Which Shaft Flex Should YOU Use?... Stiff Shaft vs Regular Shaft!
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- Опубліковано 14 лют 2021
- Which Shaft Flex Should YOU Use?... Stiff Shaft vs Regular Shaft! We all know that using the right shafts in your golf clubs is pretty important...what shafts should you use? which golf shaft should you use? what is the best shaft for your irons? what shafts should you have in your golf clubs, the best driver shaft you can buy? what is the longest driver shaft? should you use expensive uncharge shafts? expensive exotic driver shafts? expensive exotic iron shafts? should you use graphic shafts? should you use steel shafts? heavy shafts vs lite shafts... in this video I test stiff shafts vs regular shafts to see if I can tell a difference and how much difference there actually is. S300 vs R300 has always been a pretty huge debate... let's do it... and let's do it now!
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I tend to base my decision more on durability. For instance, which shaft will stay the straightest after repeatedly being plowed through the fairway leaving divots so large that golf carts have to avoid them for fear of getting stuck. If I were fitted, I think they'd had me a bag of shovels.
One day, my friends and I ate funny mushrooms and spent the evening hitting foot long divots at each other in the park. Luckily, no one was hurt.
Just a few weeks ago I got fit into Mitsubishi Kuro Kage stiff graphite shafts swapping over from regular flex steel. So far in my practice I'm hitting a lot more consistent indoors. Unfortunately I live in an area in the US that gets a lot of snow so I'll be waiting a bit to course test them. But I am excited and encouraged.
Great vid. Got fitted into the modus3 tour 105 stiff for my irons and over the last couple of weeks I’ve been thinking that I may should have carried those shafts into my wedges instead of the dynamic gold “spinner” shafts. It’s amazing how much shafts can effect your golf shot and consistency.
My last fitting for irons I was recommended regular shafts, moving from stiff. On swing speed alone I should be in stiff. What I found was that different shaft manufacturers have their own flex standards. I can use KBS in stiff that will produce similar results to DG in regular. Thankfully we went for figures and results rather than just the label. I also found that different shafts alters strike point on the face. I wish a fitting lasted three hours!
Had a fitting at a large golf chain, was told due to my height and swing speed I needed stiff. After a summer of misery first thing my pro did was change me into regular and the ball flight change was almost instant. Even with my ropey technique I felt more comfortable. As below comment suggests I think most of us are conditioned to think stiffer the better but it doesn't seem that rings true.
Interesting test and very close numbers, would love to see you take this out onto the golf course when they are back open
I would like to see a video of different length and different weighted driver shafts
Perfect time for this review, brother. I am re-building my clubs over winter and cannot decide on what flex shafts to go with
Really interesting stuff James, just the right level of detail before it got too confusing for me 👍 fingers crossed we'll get to see that on course test soon! Keep up the great work 🙌
Recently got irons re shafted....from heavily tipped 5.5 rifle (playing x flex) to KBS C Taper lite (stiff). Certainly made a difference to be refit after 10 years!!
Back don’t hurt as much from putting a gorilla swing on every iron shot, and the overall club weight was down by 41 grams!!! Makes a huge difference.
I’m using KBS Tour 90 regular flex in my speedzone irons. I’m not the fastest swinger 77mph with 7 iron. Felt really nice and gave me the best trajectory of the 3 shafts I tried
love the vid james! always nice to see how people swing different shafts and to see the results. here's what I'm currently gaming
driver- velix alpina 675reg
woods- tensei blue 65stiff
irons- kbs tour 90 stiff
wedges kbs wedge shaft 115 reg
interesting findings, depends what you are looking for distance or accuracy. Would have been better using the white and red shaft to show the difference there as well.
I was fitted to KBS C Taper Lite X-flex with the mizuno analyser, tried others but they're def the best for me. Not all flexes are equal! I don't swing fast enough for X flex but a light shaft makes them spot on
I'm a 49 year old and use Reg Shafts. Fujikara Atmos Blue 5R in my Driver, Fujikara Atmos Red 6R in my 3wood, Modus NS Pro Tour105 in my hybrid and UST Recoil 95 F3 in my irons. Works Ok for me (sometimes...)
