Could a Spanish Tercio Win the Battle of Nicopolis

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  • @davidr1037
    @davidr1037 10 місяців тому +68

    What if some WW1 French Artillery went back in time to assist Napoleon Bonaparte win at the Battle of Waterloo.

    • @RadBruce.
      @RadBruce. 10 місяців тому +6

      Yes make this the top comment please

    • @weilam03
      @weilam03 10 місяців тому +6

      pretty obvious Napoleon would win with ww1 artillery

    • @RadBruce.
      @RadBruce. 10 місяців тому +7

      @@weilam03 but it would be funny

    • @davidr1037
      @davidr1037 10 місяців тому +7

      @@weilam03 let’s be honest take any battle and give them better junk and they win but it’s still a cool idea

    • @karlcrisostomo418
      @karlcrisostomo418 10 місяців тому +1

      Napoleon would have multiple orgasms when he saw how those artillery perform.

  • @SuperDiablo101
    @SuperDiablo101 10 місяців тому +11

    Would you consider reintroducing the ironclads again but in the battle against or with the Spanish Armada....they would be near invincible to everything but the possible fireships. Or even a group of WWI machine gunners defending the within the thin narrow gap at the battle of Thermopylae. keep up the interesting work

  • @DragonSavior2930
    @DragonSavior2930 10 місяців тому +8

    Battle of Midway but with a modern Carrier Battle Group?

  • @Dare_To_Game
    @Dare_To_Game 10 місяців тому +3

    I think a Spanish Tercio would win the battle.

  • @YoussefDaanBenAmor
    @YoussefDaanBenAmor 10 місяців тому +7

    Just imagine if Spanish Tercio were presents at Nicopolis and not the french medieval knigths! Sultan Yildirim the thunderbolt Bayezid would have been up against a real challenge!

  • @TheJeffcoulter
    @TheJeffcoulter 8 місяців тому +2

    How about sending a tank battalion from the US 1st Armored Division (1991 post Gulf War 1 era) to the Battle of Kasserine Pass?

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 10 місяців тому +8

    WOAH cool! Wish for US Army Green Berets soon!

  • @Marylandbrony
    @Marylandbrony 10 місяців тому +7

    I have an interesting one, WW2 Germany with a modern logistics system (Either the 1980s West and East German plus Austrian miliary and civilian stuff likes trains and trucks or the current 2023/2024 German and Austrian ones). Whichever you think would give them the bigger boost and would be a better insight into how the Wehrmacht worked than simply tanks, artillery and planes.

    • @ethanstaaf404
      @ethanstaaf404 10 місяців тому +3

      They lose even faster because this requires even more fuel that they dont have. It goes the same for all of the wonder weapon arguments. The MAUS, the rocket planes. They all require fuel (and rubber for the trucks) that the germans just didnt have

  • @terrorcop101
    @terrorcop101 10 місяців тому +6

    I generally like the supplementary forces you've used previously, but this was a good change. I'd like to see something involving the landsknechts; maybe going back to defend Rome from the Goths or to join one side or pick a side in the Teutoburg campaign.

  • @MML-gk5xc
    @MML-gk5xc 3 місяці тому +2

    The Ottomans were the pioneers in the use of gunpowder and firearms in Europe it is not often said. It does not surprise me that the European armies had to adapt to the Ottomans by incorporating army corps. But Europe's first standard army in the Middle Ages came from the Ottoman Empire when Europeans used archaic charging tactics of heavy chivalry. The Ottomans even before the Spanish Empire had an excellent army, better logistics and cannons of different sizes and calibers. I would add that the Ottoman armies were the first armies to use uniforms for each army corps which was ultra modern for the time without mentioning the Mehter which was the first corps of martial music those which helped the army to walk in a disciplined manner and improve morale. The Ottoman army specialized in siege warfare. Of course the Europeans adapted Ottoman tactics and even adopted them. Like for example the Infantry regiments the use of uniformes and ranks and the adoption massively of fire armes, the martial discipline which was the strength of the Ottoman armies. The Europeans took these different concepts and added the spear to their formations which gave the tercios for example, see modern armies. The weak point of the Ottoman armies was their poor command and naval technological inferiority to the Europeans, which led to the disaster of Lepanto and which allowed the Europeans to gain the upper hand.

  • @ggoddkkiller1342
    @ggoddkkiller1342 10 місяців тому +2

    I have to disagree there is no way on Earth 4,000 Spanish Tercio could defeat Ottoman army even with their superior technology, simply because out of 25,000 at least 15,000 were Sipahis! Sipahis were effective not because their armour rather because they were extremely mobile force with bows and javelins. So they would never charge against pikemen as claimed rather keep their distance and engage in a skirmish. Their bows and javelins had less penetration than guns but their rate of fire was many times higher and Tercio was very lightly armoured so they could not last long especially with low numbers. 4,000 of them were going to be just slaughtered, slow formation of Tercios could never force them to engage in melee. So the amount of Tercios needed is much higher or crusader army had to be more complex with units which would force Sipahis to engage..

