It's definitely fitting in that kind of way. I saw the movies and then read the books all in my last year of high school, and half a decade later I see even more to love about it.
Always bugged me that they set up the conflict between Bellatrix and Nevil from almost the very start, and then she starts major beef with Harry after killing his godfather, and then neither Harry or Nevil really see her in the final battle, instead she’s taken out by Molly who narratively has little to nothing to do with Bellatrix. Super unsatisfying end to that arch, honestly think Nevil shoulda gotten to take her out with the sword or something instead of the snake. But my favorite one is the Order of the Phoenix, so what do I know
I also had that problem even with the Deathly Hallows book, at least if not Harry or Neville, make it Ginny or Hermione or a collective effort to show how powerful these girls are together, if all 3 at their most powerful in this series can't take down Bellatrix, I can't take any of them seriously when it comes to a fight.
a couple HP critiques recently have brought up the way motherhood is framed in HP, and now it's hard to unsee the reading of the molly/bellatrix fight as "power of motherhood DESTROYS childless freak!"
I'm down for Molly getting a kill, especially to protect her daughter, but she should've done it on someone else. Bellatrix had personal stakes with other characters, and it didn't get completed
FYI, during the wedding scene in the book, Harry is disguised as one of Ron’s cousins through the use of polyjuice potion. For some reason they left out that very important detail in the movie
Also Harry and Hermione take polyjuice potion when visiting Godric's Hollow at Christmas. There's just a lot of use of polyjuice potion in the 7th book and it works in the that format but it would definitely be too awkward in movie format to be looking at random people much of the time. But yeah, there was other security measures too and they discussed in the book how it was good for their mental health/morale to have at least one night that felt like normal life which is very human imo.
I haven't read the books, so how did he talk to that author and lunas father? Did everyone there just know it was him, did he tell some people or did it just not happen?
Honestly Luna showing back up and saying "sorry I was being tortured by death eaters and I back now, any way what the is lunch" is kinda on point for her character
Man, I find the way Voldemort died in the film very disappointing, because it misses the whole point of showing that, after all the horcruxes had been destroyed, Voldemort was again just a mortal man, like any other, he couldn’t win over death, which was the whole search of his life, in the book his body falls on the ground and there it stays, a corpse like the others who died in the battle, the way it was portrayed in the movie with him withering and fading like dust kinda made him a bigger deal than he actually was. Visually it is nice, but it does miss the point!!
I like his book death, but his movie death shows that because he split his soul so much, he is really just a shell of a man, so when he dies, there is nothing left. He is just gone
His dead body was also the proof that the Wizard World needed that Voldemort was actually dead and not simply reduced like he was the last time he'd fallen, which it kinda looks like is what happened when he got dusted.
I think the film death was just a forced way of referencing Quirrell's in the first one. "Quirrell turned to dust while he was possessed by Voldemort so let's have Voldemort himself do the same" was probably the thinking.
The film death was bad because, after a year of the whole wizarding world being told Harry is a liar, he comes back and is like ‘I killed Voldy’. No one would believe him.
@@Archius9 yeah!! And when he comes back to the great hall everybody is sitting around and chatting and they go like “ huh, so you killed Voldemort, great ! “ you know, and they don’t give a crap about Harry ahahahha
The parts they cut out with lupin in the deathly hallows are the ones that hurt the most for me. Lupin is one of the few characters that Harry fully trusts in the books. He’s constantly going to him for help. So when he shows up at grimmauld place and Harry refuses his help because he thinks that lupin should be with tonks it’s a reallly good moment that shows Harry has grown up from the student that needed his teachers help to a man who can think his own thoughts. It also makes the shell cottage moment when he shows up and asks Harry to be godfather feel like a momentary break from all the doom and gloom in the book. I particularly love the line in the book” it seemed that Harry would be as reckless a godfather to teddy lupin as Sirius black was to Harry”.
I actually think it was best the Grimmauld place part was left out. The whole movie is already really negative. Dont need harry being a dick to lupin (even if it was for good reasons) lol
It always really bugged me how Voldemort disintegrates into ash when he dies. In the books, by the time he gets killed all of his horcruxes have been stripped away and he's basically a normal mortal guy, so he dies like one.
I like your profile pic it Made me laugh lol Also, I dont mind how that happened. Splitting your soul is described as such A heinous sin that When All the little pieces were destroyed, There was nothing Left, only ash.
True. Plus when he dies, it happened with everybody in Hogwards watching, representing a true humiliation for Voldemort, who believed to be the most powerfull wizard of all, basically a god, to the point he tried to make himself immortal, only to be killed as a man.
“Normal” in the sense that he could be finally killed, but he was far from normal. Ripping your soul into tiny bits and pieces for immortality should leave you very much abnormal, regardless of whether or not the artifacts your soul’s fragments inhabit are intact.
For real! The line in the book is literally something like "Tom Riddle's body hit the floor." It was important he died like any random human. I get a movie might feel the need to be visually exciting, and it looks cool, but it's not worth one of the most powerful and important moments in the book.
Order of the Pheonix- When Ginny, Luna and Neville accompanied the main trio to the ministry it felt like a real group of friends on a perilous adventure.
I like order of the Phoenix too because I just can't help but compare these movies to the books because I'm a nerd. And of all these movies, Phoenix is the one that is most 'faithful', as in it excluded important points from the book the least. I really don't like Goblet movie because it excluded too many context-giving scenes to fit showy actions. Compared to that, Phoenix managed to balance both movie specific actions and book specific scenes. And Phoenix is the longest book, so I'm impressed how well they are able to fit everything
At the risk of revealing how much of a nerd I am: In Half Blood Prince, Dumbledore *does* know about the horcruxes. What he and Harry find out with Slughorn's memory is that he intended to make 6 of them. This may be a case of movie pollution though, but I haven't seen the movie in a while so I don't remember. Also, Dumbledore's plan with Harry and Slughorn didn't really need Harry to do good at Potions at all, since Dumbledore knew Slughorn well enough to know he would want to "collect" him regardless of how well he did in class. Slughorn took an interest in Harry because he was famous, not because he was good at Potions.
this is explained in the movie as well Marcus just talks shit a lot of the time, in fact, i had to pause and correct him mentally every few minutes in this video and i have not read the books many times i have seen the movies hundreds though. another example is him complaining about Luna going back to school, she tells the group she plans on going back to school rather than stay in the house because she has nothing in the house and to help the other students.
@@TheDARplaylist Damn. Just watched the movies recently and was wondering if they'd show which death eater that was. Would've been nice if Severus did something a little less drastic there. I get that his true intentions weren't revealed until much later, but looking back on it and knowing what's going on, it seems a bit extreme, all things considered. Looks like it's time to marathon the books again, haha
I associate them more with Lego Harry Potter. I’m not complaining, that game was half of my childhood. I get a wave of nostalgia every time I hear the hogwarts theme.
For me, the most noticeable thing about the last 4 films is just how dimly lit they are. Half blood prince looks like it's night time for the entire film. I don't understand why they do this.
They make it appear dark to match the themes. They just do a really bad job. I think Prisoner of Azkaban did the best job of this. It feels dark without it actually being dark. If that makes sense.
I’m from England, the dialogue is exactly like a British school and how we talk. We’re sarcastic and rude all of the time, it’s how we are, dry humour. I don’t like to admit it but J.K got this down to a tea.
I will say this: in the books, Dumbledore DID know what horcruxes were before he got the memory from Slughorn, he just didn't know how many there were, and he didn't know how much Voldemort knew about it. I think this is the surprise the movie was trying to convey, and it did a sloppy job of it.
Yeah, Dumbledore just wanted to know how many there were - which is in fact a very important piece of information. It never occurred to me that wasn't clear in the movie, but now I realize it wasn't.
@@KeyDash753 Same here I basically just made the same comment. I feel like it’s almost like a blessing and a curse having read the books multiple times because there are so many plot points missing from the movie that I just automatically fill in, but at the same time doing that keeps me from objectively critiquing the movies.
I feel bad for Matthew Lewis because even he thought after reading the books he thought he was gonna have a larger role than what he ended up having. I remember him saying he was especially upset that the St. Mungo’s scene was cut since that’s a huge moment for Neville
Dunno as a non book reader, i always felt Neville like a major, or at the very least iconic, character growing up. Everyone knows who Neville is and i think his primary role is to levitate the screenplay while also make the audience relate to the "loser" character. Neville is just a big stress reliever and we love him for that lol
@@damionmorgan4190 In that scene we are introduced to Neville’s parents who have been petrified by bellatrix lestrange. They are kind of in a catatonic state and it helps to further develop Neville as a character
15:48 this is not JK’s problem, but the adaptations problem. In the book it’s perfectly clear that Dumbledore already knew about Horcruxes and that Vol already made some. (He destroyed the ring over the summer for that very reason). What he didn’t know was how many horcruxes potentially had.
Precisely. At the end of the day, a lot of the plot holes and issues he mentions in these videos as ways to discredit JK or just to seemingly show why he dislikes some movies are either explained or not as gaping in the books compared to the movies.
@@79treefrog to be fair, the reviews are about the movies and not about the books. And on top of that, some of the problems he discusses with the movies are also present in the books
@@aquacyanide Yes but there's a constant bleed between the books and the films in this video, and it's never clear what exactly is being criticised--and any problem is laid at the feet of JK's writing. There's no careful comparison, though the basic point that she failed to plan ahead is fair enough.
@@aquacyanide And that would be a fair point, if he didn't often act like it was the book's fault the movie left something out. I mean he legit says that books 5 and 6 should be added together, since they're so empty. When book 5 is LITERALLY the longest fucking book in the series and 6 is about something entirely different. The books aren't perfect and there's plenty of shit to criticize, plot issues to point out etc. But saying "he couldn't have known about Horcruxes before Harry tells him", when he already has a fucked-up rotten hand from fiddling with the horcrux ring is kind of stupid.
Do yourself a favour: When rewatching the movies take attention how often dumbledore gets interrupted while speaking in front of an audience. Its so damn funny and I just realised it yesterday.
The reason the one death eater fell back after killing Hedwig is because he realized it was the real Harry since he had Hedwig with him, so he went to tell Voldemort.
It was because he used expelliarmus, Lupin tells him its become his 'signature spell' after using it against Voldemort in the graveyard. Thats why hes questioning why Harry used it at all and telling him "the time for disarming is over". Which plays directly into Voldemorts death, because the only spell Harry could have possibly used to win that last duel _was_ explelliarmus, and so being true to himself and his morals is how he wins in the end
33:26 I think the thing that bugged me most about Ron opening the Chamber is that I always figured that speaking Parseltongue was intrinsically magical, not something you just like... learn through immersion or repetition, like any other language. If it's not, then being a Parseltongue shouldn't be such a weird and rare thing - at some point, wouldn't someone have just made, I don't know, a Parseltongue translation dictionary with a pronunciation guide or something?
I think it was a hint toward Ron being more powerful than anyone knows, or having some secret, hidden abilities, but it's presented far, far too late in the series to have payoff anywhere down the line. Maybe if they hinted at it sooner, it would've been a nice payoff for a teased aspect.
I have no trouble imagining Luna just showing up one day at Hogwarts like, “Hi everyone, sorry, I was busy being tortured by Death Eaters, anyway when’s lunch?“ That is 100% in character for her. 😂
for me the fifth book is long pages of depression, unless for some parts here and there in which we find relief and some good things happen, it’s like Harry had this black cloud following him wherever he was going.
That’s the main problem I have with these videos he just blames anything that doesn’t make sense on the movie on JK Rowling because he really personally hates her when it’s not her fault that the movie left out important information but despite that he just blames her like she is the one responsible for these things
@@danielalmeida7382 I mean he does have good reason to dislike JK, but I get what you’re saying. A lot of the characters introduced in OotP are much more fleshed out in the books and so is the relationship between Harry and Ginny. However, he is reviewing the movies specifically not the books, so it makes sense for him to be critical of these parts that are not well developed in the films. And while the movies had a number of different directors and adaptation writers, JK did have a heavy role in film production since she’s so protective of the series creative license.
@@J4ck0fAll_Game5 yeah I get it I understand why he doesn’t like her but in his way to criticize the movie his bias against JK shows and sometimes he blames her in some really weird way, I just fell he has a personal feud with JK or something for him to talk so much about her and much less on the directors who are the main people responsible for the movie
Yeah...this. He can say that the movie has flaws and that's fine. But a lot of his criticisms at JK were answered in the books... Dumbledore totes knew what Horcruxes were he had already destroyed one (nearly killed him). He just needed to know how many.
