I'd say Rebels are the worst on account of the AI's obsession with shooting corpses leaves them open to having entire groupa die to a single grenade. Honestly the amount of times ive seen nearly half a dozen rebels sitting around blasting a corpse with their heads all staring at me is endlessly hilarious
yeah it's a very neat detail of a faction AI's behavior but it definitely is not fun to play on Polis Massa as the rebels and just see your reinforcements plummet because of thermal detonators killing like 10 of your buddies at once.
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- Like the other guy said, Polis Massa is a CQC shitshow at the best of time with the AI, so whenever I'm playing Rebels I'm immediately running through the hallway to just avoid having my team just sitting around corpses and grenades lmao
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- I use to do this all the time. Hands down the best strategy for that map. Otherwise every fight is basically in a choke point and comes down to attrition.
This isn't pointed at the OP who made this video. They're just doing a fun comparison between the factions. But, this was during a time where people played video games for fun. The whole meta bs came along from MMOs, where they try to get every decimal point advantage out of whatever they are working on. Which makes sense for THOSE games. However! Then it started to bleed into other games, such as shooters. Like if you weren't using a specific gun in CoD that had a 0.002% faster kill rate. And that's when it got to a point where people would shit on someone and bully them (and sometimes grief them ingame) because they weren't playing the game the way they think the person should have to.
@@dangitbobbeh6420 my guy, counter-strike had been a thing for almost six years when battlefront 2 came out. meta relevance was always part of the conversation, whether it was in cs, bf1942, swbf2, cod2 or wow
@chataclysm2112 CS is different, in that it has a purposefully tiered structure. The weapons are unbalanced in performance intentionally. More expensive weapons are more expensive, because they are better in about every way on purpose. No one is going to be using the uzi when they are sitting on 15k cash. They are going to be using an AK or awp. Because those weapons do more damage, more accurate, etc. The most recent example of what I'm talking about is a meta crowd in Helldivers 2. Most weapons have been pretty well balanced in performing in what way they were built to function. Rifles at long range, shotguns are close range, etc. But Helldivers 2 is a PvE coop game and yet you can go on the Steam forums and people have reported being team-killed or kicked out of the match, because they aren't using specifically the Breaker shotgun, because that's the "meta".
The rebels have a penchant for losing, because their coded to shoot at dead imperial bodies with their secondaries until the body prop despawns. Theyll acknowledge your there, and keep shooting at the body, like literally look at you as theyre shooting
@@vandad13The Rebels in Legends weren’t as black and white as you’d think. Many times the Rebels ventured into extremely coordinated terrorism. Considering this is a Legends era game, I feel like overkilling Imperials fits their ruthlessness.
I think the Republic gunship has limited missiles because of a line in Episode 2 where a clone pilot says 'We are out of missiles' or something like that to Anakin while piloting this type of gunship. Like, they tried to stay true to the source and added it as a mechanic to the game
Another thing that I'd say gives CIS an advantage is their units have smaller frames. I don't necessarily think their hit boxes are smaller (or maybe they are?) but I think it just takes that extra millisecond to see them, especially on darker maps and at range. Was even worse on a traditional TV back in the day. Clones you can spot a mile away.
IMO 1. CIS 2 Empire 3. Republic 4. Rebels The CIS and Empire have some of the best vehicles in the game. That the developers put ATRTs up against AATs is laughable to say the least. Plus the rebels only tank has rockets that go basically everywhere except where you are aiming. Maul and Jango are the best heroes in the game in my experience. Jango’s hitscan pistol is slept on, plus with his jetpack he can escape from bad situations easier than any other blaster hero besides his son. I don’t think Palpatine is quite as bad as you give him credit for being. His lightning slam explosion thing is beastly in small rooms like you see on Jedi Temple. I’d give worst hero to Chewbacca. The remote control rockets are cool but using it is just asking to slowly lose all your health while trying to find a target. Or dying because the enemy found you while you can’t defend yourself.
That's fair, I do also think jango is pretty underrated, his pistol is a one shot kill if you land a head shot, and his time bombs are great for tanks and turrets, the empire also definitely have awesome vehicles, but yeah Chewbacca is definitely the worst hero, played the emperor a bit more recently, with his lightning and ground slam, he is pretty usable, just different
You're definitely using Palps wrong. His melee is a backup, his real weapon is force lightning. The man is basically a roided out dark trooper. Camp a corner or chokepoint and zzap entire waves of enemies. Easily the best hero that isn't 'press RMB to saber throw (win)'.
1:00 Something about the basic storm trooper shooting off center really quickly is extremely fitting considering all the jokes about them missing all the time
You’re not using the Emperor correctly. While his saber is lacking, his force lighting can net you countless kills. It’s like mauls saber but at range. CIS is def the best though. Between Droidekas, B2s, their vehicles, Maul AND Grievous… you have everything you need to wipe.
100% one of the BEST crowd control force users in the game. his jump attack is a spammable AoE on top of the fact his dash attack is an instant 100-0. Sidios always despised sabers and prefered his raw power and command of the Force, and that is perfectly reflected in how he plays.
Yes, I was using him wrong, I actually played about with him using his sprint attack, jump attack and lightning more and he's actually not half bad, lightsaber should be used as more of a blocking tool
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- yeah, I think with just how agile and overwhelming (in melee) all the other force users are, picking up Palps can feel… odd, to say the least haha.
I agree with putting the CIS faction at the top, but I tried to post on Twitter that the CIS are the best faction and Elon banned me for using a slur 💔
0:59 stormtroopers rifles have a accuracy decrease in comparison to other factions but the highest rate if fire 😱. So try to get more up close, if you can not firing in bursts should help increase your accuracy 🗿. Also the super battle droid balaster has a fire rate decrease but an accuracy increase 😱
Idk why but I actually get great results from the Imperial officer’s Sonic blaster. It’s really good for bunched up troops in tight spaces like mustafar and Tantive. I tend to treat it like a magnum type pistol. High damage but unwieldy and slow. At mid range it shines and is one of my preferred weapons to use on the Wookies. His grenade launcher outshines it in my mind but I think the sonic blaster gets a bad rap
As the emperor if you force choke and then while holding the force button alternate quickly between lightning and choking you hold the target in place and deal damage while not draining your stamina meter, its impossible to counter or break free of. The emperor is the most busted hero in the game because of that
Yes it lets your stamina meter recharge for some reason, but idk it just feels cheap, they HAVE to patch that out for online when they release the classic collection tho
Id rank them like this: 1. CIS: SBD is super accurate but blaster fires too slow for my liking. Droideka is the single best unit in the game. Darth Maul is the best Force user by far, Dooku is the worst (even worse than Palpatine imo) but only appears in one map. 2. Republic: the hero’s do a lot of lifting here. Every single Jedi is at minimum an average hero. There are no bad Jedi hero’s. Jet trooper is based. Clone trooper has the best rifle imo, fires faster than the SBD, but is less accurate. Sacrifice I’m willing to make for rate of fire. 3. Rebels: tough decision to put them below the republic for me. The Republic and Rebels would be 2A and 2B, but the reason they aren’t, is that they stand around shooting dead bodies and that the republic’s Jedi are all so good. That’s why I’m giving the edge to the Republic. 4. Empire: Stormtrooper has the fastest ROF blaster among standard infantry units but is very inaccurate. Works best in close quarters maps such as the Death Star, Tantive IV and Jabba’s Palace. Dark trooper is really good. Vader, Anakin, Emperor, and Boba Fett are the worst lineup of hero’s for any faction by far. Anakin is the only average or above hero.
The Emperor is an absolutely devastating hero if you know how to use him. Force choke is unblockable and completely disables any unit it catches, including other heroes, for the duration of the grip and a few seconds afterwards, allowing you to close the distance and get free hits with your lightsaber (his dash attack alone is enough to almost one-shot Luke). Force Lightning is a very powerful mid-range attack that damages multiple units without the cost of losing access to your saber, allowing you to switch between offence and defence safely and easily. Oh, and his jumping attack can also nuke an entire room of enemies.
