“Any effort” is better than “no effort” Gordon is my rule of thumb. Someone who’s succeeded in participating in any kind of activity always gets a 👍🏻 from me. Good to see you out again my friend, we’ve got our monthly RRTY 200 this coming Friday and it’s looking like it’s going to be a cracking day. Stay safe 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Each to their own I suppose on when to give a thumbs up but I'm with you, kudos for the encouragement! Like a friendly wave out on the road, which everyone gets from me if I see them! 🙂
I find it even more surprising because with Strava you're choosing who to connect with. Judging 'activity value' for friends and acquaintances strikes me as mean-spirited. I've no desire to go winter-kayaking on Hollingsworth Lake but I'd give a hearty thumbs-up to any cyclists doing it as a cross-training activity.
@clippingin1593 Definitely! The Strava database I'm sure could provide some fun trivia around how mean spirited - or otherwise - people are depending on various demographics, what bike they ride, whether they're from Yorkshire or not! 🤣 Weather tomorrow looks pretty good (if a bit chilly), enjoy if you're heading out!
Excellent video and very funny regards Kudos, I always give it no matter what the exercise is, far better than sat on the sofa. As for Turbo training, I get a real benefit through the winter months on-line with my training partners 💪
Exactly, Andy. I was surprised, especially with Strava where you choose the people you're connected to. You'd think that would make people less judgmental and more generous with the kudos. With the weather we've had so far this year I'll take the turbo every time.
Well done getting out weather has been bad round here in Chesterfield so I too did seven rides on the turbo since New year's day . I definitely do not enjoy the turbo like going out to ride but it was a choice of turbo or nothing . With regards to your comments on Strava I believe any activity is worthy of kudos as some effort has been made, it's a personal choice we all have different opinions .I like you finally got out on my road bike on the 14th of January so it's a start . Keep the videos coming I enjoy your comments, and enjoy your riding .🚴
Cheers, Mike. I lived in Sheffield for quite a few years and there's some cracking cycling country on your doorstep! Let's hope the weather looks kindly on us for a while and we can rack up some nice days out.
Hello Gordon I remember some time since you did a vid on your Prescription lenses for you Jaw Breakers. I am looking to buy some but can't find you video. Can you remind me where you got them from? Many thanks
Hi Colin. I posted a review of the dark lens here : ua-cam.com/video/227Rqtt8O9g/v-deo.html I didn't do one for the clear lens but they've both been superb. Eighteen months on and worth every penny. I bought them online from Extreme Eyewear, York.
Spot on as usual Gordon - for me, kudos is about positivity, encouragement, and usually, friendship. It should never be about judgement, surely? Each to their own, be it a lovely walk, an indoor session, or a good old ride out on the road.... Great to see you out again 👍💥
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the 'judges' are not even on Strava and were just jumping in to have a moan about indoor cycling. Leave them to it, and we can get on with enjoying the cycling. Hopefully that's the end of the winter conditions for a little while and I can start rolling out the Gios again. Cheers, John.
0:20 There will be no kudos for me for a while. Recovering from a groin hernia operation. Middle of March before I'm allowed back on the bike. So it great to see your videos to see what I'm missing. Keep them coming, Gordon.
Oooh, I hope that follows the schedule and you're back in time for spring, Paul. Hopefully there'll be a break from the winter conditions for a while and I can start heading out for longer rides again.
Love your Videos Gordon, This one I can relate to a lot, I don't broadcast most of my rides, as sometimes people can comment strange silly things , I tend to keep it on private settings now, Which has worked well all in all As you mentioned, anything is better than being an couch potato. Love your positivity, which is so refreshing, plus your local knowledge . Keep up these brilliant videos 👍 Looking forward to the next one !!!
Cheers, Terry. I've only had positive experiences on Strava but I've read lots of accounts of social media one-upmanship discouraging runners and riders, to the extent where people have felt demoralised. It's sad when elitism serves to fragment an already niche and put-upon pastime.
Kudos for getting out Gordon.😃Using the turbo for a 2 hour zone 2 deserves serious Kudos to my mind. It is not easy to sit in a fixed position for a long time. I think, perhaps some folk are driven by massive egos and expect every ride to be full gas, and outdoors! I tend to not publish my indoor rides to feeds but they're in my profile and count to time in the saddle. Happy new year.
