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The only game I've ever gotten diamond in without a year of hard practice was TFT
the concept of "diamond" is entirely made up though, diamond in one game can be bronze in another. I think the idea of how hard it is to play catch-up is a lot less arbitrary
@@boop7441who asked
@@peterpop-off grow up
@@boop7441 absolutely incorrect - the concept of diamond is on average, the top 1% of the playerbase for that server.
To say being in the top 1% of the playerbase and it to be "made up" is comical.
You don't make it being better than 99% of every other player you can match against without it meaning something.
@@y0blue in Hearthstone and lor, the community agrees pretty much anyone can make it to diamond without much difficulty, in lor there is a metric usable to verify this claim, you can reach diamond with ~45% winrate.
currently in august, apex legends 40% of the playerbase is diamond or higher.
currently in august, 9.3% of the playerbase in valorant is diamond or higher, last month it was 11%.
In overwatch the number sits at 17.7% and in tft that number sits at around 3.6% according to july statistics.
As you can see from these numbers, diamond+ can be anywhere from "the entire playerbase agrees anyone trying will be at least this rank", to "almost half the playerbase is at least this rank", to "top 10% of the playerbase is this rank or higher" and then "in a room of 20 people that play this game you are the best at it."
hopefully i exemplified how the concept of being diamond is made the fuck up and varies from game to game.
sources: legend in hs, masters in tft and lor, search " rank distribution" for statistics cited.
What I like about TFT is that you can play like Scarra where you leverage early calculated loss into late game momentum or you can play like BoxBox and gamble on your strategy letting you carry wins into an ultimate victory and both strats are succesful.
I wanna climb TFT so that i can be taken seriously as a content creator thats one of those pressures
Hmm I sort of agree, although with game evolution information becomes much more accessible. Things that the best players had to innovate 10 years ago are easily learned through a few UA-cam videos nowadays. It's really just about your mindset and dedication to learn I'd say. I was VERY mediocre in CSGO but managed to get high Immortal after a few months of grinding Valo
As someone who climbed from plat 3 to master in less then a month i can confirm this is very much true.
Thats basically a magic chess from mobile legends
I don't believe anything this guy says as hard as this man is blinking.
The only mechanics you had to learn before was Think fast rolls but that's gone from the game now which is a good thing. There shouldn't be some checks in a game like this.
he's correct but sometimes there's that sets where some traits just incredibly broken to the point that the first one to hit that traits gets to win (unless the enemy use another broken traits)
That ac unit hard carry his play
I played LoL Summoners Rift for 5 or 6 years and my highest rank was Diamond 2. While in TFT, I started at season 5 and reached Masters at season 6 (Patch 6.5). Both fun but Summoners Rift is more Toxic ig.
TFT is really easy, I got master in my first set
I played tft since set 10 release and managed to get platinum 🎉
I’m a gold league of legends player and masters in tft so this seems pretty accurate 😂😂
I have like 20 games in tft, and i sear to god i have never won a game ever. It's so hard for me
My friend has played League for like 7 years and he is still only silver
Yes easy and LUCK based game
just need PURE LUCK to win the game
Copy paste Bard comp from the net and you can be a master in a month
no sh*t tft is more than other league games, but one of the hardest if compare to all auto chess games... the was just straight full luck based
I hit challenger in 2 weeks after I started, lol.
Very cool please show us
You probably have prior advantageous experiences. Or played in a certain meta
@@tobiasladdarn1959 I only played in set 4.
@clary lolchess link?
I play dbd and people in the game think they’re the best or top tier when they barely have any hours
TFT Consumes a lot of time tho…..
Every game takes time, especially if you wanna go pro you have to dump countless hours into the game.
Thats not right
Game is ass tho 😂😂
The thing with tft and let’s be honest. After you learn the game and always play as best as you can its still a lot of luck invloved, many people compare it to poker but its not always like that, you can fold the best game in poker but you cant someone who got lucky and got Asol 3 xd
Okay but that's not really how it works when you actually have a sample size. You have a 1/8 chance of being the high roller in any given lobby. The skill in auto battlers often isn't "who can get first the most", its about knowing when to push for 1st/2nd and when to just play for survival to make it to top 4. You don't need to beat the strongest board in the lobby, you don't need to beat the 2nd strongest or the 3rd strongest. You only need to beat the four weakest players.
Yes in an individual game, you might get hilariously unlucky and get offered like only recurve bows after a great opening for 8 Brawlers. But if you're consistently placing 5th in your lobbies, it's because you're doing something wrong, not because you're unlucky.
If you’re comparing it to poker you could say that being top 4 is easier than knowing when to fold or winning the hand. And winning the hand is the only option when you go +. Also having an insane hand in poker would be pretty similar to lucking into a 4 cost 3 star.
