Your jumper trick just saved me from being stranded on the side of the highway, in a snow storn. Relay crapped out on me and i was legit stuck AND stranded in the middle of NOOOOOwhere. Thank you SO much for the EXTREMELY helpful information. Youre a scholar and a gentleman, sir.
What I did was find a "switched" lead near the the fusebox. I added a stand-alone fused relay. That way when I switch to key on, the relay energizes and sends current to the FP. Works like a charm. I soldered in a new FP relay a few years ago until today. This morning the FP relay once agian failed so I went with the stand-alone relay to never have the same issue.
Just a heads up. I have a 03 expedition eddie bauer 5.4L 4x4 think I have this same problem however I have no codes. I got stuck at work last night was running fine, came out and started it up and it was running really rough. Tried restarting and nothing, cranking super fast and it tried to start a few times but not even close. Watched this video and others on the subject. Ran a jumper wire i got from cutting off the cord of my cigarette lighter air compressor directly from the positive on the battery under the hood to the green wire with yellow stripe, no connector just twisted the stripped wire, Unplugged the connector and stuck the wire in the back side used electrical tape to secure it. Then ran it out the door into the hood compartment being careful not to pinch it I taped it onto the safer area where weather stripping would pad it a bit. Started right up, no diagnosis was done at all. This got me home and I'm thankful for this video and the others which I will link either in a edit or a new post should be next to this post. I will note the 4x4 high and 4x4 low lights were flashing occasionally but I made it home about 20 miles from my work. ua-cam.com/video/QYMkXKcdYP4/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/1brGVBETkEk/v-deo.html
How's your truck doing now? mine doing the same thing with the 4x4 lights flashing. My car stuck and won't turn over. Can it be the pump is completely out now
@@Anthony-bl5rm once you run the jumper wire as shown in the video your pump will be running constantly, which can be bad,, hook it up and listen then unhook it. If there is no noise your pump may be bad but check your wiring to be sure. you can hear it from underneath around the rear wheels. I ended up re soldering a new relay on to the board which worked for awhile eventually it blew again, thats when I did the bypass and ran a new relay. Both of the videos are linked in my first comment. Mine started up as soon as I ran the jumper wire, thats how I knew it wasn't the fuel pump, but the relay its self. Some do say that when this happens its a sign your fuel pump could be going bad. However I just changed the fuel filter and replaced the relay and it has been fine for a couple months now. Check the fuse, watch all the videos you can on both replacing the onboard relay as well as bypassing it. Checking the fuse, replacing the fuel filter everything.
@@Anthony-bl5rm the 4x4 lights only flashed once every few minutes. And only after I unplugged the wire harness which contains the fuel pump wires to plug in the jumper to it, and I left it unhooked while I drove home. Worked fine for me just ran 1 power wire as I believe it (fuel pump) is already grounded to the frame. Just be sure your hooking the power wire to the green wire with yellow stripe and to be sure its getting power try going directly to the power side of the battery under the hood if a short jumper doesn't work. I would say if the wire your using is too small of thickness it might have went bad, so be sure your wire is good.
@@Anthony-bl5rm 14 gauge. the wire i used to get myself home was probably 16-18 gauge (smaller wire than 14 gauge), worked fine in a emergency but 14 gauge is what the factory size is. I ran the relay with all 14 gauge wire when I got home. Bought a 20ft roll at the auto parts store was pretty cheap l think altogether it was about $50 for the new relay, connectors and wire.
I have it tapped into my cigarette lighter now the problem I have is its always on even with the keys out until I disconnect the power from the green wire is there something I missed or do I have the wrong fuse tapped
hey @Charlie D i replaced my burnt relay and reinstalled the fuse box. when i turn the key to on it sounds like the fuel pump is priming BUT it don't stop and none of the gauge lights turn off and my odometer/temp is blank and the the engine don't crank at all. nothing; like if you turn the key with the battery disconnected. Ima bypass the relay like you show to see if that do anything. but, got any ideas otherwise?
Hi I don't know if it makes sense but mine was parked running when my son yanked keys from ignition and expedition shut off ,ever since then I've had this same no start problem ??? Any suggestions or how this may be related?
So the fuel pump will be ignition hot? I was going to try to run a toggle switch to turn it on and off until I can get a fuse but if I can use it this way for a little bit, I’ll try that.
I tried this and nothing happened.SoI tested the green /yellow wire in the same spot I plugged in the butt connector with a voltage meter. No power!. Why is there no power to that spot? I have power to other fuses in the panel.
The green wire with the yellow stripe is output power from the relay that is burnt out when the relay quits that wire no longer gets voltage the objective here is to apply 12v power to the green wire with the yellow stripe
@@flippingandfixingatvsutvs6188 Thanks. So if the car will not start when I apply power to the green wire, does that confirm the fuel pump is defective or could there be some other issue? Until it suddenly quit, I have had no issues with it starting or running smoothly.