Yeah tbh I was playing him badly, after experimenting with his lightning, sprint and jump attack, he's actually pretty good, lightsaber should basically be used majorly as a blocking tool
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker-the emperor is more of a force user than he is a lightsaber user which makes him a pretty weak hero for hero vs hero. But for basic troops he is insanely good
On PS2 there’s a glitch with the Rebel’s LAAT where its particle cannon/torpedos aren’t sighted correctly, and don’t shoot where you’re aiming. Which is really weird since it’s the same ship the Republic uses, and the Republic version doesn’t have that issue.
CIS main battle tank, the AAT, is my favorite ground vehicle, albeit clunky. Republic is a close second in terms of ground vehicles while the Empire is either fun on Hoth or copying Republic tanks. And rebel vehicles are somewhere between absolutely fun and trash. The rebellion cut funds on quality tanks in favor of mass peoducing rockets and spamming them all over the place. It's sheer devastation.
Palpatine certainly isn't the greatest at fighting opposing force users like luke in regular saber combat, but his lightning attack chains, and can drop very large groups of enemies really quickly, especially for how quickly you can fire off that lightning and for how little energy. Also, his groundslam attack is one of the best hero attacks mid-jump, since it can OHKO a lot of enemies at once within an area, and it's pretty spammable.
The Emperor is genuinely terrible. He's pretty much the opposite of how he is in the lore. The only thing he has going for him is a glitch where you can force choke someone, then switch to force lightning while still choking to use both at the same time.
Actually playing the empire and got the emperor as a hero and played around with that and his lighting, he's actually not awful, just different, still probably my least favourite force user tho
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- I swear I'm not linking this just to to plug hence me sending a link that starts at a later point but that slam kills nearly every class. Stamina management is key though. As you said though probably weaker than others but not bad ua-cam.com/video/zeFK5908-B0/v-deo.htmlsi=t0fwqZ2K9Q3swkP6&t=155
I wish this upcoming classic collection allowed us to have different factions going at it. Like the story did with the CIS vs the Empire, or Empire vs the Republic
Luke as the “best force user” in the game is kinda crazy to me. Especially with Maul in the exact same video, who I believe outshines Luke completely. Maul’s sprint rush can kill a lot more soldiers at once than Luke’s. And his primary attack finish has larger range of knock back than Luke’s; making for a far deadlier combatant against other force users. Force ability wise they’re the same, but dueling wise Maul takes it. Also, Han most def isn’t the best blaster user in the game 😂 Boba Fett outclasses him completely. At close range he can light you up with his flamethrower which slowly eats away at your health. At long range he and Han both have burst rounds in their guns (Han with a slightly faster fire rate), but Boba also has rockets with a small AOE. He’s instantly more versatile than Han at range and at close combat. Close range, Han only has detpacks, and considering Boba has a jet pack, the distance can be expanded very quickly to avoid any damage from it. Not to mention with the jet pack he just automatically has way better mobility than Han.
One of the best, Darth maul or Aayla Secura are definitely the best force users, good base attacks, good jump attacks, awesome sprints, saber throw (things luke has) but to give it to Secura, force pull can wreck in a 1v1
One thing that I think you downplayed was the differences in blasters between the factions. The Clone Trooper seems to have the fastest firing blaster, the Stormtrooper has the next best one, the Rebel Soldier's is noticeably worse and the Super Battle droids wrist blaster is pretty bad due to its slow fire rate.
Clones and Rebels have the same fire rate, and kill a blaster rifle wielder in 6 shots. Stormtroopers shoot faster, but deal less damage. Takes 7 shots. Super Battle Droids shoot the slowest, but take 5 shots to kill.
Really? I thought they were all the same and the 4 base units (besides the Super Battle Droid) were all the exact same. I never noticed a difference in all these years I've played 😅
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 Yeah, you can test it out if you want, or you can watch other videos and spot the difference. I only recently found that out, aha.
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- Suppose if one was to test the kill times of the SBD, Stormtrooper, and the Rebel/Clone Trooper rifles, it would be more worth mentioning. Feels like the SBD ai outguns the Clone Troopers more often than not. And as far as long range combat goes, the SBD does better, followed by the Rebel/Clone, then finally the Stormtrooper, due to different damage per shot.
Everyone also sleeps on the magnaguard's neuro posion ability too. That thing is op! If you land it on a group of enemies they're all going to die no matter how much health they have
They have my second favourite bomber after the Republic bomber, but it's a bigger target and easier to shoot at which gives the Republic bomber the advantage to me
2:45 I actually think Jango Fett is the best blaster hero in the game, not Han Solo (yay, more points for the CIS). Jango's pistol is essentially the OP award pistol. You can zoom in with it, and I think a headshot is an instant kill on anything except other heroes. And you can spam fire it SUPER quickly if you're fighting another hero or if you're dealing with a lot of enemies. I would also much rather have an ammo weapon than a cooldown-based weapon. Granted, if you're playing with the Award weapons enabled, then all the pistol units have access to this OP pistol, but still. And Jango's Time Bombs are the strongest tank buster in the game, even if they're harder to use.
Edit: Just my opinion 4 = Rebels because of missions where vehicle advantage for Empire is numerous (Endor) allow to be pinned down very early in game. Y-Wing copilot has a minigun? 3 = Clones because they are easy to spot from distance and droid sniper has better range. LAAT is good but not better than droids. 2 = Droids for they are hard to spot from distance and droidekas can solo checkpoints. Space battles are very easy for them. 1 = Empire for multiple missions where they get clear vehicle advantage, allowing very aggressive early game rushes. ATAT only vehicle in game requiring dedicated teamwork to bring down. Jawas can heal them allowing them to hold positions longer. ATST has only threats in the form of dedicated rocket teams from Rebels and traps on Endor and no way to be killed at Mos Eisley (very hard to obtain and I forget which game). In maps where vehicles don't exist, dark trooper and Palps don't need grenades to squad kill with lightning and rebel sniper doesn't get many locations to hold positions. TIE Bomber can single-handedly crush positions with bombs and fighter primary hits hardest and has fastest fire rate. Some vehicles like ATST get homing missiles for copilot. Now if teams could fight each other in what-ifs like rebels v droids defending on Hoth: 4 = Rebels 3 = Clones 2 = Empire 1 = Droids
Fair points, but despite the vehicle advantages on certain maps, endor for example, it's surprisingly easier to win as the rebels, I do agree with you otherwise, but the empire do have the worst special unit in the game, the imperial officer, which i think drags them down
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- I will agree that the officer is the worst special as he's the only one I had to look up just to remember what he did. Also, the only times I would use him was to orbital strike after rage buffing so I could actually kill something. Also, the only officer I regularly used was Otto from SW Demolition probably doesn't help much. But to be honest, Endor was always a hard map as rebels for me because of the walker and the ewoks usually got friendly-fired as I am very trigger happy. Also, I never really had issues with the troopers accuracy as I always charged groups with them.
Yes the ewoks can be easy to miss and shoot, but on the contrary they're a royal pain in the arse if you're a stormtrooper surrounded by 4 of them all knocking you all over the place with rocks
I would have a different order: 1: CIS (simply the best faction, no downside) 2: GaR (second best as the heroes are awesome too, and they are perfectly balanced) 3: Empire (for me, the dark trooper is way too overpowered, able to destroy any unit in seconds (except for vehicules). imperial commander is a useless unit, except if you love to do suicide run with scout droid Last one: Rebels. bothan spy can be good, but their range is way too short, and they can still be killed quite easily by someone that knows how to spot them. wookie warrior is nice, but its reaction time is too big, leaving it exposed to fire too often. even though rebellion has heroes that are awesome, a single dark trooper can stun lock them into a death loop quite easily.