@@captainhowlerwilson508 There's plenty enough deep criticism on shows and movies as it is, i mean just look at this comment section, a mix of comedic/criticism is far more enjoyable to me
I'm surprised no one has pointed out that the death eater who kills Hedwig doesn't back off cuz "Ha, I killed your bird take that." It's because Harry's reaction to it tells the death eater that he is the real Harry and now Voldemort can come in and do what he has to.
Idk, Goblet of fire will always have a special place in my heart because it was the first Harry Potter book I ever read. I can’t remember why but it blew my mind. So, that movie just hits the right buttons for me. But I gotta say Prisoner Of Azkaban is my favorite movie. It just has the perfect blend of tones from the previous before it starts to overdo it, onward.
Also Prisoner of Azkaban. It is just the best movie from a technical standpoint and I also really like how it nails the transition from harmless kid's story to more serious tone. I also really love Lupin and the story of the Marauders in the books.
Actually, Dumbledore knew that voldemort had horrocruxes since Harry's second year, and in the modified memory he had, Tom Riddle asked about it, so Dumbledore knew, hell, he even knew since book 2 that Harry was a horrocrux, and that voldemort had made more than one, since he had been searching and investigating voldemort for years now, which is how he had the other memories of his kills. What he actually found out in the memory is how many horrocruxes Voldemort had created. He was hoping for 2 or 3 (diary, ring and the one in the cave), excluding Harry, which was accidental, but then he found that they were 6, 2 that were already destroyed, one that he had guess the location, and 3 more, plus Harry. That's why he was shocked. He knew he had little time, and he realized he wouldn't be able to help Harry destroy them all before he died. But what he did want was to at least get one more before he died, so that Harry only had 3 more left, and Harry only needed to find two others, because they knew nagini was one. He also knew, because of the memories he obtained, that it would be something meaningful to Tom, and that it would probably be the hufflepuff Cup or the slytherin locket he found in the cave, but he knew both were horrocruxes now. He also knew the remainder horrocrux must be something from ravenclaw or gryffindor. I don't think Rowling knew from the first book she was going to do horrocruxes, at least when she was writing it, but by the second one, she already knew. Altho I agree that the six film is so filler that it drags the whole story a lot.
yeah I like Marcus but he always gets a lot wrong & it makes it hard to watch when he’ll go on a whole tangent based off of his misunderstanding of something lol
I'd agree that the sixth film is a filler, but, the sixth book is not. I honestly believe that it is the second or even first-best movie in the series. It is the preparation sure, but I think that it fleshes out a lot of meaningful characters such as Snape, Voldemort, Dumbledore(though the seventh book does even more for his character), etc.
I should have commented this on the last video, but I wanted to share my opinion on why Harry doesn't use magic in this series as much as Ron or especially Hermione do. My theory is that Harry, specifically in the earlier movies, uses more physical methods of defense because we tend to fall back on things we are comfortable with in times of crisis or stress. Pre-Hogwarts Harry was probably used to fighting off Dudley and his friends with whatever he could get his hands on (bc he was a small, scrawny kid). When Harry is fighting something like a giant spider off, he's not really thinking about each and every spell he could be casting, he's just gonna use whatever he has to get it off. I know that Hermione was also not raised around magic, but she tends to rely on her intelligence because it's what she's good at, which includes her knowledge and practice of spells. And as mentioned in this video, the older Harry gets, the more he relies on spells and magic because he gets more comfortable with them. Anyways, this is long but that's why I don't really think the argument that Harry should use more magic completely holds up!
That's actually a pretty good argument. But it is kinda funny how in a series about magic and learning to use it the main character doesn't really use magic when he needs it the most.
Yup, this was even a thing in th books for Hermione, who often thought of solutions but forgot she could use magic enact those solutions, which was why Ron was an integral part of the trio as a native wizard. The movies gave a lot of his magic/wizard related roles to Hermione (and Harry as well), as noted by Quinn Curio’s video on Ron.
@@kingcyclops4079 his being the main character is the problem honestly, since the story is told from his perspective, it’s better to have him be more realistic so the reader is able to put themselves into his shoes, it’s easier for a regular person to relate to Harry that way, and making the reader relate to the main character is creative writing rule 1
Idk, I think they would've been cooler if they didn't fly and didn't forget to put on their hoods most of the time, which they're only supposed to remove when they do the kiss thing. The one on the train looked perfect, but later they didn't feel as threatening. I guess they didn't want them to look too much like the Nazguls in Lotr which came out only a few years earlier.
The way they’re described in PoA has always stuck with me too. I’ll never be able to escape “The dementor slowly, lovingly prized Harry’s hands away from his face” just... Hoo man! That’s some stuff!
To be fair, in response to the whole "How did Dumbledore not know about horcruxes in movie 6, but reference them in a flashback in movie 7" thing: This is a course-correction by the filmmakers. In the books, as far back as book 2, it's hinted that Dumbledore knows more than he actually admits when Harry shows him the diary, and again at the end of book 4, Dumbledore reacts strangely when Harry tells him about Voldemort taking his blood, and when Voldemort vaguely references his horcruxes. JK clearly didn't come up with the horcrux idea from the start, but she did start working it in as early as 4 and 5, and soft ret-conned the earlier books.
But the books have this problem too. Dumbledore doesn't know that Voldemort made horcruxes and finds out in book 6, and then in the book 7, we get a flashback where he tells Snape that Harry is a horcrux. Okay, so why is he doing that if the flashback is before he found out?
@@reversalmushroom That's not quite correct. Dumbledore already knew he had made at least a horcrux. What Slughorn's memory caused him to realize was that there was more than one. Also again, at the end of book 4, Voldemort makes explicit references about "having gone farther than any other wizard upon the path that leads to immortality". While I don't think JKR had quite yet nailed down all the details, there is clear evidence that she was planning out at least the idea of multiple horcruxes as early as book 4. What made Slughorn's memory in book 6 important was that it confirmed Dumbledore's existing theory, and confirmed the exact number of horcruxes, which up until then, Dumbledore did not know.
I'm not quite sure but I think in the book Dumbledore and Harry don't immediately go to the cave after they find out about hocruxes. I think there is some time between that where Harry finds out about Snape being the one who crashed into Dumbledore's and Trelawney's meeting.
@@leonwascher6937 Harry asks Dumby if he can come with when Dumby finds another one. The scene where Snape cares for dumby's injured hand is between books 5 and 6 after he visited Gaunt's shack and found and destroyed the ring after putting it on AND figuring out it being another deathly hallow. By the time they went to the cave, they had already disclosed there being seven horcruxes and what they might be.
Scottish, its worse the higher ya go. Honestly I kinda prefer how the dialogue is tinged like that, makes the atmosphere feel less whimsical and more grounded, kinda fits in the sense the story gets bleaker and less "magical" as time goes on
Personally Chamber if Secrets is one of my favourites: I remember how the light of every scene got darker as the narrative drew closer to the Chamber, and then they literally fly back towards the light and end up in Dumbledore’s office where it’s all bright and colourful again 😁 though Prizoner of Azkaban is absolutely my favourite! The worst for me (by a long way) is the Half Blood Prince, though the whole bit from when they get to the cave is pretty awesome! 👌
Moi aussi j'ai adoré la chambre des secrets. J'ai aimé comment ils ont filmé de façon penché la scène dans la chambre. Ca renforçait le côté menaçant de Tom Riddle. Les scènes où Harry trouvait les corps pétrifiés dans les couloirs étaient aussi très bien faites. Le pire film est la coupe de feu pour moi. Il est tristement vide je trouve.
The only reason why I liked Chamber of Secrets as a kid was because I was obsessed with the car. And now that Lego has finally released a screen accurate one, I feel like the obsession was finally quenched. The last thing I was modify the interior.
@@alexeecs she definitely did have some but I wish we had more! I feel like the most of what we got was her showing up and being a great auror in the fifth, she stumbles around depressed & in love in the sixth, and then in the seventh she gets married, pregnant than dies. I wish we would have gotten more out of her because she was a really fun character.
I'm like 90% sure that the sixth movie didnt have Dumbledore learning about horcruxes, but instead learning how MANY Voldemort made, or at least planned to make, and that's why he was able to talk to Snape about Harry being one
Goblet of Fire is probably my favorite movie, because it's the last time we get to enjoy the fun side of Hogwarts and magic before everything becomes gritty, miserable and deadly. And I'm a big fan of tournament arcs, so there's that. I really enjoyed it when I was younger.
@@fcbtv365 Fleur isn't a complex character or dynamic one in the book. Krum is very meh, he's kind of boring and his decision in the World Cup comes off as selfish and egotistical. Hermione(while being annoying with the SPEW stuff) and Dumbledore - that's valid. Cedric is equally as underwritten in the book as he is in the movie. Crouch adds a lot of needless complexity to the story. Even though the movie is kind of meh, the book is very overrated in my opinion, it does have exciting mystery elements but some parts are so poorly executed, it's sometimes frustrating to read.
The worst thing about these movies is that they forget what they are about, magic. The wands just become guns and their are fewer and fewer creative ideas.
The thing that stings most about how mediocre the Half Blood Prince movie is, is how amazing the book is. HBP is a phenomenal book that no other book besides Deathly Hallows even comes close to touching it in my opinion
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The Death Eater that killed Hedwig stopped chasing Harry cuz Harry shouted "No!" after she died, so the Death Eater knew it was the real Harry and went to get Voldemort.
I’d say that the best line in the series is “All hands on deck Granger” from the Half Blood Prince. Cracks me up every time. ua-cam.com/video/0Yv_l_tvZDM/v-deo.html (0:40)
The books have one detail that really makes them better: Harry in the finale talks to Voldemort and explains he died for everybody in Hogwarts, protecting them with as powerful a spell as his mom did him. And the fact he has the allegiance of the elder wand is just the cherry on top.
Honestly, I was happy that the movie left it out because that protection spell sounds like such a cheat code. It was fine when Lily's sacrifice put the spell on Harry, but him putting it on everyone in hogwarts just made me spit my tea when I read it. I think wand allegiance part was enough.
@@saruboss18 something that was established in the first couple books, talked about a lot by the plan maker of the whole story, Albus Dumbledore, is not quite the same as something that is completely random and seems to contradict the early books, as the wand allegiance did. Trust me, both have flaws, I just like setup payoff enough to defend the protection spell. Especially since it does not really change what happens. Voldemort is in a state to be defeated. Harry figuring out a way to stop the dying is in character and at that point I am on board. But everyone has their own standards and lines they draw 💁🏼♂️
As a British person I can confirm that most of us don’t know what they say in love island either, I know this is a Harry Potter video but he mentions it
That was around the time he was going to go into drinking since he starts drinking in half-blood Prince. The reason why was because he discovered if you were drunk, you wouldn’t care about being seen.
Also JK books: So yeah the banks run by a bunch of hooknosed goblins that literally just sit there, count money and control the economy. Edit: OH YEAH, and the super weird subtext of Dobby and the rest being... really happy with being slaves? Like to the point where they act like their only purpose is fucking slavery???????
@@thingy373 it sounds awfully similar to how Jews are often stereotyped :/ (sorry if this sentence is grammatically off, English isn't my first language😭)
After rereading the books multiple times its hard to appreciate this movie because it jams so much romance and badly timed comedic moments. It also takes away a lot of important plot details and backstory on Voldemort.
29:04 The guy kills Hedwig, sees Harry's reaction, know it's the real harry, informs Voldemort who earlier said that he wanted to be the one to kill Harry. He didn't just leave cos he wanted to.
This is also said later in the movie when someone asks "How did Voldemort know it was you" Edit: also in the movie Harry looks back and also wonders why the guy stopped his pursuit.
@@rudrod95_41 yeah just seemed in these two videos it was guy angry at JK who hadn't recently read the books and was shitting on certain plot points for the sake of it
Yeah, and technically in the books wasn't it the fact that Harry used expelliarmus, which was his signature spell? I haven't seen the movies in a long time so I can't remember if movie Harry used expelliarmus against that death eater before he falls back.
My little brother got one of those single LEGO character packs recently and it was Kingsley Shacklebolt, and I know for a fact if his name was something less rad I would not have remembered it
Yeah but it's not Outstanding (so like a B I guess), and it's supposed to be kind of a surprising reveal that Slughorn takes those students (you could imply that he only did that to get Harry in his class but that's neither here nor there). Marcus isn't wrong in that Dumbledore was hinging his plan entirely on Harry's grades/skill in Potions which were only enhanced because Harry happened to grab Snape's textbook entirely by chance.
