Sorcery TCG| Beta is Sold Out: Impact and Reprint!
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- We will be talking about the fact that Team Covenant is now out of stock with Sorcery Beta boxes. We have seen this scenario before and it had some major impact on sealed and singles prices, but this time around we already know another reprint is coming. In the light of the Beta now being sold out most places, does the announcement of another reprint make us reevaluate the need for another reprint?
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As mentioned in the video these are the stores (from the Store Locator) that still have stock in Europe:
Sweden:
Mystery Shack
Denmark:
KelzOr
Belgium:
Aquila Gaming
Germany:
Yodas Data
Sapphire Cards
France:
Ludiworld
Play In
Switzerland:
GoodGames Bern
Italia:
DrCommodore
AZ Card & Game
Magic Maze
Spain
Padis
Hungary
Pottyös Zebra
Finland
Puolenkuunpelit
You can find all the information here on the Sorcery TCG Store Locator: sorcerytcg.com/locator ❤
I was fortunately able to get one summer beta box from team covenant!!... I got a foil aquamarine core in it!!😎🤘🎉
Nice! I really think the Cores in foil shine in the summer printing! 🤩
@CardboardGuide absolutely!!✨✨
Reprint with an unlimited symbol instead of a beta symbol. And/or create a reserved list with cards that will never be reprinted. And/or replace some of the cards in the set with new ones.
Thank you for watching and engaging!
I think we will get reprints in the form of an Unlimited or Revised set, and I have no doubt that for this set, they will order new art, change layout, change the set symbol, etc. I am sure they will do something to clearly mark this set as different from the original print of Alpha or Beta. How do you feel about the idea that there are so many types of collectibles in the game to collect, and the game will grow and people will need to pick up Beta cards, so it will end being very collectible, just at a slower pace then we have gotten used to from the first couple of years?
@ Interesting. That sounds great to me. Have you heard someone from Erik’s Curiosa confirm this, or is it purely rumours? I think it sounds good, what do you think? :)
@ (I assume that you meant to write ”so it will end UP being very collectible”?)
I enjoy opening Beta box over AL box... More packs, more card variety and more shinies
For sure, the bigger box, more cards, some really big hits, but for playing sealed or limited, and some with some great cards to update you constructed decks, Arthurian Legends absolutely also shines on its own! 🤩
You do such an excellent job of presenting the data. Many of your points had me rethinking my position of no more reprints.
The Arthurian Legends binder I received had 24 pages and the Beta binders each had 20. Is that common?
Looking forward to future episodes.
Thanks!
Thank you, that is so kind of you.
We try to weigh the different points and counterpoints to have a proper discussion, and I think there is merit to both sides of the more/no more Beta reprints.
We just counted and our Arthurian Legends binder has 24 pages, and the Beta also has 24 pages, so maybe some more issues?
I pulled a foil Witch and I am happy :)
Hard not to be! Séverine art on that card and in foil the Witch is even more stunning!
Will you be playing with the foil Witch? 🤩
@ absolutly!!! Its my best treasure and everybody must see it 😎
my binders were ok in the top and middle but not the bottom, too small and some where also slanted
Same for our Arthurian Legends binder, the Beta binder has too much variance, but it is actually useable. ❤
Thanks for checking out the live!
EUR 159,90 for beta display and more than 10 boxes available on german ebay from one big tcg seller
Good to know and the price is absolutely the best I have seen in Europe.
Most stores on the Store Locator was from 174€ to 234€, so I am happy to hear there are some cheaper and closer to MSRP options!
The problem is that a reprint will lower the single prices and then stores won’t be able to open boxes. It’s a tough situation. I kept a few boxes in stock to trickle out singles to my community.
We agree, but supply without knowing what the demand will be or grow to be is also really difficult, especially due to the fact that the Sorcery team want to get in LGS' at scale and a part of that offer is having Beta boxes, which they then need to have. However, I agree, for the game to be collectible (even though still with cheap Beta cards, there are many other tiers and avenues of collectibility within the game), they need to balance the print run and I personally (Sofie) hope that this will be the last reprint.
Thanks for checking out the livestream, we appreciate it!
a list of stores with boxes in europe would be fine. In Austria we are starving for more supply.
I will leave it as a pinned comment in this comment section. 😉 I hope it helps!
Thanks, guys. Good discussion. I agree with Jens. The uniques in AL that weren't unique rarity left a bad taste in my mouth.
I think it was a clumsy way to go about it. From a gameplay and flavor perspective it makes sense, but from the collector perspective it was not the best solution.
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Guess my envelope did not make it to you. Shame, Happy '25. 🤘🦁🤘
Dear Lion
Unfortunately, we have received a letter from you, if it was sent around Christmas? 🎄
Quick everyone, list your boxes
I think there are a lot of sealed Alpha being held, as for Beta I think a lot was opened, and while a few held on to more product than they need for themselves most just have a couple of boxes for keeps.
We will keep an eye of the sealed box prices, if a lot of new product from new sellers comes to market it will be interesting to see what it does to the prices.
Not sure if you guys ever watch Louie from Kitchen Table TCG’s podcast… I thought it was very interesting that Sorcery actually sold more in sealed $$$ value than FaB did in 2024 (per Josh’s data study).
