*IMPORTANT ! READ THE FULL PINNED POST !* First - It took me 4 days of battling 5th world country PC crashing non stop to bring YOU,the community,the tier list you wanted! *You can use this on ANY difficulty,both SP and MP campaign approved. Extensive testing,blood,sweat and tears in SP and MP for you guys 😂* *Second - There will be a *HUGE*,and I mean *HUGE* *announcement in a day or two - keep your eyes peeled* 👀 *I promise you it's worth your time* Some notes: - There are truly godlike units out there like (s)exemplary ambushers,but the realistic chance of including them in your campaign is...almost nonexistant if you're not in that corner of the map. That's why some rosters are not at the top GLOBALLY despite having AMAZING units on a local scale. -*AEGEAN CHARIOTS ARE BUGGED - THEIR COMBAT STATS ARE PERFECTLY FINE BUT THEIR SPEED ON THE UNIT CARD IS WRONG ! THE CHARIOTS PERFORM BETTER BC OF SPEED BUT THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTIONS' PLACEMENTS* - Akhetaten is at the edge of Lower Egypt AND Upper Egypt. This allows you to recruit OP high rank armored archers for garrisons/cheap armies,and easily combine OP Upper Egypt and Nubian units ( Upper Egypt is at the border,north Nubia is very close) - Don't sleep on different unit types and combinations,the days of pure axe spam are long gone! Mix mix swirl mix for the best results! Join us on discord for history and memes! discord.gg/aTazB9c2X7
Just want to point out that apparently the speed on the Aegean chariots is a UI big from Troy, I’ve been told that in reality their speed is the same as other chariots but I haven’t been able to test it yet. I’ve been playing Thrace and I haven’t noticed their chariots performing any worse than others, in fact they seem to do extremely well for their cost.
Eyo, I still come back to this video because of how good it is. Made me wonder if you’re planning on doing a similar one on all the faction exclusives units? That would be amazing.
@@barker505 :( I know,I didn't forget - had big technical issues which halted progress on multiple big videos but it's fixed so expect a faction tier list during our lifetime ( aka sooner than you think)
I love phalanx formation, especially one with movement. You can do battle of cannes type encirclements with it by pushing mid back in phalanx retreat formation
The movement one is REALLY good in those situations,the stationary ones are pretty feelsbad for the massive attack loss. They've buffed all spearmen in the game with like + 9 def aprox, the extra tankyness gets some diminishing returns. I do love the main faction Greek spearmen for sure compared to the natives!
Yes! Lower Egypt, I agree completely. It was beyond terrible. But now, with so many dudes slapping, someone's bound to get killed. If nothing else, by mistake. I actually loved going Egyptian Alexander the Great with Ramesses. It's similar to why I like playing Seti the Zerg king.
Just a bunch of dudes doing dude things,like playing Egyptcraft...it's just crazy how good the lower egyptian armored archers are now,even without buffs
@@ReptilicusTV I'm playing Seti right now and beside Royal Archers and Upper Egypt Chariots, they're basically my main firing line. Can't wait for those Upper Egyptian Renowned Archers though :D
As someone who keeps playing Babylonian campaigns (it's just so fun) Akkadian militias are so good because they replenish sssooo fast thanks to one of the unique Babylonian general titles, and become much cheaper thanks to one of the others. And as I refuse to use cavalry outside of the Cimmerian units and the camels, those Akkadian Skirmishers are just *chef's kiss*. And if you take the legacy of Hammurabi and start buffing them with your military laws, these three Akkadian units and Babylon's unique archers (and Sappers) will be taking down much higher tier enemies.
I watched the entire thing!! Thank you so much for your effort making this video, I got a lot of value from it. Is it just me or is everything now rated decent or better because of lethality 😂
Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah lethality monstrously buffed the viability of units,but not only that,a lot of units got stat changes for the patch. F.e. spears got around 9 extra defense which is really sweet,swords got better both offensively and defensively,and they increased the minimum hit chance for everyone by about 5 % IIRC
Thanks for the elaborate list. I just really hate how the golden age of chariots doesn't really come across, especially when ahistoric cavalry trounces them at everything...