@@TwoPairSA yeah this was the most valid part for sure even i couldnt find a book loophole thingy to battle him against my favourite series lol. pure chance
@@TwoPairSA Why did it have anything to do with his grades though? It was Harry as a person that Dumbledore knew would intrigue Slughorn (hence him taking Harry to Slughorn's house to convince him to take the job). The book was really an added boon, which has a lot of interesting plot implications (such as felix felicis, and of course who in fact wrote the book)
@@ynthrepic Harry's grades were the only thing that got him into Slughorn's class, _therefore_ allowing him to get Snape's book, _therefore_ giving him the opportunity to impress Slughorn and get the felix felicis/into his secret club, and _eventually_ allowing him to get Slughorn's memory. It all hinges on Harry's grades. I mean you could _maybe_ make the argument that Slughorn was so enamored with Harry that he could've just approached Slughorn outside of class and gotten close with him no class required, but ultimately in the final text/film, everything hinges on Harry getting that Exceeds grade.
It's become a tradition in my family to watch Prisoner of Azkaban on Halloween night. It has all the best characteristics of a fantastic Halloween movie; pumpkins, Ghosts, werewolves, willow trees, etc. It creates the perfect tone for the season!!
If there'd been an Italian character in the book he or she would have probably been called Spaghetti Bolognese. Almost every foreign character in the books has a stereotypical sounding name.
Dumbledore was looking for horcruxes all summer before book/movie 6, that's how he injured his hand, and that was his motivation to recruit Slughorn as a professor, knowing he had given Voldy info on horcruxes... So he definitely knew about them pre-that convo with Harry.
Yeah, the memory treasure hunt was for book equivalent "show not tell" purposes they also cut like 2 or 3 Voldemort flashbacks that fleshed out his character, which was the independent plot line of the 6th book.
@@inshan3st3r I think the reason Dumbledore was so shocked was because he just discovered that Voldemort split his soul into 7 horcruxes, while Harry was just discovering the horcrux thing along with the audience, on top of there being 7.
In the books at least, Dumbledore suspected Voldemort had made several horcruxes since the Chamber of Secrets, and knew for sure at the end of Golbet of Fire. So yeah
i got to see order of the phoenix in the cinema recently and my god the dumbledore/voldemort fight is so amazing when it comes to visuals and sound design. surround sound honestly enhances the fight so much its insane
It's over Umbridge, I have the high ground! You underestimate my high ground! Don't try it! This is outrageous, it's unfair! Take a step down, Minerva! ... I'm sorry master.
I actually laughed out loud watching this scene for the first time because the blocking felt so forced and stagey to me. These are talented actors who can convey all of this without taking steps.
2:21 Your comment on Voldemorts little "blah!" when he's possessing Harry in the fifth movie made me flash back to using the loop feature on my DVD player and replaying that little "bleh" over and over and cracking up.
It always genuinely confused me why Harry and Luna never had a relationship. She’s introduced during a period where Harry is isolated and mistrusted more than ever before, having seen death for the second time and being treated like a madman. These are things that his friends and other love interests don’t really understand. But Luna does. Their conversations in the 5th movie make for some of my favorite interactions he has with the other students and they really could have played that up even further. I’m not saying Harry had to end up with Luna for the rest of the series, but a one year relationship with her would have been far more interesting than the romance we did get for him.
I might be in the minority here but I really like Luna and Harry as friends. I think the characters work better when they’re together but platonically. Sort of like how Ginny and Hermione make those two feel like real people and Hermione less like a caricature. Ginny was at her best when she was just hanging out and not dealing with hammy dialogue. Also Luna doesn’t seem like the relationship type. But I did like them going to the dinner in 6 together
@@kylerohan3841 I think Luna in general works as a platonic very good friend, she just doesn’t seem like a romantic so much as a quirky, defiantly loyal, and unyieldingly *good* friend and person
@@willmungas8964 she’s like that friend you have that you don’t know much about but also entirely know who they are and what they’re all about that you see floating in and out of your life if that makes sensea
"Everybody always snaps at each-other, and everybody just kinda seems pissed off all the time" thats just how British people are source: i am British. i can confirm this.
The Ginny problem is massive - she has like 5 lines in the whole series! She does nothing! Why are we supposed to care about their romance. I would have loved to see Harry and Luna have a relationship - or at least some form of cute chemistry which we then see leads to them being married in the epilogue.
Yes it feels like ginny was just jk struggling to find someone for harry to be with, since she decided to ship hermione with ron. And honestly i don't know why she didn't keep cho around or maybe make luna the love interest like you said. I always liked harry and cho it was very abruptly cut but i guess there was no time for writing romance because the plot was already very complicated.
Yesss! Harry and Luna have so much in common and it really annoys me that they don't pair off at the end. There are honestly fanfics that handle this stuff better than JK does.
@@user-lh7pl2fu9c for real, I've read so many excellent harry potter fanfics that flesh out romance arcs a thousand times better than the actual canon, arcs in which I feel a genuine attachment towards more than I could say the official books do.
While I agree with your point, I see that she does do stuff in the movie, mostly action though. In Phoenix, they're trying to show that she was the strongest witch in Dumbledore's Army. In Prince, she and Harry fights Bellatrix and Fenrrir and put up a decent fight. Ginny was ok as Harry's love interest, but she suffers some serious character underdevelopment in the movies. And that plaid dress and wig in the epilogue is just way too fucking cringy...
Plus the fight with the basilisk in the chamber was probably the single most memorable thing from the movies for me for some reason, prime Harry Potter material
Same, but with other reasoning, i think tom riddle is so cool. If he wasnt voldemort i could imagine him as like a school villian (instead if draco) who is like super smart and handsome and dark, but also kind of as his best friend, because they are so similiar, but also so different. I think their dynamic would be so good if they were at school the same time and just normal students
My biggest issue has been the fact Harry kept saying Cedric was killed by Voldemort but Peter Petigrew killed him... something small but just drove me nuts
I know you commented 4 months ago but this is especially irritating because in the scene CEDRIC COMES OF OF VOLDEMORT'S WAND AS A GHOST THING TO ASK HARRY TO TAKE HIS BODY BACK TO HIS FATHER...but voldemort's wand didn't kill him lmaoo
@@kalesewarfield5536 I think petigrew was actually using voldemort's wand, to be fair. I'd have to go back and check but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
finally someone said it. I. completely agree with you even tho it was basically Voldemort cuz it’s his followers doing his bidding etc but it bugged me sm too
No...Dumbledore was shocked there were so MANY horcruxes. Dumbledore's dying because he found and destroyed just one of them (the ring). Harry nearly died destroying one (the book). Now he learns that to defeat him they have to find and destroy four more, not counting Harry himself. It's a monumental task. Half Blood Prince is my favorite. I love the relaxed pacing.
I love half blood prince a lot too. It feels like the franchise is taking a breath before the last chapter. I really like the dark comedy, mixed with the very grim tone, and I love the stuff with Malfoy and the scene where harry almost kills him. I think I also saw the movie at just the right time, since it was a very angsty teen movie and I was an angsty teen when I saw it. And last thing.. the score is sick.
Half-Blood Prince is my favorite as well. It’s kinda the closest to just a basic year in the life at hogwarts. Obviously there the horcrux stuff and the mystery of who the Half-Blood Prince is, but those elements take a backseat and it’s more slice-of-lifey. If I’m ever in the mood for just a little HP and not a re-read of the series it’s the one I go for.
the book version of half blood price is my favorite but I kinda hate the movie version because whenever I watch it I just see a trimmed down and more cringy version of the book
Half-blood prince is my fave... in book form. But for movie, I prefer the 3rd and 4th film since it has a tighter stand alone story and not just pure setup for the next film.
I also agree about loving the seventh movie, it's been my favorite ever since it came out. I honestly like it even more than the second part. It's just such an amazing character story, yeah they just roam around camping or whatever, but that's exactly what they did in the book, and it was a good book. I think it's easy to like if you read the books, but if you are just watching the movies I'm sure it just feels like it's meandering before getting to the "good stuff".... but it's easily one of the best movies strictly in terms of being an adaptation of the book.
The fact that slughorn told him his darkest secret was based on Lily being his favorite student ever. Dumbledore thought he might be capable of getting the info based on her being his mother.
I can understand how if you want to be offended this would offend you. JK just wanted to have a girl with the initials CC and if you think it is offensive for a Jewish person to have the last name of Goldstein then you should start a change.org petition to if form all of the Jewish people with that last name. Hell, I even know a non-Jew with the last name, is he culturally appropriating? It is also strange how Cposmonaut compares Harry Potter to anime not realizing that anime is filled with messed up English names. But I guess you need to consider a person's skin color before you can fake outrage.
Though it's not my favorite, I do really like The Half Blood Prince. I like how different it is compared to the other films. It's a lot more dialogue and character focused and I really dig it.
@@Sogggysthe reason people don’t like it is because compared to the book it’s such an odd adaptation. The half blood Prince serves as a way to expand on Tom riddles backstory, and also develop Harry’s love story with Ginny. But they fail to do both, and they didn’t even bother with Tom riddles backstory. They gave us one memory out of 3-4 we got in the book and barely gave any info. To have your big villain in the movie franchsie to lose so much characterisation cos the movie makers decided to focus on the romance in half blood Prince is weird. Also I don’t think David Yates is great at writing comedy, so a lot of the comedy in half blood Prince fell flat
This is funny because in an interview Gambon said he didn't know what was going on most of the time he was playing Dumbledore...and this of course fits with the fact that Dumbledore in the movies never gives Harry a solid answer to literally ANYTHING.
Honestly, I like The Order of the Phoenix the most - it's different, the tone is very civil compared to the previous film, Harry's character development is awesome, the death is impactful, the whole Ministry of Magic sequence is very well done, we get new *great* antagonists (Umbridge and Bellatrix) and it just flows very well. Also the dialogues feel natural and okay. It does probably have its flaws but considering the nostalgic value and the great job with the characters its my personal favourite. 5/5
It's my favorite, too (maybe tied with 7 pt 1), which I find funny since the fifth book is my least favorite. They just did such a great job with the movie's pacing and Harry's character development. It was just really solid.
Like you, Goblet of Fire used to be my favorite when I was younger because I felt like it was the most exciting. But as I've gotten older and rewatched these movies a ton of times I think Prisoner of Azkaban is the best. It's the most solidly put together, and the one I find the most interesting now. The ending half hour or so are some of my favorite moments in the entire series.
I would be interested to see what you think of the Pirates Of The Caribbean franchise. I really enjoyed the first three movies atleast, and I wouldn´t consider the 4th a bad "pirates" movie either, so would be interesting to see your opinion.
@@teddydunn9697 Tbh I got fed up with Jack in the fourth movie already, the fifth only executes the death sentence. They should have stopped at the third and maybe do a couple of prequels from the books :/
Everybody being pissed all the time at one another was exactly the tone of the fifth book. I've read it over 20 years ago now so my memory might be a little off, but I distinctly remember how much darker the overall tone was compared to previous chapters. The piling trauma these characters go trough (remember, Harry just witnessed a friend die in front of him on top of all else he's constantly dealing with), plus puberty hitting them hard... I remember being kind of sad and shocked to see characters I've grown to love so much over the course of 4 books now, and who are above all else intensely loyal friends, become this bickering crowd of constantly angry and resentful people. And I love this movie because it exactly hit that tone and made me remember how much my 12 year old self was a little traumatized to go through this phase of the story with my favorite book heroes. And also, when Sirius died, I cried for like a week. But I appreciate a few of your comments on the movie and the series, it definitely suffered from some slow and underdeveloped subplots and storylines.
I think you're just remembering everyone being miserable bc of Uxbridge. But not really at each other. The group really rally to support each other. Ron and hermione do an amazing job supporting Harry while also calling him on him treating them badly. Harry was the main one being awful (with justified reasoninh)
37:20 my biggest nitpick with the final movie is probably the voldemort death scene; in the books he just. falls over. dead. cause in the end he's just a guy. just a fucked up evil human being. in the movie he explodes into shadows or whatever, which i feel takes away from the fact that this wasn't some sort of fantasy monster they were fighting, but an Evil Man.
Probably burn it in secret and have multiple people scatter the ashes in different secret locations. Mostly to stop any of his followers from building a shrine to him and making Voldemort a Martyr Also just in case the death eaters manage to preserve the corpse, take pieces off it and use it in polyjuice potion
Also, the scene as a whole is just better in the books, in my opinion. It's Harry showing that he finally he's the upper hand. That he's not only going to survive, but he's going to defeat Voldemort in that moment. It has so much more impact for me than the laser battle in the movies (not that the movie fight is bad, it just doesn't measure up).
I liked the way that Voldy “molted” away into ashy flakes... it takes into account the fact that he was actually “killed” by his rebounding curse and only held together by his split and flayed soul ... after his first death and unicorn blood drinking, he was not quite just a man any more.