Thanks, Andrew. It seems that people use and interact with social media in different ways and have very different expectations. Perhaps it results from a strange mix of enthusiasts, semi-professionals, and media organisations posting into the same streams. Following World Tour pros or septuagenarian potterers and seeing their activities side-by-side is strange in itself. I hark back to the idea of it being a pseudo-club where you applaud people equally for doing 500 sit-ups, an hour Z2, or a snowy tour of Saddleworth.
Yey, finally the snow is clearing off and you"re back out on the bike (actually wish i hadnt given kudos for that now because im jealous 😂). Bet it felt great to be back out in the fresh air. If anything, an hour on the turbo deserves more kudos, its harder work and there's no cafe stop as an incentive to keep going 🙂.
Haha - the old kudos retraction. I'm sure it happens accidentally, Claire! I saw a photo of Upper Shibden vale on Strava from earlier today and there was still a lot more snow than around Clifton, but with these temperatures it should be all clear soon. It was great to be out again and the little Hartshead circuit felt like the 'big country' after a fortnight on the turbo.
There is so much snobbery in cycling, clothing, indoor riding, length of ride, average power or even those riding e bikes. A post I saw recently was from someone who was claiming that indoor riding and e bike riding wouldn’t raise fitness. I think my answer was. Only in your dreams. Good to see you out Gordon and here is to many rides in 2025 in those beautiful Yorkshire hills.
What a mindset, Neil. I think cycling, even more than running, has a strange relationship with suffering for its own sake. It must be nearly 30 years ago that Chris Boardman and his coach made the distinction between 'athletic endurance' and 'commando endurance' - probably in response to criticism of CB's training regime of turbo, inclined bike-treadmill, and track. There are so many pros living in hilly areas using e-bikes to stay in Zones 1 & 2 on their easier days. Hopefully we've seen the last of the winter weather for a while and I'll be able to strike out into the dales for my weekend rides.
Glad to see you back on the roads gordon ive not been out since boxing day but ive had a few sessions at the gym on a spin bike (watt bike)which are very good i do find it a bit boring but it is good training they do get you dripping with sweat ,i find personally that kudos given or received is more about giving encouragement so be it one click or 20 it helps you to get in the saddle especially if you cycle on your own which i do 90 per cent of the time would we prefer to go back to the cycling of yesteryear with none of the mod cons
Those Watt bikes have a solid reputation - I know a few cyclists with them at home and they swear by them. With the weather we've had for the last fortnight they look like the best option and even when the conditions improve they're extremely time-efficient. When my dad was racing in the 50s they didn't have indoor resistance trainers - only rollers - so they'd have to go outside more often but I'd bet traffic levels were around 10% of what we see today! Hopefully the milder conditions will stick around for a while and we can cash in with a few decent outdoor rides.
Haha - exactly! I see it as part of the jigsaw, just like core strength or flexibility work. It all helps to make us fitter and stronger, better able to enjoy the big days out when the opportunities arise.
Totally agree, I only have a few followers on Strava but we give kudos to each other for any activity, as you say, all takes effort and deserves acknowledging in my opinion. Kudos to you Gordon.
I was introduced to Strava by a couple of clubmates in late 2012 when I was coming back from my broken hip and I found the mutual encouragement to be really valuable. As I regained fitness in 2013 I chased KoMs for a while and enjoyed that side of things but the 'online club' aspect remained. I never realised people made value judgements on the grounds of indoor/outdoor, fast/slow, or even cycling/non-cycling with riders they've chosen to connect with. Cheers, Ralphster.
Great video Gordon. Yes I agree on everything you said. Hopefully I'm going to get out this week for the first time in months..took ages to get shut of the virus.
These are 27.5" x 1.5" and although they're slow & heavy, I find them to be incredibly durable and versatile. I even used them for the Wakefield Wheel last April where they had to cope with all kinds of rough stuff. About a week ago I spotted the Schwalbe Marathon Winter which is a fully studded ice-tyre. Around £100/pr for this wheelset, but I might invest if extended spells of snow/ice are on the cards.