No problem,anytime ! Chariots are done so poorly in the game - the original idea to make them larger in unit size( to emulate "cavalry") ended up causing so many collision and gameplay issues with them...not to mention that cavalry completely overshadows them now. Don't get me to start a 3 hour rant video on top tier cav :D
@@ReptilicusTV I think that 3h rant is exactly what's needed. 😃 That being said I would be fine with some scout cav bring a latte game unlock in the tech tree but mostly just reducing the model count and just upping the lethality of chariots would already help a lot.
@@Jules4878 I gotta start recording all the rambling in one place then XD yeah,reducing cavalry model size is a VERY good idea to start with. Tt';s just a shame the way chariots are - there are some mods that def improve them but the collision issues are just such a big problem that ruins the whole experience.
Hello! Greetings from Belgium! Thank a lot for your works ! I've learned a lot for the game that i had since the release and a huge amount about the bronze age! I didn't know that much about it, i'm more of a medieval's guy. And you make me laugh ! 😂 Im' also happy that some people stil enjoy this game ( who's not perfect) but still a good game! And as i've always see the tw franchise as a peplum-like ( as ben hur or the fall of the Roman empire), so not historical at all but great ambience and immersion, i'm enjoying it a lot! Keep it up, please ! I'm waiting with impatience the next video about history of the bronze age! And thanks for the list... I'll know what recruit in my iolaos's (who's dead.😢) campaign . PS: does anyone had a bug where after iolaos's ( or alyatte) death, your amry can't take anymore enemy's outpost to make tribal camps ?
Hey,I'm *REALLY* glad you enjoy what I do here ! I love all periods tbh,this one just happens to have a really special spot in my heart! Historical-educational vids will continue,it's just gonna take a little bit more time to produce since right now I gotta push out guides to help the people ! I'll keep on the grind no matter what :D And I have the exact same bug with the Sherden and Peleset,there's also the melee defense bug - there's a bugfix mod on steam that fixes the defense bug but idk if it touches the outposts.
@@ReptilicusTV thanks I'll try it . Or I hope CA Sofia will hear of it and fix it. And i would like, if it's not too much, a guide about the faction's units (Rameses's medjay, irsu's sabu nagib etc...) they're really some units I don't find them a use for or how to. Thanks in advance!
Haribu Raiders are awesome. I still keep 1-2 of them in my army for the select purpose of finishing off routing enemies at the end of a battle. They're as close as you can come to cavalry!
army of pack camels + horse archers + heavy cav and you have the army that defeated Crassus's five legions when he tried to invade Parthia 1100 years later
Well I'm doing well regardless of what faction I use. I love cheap units, you can cover a lot of ground and hit the enemies economically, especially in a head to head campaign.
If I'm elected President,free gym memberships and BRONZE for all ( jk gonna go bankrupt) ! Yeah I'll get around to doing that one soon,just gonna go through a few chill vids first.
Join the Mesopotamian court as Irsu. Take a weekend sailing trip down the Tigris and knock out the sitting King of Elam and claim that beautiful axe that strengthens Irsu's already barbaric playstyle - and you get access to those excellent units!
@@ReptilicusTV Enjoying the Elite Elamite Vanguard atm. Real nice to have a 2h Club charging unit that doesn't go berserk like Irsu's faction clubbers. :P
@@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll berserk is coded so weird in this game it ends up being a detriment 90 % of the time,no wonder even elite Elamites end up looking like a really good unit in comparison! The few times it procs when you want it to proc though..... 🤤
@@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Yup legit had a battle yday where instead of berserk triggering at decisive flanking moments etc ( after the inner cooldown passed) it ............. TRIGGERED ONLY ON ROUTING UNITS
Im halfway through so far and i gotta ask: how badly does disabling lethality mess up balancing in your opinion? I've been playing with it off and have been having more fun because of the slower time to kill.
Playing two battles on legendary with lethality disabled would take longer than the video XD for real tho I feel it's a lot closer to the previous version minus some specific overtuned units. It does mess up the "intended" game pace.