I hear it really comes down to HOW you swing vs how fast that will affect the flexion of the shaft at least with irons. Kick point and other things can also be affected.
I use stiff S300 XP95’s. I like how the lighter shaft allows you to really feel the weight in the club head. These are high launch but I’ve no trouble keeping them low if needed. The key reason was feel though both off the club face and within the swing. Teamed them with the Ping i500s and they work well for me.
Try a better quality elevate 95 ets you’ll thank me later(owned both)
I was in an old 704cb set with regular flex, finally went for a fit and got put into a px lz 6.5 so that’s x-flex! Would never ever have thought that so just shows how important a fit is! Not changed my best shots but made my bad less bad for sure!
I got fitted 31 December last year, ended up moving from a stiff KBS in my Hogan Blades to Project X LZ Regular+ in a Mizuno MP20 MMC - due mainly to my attack at transition being smooth instead of strong. The stiff was fine if a little unresponsive for me but I can feel the R+ “work” more often.
Money well spent.
I didn't do a lot of comparisons, but went with a Wishon S2S Stepless steel staff in Stiff (125g raw weight) because they are recommended for people with more aggressive swings and had a flight characteristic that fit my game.
Really enjoying that intro song and your editing timing with your words and intro. Nice vibe and nice touch.
Use a project x5.5 shaft in my irons and stiff in woods/hbs.
The 5.5s are notionally between reg and stiff, but they are pretty stiff in my view.
I feel with shafts it can vary from company to company, with different deflections and frequencies, as one may say it's a stiff when it measures as a regular. I see it as whatever make you feel the most confident and can trust. No reason to buy expensive shafts to brag about when they don't work with that persons swing. Love the videos James
Never looked at the shafts in a fitting the fitter hands me the clubs, I just hit the shots & give them feedback. The fitter is there to help you get consistent strikes with good launch & spin, all I want is control.
I play Mizuno JPX 921 Tour with Project X LZ Steel 5.5, 115g shafts.
I had a Driver fitting and was skeptical!
Surprised at the difference in yardage !
It definitely made a difference for me. Glad I went.
Went to Titleist National Fitting Centre in St. Neots,Cambridgeshire last summer twice for irons and driver/fairway/hybrids.Fitters there are superb, 45 minute session doesn't seem long enough, time goes too quickly. Result was t200 irons KBR tour reg flex,1 degree upright and half inch longer .Driver and fairway/hybrids Hzrdus smoke black 80 gram.
Tried many options of shaft and head combos.These gave the best numbers on trackman.Fully recommend the service they give you there.
Loved this. Your Top 5 golf channel on you tube for me.Great work👍.
I think the main thing when choosing shafts is the feel you prefer. I once heard a fitter say it’s not how fast you swing it, it’s how you swing it fast. Each shaft has tempo, transition, launch/spin and load characteristics that are unique to certain deliveries. That’s where a good fitting comes in and where you can get mixed results when buying stock offerings.
You’re right I think I had a bad fitting I have stiff shafts in every club but when I hit my friends clubs in regular they feel so more natural to me I like the lighter feel and I still hit them consistently I think the fitter just looked at swing speed
@@mikeS-ow7lc True, fittings can be a funny thing. I saw an interesting podcast by the guys at mygolfspy talking about the dynamics of a fitting and how it goes sometimes. Often times people over swing or feel a lot of pressure to swing faster because they’re being watched and tracked on the monitor and it’s not really their natural swing so you end up with something it doesn’t necessarily fit you perfectly. I think some of it is trial and error if you can get to a big golf store where they have demos that you can hit you can make your own decisions that way too. Seems to be a little bit more of a natural way like your experience with your friends clubs.
A good fitting for any club will not make your good shots any better but what it should do is make your bad shots slightly better i.e. you end up pin high instead of short, really your dispersion is improved not only left to right but front to back.
"I think the main thing when choosing shafts is the feel you prefer." she said 😂
Its a lot less to think about when you get a stiff shaft tho. Its more consistent even at a lower swing speed. But you might have to hit 80 or high 70s to get the right ping on the ball. Or do something like use supersoft balls.
