You cannot sleep until 4:00 PM and take care of toddlers. You cannot sleep until 9:00 AM and take care of toddlers. YOU GET UP WHEN THEY GET UP and you watch them every second of the day until they go to sleep at night! PS. You take care of ALL OF THEIR NEEDS IN BETWEEN! She will never forgive herself if something horrible happens to those children while she is laying on the couch!
Omg that first mother is something else!! Straight up SCORNED! The smirk on her face tells how much she’s enjoying seeing her daughter upset. She’s probably blamed the daughter for all 4-5 of her failed marriages too! Hope she did move far away from her!
That 1st grandmother never heard a word Dr. Phil said, she was still being passive aggressive and making threats. I don't see things getting better from her. 😢
That evil hellbeast could murder someone on stage during a live taping and Dr Phil would still do his whole "kids need their precious grandma no matter how psycho" song and dance.
Grandma #1 looks like a heavy drinker. Dad's probably 'never been in Audrey's life' because he couldn't take Audrey's mother. She's not going to take any of Dr. Phil's suggestions, because he's not doing it her way.
Yep. I think it’s benzos too. Maybe some meth from looking at that jawline. Lol. She’s a long term alcoholic/addict and long term drug use causes brain damage. That’s why she’s so crazy,
Yeah how amazing, putting your daughter who had a very abusive marriage and 4 pregnancies in a row, who is severely depressed and traumatised and only 2 months out of the hand of her abuser.. and lure her on stage for the whole world to see how she breaks down. So amazing.
I feel bad for the second mom. She and her husband are too old to have to worry and stress like this. Their daughter is draining them financially and spiritually. That’s no way to grow old. I hope they found a solution. ❤
The second "mom" is the reason the lazy worthless baby maker is that slob with Four kids she doesn't want, need, take care of. Bet the owner of the house and "second mom" will divorce!
It's absolutely horrible that that mother blames the father's absence on the daughter. She has probably been emotionally verbally and mentally abusive to that poor girl her whole life. I really hope she moves on and leaves her abusive mother behind!
Audrey is co-dependent on her mother. She's a grown woman but can't tell her mother "no". I disagree with Dr. Phil; that mother will NEVER back off. They need to move away and not tell mom where they go.
A social worker appeared at my door one day because 'someone' had accused me of abusing my children. I immediately said, "All of my kids happen to be at home right now. I'll stay where I am while you find them around the house and in the back yard and you can speak with them privately." She wasn't there but a hot minute before she said the 'report of abuse' was obviously bogus. Shortly after that incident, I moved my kids to another state and never spoke to my mother again. Best decision I ever made. I only wish I'd done it sooner.
I had the same thing with my bio family. Repeatedly whole sale invented things trying to have my children taken from me and I've been no contact with any of them for a decade now. Kids are happy, healthy and grown and it was the best thing I ever did for myself.
Well done, and I wish you all the best for your future. I'm so proud of you for having the strength to take care of your family and cut the toxic influence out. ❤ 😊 🌿 🙆🏻♀️ 👍🏽
Have you told her yet ? My son is 40 and I used to worry too much about him when I didn't need to and he was too polite to tell me , over time I started realising what I was doing and started unearthing why I worried , it went back to my Mother treating my father and brothers with kid gloves , took a while to understand and be able to mind myself and let my Son do the same , we have a healthy no stress connection now. Wishing you well from the West of Ireland.
You can see the look on the first mother's face. She is arrogant she is right ! Unless this couple sets boundaries with the mother / mother in law. they may lose their marriage and potentially the kids.She will try to take the kids cause SHE KNOWS BEST!
I got pregnant at 16. My mother said right away, that's your baby, I will only take care of her while you are working or schooling. It made me grow up real fast and able to take care of my baby myself. At the time I thought my mom was being a bit harsh. Looking back it was the best thing for me and my daughter.
Sometimes that is what depression looks like. Trying can be 'trying to not feel depressed' which takes 70% of one's energy. Take it from somebody who knows.
Unfortunately when you have children you neeeeeeed to think about them even if you’re depressed and if you CANT, then you need to go to your local social services department and ask for help.
What is the Second Grandmother looking for because she is DEFENDING HER DAUGHTER all the way! It looks like she has been saying YES to her SPOILT LITTLE BRAT ALL HER LIFE! The daughter seems entitled she never heard the word NO all her life, that's why she has four kids at 24 years old.😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧
Grandparenting is a priveledge... NOT a right for a grandparent. If a grandparent can't foster a healthy relationship with their adult child... They have no right to that adult childs children. Know your place and respect ADULT boundaries grandma.
In France they have rights (!). Glad we live in the Netherlands. My husband cut ties with his abusive father when i was 20w pregnant afyer his fTher punched him in the face ....
Thank the states that banned grandparents rights! Some of these grandparents are like the first guest- she’s a certified nut who intimidates, threatens, attacks, undermines ect 😣
The problem is that she IS struggling for way too long. She had an abusive marriage, 4 pregnancies in a row, severely depressed and traumatised and is only 2 months out of the hands of her abuser. Are people really that insensitive to the facts? She needs HELP.
She's obviously got mental health issues; depression or something. People don't choose to behave like this. They probably shouldn't have children until their mental illness is managed.
The second story with the girl sleeping all day and not taking care of her kids that’s crazy !! Then she shouldn’t have 4 kids ..her mom should kick that daughter out !! She has a bad attitude and Maybe she should use birth control !! She so angry because she knows that she not a good mom !! Bringing her daughter out until 4 am !! That mom needs to stop letting her daughter walk all over her she is an adult even though she acting like a child !! And you know that mom won’t kick her out !!