I shall watch the video when I have the time But what I like to do is just spam elite bow chariots and pincushion any who stand against me, like a true Bronze Age general It’s very cost ineffective but who cares it’s fun
I'll give you a few per culture : Chariots : - Royal Chariot Companions ( Egypt) - Maryannu Chariots ( Canaan) - Royal Hittite Chariots ( Kurunta's armored Kaskian chariots are also beastly if you are not going for the Hatti throne) - PALASTU CHARIOTS - Thorns of Thrace for javelins,Mad mares of Thrace for heavy,both are native units,you need to conquer the region for mares. Cavalry : - Assur horsemasters,if you own Assur and join the Mesopotamian court. They'll murder anything. - Cimmerian elite. They'll murder horsemasters,and anything.
Honestly I'd only rank Zagros as S-tier as no faction has comparable cavalry, in other cases these units can only be good early to mid-game (unless you are playing a faction that lacks good roster) but late game there are better alternatives.
Lovely guide but why is your image alwats SO dark? In some of your videos we can barely see the units and I spend my time on yt, yours is the only channel with this problem.
I have a question... 🤔 Can you tell me why the AI wants to donate its points to me if I do Legitimacy Support ? I don't understand why they would want to donate its legitimacy to me since they used it as a means for civil war? It doesn't make sense... The nice thing is that if you ask for little legitimacy they don't give it to you, if you ask for all of it, yes, while they are waging war on Pharaoh and with one click I would solve my problems.
Bro, great video. You just got a sub and like. Would really appreciate Faction units too. I am playing Amenmesse and drowning the world with golden arrows.
*IMPORTANT ! READ THE FULL PINNED POST !*
First - It took me 4 days of battling 5th world country PC crashing non stop to bring YOU,the community,the tier list you wanted!
*You can use this on ANY difficulty,both SP and MP campaign approved. Extensive testing,blood,sweat and tears in SP and MP for you guys 😂*
*Second - There will be a *HUGE*,and I mean *HUGE* *announcement in a day or two - keep your eyes peeled* 👀 *I promise you it's worth your time*
Some notes:
- There are truly godlike units out there like (s)exemplary ambushers,but the realistic chance of including them in your campaign is...almost nonexistant if you're not in that corner of the map. That's why some rosters are not at the top GLOBALLY despite having AMAZING units on a local scale.
-*AEGEAN CHARIOTS ARE BUGGED - THEIR COMBAT STATS ARE PERFECTLY FINE BUT THEIR SPEED ON THE UNIT CARD IS WRONG ! THE CHARIOTS PERFORM BETTER BC OF SPEED BUT THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTIONS' PLACEMENTS*
- Akhetaten is at the edge of Lower Egypt AND Upper Egypt. This allows you to recruit OP high rank armored archers for garrisons/cheap armies,and easily combine OP Upper Egypt and Nubian units ( Upper Egypt is at the border,north Nubia is very close)
- Don't sleep on different unit types and combinations,the days of pure axe spam are long gone! Mix mix swirl mix for the best results!
Join us on discord for history and memes! discord.gg/aTazB9c2X7
Wow, dude... You're the boss!
@@TheRealMrWolf Like,bro,you're the boss my guy!
@@ReptilicusTV No! You're the boss! ;P
Just want to point out that apparently the speed on the Aegean chariots is a UI big from Troy, I’ve been told that in reality their speed is the same as other chariots but I haven’t been able to test it yet. I’ve been playing Thrace and I haven’t noticed their chariots performing any worse than others, in fact they seem to do extremely well for their cost.
@@aidanchutkan8662 The T2/T3 performed well enough in combat so i was genuinely confused,if it's a UI bug then ill fix the error right away.
Appreciate how much work you put into this. Underrated channel.
Thank you very much,I'm glad someone appreciates the work :D
I keep coming back to this more than I’d like to admit 👍
"Gods forbid you turn to Atenism"
lol good one.
Thanks for the vid, pretty lepful.
Glad you enjoyed it ! More vids like this inc.
Eyo, I still come back to this video because of how good it is. Made me wonder if you’re planning on doing a similar one on all the faction exclusives units? That would be amazing.