You are correct, My graphite shafted clubs are stiff, my irons are regular. I swing quick, but never found a difference with stiff irons. My 4 iron is 205. Driver speed 105-110 average.
I’m an average golfer who is always stressing out when buying new clubs with all the options, this video put me at ease, I’m not on the PGA TOUR so stiff vs reg doesn’t matter to me or the average golfer who golfs with his buddies 👍🏻
Excellent James but what I’d really like to know is what’s the difference between stiff steel shafts from different brands, like project x to kbs to modus, to dynamic gold and so on.
Love your videos James. Recent subscriber and love your content! Following your other page too, love the banter between you and your missus 🤣
I went from reg flex GI irons to a stiff combo set (both sets Nike) and I’ve found that overall my grouping and my distances have been more consistent since making the switch. Whether that’s down to improvements in my swing or not (probably as I have changed my swing a bit) I’m not sure, but I’ve really enjoyed the stiff flex irons since I’ve had them.
I replaced my stock Fujikora atmos regular flex shafts on my F9 driver and 3 wood with Mitsubishi Tengei CK Blue and in regular flex also and it made a difference. The stock shafts felt too whippy in the tip and my tempo had to be perfect for me to get everything out of them. The Tensei shafts were more consistent and I find the middle of the fairway more often. The stiff flex Evenflow on my Rogue works fine with an easy swing, even slower than recommended flex. Dry ball data is good but it counts more on the course.
Long way to get there but totally agree, I’ve got a slow iron swing, but I’ve played out my skin with x100’s and had a mare with them and regular, it’s about finding something that feels right and working in the minor details from there, I’d love to be locked in a room with endless clubs and a monitor though, and I won’t come out!
I've said this for a while and you need to try!!
I had same nspro 950 S & R in Honma irons. They are the same weight but it's the bottom knuckle of the shaft that's different. The reg is further down so it kicks easier.
Always played stiff until I turned 70 after battling leukemia then got fitted for senior shaft’s in my new PXG clubs, still trying to evaluate these shafts.
Just before lockdown I had a fitting for t200’s and I tried multiple shafts but settled on the amt white r300. It just felt better for me than the others. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Mr. Robinson- This was a very enjoyable and helpful video. Even as a duffer I worry overmuch about R vs. S shafts, and I think it probably is not something to pay that much attention to.
Originally when fitted for my PXG irons was fitted with NSPro S 120g. After about 6 months wasn’t happy with club head feel and generating lots of spin. Went back and they reshafted the set with NSPro S 98g. Had this setup for a number of years now.
I use dynamic gold S300 130g shafts. Got fitted for irons couple years ago and they do the job perfectly.
I am so going for a fitting this year, never been but I am getting much better at golf, now play off 14hdcp, I think a full bag fitting is in my future lol
I got fitted as a 15 handicapper whs scoring system and I’d recommend it if you have the money/passion for the sport. I do believe in the equipment I got and once I get to the next milestone I will probably get fit again. Good luck!
The problem with fittings is that they're only as good as the person doing the fitting. I recently had a guy give me a quick fitting with only a 7 iron. After I hit a few, he checked the markings on the tape & told me I should have a 2 degree flat. I hit a few more, then he told me I need a 2 degree upright. This was at Dick's, so be certain you check the fitter's reputation before you get fit. I'm sure there are hacks in this area as well as instructors.
I've had to research who I'd trust to do my fitting. Like you said the person really does matter. I'd also say that for expensive purchases in life you'd want to put in the work (esp. regarding an expensive golf purchase). I would definitely not go to Dicks for a fitting. I would recommend choosing a place that has a good fitter + trackman + has a place where you can see your ball flight outdoors (aka not on a indoor simulator).
Also, even if you do get fit, unless you know how to use your equipment, it might be better to learn the craft better (not saying that anyone reading this doesn't , but just in general).
I went to get fit when I felt I had a decent grasp of my swing and can make adjustments to fix it (around 15 handicap and I was playing with one-length clubs which were giving me landing angle issues).