Yes I would assume the fuel pump is bad it can be tested out of the truck I had to replace mine it stopped out of the blue one day I was able tap on the pump while applying 12v power and it started working again so I went on and replaced it with a new assembly i want to say i paid around 250 for my new pump but if you can wait order a pump online and it will save you some money
My expedition does it intermittently it just loses fuel and starts up after a minute. It has done it 3 times. It does not trip the service engine light. I took it to the dealership. It did not do it for them. Could that be the issue considering it’s not tripping the service engine soon light or is it the fuel pump?
I've watched other videos and learned the relay is not serviceable (kind of) becasue if you can solder you can replace it. If you cant solder then a new fuse box is the only option. I've changed the fuse box, changed the fuel pump and still cant get my '03 expo to start. If I spray starter fluid in the intake it acts like it wants to start but immediately dies out.
I am running out of options on my 04 expedition and I will not pay $500 to some mechanic until I know it's the pump. Thank you. It's worth a try. Let y'all know if it worked.
I was bringing my boss home from work last night late and truck kept having fuel shut off turn off I ripped out a wire from my radio cuz I didn't have anything but a knife with me and bam got home
@@flippingandfixingatvsutvs6188 Ok, when I get them in I send them to you since you'll doit for $50 and I'll charge $100 making $50 for bieng the middle man.😁
Your jumper trick just saved me from being stranded on the side of the highway, in a snow storn. Relay crapped out on me and i was legit stuck AND stranded in the middle of NOOOOOwhere. Thank you SO much for the EXTREMELY helpful information. Youre a scholar and a gentleman, sir.
Glad I could help
Cant say how much I appreciate you posting this little hack. You're a genius! This had my truck running.
What I did was find a "switched" lead near the the fusebox. I added a stand-alone fused relay. That way when I switch to key on, the relay energizes and sends current to the FP. Works like a charm. I soldered in a new FP relay a few years ago until today. This morning the FP relay once agian failed so I went with the stand-alone relay to never have the same issue.
What's a switched lead?
Basically a wire/circuit that is hot when the key is switched to on.
Dude you are life saver I’m having this issue now
You're a life saver
Brother.. you just saved my mama .. thank you.. thank you thank you.. I subscribed and liked .. thank you
Thank you for this video. This really saved my butt... I appreciate it.
Glad I could help
Just did this. Worked perfect!
Awsome
Hey question what type of black wire is that going connected to the add a circuit?
Thanks bro this was lot of help save my day .thank you .
Question if I do this for my expedition and if it don’t start does that mean it’s the fuel pump?
And when I connect the wire do I need to disconnect the battery?
Just a heads up. I have a 03 expedition eddie bauer 5.4L 4x4 think I have this same problem however I have no codes. I got stuck at work last night was running fine, came out and started it up and it was running really rough. Tried restarting and nothing, cranking super fast and it tried to start a few times but not even close. Watched this video and others on the subject. Ran a jumper wire i got from cutting off the cord of my cigarette lighter air compressor directly from the positive on the battery under the hood to the green wire with yellow stripe, no connector just twisted the stripped wire, Unplugged the connector and stuck the wire in the back side used electrical tape to secure it. Then ran it out the door into the hood compartment being careful not to pinch it I taped it onto the safer area where weather stripping would pad it a bit. Started right up, no diagnosis was done at all. This got me home and I'm thankful for this video and the others which I will link either in a edit or a new post should be next to this post. I will note the 4x4 high and 4x4 low lights were flashing occasionally but I made it home about 20 miles from my work.
ua-cam.com/video/QYMkXKcdYP4/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/1brGVBETkEk/v-deo.html
How's your truck doing now? mine doing the same thing with the 4x4 lights flashing. My car stuck and won't turn over. Can it be the pump is completely out now
@@Anthony-bl5rm once you run the jumper wire as shown in the video your pump will be running constantly, which can be bad,, hook it up and listen then unhook it. If there is no noise your pump may be bad but check your wiring to be sure. you can hear it from underneath around the rear wheels. I ended up re soldering a new relay on to the board which worked for awhile eventually it blew again, thats when I did the bypass and ran a new relay. Both of the videos are linked in my first comment.
Mine started up as soon as I ran the jumper wire, thats how I knew it wasn't the fuel pump, but the relay its self. Some do say that when this happens its a sign your fuel pump could be going bad. However I just changed the fuel filter and replaced the relay and it has been fine for a couple months now.
Check the fuse, watch all the videos you can on both replacing the onboard relay as well as bypassing it. Checking the fuse, replacing the fuel filter everything.
@@Anthony-bl5rm the 4x4 lights only flashed once every few minutes. And only after I unplugged the wire harness which contains the fuel pump wires to plug in the jumper to it, and I left it unhooked while I drove home. Worked fine for me just ran 1 power wire as I believe it (fuel pump) is already grounded to the frame. Just be sure your hooking the power wire to the green wire with yellow stripe and to be sure its getting power try going directly to the power side of the battery under the hood if a short jumper doesn't work. I would say if the wire your using is too small of thickness it might have went bad, so be sure your wire is good.