Ginny's usually quite snarky and witty in the books and even at times in the movies. I think it would've played better if she was like that to Harry, putting him in his place sometimes and grounding him. Reminding him, even though he's got a lot going on, he's still just a kid like the rest of them. I think that would've drawn him more to her as she helps him to look around and relate to everyone else instead of being selfish sometimes (as he is often in the books). The way their relationship is shown in the films is so cringey, the dialogue is so awkward and sure teenagers can have awkward moments but it would be much more charming to have made them bounce off of each other.
I think the best alternative would simply not have this romance at all,is poorly developed in the books and movies,just say that,Ron,Hermione and Harry found partners later.
@@lordanonimmo7699 yeah, I always hated ron and hermione’s relationship in the 7th movie, it feels so weird and random. Honestly the only characters who I would willingly ship in the harry potter universe is neville and luna
In the books, Harry has an enchantment on him at the wedding (so that he looked like a Weasley cousin) and the wedding was specifically very secret - from memory, there’s a whole thing devoted to the security measures around the wedding
@@kokuspalm1496 ...I didn’t say it was valid for this purpose? I was just sharing an adaptational difference which makes the films make less sense - one change among many.
Didn't get that from your comment, thought you were one of those people who defend the movies based on information from the books, even though they should work regardless of each other. Glad i was wrong
Aren't the Weasleys pretty fucking wanted at that point too though? (Or at least chased by Death Eaters) So they effectively changed him from the most wanted man in the country into... The second most wanted?
@@jaspervanheycop9722 I think (although it’s been a while and I don’t have the time or inclination to check) it was more to hide him from other people at the wedding so that if they were captured and veritaserumed they wouldn’t be able to say he’d been there? Because the wedding itself was pretty strongly restricted - like there were charms and spells to make sure people were who they said they were, and that they wouldn’t be found or attacked. It was only then when the Minister was killed that the Weasleys were in danger - before that Voldemort and co were only operating in the shadows, I think?
That scene is so beautiful and touching because it's a parallel/call back to the flashback when Sirius says that to James. I really like the subtle lines that the movie adds that the book didn't have.
Wait. Dumbledore knew about the horcruxes before that moment. It wasn’t Harry trying to find out about them it was about Harry finding out about how many of them.
Honestly sounds kinda dumb like what if he just made more later.. you're gonna rely on this one memory what I'd he changes his mind to 10 right after lol I dont get it
I believe Dumbledore guessed he created horcruxes but wasn't sure ( i think he even said this with the example of how weird the Diary was but I'm not sure)
Order of the Phoenix is the one I like the best. It's the one Harry really grows up, takes up the mantle of a teacher, puts up with Dumbledore's bullshit, wants in on all the action, experiences real loss for the first time and a real extended family in all of the people who stand up for him, besides his closest friends and Ron's family. The Umbridge scenes are all gold too! The montage of Nicholas Hooper's Professor Umbridge theme song is probably my most favorite HP sequence.
The video was supposed to be out a week ago but WB was fighting me. Oh well! Enjoy!
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Hell yeah
*Talking about Dumbledore*
“He doesn’t really raise his voice or get mad”
Well of course not
Dumbledore asked calmly
@@JohnGodfrey141 The Wrath of Dumbledore anyone?
Dumbledore asked calmly
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@@leopolddienstknecht7931 seen that
@Hampton Brooks always
"but the movie keeps hopping back and forth between goofiness and depressing shit"
Idk, that was basically life at 16 for me.
I feel that
It's definitely fitting in that kind of way. I saw the movies and then read the books all in my last year of high school, and half a decade later I see even more to love about it.
I feel that
I can relate 🤣 still can get that way sometimes.
thats life now...
I find it really funny how everyone is wearing robes but then in half blood prince Malfoy is just wearing a suit
never thought about that lol
I mean, dude looks good. He also got that bad bleach job resolved.
It’s a little bit sad if you think about it. His family probably wanted him to wear it.
reminds me of "evil" peter parker in Spiderman 3
@@multifandomz8221 now I just want to see Malfoy break out in a musical number.
Always bugged me that they set up the conflict between Bellatrix and Nevil from almost the very start, and then she starts major beef with Harry after killing his godfather, and then neither Harry or Nevil really see her in the final battle, instead she’s taken out by Molly who narratively has little to nothing to do with Bellatrix. Super unsatisfying end to that arch, honestly think Nevil shoulda gotten to take her out with the sword or something instead of the snake. But my favorite one is the Order of the Phoenix, so what do I know
I also had that problem even with the Deathly Hallows book, at least if not Harry or Neville, make it Ginny or Hermione or a collective effort to show how powerful these girls are together, if all 3 at their most powerful in this series can't take down Bellatrix, I can't take any of them seriously when it comes to a fight.
Yeah, I think the way Bellatrix died is one of the probably top 5 biggest mistakes Rowling made in the entire series.
@@kawadashogo8258 but hey at least molly called her a Bitch which makes up for it.
a couple HP critiques recently have brought up the way motherhood is framed in HP, and now it's hard to unsee the reading of the molly/bellatrix fight as "power of motherhood DESTROYS childless freak!"
I'm down for Molly getting a kill, especially to protect her daughter, but she should've done it on someone else. Bellatrix had personal stakes with other characters, and it didn't get completed
FYI, during the wedding scene in the book, Harry is disguised as one of Ron’s cousins through the use of polyjuice potion. For some reason they left out that very important detail in the movie
Also Harry and Hermione take polyjuice potion when visiting Godric's Hollow at Christmas. There's just a lot of use of polyjuice potion in the 7th book and it works in the that format but it would definitely be too awkward in movie format to be looking at random people much of the time. But yeah, there was other security measures too and they discussed in the book how it was good for their mental health/morale to have at least one night that felt like normal life which is very human imo.
CGI costs
@@Mepphy99 theres no cgi cost in just getting a different (probably cheaper) actor
@@trimrimmer or just say that to everyone else, they look different
I haven't read the books, so how did he talk to that author and lunas father? Did everyone there just know it was him, did he tell some people or did it just not happen?
Honestly Luna showing back up and saying "sorry I was being tortured by death eaters and I back now, any way what the is lunch" is kinda on point for her character
If it was any other student it would be weird as hell, but I totally buy that Luna would do that.
Read it in her voice. 10/10 fits
@@TheKrislaf i agree, ONLY luna would that lmao
i had a stroke reading this
but her dad died
Man, I find the way Voldemort died in the film very disappointing, because it misses the whole point of showing that, after all the horcruxes had been destroyed, Voldemort was again just a mortal man, like any other, he couldn’t win over death, which was the whole search of his life, in the book his body falls on the ground and there it stays, a corpse like the others who died in the battle, the way it was portrayed in the movie with him withering and fading like dust kinda made him a bigger deal than he actually was. Visually it is nice, but it does miss the point!!
I like his book death, but his movie death shows that because he split his soul so much, he is really just a shell of a man, so when he dies, there is nothing left. He is just gone
His dead body was also the proof that the Wizard World needed that Voldemort was actually dead and not simply reduced like he was the last time he'd fallen, which it kinda looks like is what happened when he got dusted.
I think the film death was just a forced way of referencing Quirrell's in the first one. "Quirrell turned to dust while he was possessed by Voldemort so let's have Voldemort himself do the same" was probably the thinking.
The film death was bad because, after a year of the whole wizarding world being told Harry is a liar, he comes back and is like ‘I killed Voldy’. No one would believe him.
@@Archius9 yeah!! And when he comes back to the great hall everybody is sitting around and chatting and they go like “ huh, so you killed Voldemort, great ! “ you know, and they don’t give a crap about Harry ahahahha
The parts they cut out with lupin in the deathly hallows are the ones that hurt the most for me. Lupin is one of the few characters that Harry fully trusts in the books. He’s constantly going to him for help. So when he shows up at grimmauld place and Harry refuses his help because he thinks that lupin should be with tonks it’s a reallly good moment that shows Harry has grown up from the student that needed his teachers help to a man who can think his own thoughts. It also makes the shell cottage moment when he shows up and asks Harry to be godfather feel like a momentary break from all the doom and gloom in the book. I particularly love the line in the book” it seemed that Harry would be as reckless a godfather to teddy lupin as Sirius black was to Harry”.
I actually think it was best the Grimmauld place part was left out. The whole movie is already really negative. Dont need harry being a dick to lupin (even if it was for good reasons) lol
It always really bugged me how Voldemort disintegrates into ash when he dies. In the books, by the time he gets killed all of his horcruxes have been stripped away and he's basically a normal mortal guy, so he dies like one.
I like your profile pic it Made me laugh lol
Also, I dont mind how that happened. Splitting your soul is described as such A heinous sin that When All the little pieces were destroyed, There was nothing Left, only ash.
True. Plus when he dies, it happened with everybody in Hogwards watching, representing a true humiliation for Voldemort, who believed to be the most powerfull wizard of all, basically a god, to the point he tried to make himself immortal, only to be killed as a man.
rewatching the movie post infinity war it looks exactly like he got Thanos-snapped
“Normal” in the sense that he could be finally killed, but he was far from normal. Ripping your soul into tiny bits and pieces for immortality should leave you very much abnormal, regardless of whether or not the artifacts your soul’s fragments inhabit are intact.
For real! The line in the book is literally something like "Tom Riddle's body hit the floor." It was important he died like any random human. I get a movie might feel the need to be visually exciting, and it looks cool, but it's not worth one of the most powerful and important moments in the book.
Order of the Pheonix- When Ginny, Luna and Neville accompanied the main trio to the ministry it felt like a real group of friends on a perilous adventure.
I like order of the Phoenix too because I just can't help but compare these movies to the books because I'm a nerd. And of all these movies, Phoenix is the one that is most 'faithful', as in it excluded important points from the book the least.
I really don't like Goblet movie because it excluded too many context-giving scenes to fit showy actions. Compared to that, Phoenix managed to balance both movie specific actions and book specific scenes. And Phoenix is the longest book, so I'm impressed how well they are able to fit everything
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They do seem a hell of a lot more like they have a connection than the characters in Rise of Skywalker did :/
@@IHamilton9320 idk how you brought that into this but ok lol
I agree! I've always loved that part.
At the risk of revealing how much of a nerd I am:
In Half Blood Prince, Dumbledore *does* know about the horcruxes. What he and Harry find out with Slughorn's memory is that he intended to make 6 of them. This may be a case of movie pollution though, but I haven't seen the movie in a while so I don't remember.
Also, Dumbledore's plan with Harry and Slughorn didn't really need Harry to do good at Potions at all, since Dumbledore knew Slughorn well enough to know he would want to "collect" him regardless of how well he did in class. Slughorn took an interest in Harry because he was famous, not because he was good at Potions.
this is explained in the movie as well Marcus just talks shit a lot of the time, in fact, i had to pause and correct him mentally every few minutes in this video and i have not read the books many times i have seen the movies hundreds though.
another example is him complaining about Luna going back to school, she tells the group she plans on going back to school rather than stay in the house because she has nothing in the house and to help the other students.
@@theallinonegamer8482 This youtube reviewers have to criticize and nitpick everything tho. It makes more views to be negative than positive.
Thank you! Looking for this comment. Also, the one that killed hedwig was Severus so the death eaters couldn’t noticed that it was Harry
@@TheDARplaylist Damn. Just watched the movies recently and was wondering if they'd show which death eater that was. Would've been nice if Severus did something a little less drastic there. I get that his true intentions weren't revealed until much later, but looking back on it and knowing what's going on, it seems a bit extreme, all things considered.
Looks like it's time to marathon the books again, haha
Risk? Embrace it :)
The most impressive part of the Harry Potter series, in my opinion, is the sound design. The music and sound effects are iconic.
I love John Williams' score in the early films, but something about the soundtracks in 5,6, and 7.2 are so freaking good.
I associate them more with Lego Harry Potter. I’m not complaining, that game was half of my childhood. I get a wave of nostalgia every time I hear the hogwarts theme.
Prisoner of Azkaban uses completely different (and better) sound effects than those of the other films
Some of the music is gorgeous
You’re named after the bravest man I knew. Harry Potter Jr. I killed Voldemort dude I’m the best.
Thank you The Game Grumps Let's Play of Majora's Mask. I love this joke
Studio C does a funny skit on this that everyone should check out
this is funny 👍🧍
I'm honestly surprised he didn't even bring up the Epilogue. You cringe less on future viewings though.
@@twonerdsandageekproduction3831 great now i have to listen to that whole series again to laugh properly
i'm lucky it's my favorite game
For me, the most noticeable thing about the last 4 films is just how dimly lit they are. Half blood prince looks like it's night time for the entire film. I don't understand why they do this.
