I have a clarification: China can only claim to have the most boats of any Navy because it counts every single ship no matter how small. By displacement, the US Navy is twice the total size, and their total ship count is lower because they don't include any ship smaller than a destroyer. There's also all the ships owned by the US Marines that aren't included in the Navy's count
I remember reading somewhere that the largest measures of ownership of some millitary tech or asset will tend to be some order of the different branches of the US military before getting to different countries. I know it's the case for number of planes and munitions
Plus their military hardware is a bunch of junk, their big aircraft carrier can't move without tug boats. They just lost a nuke sub and all aboard as it hit bottom. Their copied US fighter jets don't work right. Smaller things must have problems too, as contractors cut cost in production. They would be wiped out in the first weeks of real war with US and allies who have real weapons.
@@icebaby6714 I hope for china's sake they don't use the same terrible steel that they've been building the tofu drege houses out of. This isn't sarcasm either, I seriously hope they look out for their servicemen by making sure their ships are built to the highest standard.
As someone who leaves in Taiwan, we just want peace, whatever it looks like, might it be keeping the status quo, or independence. We just want to keep enjoying the achievements made in here
The mastermind behind Taiwan's semiconducter plan was then-minister of economic Affairs Yun-suan Sun and former RCA engineer Wen-Yuan Pan. Sun was tasked by then-premier Chiang Ching-kuo to identify a technological field that would suit Taiwan, and over one breakfast in 1974, Pan persuded Sun that Semiconductors were the way to go. Sun used his position as Minister to seek out and persude talents (especially Taiwanese working abroad) to join the cause, while Pan used his old contacts at RCA to ink a 10 year deal that would allow Taiwan to manufacture low-end chips for RCA televisions. These efforts culminated in Taiwan's first domestic 3-in silicon wafer in 1977. UMC and TSMC entered the picture much later, with UMC first in 1980, and TSMC later in 1985. Morris Chang, as the video stated, was the one that introduced the concept of a fab, but he was not really as prominent in Taiwan's semicon history as the video suggests. By the time TSMC entered production, Taiwan was already a thriving chip manufacturing hub with UMC at the helm. Therefore Pan is usually considered the father of Taiwanese IC industry, not Morris Chang, despite Chang's outsized contributions to Taiwan's position today.
As a Taiwanese with friends and families working for TSMC, I just want to mention that despite the many criticisms around the TSMC’s foundry in the US and the threat to US’s willingness to protect Taiwan in the event of an invasion, the foundry they built in the US is leagues behind the foundries in Taiwan in terms of what they make. TSMC effectively out-source the manufacturing of the last generation of semiconductors (4nm) to the US, so the foundries in Taiwan can focus on the next generation (3nm). By the time the first TSMC US foundry starts actually churning out semiconductors (estimate to be 2025), the foundry in Taiwan is going to be two generations ahead (2nm). Even with the newly announced second US foundry and its 3nm manufacturing ability which is shooting to start production in 2026, there are still years before it starts to actually join the supply chain and catches up to what Taiwan’s foundries have already been making right now, which are currently used in the iPhone 15 series. Most of the criticisms coming from inside the TSMC itself is on the fact that manufacturing in the US will drastically increase the cost, and the integration of US work culture and Taiwanese management is not going to go well. (The production process of semiconductors requires 24/7 monitoring, which means that most of the engineers in TSMC are, though well-compensated, highly over-worked.) These worries have been proven to be true from the fact that the US foundry’s production timeline has been delayed many times.
I think that's just good buiness, to make the market bigger is a benefit to Taiwan. But if you let another business/country become better than the founder, you lose your tactical edge. This assumption that Taiwan will be ahead 2 generations does forget to take into consideration the assumed risk that comes with being inventive. There is a chance the Taiwan company takes a big hit to start producing 2nm chips, but they have decided the luxury product companies will more than pay for any disruption they might find.
Taiwan may start two generations ahead, both of which I would add will have unknown yields and stability in production as designs rapidly close in on quantum tunneling complications, but frankly it's doubtful they will remain generations behind, especially considering the technology roadmap for silicone is coming to an end with as yet no clear next generation technology to replace it. The US and Europe need a hedge against the worst case scenario, and have both the resources and will to build such. TSMC has done an incredible job, and I hope it remains the dominant market player for decades to come because it is cost effective and efficient, but it would be foolish in the extreme to think the US is incapable of building security into its technology pipeline by building capacity. There will be costs, there will be pain, but it will happen, because it must happen.
@MunkeyBrewster Unfortunately the US doesn't possess the work ethic and process improvement required to step forward as efficiently as the Taiwanese. Their culture is unified, not divided up for political purposes either.
@@skullhart Mm, agree to disagree. I don't think people making that bet in the past saw dividends on the sentiment. Of course, every situation is a new and unique circumstance, but I see no reason to be pessimistic about our chances. Still, only time will tell I suppose.
@persona2grata I worked in several aerospace manufacturing companies. We utilized an ACE (achieving competitive excellence) model which was essentially 6 sigma. The plants in China consistently made ACE gold when our facilities could BARELY even meet the minimum criteria. Their work ethic and consistency absolutely destroyed any plant we had in the US or EU. Our US employees earned over 2x the compensation as well. So this is one example I can personally confirm as 100% true. Consider also why so many other products are made in China and overseas. AND now the largest auto manufacturer is in China.
Credit where credit is due, Taiwan's idea and movement to become one of the largest semiconductor manufacture during a time where computers where rising for foreign protection was smart.
Taiwan Province of China is now divided by warlords, which cannot change its status as a province of China. Since mainland China cannot use chips from Taiwan Province, no one can use them.
@@kingwing3203i mean, we westerners can use them and I am very sure China uses them too just like europe uses russian oil, just not labeled as russian
This video is exactly what I’m trying to explain every time someone brings up the topic of China invading Taiwan. If you remember the chip shortage during COVID you know what even a very tiny disruption of that supply chain can cause. Now imagine if 60-90% of all chip production suddenly gone, that would surely be an economic catastrophe never seen before and hardly even imaginable…
@@tomfoolery5680 I get what you’re saying and don’t disagree but it’s not like existing electronics would magically stop working. Nobody really NEEDS to get new electronics every year like new iPhones each year. It would have an economic impact buts it’s not like we’d be sent to the Stone Age the way people seem to think
is the chip shortage due to taiwan exporting less chip... or china? this is what most people fail to understand, China produce almost as many chip as Taiwan does... China produce more chip than US does... world has been lied to...
wtf are you talking about, China imports most of its microtechnology from the States. They just build cheap production-line garbage there, not invent anything of value.
I love how every stock video of a fab in this, even the 300mm footage, is practically ancient history from a semiconductor perspective. The unspoken truth of any advanced fab is how secretive they are. Even layout or equipment vendor labels would suggest certain details about design and technology that advanced fabs need to keep secret.
If you count Intel's current fabs as not being ancient (which you may or may not) then LTT did a video of inside a current Intel fab, and it looked similar to these videos.
@@aaardvaaark I work in a fab, thanks. I know what I’m looking at here. I could probably tell you what half these things do just looking at the face plate and footprint. This is all pretty old stuff.
The new American foundries aren't meant to be able to replace Taiwan. They only aim to reduce the blow if Taiwan is invaded and prevent the US from being totally screwed in the short-term. Like you said Taiwan will always be the producers of the most advanced nodes so there is no such thing as replacing them outright - therefore their security is still strategically paramount to the US and EU.
It's also a lot better if the war for Taiwan lasts for a while that the US military whose ever more reliant on semiconductor technology to not have their own means supplying themselves be so vulnerable !
This is exactly why the US has no business at all interfering. Until and unless everyone can produce the most advanced chips, war after war is inevitable. Screw what is paramount to the US or the EU. Unless we start thinking about what paramount to everyone is, to the entire world, we will continually fall into war after war after war until someone gets tired of losing and resorts to nuclear weapons. Or worse., and there are things worse than nuclear weapons.
To be fair to the weakening of the Silicon Shield, Europe also believed that the economic relationship with Russian gas would deter Russia from aggression, and that has failed abysmally.
Taiwans near semiconductor monopoly is magnitudes more important to the global economy than Russias gas. You can very easily drill for fossils if you have the deposits but the manufacturing of semi-conductors can take years to decades to develop. We see the EU and US just now slowly starting to ramp up production again but even with imported technology it will take forever to create significant manufacturing hubs. And even they'll be very unlikely even remotely competitive to Taiwan for a long time. If China would take over Taiwan tomorrow they would control more than 75% of all semi-conductor manufacturing, without most developed countries having an alternative for a very long time. This would give China near infinite economic leverage, like they could practically disarm the US military this way. So for the moment it isn't just an economic relation but pretty much the technological independence of the West. And that's not a case for chance for any rational world leader.
You have that backwards with Russia who depended on the European market and then getting slowly cut out with the emergence of Ukraine's gas and oil industries.
@@atlasreturns1793 Huawei's new Mate 60 Pro proves that Taiwan is not indispensable and will become less relevant as China advances it semiconductor lithography processes. You can't be #1 forever as the West and Taiwan is finding out the hard way.
You've missed some important news. Putin wanted peace, Zelensky refused. The US war machine, of which Zelensky is puppet, is the problem both in Ukraine and in Taiwan.
Semiconductor industry is not just another industry that you can easily rebuild elsewhere in the world. 1) it relies on tens thousands of highly trained engineers and IP which are currently possessed by Taiwan especially TSMC. Taiwan has world most complete semiconductor ecosystem 2) it’s capital intensive. Each plant costs upwards of $10 billion and 2 years to build. The new TSMC Arizona plant is not going to be financially profitable due to various reasons. It is projected to have output of 20,000 chips per month whereas total TSMC output is 1,200,000 per month. It will take the world hundreds of billions dollars and a decade to replace what is lost in Taiwan
It's 20,000 wafers per month, 20,000 chips per month is a joke. Also the damage to Chinese economy that the invasion of Taiwan would bring will be much bigger than some semiconductor crisis... It's bad when you have limited supply of newest microchips but when you can't import coal to generate electricity or food to feed the people it's existential problem.
thank you for the break down! i knew making my stupid iphone would become prohibitively expensive for a rube like me due to nebulous “supply chain issues,” and that’s where my knowledge ended- until i found you 😃
Taiwan Province of China is now divided by warlords, which cannot change its status as a province of China. Since mainland China cannot use chips from Taiwan Province, no one can use them.