Well said. People shouldn't automatically think that people are fit and healthy. I suffer from M. E. so depending on how I feel will make me judge whether I'll try and go out on my bike or inside on the turbo trainer or if I'm too bad because I feel so unwell I can't get out of bed. Don't judge other people and think they are well. Keep up the good work 🚴🚴🚴
We know that some people make snap judgements but in a Strava setting, where you choose who to connect with, it struck me as remarkably ungenerous. I think giving someone a virtual 'shout' for an activity is just basic good sporting manners. When I broke my hip in 2010 I was immobile for months but when I finally climbed onto the turbo (standing on a plastic step so that I could get onto the saddle) and logged my first 5 minutes in bottom gear, it felt like I'd won the Olympics. Yet to an outsider, unaware of context, that was 5 minutes of rubbish pedalling. Cheers, Gerard.
Wow! The weather app was predicting fog & drizzle for us too, but for the most part it was watery sunshine. Dirty roads with the mixture of snow-melt and grit, but it was nice to be able to take in the views. I hope it lifts for you, Anne.
Kudos for sofa surfing? I think you may be underestimating the will power needed to grid through nearly 10 minutes of some youtubers... How many miles per hours should I be let off for when on my £270 Bossnut then?
Strava will add it to their activity list, probably with a monthly viewing target - it's only a matter of time. Once you swing to a summer bike you'll be flying!
I don't put my indoor training on strava as I look at it as not real cycling which leads to me not giving kudos for indoor cycling. I think I need to rethink my attitude after listening to you Gordon.
Cheers, Steve. I started on Strava in 2012 when it was still quite 'niche' but during my time-out it's blown-up into industry standard, and in that time it's assumed the role of training/activity diary where people log just about everything. It would be interesting to know how many people still have a paper-based training diary nowadays - maybe I'll ask that question in the next video? I see indoor cycling as part of the jigsaw - in the same way as core training, flexibility sessions, free-weights - they all contribute towards health, well-being, enthusiasm, and can make the main course of outdoor cycling more comfortable.
I want minus kudos points from them due to my Dutch style upright riding position. The more minus points the better. I think it's meant be fun with a bit of mental and physical health benefits thrown in.
I rode a Belgian utility bike when I worked in Leuven - an immensely practical machine (trouser guard and all) with great visibility in the upright position. I'm sure that would normally have scored negative kudos points but there were thousands of other people riding them in the city!
I got plenty of kudos last night, averaging 25.2 mph for an hour at 66 at threshold, on Tempus Fugit and beating hundreds of other riders decades younger than me, I think that was an achievement ?
Unusual for you this video. You spent most of it discussing one topic, and one that had nothing to do with the scenery, history, geology, geography, places of interest etc, which your videos usual do deal with. I still enjoyed it though!
After the weather of the past fortnight when almost every cyclist I'm connected to has leaned on indoor trainers or other activities, I was surprised to read about the puritanical attitude towards encouragement on Strava. UA-cam is a different environment and I've grown to expect a cluster of downvotes on most videos - although this one is heading towards a record in that regard! Strava, however, is 'pre-selected' - you only see activities in your feed from people you've chosen to connect with - so the kudos judgement struck me as odd and worth mentioning on a local ride. If I survive the avalanche of disapproval then I'll be back with the usual format towards the end of the week.
It is interesting to watch you riding through Hartshead, Roberttown, Brighouse, wherever, but I wouldn't watch you on a turbo or weightlifting, Gordon. Neither do I have a car, but, unlike you, I do record my shopping rides, which are up to 25 or so miles, ridden hard with panniers fully laden for the return trip. There is also the sensuous experience of being out and about in most conditions, which I thought you were an advocate of.
The channel's over two years old and I've yet to post an indoor training video, so I think we're safe, Harvey. The only indoor videos are of a 'technical nature' where it makes sense to sit at a desk - cranks, carbs, reviews. My point in this video was about Strava rather than UA-cam and I found it odd that some people are so selective with gestures of encouragement towards those they've opted to connect with. If someone is posting weight-training, yoga, or stair-climbing to Strava then I think that's commendable. I wouldn't want to watch it, and I wouldn't want to do half of those things, but I think it's great that people are getting stuck in, especially when many of those activities can make them stronger, more flexible cyclists for the big days out in spring, summer, autumn.