They make it appear dark to match the themes. They just do a really bad job. I think Prisoner of Azkaban did the best job of this. It feels dark without it actually being dark. If that makes sense.
Doesn’t bother me
Doesn’t bother me to much
At least it’s thematically appropriate
half blood prince is beige if you know what i mean
It definitely represents the true British weather every single day
I’m from England, the dialogue is exactly like a British school and how we talk. We’re sarcastic and rude all of the time, it’s how we are, dry humour. I don’t like to admit it but J.K got this down to a tea.
Oh god not the u in humo(u)r
@@kevog3142 bro what
I appreciate the "down to a tea" pun
@@middle.of.nowhere5563 That’s how you spell it mate
@@i-sore Haha I didn’t even realise, just how I speak lol
The shot of Ron's dad dramatically beam struggling some death eater with the hardest expression on his face kills me every time and I love it.
I will say this: in the books, Dumbledore DID know what horcruxes were before he got the memory from Slughorn, he just didn't know how many there were, and he didn't know how much Voldemort knew about it. I think this is the surprise the movie was trying to convey, and it did a sloppy job of it.
i also think dumbledore wanted harry to learn how they worked himself, and didnt want harry to sacrifice himself just yet.
Yeah, Dumbledore just wanted to know how many there were - which is in fact a very important piece of information. It never occurred to me that wasn't clear in the movie, but now I realize it wasn't.
@@soodhooku dumble also wanted to know how much slughorn told voldy
@@KeyDash753 Same here I basically just made the same comment. I feel like it’s almost like a blessing and a curse having read the books multiple times because there are so many plot points missing from the movie that I just automatically fill in, but at the same time doing that keeps me from objectively critiquing the movies.
Yo, what up Sean!
I feel bad for Matthew Lewis because even he thought after reading the books he thought he was gonna have a larger role than what he ended up having. I remember him saying he was especially upset that the St. Mungo’s scene was cut since that’s a huge moment for Neville
When I finally read the books in 6th grade, that scene fucked me up. I was baffled that they wouldn’t include it
Dunno as a non book reader, i always felt Neville like a major, or at the very least iconic, character growing up. Everyone knows who Neville is and i think his primary role is to levitate the screenplay while also make the audience relate to the "loser" character. Neville is just a big stress reliever and we love him for that lol
what happened in that scene i’m not a book reader
@@damionmorgan4190 In that scene we are introduced to Neville’s parents who have been petrified by bellatrix lestrange. They are kind of in a catatonic state and it helps to further develop Neville as a character
@@machodgdon thanks 🙏🏽
I would love to see a Cosmonaut series like this on Lord of the Rings.
Same
The Hobbit and LOTR
seeing as Tolkien's birthday is coming up it would only be appropriate:D
id love to see him flame the hobbit films
Yes please
15:48 this is not JK’s problem, but the adaptations problem. In the book it’s perfectly clear that Dumbledore already knew about Horcruxes and that Vol already made some. (He destroyed the ring over the summer for that very reason). What he didn’t know was how many horcruxes potentially had.
Precisely. At the end of the day, a lot of the plot holes and issues he mentions in these videos as ways to discredit JK or just to seemingly show why he dislikes some movies are either explained or not as gaping in the books compared to the movies.
@@79treefrog to be fair, the reviews are about the movies and not about the books. And on top of that, some of the problems he discusses with the movies are also present in the books
@@aquacyanide Yes but there's a constant bleed between the books and the films in this video, and it's never clear what exactly is being criticised--and any problem is laid at the feet of JK's writing. There's no careful comparison, though the basic point that she failed to plan ahead is fair enough.
@@aquacyanide And that would be a fair point, if he didn't often act like it was the book's fault the movie left something out. I mean he legit says that books 5 and 6 should be added together, since they're so empty. When book 5 is LITERALLY the longest fucking book in the series and 6 is about something entirely different.
The books aren't perfect and there's plenty of shit to criticize, plot issues to point out etc. But saying "he couldn't have known about Horcruxes before Harry tells him", when he already has a fucked-up rotten hand from fiddling with the horcrux ring is kind of stupid.
The guy is just hating to keep for no reason shame I like his review but he can’t help having Jk Rowling rent free in his head
The whole “everyone’s rude” thing is just the UK. Trust me, we hate everything over here, even our friends and mentors.
It’s a New York thing too.
@@srank9231 nah it's a whole new level over here in UK
I know, I’ve seen Kingsman. Every character is such an asshole in that movie lol
@@Icerope-km9lu lollll
Loool. I can relate.
Do yourself a favour: When rewatching the movies take attention how often dumbledore gets interrupted while speaking in front of an audience. Its so damn funny and I just realised it yesterday.
Ok, I don't plan to do it in a while, but I remember it was a running joke in Goblet of Fire with Filch and his cannon
@@igorgracchia5788 yup this. first movie the troll, 5. movie umbridge and so on. its entertaining as hell
Also notice how often people clap in this series. So much clapping.
@@Hi-fd4cw Yeah its kinda annoying tbh
i never noticed that if true, but it's not that funny?
“They decide to host a wedding during a time of war.”
Rains of Castamere starts playing.
Draco malfoy: Voldemort sends his regards
*Kills Ron Hermione and Harry*
*Roll credits*
King Harlaus: "lets hold a feast while 3 of our strongholds are being invaded"
"Neville Longbottom. Gods, what a stupid name."
Yes but at least that was a political arranged marriage which was actually an attempt to win the war (which failed spectacularly)
The reason the one death eater fell back after killing Hedwig is because he realized it was the real Harry since he had Hedwig with him, so he went to tell Voldemort.
It was because he used expelliarmus, Lupin tells him its become his 'signature spell' after using it against Voldemort in the graveyard. Thats why hes questioning why Harry used it at all and telling him "the time for disarming is over". Which plays directly into Voldemorts death, because the only spell Harry could have possibly used to win that last duel _was_ explelliarmus, and so being true to himself and his morals is how he wins in the end
In other words, the only reason Harry won is because Volde’s followers are too loyal
@@Lutherstrode17492more like too afraid. Voldemort would have destroyed any follower of his that “stole” the chance to get rid of Harry
33:26
I think the thing that bugged me most about Ron opening the Chamber is that I always figured that speaking Parseltongue was intrinsically magical, not something you just like... learn through immersion or repetition, like any other language. If it's not, then being a Parseltongue shouldn't be such a weird and rare thing - at some point, wouldn't someone have just made, I don't know, a Parseltongue translation dictionary with a pronunciation guide or something?
Lmaoo Parseltongue Duolingo let's goooo
Agree
@@InsertNameHereBoi
If you don't do your lessons on time, the book grabs an AK-47 and hunts you down
Dumbledore can at the very least understand it, and potentially speak it, as shown in hbp house of gaunt chapter.
I think it was a hint toward Ron being more powerful than anyone knows, or having some secret, hidden abilities, but it's presented far, far too late in the series to have payoff anywhere down the line. Maybe if they hinted at it sooner, it would've been a nice payoff for a teased aspect.
I have no trouble imagining Luna just showing up one day at Hogwarts like, “Hi everyone, sorry, I was busy being tortured by Death Eaters, anyway when’s lunch?“ That is 100% in character for her. 😂
And then everyone is wondering why she isn't wearing shoes
Dude, “The Order of the Blood Prince” sounds fucking sick. Lol.
It sounds like a black metal album
@@pedro_rivera99 it really does
Blood for the blood prince skulls for the skull chair
@@Bigtimegamer-dl3dx KHORNE
for me the fifth book is long pages of depression, unless for some parts here and there in which we find relief and some good things happen, it’s like Harry had this black cloud following him wherever he was going.
0:00-Order Of The Phoenix
13:41-Half Blood Prince
24:11-Deathly Hallows: Part 1
31:44-Deathly Hallows: Part
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Dumbledore knew what a horcrux was, he just didn’t know that Voldemort created seven of them. He didn’t know it was possible to create that many.
That’s the main problem I have with these videos he just blames anything that doesn’t make sense on the movie on JK Rowling because he really personally hates her when it’s not her fault that the movie left out important information but despite that he just blames her like she is the one responsible for these things
@@danielalmeida7382 I mean he does have good reason to dislike JK, but I get what you’re saying. A lot of the characters introduced in OotP are much more fleshed out in the books and so is the relationship between Harry and Ginny. However, he is reviewing the movies specifically not the books, so it makes sense for him to be critical of these parts that are not well developed in the films. And while the movies had a number of different directors and adaptation writers, JK did have a heavy role in film production since she’s so protective of the series creative license.
@@J4ck0fAll_Game5 yeah I get it I understand why he doesn’t like her but in his way to criticize the movie his bias against JK shows and sometimes he blames her in some really weird way, I just fell he has a personal feud with JK or something for him to talk so much about her and much less on the directors who are the main people responsible for the movie
Yeah...this. He can say that the movie has flaws and that's fine. But a lot of his criticisms at JK were answered in the books... Dumbledore totes knew what Horcruxes were he had already destroyed one (nearly killed him). He just needed to know how many.
cinemasins may be a fucking idiot but "the books don't fucking matter" definitely applies to these videos
"Dumbledore's whole plan to defeat Voldemort hinges on a shitty student doing well on his homework"
Who is he, Palpatine?
That part lost me. He seems to be hellbent on comedy for his videos than actual deep criticism.
@@captainhowlerwilson508 You may be watching for the wrong reason then my friend!
@Captain Marvel Wilson OP never meant that
@@captainhowlerwilson508 There's plenty enough deep criticism on shows and movies as it is, i mean just look at this comment section, a mix of comedic/criticism is far more enjoyable to me
Are you talking about the guy who sent a man, who sent a man, who sent a shapeshifter, who sent bugs to go kill padme?
'Everyone's just angry with each other and snap at one another all the time'
Yeah welcome to england
Pretty much
I'm surprised no one has pointed out that the death eater who kills Hedwig doesn't back off cuz "Ha, I killed your bird take that." It's because Harry's reaction to it tells the death eater that he is the real Harry and now Voldemort can come in and do what he has to.
Idk, Goblet of fire will always have a special place in my heart because it was the first Harry Potter book I ever read. I can’t remember why but it blew my mind. So, that movie just hits the right buttons for me. But I gotta say Prisoner Of Azkaban is my favorite movie. It just has the perfect blend of tones from the previous before it starts to overdo it, onward.
Prisoner of Azkaban is also my favourite
Also Prisoner of Azkaban. It is just the best movie from a technical standpoint and I also really like how it nails the transition from harmless kid's story to more serious tone. I also really love Lupin and the story of the Marauders in the books.
@@melloncollic while I like prisoner of Azkaban, my favourite is the 5th one. I like a good villain.
Prisoner of Azkaban is my favorite book but honestly my favorite movie is probably number 2 with 3 in second place
For me, order of the Phoenix is the best
Does anyone else think that Nevilles heartfelt speech about his parents in movie 5 is like, one of the best scenes in these movies?
That and his speech in Deathly Hallows pt 2. When they found out Harry was dead. I thought that was also really good.
Yeah its a pretty good scene
Neville is goated in general tho🐐
I don't like the way the rest of the gang treated Neville always dismissing him especially in the goblet of fire
Best scene in the book too. That visit in the hospital broke my heart but made me root for Neville like no other
i still can’t get over Seamus the One Irish Kid who Blows Everything Up
Don't forget how he immediately tried to turn water into alcohol
My boy Seamus training to join IRA
@@matheusvillela9150 UP THE RA
Should’ve been Irish would’ve made a lot more sense.
COME OUT, YOU BLACK AND TANS! COME OUT, AND FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN!
Actually, Dumbledore knew that voldemort had horrocruxes since Harry's second year, and in the modified memory he had, Tom Riddle asked about it, so Dumbledore knew, hell, he even knew since book 2 that Harry was a horrocrux, and that voldemort had made more than one, since he had been searching and investigating voldemort for years now, which is how he had the other memories of his kills. What he actually found out in the memory is how many horrocruxes Voldemort had created. He was hoping for 2 or 3 (diary, ring and the one in the cave), excluding Harry, which was accidental, but then he found that they were 6, 2 that were already destroyed, one that he had guess the location, and 3 more, plus Harry. That's why he was shocked. He knew he had little time, and he realized he wouldn't be able to help Harry destroy them all before he died. But what he did want was to at least get one more before he died, so that Harry only had 3 more left, and Harry only needed to find two others, because they knew nagini was one. He also knew, because of the memories he obtained, that it would be something meaningful to Tom, and that it would probably be the hufflepuff Cup or the slytherin locket he found in the cave, but he knew both were horrocruxes now. He also knew the remainder horrocrux must be something from ravenclaw or gryffindor.
