I am very interested in buying a version of this compatable with an AM4 motherboard. The 1800x has been performing very well on ln2, so I think the sub ambient temperatures from a powerful 62mm tec and this block could lead to some very aggressive overclocks.
Yeah well who knew that Rayzen could actually be any good.. We all got burnt with the hype of Bulldozer that was a mega flop .. i Love AMD i'd love to go back to them but for years now they have been a complete joke. It will be interesting to see how intel responds. I suspect they will release some thing better. The great thing about Rayzen is the low wattages that makes TECing totally achievable.
Yeah, it's been years since they've been competetive. But right now they have a bunch of exciting stuff on the horizon like a dual gpu vega card (From the doom demo at ces it seems like a single vega card will perform similar to a 1080ti so a dual vega card will likely be a beast), and a 32 core server chip with SMT (and compatible dual socket motherboards!) and a workstation graphics card with 2tb of nvme ssd video memory. I seriously hope you will consider making a tec block for am4 and the dual vega card whenever that drops because I would definitely buy them. I would love to have a cpu and dual gpu direct die tec cooling loop sitting on my desk.
Oh im sure i will i just need to sell what i have first so i can make some AM4 blocks as well. right now im considering going back to AMD by the end of the year. I guess the 65watt version might be a great overclocker AND cos of it's low TDP it could be awesome under a TEC... I tried to get the dimensions for the AM4 socket and retention mechanism but haven't been able to find any thing MAYBE it's still like that AM2, as in you could get two 50mm TEC on there if so we could get more than 1000watts of QMAX in there .. would be kick ASS.
FYI I made a post on my FB page to see if i could drum up enough interest in a AM4 block to make it worth while to make some now. would be good if i could get some of the Active members of Overclock.net to Join my FB Page... I wouldn't mind rejoining OC.Net but im sure management would not allow that.. Would be nice if someone could get them to re concider.. im sure it's been more than 10 years now lol.
That's coming soonish, Though to be honest im a little afraid to sell them to people since i haven't found the world (internet) to be a very obliging place.
pretty nice, but the question, if I were to use this on an AMD 8350 or well, any CPU, would I need to worry about any kind of moisture getting onto the motherboard, or how could tat be tackled if it did become an issue? I hear some people put some kind of waterproofing/silicon style over the motherboard CPU area, but I don't think that would go pretty well on the heat dissipation of it? unless I'm wrong, I do want to buy something like this, since something I keep my PC running items for a very long period of times, tho max it goes is 70 even when overclocked, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt it to go cooler, especially when running a lot.
I want to use Peltier modules for DIY thermal cooling system to cool li-ion batteries (at 25 degree celsius) . I would like to know what's the total heat temperature output of 3 modules at constant +25 degree celsius cold side. Also the total consumption at that temperature. Planing to cool hot side of modules with existing closed loop liquid cooling system.
err What ? the new CPU's are not that big and mounting holes are the same as previous sockets www.ekwb.com/news/ek-confirms-intel-socket-lga-2066-compatibility/
is there anywhere i could source information and or reviews on how good this product works? Is there a notable difference with this? a review and benchmarks would be lovely. super interested. Also, if you make one of these for the whitehaven chips coming soon, id definitely consider buying one.
lots is in the pipe works. when the time is available. you could ask on over clock.net. about expected results. as for gpus. normally there is not enough space so you end up Tec water chilling them
thanks, would the TEC cpu cooler be compatible with this ? www.ebay.com/itm/Peltier-Thermoelectric-TEC-Cooler-62mm-x-62mm-560-Watt-HIGHEST-QUALITY-FROM-USA-/282468328937?hash=item41c46ca5e9:g:ey0AAOxy-W9SO0aS&rmvSB=true
Well via my facebook page i tried to get a number of people interested in buy some and only like 1-2 people were interested.. and being interested and actually buying one is a different story .... right now im not sure i'll be making anymore.. period... no one actually buys these blocks so whats the point of all the effort
Well normally you'd insulate the block and motherboard so that doesn't happen OR you just keep the cold side above Dew point and therefore there is no dew (water). I personally have just insulated the block in the past (Though im not suggesting you do that ).
One major issue I have found with such videos as this is that no one yet has said how many watts or BTUs per hour a peltier is able to handle. From what I have been able to find out so far there is no commonly available peltier that can handle the heat transfer of a modern CPU under load. And the only reason one would need to be used is when a CPU is Overclocked and producing a lot more heat. Why do none of you inform your viewers on how much actual heat in BTU/hour can be removed?