Yes. kudos batter then no effort. Like my strav Fran's . indoor riding is 24Hrs world wide for all . ( All the professionals use this in training programs do people give them a kudos as we'll ) as for me don't have in door trainer i have to do it all out side rides. Wet or dry but when i get back. You feeling Gratt with your health
The same people who turn their nose up at indoor cyclists would (I think) no doubt jump on an indoor bike if an injury prevented them from riding outside.
I have a hunch that the selective-kudos people aren't even on Strava and they'd just jumped on a thread to express their anti-turbo sentiments. For me, the turbo made perfect sense with the recent weather and road conditions, but there are plenty of other times when an indoor bike is a really useful arrow in the quiver. Back in my racing days when I wanted to train uninterrupted at a specific pace on the aerobars it was far and away the best option, especially on a dark workday evening with limited spare time.
@@DarrenWalsh-df8ew I've said before that I saw my dad losing strength & power at a frightening rate from his mid-70s. Cogs getting bigger, rides getting flatter, slower & shorter, and he packed up at 80, but if today's e-bikes had been around in 2010 then I'm sure he'd have enjoyed a few more years in the saddle climbing his beloved hills. I wouldn't buy one now but in a few years I might be glad of one. If people are using them to pinch uphill Strava KoMs then it's wrong, but as an assist for age/health/injury then I think they're good
It's odd that they choose to connect to other riders on a platform like Strava then become wrapped up in judging the value of activities. Leave them to it, and enjoy your cycling, Kieran.
@clippingin1593 I chose Ebikes.for a couple of health issues 68 this year managed just over 7k miles last year all out side . Ebikes don't work great on a turbo.
@@kieranmccarragher3560 Great stuff. I wish today's e-bikes had been around in 2010 when my dad was pushing 80 and really struggling on the hills. He eventually packed up because of it.
@clippingin1593lots of negativity I see in the UK around e bikes following the BBC documentary (if that’s what you call it). Isn’t it bizarre how new technologies disrupt that slothful paradigms of society.
Your Strava account is yours and not ruled by someone else opinions on activities. If you want to track *your* fitness even if it's walking your dog, you go do it. I'd give it a like (and I do) 👍
Spot-on, David. They're the modern take on an activity/training diary. I find it strange that with a platform like Strava, where these people choose their connections, they're not more generous and encouraging. My Strava experience is very positive so I was surprised when I read that road cc article. I was looking for a 'snow-shovelling' category last week. Talk about core training!
@clippingin1593 Ye gods i've had to track anything out of a chair through this snowy period to keep the relative fitness from dropping - several snow dig sessions - even the neighbours 😂
@@davidowen9770 I read that Fausto Coppi's coach used to have his riders dredging the local rivers over the winter. Months of shovelling, and carrying buckets.... they never suffered back-ache in the long races again.
“Any effort” is better than “no effort” Gordon is my rule of thumb. Someone who’s succeeded in participating in any kind of activity always gets a 👍🏻 from me.
Good to see you out again my friend, we’ve got our monthly RRTY 200 this coming Friday and it’s looking like it’s going to be a cracking day. Stay safe 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That's a good distance for January, Mick. The weather forecast looks decent for the best part of a week so you should be set for a good one on Friday.
Bravo 👍🚴
Cheers, Terry.
Agree. Kudos!
Thanks, Jim. There are more similarities than differences.
Each to their own I suppose on when to give a thumbs up but I'm with you, kudos for the encouragement! Like a friendly wave out on the road, which everyone gets from me if I see them! 🙂
I find it even more surprising because with Strava you're choosing who to connect with. Judging 'activity value' for friends and acquaintances strikes me as mean-spirited. I've no desire to go winter-kayaking on Hollingsworth Lake but I'd give a hearty thumbs-up to any cyclists doing it as a cross-training activity.