I don't think Rowling knew from the first book she was going to do horrocruxes, at least when she was writing it, but by the second one, she already knew. Altho I agree that the six film is so filler that it drags the whole story a lot.
yeah I like Marcus but he always gets a lot wrong & it makes it hard to watch when he’ll go on a whole tangent based off of his misunderstanding of something lol
Thank you.
I'd agree that the sixth film is a filler, but, the sixth book is not. I honestly believe that it is the second or even first-best movie in the series. It is the preparation sure, but I think that it fleshes out a lot of meaningful characters such as Snape, Voldemort, Dumbledore(though the seventh book does even more for his character), etc.
ain’t reading that bruh
Yeah but unfortunately the dude wants to wave his sjw flag and shit on JK.rowling every chance he gets
I should have commented this on the last video, but I wanted to share my opinion on why Harry doesn't use magic in this series as much as Ron or especially Hermione do. My theory is that Harry, specifically in the earlier movies, uses more physical methods of defense because we tend to fall back on things we are comfortable with in times of crisis or stress. Pre-Hogwarts Harry was probably used to fighting off Dudley and his friends with whatever he could get his hands on (bc he was a small, scrawny kid). When Harry is fighting something like a giant spider off, he's not really thinking about each and every spell he could be casting, he's just gonna use whatever he has to get it off. I know that Hermione was also not raised around magic, but she tends to rely on her intelligence because it's what she's good at, which includes her knowledge and practice of spells. And as mentioned in this video, the older Harry gets, the more he relies on spells and magic because he gets more comfortable with them. Anyways, this is long but that's why I don't really think the argument that Harry should use more magic completely holds up!
That's actually a pretty good argument. But it is kinda funny how in a series about magic and learning to use it the main character doesn't really use magic when he needs it the most.
Yup, this was even a thing in th books for Hermione, who often thought of solutions but forgot she could use magic enact those solutions, which was why Ron was an integral part of the trio as a native wizard. The movies gave a lot of his magic/wizard related roles to Hermione (and Harry as well), as noted by Quinn Curio’s video on Ron.
@@kingcyclops4079 his being the main character is the problem honestly, since the story is told from his perspective, it’s better to have him be more realistic so the reader is able to put themselves into his shoes, it’s easier for a regular person to relate to Harry that way, and making the reader relate to the main character is creative writing rule 1
Even as a British person, we have trouble understanding love island.
Doesn't it depend on the...narrator...and if you understand a scottish accent?
Every single day you have to wake up being British
Damn...
@@stungun0 it’s fun
Can we just get some appreciation how terrifying they made dementors? They made those things a nightmare for me as a kid
Idk, I think they would've been cooler if they didn't fly and didn't forget to put on their hoods most of the time, which they're only supposed to remove when they do the kiss thing. The one on the train looked perfect, but later they didn't feel as threatening. I guess they didn't want them to look too much like the Nazguls in Lotr which came out only a few years earlier.
when the trailer for POA came out and I saw the hand on the train door… maybe one of the most iconic moments ever
The dementors have been my literal sleep paralysis demon before
The way they’re described in PoA has always stuck with me too. I’ll never be able to escape “The dementor slowly, lovingly prized Harry’s hands away from his face” just... Hoo man! That’s some stuff!
The forbidden journey ride at universal Orlando has them in it. Omg that is straight nightmare fuel.
DOBBY WITH THE TIMBS
Your quick edits kill me man
To be fair, in response to the whole "How did Dumbledore not know about horcruxes in movie 6, but reference them in a flashback in movie 7" thing: This is a course-correction by the filmmakers. In the books, as far back as book 2, it's hinted that Dumbledore knows more than he actually admits when Harry shows him the diary, and again at the end of book 4, Dumbledore reacts strangely when Harry tells him about Voldemort taking his blood, and when Voldemort vaguely references his horcruxes. JK clearly didn't come up with the horcrux idea from the start, but she did start working it in as early as 4 and 5, and soft ret-conned the earlier books.
But the books have this problem too. Dumbledore doesn't know that Voldemort made horcruxes and finds out in book 6, and then in the book 7, we get a flashback where he tells Snape that Harry is a horcrux. Okay, so why is he doing that if the flashback is before he found out?
@@reversalmushroom That's not quite correct. Dumbledore already knew he had made at least a horcrux. What Slughorn's memory caused him to realize was that there was more than one. Also again, at the end of book 4, Voldemort makes explicit references about "having gone farther than any other wizard upon the path that leads to immortality". While I don't think JKR had quite yet nailed down all the details, there is clear evidence that she was planning out at least the idea of multiple horcruxes as early as book 4. What made Slughorn's memory in book 6 important was that it confirmed Dumbledore's existing theory, and confirmed the exact number of horcruxes, which up until then, Dumbledore did not know.
I'm not quite sure but I think in the book Dumbledore and Harry don't immediately go to the cave after they find out about hocruxes. I think there is some time between that where Harry finds out about Snape being the one who crashed into Dumbledore's and Trelawney's meeting.
@@leonwascher6937 Harry asks Dumby if he can come with when Dumby finds another one. The scene where Snape cares for dumby's injured hand is between books 5 and 6 after he visited Gaunt's shack and found and destroyed the ring after putting it on AND figuring out it being another deathly hallow. By the time they went to the cave, they had already disclosed there being seven horcruxes and what they might be.
@@alphacore112 You're right. I forgot about that
“Everyone’s rude in the movies , everyone’s pissed off all the time” welcome to Britain
Can confirm
Yeah, am British. I never really noticed it when I watched it. Seemed normal to me
Where the only thing more dreary than the people is the weather
Scottish, its worse the higher ya go. Honestly I kinda prefer how the dialogue is tinged like that, makes the atmosphere feel less whimsical and more grounded, kinda fits in the sense the story gets bleaker and less "magical" as time goes on
Or New England, the New English are even worse
Biggest Problem with every Harry Potter Movie: NO BLAST ENDED SKREWTS
Edit: Thx for the likes, most I’ve ever gotten
And no peeves
biggest problem with this critique video:
NO voldemort laughing nose meme
And no S.P.E.W.
@@PittsburghSonido yes just yes
Thank you!
Personally Chamber if Secrets is one of my favourites: I remember how the light of every scene got darker as the narrative drew closer to the Chamber, and then they literally fly back towards the light and end up in Dumbledore’s office where it’s all bright and colourful again 😁 though Prizoner of Azkaban is absolutely my favourite! The worst for me (by a long way) is the Half Blood Prince, though the whole bit from when they get to the cave is pretty awesome! 👌
Moi aussi j'ai adoré la chambre des secrets. J'ai aimé comment ils ont filmé de façon penché la scène dans la chambre. Ca renforçait le côté menaçant de Tom Riddle. Les scènes où Harry trouvait les corps pétrifiés dans les couloirs étaient aussi très bien faites.
Le pire film est la coupe de feu pour moi. Il est tristement vide je trouve.
The only reason why I liked Chamber of Secrets as a kid was because I was obsessed with the car. And now that Lego has finally released a screen accurate one, I feel like the obsession was finally quenched. The last thing I was modify the interior.
The reason tonks doesn’t seem fleshed out is because she was created purely to give Lupin someone to be in a relationship with.
And the fans to write lemons about.
And to stop fans from shipping Sirius x Remus 😂
And then to die.
I mean she at least had _some_ development in the books
@@alexeecs she definitely did have some but I wish we had more! I feel like the most of what we got was her showing up and being a great auror in the fifth, she stumbles around depressed & in love in the sixth, and then in the seventh she gets married, pregnant than dies. I wish we would have gotten more out of her because she was a really fun character.
Talking about the dumbledore vs voldemort fight: "There's no music and no dialogue, just really cool sound effects"
Voldemort: "NNNYYYYEEHAAAAAAA"
And don't forget: "BLEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAH"
@@GEORGEMEISTERFTW in addition, don’t forget “DHEH!”
Tah
Don't forget the sound he made when he was drowning
I’m really ctfu
I'm like 90% sure that the sixth movie didnt have Dumbledore learning about horcruxes, but instead learning how MANY Voldemort made, or at least planned to make, and that's why he was able to talk to Snape about Harry being one
Exsctly what I was thinking!!! The shock for Dumbledore was how many Horrocruxes Voldemort made.
Exactly
Goblet of Fire is probably my favorite movie, because it's the last time we get to enjoy the fun side of Hogwarts and magic before everything becomes gritty, miserable and deadly. And I'm a big fan of tournament arcs, so there's that. I really enjoyed it when I was younger.
Les personnages ont été massacré dans ce film. Tous : Dumbledore, Hermione, Fleur, Cedric, Krum, Croupton
me too!!! its such a fun movie! Even more than the first.
@@fcbtv365 Fleur isn't a complex character or dynamic one in the book.
Krum is very meh, he's kind of boring and his decision in the World Cup comes off as selfish and egotistical.
Hermione(while being annoying with the SPEW stuff) and Dumbledore - that's valid.
Cedric is equally as underwritten in the book as he is in the movie.
Crouch adds a lot of needless complexity to the story.
Even though the movie is kind of meh, the book is very overrated in my opinion, it does have exciting mystery elements but some parts are so poorly executed, it's sometimes frustrating to read.
The worst thing about these movies is that they forget what they are about, magic. The wands just become guns and their are fewer and fewer creative ideas.
I swear instead of like casting spells and doing cool shit they just start sniping each other like it’s fucking call of duty💀
@@fettywrld4363 I guess it makes sense that the video games for the 7th movie are basically shooters, then.
I guess it would've been too expensive to do some crazy anime level shit for everyone like in Phoenix.
I get it, okay. It's a joke.
"so anyway, I started stupefying!"
- Frank Potter, probably
@@bleedingmasque.6193 i mean maybe but the budgets are already high and it really would have made the movies better
Watching this before WB screws Marcus over.
Already did
They're gonna put some dirt in his eye
@@venkatapattela1046 Gonna cry?
@@whaccoon in which part?
The thing that stings most about how mediocre the Half Blood Prince movie is, is how amazing the book is. HBP is a phenomenal book that no other book besides Deathly Hallows even comes close to touching it in my opinion
yea because if you never read the books HBP is a decent movie but when comparing it to the books it just misses so many major things,
i like game of thrones. I wish harry potter could’ve been written from multiple POVS to better flesh out the world. could be cool
Honestly I find both watching and reading HBP quite boring, but hey that's just my opinion
@@sam-bq7hl
I like Lord of the Rings. I feel like Martin could have developed his world better. could be cool
@@maxteraform how so
I just want to say how much I enjoy your videos. You really have an excellent voice for narration. I listen while at work with the video playing on an extra monitor so I get to glance over every once in awhile. Great great job. You are smart, witty, sarcastic without being a douche. Thank you for helping my day speed up. Also, I really appreciate your clean language, so many things I cannot have playing in the office when clients are in the office. Yay for you!!
“Everyone always seems pissed.” Nah, we’re British.
Haha lol this is soooooo funny haha you should be a comedian haha lol
@@mopthefloorezard4699 Thank you i agree
How dare you say that? I am brittish
And I 100% agree with you
“Foken spazzy bastard”
@@glendarjj3991 I knew you were British coz only our education system would allow someone to spell British with two t's.
The Death Eater that killed Hedwig stopped chasing Harry cuz Harry shouted "No!" after she died, so the Death Eater knew it was the real Harry and went to get Voldemort.
Hegwig coming to defend Harry was also a dead giveaway that it was the real Harry
Wait??? Hedwig is a SHE????
@@sandromercadobustinza6339 no, Hedwig WAS a she
@@7Comic7mischief7 lmao
@@mrbrokenoreo6557 yea that too. I think that actually more so than the yell was the giveaway
"Dumbledore's got style" greatest line in the whole series.
I’d say that the best line in the series is “All hands on deck Granger” from the Half Blood Prince. Cracks me up every time. ua-cam.com/video/0Yv_l_tvZDM/v-deo.html (0:40)
Just wish they actually kept
The part where he actually duels them first and wins
" no need to call me sir, professor"
If you enjoyed this, go check out my Harry Potter video BRAH
The books have one detail that really makes them better: Harry in the finale talks to Voldemort and explains he died for everybody in Hogwarts, protecting them with as powerful a spell as his mom did him. And the fact he has the allegiance of the elder wand is just the cherry on top.
Honestly, I was happy that the movie left it out because that protection spell sounds like such a cheat code. It was fine when Lily's sacrifice put the spell on Harry, but him putting it on everyone in hogwarts just made me spit my tea when I read it.
I think wand allegiance part was enough.