That being said, it's always awesome to get new clubs regardless of skill. :D
@@Leepfall My thoughts exactly! Most of us would find that money spent for lessons would be a better investment than for new equipment. But still; it's also difficult to find a pro who can improve YOUR game & not a 1 size fits all approach. For many, it's a job & nothing else.
Never been fitted for clubs but am definitely coming to see you and Gaz for driver fitting. I’ve no idea how fast I swing the club.
I'd like to see you use the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer, build yourself the club that it recommends, and see how it does. The only fitter in my hometown uses that as a starting point and I got some interesting recommendations. Love your videos, thanks for all you do for the game!
fitted for T100s last year and spent the full hour choosing the right shaft as I had already picked the head I wanted through testing. Got AMT white S300 to keep spin down
Just moved into the KBS $Taper Lite 100 Stiff. What a HUGE difference. Love them!
True Temper S300 Stiff. I just need to go out and play!
NSPRO MODUS 3 TOUR X-stiff. Chose them based on fitting data. Liked the feel of the Proj X LZ 6.5, but grouping was much tighter for my swing with the NSPRO. Started with shaft optimizer to narrow down the list. Did try a few outside the recommended, but the ones it recommended all had decent feel and groupings. Good tool
Getting ready to get new irons (JPX921 Tour) and I am interested in the AMT shafts. Unfortunately, my pro shop fitters only have 7i test heads and shafts, so can’t see how I like the AMTs from top to bottom or properly explore 921 HMP as a 4/5 option. Everyone touts getting fitted and exploring combo set options, but it doesn’t seem like many fitters are equipped. They just got the RADspeed wood fitting set and it only included 2 (of 3) driver heads and 1 (of 5) metal woods. Vendor demo/fitting kits need to be better
DUDE THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST 2 years THANKYOU. Sorry for yelling just excited to watch
You’re the best
Hahaha appreciate you Andrew
Appreciate you more. I can’t test all the new equipment but so I live vicariously through you
Very interesting video James ... yes I would like to see more videos like this .
I have just been fitted for t200 4-Vw
Amt black r300 they feel great and have a lovely ball flight now Iwas in Mizuno jpx 919 in project x 5.5 and they were much lower ball flight and felt much heavier 👌😍😍👍 keep up great vids and updates on foxy also 👍👍
Thanks for the video...I was just fitted for and purchased a set of Titleist, T200 irons with the graphite Mitsubishi kuro kage black 55g regular flex. Tested well in the studio...can’t wait for it to warm up outside.
Same except I haven't bought them yet after seeing the quote.
Is a 55g not a senior, A, or lite, depending on the manufacturer? I believe a 65gr is a reg. Or not.
I have tried reg flex and kept hitting to the right went to stiff it moved left went to modus 3 120 extra and hit it straight great video james always love your content
I have KBS Tour X shafts in my AP3s. Best set of irons I've ever had. First time with x-stiff shafts in my irons
Please play a good average with regular shafted irons to get a nice pattern that you noticed!!! I think I believe the shaft matters more for timing and feel but I’m not a fitter so as a player those are my beliefs. Love the content and trying to push the sport further!
UST recoil 95 F3 in the 919 Hot metals last year now 921 Forged ...Love the feel /consistency of these graphite shafts!…Great for hitting off of indoor mat on Skytrack to reduce hand/wrist pain. 🍻
I have these shafts in my callaway apex pro irons, the combo is awesome
I fit a set of Shimada Tour Stiff 125g steel shafts to my Taylormade irons because the S300 XP shafts were too light and ballooned the ball very high. The Shimada worked a treat and my flight is much more penetrating now. Except that one time at the range when the 8 iron head flew 90 yards down range and into the wet mud. Walk of shame to retrieve it! 😬👀
I would love to see the different length shafts, different lie angles. I love content like that, even moreso than instructional videos and reviews.
Project X 6.0 120g. Got fitted a while ago and went from the same shaft in the 5.0 (not fitted) to the 6.0.
