On the Trail of a Serial Killer - Law & Order SVU
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- After two known rapists are murdered by the same weapon, Elliot Stabler and Olivia Benson realise they're looking for a serial killer.
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From Season 2, Episode 13 "Victims" - A cop-turned-activist (Eric Roberts) becomes a suspect in the killings of several rapists who were recently paroled.
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I can't blame Elliot for flying off the handle like he did. The captain had to have known this would be a delicate subject for him and still chose to assign this case to him out of all the officers he could have in precinct. The way I see it, the captain is irresponsible for putting a detective on a case he would have a personal stake in.
The way I see it, ........... It is Hollywood it makes for good TV that is why they call it drama series
Naw Cragen is in charge, Elliot is wrong. His whole job is dealing with these monsters, you can't get mad cause your boss tells you something you don't like. If everyone acted like Elliot they wouldn't have a job to come back to.
@@tia4057 Cragen seems to defend criminals then law abiding citizens. I've seen him do this many times on this show.
@@zeaferjones1404 Then he's doing his job, cops aren't meant to be rambo. Society isn't free if we are unwilling to uphold everyone's rights, no matter how repugnant they are.
@@louiscypher4186 You are just using that as an excuse to protect criminals like the people shoplifting in San Francisco. I'd rather live in a free for all than a society that benefits criminals.
Uh..... who the hell would assign Elliot to this case!? He has some pretty violent personal feelings about this case. You don't assign cases to officers or detectives who are personally involved. It's hard to get fair, thorough, and proper police work that way.
If he can't control himself then he shouldn't be in that profession to begin with.
Guys stop I can't like all these comments
@@kuywasaamazikeen8048 This is like the definition of conflict of interest. What's to stop him from just 'losing' evidence or just not contributing to the case. Its really just unnecessary drama.
I respect this police officer more because he's saying he can't do the case.
Honestly is an abuse survivor if I was a police officer I'd have a hard time doing this too
@@meggrotte4760 listen to what Cragen is saying.
Elliot shouldn't have been assigned to this case. He's too close to the suspect which can compromise his judgement.
blame opp they were the ones who told Cragen to do it
Plus as a father himself, he just couldn’t bring himself to solve a murder of someone who’s committed crimes against children
In this case an unsolved case would be an happy ending
At this point in the series, after the psych eval that almost wrecked the team and cost them Jeffries, it was pretty dumb of cragen to have one of his detectives with the most temper issues try and overcome them to help a dead criminal who hurt a little girl (when it's obvious that Elliot always has a soft spot for daughters who are victims since he has two daughters himself).
Unless this was cragen's attempt to get Elliot to learn something and grow from the experience (which Elliot only did because he saw in the murderer what he could've become himself, though cragen had no way of knowing that) then it was almost like he was setting Elliot up to fail.
Cragen didn’t have kids of his own. So he couldn’t have understood what Stabler was feeling
@@joewhitehead3 true, but you don't need to in order to see the risk that Elliot posed. Elliot having kids was already well known
@@juliantapia1407 There’s a difference between knowing & understanding
@@joewhitehead3 yes, and it's a difference that a Captain who's squad has already been shaken (never mind the kinds of drama we see Kragen experienced back in the original l&w seasons) should've been able to acknowledge without risking making it worse
I think it's implied the higher ups we're getting Cragen to assign this case to Elliot as punishment for confessing to fantasizing about killing pedophiles to the psychiatrist.
Never have I been so annoyed with Cragen. Sometimes, you need to let things go. This was one of those times
Everyone seems to forget One Police Plaza ordered them to take the case.
I think Captain Cragen was wrong for that. Yeah, the man is dead but seriously we all know she never killed him but yet Cragen is forcing Stabler to drag the mother of a victim into the station like a perp.
In all fairness the mother is a good suspect so its right to bring her in.
What's not right is Cragen assigning an SVU detective to a case which is just an ordinary homicide. Assigning Stabler is just asking for trouble.
@@gregjenkinson7512 True. I mean if I were Captain, I'd assign someone else to the case like I don't know...Munch perhaps or even Fin.
@@gregjenkinson7512 did you miss the part about one police plaza? that was Cragen's superiors to do it.