I can't stand TFT what a boring game
This is what happens when you give up the real game. Box Box fell so far
I mean he's right, but TFT just like his brother League takes away your soul if you're not cautious
how is TFT toxic in any way, yeah you might get "unlucky" or lose but it aint close to league toxicity
@@mateator25 True, TFT toxicity is like the little brother who tells you to "fudge off" cause he's not allowed to swear yet 🤣
@@mateator25I’m not sure if he means toxic, I think he means that you will be spending a lot of time on it and getting frustrated ext
@@mateator25as someone who chooses to mute all at the start of games, I can tell you there are people who will MAKE tft toxic 😅
@@kyleco9185how fucking good is this analogy loo
ok I’m going pro in tft now thanks boxbox
Who's gonna tell him that the price pool in tft is a joke.
@@aburriiiiiiiiiiido usually you stream as well.
@@aburriiiiiiiiiiido let's just ignore that you can't spell prize pool and say, yeah it's the begining of its pro environment, you can't expect to become a billionaire playing a 4yo game whose mother company didn't take it seriously for the first 2 years. It's growing, let em cook
See you in a year bud
Yup me too. See you at worlds lol
This was the exact video I was looking for. I wanted a competitive mobile game, and think I found exactly what I wanted.
8 años de lol y aun soy oro 😔👍
Exacto brother. Platino llegue por accidente
He's not wrong about TFT but he couldn't be more wrong about League of Legends. I know a girl who got platinum in her first year. Diamond in her second year. And Challenger in her third year. And no she was not a support main she was a top lane main
This is a great example of tfts randomness / rng.
Some games you just don't get what you need
It's all about how you can adapt to the rng
Well no not really, the game is only RNG if you dont look at the champion pool. Of course if you only know like 3 comps then it might feel RNG.
Then change your needs???
@@duranburnettwhat a dumb take the game is 100% based in rng, it's up to the player to know how to play around it. If you can't reset your board at a given notice then you won't make it far..
I started October last year and I'm master now, very true take
What tips can you give to climb?
@@DrCurvy Probably flex really hard. I dropped to diamond 4 for just playing like that in dragonlands. After learning it I got to grandmasters.
@@amarsaikhanpurevee7035 Can you specify what flex is? I hear this term but I don't get the concept
@@DrCurvy flexibility meaning what units/comp you are playing each game, you should be playing around what items you get and scouting early to avoid plaing comps that are contested by them
IMO before you should play flex work on mastering one or two comps. No point in pkaying flex if you are just going to build the wrong champs the wrong ways due to lack of game knowledge.
ANYONE can get to plat just forcing one comp well
I got to masters in 1.5 sets (started in set 6 and got to masters in 8) so yea seems pretty true
Masters isn’t challenger
@@sahvtft 1.5 sets also isnt a year
@@sahvtft 0 critical thinking skills
The progress also isn’t linear
oh man i hope i can reach masters too. strated comp in set 8 and currently i am diamond. but i did play hyper roll for a couple of sets before that
I've tried TFT so many times. I have up 2 sets ago. I cannot pivot and can't see my options fast enough. It's hard AF to me
that's because you don't "do your homework". Forcing comps is not the way to play tft, you can't force what's meta every game, there's way too many aspects, like contests, counters and generally if you get lucky enough, or if others are luckier than you. Pivoting is one of the many skills you need to be good, but the core skillsets of a tft players are economy (streaking, hp preservation/hp sacrifice, decisiomaking), awareness (positioning, scouting, griefing 3 stars / items), set knowledge (synergies,meta comps, pivoting, counters to specific comps) and champion knowledge (champion utility, itemisation). Pivoting is a skillset of set knowledge, you achieve this knowledge by doing your homework. But all these skillsets work togheter, you have to be good at all of them and evolve equally in all these skills. you can be great at pivoting but now be good at economy and when you would have a great opportunity to pivot be out of gold. Do your homework and play more.
@@adidu7907 i don't understand what "do your homework" is
@@flw01I think he means learning the fundamentals. There are some great guides here on UA-cam and they mostly transfer between each set.
Things I consider fundamentals are item and gold economy, positioning, and leveling intervals.
I usually earn econ early until 50+ and when I hit a random 4-cost/3cost carry, I build around him/her. In early stages i just play the champs that the game gives me, sometimes no synergy but a lot of 2 stars. Just don't force anything especially in early stages.
@@ericrainiermano1586what random strategy you have there. What rank are you?
Thats actually so true I hit diamond in the first set that I ever played
That’s just wrong
There are SO many examples of, for example, Fortnite kids transitioning to Valorant and doing really really well.