I am an asian American, born in California but I travel between Taiwan and the us quite often. Although my family is from Hong Kong, many of my relatives live in Taiwan. From my understanding, most people just dont really want to deal with china. They want things to continue as they are, they’re content not being completely independent as long as china doesn’t start forcing anything upon them.
But that ambivalence is the problem. This status quo isn't even really legal. Until Taiwan declares independence properly, China will always have a right to assert their control over it. If you really want peace, you have to act.
@@David-ud9ju what on earth are you talking about? You think there's some legal procedure Taiwan can perform that will somehow handcuff the Chinese military and prevent them from ever invading? You do realize that sovereign nations get invaded all the time right? When a country gets invaded they can't just go to some international court to prove they declared independence and have the invader kicked out. What you're suggesting is literally what provokes the Chinese into wanting to invade.
There was a real commitment from China to let Hong Kong handle itself far more than they've delivered. Taiwan wouldn't even be starting with any promises. It won't go well.
I remember being taught that many factors of the global economy were designed to make war much more difficult. The transistor factories location makes war difficult, it is by design.
well, they said the same things about Germany and other states importing much of their energy from Russia. But now the official position seems to be "that was really dumb, we should've never been reliant on Russia". It's always good when it works out well but when it doesn't it was always a bad plan from the start. Whether this applies to this situation only time will tell
Theoretically, if you make yourself a valuable trade partner to all sides, you are less likely to be invaded. However, we are currently seeing that plan fall through in a few different places. Hell, just look at Hawaii.
@Loeffellux From that perspective, there's no such thing as a good plan. All plans will eventually come undone. These policies kept relative peace between the major world economies for decades, increased prosperity, and allowed diplomacy between countries who had been enemies for centuries. They were not bad plans.
I love the use of Civ 6 symbols for units and map districts. Been playing it a lot lately and they weirdly helped contextualize what was being said that much easier.
Maybe instead of relying on funny symbols from popular video games to show what he's talking about, the author could've just condensed his points while writing the video, so that it didn't end up as word salad.
I'm a taiwanese who never left this place since the day I was born, I have to say that we are truly not prepared for a war, our generation had no experiences, and the most confusing thing for us is that, we don't even know what our identity truly is, people who support independence are considered "radical" somehow according to the society by and large, and there's also people claiming themselves as people of the ROC, which whether appeal to peace with china or just want to reconquer the lost land(or you just reckon that we cannot deny what was written in the constitution); of course, whoever we are, most people are pacifists and don't want the war to affect our lives, some even ignoring the likelihood for it to occur... I really hope that the war is just nothing but a boast, but if it were to happen, I wish all taiwanese can stand up for themselves just for the sake of protecting our homeland.
The same thing applied to Ukraine. A large portion of them considered themselves Russian, as it was the language they spoke. But from the day rockets start hitting your home, you'll know which team you're on.
As an overseas Chinese trying to understand the complexity of PRC/ROC issue, the ROC/Taiwan side imo always looks like it is two-faced and filled with contradictions that involves understanding Taiwanese politics. I get headaches thinking about their politicians when they say they are not China to most of the world, and they say they are the real China to countries like Haiti and Guatemala; as if they can’t make up their mind on who they are or want to be.
This video made me think about one of my fears waking up one day and seeing “Taiwan” trending. Not only for my han Chinese ethnic group, but also the indigenous people of the island. Our culture and accent has always been distinguishable from a mainland Chinese person, but most foreigners think we are all grouped together. I miss my culture being a international student that is actually from the US and people know I’m also American but I continue to hold on my Taiwanese identity whenever I can.
It’s not an invasion, it’s a unification. Taiwan Province of China is now divided by warlords, which cannot change its status as a province of China. Since mainland China cannot use chips from Taiwan Province, no one can use them.
Foreigners group them together because Taiwanese are 95% han Chinese by blood, even if they created their own culture and mixed with some indigenous folk. It doesn’t help that the UN doesn’t recognize Taiwan either. Hope it isn’t invaded tho
The silicon shield idea of Taiwan is very reminiscent of the part of the book "Foundation," specifically the Four Kingdoms that surround Terminus. None of those four kingdoms can subjugate the foundation for fear of reprisal from the others, because if any one kingdom took over Terminus, the other three would unify against them,
Wonder if it really is a shield if they're moving TSMC to the US. Besides, didnt the US promise to destroy TSMC in Taiwan in any Chinese invasion? Nice friends they have
@@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320 That assumes Taiwan hasn't said themselves they would rather destroy TSMC just to make sure China didn't benefit from it. So yes, the US is merely standing in solidarity with Taiwan against the violent evil that is China.
@@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320 Did you just get that you didn't understand what you were talking about and you said something really dumb? Or are you going to pretend you were always right and double down on your dumb somehow? It is going to be the second one isn't it?
@@thomgizziz you're the one who literally can't read English nor reply with a legitimate argument. Insanity plea isn't gonna work when they take you away bruh
Note, while China's navy has surpassed the U.S. in total number of ships.... many of them are small costal patrol vessels, vessels that would play exactly zero role in a Taiwan invasion. In terms of tonnage, the US still outclasses China by nearly threefold
They wouldn't play "no role" in the invasion, but their role would be limited to defending landing ships probably, the Taiwan strait is quite shallow and has a length of 100 miles to Taiwan, perfect for protection duty. The US will not go into the strait, the smaller vessels don't have the range, weaponry, and armor to engage the US ocean faring ships, so it won't be counted as part of the equipment the US has to worry about.
Note, if a war between China and Taiwan happens, it will be around China's "coast". So their "costal" fleet is perfectly designed for that 😂 Of course, if US wants to enter a total war with China next to the Chinese coast, I think China would welcome the chance to eradicate US influence from Asia once and for all ❤😂
@@Ghettofingeri believe they will be vital. most of the vessels are just not for blue waters, the strait is absolutely fine for them on regular weather (and no one is doing an invasion during a typhoon, monsoon or something). for the japanese islands they would have a bit of trouble i guess
@@Ghettofinger The US is an ocean away, whereas Taiwan is basically at China's doorstep. Should Israel's war spill over into the region as a whole, and combined with having to give most of the weapon and ammo stocks to Ukraine, don't count on Taiwan getting undivided attention from the West. And what about the land based anti-ship missiles China has? I believe it is the cardinal sin in war to underestimate your opponent. Look at what happened to Russia and Israel.
These comments wow. There's just so much to learn from the people of Taiwan. They've done so much with every resource available. It's really humbling to read. Thank you all for sharing.
@dpassch7 I also live right next to venezuela and my city is very close by, so their illegal inmigrants have swarmed in and now my city has a spike of crime rates...
UA-cam plays Tik Tok ads and Tik Tok is owned by the CCP. Thus the CCP partially controls UA-cam. You can never be sure when UA-cam won't bow under the pressure it's Chinese masters are exerting upon it.
China have the rights to defend itself from Taiwan terrorists groups. Just like Israel they shouldnt be forced to negociate with terrorists. China need to keep protecting its sovereignty over Taiwan terrorists.
100%...All there ships are gasoline powered (their only "nuclear" submarine just went boom if they even had one) and 50% of their military equipment is trash or just doesn't work properly. They would start of strong but crumble quickly, target their full ships and the rest become sitting ducks.
That’s a great response. Keeping the ships fueled shouldn’t be such a problem as Taiwan is so close to China. Would the US actually start to sink the “sitting ducks”? I wonder. More likely possibly that Taiwan would attack the mainland with missiles. Not sure.
@@walterzagieboylo6802Our navy could start an embargo too, China is an export orientated economy (it’s been the largest exporting country since 2009) and when that is cut off the Chinese economy will suffer greatly.
It’s very hard to imagine Japan, SEA, India will just sit idly by while China conducts its invasion of Taiwan. They have territorial disputes with China too.
The CCP was anti-American and anti-Soviet in the 1960s. PLA bombarded Taiwan’s Kinmen for 21 years from 1958 to 1979. CCP attacked India in 1962, armed Vietcong against US 1964 to 1975, funded communist revolutions in all Asia, Africa and Latin America, intervened in the Macau riots in 1966, intervened in the Hong Kong riots in 1967, and attacked the Soviet Union in 1969. It is difficult to imagine that China will only attack Taiwan, instead of makeing trouble in Ukraine, Israel, Cuba, Korea, Japan at the same time as it did in the 1960s?
Yeah, because if they do successfully conquer Taiwan, they would exert authority over Taiwan's administrative claims in the South China Sea, which is a no-no.
It is worth noting that before the 2020 Taiwan election, the KMT's presidential candidate had higher popularity then the current Taiwan DPP president, and the KMT candidate has pretty close ties with China and is also very pro-China, it is expected that if he was elected, a "peaceful" reunification between Taiwan and China would be further pushed. However, it is the 2019 black swan chain of political "events" in Hong Kong that has turned fhe whole Taiwan's political tide against China. The 2019 series of "civil unrest" or "riot", depending on your political perspective, has showed Taiwanese how will the Chinese government treat them if they proceed with the reunification with China, causing the public opinion to drastically change and resulting in that a peaceful "reunification" between Taiwan and China become extremely unlikely in the future.
Exact same thing happened in philippines. They practically had a popular pro-China government and sentiment, and almost anti-US. Then China started invading some of their little islands and claiming that the whole of that sea belonged to them, and even shot at them. Philippines government is now anti-China and have half a dozen new US bases and ready to team up with Taiwan.
I mean,the CCP has made terrible choices in the handing of covid and even their own people are done with it at their government's bs The Question tho,is if that's enough to wake up the masses and abandon communism entirely or if they will just pick another dictator Seriously,being punished for talking bad about the goverment is probably the sickest thing and I don't see why they put up with it
One pretty safe renewable energy source that Taiwan might be able to tap into is *geothermal energy.* They are a volcanic island with a lot of geothermal activity, so at least at an initial glance this could be their best bet. I hope they can become self sufficient in energy in the future! For such a modernized and progressive country, it's a real shame to see that they still have such a reliance on coal.