The emporer is better in this game than the new one. Basically you use him as an arch trooper lightning crowds the saber is just your shield. When fighting a force user use force choke and then slash them before jumping back and shooting lightning if they manage to survive. Hes hit and run not a lightsaber tank like Vader.
Emperor is a monster, if you use him right. Don't rely on the normal attacks, use the lightning slams and sprint attacks. You can also fly and use lightning at the same time. Lastly, I believe he can force choke individuals, which is deadly against other heroes. Unlike Darth Vader though, you don't have to be as precise with the sprint attack to capitalize on it. I will agree that Empire is probably the worst, in terms of infantry. However, their vehicles are awesome. As for CIS, they are the ROFL stomp faction. They are seriously broken. Literally the only way you can win against them normally is because the AI doesn't use their abilities properly. One such ability is to walk around in SPACE, but they RARELY ever use this on Polis Massa...and I think they only do if they abandon their vehicles that are too damaged.
I'd say Republic personally. Their Hero selection is always a lightsaber user on each map and the special units are decent. Rebellion and CIS are great but sometimes you'll get blaster wielding heroes which are great but nowhere near as good as the force users
Given the remaster collection coming out soon, I don't want to get too imaginative since i'd rather see the core classic experience preserved first with online play, but it'd be great to see them add in cross era faction warfare to the game now that they have the chance, like droids vs imperials, rebels vs clones, or hell even clones vs Empire, they could totally do it without having to record new dialogue too since there are specific story missions in the game that do exactly that.
Yes, but without that he's kinda mid, tbh tho I have played him a bit recently and gotten better,i find it's better to use force lightning on regular troops and only use the lightsaber for blocking unless they're really close, or use sprint attacks
I think with the Emperor you need to just get good tbh. He's not like most heroes with a focus on saber combat. His strength is in his force capabilities. Really I only use his saber when multiple enemies are present just because of how much of a range he has. You bring valid points though and I respect why the Empire is last. I can tell you really love the game, though. You've found how to skillfully use wookies and clone commandos. That's where I need to get good 😂
I don't like the space terrorists, they are so boring and I wish the republic forces were stronger. But DAMN the CIS is so strong. I can't believe the B2 is the standard unit, it feels way to good. Same with the droideka, these guys are just broken hahahhah
Yeah tbh the rebels just look like regular real life military, aside from the Botham and wookie warrior at least, so are boring in comparison to the rest, But I do agree, the special units for the CIS and the SBD is busted
I didn’t know the factions have different spread for the main infantry unit, makes me sad the stormtrooper unit has worse accuracy because I really like role playing with the Empire
Droideka is so OP because of 2 things : - if u know how to play it it’s reallly good -but the biggest things is that once CSI got it, they MELT the clones like it’s not even funny 10 troopers can die on one of this guy if u don’t intervene
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- Haha yeah, no worries. Everyone is good with different people in games anyway, and I still prefer characters like Maul myself lol
That is a fair observation, I just feel like the rebel units are just slightly better for example the Botham's regeneration in a group is busted, better than the clone commanders armour buff
Here's my ranking 1: Obviously the CIS, they're so overpowered it hurts. Magnaguards are great at destroying stuff and Droidekas are both killing machines and grenade magnets, plus the infamous polis massa bonus, i love playing as Jango and Maul is super OP They also have the best bombers too 2: Empire, probably the worst ships but i love dark troopers which a lot of people underestimates it (his jet is really great for escaping grenades/spies and saving command posts), imperial officer sucks though (if only they replaced that blaster with the "Award Pistol", then maybe he'd be great), Sidious is actually pretty OP if you know what you're doing, though Boba feels like a downgraded Jango Rebels: The bothan spy is a hit or miss, they can be a huge beast or...a disaster, wookie warrior is crazy though. Luke and Han are also pretty great for hero units Republic: Hot take, but the Republic isn't that good, the commander is a bit underwhelmig and honestly i prefer BF1's Jet Trooper (they're pretty much the same, except for the EPM gun, but since BF1 is a more tactical and slow game, Jet Trooper is really handy.)
Ngl I've always loved the rebels. For starters they got the only female unit in the game via the rebel marksman, and plus i love playing with the wookiee warrior.
I agree completely but if we’re talking ai then empire is better than rebels since rebels love shooting dead bodies but base stats I agree with you completely
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker-TBF stormtrooper armor can stop blaster shots and many stormtroopers survived getting shot and was just incapacitated. The rebels gotta make sure they're dead dead lmao
@@MChief123 can it stop blaster in general or just less powerful blasters like pistols?, because the scene that show them getting up after getting shot was in the tantive 4 wich the rebels seemed to be using pistols
@@Reaver21Br from some of the description in lore it's able to stop most blasters so yeah it can stop shots from rifles. Just not the more heavy duty blasters.
If you use the E-11 properly then shot for shot it can be incredibly deadly. I find myself tapping for single shots and doing short bursts with it. Once you get yourself into a habit of shooting like that you rarely ever miss.
A lot of people don’t know that they can double shoot the dark trooper’s arc canister by using the jet pack after the first shot. If you’re on a map with a fairly low ceiling, you can literally shoot>jet pack>shoot and it’s similar to a double pump shotgun in fortnite. You need to know this for the upcoming re release. The Death Star is easily the best map to do this on
“Double pump shotgun in fortnite” Right, because obviously fortnite invented and is the only game ever to have double barreled shotguns. Don’t worry, you don’t have to tell me how old you are, I got it.
@@tempestshadow5152 You must struggle with reading comprehension. I’m not talking about a double barreled shotgun you Neanderthal. I’m talking about a double PUMP shotgun. It’s a mechanism in fortnite where you switch from one shotgun to your other shotgun to bypass the slow rate of fire. The pointer I’m giving for the dark trooper is essentially this same mechanism. You shoot the arc canister faster as the jet pack bypasses the reset on the rate of fire
@@tempestshadow5152 Maybe you’re struggling with reading comprehension at your age and that’s okay I’ll help you out. If you re-read my comment it says “double pump shotgun.” Google will explain it better but it’s basically a mechanism in fortnite where you can bypass the rate of fire on your shotgun by switching to another shotgun. This got abused and they had to take it out of the game. There is a similar mechanism with the dark trooper and that’s what I was explaining.
The Emperor has a bit of a different playstyle. One thing the emperor does have that's pretty good is the ability to block instantly while you are doing force lighting. So basically you shock your target once, then block and repeat that process until you are close enough to slash your enemy. I recommend only doing 2 slashes, the third slash is very slow and engineers and wookies can shoot you before you hit them with third swing. Also the sprint is pretty nice, since you can keep moving after a slash. If you encounter a lonely hero, you can choke and lightning them with the glitch.
You're just bad at using Palpatine. He may not fare that well against other heroes, maybe, but he's a mass killer. Lightning + flying slam attack + he can attack up to three times in a row while running. If you're good enough at managing your stamina, he's a beast and quite fun to play. At least he's not another generic force user who spams the boring and overpowered lightsaber throw. I agree that the Imperial officer fucking sucks though, it's a shame. They should've put the Red Guards into the game instead.
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- his running/dashing attack isn't that easy to aim but it's very powerful. If you don't stop running right after slashing the first enemy, you'll see you can keep spamming the attack another couple of times. In small crowded areas like Coruscant and Polis Massa he's a fucking savage, I swear.
I think the magna guard shouldn't have been in the game, instead the B2 should have been the elite unit of the CIS, and the regular trooper should have been the regular b1 droid, would have made things more balanced.