  • @ZillaFury2542
    @ZillaFury2542 10 місяців тому +10

    Battle at Waterloo with WW1 british battalion with artillery and tank.

    • @Saeronor
      @Saeronor 10 місяців тому +3

      So, the goal is to have British win without Prussians ? :)

    • @KevinYau-v7i
      @KevinYau-v7i 7 днів тому

      ​@@SaeronorWithout the Prussian Army in the area. Wellington Anglo Dutch Army might have been broken.

    • @Saeronor
      @Saeronor 7 днів тому +1

      @@KevinYau-v7i ...which is something that gets mysteriously forgotten pretty often.

  • @christiandauz3742
    @christiandauz3742 8 місяців тому +3

    This alternate Timeline would have Muskets everywhere by the early 15th century

  • @Tracer_Krieg
    @Tracer_Krieg 9 місяців тому +6

    Here's an interesting one: the English Forces at Agincourt, including Knights, archers, and armsmen, replace the Greek contingent at Thermopalaye.They must either delay the Persian army until Greek forces arrive or inflict enough casaulties as to force them from the field.

  • @carinasmirnoff1780
    @carinasmirnoff1780 10 місяців тому +6

    This one was really good. Super interesting.

    • @ParryThis
      @ParryThis  10 місяців тому +2

      Glad you think so!

  • @loganbaker35
    @loganbaker35 10 місяців тому +4

    Modern French Foreign Legion holding the Ardennes against the Wehrmacht in the battle of France

  • @oolooo
    @oolooo 10 місяців тому +2

    Spain has a history of humilliating the Turks

  • @alessiodecarolis
    @alessiodecarolis 9 місяців тому +1

    The main problem would be the (very) slow rate of fire of those early arquebuses, plus don't know if their range was similar to Turkish bows. Probabilly you should double the spanish force, at least 10.000 men strong, to stay sure of a victory.
    PS. didn't the turks were crushed few yrs later by Tamerlane, that ruthlessly exterminated so many of them?

  • @calgacus34
    @calgacus34 10 місяців тому +1

    How would french knights or a contingent of musketeers change the battle of Alesia?

  • @tedhubertcrusio372
    @tedhubertcrusio372 10 місяців тому +3

    Basically Spain would just be stuck in the heat.

  • @cr0sad3r70
    @cr0sad3r70 10 місяців тому +1

    Yo wtf I was literally thinking about this an hour ago before I saw this video.

  • @thomaswilwerding3230
    @thomaswilwerding3230 8 місяців тому +1

    Just take a breath it’s okay you don’t always need to cut after like half a sentence. I love your content I just feel bad all that editing sounds exhausting

  • @TommyMorrison-i8z
    @TommyMorrison-i8z 8 місяців тому +1

    I also wander what a d-day would look like with modern air support or modern ships support

  • @Mah-Boi
    @Mah-Boi 9 місяців тому +1

    What If a WW2 US and German battalion were in the Battle of Bull rub?

  • @zulhakimmohammed3851
    @zulhakimmohammed3851 10 місяців тому +2

    50 men of Tier1 force went back in time to help defend Constantinople in 1453.

  • @Lacteagalaxia
    @Lacteagalaxia 10 місяців тому +3

    For exemple in Lepanto battle the Spanish Tercios they were decisive and shower clear superiority from the Janissaries in the boarding hand to hand; they have a best armies in history.

    • @poil8351
      @poil8351 6 місяців тому

      mind you i suspect lepanto was as much due to ottoman overconfidence and better handling of the allied galleys.

  • @salkey3987
    @salkey3987 10 місяців тому +3

    YEET

  • @Wolfen443
    @Wolfen443 10 місяців тому +2

    Better leadership, not even better or more organized troops makes the biggest difference in these cases. Even an army overmatch or less militarily effective under a good leader can execute some effective delaying battle and retreat mostly in one piece.

  • @chaoticwj1772
    @chaoticwj1772 10 місяців тому +2

    What if a full strength Mid Imperial Roman legion was helping the Spartans at the Battle of Thermopylae.
    For references:
    ua-cam.com/video/eR-J_JSBNTI/v-deo.htmlsi=ruHZcYIwiIR8AKZU

  • @benm5913
    @benm5913 10 місяців тому +3

    Just having singular leadership would have a huge impact on the western forces.

  • @EMOSydicate
    @EMOSydicate 10 місяців тому +1

    Catholicism and Christianity are very different. They’re not the same thing.