1. Taiwan isn't not a country according to UN, US, Australia, India, Brazil, South Africa, Saudi Arabia, France, Vietnam, etc...how delusional and ignorant are the English audience of UA-cam that I constantly see this blatant mistake being made in the comment section, yet almost nobody corrects them. It really shows the echo chamber effect 😂 2. Also, I think nuclear energy is better.
@@darthvadeth6290 Regardless of who acknowledges it as such, Taiwan is de facto a country even if not de jure. It cannot be denied that the ROC is autonomous of the PRC, even if each views the other as illegitimate.
@@darthvadeth6290 1.) you are an arrogant asshole. 2.) you would be right technically and it’s blatantly obvious so most people look past it because… 3.) diplomatically speaking no country recognizes Taiwan due to chinas history of genociding millions at no expense. So its easier to keep the game going because communists are greedy and if on paper its theirs they are happy. 4.) in reality on the ground, on the island they are a free and fair, independent state, that has no need for china.
@@darthvadeth6290 1: I'm pretty sure most people are aware that Taiwan is unrecognized, but let's be honest, it's just easier to call it a country, and it is a de-facto country anyways. 2: I think geothermal is interesting to look into; Iceland made it work. Sure, Iceland is a much smaller country, but I think it is an option that should be considered.
As a Taiwanese... constitutionally, we are claiming China as part of ROC... But big, BUT as a Taiwanese, we don't care about unification, as korean north south... We just want our way of life to go on as normal, as we did before the ROC came to Taiwan, before the Japanese, Qing Dynasty，Ming Dynasty，Dutch, Spanish，or before Portuguese name us Formosa! We just want our way of life to go on.
Your Chinese ethnically, why just not say that? Is that hard? I mean there are Two China’s, one totalitarian and one democratic. You are omitting 3000 years just because the commies won in mainland China…..
Nope, freedom in general not only "economic" freedom. It's called personal liberty. Mainland China has a surprising amount of economic freedom, companies, jobs, services, etc. What they have none of is personal freedom.
An anchorman of a Taiwan TV politic talk show said that before Chiangkaishek retreated to Taiwan, he was looking at both Taiwan and Hainan, and he had difficulty deciding which island to choose for his retreat. So, he visited a feng-shui master, who told him to choose Taiwan instead of Hainan, as Taiwan, facing the Mainland of China with its back, will never be taken by forces from the Mainland.
PHL will be invaded first and used as a platform to Island hop into Southern Taiwan and Taiwan will be unable to do much about it. It’s too easy to invade and control the Philippines.
fake news of BBC .Indeed Taiwan stomach is towards China mainland.Its mountains all towards USA side.And KMT always want to take mainland back again,but CPC keep strong,KMT then give up go back to mainland.
@@TheVineOfChristLives You fail to realize that China prefers good relations with everyone (for trade reasons) over conflict. Stop believing the drama of some American media & politicians, China has no intention of taking Taiwan, they were just flexing because Trump grossly offended them & they have an agreement with America about Taiwan that they were hinting at ending (while likely never actually having intended to end it, but just flexing because they can) To be blunt you should learn more about your country's history before you start putting labels on or making assumptions about other countries. Long story short China knows that attacking Taiwan or anyone else would just hurt their bottom line, and they prefer money over wars. EU calmed them down again pretty quickly when your orange moron pissed them off, there's nothing going on at the moment besides in the heads of some oddball 'patriots' in America.
@@TheVineOfChristLivesif the Phillipines get invaded why wouldn't a blockade of China not be the response? They would run out of oil to run the ships before they even looked at taiwan
Came to see war tactics and politcs, left with massive knowledge regarding importance of TSMC and semiconductors. I just love this channel that covers everything and not just 1 sector.
It's interesting that both those things aren't mutually exclusive - like he mentions, Taiwan's economic defense by being a critical producer of semiconductors provides the "silicon shield".
1) In 1894, Japan invaded China and Korea, the Qing govt was defeated and signed the [Treaty of Shimonoseki] to cede Taiwan Island to Japan. 2) During the WW2, at the Cairo Conference held in 1943, China asked the transfer of Taiwan's sovereignty back to China after the war. This content was included in the [Cairo Declaration] and later reiterated in the [Potsdam Proclamation] that it should be implemented. 3) In 14 Aug & 2 Sept 1945, the Emperor and govt of Japan issued the [End War Edict] and [Japanese Instrument of Surrender], Japan surrendered and accepted the [Potsdam Proclamation]. The Japanese troops in Taiwan surrendered to KMT General CKS. Taiwan re-entered the territory of the Republic of China (ROC). 4) Soon after that China civil war broke out in between KMT and CCP, the KMT was defeated and fled to Taiwan. However, due to US intervention, the CCP without strong navy at that time has no ability to unify Taiwan. The CCP then established the People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. The civil war continues..... 5) In 1971, UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN. That means the PRC is China’s only legal govt under international law. Today the PRC also become China’s only legal govt recognized by 181 countries around the world, including the USA. "The USA recognizes the Government of the PRC as the sole legal Government of China." "The USA acknowledges the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China." Joint Cummunique on the Establishment of Diplomatic relations between the PRC and the USA in 1979. Please refer to President Jimmy Carter's Speech on Relations with China. 6) Therefore, according to international law, international reality, and the wishes of the 1.4 billion Chinese people, Taiwan should return to PRC and the PRC have every rights to protect it's sovereign integrity.
As someone who is currently applying to jobs in chemical engineering, I was pleasantly surprised to know that one of the places I'm applying to is TSMC. Had no idea how huge and influential they are until watching this video
just in case you don't know about ASML either, they are similar to TSMC as being an unknown superpower as they are the company that makes the machines that make chips and wafers
Samsung Foundry 🇰🇷, Texas instruments 🇺🇲, TSMC 🇹🇼, ASML 🇳🇱, and probably one or two Japanese companies somewhere in there as well are very important for the world's tech
@@lawrencefrost9063 ignorant college student (if you were referring to me not knowing about TSMC), but i may have worded my comment a bit weirdly. What I was trying to say is I was pleasantly surprised to know that one of the places I'm applying to for jobs (TSMC) is actually a pretty cool company.
I mean, the global chip shortage also played a huge role in the US wanting to expand local manufacturing. And TSMC keeping their us manufacturing a generation behind isn’t that big a deal, since the actual volume demand on process nodes tends to be on last generation ones anyway. The cutting edge stuff is just what tends to end up in the news.
Yep the capability to produce cutting edge chips also has to do with ASML’s EUV lithography machines which allow fabs to manufacture chips at 3 nanometer scale. Intel is also slated to receive these machines in Arizona right next door to TSMC.
Taiwan's nuclear plants have been storing spent fuel (highly radioactive) in "temporary" storage pools within the nuclear plants themselves. As the storage pools are now completely filled up and the government still can't decide on a permanent solution, the plants are practically forced to retire. With that said, they're 70s technology and probably not a good idea to keep operating anyways.
Taiwan should load these materials into some ICBMs to have a weapon that can make MAD a reality. If Beijing wants to militarily annex Taiwan they'll have to be willing to lose Beijing itself, Shanghai, and another 30 million population worth of citie
@@BlahVideosBlahBlah That's not really at all how nuclear weapons work. For starters, Taiwan would need ICBMs, which is no small thing to produce and maintain. Second, you don't just stick spent nuclear material onto a rocket to make nuclear weapons, they need (among other things) precise materials that are purpose made using a specific type of reactor - which the Taiwanese plants may not even be. And while there are types of reactors that can recycle spent fuel rods toward making enriched material, I'm pretty sure Taiwan doesn't operate *those* types of reactors, as they're widely banned due to nuclear non-proliferation treaties. Even if they did, getting that reaction going is something that takes time and expertise, and would almost assuredly be noticed right away. It'd be a more likely reality for Taiwan to just borrow an American nuclear weapon for deterrence than to make their own, quite frankly. And that's assuming the people living there would be willing to entertain the idea. Not sure what the opinion of the Taiwanese is on nuclear weapons.
@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle You forget how bloodthirsty and jingoistic America was at the time. They practically let Bush invade Iraq. Also remember 'warrantless wiretapping'? I'd never imagine they'd let that pass- but it did. Democracy doesn't work if citizens don't participate, and only blaming the President- who people voted for- is just passing the buck. I admit there were Anti-War rallies, and the people who participated in those have my gratitude.
Yeah spent nuclear materials won't be nuclear bombs. But exploding it will scatter radioactive materials anyway rendering target irradiated and unsuitable to live in.
This is an Informative, well done, and well thought 💭🤔 out video with correct maps and charts to make it interesting. This person did his research and gives me more in-depth understanding on the importance of Taiwan on a global scale, the battle for Taiwan and howTaiwan can defend itself.
Here's a bit of perspective for Taiwan, regarding US bringing back chip manufacturing. This isn't the US abandoning Taiwan, it's the US being prepared with sufficient manufacturing capability necessary to continue any war effort basically indefinitely in event China attacks. Strategically, if China was committed to an attack and presence of TSMC plants were the only tie causing Taiwan's allies to be committed to defense, China could just make the plants priority targets to destroy themselves with airstrikes and missile bombardment. It'd anger Taiwan's allies, but once the plants are destroyed then the allies wouldn't have any incentive to assist if that's the only reason they were doing it. Meanwhile, the entire world will be more than happy to increase consumption of high tech products and continue to trade with Taiwan to buy as much as they can get even if the US boosts manufacturing levels.
The CCP was anti-American and anti-Soviet in the 1960s. PLA bombarded Taiwan’s Kinmen for 21 years from 1958 to 1979. CCP attacked India in 1962, 1967, CCP armed Vietcong against US 1964 to 1975, funded all communist revolutions in Asia, Africa and Latin America, intervened in the Macau riots against Portugese in 1966, intervened in the Hong Kong riots against UK in 1967, and even attacked the Soviet Union in 1969. It is difficult to imagine that China will only attack Taiwan, instead of making trouble in Ukraine, Israel, Cuba, Korea, Japan for US at the same time as it did in the 1960s? Of course China will retaliate.