Absolutely,just working on another huge vid meanwhile and waiting to see if we're getting the big patch soon.
@@ReptilicusTVSomehow I didn’t get the notification of your reply and only now noticed it, but that’s awesome to hear. 👍
@@ReptilicusTV 1 month later and still waiting for this :(:(:(
@@barker505 :( I know,I didn't forget - had big technical issues which halted progress on multiple big videos but it's fixed so expect a faction tier list during our lifetime ( aka sooner than you think)
Great video again Reptilicus! Already excited for the coming announcement! :D
Glad you enjoyed it :D Oh trust me.......if everything is according to plan....It's gonna be insane.
I love phalanx formation, especially one with movement. You can do battle of cannes type encirclements with it by pushing mid back in phalanx retreat formation
The movement one is REALLY good in those situations,the stationary ones are pretty feelsbad for the massive attack loss. They've buffed all spearmen in the game with like + 9 def aprox, the extra tankyness gets some diminishing returns. I do love the main faction Greek spearmen for sure compared to the natives!
Subbed because of this video. Amazing work!
Now that's what I love to hear,glad you enjoyed it !
Now do the best factions units next please
Will be on the way soon,just need to tie up some other Pharaoh related projects!
Yes! Lower Egypt, I agree completely. It was beyond terrible. But now, with so many dudes slapping, someone's bound to get killed. If nothing else, by mistake. I actually loved going Egyptian Alexander the Great with Ramesses. It's similar to why I like playing Seti the Zerg king.
Just a bunch of dudes doing dude things,like playing Egyptcraft...it's just crazy how good the lower egyptian armored archers are now,even without buffs
@@ReptilicusTV I'm playing Seti right now and beside Royal Archers and Upper Egypt Chariots, they're basically my main firing line. Can't wait for those Upper Egyptian Renowned Archers though :D
@@TheRealMrWolf BRONZE MACHINE GUNS
@@ReptilicusTV T3 archer with (at the moment) 67 Armor and 16 lethality. Won't complain.
@@TheRealMrWolf Smokin'
Great video buddy next stop 3k subscribers. Also whoever reads this. He deserves some members.
Thank you thank you,READ WHAT HE SAID AND DO IT XD
Mace-Axes having both armor breaking and strong vs shields is so underratedly scary.
True battlefield heroes honestly,I LOVE this unit. Surprised they didn't add an elite,1 handed ( more accurate) version.
As someone who keeps playing Babylonian campaigns (it's just so fun) Akkadian militias are so good because they replenish sssooo fast thanks to one of the unique Babylonian general titles, and become much cheaper thanks to one of the others. And as I refuse to use cavalry outside of the Cimmerian units and the camels, those Akkadian Skirmishers are just *chef's kiss*. And if you take the legacy of Hammurabi and start buffing them with your military laws, these three Akkadian units and Babylon's unique archers (and Sappers) will be taking down much higher tier enemies.
Yup,pure monsters. Akkadian skirmishers got the drip and the destruction
How do you do it!?!? THANK YOU! Kept my attention the entire time
I............I have problems man.
I watched the entire thing!! Thank you so much for your effort making this video, I got a lot of value from it. Is it just me or is everything now rated decent or better because of lethality 😂
Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah lethality monstrously buffed the viability of units,but not only that,a lot of units got stat changes for the patch. F.e. spears got around 9 extra defense which is really sweet,swords got better both offensively and defensively,and they increased the minimum hit chance for everyone by about 5 % IIRC
Huge work! Thank you
Anything for the community ! What's your favorite native roster so far ?
Great video as always. ❤
Glad you enjoyed it :D :D :D
Thanks for the elaborate list.
I just really hate how the golden age of chariots doesn't really come across, especially when ahistoric cavalry trounces them at everything...
No problem,anytime ! Chariots are done so poorly in the game - the original idea to make them larger in unit size( to emulate "cavalry") ended up causing so many collision and gameplay issues with them...not to mention that cavalry completely overshadows them now. Don't get me to start a 3 hour rant video on top tier cav :D
@@ReptilicusTV I think that 3h rant is exactly what's needed. 😃
That being said I would be fine with some scout cav bring a latte game unlock in the tech tree but mostly just reducing the model count and just upping the lethality of chariots would already help a lot.