Also I can’t stop picturing James in the power stance for every close up of a club head
Interesting test as during lockdown I swapped out my S300 130g shafts from my Callaway x forged for a set of true temper sl 100g reg shafts . I can now swing much easier and am far more accurate. I think its more to do with weight than flex though??
This tells me that it is time to change to Titleist MB for
You James! :) beautiful shots!!!
"Deader" was always my feeling about stiffer shafts. Been using R shafts for a long time simply because I like the soft feel, just like I prefer a soft-feeling ball and a soft insert in the putter face.
And don't forget 😉 a nice soft woman 😍
I've never been custom fit for any of my clubs. Just bought off the rack. Just been to look at my clubs to check.
Driver - Project X -7C3. 73g 6.0 Stiff.
3 wood - Fujikura Max 65FW - Regular
2H - Mitsubishi Rayon hDiamana - Regular
Irons - Taylor Made Burner 2.0 - Regular.
Hopefully going for a gap test when we're allowed so will be interested to see my swing speeds and distances to review whether I'm even using the right clubs for me. My bank balance and wife hope so. ;-)
I use The White AMT S300 that you are testing, in Mizuno MP-18 SC heads. Beautiful combination.
True temper VSS elevate 105G stiff in my apex pro 2019’s 4-PW. Also have played the KBS C taper 105 in the past couple years. Liked them both...just a timing mechanism is all as opposed to fast needs stiff etc
I'd love to see a blind test with 5 different flexes and see if you can work out which is which!
Hi James, as some have said earlier I think graphite vs steel as a few more pros are moving to graphite and also lie angle as never seen a review on that. Cheers.
JR do a video on graphite v steel please. B4 lockdown I was looking at buying ping 410's with graphite shafts as I was getting 10 yards a club more distance!
I like the vid and I'd like to see more iterations of it. I would've rather have seen you in the T100 or T100S. Adding in the bladed iron seemed like adding an extra variable.
I'm using KBS C Taper, Stiff 120. Feels totally different to other shafts. The weight is the same but in a different place. I get a real punch from it. The stiffness and weight keep the club head straighter and stop the draws and "fore lefts" like James!
I have a swing speed with a 7 iron of 75 mph I have always used regular shafts but last year I went for a fitting at ping Gainsborough I the fitter put kbs tour 120 stiff which surprised me they were alot heavier than my previous set because they were only 85 grams and have taken some speed of my swing
I was just fitted with the new 2021 t200 with the amt black s300. Initially was the amt red regular flex but today went back and tried the other shaft and the stiff was exact same performance but I had more feel with it
62 yrs old and I've always used regular shafts (XP 95 R300) and out-hit most of the guys in my league. My fitter told me I was right on the verge of going into stiff shafts, but he said I have such a relaxed/easy tempo, he recommended staying in regular. The stiff shafts to me feel like I'm hitting the older (hard-as-a-rock) Top Flight balls vs. a ProV1 with the regular shafts. My personal preference is the regular shaft. Most of the guys in my league build their ego by announcing they have stiff shafts in their clubs (which makes no sense) and based on their distance and swing speeds, should definitely be in regular shafts.
This response is right on the money. I have the same situation in my league.
70g Mitsubishi MMT graphite regular in my irons....love them..56 year old....cheers from Canada
Hiya James,custom fitting is a must but it needs to be a complete fitting ie a couple of years ago just as an experiment I got some cheap muscle back irons from Nordica golf,Cayman X 2 irons,I got them in a stiff shaft,oversized grip,2 ins shorter and 3 degree stronger loft.....the upshot of this is that I am still playing these off a handicap of 5 and getting on ave 169 yds with my 7 iron,with them being this short they felt so comfortable and controllable and I am 5ft 10 so the standard fitting length went out of the window.Have to say that the full set of 4-GW only cost me around £200 which was an added bonus anyway I'm starting to sound like you now and waffling ha but my point in this was that you don't need to spend a fortune on clubs if you know how to tinker with them a bit phew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I need to sit down now.
I'd like to learn how to do club fittings, restorations and repairs... how do I gain this knowledge? Are there classes? Is it a certified license or whatnot? Help! Thanks for any help or info!