Correction: You count individual boats for largest navy. USA is still largest by tonnage. So even if we count the boats that are not really navy USA still has more boat in the water.
@jntiger1981 one of the 2 two new aircraft carriers they just built got a huge crack in the runway after a month in the ocean. Even if...and its a big if...they put investment into putting that tonnage into the water quality of the ships would still leave the US with a far larger fighting navy. Remember boat that you can throw soldiers on does not = a warship.
@@pfc_churchThere wasn't a crack, you are just making that up. Whenever people bring up tonnage, people counter it with the fact that China fucks the US in shipbuilding capacity. Then you try to play the "made in China" card and it doesn't work. Repeat.
@@jntiger1981putting metal in the ocean does not equate anywhere close to a cutting edge warfare navy. It’s like saying that china being able to build 20 times the number of airplanes as the US means that they have the best Air Force. Building 20 passenger jets doesn’t give you the ability to shoot down one f-35. Building 20 patrol boats doesn’t give you the ability to kill an Arleigh Burke
@@ExHyperion You can look up the latest 12,000 tonne type 055 destroyer China built. The first batch of 8 ships was completed in a matter of 4 years, it has 112 VLS launchers with dual band phases array radar which no current U.S. destroy can compete. The 2nd batch of 8 ships are being built as we speak
Thx a lot for informing us about "upcoming" conflicts! At the same time being so nervous in your voice, talking so fast throughout an entire hour even "panicing" and agitating, you are more part of the problem then part of the solution
Militarily, Taiwan’s geography and defence capabilities make it a very tough target. A land invasion would require a huge effort that China would be foolish to attempt, if they were successful in winning a naval and air war first. China’s invasion would be as disaster out as Russia’s. I think Russian failures, and isolation on the world stage, have been a sobering realization for China.
somebody, please, make a plugin for my browser, which can open those invisible messages in the UA-cam comment section. I can see that there is 1 comment, but when I click on More, the comment does not show up. UA-cam is ghost banning people for writing comments. That's why some server and script should walk through the comment section, and backup those comments.
I think China will simply be more prepared. They’re playing to win the numbers game since their population is 3x larger. Because the US military is dispersed, a first strike can put local allied forces on their back heel. If Chinese area denial tech works, it would make reinforcing Taiwan from Hawaii, Guam, or California very difficult. Then, they just have to bomb taiwan into submission.
@@riderchallenge4250I disagree, if you are a smaller nation, you are still subject to waves of global events. For example, when France blockaded the tax haven Monaco, what could Monaco do? Same goes for Panama, Venezuela, and Cuba. Globalization has more or less connectioned all of us together so you are either on a drivers seat or in for the ride.
This is the most comprehensive video on the subject that I have found on the Internet so far. Thanks! May Taiwan and its wonderful people never have to endure any invasion!
this was so so soo good, you where explainign everything with a fast pace but even for me that i am not english everything was easily understandable. history is just soo fascinating
Very educational video! I lived in Taiwan for two years as a missionary. It was under martial law back then, so I was well aware of the risks. This video helps me understand the situation, if I ever went back. Thanks.
Thanks very much for this illuminating video. One additional detail, if I may: from my understanding manufacturing chips is only possible because of a very special machine built in the Netherlands which in return depends on very very special mirrors produced in Germany. Without these machines manufacturing advanced chips would not be possible. I feel there are so many dependencies that the consequences of an attack cannot be calculated. It will come down to what Chinese leadership will command - for whatever reason. May God help us all.
@hendrike3092 @RealLifeLofe yes the video part about the early development of semiconductor technology and production of equipment has a lot of mistakes. Like you said the only real manfucaturer of machines is Netherlands and the only real manufacture or mirrors is German Zeiss but the chain is much longer.
Taiwan buys most of its arms and war equipment from the US... well. To be accurate, the US tells Taiwan what its going to sell them and the Taiwanese open their pockets...
@@jntiger1981 I'm not sure what DJI means and I'd love to see China try to run 100K drones and UAVs lol. They are going to use missiles because missiles are easy to use. Aim and fire. Not remote operate million dollar drones that they are barely able to man. How many drone operators in China even have experience on real drone operations? Can't be a lot, unless China is going on invasion sprees in africa and antarctica and everybody refuses to talk about it.
What he said about Ukraine was only half correct at the beginning of the invasion because while Ukraine did stop Russia, using drones, MANPADS, and a much more mobile army, they also used plenty of artillery, which destroyed most of the vehicles. Since then, Ukraine has used plenty of vehicles and artillery mainly because of Western supplies. In the south, Ukraine stopped concentrating many vehicles in one massive push because drones, satellites, and people with phones make it almost impossible to hide such large formations. Also, this tactic relies heavily on air supremacy and surprise, which Ukraine still needs to get. Evidence of this is the recent Russian push near Avdiivka, which has been demolished, and the Winter push near Vuhledar, which was also repelled. Due to this, Ukraine attacks using company-sized units supported by some vehicles and artillery, so the counter-offensive goes slowly.
Ukraine also isn't using massed armour due to the minefield and defensive lines. If they are at some point able to breakthrough it (and can prevent Russia from re-establishing it/place a new one in time, they'll likely send in a massed armour assault to attack the flanks/backs of the line and push on through to take as much ground as possible.
Fantastic video! I work for Intel in Arizona, so I've been paying close attention to the TSMC FAB being built on the other side of town and it is also highly controversial in the state. Lately because of them wanting to bring in Taiwanese construction workers and thus pissing off the local unions but also for the fact you mentioned that it will only be building last gen chips, something the new FABs Intel is building here are trying to get away from. They're part of our new foundry service and will be servicing our new next gen chips with heavy funding from the CHIPS act. Overall the state government likes it because of the increased jobs and economy boost, Intel will publicly say it welcomes the competition, though obviously they don't. It means less people for them to hire and harder to retain, I personally know several engineers that left for TSMC. TSMC's founder has also said the "globalization" of the chip manufacturing is over, so seems very real that he knows the "silicone shield" may or is coming to an end, probably in the next decade or so. Especially as Intel continues it's 5 nodes in 4 years, which we are(for now) on track to complete, it's heavy investments in Arizona, Oregon, Ohio, Poland, Ireland, and considering an investment increase in Vietnam. They are poised to drag American companies away from TSMC like they somewhat have with new agreements with Google and Microsoft.
The best YT channel for chip manufacturing is Asiamonetry. He obviously works in the business in both US and Taiwan. According to his videos, the easy part is throwing billions of dollars to construct the factory. Finding the right talent to run the show is magnitudes harder.
@@LtdJorge But it's also a contingency, it gives them a location where they can re-establish their best fabs in the event that Taiwan does fall. it's an open secret that TSMC will destroy any fabs and tech that they can't ship out if it looks like Taiwan will fall.
Considering that the ROC was in power in China before the rise of the PRC Taiwan is correct in their assertion that the mainland is who is in a state of rebellion, not the island of Taiwan. Historically having a government in exile is not a unique situation, and they do sometimes return to power.
If I had to guess, the point of the export restrictions the US imposed on US based plans is a short term gain, long term loss plan, similar to how you discussed China's economy would be affected. However, I think it might be aimed at keeping the PRC from invading the island long enough such that they reach the point of decline, and reach the point of being unable to invade
@@tianxiabai1185 America did not mandate the murder of millions of babies. China did. Now the Chinese working population is about to massively decline. America might be politically unstable right now, but at least our decline might be averted by a couple strong leaders. Chinese decline is all but guarantied by their demographic statistics.
Taiwan actually belongs to the Indigenous peoples of the island! The indigenous people of Taiwan have been there for 10000 years!!!! They are the true owners of Taiwan!
Last week a documentary was released called Invisible Nation, about Tsai Ing-Wen and the struggles Taiwan has gone through to maintain their pseudo-independence from China.
if the KMT was the one winning the election, i doubt we have the situation at hand today... i don't see PRC pushing or even rushing the issue of reunification if they never had to worry about ROC declaring independence... tit for tat kind of situation, what DPP does is pushing their agenda too far (probably too early as well) and its now too late to back out of.
"Russian components, American components, they are all made in TAIWAN!" The cosmonaut in the movie Armageddon. That scene was so true (at least at the time) it got stuck in my head forever.
The problem for the PRC isn't their own dependency on Taiwanese microchips but NATO's dependency on Taiwanese microchips. While Taiwan isn't part of NATO and, in fact, isn't even recognized as an independent country by most of NATO it could still be effectively considered as a NATO member state purely because heavv NATO interference in a Chinese-Taiwanese war would be all but guaranteed. The current Ukraine conflict has more than proven NATO's willingness to interfere in a conflict which only really affects it geo-politically. A war over Taiwan would also affect NATO economically so direct interference, as opposed to just material and financial support, would be very likely.
@@recoil53 Yes,we Taiwanese always keep the truth in mind“if your value is decreasing,no one would like to give you a hand.”which always be laughed at by Chinese due to our overreliance on America in military.
A note about the size of the Chinese navy. Look at the tonnage not the number of ships, they're mostly a coastal defense fleet not a blue water navy like the USA
A small correction, we do have oil in Taiwan I think, and it’s still in production. It’s very little and I don’t think most of Taiwanese people know about it, but it’s there
Germany also plays a part, the dutch can´t make their lithographer without Carl Zeiss, only company in the world making lenses precise enough for high end lithographing and also being in a joint venture with the dutch.
You can't prevent others from amassing destructive power. The best you can do is make enough friends with enough destructive power to fight back, or at least encourage them to negotiate. But the destructive power will be created, one way or another.
It depends on what you consider the invasion of Normandy. Most people consider it to be the funneling of allied troops into France during the month of June, 1944. Not just June 6
It should also be noted that whilst the PRC does indeed have a huge army, much of it is needed simply to maintain the border. Furthermore, Taiwan probably does have nuke capability right now if only a couple of warhead equivalents.
You didn't mention that the US could easily blocade mainland China if they tried to blocade Taiwan. Combined with Taiwan's military deterance and the US and Japanese forces, the incentive for invasion is drastically reduced because the costs go up exponentially.