I don’t study this game for shit, and made diamond this season. You literally just have to Econ correctly, know when to roll down, and realize that the game is not luck based 99% of the time. Every person has bad breaks in each game, but you have a better turnout when you are taking control of the game rather than waiting till you get fcking destroyed
He’s right to a point but it’s tricky to get as good as the top players who have been playing since set 1. People easily overlook the fundamentals of tft.
Not to be impolite but what u just said about VALO is a total BS I myself have been playing Valo for like a year actively and I have beaten many excsgo players(and active players) and many others in high to highest ranks (my personal peak was immortal 2)
Nah, that's not really true for league. There are like multiple children (13-14) who are challenger and they weren't even alive when majority of the challenger players started playing league lol.
I hit masters not really playing that well, just forcing comps.
Or just be god like lucky to the point you can become challanger without knowing how to play the game
say that to the yasuo otp midlaner with 2.5 million points and is still bronze that dude is playing it for 10 years but never managed to get out of bronze i hadin my game and on top of being bad he was also toxic XDD
I mean that's not completely true. I played league in s1 and 2 quit until about 3 years ago and I'm currently sitting in masters.
Bro
Im fucking MASTER in tft and i started playing at set 8.5
Speaking Facts here haha TFT is easy to play but not easy to master but it's true that you can be chall after 3 to 4 sets
Garbage take, look at young pros in the val scene who never played csgo none of the lol rookies r season 1 payers?! Like 💀
Low skill for but high skill ceiling!! Imagine playing fast 8.
Eh not completely true about league. Csgo though yeah. I dont even know what most the stuff does. I just shoot for the head and watch angles lol
Tbh this game is not that hard. I'm finally reaching challenger after playing 1 month
This is not so much different from MLBB.. magic chess mode
Just play chess like a real man.
Just be a nice human being like a real man.
Yugioh is really easy to get good at too, or really any card game you can net deck in incase anyone was looking for an excuse to get a high rank in a game
bro this game is auto. its not like valorant or other skill-based game that you are telling
Tft a luck game just like poker any noob cn win if you know basics.
hes wrong. someone could start league now and get challenger in 2 years ez
Bro the biggest problem I had with TFT was RNG....... I mean it was kind of manageable but now that they took the maximum number of available units down for set 10 it just...... I don't know it just kind of sucks.
Like the other day I was trying to play crowd diver headliner yone And I got a 2 start yone unit on my bench And A 2 star yone headliner on board....... I kid you not a guy who had less yones than me at that point wound up getting a 3 star yone before I could And running 7 heart steel and basically blocking out my crowd diver comp with my yone carry entirely...... In previous sets you could have 2 3 cost 3 stars and that was perfect because That means you don't have to run a straight up horizontal Composition every
What sucks even more is the one cost or 2 cost Carry Compositions apparently just can never be balanced right....... For set 10 around Round 4 dash 2 All the 3 Star one cost compositions Like with a Jinx headliner Suck even if you have all of your punks at 3 star........
I just hope to God that they actually balance this set correctly. Trying to get the headliner you want from RNG is already bad enough But even if you get that headliner he might not even have the synergy youre looking for....... Meanwhile there is some dude with a full pentakill team somehow on 4 dash 2 and they are all 2 star..........
RNG is really what kills this game for me half the time. I've rolled 100 gold in a lobby at level 8 for 1 viego....... and have literally found none...... But I get every single disco unit in the game apparently when I haven't ran that the whole match. 😂
The best solution for fixing RNG is to leave the percentage values fixed at what they are for draw rates But add the 2 or 3 more units to each champion pool like it was before the set 10 patch But also guarantee champions popping up after a certain amount like loot boxes do.
Maybe it would work like the game would read you have 5 penta kill on your board And every fifth shop refresh Guarantees of synergy that's on your board to popup....... Super simple solution so I don't have to wonder if I'm going to get the single unit I need after rolling 100 gold at the highest percentage I can get that unit at.❤ 😂
For the love of God please
Sounds like you’re just low elo, making the incorrect play. Then complaining about the mistakes you’re making.
that and you just need to be top 4 to climb...
Forgot to say its a board game with 0 mechanics
im gonna be honest, anyone can be challenger in NA
Ok so he's saying this is a game with no fundamentals that you can't realistically get that good at, since you'll never be more than a year ahead of new players? Seems like a very shallow game, idk
Also this has to be 🧢. Super Smash Bros Melee is 23 years old and hasn't been patched since 2002. New players who started a few years ago are rising to the top, while we still have players who've been playing for 15+ years
As long as you learn the current Set's best builds, memorize a fair number of them, and play enough games to know when to stick with your current build and when to pivot to something else because you are being contested, I think you can climb to Challenger with enough games.