1st family - divorce grandma. 2nd family - divorce daughter. After that, everything will fall into place. I can't understand why people let themselves be trodden on.
Money?..Not sure how it works in the USA but here in Australia these women get a lot of money from Social Security .Disgusting multiple kids with multiple men.More kids more money.Poor kids.
I wonder if she knows herself. A 2 month old baby!! She can’t sleep as late as she likes with children that young. She had them, put on your big girl panties and properly care for those helpless babies.
@@nadiabrstak5646lol we do NOT get paid to have kids in the US. And welfare doesn’t cover 1/100th of what it costs to raise kids here most welfare parents get less than 200$ per kid per month including food here. This girl is just spoiled rotten and lazy
When the first grandmother said “we need to find parenting classes “ I about flipped out!! She really does think she has equal (if not more) rights to her grandkids!!!
The only abusive mother is the grandmother who is cruel to her daughter and son-in-law. If she knew so much she wouldn’t be acting like a narcissist controlling brat.
Second mom might be using drugs, why would she sleep all day like that and lashes out like that. Grandma has a hard decision to make. Necessity is the mother of invention.
The older woman says she's afraid of losing her daughter but she's got to be really worried that without her care those little babies will suffer from neglect by the uncaring daughter.
"I get no privacy," "I had my 1st daughter at 21, I never got the bar scene" maybe you shouldn't have had kids back to back. Parenting is hard regardless of how many kids you have but Amy refuses to grow the heck up. Some people WON'T learn
The second mom with 4 kids, Amy. Omg! She is a spoiled brat who needs to grow up. The mom is enabling Amy. How dare Amy think she can sleep all over the living space all day in her parents' home? Rude! She needs to wake up, respect her parents, respect her living space, and start respecting herself. If she's depressed get some help, but im pretty sure being a jerk to your parents and throwing temper tantrums is not a sign of depression.
2nd mom, you've raised this young woman, spoiled her. Stop telling her how great she is, because she isn't. Call CPS for the children, SAVE them from this irresponsible childish mom.
I had four kids by the time I was 23. I made sure I was up every day before the kids woke up because it was my responsibility to provide total care for my children. Amy doesn’t have to do that because her mother does it all.
My mum had 4 under 5 by 24, and a husband that was gone for 1 month at a time, then back for 2 days, and then was gone again. She just got up and got on with it. It's your responsibility as a parent to do what you've got to do for your kids, whether you like it or not. Do I like it that my 9mo son is up sometimes 15 times a night on a bad night and then up at 5am?? Nope!! But that's just the way it is, so it's tough titties, I get up, and we start our day. No matter how little sleep I've had. I just go to bed earlier at night if I'm tired
Good for you, was your partner also abusive to the point he severly traumatised you? Did your mother put you on a world stage after you only left your abuser for 2 months?? You don't need to be a doctor to tell that this girl is severly depressed and traumatised. She sleeps her life away because she is in pain. She needs serious help.
The 2nd woman is lucky she even has a mum that lets her live with her. I was out of home at 18 and never had support from my mum since that time. This woman is ungrateful and mooching pure and simple. She's a mother of 4 children, she should grow up!
I am a 65-year-old divorced mother of three adult children all of whom are married two of whom are parents. Watching these shows makes me so grateful for the relationships I have with them. Anytime they call to complain about this spouses I point out what's good about this spouses and how sad it is to be alone as I am and encourage them to make it work. Of course if there was abuse it would be a different story but there is not. They always thank me later for being supportive of their spouse. It's such an easy formula why is this hard for mother-in-law's?
wow this is such an eye opener. there is so much to learn here. i hope dr phil realizes that hes doing humanity so good by allowing us to see what these behaviors look like. we get a window into how normal people can do harm and what it actually looks like. when seeing this in real time its such a learning experience
When you are a mother, there's no such thing as not being a "morning person." When you are a mother your children are your priority. Parents stop using your retired parents as "unpaid" baby sitters. If you're grown act grown. You're a guest in your parents home so you're overstaying your welcome. Certain places you can't go when you have no sitters. We are grandparents, not parents. We already grew our children by ourselves and don't want to do it again. Nobody will stay in my home and speak to me disrespectful. Grandma the parent is home go when you want to go and when the children starts to cry the disrespectful mother will have to get out of bed.
I just want to thank Dr Phil and the Dr Phil channel for finally releasing full episodes! I've been a Dr Phil addict since the early 2000's and finding full length episodes, especially from the early years, has always been a challenge! Please keep it up!
She’s severely depressed. We only heard a smidge of what happened in her marriage. Sounds like she was abused. She needs help, serious intervention help. Depression doesn’t mean that you lose ur kids!
@@VioletsvisionsCat she shouldn’t lose her kids because of depression, she should lose them because of neglect. How can she say she loves her kids and treat them that way?
I bet her mother was controlling and abusive her entire life, she hasn't been away from home very long, she still carries the fear she felt growing up with this woman, and can't get away from her so she can start the healing process
@@marciaterry2002this. People assume that the children of abusive parents aren't damaged. Everyone wants their parents approval even if we know it can never happen
The second daughter clearly loves sleeping in more than her children. The fact that she can be kind and giving and a loving mother but only does on her own terms makes me think she’s manipulating, lazy and selfish. Her parents don’t deserve to be used and abused like that. That girl disgusts me.