We do, I usually listen to the @KitchenTableTCG podcast every Friday on my commute home from work. ;) I think Sorcery in general is doing really, really well, and the are just getting started, expanding the team and have four more sets that they are working on, so lots of exciting things coming up for Sorcery!
Just my two cents but the payment chart you showed is evidence that this game, in its infancy, was never at MSRP and prior to the first reprint things were out of control if we want to grow the game.
The best thing that could happen would be ensuring shipments are made to more stores to allow them to open singles and carry boxes. All of my stores in a city of 1M said they can’t get the boxes at a price that allows them to build an inventory.
Just a quick note on the graph, the picture couldn't also show the very beginning of Beta, so for awhile there was Beta out there at MSRP, and Team Covenant continuously kept boxes available, at least for the US, at MSRP of $150 for a very long time up until sometime last week, with very small pauses. I think that Arthurian Legends and Gothic will be the more widely available sets, unless they will continue to keep reprinting Beta, which I don't believe they will.
Beta was the first to retail set and dialling in how much product to print with only a Kickstarter product to evaluate on, and the team were very transparent about the fact that the demand only from the beginning outstripped the demand, and that meant more reprints, but even then, the first set of a TCG will at some point be out of print, and luckily a lot of the single cards out there are cheap, some more boxes are coming, and Beta precons are being reprinted.
Thank you for checking out the livestream! We appreciate you watching and engaging.
@@CardboardGuide Love the content. So wait is the Beta reprint announced just Precons or does it include Boosters? I may have confused myself!
The one thing I do hope they change is not making cards like the knights that are listed as uniques but really are more common. AL is a cool set but the opening experience is a bit frustrating.
@@blainethemono19 So it was officially announced by the company that they would be printing Beta precons, as these are essential for onboarding new players and having a pre-constructed option for people not so familiar with deck building.
In episode 25 of the All Things Contested Realm Podcast, Simon was interviewed by community member KevMo as shared that there would be a limited reprint of Beta.
Definitely check out the podcast and the interview.
I really hope that the "Ulite" Knights will be a one time thing, because it caused confusion and was just not the optimal solution, even though I get what they were trying to accomplish.
Thank you for the kind words!
I feel reprints for Sorcery should be okay for ~2-2.5 years as needed after release.
I think Beta was a bit different as a "core like" set, but otherwise I think a normal print cycle should be from release until the next set, perhaps with some overlap and then hopefully in waves to be able to better direct supply when and where needed. ;)
beta reprint after 5th set, limited to a small number of boxes (~10,000) or an alternate skew of beta (Limited) with a big change to artwork and or cards swapped from the other sets for flavor. ... also a unique run of curios for ultimate collect-ability.
I think they will print this last reprint of Beta the same, but hopefully this will be the last reprint and then we might get an Unlimited or Revised set gathering up needed cards from several sets to offer to new players, but hopefully with new art, new layout, and/or a new set symbol. We will see, but I do think if the game continues to grow that Beta will have more collectibility, as I don't think the reprints are large enough to take away the collectibility.
We really appreciate you connecting and watching the video! Thank you. 😉
Not gonna lie. I bought the last two cases on TCGplayer at 1,049/piece in case this goes crazy again.
I means, if we didn’t already have a couple of boxes, I would probably also want to buy a few to save for later play and/or opening. 😉
As far as what is the best option, buying now or waiting for the reprint to come, will totally depend on the size of the reprint, I would also want a box or two squirreled away. 😉
Thanks for checking out the video! 🙌🏻
Ill be opening most of them for the singles store, building my Set draft/limited Cube, and maybe a box or two stashed away.
Sounds like a good plan!
The issue is that with 1-5 cases in each store in Europe you dont get enough cores, stones and other unique staple sites that people need to build the meta or relevant decks, this make players hesitant in to get into the game or not, also stores not been able to just order the game make them doubt into put effort in growing a community
I agree that there is still an issues with the amount of product, but if you look at a good deal of the top tier meta decks, there isn't a universal need for the cores and the stone, but I think some of this would also greatly be smoothed out with having better access to singles in Europe, like Cardmarket, but there are two new sites for singles here in Europe, this will of course only be helpful for the players.
In terms of the stores, new games are always difficult unless there is a player at the store who is willing and want to really champion the game forward, share bulk, keep showing up for events, do Learn to Plays etc. and I really hope that some of the Beta boxes from the reprint will go directly to stores needing them for in store play and building community.
Thank you for checking out the livestream and engaging with us in the comment, I am sorry for the delay in reply, that day job taking up time. 😉
Hmmmm either reprint as normal. Or go with the FAB method of reprinting the set with all the same cards but with an unlimited symbol. No reserve list etc - the game is young and cards need to be accessible for the game to grow
I don't think we will see a reserved list in Sorcery, I think they will be extra careful with the coming reprint and make sure that it will be the list one, and then we might get either a Revised or Unlimited type set in a few years, but with a new symbol and/or new art for reprinted cards. Thank you for checking out the video and leaving a comment, we appreciate it!
So beta going to zero good to know.. will just buy a box per release till they stop the bs fab level disaster incoming😮
If you saw the video, I think it is more nuanced than that. I don't think Beta will be going to zero and we are seeing a lot of people picking up Beta cards and boxes now, because there is no way of knowing the timing, the amount or the target for the reprint and it sounded like the reprint will be very targeted, so how much it will move prices is unknown until we have more information.