Because you dont need to know BTU'/ hour ... you know how many watts of heat the CPU is putting out very simply . and you know the Qmax in watts a TEC can move... No need to calculate that into BTU/hour for no reason.Also you can get massively power TEC's not just the fake junk on ebay.. you get what you pay for.
Heat is commonly misstated as Watts when in fact it is BTUs. But that aside, Peltiers are only rated in the # of Watts of Electricity they use. This has no direct relation to the # of Watts of heat that they transfer.
Err Qmax of a TEC is the heat in watts it can move.. and any reputable TEC will have that number ... i think you need to Investigate more on the topic.
Why can you, who are knowledgeable on this subject, not just state this then? I suspect that if someone used what you showed in this video they would in fact fry their CPU.
sandflesh thermal throttling of the cpu should prevent the cpu from dieing also the tec will still conduct heat if this fails or has no power so its not the end of the world. i actually have a video on tec reliability coming up. you should keep and eye out for it as it may help
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so what about condensation?
I am very interested in buying a version of this compatable with an AM4 motherboard. The 1800x has been performing very well on ln2, so I think the sub ambient temperatures from a powerful 62mm tec and this block could lead to some very aggressive overclocks.
Yeah well who knew that Rayzen could actually be any good.. We all got burnt with the hype of Bulldozer that was a mega flop .. i Love AMD i'd love to go back to them but for years now they have been a complete joke. It will be interesting to see how intel responds. I suspect they will release some thing better. The great thing about Rayzen is the low wattages that makes TECing totally achievable.
Yeah, it's been years since they've been competetive. But right now they have a bunch of exciting stuff on the horizon like a dual gpu vega card (From the doom demo at ces it seems like a single vega card will perform similar to a 1080ti so a dual vega card will likely be a beast), and a 32 core server chip with SMT (and compatible dual socket motherboards!) and a workstation graphics card with 2tb of nvme ssd video memory. I seriously hope you will consider making a tec block for am4 and the dual vega card whenever that drops because I would definitely buy them. I would love to have a cpu and dual gpu direct die tec cooling loop sitting on my desk.
Oh im sure i will i just need to sell what i have first so i can make some AM4 blocks as well. right now im considering going back to AMD by the end of the year. I guess the 65watt version might be a great overclocker AND cos of it's low TDP it could be awesome under a TEC... I tried to get the dimensions for the AM4 socket and retention mechanism but haven't been able to find any thing MAYBE it's still like that AM2, as in you could get two 50mm TEC on there if so we could get more than 1000watts of QMAX in there .. would be kick ASS.
FYI I made a post on my FB page to see if i could drum up enough interest in a AM4 block to make it worth while to make some now.
would be good if i could get some of the Active members of Overclock.net to Join my FB Page... I wouldn't mind rejoining OC.Net but im sure management would not allow that.. Would be nice if someone could get them to re concider.. im sure it's been more than 10 years now lol.
are the blocks for sale?
much better if the peltier is installed at the back of cpu case after the radiator where the water will be chilled. just for extra cooling
how do you overcome the ice building on the copper plate ?
what kind of temps are we talking about here ?
Very nice work. I'm missing the buy it now option however :-) Greetings from Denmark
That's coming soonish, Though to be honest im a little afraid to sell them to people since i haven't found the world (internet) to be a very obliging place.
Kurt Andersen On a more positive note greatings from New Zealand
pretty nice, but the question, if I were to use this on an AMD 8350 or well, any CPU, would I need to worry about any kind of moisture getting onto the motherboard, or how could tat be tackled if it did become an issue? I hear some people put some kind of waterproofing/silicon style over the motherboard CPU area, but I don't think that would go pretty well on the heat dissipation of it? unless I'm wrong, I do want to buy something like this, since something I keep my PC running items for a very long period of times, tho max it goes is 70 even when overclocked, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt it to go cooler, especially when running a lot.
you can insulate if you want.. or you can just control the TEC to keep the temps above dew point so insulation is not necessary
I'm curious how you machined the micro-channels. AFAIK they're fairly difficult to manufacture.
With a slitting saw
I want to use Peltier modules for DIY thermal cooling system to cool li-ion batteries
(at 25 degree celsius) .