A serial killer targeting rapists? Hmm this is interesting. I don't agree with murder but honestly I applaud this killer. Murder is no doubt evil in my books but in this case it's an evil that serves righteousness...it hard no to feel satisfaction from this.
Serial killer? I prefer vigilante doing the good work.
Americas legal system is flawed. If the law wasn't so liberal more of the real criminals would get the justice they deserve. Most of the criminals in American jails tend to be in jail for spur of the moment crimes.
@@shahidulkhan9566 They're in jail because most couldn't afford a better lawyer. There's the system for the rich and there's the system for poor.
@@shahidulkhan9566 actually rapists getting away with it is a conservative thing
when I say the following, I'm not saying your evil or anything like that.
there's a difference between 'we won't feel sorry for those he killed' and 'we don't wanna put him in jail for this'. I get exactly what you mean. Justice will be done one way or another.
“I’m glad he’s dead” Olivia: o_o
How to make yourself look like the one who did 101 right there
Seriously, I can excuse some of the stuff L&O does for drama but making a detective investigate the murder of a man he put away for a crime like the one committed is fucking stupid.
blame one police plaza
Whoever killed the guy deserves a medal for public service.
And that is why America is a nation of hypocrites.
Kragen was doing his job but it was still very cruel to make Elliot handle this case.
Handing this case over to homicide wouldn’t have been a bad idea
Yeah...you see Eric Roberts, just arrest him. He's the bad guy. :)
Reminds me of something I saw. If the SVU special guest star isn't a lawyer, they're the perp.
He's played a good guy more than once.
That's right @DarthTach - I've seen enough straight to VHS / DVD movies to know that to be true... 🤣
not the bad guy, the good guy killing bad guys. personally I think most of the parole boards int his country should get due every times one of these people commit a crime
@@ElCid48
That’s not quite fair. If they reoffend by shoplifting? Smoking a joint? Come on! If they reoffend by raping someone? Investigate the board.
This was one of the best episodes of SVU. That’s just my opinion. It had you guessing, wondering, pulling you further in. Is it her? Is it him? Terrific writing.
They also had more than one guest star, so you didn't know right off the bat who had done it (which was something of a trope with the Law & Order series of shows sometimes).
Elliot Stabler should've spent time with his family in this episode
This episode just screams murder you have everybody being written off as the murderer but then again it's hard to tell if Eric Roberts is
Well, he's right there in the onlooking crowd at the end (7:38). Too much of a coincidence.
It’s not murder if you’re killing a monster
Though a shot to the head is too generous
“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”
@@seppukumouse8005 Garbage quote. Killing convicted serial rapists is not the same.
@@WadeAlma then you misunderstood the qoute. At some point someone killing pedos/serial rapists will kill cause someone innocent purely cause they enjoy killing or kill someone who was wrongfully convicted.
@@seppukumouse8005 So someone purposefully killing convicted pedos will now kill innocent people. I didn't misunderstand anything. The quote is stupid. Farmers kill cows all the time. They don't go out killing other people's pets or murdering people. It's a stupid quote.
@@seppukumouse8005 Nietzsche.
Never having children unless the father acts like Eliot Stabler
Law and order is the best show ever
Yes
Meh
I would have quit tbh. They could not have made me do it
Loved Cragen to death, but I never agreed with him putting Stabler on this case
Stabler is a good cop but he's too hot headed
that is the male aspect of him. most men today are babies
I think he just cares too much. & since he has children of his own, there are some cases that he takes personally
That would make him a bad cop for being too personal.
its sad that eric roberts and his daughter emma have not spoken in so long.
This episode took me aback with the outcome!!!
Give the killer a medal not a jail sentence.
It's not this guy's place to play judge, jury and executioner. Personally, I think pedophiles should be, you know, equipped with some kind of tracking device they can't take off. But not killed by some vigilante.
I’m not a fan of vigilante justice, but it seems to me that if you feel that you are 100% justified in your actions- you don’t run.
Unless you live somewhere like NYC or Chicago where the law persecutes honest citizens for defending their lives, businesses and communities.
he is an ex cop... the treatment he would get in jail wouldn't be different from the one given to a s*x criminal.
he goes down in a jail cell, he is cooked in the first fight they get there.
besides, cops can be and are criminals without that grey line that is present in this case.
that enough is a reason to run
I would have gone home
Why didn’t he just take some sick days ?