9:32 the problem with this mom is that she feels that she’s paid for the privilege to act this way. She has the right to treat her daughter the way she treats her. She’s paid for the right. Her daughter and her husband needs to hustle and pay their own bills and not allow this woman, who’s an absolute hypocrite, talk to them this way. She’s awful for telling her daughter her father won’t contact her, is her fault. Just to hurt her. She’s gross. Disgusting.
No need for me to watch this because I had a meddling mom and know the drill! For me it got so bad I was to the point of moving to another country and giving up my American citizenship to get away from her. ( I'm not lying about that either.) I told her I would do this if things didn't change. She backed off because she knew I was serious and was financially independent.
Did she find a new someone to boss around, bully & control? I'm curios to what they do when they lose their control over someone.. I have the misfortune to have delt with a few hard core narcissists, they always move on to the next victim. They can't live without using & abusing people...
Same here. It required courts and me moving away as well. Once my oldest child aged out ... My mother stopped harassing me. It was never about my childrens well-being even though that's what she told the courts. It was about controlling me and being offended that I rejected her "advice"
First of all .I feel sorry for the Grandma . She should be out somewhere having fun with friends . But instead she is still raising children . This daughter is running the house hold and she needs to grow up and find a job so she can take care of her own children .
Second girl is an addict, I can almost promise it. $70,000 in the last few years.... Yeah 100% she's an addict, I spent $40,000 in nearly 2 years on an ex of mine supporting her and her daughter (1/6 kids, only one she had custody of) and she was an addict.
I suspect drug abuse as well. Non drug users think, “Oh, she runs hot and cold…”Her substance and recovery are causing the hot and cold. Her defensiveness,immature control of emotions, her willingness to say the right thing but adamant refusal to DO the right thing screams substance abuse to me. I feel terrible for the mom and stepfather who , I believe, don’t realize it and keep doing everything they can to help her get launched. That girl is only gonna fly when she makes up her mind to do so.
I'm more familiar with alcohol abuse. my first thought from descriptions being out all night was out partying at bars, but when she said she had her kid with her and 'at a friend's house' all night....yea that goes deeper.
@@aubreymorgan9763 And, to be fair, a young parent could go off to a friends house with a young baby, stay all night, and not be up to anything too terrible. The problem is, she has three other little kids she leaves for her parents to care for. As a mom, it makes me angry because she just isn’t being responsible. The bc failed, you didn’t choose abortion, then if you don’t surrender your kids, you just chose parenting. It ain’t an easy yoke to shoulder, but it’s the path you chose. Don’t like it? It’s no longer your mother and stepdad’s responsibility to fix your life. Super irritating that they tried to get her (and hubby, apparently) launched with their own place and they not only didn’t meet their financial obligations, they didn’t even clean their own apartment 😡🤬
She has a 2 month old. She is obviously depressed. I think grandma is trying to make the daughter be someone else. She is 24 with 4 kids and is in a bad place and her mother just put her on TV to be demonized. No relationship will ever recover from this.
@@rachelcampbell9733 Yeah, but did you see them try to wake her for the interview? Or to care for her kids? My mother, God rest her soul, was 21, had 4 children under 5, when my crazy father returned from Service with full blown schizophrenia. She suffered all her life from depression and anxiety, but somehow she managed (with her parents help) to pull through and raise us more or less on her own. I still don’t know how she found the courage to do it. She sure didn’t go out all night and lie in bed all day letting someone else do all the work. I agree, the woman needs help, but she has to do some of it herself too. She brought all those children into the world…
My mother is exactly like the first mother. The police had been called for so many welfare checks that they would knock, ask how my day was and then as they turned to leave say “see you tomorrow”. This happened every time I had had enough of her being nasty and undermining my parenting and told her I needed to not talk to her. It goes deeper, but it’s been a year since going no contact and I don’t hate her, I am more indifferent to her, but I certainly don’t miss her.
First mother is too toxic to be in their lives without a LOT of time and work. That wicked thing she said to her daughter about her father on national tv? Imagine what she says behind closed doors. And please, because she’s says so THEY need parenting classes?
32:07 If Amy lived alone with her kids, and was still sleeping in, and going out until early morning hours. Child protective services would end up taking her kids!
I'm predicting that mom's husband filed for divorce and kicked both ladies out. Mother raised a spoiled brat (who turned the house into a hotel) and then was raising grandkids! What man will tolerate this ridiculousness...???
The first mom is awful. My mom said hurtful things like that and my husband took her aside and told her if she ever talked to me like that again we would change our number
Sorry, but you don’t go out and party all night, sleep for 12hrs and be a good mum. If your kids are up at 7, you are up at 7. Have some respect for your mother who has put a roof over your head, looks after your kids all day, feeds you and clothes you all and asks nothing except you be responsible and present for your kids
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You cannot sleep until 4:00 PM and take care of toddlers. You cannot sleep until 9:00 AM and take care of toddlers. YOU GET UP WHEN THEY GET UP and you watch them every second of the day until they go to sleep at night!
PS. You take care of ALL OF THEIR NEEDS IN BETWEEN!
She will never forgive herself if something horrible happens to those children while she is laying on the couch!
She doesn't care
She’s doing VVB it to stick not to the mother!
She'd probably blame the Granmother 😢
@@mariefricchione437 huh?
@@mhrgallprobably ‘very very best’ sarcastically
The 1st mother...🤯her tone of voice & facial expressions say it all...
Omg that first mother is something else!! Straight up SCORNED! The smirk on her face tells how much she’s enjoying seeing her daughter upset. She’s probably blamed the daughter for all 4-5 of her failed marriages too! Hope she did move far away from her!