Not only that but the silicone used in the highest end chips requires an absurd purity and over 90% of all this silicone comes from one place in South Carolina. China has to go through the US no matter what. One of the reasons it's in South Carolina is because the silica is naturally very pure and much of the best glass in the world comes from the same area. Certainly other countries can get silicone to a certain level of purity but past a certain point requires a lot of American tech.
@@wasntme3651 it is. Light sensitive silicone. It's how the layers and gaps are made for the gold wiring. The silicone needs basically zero impurities for this to work. Hydorflouric acid is used to remove the silicone as well.
@@wasntme3651 no I mean silicone. Yes very pure silicon is also used but silicone is used as the material that dissolves under hydroflouric acid. Since chips are several layers of silicon and the gold wiring needs to fill in 3D space, silicone is the disposable place holder for the wires. If there are impurities they get on the chip and prevent the wires from being placed properly creating resistance in different parts of the chip which will cause the chips to light on fire. The smaller the chip the less tolerance for impurities in the silicone and the silicon
Some introductory graphics might help the clarity of the beginning words. I had to rewind 3 times to hear the date you were trying to say. Not that it's an issue, I just think it would be nice to have.
I think the only way Taiwan can be sure it won't be attacked is to get nuclear weapons. I don't like the idea of nuclear proliferation but we have witnessed that it works. It is a shame that it is this way but at least Taiwan would only be in the place to protect their territorial integrity.
It is the thinking like this that starts world wars. You should view events in the eyes of people who could be affected, not a distant observer (no one is safe).
@@matthewreynolds4382 yes, but much like Israel, they could do it in secret. Also even if they did find out, like with North Korea, Iran, India and Pakistan it is one thing to be angry and introduce sanctions but it is another thing to actually invade. A. As it stands China seems to be planning to invade at some point. B. Even if Taiwan got the nuke and China found out before it was ready they would still be just as difficult to invade as they are now. C. Once the nuke is ready then they are untouchable. I mean the video basically spells out all the different approaches taken to try and protect themselves from invasion, and how they are all vulnerable. Nukes seem to work. I mean even when it comes to Iran the US hasn't invaded despite a few air raids targeting specific infrastructure.
@@ProffyChaos Yep, this is true. I'd say it's likely that China has a very strong network of spies within Taiwan that would almost certainly uncover a nuclear weapons program. But absolutely, nuclear weapons would keep China off the island.
@@matthewreynolds4382 How? It will antagonize China, but not enough to invade. The U.S. didn't invade North Korea when they had nuclear weapons, even though they easily could have.
I dont think China are disappointed with all the cheap fuel they are getting. Or the increased access to resources in the sparsely populated Eastern Russia.
I have a clarification: China can only claim to have the most boats of any Navy because it counts every single ship no matter how small. By displacement, the US Navy is twice the total size, and their total ship count is lower because they don't include any ship smaller than a destroyer. There's also all the ships owned by the US Marines that aren't included in the Navy's count
I think since China’s public boat construction it’s kind of legit they have the largest navy
I remember reading somewhere that the largest measures of ownership of some millitary tech or asset will tend to be some order of the different branches of the US military before getting to different countries.
I know it's the case for number of planes and munitions
Plus their military hardware is a bunch of junk, their big aircraft carrier can't move without tug boats. They just lost a nuke sub and all aboard
as it hit bottom. Their copied US fighter jets don't work right. Smaller things must have problems too, as contractors cut cost in production.
They would be wiped out in the first weeks of real war with US and allies who have real weapons.
@@icebaby6714 I hope for china's sake they don't use the same terrible steel that they've been building the tofu drege houses out of. This isn't sarcasm either, I seriously hope they look out for their servicemen by making sure their ships are built to the highest standard.
@@icebaby6714"mega ships"? 😂😂😂 bro wtf that's not even a real term
As someone who leaves in Taiwan, we just want peace, whatever it looks like, might it be keeping the status quo, or independence. We just want to keep enjoying the achievements made in here
Lives*
@@MrPeterPanto live is to leaf
Why did you “leave” taiwan?
@@Warawarayadnusbcause China
If Taiwan just wants peace why do they keep taking US weapons?
The mastermind behind Taiwan's semiconducter plan was then-minister of economic Affairs Yun-suan Sun and former RCA engineer Wen-Yuan Pan. Sun was tasked by then-premier Chiang Ching-kuo to identify a technological field that would suit Taiwan, and over one breakfast in 1974, Pan persuded Sun that Semiconductors were the way to go.
Sun used his position as Minister to seek out and persude talents (especially Taiwanese working abroad) to join the cause, while Pan used his old contacts at RCA to ink a 10 year deal that would allow Taiwan to manufacture low-end chips for RCA televisions. These efforts culminated in Taiwan's first domestic 3-in silicon wafer in 1977.
UMC and TSMC entered the picture much later, with UMC first in 1980, and TSMC later in 1985. Morris Chang, as the video stated, was the one that introduced the concept of a fab, but he was not really as prominent in Taiwan's semicon history as the video suggests. By the time TSMC entered production, Taiwan was already a thriving chip manufacturing hub with UMC at the helm.
Therefore Pan is usually considered the father of Taiwanese IC industry, not Morris Chang, despite Chang's outsized contributions to Taiwan's position today.
Hey great info in this comment! Are you aware of any videos like real life lore that talk about this kind of info?
Check out the book Chip War if you haven't read it yet.
@@lasthope909 There's a lot of documentary style videos about this on UA-cam
10/10 comment thank you!
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As a Taiwanese with friends and families working for TSMC, I just want to mention that despite the many criticisms around the TSMC’s foundry in the US and the threat to US’s willingness to protect Taiwan in the event of an invasion, the foundry they built in the US is leagues behind the foundries in Taiwan in terms of what they make. TSMC effectively out-source the manufacturing of the last generation of semiconductors (4nm) to the US, so the foundries in Taiwan can focus on the next generation (3nm). By the time the first TSMC US foundry starts actually churning out semiconductors (estimate to be 2025), the foundry in Taiwan is going to be two generations ahead (2nm). Even with the newly announced second US foundry and its 3nm manufacturing ability which is shooting to start production in 2026, there are still years before it starts to actually join the supply chain and catches up to what Taiwan’s foundries have already been making right now, which are currently used in the iPhone 15 series.
Most of the criticisms coming from inside the TSMC itself is on the fact that manufacturing in the US will drastically increase the cost, and the integration of US work culture and Taiwanese management is not going to go well. (The production process of semiconductors requires 24/7 monitoring, which means that most of the engineers in TSMC are, though well-compensated, highly over-worked.) These worries have been proven to be true from the fact that the US foundry’s production timeline has been delayed many times.
I think that's just good buiness, to make the market bigger is a benefit to Taiwan. But if you let another business/country become better than the founder, you lose your tactical edge.
This assumption that Taiwan will be ahead 2 generations does forget to take into consideration the assumed risk that comes with being inventive. There is a chance the Taiwan company takes a big hit to start producing 2nm chips, but they have decided the luxury product companies will more than pay for any disruption they might find.
Taiwan may start two generations ahead, both of which I would add will have unknown yields and stability in production as designs rapidly close in on quantum tunneling complications, but frankly it's doubtful they will remain generations behind, especially considering the technology roadmap for silicone is coming to an end with as yet no clear next generation technology to replace it. The US and Europe need a hedge against the worst case scenario, and have both the resources and will to build such. TSMC has done an incredible job, and I hope it remains the dominant market player for decades to come because it is cost effective and efficient, but it would be foolish in the extreme to think the US is incapable of building security into its technology pipeline by building capacity. There will be costs, there will be pain, but it will happen, because it must happen.
@MunkeyBrewster Unfortunately the US doesn't possess the work ethic and process improvement required to step forward as efficiently as the Taiwanese. Their culture is unified, not divided up for political purposes either.
@@skullhart Mm, agree to disagree. I don't think people making that bet in the past saw dividends on the sentiment. Of course, every situation is a new and unique circumstance, but I see no reason to be pessimistic about our chances. Still, only time will tell I suppose.
@persona2grata I worked in several aerospace manufacturing companies. We utilized an ACE (achieving competitive excellence) model which was essentially 6 sigma. The plants in China consistently made ACE gold when our facilities could BARELY even meet the minimum criteria. Their work ethic and consistency absolutely destroyed any plant we had in the US or EU. Our US employees earned over 2x the compensation as well. So this is one example I can personally confirm as 100% true. Consider also why so many other products are made in China and overseas. AND now the largest auto manufacturer is in China.
Credit where credit is due, Taiwan's idea and movement to become one of the largest semiconductor manufacture during a time where computers where rising for foreign protection was smart.
smart? now china wants it even more....
Taiwan Province of China is now divided by warlords, which cannot change its status as a province of China. Since mainland China cannot use chips from Taiwan Province, no one can use them.
@@kingwing3203 Did they let you past the firewall?
@@thijsg717no he works for them
@@kingwing3203i mean, we westerners can use them and I am very sure China uses them too just like europe uses russian oil, just not labeled as russian
This video is exactly what I’m trying to explain every time someone brings up the topic of China invading Taiwan. If you remember the chip shortage during COVID you know what even a very tiny disruption of that supply chain can cause. Now imagine if 60-90% of all chip production suddenly gone, that would surely be an economic catastrophe never seen before and hardly even imaginable…
I'm prepared to read a map and wash my own dishes again. In fact, I think it would be a good idea.
@@tomfoolery5680 I get what you’re saying and don’t disagree but it’s not like existing electronics would magically stop working.
Nobody really NEEDS to get new electronics every year like new iPhones each year. It would have an economic impact buts it’s not like we’d be sent to the Stone Age the way people seem to think
is the chip shortage due to taiwan exporting less chip... or china? this is what most people fail to understand, China produce almost as many chip as Taiwan does... China produce more chip than US does... world has been lied to...
@@lagrangewei >_> what where on qanon did you source that information
wtf are you talking about, China imports most of its microtechnology from the States. They just build cheap production-line garbage there, not invent anything of value.