I second this. Since as a kid, I was sorta bummed out that I couldn't play as the B1 Battle droid as the main rifleman class of the game. At least it's possible to play the B1s in a couple campaign missions in the first battlefront
My favorite: 1: CIS 2: Republic 3:Empire 4:Rebel Alliance - they are easier to play than clones and stormtroopers, because they use camo - white, shining armor was a very bad idea (and best target) Also, their units are strong, but other factions have more interesting toys, vehicles and visually looks better.
This is also how I would order in terms of favour, (switch CIS with republic) but I do love the camo element with the rebels, but i do find their vehicles especially the alliance tank somewhat lackluster
I question sbd's being the best trooper unit actually. Sure they go hard offensively when they do, but defensively its probably the safest and easiest unit to headshot in the entire game. Their head being in their torso makes it childsplay to hit and thier wristrockets being a linear attack makes them rather predictable and only really good at chokepoints.
If the CIS ain't number one if he's talking most op or powerful than this video is cap. Specially in the first battlefront the CIS droidekas where crazy and they always won
True if you don't help out your team, the CIS wins every map, even with serious handicaps like droidekas blowing up in the water of Kashyyyk it's still an ez clap for them.
Informative vid ! Once i told a guy who went 13-0 I would go deathless the next round..they said I wouldn't..if I recall. The more kills you get. The stronger your unit becomes..but you have to give the hero to someone else. I went 98-0 😎. Cant wait to experience this game again..and I may be the only person buying it regardless of all the nitpickin'.
I'd say Rebels are the worst on account of the AI's obsession with shooting corpses leaves them open to having entire groupa die to a single grenade. Honestly the amount of times ive seen nearly half a dozen rebels sitting around blasting a corpse with their heads all staring at me is endlessly hilarious
yeah it's a very neat detail of a faction AI's behavior but it definitely is not fun to play on Polis Massa as the rebels and just see your reinforcements plummet because of thermal detonators killing like 10 of your buddies at once.
Yeah that's a fair point, they just casually desecrate the dead lmao
Yeah, especially if the thermal detonator gets a direct hit and sticks at waist level on a group of like 5 rebels
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- Like the other guy said, Polis Massa is a CQC shitshow at the best of time with the AI, so whenever I'm playing Rebels I'm immediately running through the hallway to just avoid having my team just sitting around corpses and grenades lmao
another win for the confederacy of indipendant systems
"we must win 🤖"
The fact droids can go out in Polis massa space and take no damage from it is HUGE. Easy flanks
Yes you could take like 4 droids with you and take their back commend post and attack them from 2 fronts
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- I use to do this all the time. Hands down the best strategy for that map. Otherwise every fight is basically in a choke point and comes down to attrition.
I hope you take it as the very best of compliments when I say that your video gives off youtube 2008 vibes, and I love it. Subbed
Glad you like the vibe, loved UA-cam back then, I take It as an absolute compliment 👌🙏
First time I’ve seen the discussion of META in the old BF games
This isn't pointed at the OP who made this video. They're just doing a fun comparison between the factions.
But, this was during a time where people played video games for fun.
The whole meta bs came along from MMOs, where they try to get every decimal point advantage out of whatever they are working on. Which makes sense for THOSE games.
However! Then it started to bleed into other games, such as shooters. Like if you weren't using a specific gun in CoD that had a 0.002% faster kill rate.
And that's when it got to a point where people would shit on someone and bully them (and sometimes grief them ingame) because they weren't playing the game the way they think the person should have to.
Just play the game and have fun
No one cared back then
@@dangitbobbeh6420 my guy, counter-strike had been a thing for almost six years when battlefront 2 came out. meta relevance was always part of the conversation, whether it was in cs, bf1942, swbf2, cod2 or wow
@@dangitbobbeh6420 I disagree. Halo 2 and Smash Bros Melee very much had a meta people used it just wasn't as much of a hot topic as it is today
@chataclysm2112 CS is different, in that it has a purposefully tiered structure. The weapons are unbalanced in performance intentionally. More expensive weapons are more expensive, because they are better in about every way on purpose. No one is going to be using the uzi when they are sitting on 15k cash. They are going to be using an AK or awp. Because those weapons do more damage, more accurate, etc.
The most recent example of what I'm talking about is a meta crowd in Helldivers 2. Most weapons have been pretty well balanced in performing in what way they were built to function. Rifles at long range, shotguns are close range, etc.
But Helldivers 2 is a PvE coop game and yet you can go on the Steam forums and people have reported being team-killed or kicked out of the match, because they aren't using specifically the Breaker shotgun, because that's the "meta".
I am pretty sure Gunships have limited rocket ammo cos of that one line in Attack of the Clones: "We're out of Rockets Sir!"
I believe that CIS also have by far the best bomber in the game, while rebels have by far the worst one.
That Hyena Bomber is one of the best ships in any multi-player game 💣
@@SquibbeyJenkins when I play republic or rebels on space - I always invade enemy hangar to steal CIS and imp bomber.
Yeah the rebel bomber is mid, but personally I prefer the Republic bomber
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- cuz shotgun main weapon?
It’s cool that this game is more about lore accuracy than balance
It actually is, and it's really unique in that sense alone, there's truly nothing like the original battlefront games
True but bomber V-wing is a bit annoying.
@@AAhmouget over it, this was in 2005
I think you downplayed just how good the CIS are in Galactic Conquest since they start with SBD's for free
I am aware of this, I am working on a video where I played galactic conquest as the Republic without any other units or bonuses, they're a pain
Rebelion is the dumbest faction in the game.
Tbh used to think that, but they're actually kinda neat, probably the most overlooked faction in my opinion
Until you play online and remember wookies and pies are a thing
Yeah they're dangerous af
Wookies and Bothan spies are the worst classes. It is truly the worst faction in the game, I still love them tho.
I always liked the spies . Not playing as them though, I just thought having a guy who gave you a healing factor for a little while was super handy
Respect for calling the Rebels space terrorists
to be fair the empire deserves it
I think I’m the only person on earth that likes the empire
Doesn't the CIS also have the passive buff of not taking damage on the outside part of polis massa?
Yes, as shown when I blew up an AAT as the manga guard, cool detail as they don't have to breathe
I personally like the droids and the clones
Same, clone wars > galactic civil war
The rebels have a penchant for losing, because their coded to shoot at dead imperial bodies with their secondaries until the body prop despawns. Theyll acknowledge your there, and keep shooting at the body, like literally look at you as theyre shooting
That’s an odd trait to give to your hero/good guy faction
@@vandad13Their hatred for the Empire runs deep lol
@@vandad13The Rebels in Legends weren’t as black and white as you’d think. Many times the Rebels ventured into extremely coordinated terrorism. Considering this is a Legends era game, I feel like overkilling Imperials fits their ruthlessness.
CIS absolutely destroys other factions in BF1 and 2. The Droideka is just too much, insanely overpowered.
Droidekas are so fun. I remember them so much as a kid, on both sides haha. CIS is obviously number one😎
Yeahh the CIS are overpowered, I'd like to play them against the Rebellion or the empire tbh
CIS thanks you for such a high rating
The CIS have me welcome
I think the Republic gunship has limited missiles because of a line in Episode 2 where a clone pilot says 'We are out of missiles' or something like that to Anakin while piloting this type of gunship. Like, they tried to stay true to the source and added it as a mechanic to the game
That would be ridiculous but funny if true. Maybe it’s to encourage people to actually land in the enemy hangar.
That's pretty cool actually, kinda like how Anakin never meets with Grevous in the clone wars because of one line in revenge of the sith
Another thing that I'd say gives CIS an advantage is their units have smaller frames. I don't necessarily think their hit boxes are smaller (or maybe they are?) but I think it just takes that extra millisecond to see them, especially on darker maps and at range. Was even worse on a traditional TV back in the day. Clones you can spot a mile away.