@@saruboss18 something that was established in the first couple books, talked about a lot by the plan maker of the whole story, Albus Dumbledore, is not quite the same as something that is completely random and seems to contradict the early books, as the wand allegiance did. Trust me, both have flaws, I just like setup payoff enough to defend the protection spell. Especially since it does not really change what happens. Voldemort is in a state to be defeated. Harry figuring out a way to stop the dying is in character and at that point I am on board. But everyone has their own standards and lines they draw 💁🏼♂️
As a British person I can confirm that most of us don’t know what they say in love island either, I know this is a Harry Potter video but he mentions it
I dont think the people in love island know what they're saying
I don't like how Harry starts dressing like a middle aged man who lost his job once Order hits.
Right 😭
Fr he dressed best in goblet of fire
That was around the time he was going to go into drinking since he starts drinking in half-blood Prince. The reason why was because he discovered if you were drunk, you wouldn’t care about being seen.
@@earthworm_sallyearthworm_s3013 please explain im so confused lol
@@Ben-xz3bo no poa
JK: I'm very progressive
JK books: My asian friend Chi Chang Cho
Also JK books: So yeah the banks run by a bunch of hooknosed goblins that literally just sit there, count money and control the economy.
Edit: OH YEAH, and the super weird subtext of Dobby and the rest being... really happy with being slaves? Like to the point where they act like their only purpose is fucking slavery???????
@@grimreefer9324 what did rowling mean by this?
The name is literally China McChina-Face
@@grimreefer9324 oh lol i never thought about that
@@thingy373 it sounds awfully similar to how Jews are often stereotyped :/
(sorry if this sentence is grammatically off, English isn't my first language😭)
I will forever love half blood prince, but that's more because I went to watch it in cinema with someone who meant a lot to me
That's nice
half blood prince is one of my favorites, I just really like the sad parts and the funny as hell parts idk lol
Half blood prince was my favorite for a long while. The more rewatches I put into the series, the more I really enjoy order of the phoenix.
After rereading the books multiple times its hard to appreciate this movie because it jams so much romance and badly timed comedic moments. It also takes away a lot of important plot details and backstory on Voldemort.
29:04 The guy kills Hedwig, sees Harry's reaction, know it's the real harry, informs Voldemort who earlier said that he wanted to be the one to kill Harry. He didn't just leave cos he wanted to.
This is also said later in the movie when someone asks "How did Voldemort know it was you"
Edit: also in the movie Harry looks back and also wonders why the guy stopped his pursuit.
A lot of his complaints are explained which annoys me
@@rudrod95_41 yeah just seemed in these two videos it was guy angry at JK who hadn't recently read the books and was shitting on certain plot points for the sake of it
Yeah, and technically in the books wasn't it the fact that Harry used expelliarmus, which was his signature spell? I haven't seen the movies in a long time so I can't remember if movie Harry used expelliarmus against that death eater before he falls back.
@@RealGaIaxy I feel like a quarter of this video was spent ripping on JK.. very annoying
I'll never forget a name like Kingsley Shacklebolt.
The name I'll never forget is Pius Thicknesse. What a fucking madlad name.
@@Beaver_Monday lololol
My little brother got one of those single LEGO character packs recently and it was Kingsley Shacklebolt, and I know for a fact if his name was something less rad I would not have remembered it
quite odd that JK Rowling's one POC character has SHACKLE in their name, makes you wonder if she's made other subtly racist things in the HP universe
@@Killitwithfire29 bit of a reach mate.
One thing: Harry wasn't terrible at potions. In fact, he got an Exceeds Expectations on his Potions O.W.Ls.
Yeah but it's not Outstanding (so like a B I guess), and it's supposed to be kind of a surprising reveal that Slughorn takes those students (you could imply that he only did that to get Harry in his class but that's neither here nor there). Marcus isn't wrong in that Dumbledore was hinging his plan entirely on Harry's grades/skill in Potions which were only enhanced because Harry happened to grab Snape's textbook entirely by chance.
@@TwoPairSA yeah this was the most valid part for sure even i couldnt find a book loophole thingy to battle him against my favourite series lol. pure chance
@@TwoPairSA yep, when you get the double digit score after 5 terms of straight 0s, its exceeds expectations.
@@TwoPairSA Why did it have anything to do with his grades though? It was Harry as a person that Dumbledore knew would intrigue Slughorn (hence him taking Harry to Slughorn's house to convince him to take the job). The book was really an added boon, which has a lot of interesting plot implications (such as felix felicis, and of course who in fact wrote the book)
@@ynthrepic Harry's grades were the only thing that got him into Slughorn's class, _therefore_ allowing him to get Snape's book, _therefore_ giving him the opportunity to impress Slughorn and get the felix felicis/into his secret club, and _eventually_ allowing him to get Slughorn's memory. It all hinges on Harry's grades. I mean you could _maybe_ make the argument that Slughorn was so enamored with Harry that he could've just approached Slughorn outside of class and gotten close with him no class required, but ultimately in the final text/film, everything hinges on Harry getting that Exceeds grade.
It's become a tradition in my family to watch Prisoner of Azkaban on Halloween night. It has all the best characteristics of a fantastic Halloween movie; pumpkins, Ghosts, werewolves, willow trees, etc. It creates the perfect tone for the season!!
Being reminded that Cho Chang exists and saying "OH RIGHT THAT'S HER FUCKING NAME!"
@SleepyFable lol
that's what 5 year old would call an asian char. in his book
If there'd been an Italian character in the book he or she would have probably been called Spaghetti Bolognese. Almost every foreign character in the books has a stereotypical sounding name.
@@Xehanort10 prob something like "giovanni giorgio"
Dumbledore was looking for horcruxes all summer before book/movie 6, that's how he injured his hand, and that was his motivation to recruit Slughorn as a professor, knowing he had given Voldy info on horcruxes... So he definitely knew about them pre-that convo with Harry.
Yeah, the memory treasure hunt was for book equivalent "show not tell" purposes they also cut like 2 or 3 Voldemort flashbacks that fleshed out his character, which was the independent plot line of the 6th book.
@@inshan3st3r I think the reason Dumbledore was so shocked was because he just discovered that Voldemort split his soul into 7 horcruxes, while Harry was just discovering the horcrux thing along with the audience, on top of there being 7.
In the books at least, Dumbledore suspected Voldemort had made several horcruxes since the Chamber of Secrets, and knew for sure at the end of Golbet of Fire. So yeah
“J.K likes words”
Just hearing that I understand completely
i got to see order of the phoenix in the cinema recently and my god the dumbledore/voldemort fight is so amazing when it comes to visuals and sound design. surround sound honestly enhances the fight so much its insane
I don’t know why but you calling Draco “a little stinker” is so funny to me.
Drew Gooden is quaking
It’s the “Butt monkey” that killed me
@@MerlynwestVII yeah that was a comedy left hook that i did not see coming
It's cos it's true XD
I guess he's also a Drew Gooden fan.
Draco, I mean, not Marcus.
"It's over Umbridge! I have the high ground"
"No McGonagall, I have the high ground!"
"No, I have the high ground!"
"No, I do!"
"OKAY, FINE!"
It's over Umbridge, I have the high ground!
You underestimate my high ground!
Don't try it!
This is outrageous, it's unfair!
Take a step down, Minerva!
... I'm sorry master.
"You underestimate my power!"
Only a death eater deals in absolutes, i'll do what i must
I actually laughed out loud watching this scene for the first time because the blocking felt so forced and stagey to me. These are talented actors who can convey all of this without taking steps.
@@Jamieberigan lmao
2:21 Your comment on Voldemorts little "blah!" when he's possessing Harry in the fifth movie made me flash back to using the loop feature on my DVD player and replaying that little "bleh" over and over and cracking up.
Bro I was dyinggg 😭😭
I have watched this probably 10 times. It helps me fall asleep when I wake up and my mind is racing. Thankyou, seriously.
It always genuinely confused me why Harry and Luna never had a relationship. She’s introduced during a period where Harry is isolated and mistrusted more than ever before, having seen death for the second time and being treated like a madman. These are things that his friends and other love interests don’t really understand.
But Luna does. Their conversations in the 5th movie make for some of my favorite interactions he has with the other students and they really could have played that up even further.
I’m not saying Harry had to end up with Luna for the rest of the series, but a one year relationship with her would have been far more interesting than the romance we did get for him.
I might be in the minority here but I really like Luna and Harry as friends. I think the characters work better when they’re together but platonically. Sort of like how Ginny and Hermione make those two feel like real people and Hermione less like a caricature. Ginny was at her best when she was just hanging out and not dealing with hammy dialogue. Also Luna doesn’t seem like the relationship type. But I did like them going to the dinner in 6 together
That's just asking for their relationship to be made worse, since the books and movies both failed in every attempt at romance.
@@joshuashaw2923 that is the worst concept ever
@@kylerohan3841 I think Luna in general works as a platonic very good friend, she just doesn’t seem like a romantic so much as a quirky, defiantly loyal, and unyieldingly *good* friend and person
@@willmungas8964 she’s like that friend you have that you don’t know much about but also entirely know who they are and what they’re all about that you see floating in and out of your life if that makes sensea
"Everybody always snaps at each-other, and everybody just kinda seems pissed off all the time" thats just how British people are
source: i am British. i can confirm this.
Also brit, can confirm
Precisely mates, if they didn't banter like that, if wouldn't be authentic British dialogue .
Especially considering they're teenagers and Brits .
The Ginny problem is massive - she has like 5 lines in the whole series! She does nothing! Why are we supposed to care about their romance. I would have loved to see Harry and Luna have a relationship - or at least some form of cute chemistry which we then see leads to them being married in the epilogue.
Yes it feels like ginny was just jk struggling to find someone for harry to be with, since she decided to ship hermione with ron. And honestly i don't know why she didn't keep cho around or maybe make luna the love interest like you said. I always liked harry and cho it was very abruptly cut but i guess there was no time for writing romance because the plot was already very complicated.
Yesss! Harry and Luna have so much in common and it really annoys me that they don't pair off at the end. There are honestly fanfics that handle this stuff better than JK does.
@@user-lh7pl2fu9c for real, I've read so many excellent harry potter fanfics that flesh out romance arcs a thousand times better than the actual canon, arcs in which I feel a genuine attachment towards more than I could say the official books do.
While I agree with your point, I see that she does do stuff in the movie, mostly action though. In Phoenix, they're trying to show that she was the strongest witch in Dumbledore's Army. In Prince, she and Harry fights Bellatrix and Fenrrir and put up a decent fight. Ginny was ok as Harry's love interest, but she suffers some serious character underdevelopment in the movies. And that plaid dress and wig in the epilogue is just way too fucking cringy...
Book Ginny is so much better. Warner Bros did her dirty.
Dumbledore always knew about the horcruxes. What he learned from Harry was how many there were exactly.
I feel like I’m the only person who really likes Chamber of Secrets, I just like the idea of unlocking a secret location within a massive school
same here
Me too!
Plus the fight with the basilisk in the chamber was probably the single most memorable thing from the movies for me for some reason, prime Harry Potter material
Same, but with other reasoning, i think tom riddle is so cool. If he wasnt voldemort i could imagine him as like a school villian (instead if draco) who is like super smart and handsome and dark, but also kind of as his best friend, because they are so similiar, but also so different. I think their dynamic would be so good if they were at school the same time and just normal students
Some things can be mediocre, but Hey It Is Better than the Sixth Film
My biggest issue has been the fact Harry kept saying Cedric was killed by Voldemort but Peter Petigrew killed him... something small but just drove me nuts
I mean he killed on the orders of voldemort
I know you commented 4 months ago but this is especially irritating because in the scene CEDRIC COMES OF OF VOLDEMORT'S WAND AS A GHOST THING TO ASK HARRY TO TAKE HIS BODY BACK TO HIS FATHER...but voldemort's wand didn't kill him lmaoo
@@kalesewarfield5536 I think petigrew was actually using voldemort's wand, to be fair. I'd have to go back and check but I'm pretty sure that's the case.
@kalese warfield he did use Voldemort’s want, because Peter didn’t have a wand until the last book I don’t know why you made that part up
finally someone said it. I. completely agree with you even tho it was basically Voldemort cuz it’s his followers doing his bidding etc but it bugged me sm too
No...Dumbledore was shocked there were so MANY horcruxes. Dumbledore's dying because he found and destroyed just one of them (the ring). Harry nearly died destroying one (the book). Now he learns that to defeat him they have to find and destroy four more, not counting Harry himself. It's a monumental task. Half Blood Prince is my favorite. I love the relaxed pacing.