The smirk!😠 She's a shocker.
The first grandma is a freaking nightmare. I hope her daughter was able to escape the abuse.
That grandma suspects her grandchildren are being neglected and her daughter is being abused. Didn't you hear that part?
That 1st grandmother never heard a word Dr. Phil said, she was still being passive aggressive and making threats. I don't see things getting better from her. 😢
She totally has some sort of substance abuse issues.
Nope.... shes definitely got a personality disorder
That evil hellbeast could murder someone on stage during a live taping and Dr Phil would still do his whole "kids need their precious grandma no matter how psycho" song and dance.
She’s also on drugs, you can tell. She’s emotionally immature and toxic because she’s a drug addict.
I agree. She was only paying lip service for the sake of preserving herself.
Grandma #1 looks like a heavy drinker. Dad's probably 'never been in Audrey's life' because he couldn't take Audrey's mother. She's not going to take any of Dr. Phil's suggestions, because he's not doing it her way.
Yep. I think it’s benzos too. Maybe some meth from looking at that jawline. Lol. She’s a long term alcoholic/addict and long term drug use causes brain damage. That’s why she’s so crazy,
She's a complete narcissist.
Right ?! Exactly !
I love when parents call their kids spoiled, when they have a huge part of why they are
I would guess alcohol and pills she looks high as a kite.
That first mother is crazy!!
Meaning, the grandmother
She is 💯 @@lydimaine-pope6753
@@lydimaine-pope6753bro who says that kinda stuff about their own daughter it was mean!
My mom is the exact same way. I’m 32 married with 2 young boys. She was very controlling, would criticize me and tell me and husband how to do things.
She looks wasted!
The second grandma I wish I had her here she is such an amazing Nan and her husband is just sweet! ❤
Yeah how amazing, putting your daughter who had a very abusive marriage and 4 pregnancies in a row, who is severely depressed and traumatised and only 2 months out of the hand of her abuser.. and lure her on stage for the whole world to see how she breaks down. So amazing.
@@fulaniyyahOh please! 🙄
I feel bad for the second mom. She and her husband are too old to have to worry and stress like this. Their daughter is draining them financially and spiritually. That’s no way to grow old. I hope they found a solution. ❤
The second "mom" is the reason the lazy worthless baby maker is that slob with Four kids she doesn't want, need, take care of. Bet the owner of the house and "second mom" will divorce!
The first daughter needs to go no contact and move away. That woman is going to continue to meddle in their lives forever if they don't. Yikes.
It's absolutely horrible that that mother blames the father's absence on the daughter. She has probably been emotionally verbally and mentally abusive to that poor girl her whole life. I really hope she moves on and leaves her abusive mother behind!
Her mother is still paying her way through life. She's a 24 year old loser
Gee, nothing like chasing after someone who doesn’t want you ❤😂
Audrey is co-dependent on her mother. She's a grown woman but can't tell her mother "no". I disagree with Dr. Phil; that mother will NEVER back off. They need to move away and not tell mom where they go.
They should move away from the grandmother.
First grandparent states "He's not a good parent and he favours one over the other" followed by "As I do".
Did anyone else catch that?
Yes, I caught that. She is guilty of the same thing she accuses him of.
I sure did!
I heard it. Even if it's true, she should not have said it.
Snap.
Yes
A social worker appeared at my door one day because 'someone' had accused me of abusing my children. I immediately said, "All of my kids happen to be at home right now. I'll stay where I am while you find them around the house and in the back yard and you can speak with them privately." She wasn't there but a hot minute before she said the 'report of abuse' was obviously bogus. Shortly after that incident, I moved my kids to another state and never spoke to my mother again. Best decision I ever made. I only wish I'd done it sooner.
You assumed it was your mother or you were confirmed and then moved states 🤔
I had the same thing with my bio family. Repeatedly whole sale invented things trying to have my children taken from me and I've been no contact with any of them for a decade now. Kids are happy, healthy and grown and it was the best thing I ever did for myself.
I went through the same thing with my own mother. And no contact for 4 years now. Best decision I ever made.
Well done, and I wish you all the best for your future.
I'm so proud of you for having the strength to take care of your family and cut the toxic influence out. ❤ 😊 🌿 🙆🏻♀️ 👍🏽
@@tejeshrimahajan3954obviously she knew it was her mother. 🙄
That first mom just DARVO'd the eff out of her daughter with that father line. Holy moly
That was so awful. I can't imagine hating your own child that much! What is wrong with her?
That was an awful thing to say to that child
She so did.
I was absolutely floored when that awful women said that!!!! What an evil B Word!!!!!!!
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Girl get up and raise ur kids and stop depending on everyone. Stop blaming everyone else.
It might very well be post partium depression.
She has four kids…. This is laziness and entitlement, at its worst.
@@alisonbarker3862if she was fat she’d just be lazy. Shut up
4 kids, how about birth control
@alisonbarker3862 Stop making his Excuses. This hurts people beyond belief
im 45, i live alone and still get chills up my spine when my mother calls me
I lost both my parents at 55 years old. I am now 64 and I would GIVE ANYTHING to see my Momma again. I am sorry you don't have that kind of love.
Have you told her yet ? My son is 40 and I used to worry too much about him when I didn't need to and he was too polite to tell me , over time I started realising what I was doing and started unearthing why I worried , it went back to my Mother treating my father and brothers with kid gloves , took a while to understand and be able to mind myself and let my Son do the same , we have a healthy no stress connection now. Wishing you well from the West of Ireland.
same. I have CPTSD and have been struggling to stay no contact.