Yeahhh the B1 droids are quite skeletal
IMO
1. CIS
2 Empire
3. Republic
4. Rebels
The CIS and Empire have some of the best vehicles in the game. That the developers put ATRTs up against AATs is laughable to say the least. Plus the rebels only tank has rockets that go basically everywhere except where you are aiming. Maul and Jango are the best heroes in the game in my experience. Jango’s hitscan pistol is slept on, plus with his jetpack he can escape from bad situations easier than any other blaster hero besides his son. I don’t think Palpatine is quite as bad as you give him credit for being. His lightning slam explosion thing is beastly in small rooms like you see on Jedi Temple. I’d give worst hero to Chewbacca. The remote control rockets are cool but using it is just asking to slowly lose all your health while trying to find a target. Or dying because the enemy found you while you can’t defend yourself.
That's fair, I do also think jango is pretty underrated, his pistol is a one shot kill if you land a head shot, and his time bombs are great for tanks and turrets, the empire also definitely have awesome vehicles, but yeah Chewbacca is definitely the worst hero, played the emperor a bit more recently, with his lightning and ground slam, he is pretty usable, just different
CIS for the win. They are the best faction in the game.
roger roger
Absolutely, and it's not even close, especially since they go against the Republic
You're definitely using Palps wrong. His melee is a backup, his real weapon is force lightning. The man is basically a roided out dark trooper. Camp a corner or chokepoint and zzap entire waves of enemies. Easily the best hero that isn't 'press RMB to saber throw (win)'.
Yeahhhh this is the 100th time I've been told this. I must get a palpatine video out soon and correct this XD
Also, don’t forget that jump hover and slam lightning move. Legions born and died by that move.
Jeez didn't know the Radiation Launcher was so good
It is, it's always a 1 shot on soldiers and messes up tanks
1:00 Something about the basic storm trooper shooting off center really quickly is extremely fitting considering all the jokes about them missing all the time
It is, it's so cool that each factions basic Trooper has accuracy accustomed to what their aim is like in the movies and such, amazing detail
The combination of lofi beats, gameplay footage, and pretty funny commentary with no voice just text was a vibe gotta say
Awesome, glad you could vibe with it 👌
You’re not using the Emperor correctly. While his saber is lacking, his force lighting can net you countless kills. It’s like mauls saber but at range.
CIS is def the best though. Between Droidekas, B2s, their vehicles, Maul AND Grievous… you have everything you need to wipe.
100% one of the BEST crowd control force users in the game. his jump attack is a spammable AoE on top of the fact his dash attack is an instant 100-0. Sidios always despised sabers and prefered his raw power and command of the Force, and that is perfectly reflected in how he plays.
I think Jango fett is the best hero in the CIS. if used correctly he rips
@@RONALDDELPERidk about best. Maybe beast non force user. I do think he is def better than Han.
Yes, I was using him wrong, I actually played about with him using his sprint attack, jump attack and lightning more and he's actually not half bad, lightsaber should be used as more of a blocking tool
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- yeah, I think with just how agile and overwhelming (in melee) all the other force users are, picking up Palps can feel… odd, to say the least haha.
I agree with putting the CIS faction at the top, but I tried to post on Twitter that the CIS are the best faction and Elon banned me for using a slur 💔
Those were the days. When CIS meant Confederacy of Independent Systems and CP meant Command Post.
Bruh that is tragic, it's ok this is a safe place to express your thoughts on the Confederacy Of Independent Systems
@hermos3602 too right buddy
0:59 stormtroopers rifles have a accuracy decrease in comparison to other factions but the highest rate if fire 😱. So try to get more up close, if you can not firing in bursts should help increase your accuracy 🗿. Also the super battle droid balaster has a fire rate decrease but an accuracy increase 😱
Yes bursts of 3-5 are good, but it's soo awesome that they added the accuracy details for each faction
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- yes storm trooper accuracy is bad just like the movies 💀
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- unfortunately though I don't think there's a difference in the republic and rebel rifles expect the appearance 🗿
Idk why but I actually get great results from the Imperial officer’s Sonic blaster. It’s really good for bunched up troops in tight spaces like mustafar and Tantive. I tend to treat it like a magnum type pistol. High damage but unwieldy and slow. At mid range it shines and is one of my preferred weapons to use on the Wookies. His grenade launcher outshines it in my mind but I think the sonic blaster gets a bad rap
As the emperor if you force choke and then while holding the force button alternate quickly between lightning and choking you hold the target in place and deal damage while not draining your stamina meter, its impossible to counter or break free of. The emperor is the most busted hero in the game because of that
Dooku can also do this.
Yes it lets your stamina meter recharge for some reason, but idk it just feels cheap, they HAVE to patch that out for online when they release the classic collection tho
Yes, Dooku is probably my favourite force user in the game tbh, it's a crying shame he's only playable on Geonosis and hero assault
Just like the reboot
Id rank them like this:
1. CIS: SBD is super accurate but blaster fires too slow for my liking. Droideka is the single best unit in the game. Darth Maul is the best Force user by far, Dooku is the worst (even worse than Palpatine imo) but only appears in one map.
2. Republic: the hero’s do a lot of lifting here. Every single Jedi is at minimum an average hero. There are no bad Jedi hero’s. Jet trooper is based. Clone trooper has the best rifle imo, fires faster than the SBD, but is less accurate. Sacrifice I’m willing to make for rate of fire.
3. Rebels: tough decision to put them below the republic for me. The Republic and Rebels would be 2A and 2B, but the reason they aren’t, is that they stand around shooting dead bodies and that the republic’s Jedi are all so good. That’s why I’m giving the edge to the Republic.
4. Empire: Stormtrooper has the fastest ROF blaster among standard infantry units but is very inaccurate. Works best in close quarters maps such as the Death Star, Tantive IV and Jabba’s Palace. Dark trooper is really good. Vader, Anakin, Emperor, and Boba Fett are the worst lineup of hero’s for any faction by far. Anakin is the only average or above hero.
That's fair tbh, the corpse shooting and the Republic always having good heros are good points , they're always lightsaber heroes as well im sure
Palpatine has an unblockable force choke for 1v1s, and Lightning for decent crowd control. But yeah, he’s not the best.
I know he's good, I was just playing him like an idiot, I played him more now he's actually pretty good :(
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- i wonder if the battlefront collection is going to do anything with the force choke. i can’t imagine that going well online lol
Maul is also the best saber hero in the game with his throw hitbox being so wide as it is.
“Stormtroopers also seem to shoot off center”. That’s not a con. That’s a massive pro for the game having lore accurate stormtroopers.
Kinda sucks for balancing tho.
Also the B1 battle droids of the CIS (heavy, enginer, sniper and marine) have a smaller hitbox compare to their counterparts.
Honestly only just remembered how much harder to headshot B1's
I kinda agree
Darth Maul was just always s beast when you were using him.
Also CIS had the best bomber out of all the factions. I loved it so much.
The Emperor is an absolutely devastating hero if you know how to use him. Force choke is unblockable and completely disables any unit it catches, including other heroes, for the duration of the grip and a few seconds afterwards, allowing you to close the distance and get free hits with your lightsaber (his dash attack alone is enough to almost one-shot Luke). Force Lightning is a very powerful mid-range attack that damages multiple units without the cost of losing access to your saber, allowing you to switch between offence and defence safely and easily.
Oh, and his jumping attack can also nuke an entire room of enemies.
Yeah tbh I was playing him badly, after experimenting with his lightning, sprint and jump attack, he's actually pretty good, lightsaber should basically be used majorly as a blocking tool
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker-the emperor is more of a force user than he is a lightsaber user which makes him a pretty weak hero for hero vs hero. But for basic troops he is insanely good
The emperor has the best jump attack in the game. A complete AOE that devastates everybody!😂
On PS2 there’s a glitch with the Rebel’s LAAT where its particle cannon/torpedos aren’t sighted correctly, and don’t shoot where you’re aiming. Which is really weird since it’s the same ship the Republic uses, and the Republic version doesn’t have that issue.