@clippingin1593 Definitely! The Strava database I'm sure could provide some fun trivia around how mean spirited - or otherwise - people are depending on various demographics, what bike they ride, whether they're from Yorkshire or not! 🤣 Weather tomorrow looks pretty good (if a bit chilly), enjoy if you're heading out!
Excellent video and very funny regards Kudos, I always give it no matter what the exercise is, far better than sat on the sofa.
As for Turbo training, I get a real benefit through the winter months on-line with my training partners 💪
Exactly, Andy. I was surprised, especially with Strava where you choose the people you're connected to. You'd think that would make people less judgmental and more generous with the kudos.
With the weather we've had so far this year I'll take the turbo every time.
I find it impossible to get on the home trainer whilst its buried under a pile of Quality Street wrappers! ;-)
You're right to prioritise carbo-loading. True dedication.
At least if you do you wont bonk 😂
Well done getting out weather has been bad round here in Chesterfield so I too did seven rides on the turbo since New year's day . I definitely do not enjoy the turbo like going out to ride but it was a choice of turbo or nothing . With regards to your comments on Strava I believe any activity is worthy of kudos as some effort has been made, it's a personal choice we all have different opinions .I like you finally got out on my road bike on the 14th of January so it's a start . Keep the videos coming I enjoy your comments, and enjoy your riding .🚴
Cheers, Mike. I lived in Sheffield for quite a few years and there's some cracking cycling country on your doorstep! Let's hope the weather looks kindly on us for a while and we can rack up some nice days out.
Hello Gordon
I remember some time since you did a vid on your Prescription lenses for you Jaw Breakers. I am looking to buy some but can't find you video. Can you remind me where you got them from?
Many thanks
Hi Colin. I posted a review of the dark lens here : ua-cam.com/video/227Rqtt8O9g/v-deo.html
I didn't do one for the clear lens but they've both been superb. Eighteen months on and worth every penny. I bought them online from Extreme Eyewear, York.
@clippingin1593 Many thanks
I will get in touch with them to see if they can help me
C
Spot on as usual Gordon - for me, kudos is about positivity, encouragement, and usually, friendship. It should never be about judgement, surely? Each to their own, be it a lovely walk, an indoor session, or a good old ride out on the road.... Great to see you out again 👍💥
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the 'judges' are not even on Strava and were just jumping in to have a moan about indoor cycling. Leave them to it, and we can get on with enjoying the cycling.
Hopefully that's the end of the winter conditions for a little while and I can start rolling out the Gios again.
Cheers, John.
Happy New year pal hope to see you around I will buy you a coffee
Cheers, Martin. Hopefully the weather will be a little kinder over the next few weeks.
If you spot me outside then give me a shout.
0:20 There will be no kudos for me for a while. Recovering from a groin hernia operation. Middle of March before I'm allowed back on the bike. So it great to see your videos to see what I'm missing. Keep them coming, Gordon.
Oooh, I hope that follows the schedule and you're back in time for spring, Paul.
Hopefully there'll be a break from the winter conditions for a while and I can start heading out for longer rides again.
Love your Videos Gordon,
This one I can relate to a lot,
I don't broadcast most of my rides, as sometimes people can comment strange silly things
, I tend to keep it on private settings now,
Which has worked well all in all
As you mentioned, anything is better than being an couch potato.
Love your positivity, which is so refreshing, plus your local knowledge .
Keep up these brilliant videos 👍
Looking forward to the next one !!!
Cheers, Terry. I've only had positive experiences on Strava but I've read lots of accounts of social media one-upmanship discouraging runners and riders, to the extent where people have felt demoralised. It's sad when elitism serves to fragment an already niche and put-upon pastime.
Kudos for getting out Gordon.😃Using the turbo for a 2 hour zone 2 deserves serious Kudos to my mind. It is not easy to sit in a fixed position for a long time. I think, perhaps some folk are driven by massive egos and expect every ride to be full gas, and outdoors! I tend to not publish my indoor rides to feeds but they're in my profile and count to time in the saddle. Happy new year.