I love how every stock video of a fab in this, even the 300mm footage, is practically ancient history from a semiconductor perspective. The unspoken truth of any advanced fab is how secretive they are. Even layout or equipment vendor labels would suggest certain details about design and technology that advanced fabs need to keep secret.
If you count Intel's current fabs as not being ancient (which you may or may not) then LTT did a video of inside a current Intel fab, and it looked similar to these videos.
@@aaardvaaark they were only allowed in little bits and loads of it was blurred anyways
What's your point..??
How do you spell DUH..?
Even much more minor stuff is protected. You can't film the place in the M&M factory that prints the "M".
@@aaardvaaark I work in a fab, thanks. I know what I’m looking at here. I could probably tell you what half these things do just looking at the face plate and footprint. This is all pretty old stuff.
Binge watching this series all day. Damn, earphone at work as well. There’s a well laid out explanation of problems in these.
The new American foundries aren't meant to be able to replace Taiwan. They only aim to reduce the blow if Taiwan is invaded and prevent the US from being totally screwed in the short-term. Like you said Taiwan will always be the producers of the most advanced nodes so there is no such thing as replacing them outright - therefore their security is still strategically paramount to the US and EU.
It's American tech, if China invades America burns everything down before defending their friends.
It's also a lot better if the war for Taiwan lasts for a while that the US military whose ever more reliant on semiconductor technology to not have their own means supplying themselves be so vulnerable !
@@TheMiracleMatterTSMC gambled on ASML. They also cluster their suppliers. Any technology leader can be fast followed or copied.
@@mefobills279everyone gambled on ASML, lol. They’re the only producer of EUV machines in the world.
This is exactly why the US has no business at all interfering. Until and unless everyone can produce the most advanced chips, war after war is inevitable. Screw what is paramount to the US or the EU. Unless we start thinking about what paramount to everyone is, to the entire world, we will continually fall into war after war after war until someone gets tired of losing and resorts to nuclear weapons. Or worse., and there are things worse than nuclear weapons.
To be fair to the weakening of the Silicon Shield, Europe also believed that the economic relationship with Russian gas would deter Russia from aggression, and that has failed abysmally.
Taiwans near semiconductor monopoly is magnitudes more important to the global economy than Russias gas. You can very easily drill for fossils if you have the deposits but the manufacturing of semi-conductors can take years to decades to develop. We see the EU and US just now slowly starting to ramp up production again but even with imported technology it will take forever to create significant manufacturing hubs. And even they'll be very unlikely even remotely competitive to Taiwan for a long time.
If China would take over Taiwan tomorrow they would control more than 75% of all semi-conductor manufacturing, without most developed countries having an alternative for a very long time. This would give China near infinite economic leverage, like they could practically disarm the US military this way.
So for the moment it isn't just an economic relation but pretty much the technological independence of the West. And that's not a case for chance for any rational world leader.
You have that backwards with Russia who depended on the European market and then getting slowly cut out with the emergence of Ukraine's gas and oil industries.
@@atlasreturns1793 Huawei's new Mate 60 Pro proves that Taiwan is not indispensable and will become less relevant as China advances it semiconductor lithography processes. You can't be #1 forever as the West and Taiwan is finding out the hard way.
You've missed some important news. Putin wanted peace, Zelensky refused. The US war machine, of which Zelensky is puppet, is the problem both in Ukraine and in Taiwan.
@@bobsmith3983 Hello from the China Uncensored comment section, mr. bot.
Semiconductor industry is not just another industry that you can easily rebuild elsewhere in the world.
1) it relies on tens thousands of highly trained engineers and IP which are currently possessed by Taiwan especially TSMC. Taiwan has world most complete semiconductor ecosystem
2) it’s capital intensive. Each plant costs upwards of $10 billion and 2 years to build. The new TSMC Arizona plant is not going to be financially profitable due to various reasons. It is projected to have output of 20,000 chips per month whereas total TSMC output is 1,200,000 per month. It will take the world hundreds of billions dollars and a decade to replace what is lost in Taiwan
It's 20,000 wafers per month, 20,000 chips per month is a joke. Also the damage to Chinese economy that the invasion of Taiwan would bring will be much bigger than some semiconductor crisis... It's bad when you have limited supply of newest microchips but when you can't import coal to generate electricity or food to feed the people it's existential problem.
Holy shit i didnt know that
thank you for the break down! i knew making my stupid iphone would become prohibitively expensive for a rube like me due to nebulous “supply chain issues,” and that’s where my knowledge ended- until i found you 😃
Those foundries are rigged to blow in the event of an invasion. Almost guaranteed and China probably knows it.
Taiwan Province of China is now divided by warlords, which cannot change its status as a province of China. Since mainland China cannot use chips from Taiwan Province, no one can use them.
I am an asian American, born in California but I travel between Taiwan and the us quite often. Although my family is from Hong Kong, many of my relatives live in Taiwan. From my understanding, most people just dont really want to deal with china. They want things to continue as they are, they’re content not being completely independent as long as china doesn’t start forcing anything upon them.
Sadly I don’t think Xi Jinping has the same ideals
But that ambivalence is the problem. This status quo isn't even really legal. Until Taiwan declares independence properly, China will always have a right to assert their control over it. If you really want peace, you have to act.
@@David-ud9ju what on earth are you talking about?
You think there's some legal procedure Taiwan can perform that will somehow handcuff the Chinese military and prevent them from ever invading?
You do realize that sovereign nations get invaded all the time right? When a country gets invaded they can't just go to some international court to prove they declared independence and have the invader kicked out.
What you're suggesting is literally what provokes the Chinese into wanting to invade.
There was a real commitment from China to let Hong Kong handle itself far more than they've delivered. Taiwan wouldn't even be starting with any promises. It won't go well.
@@samuelspace101 可悲的是蔡英文，从来不这样认为
I remember being taught that many factors of the global economy were designed to make war much more difficult. The transistor factories location makes war difficult, it is by design.
well, they said the same things about Germany and other states importing much of their energy from Russia. But now the official position seems to be "that was really dumb, we should've never been reliant on Russia".
It's always good when it works out well but when it doesn't it was always a bad plan from the start. Whether this applies to this situation only time will tell
@@Loeffelluxyou should be a politician! you managed to say nothing in all that text
@@ericsilver9401 yikes, some people are just allegric to nuance, I guess
Theoretically, if you make yourself a valuable trade partner to all sides, you are less likely to be invaded. However, we are currently seeing that plan fall through in a few different places. Hell, just look at Hawaii.
@Loeffellux From that perspective, there's no such thing as a good plan. All plans will eventually come undone. These policies kept relative peace between the major world economies for decades, increased prosperity, and allowed diplomacy between countries who had been enemies for centuries. They were not bad plans.
I love the use of Civ 6 symbols for units and map districts. Been playing it a lot lately and they weirdly helped contextualize what was being said that much easier.
Lol I was thinking the same thing xD
Civ 6 might just be a game, but it certainly helped me understand a decent amount of global politics 😅
Been playing that franchise since Civ 1! As a teen it taught me so much 🤓
Only ever played Civ V, have played that game for several years. Still one of my favorite games!
Maybe instead of relying on funny symbols from popular video games to show what he's talking about, the author could've just condensed his points while writing the video, so that it didn't end up as word salad.
I'm a taiwanese who never left this place since the day I was born, I have to say that we are truly not prepared for a war, our generation had no experiences, and the most confusing thing for us is that, we don't even know what our identity truly is, people who support independence are considered "radical" somehow according to the society by and large, and there's also people claiming themselves as people of the ROC, which whether appeal to peace with china or just want to reconquer the lost land(or you just reckon that we cannot deny what was written in the constitution); of course, whoever we are, most people are pacifists and don't want the war to affect our lives, some even ignoring the likelihood for it to occur...
I really hope that the war is just nothing but a boast, but if it were to happen, I wish all taiwanese can stand up for themselves just for the sake of protecting our homeland.
你觉得有多少人会为台独而战，即使支持台独的人
Hi, are there channels you would recommend to show what life in Taiwan is like?
The same thing applied to Ukraine. A large portion of them considered themselves Russian, as it was the language they spoke. But from the day rockets start hitting your home, you'll know which team you're on.
As an overseas Chinese trying to understand the complexity of PRC/ROC issue, the ROC/Taiwan side imo always looks like it is two-faced and filled with contradictions that involves understanding Taiwanese politics. I get headaches thinking about their politicians when they say they are not China to most of the world, and they say they are the real China to countries like Haiti and Guatemala; as if they can’t make up their mind on who they are or want to be.
Wait, but doesnt your passport say ROC?
This video made me think about one of my fears waking up one day and seeing “Taiwan” trending. Not only for my han Chinese ethnic group, but also the indigenous people of the island. Our culture and accent has always been distinguishable from a mainland Chinese person, but most foreigners think we are all grouped together. I miss my culture being a international student that is actually from the US and people know I’m also American but I continue to hold on my Taiwanese identity whenever I can.
Taiwan is part of China, read Potsdam Declaration and Carol Declaration. And many Taiwanese Han were immigrated from the mainland China for a fact.
It’s not an invasion, it’s a unification. Taiwan Province of China is now divided by warlords, which cannot change its status as a province of China. Since mainland China cannot use chips from Taiwan Province, no one can use them.
@@kingwing3203 ok shill
Foreigners group them together because Taiwanese are 95% han Chinese by blood, even if they created their own culture and mixed with some indigenous folk. It doesn’t help that the UN doesn’t recognize Taiwan either. Hope it isn’t invaded tho
TV 😅So sad and so misplaced from your han group. Is it also the same with not belonging to qny Us groups except t;he poor churches?
The silicon shield idea of Taiwan is very reminiscent of the part of the book "Foundation," specifically the Four Kingdoms that surround Terminus. None of those four kingdoms can subjugate the foundation for fear of reprisal from the others, because if any one kingdom took over Terminus, the other three would unify against them,
Wonder if it really is a shield if they're moving TSMC to the US. Besides, didnt the US promise to destroy TSMC in Taiwan in any Chinese invasion? Nice friends they have
@@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320 That assumes Taiwan hasn't said themselves they would rather destroy TSMC just to make sure China didn't benefit from it.
So yes, the US is merely standing in solidarity with Taiwan against the violent evil that is China.