That's pretty interesting, I wouldn't know about this because I never played the rebels when I was a kid on PS2
CIS main battle tank, the AAT, is my favorite ground vehicle, albeit clunky. Republic is a close second in terms of ground vehicles while the Empire is either fun on Hoth or copying Republic tanks. And rebel vehicles are somewhere between absolutely fun and trash. The rebellion cut funds on quality tanks in favor of mass peoducing rockets and spamming them all over the place. It's sheer devastation.
That's fair enough, I do agree with that, but the AAT is definitely the best standard tank unit
Palpatine certainly isn't the greatest at fighting opposing force users like luke in regular saber combat, but his lightning attack chains, and can drop very large groups of enemies really quickly, especially for how quickly you can fire off that lightning and for how little energy. Also, his groundslam attack is one of the best hero attacks mid-jump, since it can OHKO a lot of enemies at once within an area, and it's pretty spammable.
Droideka and B2 combo for the CIS is just unfair with the clones. But GAR is the favorite
Yeah droidekas are absolutely busted, but nothing a detpack and circling with a shotgun can't fix, FOR THE REPUBLIC
The Emperor is genuinely terrible. He's pretty much the opposite of how he is in the lore. The only thing he has going for him is a glitch where you can force choke someone, then switch to force lightning while still choking to use both at the same time.
yeah i mean you kinda have to abuse force powers as emperor, which is also lore accurate!
The rebels are visually unappealing, but CIS is definitely the best.
Yeah rebels are basically designed like realistic military, which compared to clone troopers stormtroopers and battle droids is kinda meh
I like how the Rebels have so many unique uniforms for different planets
For the emperor try relying on his lightning slam
Actually playing the empire and got the emperor as a hero and played around with that and his lighting, he's actually not awful, just different, still probably my least favourite force user tho
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- I swear I'm not linking this just to to plug hence me sending a link that starts at a later point but that slam kills nearly every class. Stamina management is key though. As you said though probably weaker than others but not bad ua-cam.com/video/zeFK5908-B0/v-deo.htmlsi=t0fwqZ2K9Q3swkP6&t=155
The CIS is also op in the first game.
I wish this upcoming classic collection allowed us to have different factions going at it. Like the story did with the CIS vs the Empire, or Empire vs the Republic
For real, like even if they add it a few months down the line as paid DLC I'd be overjoyed at that
Luke as the “best force user” in the game is kinda crazy to me. Especially with Maul in the exact same video, who I believe outshines Luke completely. Maul’s sprint rush can kill a lot more soldiers at once than Luke’s. And his primary attack finish has larger range of knock back than Luke’s; making for a far deadlier combatant against other force users. Force ability wise they’re the same, but dueling wise Maul takes it.
Also, Han most def isn’t the best blaster user in the game 😂 Boba Fett outclasses him completely. At close range he can light you up with his flamethrower which slowly eats away at your health. At long range he and Han both have burst rounds in their guns (Han with a slightly faster fire rate), but Boba also has rockets with a small AOE. He’s instantly more versatile than Han at range and at close combat. Close range, Han only has detpacks, and considering Boba has a jet pack, the distance can be expanded very quickly to avoid any damage from it. Not to mention with the jet pack he just automatically has way better mobility than Han.
One of the best, Darth maul or Aayla Secura are definitely the best force users, good base attacks, good jump attacks, awesome sprints, saber throw (things luke has) but to give it to Secura, force pull can wreck in a 1v1
One thing that I think you downplayed was the differences in blasters between the factions. The Clone Trooper seems to have the fastest firing blaster, the Stormtrooper has the next best one, the Rebel Soldier's is noticeably worse and the Super Battle droids wrist blaster is pretty bad due to its slow fire rate.
Clones and Rebels have the same fire rate, and kill a blaster rifle wielder in 6 shots.
Stormtroopers shoot faster, but deal less damage. Takes 7 shots.
Super Battle Droids shoot the slowest, but take 5 shots to kill.
Really? I thought they were all the same and the 4 base units (besides the Super Battle Droid) were all the exact same. I never noticed a difference in all these years I've played 😅
Slight differences yes, but I thought the only one worth mentioning was the tri-shot
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 Yeah, you can test it out if you want, or you can watch other videos and spot the difference. I only recently found that out, aha.
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- Suppose if one was to test the kill times of the SBD, Stormtrooper, and the Rebel/Clone Trooper rifles, it would be more worth mentioning.
Feels like the SBD ai outguns the Clone Troopers more often than not. And as far as long range combat goes, the SBD does better, followed by the Rebel/Clone, then finally the Stormtrooper, due to different damage per shot.
Everyone also sleeps on the magnaguard's neuro posion ability too. That thing is op! If you land it on a group of enemies they're all going to die no matter how much health they have
I also remember the CIS having the best bomber ships, though maybe that was just personal preference?
They have my second favourite bomber after the Republic bomber, but it's a bigger target and easier to shoot at which gives the Republic bomber the advantage to me
isnt republic bomber the one with worst weapon?
@@qsfff5099Nah the hitscan shock cannons were OP
Always loved the CIS's aesthetic and they have the best vehicles
Ive unironicly only ever played the CIS theyre so fun😌
That's fair, they are really fun to play, they're just so powerful and awesome visually
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- yeah!
2:45 I actually think Jango Fett is the best blaster hero in the game, not Han Solo (yay, more points for the CIS). Jango's pistol is essentially the OP award pistol. You can zoom in with it, and I think a headshot is an instant kill on anything except other heroes. And you can spam fire it SUPER quickly if you're fighting another hero or if you're dealing with a lot of enemies. I would also much rather have an ammo weapon than a cooldown-based weapon.
Granted, if you're playing with the Award weapons enabled, then all the pistol units have access to this OP pistol, but still.
And Jango's Time Bombs are the strongest tank buster in the game, even if they're harder to use.
That's fair, however Jango has limited ammo, which has stumped me on a couple occasions, but time bombs are absolutely great for tanks
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- The fetts randomly having limited ammo when none of the other blaster heroes suffer from that is weird
Edit: Just my opinion
4 = Rebels because of missions where vehicle advantage for Empire is numerous (Endor) allow to be pinned down very early in game. Y-Wing copilot has a minigun?
3 = Clones because they are easy to spot from distance and droid sniper has better range. LAAT is good but not better than droids.
2 = Droids for they are hard to spot from distance and droidekas can solo checkpoints. Space battles are very easy for them.
1 = Empire for multiple missions where they get clear vehicle advantage, allowing very aggressive early game rushes. ATAT only vehicle in game requiring dedicated teamwork to bring down. Jawas can heal them allowing them to hold positions longer. ATST has only threats in the form of dedicated rocket teams from Rebels and traps on Endor and no way to be killed at Mos Eisley (very hard to obtain and I forget which game). In maps where vehicles don't exist, dark trooper and Palps don't need grenades to squad kill with lightning and rebel sniper doesn't get many locations to hold positions. TIE Bomber can single-handedly crush positions with bombs and fighter primary hits hardest and has fastest fire rate. Some vehicles like ATST get homing missiles for copilot.
Now if teams could fight each other in what-ifs like rebels v droids defending on Hoth:
4 = Rebels
3 = Clones
2 = Empire
1 = Droids
Fair points, but despite the vehicle advantages on certain maps, endor for example, it's surprisingly easier to win as the rebels, I do agree with you otherwise, but the empire do have the worst special unit in the game, the imperial officer, which i think drags them down
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- I will agree that the officer is the worst special as he's the only one I had to look up just to remember what he did. Also, the only times I would use him was to orbital strike after rage buffing so I could actually kill something. Also, the only officer I regularly used was Otto from SW Demolition probably doesn't help much. But to be honest, Endor was always a hard map as rebels for me because of the walker and the ewoks usually got friendly-fired as I am very trigger happy. Also, I never really had issues with the troopers accuracy as I always charged groups with them.