Thanks, Andrew. It seems that people use and interact with social media in different ways and have very different expectations. Perhaps it results from a strange mix of enthusiasts, semi-professionals, and media organisations posting into the same streams. Following World Tour pros or septuagenarian potterers and seeing their activities side-by-side is strange in itself.
I hark back to the idea of it being a pseudo-club where you applaud people equally for doing 500 sit-ups, an hour Z2, or a snowy tour of Saddleworth.
Well done and kudos to you I’m just off on my turbo 😂
Haha... nice. Cheers. Andrew.
Yey, finally the snow is clearing off and you"re back out on the bike (actually wish i hadnt given kudos for that now because im jealous 😂).
Bet it felt great to be back out in the fresh air. If anything, an hour on the turbo deserves more kudos, its harder work and there's no cafe stop as an incentive to keep going 🙂.
Haha - the old kudos retraction. I'm sure it happens accidentally, Claire!
I saw a photo of Upper Shibden vale on Strava from earlier today and there was still a lot more snow than around Clifton, but with these temperatures it should be all clear soon.
It was great to be out again and the little Hartshead circuit felt like the 'big country' after a fortnight on the turbo.
There is so much snobbery in cycling, clothing, indoor riding, length of ride, average power or even those riding e bikes. A post I saw recently was from someone who was claiming that indoor riding and e bike riding wouldn’t raise fitness. I think my answer was. Only in your dreams.
Good to see you out Gordon and here is to many rides in 2025 in those beautiful Yorkshire hills.
What a mindset, Neil. I think cycling, even more than running, has a strange relationship with suffering for its own sake.
It must be nearly 30 years ago that Chris Boardman and his coach made the distinction between 'athletic endurance' and 'commando endurance' - probably in response to criticism of CB's training regime of turbo, inclined bike-treadmill, and track.
There are so many pros living in hilly areas using e-bikes to stay in Zones 1 & 2 on their easier days.
Hopefully we've seen the last of the winter weather for a while and I'll be able to strike out into the dales for my weekend rides.
Glad to see you back on the roads gordon ive not been out since boxing day but ive had a few sessions at the gym on a spin bike (watt bike)which are very good i do find it a bit boring but it is good training they do get you dripping with sweat ,i find personally that kudos given or received is more about giving encouragement so be it one click or 20 it helps you to get in the saddle especially if you cycle on your own which i do 90 per cent of the time would we prefer to go back to the cycling of yesteryear with none of the mod cons
Those Watt bikes have a solid reputation - I know a few cyclists with them at home and they swear by them.
With the weather we've had for the last fortnight they look like the best option and even when the conditions improve they're extremely time-efficient. When my dad was racing in the 50s they didn't have indoor resistance trainers - only rollers - so they'd have to go outside more often but I'd bet traffic levels were around 10% of what we see today!
Hopefully the milder conditions will stick around for a while and we can cash in with a few decent outdoor rides.
I can only ride outdoors, as I can't have an indoor setup - I'd love one...to get fitter...to do more riding outdoors!
Haha - exactly! I see it as part of the jigsaw, just like core strength or flexibility work. It all helps to make us fitter and stronger, better able to enjoy the big days out when the opportunities arise.
Totally agree, I only have a few followers on Strava but we give kudos to each other for any activity, as you say, all takes effort and deserves acknowledging in my opinion. Kudos to you Gordon.
I was introduced to Strava by a couple of clubmates in late 2012 when I was coming back from my broken hip and I found the mutual encouragement to be really valuable. As I regained fitness in 2013 I chased KoMs for a while and enjoyed that side of things but the 'online club' aspect remained.
I never realised people made value judgements on the grounds of indoor/outdoor, fast/slow, or even cycling/non-cycling with riders they've chosen to connect with. Cheers, Ralphster.
Made me laugh this one on the kudos topic , going to start recording my shopping trips 😂
Excellent! Earn double kudos points when you present a loyalty card.
Great video Gordon. Yes I agree on everything you said. Hopefully I'm going to get out this week for the first time in months..took ages to get shut of the virus.
That's rough, Matt. It must be getting up for 2 months. Just take it steady when you restart and ease your way in again.
Well done for getting out. Those Schwalbe’s are good choice for winter roads.