I love half blood prince a lot too. It feels like the franchise is taking a breath before the last chapter. I really like the dark comedy, mixed with the very grim tone, and I love the stuff with Malfoy and the scene where harry almost kills him. I think I also saw the movie at just the right time, since it was a very angsty teen movie and I was an angsty teen when I saw it. And last thing.. the score is sick.
Half-Blood Prince is my favorite as well. It’s kinda the closest to just a basic year in the life at hogwarts. Obviously there the horcrux stuff and the mystery of who the Half-Blood Prince is, but those elements take a backseat and it’s more slice-of-lifey. If I’m ever in the mood for just a little HP and not a re-read of the series it’s the one I go for.
Yea cosmonaut Marcus makes a lot of mistakes sometimes but his reviews are always entertaining
the book version of half blood price is my favorite but I kinda hate the movie version because whenever I watch it I just see a trimmed down and more cringy version of the book
Half-blood prince is my fave... in book form. But for movie, I prefer the 3rd and 4th film since it has a tighter stand alone story and not just pure setup for the next film.
I also agree about loving the seventh movie, it's been my favorite ever since it came out. I honestly like it even more than the second part. It's just such an amazing character story, yeah they just roam around camping or whatever, but that's exactly what they did in the book, and it was a good book. I think it's easy to like if you read the books, but if you are just watching the movies I'm sure it just feels like it's meandering before getting to the "good stuff".... but it's easily one of the best movies strictly in terms of being an adaptation of the book.
The fact that slughorn told him his darkest secret was based on Lily being his favorite student ever. Dumbledore thought he might be capable of getting the info based on her being his mother.
And his obsession with "collecting" talented students.
@@SantosAl Yes, it paved the way. But the pivotal moment hinges on Harry telling Slughorn about the prophecy and about his mother's sacrifice.
“That’s right, Harry becomes the leader of ANTIFA” I just lost it
That was his destiny.
Based Harry
@@Odinsday oh yes undoubtedly
harry would never be a soyboy (neither a fascist)
A remark slightly too sympathetic to Antifa; besides their foe Umbridge operates more like a "commissar", if you know what I mean.
Honestly did you expect a better name for Cho when this is the same person who came out with Anthony Goldstein for a Jewish wizard?
*retroactively Jewish
The Irish kid's called Seamus Finnigan so...
@@zeoxyman ...that's ...worse?
I can understand how if you want to be offended this would offend you. JK just wanted to have a girl with the initials CC and if you think it is offensive for a Jewish person to have the last name of Goldstein then you should start a change.org petition to if form all of the Jewish people with that last name. Hell, I even know a non-Jew with the last name, is he culturally appropriating? It is also strange how Cposmonaut compares Harry Potter to anime not realizing that anime is filled with messed up English names. But I guess you need to consider a person's skin color before you can fake outrage.
@@woodchuck003 what the god damn hell are you talking about
Though it's not my favorite, I do really like The Half Blood Prince. I like how different it is compared to the other films. It's a lot more dialogue and character focused and I really dig it.
I felt it was a good movie to have before the finale since it was their last year in school.
I liked that it showed them doing school things
Yea, I had no idea people didn't like it
@@Sogggysthe reason people don’t like it is because compared to the book it’s such an odd adaptation. The half blood Prince serves as a way to expand on Tom riddles backstory, and also develop Harry’s love story with Ginny. But they fail to do both, and they didn’t even bother with Tom riddles backstory. They gave us one memory out of 3-4 we got in the book and barely gave any info. To have your big villain in the movie franchsie to lose so much characterisation cos the movie makers decided to focus on the romance in half blood Prince is weird.
Also I don’t think David Yates is great at writing comedy, so a lot of the comedy in half blood Prince fell flat
This is funny because in an interview Gambon said he didn't know what was going on most of the time he was playing Dumbledore...and this of course fits with the fact that Dumbledore in the movies never gives Harry a solid answer to literally ANYTHING.
Honestly, I like The Order of the Phoenix the most - it's different, the tone is very civil compared to the previous film, Harry's character development is awesome, the death is impactful, the whole Ministry of Magic sequence is very well done, we get new *great* antagonists (Umbridge and Bellatrix) and it just flows very well. Also the dialogues feel natural and okay. It does probably have its flaws but considering the nostalgic value and the great job with the characters its my personal favourite. 5/5
Me too
I love the satire of the educational system but my main issue is that the movies get greyer and more CG so that Hogwarts magic dies out
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 that's just Britain for you. There's a certain dreariness that you only get in this country. It feels like that all winter
@@itsmepogchamp7068 Prisoner of Azkaban portrayed winter without being grey
It's my favorite, too (maybe tied with 7 pt 1), which I find funny since the fifth book is my least favorite. They just did such a great job with the movie's pacing and Harry's character development. It was just really solid.
Malfoy is literally just a grade school bully that peaked at 13
With a father in the KKK
@@TheSuperNats and a brief ferry period in GOF
Not everyone can maintain a strong bully game throughout their entire life. Takes commitment and dedication.
@@AxeKick80 How inspirational ☺
I had one of those. He's doing worse in life than me by a lot. Makes me feel good ngl
Like you, Goblet of Fire used to be my favorite when I was younger because I felt like it was the most exciting. But as I've gotten older and rewatched these movies a ton of times I think Prisoner of Azkaban is the best. It's the most solidly put together, and the one I find the most interesting now. The ending half hour or so are some of my favorite moments in the entire series.
I would be interested to see what you think of the Pirates Of The Caribbean franchise. I really enjoyed the first three movies atleast, and I wouldn´t consider the 4th a bad "pirates" movie either, so would be interesting to see your opinion.
what about the fifth? i haven't seen it yet fearing it would waste my time like the new predator movie or robocop remake
@@teddydunn9697 thx
I think the first one is genuinely really good, and the others are just dumb fantasy pirate fun.
The first 3 are some of my favorite movies of all time
@@teddydunn9697 Tbh I got fed up with Jack in the fourth movie already, the fifth only executes the death sentence. They should have stopped at the third and maybe do a couple of prequels from the books :/
"Everyone always seems pissed off"
Ah yes, teenage hormones and Angst.
And a lot of stress since they’re fighting deadly wizard Nazis
Ah the one threat harry can't beat
Puberty
And British
Yeah, I feel like Marcus definitely hasn’t seen Skins. British teenagers are scary.
“I listen to British people and I think they’re mean or sassy” as a British person I have never been more offended by Somthing I absolutely agree with
As an American who lived in Bristol for a year I really have to wonder where you guys picked up this reputation for sophistication.
@@travishimebaugh8381 it was back in the 18 hundreds ever since we lost our empire we’ve been bitter dick heads
Everybody being pissed all the time at one another was exactly the tone of the fifth book. I've read it over 20 years ago now so my memory might be a little off, but I distinctly remember how much darker the overall tone was compared to previous chapters. The piling trauma these characters go trough (remember, Harry just witnessed a friend die in front of him on top of all else he's constantly dealing with), plus puberty hitting them hard... I remember being kind of sad and shocked to see characters I've grown to love so much over the course of 4 books now, and who are above all else intensely loyal friends, become this bickering crowd of constantly angry and resentful people. And I love this movie because it exactly hit that tone and made me remember how much my 12 year old self was a little traumatized to go through this phase of the story with my favorite book heroes. And also, when Sirius died, I cried for like a week. But I appreciate a few of your comments on the movie and the series, it definitely suffered from some slow and underdeveloped subplots and storylines.
Totalement d'accord. L'adaptation a parfaitement retranscrit l'état psychologie de Harry.
I think you're just remembering everyone being miserable bc of Uxbridge. But not really at each other.
The group really rally to support each other.
Ron and hermione do an amazing job supporting Harry while also calling him on him treating them badly.
Harry was the main one being awful (with justified reasoninh)
37:20 my biggest nitpick with the final movie is probably the voldemort death scene; in the books he just. falls over. dead. cause in the end he's just a guy. just a fucked up evil human being. in the movie he explodes into shadows or whatever, which i feel takes away from the fact that this wasn't some sort of fantasy monster they were fighting, but an Evil Man.
I agree. I like the idea of Hagrid throwing Voldermort in the bins behind hogwarts
Would they bury him or burn his body?
Probably burn it in secret and have multiple people scatter the ashes in different secret locations. Mostly to stop any of his followers from building a shrine to him and making Voldemort a Martyr
Also just in case the death eaters manage to preserve the corpse, take pieces off it and use it in polyjuice potion
Also, the scene as a whole is just better in the books, in my opinion. It's Harry showing that he finally he's the upper hand. That he's not only going to survive, but he's going to defeat Voldemort in that moment. It has so much more impact for me than the laser battle in the movies (not that the movie fight is bad, it just doesn't measure up).
I liked the way that Voldy “molted” away into ashy flakes... it takes into account the fact that he was actually “killed” by his rebounding curse and only held together by his split and flayed soul
... after his first death and unicorn blood drinking, he was not quite just a man any more.
Ginny's usually quite snarky and witty in the books and even at times in the movies. I think it would've played better if she was like that to Harry, putting him in his place sometimes and grounding him. Reminding him, even though he's got a lot going on, he's still just a kid like the rest of them. I think that would've drawn him more to her as she helps him to look around and relate to everyone else instead of being selfish sometimes (as he is often in the books). The way their relationship is shown in the films is so cringey, the dialogue is so awkward and sure teenagers can have awkward moments but it would be much more charming to have made them bounce off of each other.
"I mean, she has got nice skin."
What?
Even better would be more scenes of her being sassy to everyone else while still being shy around Harry.
I think the best alternative would simply not have this romance at all,is poorly developed in the books and movies,just say that,Ron,Hermione and Harry found partners later.
@@lordanonimmo7699 yeah, I always hated ron and hermione’s relationship in the 7th movie, it feels so weird and random. Honestly the only characters who I would willingly ship in the harry potter universe is neville and luna
Harry and ginnie makes no sense because we barely see them interact ever and suddenly they’re kissing? And Ron and Hermione feels a bit forced
In the books Dumbledore has had a long-standing theory between Voldemort and Horcruxes, he just needs Slughorn's memory to confirm it.
In the books, Harry has an enchantment on him at the wedding (so that he looked like a Weasley cousin) and the wedding was specifically very secret - from memory, there’s a whole thing devoted to the security measures around the wedding
Yup but they didn’t say it in the movies, so it’s not valid here
@@kokuspalm1496 ...I didn’t say it was valid for this purpose? I was just sharing an adaptational difference which makes the films make less sense - one change among many.
Didn't get that from your comment, thought you were one of those people who defend the movies based on information from the books, even though they should work regardless of each other. Glad i was wrong
Aren't the Weasleys pretty fucking wanted at that point too though? (Or at least chased by Death Eaters) So they effectively changed him from the most wanted man in the country into... The second most wanted?
@@jaspervanheycop9722 I think (although it’s been a while and I don’t have the time or inclination to check) it was more to hide him from other people at the wedding so that if they were captured and veritaserumed they wouldn’t be able to say he’d been there? Because the wedding itself was pretty strongly restricted - like there were charms and spells to make sure people were who they said they were, and that they wouldn’t be found or attacked. It was only then when the Minister was killed that the Weasleys were in danger - before that Voldemort and co were only operating in the shadows, I think?
I think when Sirius calls Harry by his father's name is a pretty good scene
Yeah, it's by far the best movie only inclusion. It's so damn clever, I wonder who came up with it.
Sirius Black did.
Man, I actually forgot that wasn't in the books.
Jochem van Loon pretty sure Gary Oldman came up with it!!
That scene is so beautiful and touching because it's a parallel/call back to the flashback when Sirius says that to James. I really like the subtle lines that the movie adds that the book didn't have.
Wait. Dumbledore knew about the horcruxes before that moment. It wasn’t Harry trying to find out about them it was about Harry finding out about how many of them.
Honestly sounds kinda dumb like what if he just made more later.. you're gonna rely on this one memory what I'd he changes his mind to 10 right after lol I dont get it
@@ykonratev but seven is a maaagical number!!!
It sounded damn important to Tom to have 7 be the number... If trust him not to make more
I interpreted the scene like this too
It’s the number, they still MURDERED 7 people by the way
I believe Dumbledore guessed he created horcruxes but wasn't sure ( i think he even said this with the example of how weird the Diary was but I'm not sure)
Order of the Phoenix is the one I like the best. It's the one Harry really grows up, takes up the mantle of a teacher, puts up with Dumbledore's bullshit, wants in on all the action, experiences real loss for the first time and a real extended family in all of the people who stand up for him, besides his closest friends and Ron's family. The Umbridge scenes are all gold too! The montage of Nicholas Hooper's Professor Umbridge theme song is probably my most favorite HP sequence.