I like the tighter dispersion your test demonstrated w the S vs R shafts. I am a 72 yr old 100+ shooter w R shafts and wonder whether a higher handicapper's lower swing speed would yield about the same results, S to R comparison.
I'm right between stiff and extra stiff depending on what shaft it is and how it plays. My new irons are Project x Lz 6.0 They play stiffer than say the Modus 120 which i would be extra stiff. I prefer the softest shaft possible in irons and wedges.
Mark crosfield did a great video on shafts. Took an L flex and Xs graphite shaft put them in a driver had a pro hit and compared launch conditions and it came nearly identical. While the shafts behave differently on the machine. The human body makes micro compensations to bring them about back to same location. My takeways 1.)still get fitted but reduce the urge for expensive shaft upgrades 2.) don’t put yourself into shaft paralysis because you don’t think your clubs are not perfectly optimized
Didn’t really get the info I was looking for but that aside it was a great video and thank you for making it
I would like give a slight warning ....when it comes to driver especially ....I changed back 5 years ago from stiff to regular flex and got great results in dispersion ....so when I bought new again 2 years ago I didn't get fitted just went with what specs had been working but did change manufacturers in shaft and club ....and it went all wrong and spent a lot of time spent practicing thinking it was me ....come to find out after another fitting for my current driver that a stiff shaft was best for me with the new head and shaft , even though my club head speed was about 3 to 5 mph slower than when I first got fitted 5 years ago...with that being said some shafts are alot different even though they may both be stiff ,regular, lite etc different manufacturers can have very different feelings and flex .....so again taking the time to get fit is always the safe play
I always played Project X 6.0 until I was recently fitted for new Mizuno JPX 921 Tours and now I play Modus NS Pro Tour 120 XS and it was 90% down to shot dispersion and 10% trying to lower ball flight just a touch.
I bought a Haywood Signature 7 iron with Aerotech Gener8 stiff shafts. I'm going to try it Wednesday. My regular shafts have been steel. My Calaway X tour forged has Dynamic gold x100 My Mizuno JPX EZ Forged have XP 95 s300.
MMT 105s you need to test these! 5 years from now a lot of golfers will be playing steel infused graphite. They’re already starting to show up on tour, get ahead of the curve!
Something not talked about is there are no real industry standards for what makes a golf shaft “stiff” or “regular.” Or what’s the difference in the two. In some reading I was doing, data found one mfg’s stiff was the same flex as another’s regular. So key is to get on a launch monitor and see the results, don’t worry as much about what’s printed on the golf shaft especially if comparing different brands. Cheers.
Mate you have proved its not about how stiff your shaft is but how you use it 🤣 aint that true in all walks of life !!! Great enjoyable content on both channels , well done and thankyou !
Bravo! 😂😂😂😂
If you truly believe shaft flex isn't a factor, ask a senior, or anyone with a slower swing speed it there's a difference. If you need speed, a slow swinger will never get it with steel shafts. Sorry, but it's just a fact.
Oh dear !! It was a light hearted joke mike about the little fellow down stairs if you get the drift !!!
@@philagnew810 I realize that. It certainly didn't offend me. Believe me, the same thought occurred to me. Great minds think alike!
As you mentioned in there, lie angle, i have mine up 1, if you changed your lie angle down, would that help your draw, and make it more neutral/fadie? nice test between, the R300/S300 Shows the S is right one for you, for dispersion at least. I found something similar that i had more control with a Stiff shaft compared to a regular version of the same shaft (Nippon Modus).
Hi Jim. I will be buying some new irons soon.
I am I high handicap golfer. But I’m getting better and expect to be in the low nineties or high eighties soon.
My question is this.
I’m thinking about doing roughly half and half.
5 6 7. Graphite. 8 9 and wedge regular flex (Steel).
I’m hitting some very old titelest irons now.
So what do you think ? Good idea or bad idea ?
Hi James just got a set of taylormade rac irons with rifle stiff shafts looking forward to get them on the course
James, I'm using the MRC Tensei AV Silver Graphite Shaft senior flex 55gm in my Wilson D9 irons.