You got four kids you're not taking care of?
Only thing Dr Phil said that I agree with. That was YOU TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO TREAT YOU. I think that goes double for pushy mothers.
When someone is that toxic as that first mother I dont believe it is a bad thing to break ties ... poison is poison
Right! She doesn’t want to change.
She’s poison running through her veins
You can see the look on the first mother's face.
She is arrogant she is right !
Unless this couple sets boundaries with the mother / mother in law.
they may lose their marriage and potentially the kids.She will try to take the kids cause SHE KNOWS BEST!
For women sometimes their first bully is their mother
Or mother in law😢
I didn’t bully my kids because I loved them
@@kellypolfleit3942was that a direct quote from the show?
@@aggieyerex8175wow, that was an awful thing to say and I’m sorry she said it.
Or father.
I got pregnant at 16. My mother said right away, that's your baby, I will only take care of her while you are working or schooling. It made me grow up real fast and able to take care of my baby myself. At the time I thought my mom was being a bit harsh. Looking back it was the best thing for me and my daughter.
The second daughter is TRYING?? Seriously??!! 4 kids under 4 and sleeping until 4:30 pm and keeping her kid or Kid(s) out till 4:30 am??? WTH.
Sometimes that is what depression looks like. Trying can be 'trying to not feel depressed' which takes 70% of one's energy. Take it from somebody who knows.
@@timothydraper3687 i imagine self medicating is also part of the problem. Prayers
Unfortunately when you have children you neeeeeeed to think about them even if you’re depressed and if you CANT, then you need to go to your local social services department and ask for help.
@@Shottas4Twenty Which can be a challenge in itself to do if one is depressed, to summon the effort/energy/agency to go to local social services.
What is the Second Grandmother looking for because she is DEFENDING HER DAUGHTER all the way! It looks like she has been saying YES to her SPOILT LITTLE BRAT ALL HER LIFE! The daughter seems entitled she never heard the word NO all her life, that's why she has four kids at 24 years old.😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧
NO ONE DESERVES a mom like Amy. Those poor poor children.
Grandparenting is a priveledge...
NOT a right for a grandparent.
If a grandparent can't foster a healthy relationship with their adult child... They have no right to that adult childs children.
Know your place and respect ADULT boundaries grandma.
AGREE
In California there is a thing called grandparents rights and can go to court to get visitation.
Shhhhh...some grandparents don't need to know that@@jkmarblejk7445
In France they have rights (!). Glad we live in the Netherlands. My husband cut ties with his abusive father when i was 20w pregnant afyer his fTher punched him in the face
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Thank the states that banned grandparents rights! Some of these grandparents are like the first guest- she’s a certified nut who intimidates, threatens, attacks, undermines ect 😣
Amy needs to live on her own asap. She will never appreciate her mother unless she actually has to struggle.
The problem is that she IS struggling for way too long. She had an abusive marriage, 4 pregnancies in a row, severely depressed and traumatised and is only 2 months out of the hands of her abuser. Are people really that insensitive to the facts? She needs HELP.
The second mother is 100% right.This girl has no business sleeping all day when she has 4 children awake 😢
Abortion is sometimes the most responsible and healthy choice!!
So is adoption and FKING BIRTH CONTROL!!!!
She keeps saying she’s doing the best she can. Not even close
She's obviously got mental health issues; depression or something. People don't choose to behave like this. They probably shouldn't have children until their mental illness is managed.
But she enables her. And the minute she stops, 'mom threw us out on the street'.
Kids come first
The second story with the girl sleeping all day and not taking care of her kids that’s crazy !! Then she shouldn’t have 4 kids ..her mom should kick that daughter out !! She has a bad attitude and Maybe she should use birth control !! She so angry because she knows that she not a good mom !! Bringing her daughter out until 4 am !! That mom needs to stop letting her daughter walk all over her she is an adult even though she acting like a child !! And you know that mom won’t kick her out !!
Absolutely right !
She said that two of her kids are evidence that the pill doesn't always work. She's correct in that it doesn't work if not taken as directed.
Run away little girl. Because she knows she's getting off easy. Is there a grown up boot camp 😂
You might be onto something. Rehab for entitled brats
Grandma looks like she is on some kind of medication.
I’m glad you mentioned it because I thought the same thing. Her eyelids were partially closed part of the time.
She's a drunk!!! That's drunk face. And skin.
Medication that's 80 proof.
I wondered too
I thought so too
Amy was never told no as a kid. She’s a brat.
mums paying for it 2 fold now
Indeed.
Thats whar you have when you inbreed she should go back fn
Agreed
Exactly, the mother is to blame for all of this.
The fact that second woman is 24, with four kids, and she ran off crying like a toddler is alarming
4pm is not an appropriate time for a MOM to wake up, especially when they're little. She knows that she is in the wrong, that's why she ran off stage.
Who is taking care of her kids all day?
She’s finally been called on her 💩
@@AnastasiaRomanov-w9x the grandparents, the girl's mother and father
Where is the father?
@@broski3128 what father? Lol
1st family - divorce grandma. 2nd family - divorce daughter. After that, everything will fall into place. I can't understand why people let themselves be trodden on.
Stop talking dr Phil, call child services for that 4 children.
