NEW Scott Genius | Where’s The Shock?!

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
  • Scott has completely refreshed its trail-riding, all-mountain slaying Genius model, taking inspiration from the enclosed shock of its XC-focused Spark, and giving it a 150mm makeover.
    Two models of this new Genius will be offered, with a standard Genius and a more aggressive Genius Super Trail that’s designed with descending in mind, which Tom rides in this video. Both get 160mm forks, but the Super Trail has burlier components.
    Scott’s reimagined Genius Super Trail has a piggyback Fox X Nude shock hidden in the depths of the frame, using rocker link tech borrowed from the Spark XC bike.
    In this video, Tom gives you his initial ride impressions from the Scott Genius launch in Italy and tells you everything you need to know about Scott’s latest trail machine.
    What do you think of the hidden shock? Let us know in the comments!
    Chapters
    00.00 Intro
    00:37 A Quick Look
    01:29 Hidden Shock
    02:44 How Does It Work?
    05:09 Geometry
    05:41 Ride Impressions
    08:15 Specification & Performance
    11:34 Overview
    12:42 Conclusion
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 54

  • @DM-hw4cr
    @DM-hw4cr Рік тому +11

    Let's stuff everything in the frame and make it a nightmare to work on. Brilliant!

    • @pernyberg2816
      @pernyberg2816 Рік тому

      But that means Scott can market it as a feature, put a higher price on it, make the frames cheaper and turn a bigger profit?! Whats not to love?

    • @rewernan
      @rewernan Рік тому

      Only for sybarite riders

  • @chaotictattoo
    @chaotictattoo Рік тому +2

    I like the lower travel with the spark because im more of a hardtail rider.. never loved tons of travel. but these are nice bikes.

  • @quban79
    @quban79 Рік тому +14

    Sorta feels like the mtb industry has progressed so far in the past few years bike manufacturers are now starting to come up with new ideas/ solutions to problems that don't exist

    • @downhilljedi
      @downhilljedi Рік тому +1

      Actually Scott stole this from a small bike manufacturer. I believe the company was called bold. Typical for Scott. Never comes up with anything new .. just borrow and steal from others.

    • @ajmarecki
      @ajmarecki Рік тому +5

      @@downhilljedi Scott acquired Bold. They didn’t steal it and it is rightfully theirs now. However you are right about the fact that Scott didn’t invent it.

  • @outsidefootdab4878
    @outsidefootdab4878 Рік тому +1

    seems like a good idea hiding the shock, however only issue i can see is that there is no airflow around shock and could heat up, decreasing its performance, especially over long descents. However this review they have not mentioned it. But im sure when its hot it would make a difference

  • @jammanjim6914
    @jammanjim6914 Рік тому +3

    Not keen on the ebike aesthetics. Looks bloated, they're missing a trick by having no inframe storage in this design. As an existing genius owner who loves the twin lock, which adds cables, maybe they should have made that electronic to make the cockpit nicer instead of the workshop head scratcher. I'm sure it's an awesome bike, but does it have any real advantage over my existing one?

    • @patrik.clifford
      @patrik.clifford Рік тому +1

      I would say no, not at all... and the old version actually looks a lot better.... lean and fast, not bloated and fat :-) I´m keeping my 2022...

    • @michaelrobinson5268
      @michaelrobinson5268 Рік тому +1

      @@patrik.clifford The ST is not comparable to the old Genius range IMO. The new one has 160mm up front and a piggy back shock that works in a different way to the old rear shock. The ST is a bit longer. I have only ridden the new ST once so far, but it is the 9th Genius I have owned. Initial impressions it that it is more stable, a bit slacker and longer but it also feels a bit less nimble. However, I do not have my suspension fully dailed in and have not made any stack height adjustments and have left it on the slack mode. I think I will start by changing it to the steeper mode. I perfer to ride a bit more over the front. Then I will likely drop the stack height one large spacer. I believe this coupled with dailing in the suspension settings will make it a dream to ride.

  • @arfarzam
    @arfarzam Рік тому +7

    I love this. Haters gonna hate.

  • @Raxters123
    @Raxters123 Рік тому

    Do you know when this bike going out to the market

  • @dcv9460
    @dcv9460 Рік тому +2

    CLEAN 💯

  • @Mardegente2024
    @Mardegente2024 Рік тому +11

    I was still on the fence about the integrated shock on the Spark but it was kind of growing on me. But on this Genius, the frame seems bloated because of the bigger shock. Really not a fan

    • @MoonMage67
      @MoonMage67 Рік тому +4

      i dont even get the point, why is this beneficial? i have no issues with my shock being out of the frame.

    • @CarlosPerez-cb4ie
      @CarlosPerez-cb4ie Рік тому

      @@MoonMage67 the main thing I see is keeping it a bit safe from damage and external things that can reduce its life like mud, water, dirt

    • @arfarzam
      @arfarzam Рік тому +1

      @@MoonMage67 lower center of gravity, lighter stiffer frame, longer shock service intervals, more frame storage.

  • @topchoice1621
    @topchoice1621 Рік тому +2

    I actually like this bike the hating in the comments are just a bunch of babies

  • @ВадимСорин-у8й
    @ВадимСорин-у8й Рік тому

    What is the price of this bike?

  • @niezgodacomedy
    @niezgodacomedy Рік тому +1

    What a bold design! Inspired by Boldcycles...

    • @888_p3t3r
      @888_p3t3r Рік тому

      I think Scott actually inquired bold.

    • @ancogbernard
      @ancogbernard Рік тому +2

      ​@@888_p3t3r "acquired."
      they own bold cycles now.