Because it's a TV show ffs
I’d say good job to the vigilante killing them
Serial killing of rapists must be a terrible conundrum for cops. It's not that they want to investigate. But typical of vigilantes, some innocent person ends up being targeted eventually.
I see these two negatives as a positive 🤷♀️
He's a monster for abusing that child
"I was ready to cap that dirtbag myself no you expect me to work homeacide"
Olivia's beret.
He shouldn't have been made part of the case because there is an evident conflict of interest for him from the getgo.
He didn’t wanna be part of the case at all
Brilliant line up all the other women wore dark coloured coats the suspect a beige coloured coat
And was placed in the center🙄
Normally i side with Cregan but Elliot is right here
Yes
Has Cragen ever met Seargent Hank Voight? I think they'll be best pals. Both of them seem to think that policemen with personal feelings about cases should work these cases. Elliot was right deciding to sit this out.
Is conflict of interest not also a thing with the police?
There are some things that are wrong but are the right thing to do, just letting the pedophiles murder go unsolved would have been wrong morally but it would have been the right thing to do
Shoulda been homicide’s case
This is a serial killer I can get behind.
Elliot could’ve simply put in for vacation time right then and there. The union would back him.
I really hated the Elliot subplot in this. In so many similar crime solving shows like criminal mind and csi, they always have to do some kind of bureaucratic threat like this, that threatens to split up the team, and it's like the show is dark enough i don't actually need to see the leads having the rest of thier lives trashed to enjoy the show. When do we get to see good bosses and supportive work enviroments??
The guy who was at the first and second crime crime scene was killer I believe
Stabler should have developed a very serious case of blue flu. Not a doctor in the world wouldn't write a note backing up how seriously ill he is. Probably can't work for the next month. Hell, he's probably sick enough that he needs to be on short-term disability.
Of course--and yes, I know it's a TV show, you don't need to "inform" me--this is completely unrealistic. A detective who is so personally involved in a case would have been pulled five minutes before he even caught it, and he certainly wouldn't be assigned to it, even if he begged.
It was Forsman right
Really hated the captain after that. That officer should have quit. Quit.
Ah the world of prime time TV procedural where superiors will assign their subordinates to work they have a conflict of interest in for the sake of a character building opportunity 😅
It's pretty obvious who did this from the very start
What episode is this
Spoiler??
KARMA......
Ok…this show pisses me off sometimes. There is no way that he’d work a case with a personal investment in. His supervisor sure as hell shouldn’t be acting like this.
If I was in Elliot’s position I’d hand my badge in
What episode and season number was this
Season 2 episode 13
I much as I understand the killer’s motives, I still think that you shouldn’t kill anyone regardless of what they did to you and or a family member of yours
on one hand i definitely agree with you, if anything is sacred in this world, it’s life.
but then on the other hand........
Nah I don’t pedophiles should die
@@XIIIphobos look I understand why someone would feel angry enough to want to kill a child predator but they shouldn’t actually do it since it means more than likely spending the remainder of their life in prison, which to me is far from worth it
@@camishavilme7402 neither do I but if they are to die it should be of natural causes and also while their rotting in prison
To take revenge is wrong, you become a monster yourself!
These early episodes didn't make any sense, this wouldn't happen in real life
I want to see a Police Producer that does what LO does only it completely stomps on it. Where the bad guys get off Scott free because the police corruption, where the hot head cops get either fired, arrested, or killed and the unit captains lose their job for bullshit they pull like this.
People and them feelings
Captain Cragan shouldn't give Elliott that case he doesn't do justice for rapists being killed he saves victims from those monsters & Elliott deserves to fight & argue with his boss who was acting like a friend or an Ally towards the rapists.
What is this Big (B)symbol at the top of my phone on the left side,I think it's like a bank are something but my question is for who.
Elliot has no spine
You have no dyck.
Us
20!!!!!!!!! YEAAH
I can’t wait to see the Baltimore ravens versus the New York jets on September 11th 2022 and see a special ceremony for the 20th anniversary of 9/11 on September 11th 2022 at the New York jets stadium in Rutherford New Jersey
what episode is this?