I would like to know what's the total heat temperature output of 3 modules at constant +25 degree celsius cold side. Also the total consumption at that temperature.
Planing to cool hot side of modules with existing closed loop liquid cooling system.
Have you tried using my free TEC calculator
this sucjs you can't use this on a x299 because the cpu is bigger than the pelter is there any 100mm pelters
err What ? the new CPU's are not that big and mounting holes are the same as previous sockets
www.ekwb.com/news/ek-confirms-intel-socket-lga-2066-compatibility/
is there anywhere i could source information and or reviews on how good this product works? Is there a notable difference with this? a review and benchmarks would be lovely.
super interested. Also, if you make one of these for the whitehaven chips coming soon, id definitely consider buying one.
Bamcorp Gaming hello I don't believe an indepentant review has taken place sorry
could you do a demonstration?
lots is in the pipe works. when the time is available. you could ask on over clock.net. about expected results. as for gpus. normally there is not enough space so you end up Tec water chilling them
thanks, would the TEC cpu cooler be compatible with this ? www.ebay.com/itm/Peltier-Thermoelectric-TEC-Cooler-62mm-x-62mm-560-Watt-HIGHEST-QUALITY-FROM-USA-/282468328937?hash=item41c46ca5e9:g:ey0AAOxy-W9SO0aS&rmvSB=true
Yes it would not that, that is a good TEC. I wouldn't recommend that TEC to anyone
also are your prices NZD or ?
The proves are USD ..no one knows what NZD is :)
ok, So what kind of temps would we be looking at for a delidded 7700k ?
have you downloaded my TEC calculator ? Ultrasonic2.com ?
Not yet mate, Just downloaded it :)
so any chance you'll build one for AMD AM4 platform? I'll buy
Well via my facebook page i tried to get a number of people interested in buy some and only like 1-2 people were interested.. and being interested and actually buying one is a different story .... right now im not sure i'll be making anymore.. period... no one actually buys these blocks so whats the point of all the effort
???? and the peltier isnt sealed ..so the ice builds up and floods your system with condensed water ??????
Well normally you'd insulate the block and motherboard so that doesn't happen OR you just keep the cold side above Dew point and therefore there is no dew (water). I personally have just insulated the block in the past (Though im not suggesting you do that ).
WHAT ABOUT CONDENSATE
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You can insulate against that OR Control the TEC so it does not go below Dew point
Making Stuff Awesome but dew point is also dynamic.
Anyway can I use your concert in a new design of mine
Yes It is .. so you'd need to calculate that .. I have plans for such a controller but haven't finished it.
Not sure what you mean by this ? "Anyway can I use your concert in a new design of mine"
One major issue I have found with such videos as this is that no one yet has said how many watts or BTUs per hour a peltier is able to handle. From what I have been able to find out so far there is no commonly available peltier that can handle the heat transfer of a modern CPU under load. And the only reason one would need to be used is when a CPU is Overclocked and producing a lot more heat. Why do none of you inform your viewers on how much actual heat in BTU/hour can be removed?
Because you dont need to know BTU'/ hour ... you know how many watts of heat the CPU is putting out very simply . and you know the Qmax in watts a TEC can move... No need to calculate that into BTU/hour for no reason.Also you can get massively power TEC's not just the fake junk on ebay.. you get what you pay for.
Heat is commonly misstated as Watts when in fact it is BTUs. But that aside, Peltiers are only rated in the # of Watts of Electricity they use. This has no direct relation to the # of Watts of heat that they transfer.
Err Qmax of a TEC is the heat in watts it can move.. and any reputable TEC will have that number ... i think you need to Investigate more on the topic.
Why can you, who are knowledgeable on this subject, not just state this then? I suspect that if someone used what you showed in this video they would in fact fry their CPU.
Ok, the one you used here. What is it rated at?
DUDE HOW MUCH!?! that thing is sick I run a water chiller what kind of temps are you getting!?
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I would rather chill the water with the peltier than have it directly on the cpu. if the peltier dies so does the cpu
sandflesh thermal throttling of the cpu should prevent the cpu from dieing also the tec will still conduct heat if this fails or has no power so its not the end of the world. i actually have a video on tec reliability coming up. you should keep and eye out for it as it may help
Here we go
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I am waiting for a real try out ...
Yeah that would be nice but i can't see that happening anytime soon :(
Peltier is great for cooling but condensation is probelm so its bad for cpu and motherboard