These are 27.5" x 1.5" and although they're slow & heavy, I find them to be incredibly durable and versatile. I even used them for the Wakefield Wheel last April where they had to cope with all kinds of rough stuff.
About a week ago I spotted the Schwalbe Marathon Winter which is a fully studded ice-tyre.
Around £100/pr for this wheelset, but I might invest if extended spells of snow/ice are on the cards.
Well said. People shouldn't automatically think that people are fit and healthy. I suffer from M. E. so depending on how I feel will make me judge whether I'll try and go out on my bike or inside on the turbo trainer or if I'm too bad because I feel so unwell I can't get out of bed. Don't judge other people and think they are well. Keep up the good work 🚴🚴🚴
We know that some people make snap judgements but in a Strava setting, where you choose who to connect with, it struck me as remarkably ungenerous. I think giving someone a virtual 'shout' for an activity is just basic good sporting manners.
When I broke my hip in 2010 I was immobile for months but when I finally climbed onto the turbo (standing on a plastic step so that I could get onto the saddle) and logged my first 5 minutes in bottom gear, it felt like I'd won the Olympics.
Yet to an outsider, unaware of context, that was 5 minutes of rubbish pedalling.
Cheers, Gerard.
Love your sunshine. Complete fog our side of the Pennines.
Wow! The weather app was predicting fog & drizzle for us too, but for the most part it was watery sunshine.
Dirty roads with the mixture of snow-melt and grit, but it was nice to be able to take in the views. I hope it lifts for you, Anne.
Kudos for sofa surfing? I think you may be underestimating the will power needed to grid through nearly 10 minutes of some youtubers... How many miles per hours should I be let off for when on my £270 Bossnut then?
Strava will add it to their activity list, probably with a monthly viewing target - it's only a matter of time.
Once you swing to a summer bike you'll be flying!
I don't put my indoor training on strava as I look at it as not real cycling which leads to me not giving kudos for indoor cycling. I think I need to rethink my attitude after listening to you Gordon.
Cheers, Steve. I started on Strava in 2012 when it was still quite 'niche' but during my time-out it's blown-up into industry standard, and in that time it's assumed the role of training/activity diary where people log just about everything.
It would be interesting to know how many people still have a paper-based training diary nowadays - maybe I'll ask that question in the next video?
I see indoor cycling as part of the jigsaw - in the same way as core training, flexibility sessions, free-weights - they all contribute towards health, well-being, enthusiasm, and can make the main course of outdoor cycling more comfortable.
I want minus kudos points from them due to my Dutch style upright riding position. The more minus points the better.
I think it's meant be fun with a bit of mental and physical health benefits thrown in.
I rode a Belgian utility bike when I worked in Leuven - an immensely practical machine (trouser guard and all) with great visibility in the upright position. I'm sure that would normally have scored negative kudos points but there were thousands of other people riding them in the city!
@clippingin1593 Lol. Safety in numbers!
I got plenty of kudos last night, averaging 25.2 mph for an hour at 66 at threshold, on Tempus Fugit and beating hundreds of other riders decades younger than me, I think that was an achievement ?
Definitely kudos-worthy, especially in early January, but being on Zwift it won't sway the outdoor-only pack!
Unusual for you this video. You spent most of it discussing one topic, and one that had nothing to do with the scenery, history, geology, geography, places of interest etc, which your videos usual do deal with. I still enjoyed it though!
After the weather of the past fortnight when almost every cyclist I'm connected to has leaned on indoor trainers or other activities, I was surprised to read about the puritanical attitude towards encouragement on Strava.
UA-cam is a different environment and I've grown to expect a cluster of downvotes on most videos - although this one is heading towards a record in that regard!
Strava, however, is 'pre-selected' - you only see activities in your feed from people you've chosen to connect with - so the kudos judgement struck me as odd and worth mentioning on a local ride.
If I survive the avalanche of disapproval then I'll be back with the usual format towards the end of the week.
It is interesting to watch you riding through Hartshead, Roberttown, Brighouse, wherever, but I wouldn't watch you on a turbo or weightlifting, Gordon. Neither do I have a car, but, unlike you, I do record my shopping rides, which are up to 25 or so miles, ridden hard with panniers fully laden for the return trip. There is also the sensuous experience of being out and about in most conditions, which I thought you were an advocate of.