@@Jules4878 I gotta start recording all the rambling in one place then XD yeah,reducing cavalry model size is a VERY good idea to start with. Tt';s just a shame the way chariots are - there are some mods that def improve them but the collision issues are just such a big problem that ruins the whole experience.
@@ReptilicusTV if you made videos showing off some of those mods that'd rule! :)
@@Jules4878 Well....can't reveal all my cards can I :D
omg 1,5h video, can't wait to watch it all
Hello! Greetings from Belgium!
Thank a lot for your works ! I've learned a lot for the game that i had since the release and a huge amount about the bronze age! I didn't know that much about it, i'm more of a medieval's guy. And you make me laugh ! 😂
Im' also happy that some people stil enjoy this game ( who's not perfect) but still a good game!
And as i've always see the tw franchise as a peplum-like ( as ben hur or the fall of the Roman empire), so not historical at all but great ambience and immersion, i'm enjoying it a lot!
Keep it up, please ! I'm waiting with impatience the next video about history of the bronze age! And thanks for the list... I'll know what recruit in my iolaos's (who's dead.😢) campaign .
PS: does anyone had a bug where after iolaos's ( or alyatte) death, your amry can't take anymore enemy's outpost to make tribal camps ?
Hey,I'm *REALLY* glad you enjoy what I do here ! I love all periods tbh,this one just happens to have a really special spot in my heart! Historical-educational vids will continue,it's just gonna take a little bit more time to produce since right now I gotta push out guides to help the people ! I'll keep on the grind no matter what :D And I have the exact same bug with the Sherden and Peleset,there's also the melee defense bug - there's a bugfix mod on steam that fixes the defense bug but idk if it touches the outposts.
@@ReptilicusTV thanks I'll try it . Or I hope CA Sofia will hear of it and fix it.
And i would like, if it's not too much, a guide about the faction's units (Rameses's medjay, irsu's sabu nagib etc...) they're really some units I don't find them a use for or how to. Thanks in advance!
@@gaetarrow8692 They started fixing some bugs so hopefully this gets tackled soon too. And don't worry,a guide on that will be on the way soon too :D
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it bud!
Haribu Raiders are awesome. I still keep 1-2 of them in my army for the select purpose of finishing off routing enemies at the end of a battle. They're as close as you can come to cavalry!
Absolutely,I try to include them in any army that goes through the Sinai or Canaanite hinterlands ! My Emar campaign uses them a lot rn.
i know it's a lot of work, but could you one day add timestamps based on regions, please?
Ill get around to doing it
18:00 URARTU 🇦🇲❤️
ABSOLUTE GODS !!!!!!!!!
"Smashing from the rear is where it's really at...". AGREED....!!!😂
😇
Great TIER LIST
Thank YOU
will there be better timestamps?
army of pack camels + horse archers + heavy cav and you have the army that defeated Crassus's five legions when he tried to invade Parthia 1100 years later
TRRRRRRRRRRRRUE,AI can't deal with HA and Cimmerian Elite in the slightest
glorious trakian unit roster
Well I'm doing well regardless of what faction I use. I love cheap units, you can cover a lot of ground and hit the enemies economically, especially in a head to head campaign.
Achaean hillmen are definitely among my favourites as well. True to their name in looks and use, just go ooga-boogan and charge those enemy flanks ^^
Total War : Caveman going strong ngl! The unit is just so fun to use.
Reptilicus for President!
Can you make same for faction units?
If I'm elected President,free gym memberships and BRONZE for all ( jk gonna go bankrupt) ! Yeah I'll get around to doing that one soon,just gonna go through a few chill vids first.
Will you do faction specific units?
Will do! Just tying up some other Pharaoh projects.
Join the Mesopotamian court as Irsu. Take a weekend sailing trip down the Tigris and knock out the sitting King of Elam and claim that beautiful axe that strengthens Irsu's already barbaric playstyle - and you get access to those excellent units!