In League, you have to master so many different aspects before you can even dream of Challenger. Ya you can probably OTP to Diamond just being good at your champ, but you'll never get beyond that without understanding all the mechanics of a game such as objectives, when to team fight, matchups, tempo, item builds and counters etc.
Yea he’s right. TFT is like really the only “competitive game” I’ve ever really played that really is not competitive lmao
I just discovered that tft is rigges
Still saying its mostly luck
Im feeling so old how people arent even mentioning Starcraft anymore when it comes to high skilled games 😢.
That's simply not true, fam. Because the biggest skill in the game, Budget/Reroll and starring up doesn't change.
I introduced my friend to tft from scratch. He hit diamond in a month
Dude thats dope!
Started playing val its my first fps and im imo3 rn shooting for radiant. I only have 900 hours over the 3 years it's been out you can beat the csgo players with so many more years of experience. Tbh val is not that hard to hit the top 1% in.
Fr, I played tft just 3 times and I got the gist of it, turns out im dumb that I did not spend gold to upgrade on lvl like wtf amd I did not even know how to equip items, Im just dumb fr
theres no reaction time its just good decision making and rng. you could have luck of the gods and mess up by pivoting to void and selling your 2 kayles then getting 3 kayles and 2 poppy's show up in the next 2 rerolls. and wasting over 20 gold trying to get 3 star kayle.
Even then, it takes a crazy amount of time to climb ranks. Everyone starts at the lowest rank, which is reset every few months. Even for a challenger strength player, it will take at least 75 games just to be Diamond or Master.
Uhh all you gotta do is run tier 5 champs and lvl 2 them and you always win or get top 4. Always a viable strat and this season with A-Sol augment you level up so quick.
I agree with TFT but tell me how Serral, Clem and Maxpax are killing it with StarCraft 2 despite being so young.
i started at set 1 but never got to master just because i don't play enough, i get to gold/plat and just go play something else '-'
Bro no matter the game mode so long as it belongs to riot games there will always be something that will piss you off and it will make you rant at least once weekly (I am literally cursing riot games everytime i play runeterra or wild rift not even gonna mention league)
Not anymore lol
Nah, you can beat people who played CSGO for years if you are talented enough to improve
I started TFT 3 months ago, and I'm challenger already. And yes I do touch grass.
I unverstanden you point but there will always be the 7 year olds who beat even the Biggest pros
Don’t be fool, there’s a reason why rank 1 ladder player of previous set can always get rank 1 in later set, boxbox make it seem like everything reset and nothing carry over when there is certain muscle memory and way of thinking that definitely carries from set to set. Easy to learn, hard to master essentially
What he means is that it’s easier to learn the game and get to a high level. Not that people reset every set.
Years of LoL, peaked G1. Years of Val/CS, silver. Months of TFT, Diamond.
@@DeadJuiceboxbecause there are less players in tft, it's way easier to climb
@@Angkarpadevatyou're also entirely responsible for your rank and the mental toll of having bad team mates or toxic ones isn't there
Yeah i think if u get the basic things about economy tft is pretty simple, if u understand why u do pre lv, when u have to fuck up ure eco for hp ..... stuff like this u get me i guess. But if u got the basics about this u can learn the new set if u have a talent u can be master in the first set u played.
i started in set 7 i became plat 2 in about 40 games then in set 7.5 i became dia 1 with 70-80 games then i quit tft because this set is seems bad to me
I got masters first set I played, GM second set and Challenger 3rd set I played so yeah it's pretty easy
I mean I think he is right, I truly started playing in Set 9. Now granted I consumed a LOT of TFT content like his streams before hand, but I've gotten up to Plat 2 in a much faster time frame than I expected myself to
I mean plenty of people who started s10 hit chall in League
its true, the only thing who keep between each years of tft is generaly economy and mind gaming (but its not a hell effort to learn it)
As an emerald lol player. I have no idea wtf is going on in tft and have deleted the game twice.
Its true
in my experience, getting to the highest level in csgo is pretty easy, I agree that TFT is pretty easy to get very good at
Actually true i learned tf so quick cus my friend wanted me to play it
To be fair it depend on ppl i used to play call of duty i started playing valorant i got to radiant in eu in about 1 year
This is when there is too much luck needed to win, bad game
More like you have been practising using your brain to memorise things which is a good aspect to have in tft
As long as you master your fundementals and learn what kinds of characters are good at what kinds of times you can get master+ extremely easily
No
Also you can get challenger in one year but you have to grind and be talented
I genuinely hat current tft I'm waiting for next rotation.