The channel's over two years old and I've yet to post an indoor training video, so I think we're safe, Harvey.
The only indoor videos are of a 'technical nature' where it makes sense to sit at a desk - cranks, carbs, reviews.
My point in this video was about Strava rather than UA-cam and I found it odd that some people are so selective with gestures of encouragement towards those they've opted to connect with.
If someone is posting weight-training, yoga, or stair-climbing to Strava then I think that's commendable.
I wouldn't want to watch it, and I wouldn't want to do half of those things, but I think it's great that people are getting stuck in, especially when many of those activities can make them stronger, more flexible cyclists for the big days out in spring, summer, autumn.
Yes. kudos batter then no effort. Like my strav Fran's . indoor riding is 24Hrs world wide for all . ( All the professionals use this in training programs do people give them a kudos as we'll ) as for me don't have in door trainer i have to do it all out side rides. Wet or dry but when i get back. You feeling Gratt with your health
Wise words, David.
I put all my rides on Strave I only ride ouside on the open road & trails finished with 12,805 miles in 2024
Super total. Well done.
The same people who turn their nose up at indoor cyclists would (I think) no doubt jump on an indoor bike if an injury prevented them from riding outside.
I have a hunch that the selective-kudos people aren't even on Strava and they'd just jumped on a thread to express their anti-turbo sentiments. For me, the turbo made perfect sense with the recent weather and road conditions, but there are plenty of other times when an indoor bike is a really useful arrow in the quiver.
Back in my racing days when I wanted to train uninterrupted at a specific pace on the aerobars it was far and away the best option, especially on a dark workday evening with limited spare time.
Talking of kudo,s Ebikes are a bit of a grey area to me.
@@DarrenWalsh-df8ew I've said before that I saw my dad losing strength & power at a frightening rate from his mid-70s. Cogs getting bigger, rides getting flatter, slower & shorter, and he packed up at 80, but if today's e-bikes had been around in 2010 then I'm sure he'd have enjoyed a few more years in the saddle climbing his beloved hills. I wouldn't buy one now but in a few years I might be glad of one. If people are using them to pinch uphill Strava KoMs then it's wrong, but as an assist for age/health/injury then I think they're good
Riding Ebikes as I do you can get some real stick pity they don't know all the circumstances 😂😂
It's odd that they choose to connect to other riders on a platform like Strava then become wrapped up in judging the value of activities. Leave them to it, and enjoy your cycling, Kieran.
@clippingin1593 I chose Ebikes.for a couple of health issues 68 this year managed just over 7k miles last year all out side .
Ebikes don't work great on a turbo.
@@kieranmccarragher3560 Great stuff. I wish today's e-bikes had been around in 2010 when my dad was pushing 80 and really struggling on the hills. He eventually packed up because of it.
@clippingin1593 I know your riding area very well used to work for a company in Pudsey for many years
@clippingin1593lots of negativity I see in the UK around e bikes following the BBC documentary (if that’s what you call it). Isn’t it bizarre how new technologies disrupt that slothful paradigms of society.
Your Strava account is yours and not ruled by someone else opinions on activities. If you want to track *your* fitness even if it's walking your dog, you go do it. I'd give it a like (and I do) 👍
Spot-on, David. They're the modern take on an activity/training diary.
I find it strange that with a platform like Strava, where these people choose their connections, they're not more generous and encouraging. My Strava experience is very positive so I was surprised when I read that road cc article.
I was looking for a 'snow-shovelling' category last week. Talk about core training!
@clippingin1593 Ye gods i've had to track anything out of a chair through this snowy period to keep the relative fitness from dropping - several snow dig sessions - even the neighbours 😂
@@davidowen9770 I read that Fausto Coppi's coach used to have his riders dredging the local rivers over the winter. Months of shovelling, and carrying buckets.... they never suffered back-ache in the long races again.
@clippingin1593 😂
I had such high hopes for global warming.
Knowing our luck it'll mean the Gulf Stream runs out of energy and we slide towards a Canadian winter!