Yes the ewoks can be easy to miss and shoot, but on the contrary they're a royal pain in the arse if you're a stormtrooper surrounded by 4 of them all knocking you all over the place with rocks
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- I will admit it has happened on occasion.
Whenever I play empire it always happens at least a handful of times
I would have a different order:
1: CIS (simply the best faction, no downside)
2: GaR (second best as the heroes are awesome too, and they are perfectly balanced)
3: Empire (for me, the dark trooper is way too overpowered, able to destroy any unit in seconds (except for vehicules). imperial commander is a useless unit, except if you love to do suicide run with scout droid
Last one: Rebels. bothan spy can be good, but their range is way too short, and they can still be killed quite easily by someone that knows how to spot them. wookie warrior is nice, but its reaction time is too big, leaving it exposed to fire too often. even though rebellion has heroes that are awesome, a single dark trooper can stun lock them into a death loop quite easily.
I do agree with you, but the Wookie warrior and Botham spy (especially with his regeneration effect) put the Rebels above the Republic for me
Man wish they just supplied the imperial officer with a pistol that'll take longer to overheat rather than it made in geonosis for some odd reason.
Yeah or even a shotgun or something, anything but that crappy sonic blaster
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- yeah but the shotgun is used by engineers maybe supply them with a burst smg would've been way fun.
The emporer is better in this game than the new one. Basically you use him as an arch trooper lightning crowds the saber is just your shield. When fighting a force user use force choke and then slash them before jumping back and shooting lightning if they manage to survive. Hes hit and run not a lightsaber tank like Vader.
Fair points but the only way I can really play him if I ever do is by abusing the force choke ability and sprint attacking groups of soldiers
Emperor is a monster, if you use him right. Don't rely on the normal attacks, use the lightning slams and sprint attacks. You can also fly and use lightning at the same time. Lastly, I believe he can force choke individuals, which is deadly against other heroes. Unlike Darth Vader though, you don't have to be as precise with the sprint attack to capitalize on it. I will agree that Empire is probably the worst, in terms of infantry. However, their vehicles are awesome.
As for CIS, they are the ROFL stomp faction. They are seriously broken. Literally the only way you can win against them normally is because the AI doesn't use their abilities properly. One such ability is to walk around in SPACE, but they RARELY ever use this on Polis Massa...and I think they only do if they abandon their vehicles that are too damaged.
I'd say Republic personally. Their Hero selection is always a lightsaber user on each map and the special units are decent. Rebellion and CIS are great but sometimes you'll get blaster wielding heroes which are great but nowhere near as good as the force users
That's actually a really good point, can still absolutely tear through with a blaster hero tho if your aim's good
Cis has always been the best faction since the original battlefront.
Definitely, they absolutely kick ass
Given the remaster collection coming out soon, I don't want to get too imaginative since i'd rather see the core classic experience preserved first with online play, but it'd be great to see them add in cross era faction warfare to the game now that they have the chance, like droids vs imperials, rebels vs clones, or hell even clones vs Empire, they could totally do it without having to record new dialogue too since there are specific story missions in the game that do exactly that.
Yeah I would LOVE cross era, I've wanted that ever since I first played it on PS2 when i was like 8, would be dream come true
I think about this. How that attack of the clones line: "We are out of rockets sir" is the reason why Republic gunships are limited on missles
That's actually kinda hilarious, kinda like how in the clone wars anakin never meets with Grevous because of one line from revenge of the sith
exactly lol @@Dankakin-SkyWalker-
force choke and change to lighting, emperor can solo anyone
Yes, but without that he's kinda mid, tbh tho I have played him a bit recently and gotten better,i find it's better to use force lightning on regular troops and only use the lightsaber for blocking unless they're really close, or use sprint attacks
@Dankakin-SkyWalker- I like to spam his unique "air attack", if someone survives I use the lightsaber
I think with the Emperor you need to just get good tbh. He's not like most heroes with a focus on saber combat. His strength is in his force capabilities. Really I only use his saber when multiple enemies are present just because of how much of a range he has. You bring valid points though and I respect why the Empire is last.
I can tell you really love the game, though. You've found how to skillfully use wookies and clone commandos. That's where I need to get good 😂
I don't like the space terrorists, they are so boring and I wish the republic forces were stronger. But DAMN the CIS is so strong. I can't believe the B2 is the standard unit, it feels way to good. Same with the droideka, these guys are just broken hahahhah
Yeah tbh the rebels just look like regular real life military, aside from the Botham and wookie warrior at least, so are boring in comparison to the rest,
But I do agree, the special units for the CIS and the SBD is busted
darth mail was so fun to play at mustafar
Darth mail goes hard as frick
But yeah you can win by getting all the command posts easily on Mustafar with him
I didn’t know the factions have different spread for the main infantry unit, makes me sad the stormtrooper unit has worse accuracy because I really like role playing with the Empire
I think it's neat, but somewhat unbalanced
Droideka is so OP because of 2 things :
- if u know how to play it it’s reallly good
-but the biggest things is that once CSI got it, they MELT the clones like it’s not even funny 10 troopers can die on one of this guy if u don’t intervene
Yeah they are lethal, but they do tend to get grenade spammed
Jet Troopers can take down rollies pretty easy
Droidekas are so fun. I remember them so much as a kid, on both sides haha. CIS is obviously number one😎
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- that’s true but the amount of soldiers you loose in battle when they unlock them is crazy
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 most strong army for sure
The emperor has the best jump attack in the game. A complete AOE that devastates everybody!😂
I know I've now said 100 times the emperor is good I was just crap 😂
Might make an emperor centered video at some stage to address this, it seems I've caused a disturbance in the force
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- Haha yeah, no worries. Everyone is good with different people in games anyway, and I still prefer characters like Maul myself lol
Can you rank each faction classes and explain which and why it's better
That's actually a neat idea, when that video gets made I'll credit you for the idea 👍
Rebels have good uniques, but I still think the tactical mobility of jet trooper and the clone commander NOT being a bad unit makes the clones #2
That is a fair observation, I just feel like the rebel units are just slightly better for example the Botham's regeneration in a group is busted, better than the clone commanders armour buff
Brilliant video - CIS supremacy! I can't wait to replay Classic Battlefront / Battlefront II when the collection comes out
Glad you enjoyed, me too can't wait for the classic collection 👌
Have you seen my Extra OP CIS mod for this game? It's the truth the repooblic doesn't want you to see!
No I have not, but an extra op mod was the last thing the CIS necessaries needed XD
Empire and CIS have the best vehicles in my opinion. AT-AT for the win!!
Oh definitely, the AT-AT is busted
Empire actually my favorite faction lol
In online rankins would be different, pretty much polar oposite imo
Perhaps, but I still think CIS would win most of the time, especially if they have a good player playing Darth Maul or General Grevous
Here's my ranking
1: Obviously the CIS, they're so overpowered it hurts. Magnaguards are great at destroying stuff and Droidekas are both killing machines and grenade magnets, plus the infamous polis massa bonus, i love playing as Jango and Maul is super OP
They also have the best bombers too
2: Empire, probably the worst ships but i love dark troopers which a lot of people underestimates it (his jet is really great for escaping grenades/spies and saving command posts), imperial officer sucks though (if only they replaced that blaster with the "Award Pistol", then maybe he'd be great), Sidious is actually pretty OP if you know what you're doing, though Boba feels like a downgraded Jango
Rebels: The bothan spy is a hit or miss, they can be a huge beast or...a disaster, wookie warrior is crazy though. Luke and Han are also pretty great for hero units
Republic: Hot take, but the Republic isn't that good, the commander is a bit underwhelmig and honestly i prefer BF1's Jet Trooper (they're pretty much the same, except for the EPM gun, but since BF1 is a more tactical and slow game, Jet Trooper is really handy.)