  • @field.palmer
    @field.palmer Рік тому +4

    To all the nay sayers, I have a 2022 Scott spark rc and it's not hard to work on. I was able to change the stem to a normal one, put on riser bars, route a dropper post cable (actually super easy because of the shock access), and the trap door shock access really makes it no different to work on than an external shock. My only real complaint is all of the Syncros stems, dropper levers, etc are out of stock

    • @Raxters123
      @Raxters123 Рік тому +1

      Bro do you have video can share

    • @field.palmer
      @field.palmer Рік тому +2

      @@Raxters123 no, lol, sorry, I'm not a you tuber. If you want to DM me feel free, and I can show you some pics. But, basically I put on a renthal stem, 50mm with 5 degree rise, oneup bars with 20mm rise. I cutoff the little "stem hugger" riser cover thing. Then I added a wolf tooth bar centric lever for the dropper. It clears the lock out levers really well. I tried bike yoke before (I think that's the name), and it was absolutely terrible. It chewed through 2 or 3 cables in 10 rides. It was a terrible design. Wolftooth design is excellent. I used my old pnw 200mm dropper (on am XL frame, tight fit, but worked for my long legs, the post has micro adjustments, so I think it's more at 190 now, but slammed.) The dropper cable is super easy to route. Send me your email or whatever and I can send pics

  • @marcandrep
    @marcandrep Рік тому +7

    Would have been a great design a few years ago. Now it just looks like an ebike

    • @TheWeardale1
      @TheWeardale1 Рік тому

      yeah, people shout abuse as you cycle past haha

    • @andypaul999
      @andypaul999 Рік тому +1

      Exactly. Are they trying to piss us off or make e-bikers feel more inclusive?

  • @Calispeedboi
    @Calispeedboi Рік тому

    Twin lock and having everything routed though the headset just seems like a pain.
    Meanwhile you have transition bikes who still gives us external brake routing to make life super easy.

  • @umah.
    @umah. Рік тому

    Does it have enough room to put Rockshox flight attendant in?

  • @britshell
    @britshell Рік тому +4

    Looks like a huge pain to service and upgrade.

  • @pernyberg2816
    @pernyberg2816 Рік тому

    So, buy a insanely expensive bike that you can't switch shock on and have to buy a new stem and bar just to be able to adjust it? And oh wait - don't forget the SHIT decision of routing the cables THROUGH THE HEADSET?! WHY IS THIS A TREND?
    Really good review from Tom leaving no stone unturned and actually point out the weaknesses like working on your bike and the Hixon bar. Great stuff - as per usual 👍

    • @ericmenu5408
      @ericmenu5408 Місяць тому

      Beauty and aesthetics is not a « trend »

    • @pernyberg2816
      @pernyberg2816 Місяць тому

      @@ericmenu5408 beauty is in the eye of the beholder = This is a trend. A shitty one

  • @SunSnowGravity
    @SunSnowGravity Рік тому

    It' inside!

  • @ThunderStruckMTB
    @ThunderStruckMTB Рік тому +13

    Great. A mountain bike that was purposely designed to look like a motor assisted bike.... and then there's the cable routing. I will never spend a penny on a bike with cables/hoses routed through the headset. Ever.

  • @JogBird
    @JogBird Рік тому +4

    integrated rear shock is the new integrated cockpit-steerer... bike journalists are doing their job to promote it up

    • @kpblasko
      @kpblasko Рік тому +6

      Makes sense, keep a wear item out of the elements. Hard to say why that wouldn't be a good idea. Oh right, I'm a bike consumer and therefore I'm meant to assume every new technology is a cash grab. Apologies.

    • @TomMarvin1
      @TomMarvin1 Рік тому +3

      Thanks for the comment. I feel that I reported the location of the shock, rather than promoted it? In fact, I criticised the position of it, as it's harder to read the lag level (along with criticising the hose routing 🙂 ). Comments on it being kept out of mud and grit are legitimate.
      If it help, I thought the bike was great and I'm looking forward to riding it more 👍

  • @Progfan1965
    @Progfan1965 Рік тому

    I like the clean looks, but I don’t think that the cover for the shock is going to survive many rock strikes and then your frame will fill with grime. And it’s going to be a nightmare to work on.

  • @Cracke007
    @Cracke007 Рік тому

    good electric bike

  • @JBogevik
    @JBogevik Рік тому +11

    New Scott bikes are ugly, the routing through the headset just looks wierd and the hidden shock make it look like a E-mtb.

    • @ziggym104
      @ziggym104 Рік тому +3

      Scott has a reputation for designing and building things that nobody has asked for. Also a mechanical nightmare.

    • @simm0l
      @simm0l 4 місяці тому

      @@ziggym104 If that was true, they would had been out of business long time ago :) If they keep selling out on bikes, then people like them. Buy and Ride what you like and can, no need to be salty about it :D

  • @aldrinclementina4297
    @aldrinclementina4297 8 місяців тому

    Nice! so its a xc bike

  • @grantchandler8294
    @grantchandler8294 Рік тому

    It's definitely a clean looking bike but I just don't like the integrated stem and bar! and the cables through the headset oh dear what a nightmare why!!!!

  • @XCRiders
    @XCRiders Рік тому

    Shaped like a pear 🍐

  • @theshonen8899
    @theshonen8899 Рік тому +4

    This bike is going to age poorly...no one wants an e-bike looking pedal bike.

  • @Daniel-ynuhnunu
    @Daniel-ynuhnunu Рік тому +2

    First ❤❤

    • @bikeradar
      @bikeradar  Рік тому +2

      You've scored the top prize! 1,000,000 BikeRadar gold stars. Keep up the good work from all at BikeRadar!

  • @andrejhaluska4061
    @andrejhaluska4061 Рік тому

    Its so ugly. Looks like Ebike.

  • @wonderwatch2239
    @wonderwatch2239 Рік тому

    Twin lock is stupid on a trail bike 👎🏼