@@goldsilvervscrisiscollapse4320 Did you just get that you didn't understand what you were talking about and you said something really dumb? Or are you going to pretend you were always right and double down on your dumb somehow? It is going to be the second one isn't it?
@@cat-vv9xb lol quit lying. Taiwan leadership was shocked by the US statement
@@thomgizziz you're the one who literally can't read English nor reply with a legitimate argument. Insanity plea isn't gonna work when they take you away bruh
Note, while China's navy has surpassed the U.S. in total number of ships.... many of them are small costal patrol vessels, vessels that would play exactly zero role in a Taiwan invasion. In terms of tonnage, the US still outclasses China by nearly threefold
They wouldn't play "no role" in the invasion, but their role would be limited to defending landing ships probably, the Taiwan strait is quite shallow and has a length of 100 miles to Taiwan, perfect for protection duty. The US will not go into the strait, the smaller vessels don't have the range, weaponry, and armor to engage the US ocean faring ships, so it won't be counted as part of the equipment the US has to worry about.
Note, if a war between China and Taiwan happens, it will be around China's "coast". So their "costal" fleet is perfectly designed for that 😂
Of course, if US wants to enter a total war with China next to the Chinese coast, I think China would welcome the chance to eradicate US influence from Asia once and for all ❤😂
@@Ghettofingeri believe they will be vital. most of the vessels are just not for blue waters, the strait is absolutely fine for them on regular weather (and no one is doing an invasion during a typhoon, monsoon or something).
for the japanese islands they would have a bit of trouble i guess
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂any more boasting? Ask taliban
@@Ghettofinger The US is an ocean away, whereas Taiwan is basically at China's doorstep. Should Israel's war spill over into the region as a whole, and combined with having to give most of the weapon and ammo stocks to Ukraine, don't count on Taiwan getting undivided attention from the West.
And what about the land based anti-ship missiles China has? I believe it is the cardinal sin in war to underestimate your opponent. Look at what happened to Russia and Israel.
It’s crazy how you can continuously make almost hour long videos and not have any filler
They probably have a UA-cam video sweatshop filled with researchers
As a Dutchie I can relate to the TSMC shield, we have their machine supplier ASML, no one's touching Eindhoven.
To be fair, I sincerely doubt that there's any country that has both the capability and desire to take Eindhoven for themselves anyway.
Few countries could find the Netherlands anyway 😂 We are very small, surrounded by much larger, more appealing targets.
ASML is in Veldhoven not Eindhoven
This is such an advantageful glitch for Taiwan, hopefully the developers won't be patching this glitch so soon.
That is such a funny comment!
Advantageful? You mean advantageous?
Advantagable might be the right word here
Unfortunately Unity's ToS retroactively charges a sum of 20% revenue for any updates made and therefore this patch will be removed soon.
@scarletgoat173 I dont think you know what channel you are on lol
These comments wow. There's just so much to learn from the people of Taiwan. They've done so much with every resource available. It's really humbling to read. Thank you all for sharing.
Realifelore sometimes makes me scared about the future but at the same time the channel helps me appreciate living in the Bahamas.
Next video: How the Bahamas are on the BRINK of COLLAPSE
You should probably not look up climate change and sea level rise then. It doesn't look good for the Bahamas tbh
@@YDdraigGoch43always gotta be afraid of something, eh 🙄
@dpassch7 I also live right next to venezuela and my city is very close by, so their illegal inmigrants have swarmed in and now my city has a spike of crime rates...
@@YDdraigGoch43 And ocean acidification, ocean temperatures, or coral reef die offs.
I love the way you say compulsorary twice with such confidence, I actually had to check. It’s compulsory 😅
The original title is "How Taiwan Will Stop China's Invasion" for the lore masters out there.
still is
@@marc_frank It might not be in the future. OP is a visionary.
I only watched this video in anticipation of a title change
UA-cam plays Tik Tok ads and Tik Tok is owned by the CCP. Thus the CCP partially controls UA-cam. You can never be sure when UA-cam won't bow under the pressure it's Chinese masters are exerting upon it.
China have the rights to defend itself from Taiwan terrorists groups. Just like Israel they shouldnt be forced to negociate with terrorists. China need to keep protecting its sovereignty over Taiwan terrorists.
A strict embargo by naval encirclement is more likely than invasion. Could the US with Taiwan overcome such an embargo? That is the question.
Taiwan airlift...
100%...All there ships are gasoline powered (their only "nuclear" submarine just went boom if they even had one) and 50% of their military equipment is trash or just doesn't work properly. They would start of strong but crumble quickly, target their full ships and the rest become sitting ducks.
That’s a great response. Keeping the ships fueled shouldn’t be such a problem as Taiwan is so close to China.
Would the US actually start to sink the “sitting ducks”? I wonder.
More likely possibly that Taiwan would attack the mainland with missiles.
Not sure.
@@walterzagieboylo6802Our navy could start an embargo too, China is an export orientated economy (it’s been the largest exporting country since 2009) and when that is cut off the Chinese economy will suffer greatly.
@@Orbitalresonancefrequenciesbruh how will you do that though isn't China big like litterly big it has other areas that it can export
Gotta love the pivot from "TikTok is part of China's digital warfare arsenal" to "Use NordVPN to access TikTok" 😂
IKR. Makes you question the motives of the channel as a whole after that.
True, I’m liking this channel less and less…
@@icecold5707why
China has its own server for tik tok called douyin, china only.
@@icecold5707 99% American propaganda
My grandfather installed the very first semiconductor ovens in Taiwan. I genuinely wonder if he had any idea of the effect on geopolitics would be.
This is by far the most comprehensive explanation of the conflict between the PRC and ROC.
It’s very hard to imagine Japan, SEA, India will just sit idly by while China conducts its invasion of Taiwan. They have territorial disputes with China too.
Japan: "Round 2 Modaf*ckas!"
The CCP was anti-American and anti-Soviet in the 1960s. PLA bombarded Taiwan’s Kinmen for 21 years from 1958 to 1979. CCP attacked India in 1962, armed Vietcong against US 1964 to 1975, funded communist revolutions in all Asia, Africa and Latin America, intervened in the Macau riots in 1966, intervened in the Hong Kong riots in 1967, and attacked the Soviet Union in 1969.
It is difficult to imagine that China will only attack Taiwan, instead of makeing trouble in Ukraine, Israel, Cuba, Korea, Japan at the same time as it did in the 1960s?
Yeah, because if they do successfully conquer Taiwan, they would exert authority over Taiwan's administrative claims in the South China Sea, which is a no-no.
Japan is heavily militarizing itself and screaming for an excuse to go back to its old warrior ways to lift itself out of economic doldrums.
Japan would not be happy since Japan is occupied by the USA since WW2. Japan is not independent.
The history recap ends at 14:47 if anyone wants to skip that.
appreciate it
Thank yoh
thank you so much so tired of it 😭
History recap ends at 14:47 and fantasy scenarios begins
@@rcbrascan Seemed like reasonable scenarios to me.
I have to say, this video is pretty thorough and accurate for the most part.
It is worth noting that before the 2020 Taiwan election, the KMT's presidential candidate had higher popularity then the current Taiwan DPP president, and the KMT candidate has pretty close ties with China and is also very pro-China, it is expected that if he was elected, a "peaceful" reunification between Taiwan and China would be further pushed. However, it is the 2019 black swan chain of political "events" in Hong Kong that has turned fhe whole Taiwan's political tide against China. The 2019 series of "civil unrest" or "riot", depending on your political perspective, has showed Taiwanese how will the Chinese government treat them if they proceed with the reunification with China, causing the public opinion to drastically change and resulting in that a peaceful "reunification" between Taiwan and China become extremely unlikely in the future.
Great point. I'm surprised this wasn't mentioned in the statistics as to why a majority of Taiwanese now don't want to be part of mainland China.
Exact same thing happened in philippines. They practically had a popular pro-China government and sentiment, and almost anti-US. Then China started invading some of their little islands and claiming that the whole of that sea belonged to them, and even shot at them. Philippines government is now anti-China and have half a dozen new US bases and ready to team up with Taiwan.
There is no RE-unification , Taiwan has never been part of China
@@mikefixac every human has a programmable brain.
I mean,the CCP has made terrible choices in the handing of covid and even their own people are done with it at their government's bs
The Question tho,is if that's enough to wake up the masses and abandon communism entirely or if they will just pick another dictator
Seriously,being punished for talking bad about the goverment is probably the sickest thing and I don't see why they put up with it
One pretty safe renewable energy source that Taiwan might be able to tap into is *geothermal energy.* They are a volcanic island with a lot of geothermal activity, so at least at an initial glance this could be their best bet.
I hope they can become self sufficient in energy in the future! For such a modernized and progressive country, it's a real shame to see that they still have such a reliance on coal.
1. Taiwan isn't not a country according to UN, US, Australia, India, Brazil, South Africa, Saudi Arabia, France, Vietnam, etc...how delusional and ignorant are the English audience of UA-cam that I constantly see this blatant mistake being made in the comment section, yet almost nobody corrects them. It really shows the echo chamber effect 😂
2. Also, I think nuclear energy is better.
@@darthvadeth6290 Regardless of who acknowledges it as such, Taiwan is de facto a country even if not de jure. It cannot be denied that the ROC is autonomous of the PRC, even if each views the other as illegitimate.
@@darthvadeth6290 1.) you are an arrogant asshole.
2.) you would be right technically and it’s blatantly obvious so most people look past it because…
3.) diplomatically speaking no country recognizes Taiwan due to chinas history of genociding millions at no expense. So its easier to keep the game going because communists are greedy and if on paper its theirs they are happy.
4.) in reality on the ground, on the island they are a free and fair, independent state, that has no need for china.
@@darthvadeth6290people like you need to read about the Asch's conformity experiment
@@darthvadeth6290
1: I'm pretty sure most people are aware that Taiwan is unrecognized, but let's be honest, it's just easier to call it a country, and it is a de-facto country anyways.
2: I think geothermal is interesting to look into; Iceland made it work. Sure, Iceland is a much smaller country, but I think it is an option that should be considered.