That's fair tbh, but I agree the dark trooper does give you a huge advantage as the empire, and Boba is just a worse Jango I agree
Ngl I've always loved the rebels. For starters they got the only female unit in the game via the rebel marksman, and plus i love playing with the wookiee warrior.
Tbh it's only recently I started to appreciate them, as a kid I always preferred the empire because their armour was badass
Hello.
I enjoyed the music and on-screen text. It's a good change from ADHD personalities.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
"inhales": FOR THE REPUBLIC!!!
"ELIMINATE THE AAT!!!"
Loving the content 👍🏻 better than most UA-camrs
Thanks very much, hope you'll stick around 🤌
I agree completely but if we’re talking ai then empire is better than rebels since rebels love shooting dead bodies but base stats I agree with you completely
Kinda funny how the rebels are supposed to be the good guys, and then proceed to desecrate the dead
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker-TBF stormtrooper armor can stop blaster shots and many stormtroopers survived getting shot and was just incapacitated. The rebels gotta make sure they're dead dead lmao
@@MChief123 can it stop blaster in general or just less powerful blasters like pistols?, because the scene that show them getting up after getting shot was in the tantive 4 wich the rebels seemed to be using pistols
@@Reaver21Br from some of the description in lore it's able to stop most blasters so yeah it can stop shots from rifles. Just not the more heavy duty blasters.
If you use the E-11 properly then shot for shot it can be incredibly deadly. I find myself tapping for single shots and doing short bursts with it. Once you get yourself into a habit of shooting like that you rarely ever miss.
LMAO Empire last? You did not grow up with this game at it's height 🥴
I don't dislike the empire, I just think objectively they're not as good as the other factions
PS - This was one of the first games I ever played
The Empire is not that good dude
Didn't ask @@FrostbiteDigital
A lot of people don’t know that they can double shoot the dark trooper’s arc canister by using the jet pack after the first shot. If you’re on a map with a fairly low ceiling, you can literally shoot>jet pack>shoot and it’s similar to a double pump shotgun in fortnite. You need to know this for the upcoming re release. The Death Star is easily the best map to do this on
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“Double pump shotgun in fortnite” Right, because obviously fortnite invented and is the only game ever to have double barreled shotguns. Don’t worry, you don’t have to tell me how old you are, I got it.
@@tempestshadow5152 You must struggle with reading comprehension. I’m not talking about a double barreled shotgun you Neanderthal. I’m talking about a double PUMP shotgun.
It’s a mechanism in fortnite where you switch from one shotgun to your other shotgun to bypass the slow rate of fire. The pointer I’m giving for the dark trooper is essentially this same mechanism. You shoot the arc canister faster as the jet pack bypasses the reset on the rate of fire
@@tempestshadow5152 Maybe you’re struggling with reading comprehension at your age and that’s okay I’ll help you out. If you re-read my comment it says “double pump shotgun.” Google will explain it better but it’s basically a mechanism in fortnite where you can bypass the rate of fire on your shotgun by switching to another shotgun.
This got abused and they had to take it out of the game. There is a similar mechanism with the dark trooper and that’s what I was explaining.
The Emperor has a bit of a different playstyle.
One thing the emperor does have that's pretty good is the ability to block instantly while you are doing force lighting.
So basically you shock your target once, then block and repeat that process until you are close enough to slash your enemy.
I recommend only doing 2 slashes, the third slash is very slow and engineers and wookies can shoot you before you hit them with third swing.
Also the sprint is pretty nice, since you can keep moving after a slash.
If you encounter a lonely hero, you can choke and lightning them with the glitch.
You're just bad at using Palpatine. He may not fare that well against other heroes, maybe, but he's a mass killer. Lightning + flying slam attack + he can attack up to three times in a row while running. If you're good enough at managing your stamina, he's a beast and quite fun to play. At least he's not another generic force user who spams the boring and overpowered lightsaber throw.
I agree that the Imperial officer fucking sucks though, it's a shame. They should've put the Red Guards into the game instead.
Tbh I see that, i have tried playing him utilising lightning and his jump attack more and I was just playing him badly tbh
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- his running/dashing attack isn't that easy to aim but it's very powerful. If you don't stop running right after slashing the first enemy, you'll see you can keep spamming the attack another couple of times. In small crowded areas like Coruscant and Polis Massa he's a fucking savage, I swear.
In all fairness, Palpatine's so easy to defeat when playing as the Rebels
@@MrAssassinkid17 even if Palpatine is played by a human well used to his strengths? Just asking, I always play against the A.I.
@@leonardoantonini4464 I wouldn't know because, like you, I always play against AI, but AI controlled Palpatine's a piece of piss to defeat
Very fair ratings. Apt analysis. Thanks for sharing!
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it 👌
I think the magna guard shouldn't have been in the game, instead the B2 should have been the elite unit of the CIS, and the regular trooper should have been the regular b1 droid, would have made things more balanced.
That's actually a pretty good idea, the B2's were literally intended to be superior foot soldiers so making them the main troop class is kinda busted
I second this. Since as a kid, I was sorta bummed out that I couldn't play as the B1 Battle droid as the main rifleman class of the game. At least it's possible to play the B1s in a couple campaign missions in the first battlefront
Yeah those missions were highlights
Super battle droid should've been the demolition trooper
My favorite:
1: CIS
2: Republic
3:Empire
4:Rebel Alliance - they are easier to play than clones and stormtroopers, because they use camo - white, shining armor was a very bad idea (and best target)
Also, their units are strong, but other factions have more interesting toys, vehicles and visually looks better.
This is also how I would order in terms of favour, (switch CIS with republic) but I do love the camo element with the rebels, but i do find their vehicles especially the alliance tank somewhat lackluster
From a purely statistical standpoint yeah id say this objectively correct. This is especially true in bf1 where the factions are far less balanced.
I question sbd's being the best trooper unit actually. Sure they go hard offensively when they do, but defensively its probably the safest and easiest unit to headshot in the entire game. Their head being in their torso makes it childsplay to hit and thier wristrockets being a linear attack makes them rather predictable and only really good at chokepoints.
Dont forget about Kit Fisto and Ventriss that came with the xbox dlc
They absolutely do give a boost, definitely two of the best heros for sure, actually working on a video for them both currently
Love this channel! You should rank heroes next!
Will do, I'll shout you out at the beginning of that video when it gets made for the idea 👌
Very solid list.
Cheers glad you like 👍
If the CIS ain't number one if he's talking most op or powerful than this video is cap. Specially in the first battlefront the CIS droidekas where crazy and they always won
Absolutely CIS were more powerful in og battlefront, but they are still the most powerful in Battlefront 2
Also this needs more views wtf. Game comes out in a week on the new gens!!!!
True if you don't help out your team, the CIS wins every map, even with serious handicaps like droidekas blowing up in the water of Kashyyyk it's still an ez clap for them.
@@yomang6614 kaskykk docks is literally the ONLY MAP the clones actuallly are almost equal along with oddly jabbas palace which idk why
Best BF2 channel on youtube. Fresh
Awesome cheers, glad you like the content 👍
Informative vid ! Once i told a guy who went 13-0 I would go deathless the next round..they said I wouldn't..if I recall. The more kills you get. The stronger your unit becomes..but you have to give the hero to someone else. I went 98-0 😎. Cant wait to experience this game again..and I may be the only person buying it regardless of all the nitpickin'.
Yeah deathless runs are awesome, but switching to a hero doesn't technically count as a death
@@Dankakin-SkyWalker- trying to jog a 20 year old memory lol. But. I believe becoming the hero resets the streak..
My favorite is the Republic, my second favorite is the Empire, and my third favorite is the CIS.
Don't forget that the CIS has the bomber with the fastest proton bomb discharge
Yes, the CIS bomber is my favourite after the Republic one