How thick should the wire be
@@Anthony-bl5rm 14 gauge. the wire i used to get myself home was probably 16-18 gauge (smaller wire than 14 gauge), worked fine in a emergency but 14 gauge is what the factory size is. I ran the relay with all 14 gauge wire when I got home. Bought a 20ft roll at the auto parts store was pretty cheap l think altogether it was about $50 for the new relay, connectors and wire.
Thank you!
Thanks for the video
I have it tapped into my cigarette lighter now the problem I have is its always on even with the keys out until I disconnect the power from the green wire is there something I missed or do I have the wrong fuse tapped
hey @Charlie D i replaced my burnt relay and reinstalled the fuse box. when i turn the key to on it sounds like the fuel pump is priming BUT it don't stop and none of the gauge lights turn off and my odometer/temp is blank and the the engine don't crank at all. nothing; like if you turn the key with the battery disconnected. Ima bypass the relay like you show to see if that do anything. but, got any ideas otherwise?
I have the same problem. Did you get it fixed? If so, how.
So i bypassed the internal with the external relay and im having same issue it stays on when key is turned but never stops
The pump will continuously run with the key on this is a temporary fix to get you by
Where ddu get the fused jumper from?
It worked you guys
Thank you so much man! Saved my ass lol
Glad im able to help people
You got the part number
Hi I don't know if it makes sense but mine was parked running when my son yanked keys from ignition and expedition shut off ,ever since then I've had this same no start problem ??? Any suggestions or how this may be related?
Did you find the issue?
So the fuel pump will be ignition hot? I was going to try to run a toggle switch to turn it on and off until I can get a fuse but if I can use it this way for a little bit, I’ll try that.
Yes ignition hot the pump will turn on and off with the key
I tried this and nothing happened.SoI tested the green /yellow wire in the same spot I plugged in the butt connector with a voltage meter. No power!. Why is there no power to that spot? I have power to other fuses in the panel.
The green wire with the yellow stripe is output power from the relay that is burnt out when the relay quits that wire no longer gets voltage the objective here is to apply 12v power to the green wire with the yellow stripe
@@flippingandfixingatvsutvs6188 Thanks. So if the car will not start when I apply power to the green wire, does that confirm the fuel pump is defective or could there be some other issue? Until it suddenly quit, I have had no issues with it starting or running smoothly.
Yes I would assume the fuel pump is bad it can be tested out of the truck I had to replace mine it stopped out of the blue one day I was able tap on the pump while applying 12v power and it started working again so I went on and replaced it with a new assembly i want to say i paid around 250 for my new pump but if you can wait order a pump online and it will save you some money
Thank you soooooo very much
Awsome glad this video is helping people that was the whole reason I made the video
My expedition does it intermittently it just loses fuel and starts up after a minute. It has done it 3 times. It does not trip the service engine light. I took it to the dealership. It did not do it for them. Could that be the issue considering it’s not tripping the service engine soon light or is it the fuel pump?
Yes this is your issue eventually it will totally go out and won't start back thats how I finally figured it out
This doez work on a 2003 i replaced the fuel pump but to my dissapointment that was not the problem , now to order a relay
Tyrone Clay they are cheap on ebay like 5 bucks not that hard to do
Charlie D Thanks
I've watched other videos and learned the relay is not serviceable (kind of) becasue if you can solder you can replace it. If you cant solder then a new fuse box is the only option.
I've changed the fuse box, changed the fuel pump and still cant get my '03 expo to start. If I spray starter fluid in the intake it acts like it wants to start but immediately dies out.
@@kaosbboi any update?
Did it work?
Just did this it worked good but the expedition stays on now when I removed the key. Any thoughts? Need help here
I never had that issue
IT worked man thank you. Do you think is safe to leave it like that?
I left mine like that for a few months befor I fixed the relay its probably not the best for the fuel pump but it will get you by
How do you make the double fuse set-up?
I bought it from the parts store
Will the starter engage if the fuel pump relay is burnt
Yes it will
I am running out of options on my 04 expedition and I will not pay $500 to some mechanic until I know it's the pump. Thank you. It's worth a try. Let y'all know if it worked.
Alex Rmz Did it work? I'm having the same issue.
Any update?
I was bringing my boss home from work last night late and truck kept having fuel shut off turn off I ripped out a wire from my radio cuz I didn't have anything but a knife with me and bam got home
Awsome
Did y’all see a video on making the wire set up? Mine isn’t working
I posted a video about the wiring where it goes if I can help you just let me know
Flipping and fixing atvs utvs what kind of wire is needed?
Autozone sells the little wire for around 8$
Jay Flores what’s it called?
2003 Navigator same design
Should be
Sent me your fusebox and I'll fix yours for $100.00. Plus shipping.
Send it to me and I'll fix it for 50 for real
@@flippingandfixingatvsutvs6188 Ok, when I get them in I send them to you since you'll doit for $50 and I'll charge $100 making $50 for bieng the middle man.😁
I will have them shipped back same day as they arrived frfr good idea tho
@@flippingandfixingatvsutvs6188 but them you'd have 0 🌟 reviews for unsatisfied customer service.
Frank Mata can you send your information to me please psmith5470@gmail.com
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