    • @ParryThis
      @ParryThis  10 місяців тому +2

      Before the appearance of Protestant denominations, they were not. The Catholic Church is the same unbroken faith founded by Christ.

  • @Tarrasuge
    @Tarrasuge 10 місяців тому +2

    50 us army rangers got sent back to Wake Island December 7 after the first bomb dropped on pear harbor give them 4 days to dig in.

  • @shreeparasnathindustries6123
    @shreeparasnathindustries6123 10 місяців тому +1

    Battle of Saragarhi?

  • @TommyMorrison-i8z
    @TommyMorrison-i8z 8 місяців тому +1

    I like both methods of added futuristic units to existing units as well as replacing them and both methods should be used again

  • @peterl3417
    @peterl3417 5 місяців тому

    Very cool. I don't know how 1500 arquebusiers would make up for the huge numbers of bows the ottomans had.

  • @Aeacus202
    @Aeacus202 4 місяці тому

    If you study medivial history, you should have heard of Gjergj George Kastrioti aka Skanderbeg, king of Epyrus. If he was in nicopolis he would have smashed the ottomans.He destroyed ottoman for 25 times with all the armies composition they had at nicopolis and even better composotion after they took Constantinople and emploed cannons in 1445 1465 and so on. He destroyed ottomans armies at every battle where he was outnumbered, and never got beaten in battle against ottomans when he directed it.Look it up, the guy is legendary Christian commander unknown by most.

  • @tanewoodley9806
    @tanewoodley9806 9 місяців тому

    If you don't like a Babymetal song, move on to another one, their range is huge and every.somg is different. Live oerformances of Headbanger at Legend 1997 or Megitsune at Red Fox festival are good ones.
    Thanks for listening and giving it an honest shot. 👍 from me.

  • @rjpunkin
    @rjpunkin 5 місяців тому

    I always thought it was the 3 groups pike shot and swordsman combined no mention of the third component,?

  • @DougthebearRichards
    @DougthebearRichards 6 місяців тому

    If the Ottomans stood back with their archers and pelted the unarmoured shot with arrows?

  • @crzygamer10117
    @crzygamer10117 10 місяців тому +1

    This was enjoyable, but I recommend the format you used for the "WWI soldiers" and the "Rangers at the Alamo".

  • @poil8351
    @poil8351 6 місяців тому

    intresting i wonder how a 17th century tercio fair, they would be similiar but have distinct difference, much more firepower than a 15th century terico and better artillery plus they would also have somewhat different fighting methods, tercios had by the thirty years war started to adopt more modern doctrines such as volley fire and fought in a maner not dissimilar to the dutch.

  • @kyleglenn2434
    @kyleglenn2434 8 місяців тому

    it would have to be a total replacement. If it was just a unit the crusaders would fight about how to use them.

  • @stargatefan10
    @stargatefan10 10 місяців тому +1

    Under that legendary leadership even the original force could have won i think.

  • @chrisbeer5685
    @chrisbeer5685 10 місяців тому +2

    Maybe instead of sending a small number of soldiers further in the past, you can do one where a lot of less technologically advanced soldiers go into a battle more recent.
    Like could five full legions of 1st century AD rome succesfully defended Constantinople from the Turks?

    • @Saeronor
      @Saeronor 10 місяців тому +1

      So, "What if Varus entered some weird part of the forest where trees did not speak Germanic and then emerged in Thrace, only a bit later?"

    • @karlcrisostomo418
      @karlcrisostomo418 10 місяців тому +1

      I like this one. Romans in Britain defending against the Great Heathen Army.

  • @HenryKobyla1407
    @HenryKobyla1407 10 місяців тому +1

    Love this premise. I think it's more interesting that you adjust the troops every time.

  • @Flacto-vs6np
    @Flacto-vs6np 5 місяців тому

    as a hema practicioner, ill say that havier armour impeding mobility is kinda a myth. what actually happens is that you will run out of stamina significantly faster than someone wearing lighter armour, so its more of a stamina thing than a speed thing

    • @therac197
      @therac197 20 днів тому

      It´s not exactly a myth. While true on the personal level it is observable on horseback and in formation

  • @Lexi-vl5eh
    @Lexi-vl5eh 10 місяців тому +2

    Great video. Very well done.

    • @ParryThis
      @ParryThis  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much!

  • @SeanMahoneyfitnessandart
    @SeanMahoneyfitnessandart 3 місяці тому +1

    Armour does not greatly reduce mobility. Please stop perpetuating this myth! Full plate battle armour only weighed about 60lbs. A knight could run, jump, climb a rope/ladder , etc in their armor.
    Regardless, it's a shame things didn't go this way historically. Oops... did I say that...
    #don'thatetheplayerhatethegame