Now that's genuinely a pro gamer move! Hopefully you'll have fun throwing heavy rocks at people 😂
@@ReptilicusTV Enjoying the Elite Elamite Vanguard atm. Real nice to have a 2h Club charging unit that doesn't go berserk like Irsu's faction clubbers. :P
@@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll berserk is coded so weird in this game it ends up being a detriment 90 % of the time,no wonder even elite Elamites end up looking like a really good unit in comparison! The few times it procs when you want it to proc though..... 🤤
@@ReptilicusTV I find it is mostly useful to mop up routing units, lol.
@@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Yup legit had a battle yday where instead of berserk triggering at decisive flanking moments etc ( after the inner cooldown passed) it ............. TRIGGERED ONLY ON ROUTING UNITS
Im halfway through so far and i gotta ask: how badly does disabling lethality mess up balancing in your opinion? I've been playing with it off and have been having more fun because of the slower time to kill.
Playing two battles on legendary with lethality disabled would take longer than the video XD for real tho I feel it's a lot closer to the previous version minus some specific overtuned units. It does mess up the "intended" game pace.
Shall we see part 2 of the Odysseus campaign?:)
Yes! I was just VERY busy with this video. Campaigns will continue asap!
@@ReptilicusTVAppreciate your work and passion for the game!
@@Craftworld_patriot Thank you,I'm glad you enjoy what I do here! As long as the community is happy I'm happy.
I shall watch the video when I have the time
But what I like to do is just spam elite bow chariots and pincushion any who stand against me, like a true Bronze Age general
It’s very cost ineffective but who cares it’s fun
Do you think you could beat a campaign using axes only?
For sure,just gotta get a right mix of fast flankers and frontline axemen.
whats the best the chariot unit and horse unit in the game?
I'll give you a few per culture :
Chariots :
- Royal Chariot Companions ( Egypt)
- Maryannu Chariots ( Canaan)
- Royal Hittite Chariots ( Kurunta's armored Kaskian chariots are also beastly if you are not going for the Hatti throne)
- PALASTU CHARIOTS
- Thorns of Thrace for javelins,Mad mares of Thrace for heavy,both are native units,you need to conquer the region for mares.
Cavalry :
- Assur horsemasters,if you own Assur and join the Mesopotamian court. They'll murder anything.
- Cimmerian elite. They'll murder horsemasters,and anything.
Thank you my good sir. You are a pioneer 😎
Honestly I'd only rank Zagros as S-tier as no faction has comparable cavalry, in other cases these units can only be good early to mid-game (unless you are playing a faction that lacks good roster) but late game there are better alternatives.
Lovely guide but why is your image alwats SO dark? In some of your videos we can barely see the units and I spend my time on yt, yours is the only channel with this problem.
Movie filter + Terrible monitor/gfx card which is getting fixed next week.
Perfect ty!
I have a question... 🤔
Can you tell me why the AI wants to donate its points to me if I do Legitimacy Support ? I don't understand why they would want to donate its legitimacy to me since they used it as a means for civil war? It doesn't make sense...
The nice thing is that if you ask for little legitimacy they don't give it to you, if you ask for all of it, yes, while they are waging war on Pharaoh and with one click I would solve my problems.
It's bugged as hell for sure,think the next major patch will fix it.
1:23:00 I'm still here xd
Chad
Yesss!!!!
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You forgot Knossos tier 5 archers
They're in the video @ 15 mins mark or so
make the same with faction units
Will be on the way eventually
@@ReptilicusTV great
Repitilicus, is Irsu actually a proto-hebrew?
No,we don't even know anything about him beyond his title,outside of his southern Canaanite holdings. ( as it's not his full name).
btw.... im mad that im here...
ME TOO WOW WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON
Time stamps please
On the way
Bro, great video. You just got a sub and like. Would really appreciate Faction units too. I am playing Amenmesse and drowning the world with golden arrows.
I am glad you enjoyed it ! I will do a faction units breakdown soon as well. His units are amazing!
1+ hour o+o
Owo as i said,it's ultimate for a reason :D I could add more but tbf they are descriptive - it's just a question of how in depth do people wanna see.
Anyone wants ro play coop ?