Yep lets traumatise a whole family and expect it to overcome that too. Dr Phil says himself that the system is broken
I think she should file for full custody of her grandchildren
I'm pretty sure he did
He's always going on about how he's a mandated reporter . So do some reporting already lol
Amy does the switch with her mother. On the show Amy turned things around and made her mother constantly defend herself ! Every time
Acts like a teenager
4 kids at 24 …where are the dads
Money?..Not sure how it works in the USA but here in Australia these women get a lot of money from Social Security .Disgusting multiple kids with multiple men.More kids more money.Poor kids.
I wonder if she knows herself. A 2 month old baby!! She can’t sleep as late as she likes with children that young. She had them, put on your big girl panties and properly care for those helpless babies.
@@nadiabrstak5646lol we do NOT get paid to have kids in the US. And welfare doesn’t cover 1/100th of what it costs to raise kids here most welfare parents get less than 200$ per kid per month including food here. This girl is just spoiled rotten and lazy
First girl and husband need to move far away. With no forwarding address.
When the first grandmother said “we need to find parenting classes “ I about flipped out!! She really does think she has equal (if not more) rights to her grandkids!!!
I audibly gasped when she said that it's her daughter's fault for her father's neglect! Heartbreaking she's soo mean ❤
She's evil
She controls her daughter with demeaning & belittling. Good riddens.
Me too, I’m surprised Dr Phil didn’t say something..
I could not believe she said that. I audibly gasped too. She is wicked.
That's a step down from my mother. Evil is right. Abuse is bad enough without speaking for the father that isnt there!! Sad.
No dr Phil, sometimes it is much better not having this grandmonster😊
She’ll mess us her heads. Limited time with her
100% agree. Having that monster grandma say those things in front of those kids is only hurting them
Agree. Once courts are involved I'd be moving to a land far far away
I agree get away from her
The only abusive mother is the grandmother who is cruel to her daughter and son-in-law. If she knew so much she wouldn’t be acting like a narcissist controlling brat.
Second mom might be using drugs, why would she sleep all day like that and lashes out like that. Grandma has a hard decision to make. Necessity is the mother of invention.
Depression
Audrey. Run as far away as you can from your crazy & evil old mother! This is not love! It’s disgusting & narcissistic abuse!
How dare anyone ask the 2nd daughter to actuality get up and take care of HER OWN KIDS!🤣
The nerve of them! 😂😆
The entitlement of the daughter in the 2nd case is just disgusting.
That let her get away with it. It's going to keep happening.
The older woman says she's afraid of losing her daughter but she's got to be really worried that without her care those little babies will suffer from neglect by the uncaring daughter.
It’s all learned behaviour hun
On the first mother, I could be wrong, but it looks like to me she's on something 😢 and the mother didn't hear one word doctor phil said 😢
She looks very medicated… half awake, at best.
Probably a xanny bar or two…
@@daynasafranek7807I don't think she has that excuse. She just naturally has those weird half closed eyes.
Yes I agree!! First thing I thought. She looks drunk
She looks doped up
"I get no privacy," "I had my 1st daughter at 21, I never got the bar scene" maybe you shouldn't have had kids back to back. Parenting is hard regardless of how many kids you have but Amy refuses to grow the heck up. Some people WON'T learn
Loving that when that second girl storms off in a tantrum and all the pictures on all the walls are Dr. Phil's face 😂
I thought the same thing, the only thing worse would have been her mother’s face.
@@badclown08 that would have been epic 🤣
Wow...her kids are 3, 2, 1 and 2 months old...WTF☹️😮💨😵💫 WHY!? I believe this was about 15-18 years go🤔 I would love to see an update.
Probably by now 12 kids
On another video of this same story, Amy was commenting and sadly she said her mother is dead now.
@@VideoFanatic02 Do you have a link to that update story?
The second mom with 4 kids, Amy. Omg! She is a spoiled brat who needs to grow up. The mom is enabling Amy. How dare Amy think she can sleep all over the living space all day in her parents' home? Rude! She needs to wake up, respect her parents, respect her living space, and start respecting herself. If she's depressed get some help, but im pretty sure being a jerk to your parents and throwing temper tantrums is not a sign of depression.
2nd mom, you've raised this young woman, spoiled her. Stop telling her how great she is, because she isn't. Call CPS for the children, SAVE them from this irresponsible childish mom.
She has 4 unattended kids if she’s sleeping until 4;30 in the afternoon
Should be referred to child protective services.
I was so fortunate to have a GREAT mother. Some of these mothers make me even more grateful!
You don’t deserve privacy living in your mother’s house. Leave if that’s what you want.
This couple doesn’t stand a chance if the mom stays in their life.
We're on year 23 now! We made it😊
She's at a very long arms length! We moved.
I had four kids by the time I was 23. I made sure I was up every day before the kids woke up because it was my responsibility to provide total care for my children. Amy doesn’t have to do that because her mother does it all.
My mum had 4 under 5 by 24, and a husband that was gone for 1 month at a time, then back for 2 days, and then was gone again. She just got up and got on with it. It's your responsibility as a parent to do what you've got to do for your kids, whether you like it or not. Do I like it that my 9mo son is up sometimes 15 times a night on a bad night and then up at 5am?? Nope!! But that's just the way it is, so it's tough titties, I get up, and we start our day. No matter how little sleep I've had. I just go to bed earlier at night if I'm tired
Good for you, was your partner also abusive to the point he severly traumatised you? Did your mother put you on a world stage after you only left your abuser for 2 months?? You don't need to be a doctor to tell that this girl is severly depressed and traumatised. She sleeps her life away because she is in pain. She needs serious help.
As a grandmother I will say that grandchildren are a blessing BUT as one gets older they should not be expected to start over raising more kids.