Season 2 Episode 13, Victims. A vigilante was targeting rapists and pedaphiles and the squad had the case forced down their throat. Especially Stabler
Can't say I blame the killer...
Neither can I, but I still think he or she shouldn’t being going around killing convenient and or non convenient child predators
I wouldn't. Hell, I'd have more than half a mind to let her go.
@@foolslayer9416 could you specify what you mean by that for me?
@@jordanlogan279 As in I'd be more likely to let her go.
@@foolslayer9416 oh so other words you’d be more happy to let a murder off the hook all because their reason for killing someone was understandable and NOT justified in anyway real,like say they were being attacked first and killed the person attacking out of fear for their lives?
Cragen, Benson, & Cabot didn’t have children of their own, so none of them could possibly understand what Stabler was feeling
Benson has a kid now. So now she feels what he felt
@@Karrambide True
The job is the job, Elliot should know that. If that was too much for him he shouldn't be in the SVU.
@@tia4057 His job was to investigate & arrest rapists & pedophiles. I don’t think solving the murder of one is what he had in mind
@@joewhitehead3 if someone kills a serial killer, the cops still have to investigate. It's called doing your job. That sometimes, more often than not, you have to do something you don't want to do.
Elliot has more patience than me. I would have threw insults at the captain for assigning me the case.
Maturity at its finest.
you missed the part about one police plaza
"Serial Killer", or "Public Hero"?
Why would Cragen say “yes” to taking on the case?
Because it's a TV show and they were the two main characters at that time ffs. Pretty simple concept.
he would be replaced by one police plaza
@@toomanyaccounts By saying “no” to a case that ultimately shoulda gone to homicide?
@@joewhitehead3 it was headquarters that made it a suv case. they have had long term issue with Stabler after a shrink told the commision that stabler had thoughts of killing perps.
@@toomanyaccounts That’s why the case became SVUs? Cus of what Stabler said to the shrink?
I’m sorry but I was staring at Elliots forehead 😭
Whenever I see Eric Roberts I just think of the episode of South Park where they eat Eric Roberts
The ONLY problem with this scenario is that the killer (Eric Roberts), kept hanging around!! That's stupid!!
This feels like a precursor to Criminal Minds.
If I were a cop, I wouldn’t spend much time trying to catch a serial killer who targeted rapists and pedophiles.
Something is not adding up about this,Deandrea Simmons.
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Comments: Elliot shouldn’t have been assigned to this case. Cragen is wrong.
Me: Elliot shouldn’t be a cop/detective. Elliot is wrong and Cragen is wrong.
You guys, I get that no one is capable of complete objectivity but in the case of justice, if you can’t pull yourself together, you need to find other work. Elliot has repetitively proven he is incapable of handling his emotions, and violent cops are not what the world needs.
Violent criminals are okay though? Psssh.
I love Olivia Benson and Elliot stabler
Elliot doesn’t seem to remember telling Olivia in the first episode that they can’t choose the victim. And what that guy did in that one I don’t feel sorry for him. But it’s the job.
He never thought he’d be solving a murder of someone who raped a little girl. That shoulda been homicide’s case
with Elliot, the saying "do as I say not as I do" counts
It's your job as a Police Officer to arrest someone that is guilty for stalking but Detective Stabler refused to do that and he should be insubordination with his unnecessary behavior.
He has a duty to disobey immoral orders.
I would've flipped on Cragen too
Yea I would’ve too
i love this clip because it details that even if the police het the persons guts they are still duty bound to uphold the law no matter who they are or what they did they dont have to like or agree with it but they signed on and thugs have an obligation to uphold thought i imagine in real life he whould have gotten written up or reassigned to a desk job untill he could be evaluated and let back out.
See if I were him and he threatened to write me up for insubordination I would blackmail him with whatever dirt I had on him
Its a shame we try to put heroes in jail
I know it
cragen was a jerk for no reason. he could have at least had some empathy for the position he was putting stabler instead of talking to him like a dog
That's Maroni!
I prefer David Zayes Maroni.
That iMac G4 took me way back
Like everyone keeps saying you are looking for a cop who hates homeless people.
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I have never been a cop
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