here is another one;maybe an american soldier made a racist remark about the annanese truckdriver, which resentment grew that it developed into the vietnam hatred of americans as it displayed in 1970's.....
      you know..the butterfly flapping that makes a hurricane ??..not..

    • @briansmith9439
      @briansmith9439 5 років тому +1

      In the US Regimental histories I have read, the drivers from Annam are referred to Annamites not 'Annanese' though I suspect Annamese would also be correct, and their driving skills are, alternately, lauded and deplored which may reflect road conditions rather than ability.

  • @nostradamusofgames5508
    @nostradamusofgames5508 5 років тому

    "amatuers talk tactic; professionals talk logistics" i like that, i really like that quote.

  • @ftwman7644
    @ftwman7644 5 років тому +1

    seeing somebody this competent is kind of uplifting!

  • @handyadams3319
    @handyadams3319 Рік тому +1

    Beans, boots and bullets The recipe for victory.

  • @SootHead
    @SootHead 5 років тому

    An important chapter on the topic of logistics is the importance of transport vehicle mobility and the advent of all-wheel drive. The FWD and Nash Quad trucks mentioned below by Peter were probably the most numerous of this type on the battlefield and they proved the concept.

  • @KarlArty
    @KarlArty 5 років тому +1

    Ooh! Another episode of Inside the Indy's Hatch! Yay! XD

  • @blue2sco
    @blue2sco 5 років тому

    Always love hearing from The Tank Musuem

  • @rabihrac
    @rabihrac 5 років тому +1

    Congrats for the 900 thou ! Aiming at the million now !

  • @scasey1960
    @scasey1960 5 років тому

    This is a great series!

  • @sobchakdude
    @sobchakdude 3 роки тому

    Excellent!

  • @NickRatnieks
    @NickRatnieks 5 років тому +1

    Not London Transport- that was formed in 1933- London General Omnibus Company buses and other companies. The B Type bus being the most common.

  • @acosorimaxconto5610
    @acosorimaxconto5610 5 років тому

    More like this please!

  • @jimwhite2541
    @jimwhite2541 5 років тому +1

    Tanks er thanks for the video.

  • @CharlesOffdensen
    @CharlesOffdensen 5 років тому

    Very interesting video, congrats!

  • @stevew6138
    @stevew6138 5 років тому +32

    Amateurs study tactics, Professionals study logistics. Holy cow Batman, I posted this in the first minute of the video....................

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry 5 років тому +2

      I've heard it said slightly different:
      Junior officers talk tactics.
      Senior officers talk strategy.
      Generals talk logisitcs.

  • @AFV85
    @AFV85 4 роки тому

    That's cool seeing the heat sink radiator on that

  • @mikewatkinson1996
    @mikewatkinson1996 5 років тому +2

    Get it done folks! 1 million subs by the end of the war!

  • @joevicari9845
    @joevicari9845 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this episode, as an 88M ( motor transportation expert) I have a hard time finding anything related to Trucks.

  • @lipsach
    @lipsach 5 років тому

    I really liked this video. I'm currently reading Supplying War, Martin VanCreveld. I am amazed how much logistics is overlooked in war books. I would like to see more videos on the topic.

  • @marcosaraiva9205
    @marcosaraiva9205 2 роки тому

    Great episode! I'm reviewing again!

  • @iskrem596
    @iskrem596 5 років тому

    This was quite a fun episode. People often underestimate trucks. Greetings from Serbia!

  • @oliversmith9200
    @oliversmith9200 4 роки тому

    The My dear old Grandfather Oliver H. Petty, American Expeditionary Forces, Rainbow Division, did much of his duty on the seat of a horse drawn ammunition wagon. He, as with my Father - of Patton's Third - was one of those soldiers who seldom spoke of it.

  • @Ashfielder
    @Ashfielder 5 років тому

    Seeing them all pootling about the arena really puts it into perspective how colossal the logistics effort really would have been.

  • @British_Spectre
    @British_Spectre 5 років тому +1

    If you get a chance you should go to the historical dockyard in Portsmouth Hampshire they have the only surviving ship from Gallipoli.

  • @hellaplayer7156
    @hellaplayer7156 5 років тому

    Instant like crew checking in!

  • @pietzeekoe
    @pietzeekoe 5 років тому

    Such an eloquent guy.

  • @andrewreynolds912
    @andrewreynolds912 Рік тому +1

    It's crazy its been over a hundred years sense ww1

  • @SuperCompany007
    @SuperCompany007 5 років тому

    David is such a cool guy :)

  • @ProjecthuntanFish
    @ProjecthuntanFish 2 роки тому

    The logistics in Desert Storm were impressive as well, especially when the 7 Corps made its dash thru the desert around behind the Republican guard.

  • @cchello2029
    @cchello2029 5 років тому +1

    Question for Indy & Crew: Hey! I live in sweden and I find your videos really interesting, mu question is before "The devils anvil" (the million shells pounded on the french by germany at verdun) how would you prepare for something like that? Where were the shells stored? How do you organize the continuous rolling thunder barrage? Love to the you and the rest of the great war crew :)

  • @johnferguson7235
    @johnferguson7235 5 років тому

    The allies used tens of thousands of Ford Model T trucks which had a hand throttle and a reverse pedal. Not all trucks had standardized pedals.

    • @peteranderson037
      @peteranderson037 5 років тому

      He said that it was standardized for the British Army but didn't say anything about anyone else.

  • @kerrstuartaxefireman
    @kerrstuartaxefireman 5 років тому +2

    Great video, did you hang around in Dorset a few days longer and see all of these lorries along with several steam engines drive in convoy from Bovington to the Great Dorset Steam Fair? It sure was a spectacular show!

  • @bradfordeaton6558
    @bradfordeaton6558 5 років тому

    They may not be experts on trucks but that's a nice collection.

  • @JagerLange
    @JagerLange 5 років тому

    >see thumbnail
    >would totally watch a David/Indy road trip

  • @maxsmodels
    @maxsmodels 5 років тому +2

    I think the army has 17 support personnel (many in logistics) for every front line troop.

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry 5 років тому

      The classic military dilemma: the tail-to-teeth ratio.

  • @cudwieser3952
    @cudwieser3952 5 років тому

    Check out FWD and the Jeffery Quad. Some of the first 4x4's in existance. Also Check the history of the Liberty B trucks during and after the war. The Liberty B was the formation of so many European Truck and logistics companies.

  • @stevep5408
    @stevep5408 5 років тому

    I live in the town that produced the bulldog. Mack trucks is the history of industrial America!

  • @AFV85
    @AFV85 4 роки тому

    I love these videos find out loads of interesting info there on something that was ment to already exist before ww1

  • @ThunderBuddy
    @ThunderBuddy 5 років тому

    I fully expect to see this guy on the WW2 show!

  • @clubprojects6923
    @clubprojects6923 2 роки тому

    In the first weeks, they shelled each other's supply trains. Everything stopped. No ammunition or food. So they stopped thas so as to continue the "fight". Insane.

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq 5 років тому

    I wonder what if was life seeing a trick like that for the first time?