Who ask you to babysit or raise children.
When he said, “i’ll just go over here and eat worms” snot actually shot out of my nose🤣🤣🤣
Cool, did you eat it? Snot is yummy.
Worms:
"Leave us out of this!"
@@bluecollarlit😂
The 2nd woman is lucky she even has a mum that lets her live with her. I was out of home at 18 and never had support from my mum since that time. This woman is ungrateful and mooching pure and simple. She's a mother of 4 children, she should grow up!
She is my mother passed when I was 21 just before my first child was born.
My gosh, she needs to break all ties with her mother. She's insane.
I have been in health care for 40 years. You can't 'fix' a situation, no matter how hard you try. Sometimes it better just to walk away & leave.
The first is a very wicket mother
I am a 65-year-old divorced mother of three adult children all of whom are married two of whom are parents. Watching these shows makes me so grateful for the relationships I have with them. Anytime they call to complain about this spouses I point out what's good about this spouses and how sad it is to be alone as I am and encourage them to make it work. Of course if there was abuse it would be a different story but there is not. They always thank me later for being supportive of their spouse. It's such an easy formula why is this hard for mother-in-law's?
The first MIL has evil eyes…
I was distracted by her Karen-hair 🤣
@@audreym3777Yes, that too. She’s such an awful, malignant personality. It just shows right through to the outside.
As long as you guys continue to ENABLE her,..your stuck
The daughter going he left bc of you was so amazing
wow this is such an eye opener. there is so much to learn here. i hope dr phil realizes that hes doing humanity so good by allowing us to see what these behaviors look like. we get a window into how normal people can do harm and what it actually looks like. when seeing this in real time its such a learning experience
The first mom didn't take to heart that she is wrong.
She wants to do everything her way, but she also wants her mother and stepfather to pay for everything. You can’t just be half grown up.
When you are a mother, there's no such thing as not being a "morning person." When you are a mother your children are your priority. Parents stop using your retired parents as "unpaid" baby sitters. If you're grown act grown. You're a guest in your parents home so you're overstaying your welcome. Certain places you can't go when you have no sitters. We are grandparents, not parents. We already grew our children by ourselves and don't want to do it again. Nobody will stay in my home and speak to me disrespectful. Grandma the parent is home go when you want to go and when the children starts to cry the disrespectful mother will have to get out of bed.
I just want to thank Dr Phil and the Dr Phil channel for finally releasing full episodes! I've been a Dr Phil addict since the early 2000's and finding full length episodes, especially from the early years, has always been a challenge! Please keep it up!
Amy needs to lose her kids.
She will probably go and have more!
She’s severely depressed. We only heard a smidge of what happened in her marriage. Sounds like she was abused.
She needs help, serious intervention help.
Depression doesn’t mean that you lose ur kids!
@@VioletsvisionsCat she shouldn’t lose her kids because of depression, she should lose them because of neglect. How can she say she loves her kids and treat them that way?
@@VioletsvisionsCat No depression does not mean that you should lose ur kids. It means that you still have 4 kids that need your love and attention!!!
That was on of the cruelest things ive ever heard a mother say to her daughter,that its her fault her father doesnt like her
NO CONTACT. It works
That wife in that first situation needs to grow up! You are married with children and afraid your "mommy" will yell at you?? WTH??
I bet her mother was controlling and abusive her entire life, she hasn't been away from home very long, she still carries the fear she felt growing up with this woman, and can't get away from her so she can start the healing process
It's hard when you have been told all your life that your a piece of sht by your mom ! I've lived it
@@marciaterry2002this. People assume that the children of abusive parents aren't damaged. Everyone wants their parents approval even if we know it can never happen
But look at mom what a disfunctional
It takes a long time to recognize narcissistic abuse because it’s so insidious.
The second daughter clearly loves sleeping in more than her children. The fact that she can be kind and giving and a loving mother but only does on her own terms makes me think she’s manipulating, lazy and selfish. Her parents don’t deserve to be used and abused like that. That girl disgusts me.
First couple should move away, change phone numbers, and never have anything to do with her mom.
Does anybody use birth control anymore?
Exactly
@@kafiyabihi5848she did. She said the pill failed her 2 times.
No they dont. Listen to any debate about having kids. NO ONE believes in birth control. They go straight to talking abortion.
You must have skipped over Amy saying she was on the pill but the last two happened anyway...
She can’t afford it
She’s a spoiled brat!!!
I would love updates as it's over 10 years ago now!
Mom needs to understand that she can’t repair her own mistakes, via her daughter and grandchildren.
1st Grandma = OG Karen 🙄
9:32 the problem with this mom is that she feels that she’s paid for the privilege to act this way. She has the right to treat her daughter the way she treats her. She’s paid for the right. Her daughter and her husband needs to hustle and pay their own bills and not allow this woman, who’s an absolute hypocrite, talk to them this way. She’s awful for telling her daughter her father won’t contact her, is her fault. Just to hurt her. She’s gross. Disgusting.
This!! 🙌💯
Yeah…that was the most immature and cruel thing she did on camera…and the list was long in just that short time!
How wicked do you have to be to do that on national television and think you're the hero?
No need for me to watch this because I had a meddling mom and know the drill! For me it got so bad I was to the point of moving to another country and giving up my American citizenship to get away from her. ( I'm not lying about that either.) I told her I would do this if things didn't change. She backed off because she knew I was serious and was financially independent.
Did she find a new someone to boss around, bully & control?
I'm curios to what they do when they lose their control over someone..