Good stuff as always James 👍
Thanks buddy
Got fitted for new Mizuno Hot Metal irons using their shaft optimizer device. I'm 62 playing off 11 HC and it put me into a graphite A-flex shaft after playing steel. Wasn't as whippy as I expected and smoothed out my tempo. Is there any way you could do a review of the optimizer for us and see if it would recommend the same shaft you use? Thanks for considering it and hoping you get out on course soon.
going to get fitted for these this Spring!
@@markwoodward1716 You'll like them. Hope you get to try their shaft optimizer and test all their suggestions. Really interesting how it decides the 3 best options based on how you're swinging the club that day.
Did the Mizuno fitting and they recommend a shaft and grip with their iron heads which didn’t perform as good as my old set of irons so getting fitted with a particular brand is not the best option.
@@TheBigBananaaa taking both opinions into consideration; proposed course of action is to go in 3 times over course of 2 weeks and test Ping vs Mizuno; my top contenders for this season. Thank you both for your insight!
I have a great shop (Fiddlers Green) 20 minutes up the road.
www.fiddlersgreen.com/
I have been looking at new irons for a while just have not had the budget to upgrade. I went to a couple different shops and had them evaluate my swing speed and one shop said I could still play stiff and another said I need to go regular. My swing speed is on the border depending on the day. If you don’t mind me asking, when you fit someone that is borderline as far as swing speed do you favor the slower swing speed?
I think way to many game stiffer shafts than they need. If you warm up for 30 minutes before a 1 hour fitting your always going to be at a quicker speed than in you roll out the car 10 minutes before your tee time. Then consider swinging at your best might be a stiff/x stiff but is the average/bad shot that quick? I'm between reg/stiff shafts and after fittings have the choice with numbers being close but always gamed the softer option
Im in same boat i play project x 5.5 lz iron shaft
Also at a fitting you might be going all out, swinging harder than you usually would on course
DEADERERRR is my driver after this weekend. I cracked my TM M5 driver 😔. Now I am in the market for a new driver and shaft. Using the 10.5d M5 and a Hzrdus red 62g XS shaft in the upright shaft position . I am leaning towards the SIM Hzrdus smoke XS now that they are cheaper. You being a user of this driver. Would you recommend the Sim as an upgrade over the M5 or perhaps stick with the M5?
Channel content wise, I would love to see more content like this. My golf pals pay no attention to shaft flex, lie angle etc. using my M5 in the upright shaft position raises the lie angle and helps me a ton. I would love to have more JRob info on lie angles cause and effect. Congratulations on the new changes recently. Love the channel.
Prior to back pain (sciatica), I was playing at scratch. Post-surgery I found I had lost a lot of distance & consistency (I had gone from driver CHS 0f 101- 102 MPH stock to 85 "yikes", of course, it could be that I got fat, weak, and old? Nah, can't be that.) so I bought a set of Callaway Mavrik/Max irons with regular graphite shafts for more speed and set 2 degrees weak for more height. After 18 months of not so good iron play, the 6I shaft broke in the hosel (?) so I went back to my steel-shafted Tommy Armour Irons and am hitting them great (both sets were fitted by a pro). I don't know what I've learned other than you can spend a lot of money on golf clubs that don't help your game...and getting old sucks.
I'd love to see this same type of experiment with fairway woods and varied swing speeds. Great vid!!
I have T100s with AMT Tour white R300s - love them! Played DG S300 before that and the AMT feel nicer
James, love this stuff. Interested to see what effect shaft lengths have on distance . Plus 1/2"? Plus 1"? More in an iron than a driver.
Went to a ping demo day recently, I was playing irons plus 3/4" they had me try plus 1 1/4, gained AVERAGE 20 yards.
I use the AMT tour white S300 and love them. And at the end of them I have the AP2 718's
What is your opinion regarding the need to have graphite shafts evaluated for the spine location in order to place the head and shaft together to idealize consistency. Scott
My driver fitting last year could notice lots of differences and could quit easily see them , my iron fittings aswell but the differences were not as exaggerated but still some as I would have expected, irons ended up with graphite reg even though my swing speed had increases went from a stiff , driver the same