I have the misfortune to have delt with a few hard core narcissists, they always move on to the next victim. They can't live without using & abusing people...
Same here. It required courts and me moving away as well.
Once my oldest child aged out ... My mother stopped harassing me. It was never about my childrens well-being even though that's what she told the courts. It was about controlling me and being offended that I rejected her "advice"
I am very careful never to say anything to my daughters. They are wonderful mothers.
And I enjoy being grandma.
@@moniqueengleman873 I'm happy for you, your daughters and your grandchildren!🤔😏🙂🤘
@karenmonson9893 thank you. I have five daughters. We have been through a lot together ❤️
First of all .I feel sorry for the Grandma . She should be out somewhere having fun with friends . But instead she is still raising children . This daughter is running the house hold and she needs to grow up and find a job so she can take care of her own children .
You need to move ALL across the country. In this case, maybe across the world!
That first mother is just plain evil
They obviously have not experienced the bucket of ice water treatment. That will get you up quickly.
😂 correct
@@lydiaawuor5170 My parents did that to me ONCE. After that I slept in my clothes but still made it up to do my chores and feed all the animals
My parents did frozen marbles, lol.
OMG that's what I was thinking too!
Second girl is an addict, I can almost promise it. $70,000 in the last few years.... Yeah 100% she's an addict, I spent $40,000 in nearly 2 years on an ex of mine supporting her and her daughter (1/6 kids, only one she had custody of) and she was an addict.
I suspect drug abuse as well. Non drug users think, “Oh, she runs hot and cold…”Her substance and recovery are causing the hot and cold. Her defensiveness,immature control of emotions, her willingness to say the right thing but adamant refusal to DO the right thing screams substance abuse to me.
I feel terrible for the mom and stepfather who , I believe, don’t realize it and keep doing everything they can to help her get launched. That girl is only gonna fly when she makes up her mind to do so.
I'm more familiar with alcohol abuse. my first thought from descriptions being out all night was out partying at bars, but when she said she had her kid with her and 'at a friend's house' all night....yea that goes deeper.
@@aubreymorgan9763 And, to be fair, a young parent could go off to a friends house with a young baby, stay all night, and not be up to anything too terrible.
The problem is, she has three other little kids she leaves for her parents to care for.
As a mom, it makes me angry because she just isn’t being responsible. The bc failed, you didn’t choose abortion, then if you don’t surrender your kids, you just chose parenting. It ain’t an easy yoke to shoulder, but it’s the path you chose.
Don’t like it? It’s no longer your mother and stepdad’s responsibility to fix your life. Super irritating that they tried to get her (and hubby, apparently) launched with their own place and they not only didn’t meet their financial obligations, they didn’t even clean their own apartment 😡🤬
She has a 2 month old. She is obviously depressed. I think grandma is trying to make the daughter be someone else. She is 24 with 4 kids and is in a bad place and her mother just put her on TV to be demonized. No relationship will ever recover from this.
@@rachelcampbell9733 Yeah, but did you see them try to wake her for the interview? Or to care for her kids?
My mother, God rest her soul, was 21, had 4 children under 5, when my crazy father returned from Service with full blown schizophrenia. She suffered all her life from depression and anxiety, but somehow she managed (with her parents help) to pull through and raise us more or less on her own.
I still don’t know how she found the courage to do it. She sure didn’t go out all night and lie in bed all day letting someone else do all the work.
I agree, the woman needs help, but she has to do some of it herself too. She brought all those children into the world…
My mother is exactly like the first mother. The police had been called for so many welfare checks that they would knock, ask how my day was and then as they turned to leave say “see you tomorrow”. This happened every time I had had enough of her being nasty and undermining my parenting and told her I needed to not talk to her. It goes deeper, but it’s been a year since going no contact and I don’t hate her, I am more indifferent to her, but I certainly don’t miss her.
Do we have the same mother?
Do we have the same mother?
I was lucky, I had the best mother in law ever and I loved her dearly.
First mother is too toxic to be in their lives without a LOT of time and work. That wicked thing she said to her daughter about her father on national tv? Imagine what she says behind closed doors. And please, because she’s says so THEY need parenting classes?
32:07 If Amy lived alone with her kids, and was still sleeping in, and going out until early morning hours. Child protective services would end up taking her kids!
She comes home. Children are gone. Surprise!!! The children need more.
30:31 Love when the contestant gets mad at the Audience 😂😂😂
Pleeease guve us an update on the 2nd mom and daughter with the four kids!!! TY !!!
I'm predicting that mom's husband filed for divorce and kicked both ladies out. Mother raised a spoiled brat (who turned the house into a hotel) and then was raising grandkids! What man will tolerate this ridiculousness...???
The first mom is awful. My mom said hurtful things like that and my husband took her aside and told her if she ever talked to me like that again we would change our number
“….I’m gonna go over there and eat worms.” Dr. Phil is hilarious 😂
It always makes me laugh when parents say: “she is a spoiled brat” about their kids. I mean, you raised them so 🤷♀️😂😂
Mom #2 is an enabler. She has coddled her .
She’s a disgusting daughter. She can’t do anything.
Sorry, but you don’t go out and party all night, sleep for 12hrs and be a good mum. If your kids are up at 7, you are up at 7. Have some respect for your mother who has put a roof over your head, looks after your kids all day, feeds you and clothes you all and asks nothing except you be responsible and present for your kids
A house divided against itself will "not" stand, this young mother with 4 four children, is too irresponsible and unreliable to handle motherhood.
First grandma wouldn't be in our lives period if i were them. Move away and dont tell her where you are going!