As a Taiwanese... constitutionally, we are claiming China as part of ROC...
But big, BUT as a Taiwanese, we don't care about unification, as korean north south...
We just want our way of life to go on as normal, as we did before the ROC came to Taiwan, before the Japanese, Qing Dynasty，Ming Dynasty，Dutch, Spanish，or before Portuguese name us Formosa!
We just want our way of life to go on.
Then why not leave Taiwan because the land belongs to qing dynasty and its successor
Your Chinese ethnically, why just not say that? Is that hard? I mean there are Two China’s, one totalitarian and one democratic. You are omitting 3000 years just because the commies won in mainland China…..
For the PRC it makes no sense to try and take Taiwan, apart from ego. Long live Taiwan, it's people and their hard fought freedom and democracy.
No, it doesn't.@@Hayatiu
@@HayatiuROC is the rightful successor to the Qing.
Who the hell are you?
8:13 “guess what kind of bug I caught”
“No, you guess first “
It's almost like people don't want to live under Authoritarian rule... In fact they would like a little freedom in their economic decisions.
definitely. if China were democratic by now, probably Taiwan wouldn't be so hesitant to join. They saw what happened to Hong Kong.
Nope, freedom in general not only "economic" freedom. It's called personal liberty. Mainland China has a surprising amount of economic freedom, companies, jobs, services, etc. What they have none of is personal freedom.
People want to live under whatever they're told they want to live under, Taiwan was authoritarian up until 1989.
Yeah, that seems to be a general theme throughout human history.
30% of Americans actively want this
An anchorman of a Taiwan TV politic talk show said that before Chiangkaishek retreated to Taiwan, he was looking at both Taiwan and Hainan, and he had difficulty deciding which island to choose for his retreat. So, he visited a feng-shui master, who told him to choose Taiwan instead of Hainan, as Taiwan, facing the Mainland of China with its back, will never be taken by forces from the Mainland.
Nice! Chose wisely!
PHL will be invaded first and used as a platform to Island hop into Southern Taiwan and Taiwan will be unable to do much about it. It’s too easy to invade and control the Philippines.
fake news of BBC .Indeed Taiwan stomach is towards China mainland.Its mountains all towards USA side.And KMT always want to take mainland back again,but CPC keep strong,KMT then give up go back to mainland.
@@TheVineOfChristLives You fail to realize that China prefers good relations with everyone (for trade reasons) over conflict.
Stop believing the drama of some American media & politicians, China has no intention of taking Taiwan, they were just flexing because Trump grossly offended them & they have an agreement with America about Taiwan that they were hinting at ending (while likely never actually having intended to end it, but just flexing because they can) To be blunt you should learn more about your country's history before you start putting labels on or making assumptions about other countries.
Long story short China knows that attacking Taiwan or anyone else would just hurt their bottom line, and they prefer money over wars. EU calmed them down again pretty quickly when your orange moron pissed them off, there's nothing going on at the moment besides in the heads of some oddball 'patriots' in America.
@@TheVineOfChristLivesif the Phillipines get invaded why wouldn't a blockade of China not be the response?
They would run out of oil to run the ships before they even looked at taiwan
Came to see war tactics and politcs, left with massive knowledge regarding importance of TSMC and semiconductors.
I just love this channel that covers everything and not just 1 sector.
It's interesting that both those things aren't mutually exclusive - like he mentions, Taiwan's economic defense by being a critical producer of semiconductors provides the "silicon shield".
@23:16 who else noticed that the robot left that lady hanging. 😂
Being a Taiwanese I truly love you so much. Let more people know our circumstances. and issues
@@clarkl7027you mean West Taiwan?
@@clarkl7027 yeah, its a joke
@@clarkl7027is that why we have our own president and most people aren’t brainwashed?
1) In 1894, Japan invaded China and Korea, the Qing govt was defeated and signed the [Treaty of Shimonoseki] to cede Taiwan Island to Japan.
2) During the WW2, at the Cairo Conference held in 1943, China asked the transfer of Taiwan's sovereignty back to China after the war. This content was included in the [Cairo Declaration] and later reiterated in the [Potsdam Proclamation] that it should be implemented.
3) In 14 Aug & 2 Sept 1945, the Emperor and govt of Japan issued the [End War Edict] and [Japanese Instrument of Surrender], Japan surrendered and accepted the [Potsdam Proclamation]. The Japanese troops in Taiwan surrendered to KMT General CKS. Taiwan re-entered the territory of the Republic of China (ROC).
4) Soon after that China civil war broke out in between KMT and CCP, the KMT was defeated and fled to Taiwan. However, due to US intervention, the CCP without strong navy at that time has no ability to unify Taiwan. The CCP then established the People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. The civil war continues.....
5) In 1971, UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN. That means the PRC is China’s only legal govt under international law. Today the PRC also become China’s only legal govt recognized by 181 countries around the world, including the USA.
"The USA recognizes the Government of the PRC as the sole legal Government of China."
"The USA acknowledges the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China."
Joint Cummunique on the Establishment of Diplomatic relations between the PRC and the USA in 1979.
Please refer to President Jimmy Carter's Speech on Relations with China.
6) Therefore, according to international law, international reality, and the wishes of the 1.4 billion Chinese people, Taiwan should return to PRC and the PRC have every rights to protect it's sovereign integrity.
@@kostakatsoulis2922 yes it’s truth. They’re part of Taiwan also they’re the biggest island in Taiwan 😂
As someone who is currently applying to jobs in chemical engineering, I was pleasantly surprised to know that one of the places I'm applying to is TSMC. Had no idea how huge and influential they are until watching this video
just in case you don't know about ASML either, they are similar to TSMC as being an unknown superpower as they are the company that makes the machines that make chips and wafers
Samsung Foundry 🇰🇷, Texas instruments 🇺🇲, TSMC 🇹🇼, ASML 🇳🇱, and probably one or two Japanese companies somewhere in there as well are very important for the world's tech
Please watch Asianometry to enlighten your knowledge.
You...are surprised about that? I don't understand. How could you not know?
@@lawrencefrost9063 ignorant college student (if you were referring to me not knowing about TSMC), but i may have worded my comment a bit weirdly. What I was trying to say is I was pleasantly surprised to know that one of the places I'm applying to for jobs (TSMC) is actually a pretty cool company.
I mean, the global chip shortage also played a huge role in the US wanting to expand local manufacturing. And TSMC keeping their us manufacturing a generation behind isn’t that big a deal, since the actual volume demand on process nodes tends to be on last generation ones anyway. The cutting edge stuff is just what tends to end up in the news.
Correct. And the knowledge wouldn’t suddenly disappear; those US fabs could be upgraded in a heartbeat to produce cutting edge chips.
Good perspective, thanks
Hey you 💋💋
Yep the capability to produce cutting edge chips also has to do with ASML’s EUV lithography machines which allow fabs to manufacture chips at 3 nanometer scale. Intel is also slated to receive these machines in Arizona right next door to TSMC.
IBM can do those 10 2nm chips if needed. it is just making those in huge volumes that TSMC does better than anyone else.
Great video! Very detailed and comprehensive! Thanks
I got so addicted with this channel, saw a notification and went to watch immediately
Taiwan's nuclear plants have been storing spent fuel (highly radioactive) in "temporary" storage pools within the nuclear plants themselves. As the storage pools are now completely filled up and the government still can't decide on a permanent solution, the plants are practically forced to retire.
With that said, they're 70s technology and probably not a good idea to keep operating anyways.
Taiwan should load these materials into some ICBMs to have a weapon that can make MAD a reality. If Beijing wants to militarily annex Taiwan they'll have to be willing to lose Beijing itself, Shanghai, and another 30 million population worth of citie
@@BlahVideosBlahBlah That's not really at all how nuclear weapons work. For starters, Taiwan would need ICBMs, which is no small thing to produce and maintain. Second, you don't just stick spent nuclear material onto a rocket to make nuclear weapons, they need (among other things) precise materials that are purpose made using a specific type of reactor - which the Taiwanese plants may not even be. And while there are types of reactors that can recycle spent fuel rods toward making enriched material, I'm pretty sure Taiwan doesn't operate *those* types of reactors, as they're widely banned due to nuclear non-proliferation treaties. Even if they did, getting that reaction going is something that takes time and expertise, and would almost assuredly be noticed right away.
It'd be a more likely reality for Taiwan to just borrow an American nuclear weapon for deterrence than to make their own, quite frankly.
And that's assuming the people living there would be willing to entertain the idea. Not sure what the opinion of the Taiwanese is on nuclear weapons.
@@kullzaf6266Yeah that wasn't the United States that was one single person that was power hungry... think before you comment
@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle You forget how bloodthirsty and jingoistic America was at the time.
They practically let Bush invade Iraq. Also remember 'warrantless wiretapping'? I'd never imagine they'd let that pass- but it did.
Democracy doesn't work if citizens don't participate, and only blaming the President- who people voted for- is just passing the buck.
I admit there were Anti-War rallies, and the people who participated in those have my gratitude.
Yeah spent nuclear materials won't be nuclear bombs. But exploding it will scatter radioactive materials anyway rendering target irradiated and unsuitable to live in.
You do a great job to present and inform. Thannks for the work.
This is an Informative, well done, and well thought 💭🤔 out video with correct maps and charts to make it interesting. This person did his research and gives me more in-depth understanding on the importance of Taiwan on a global scale, the battle for Taiwan and howTaiwan can defend itself.
Here's a bit of perspective for Taiwan, regarding US bringing back chip manufacturing. This isn't the US abandoning Taiwan, it's the US being prepared with sufficient manufacturing capability necessary to continue any war effort basically indefinitely in event China attacks. Strategically, if China was committed to an attack and presence of TSMC plants were the only tie causing Taiwan's allies to be committed to defense, China could just make the plants priority targets to destroy themselves with airstrikes and missile bombardment. It'd anger Taiwan's allies, but once the plants are destroyed then the allies wouldn't have any incentive to assist if that's the only reason they were doing it.
Meanwhile, the entire world will be more than happy to increase consumption of high tech products and continue to trade with Taiwan to buy as much as they can get even if the US boosts manufacturing levels.
台积电最新的制造技术相对于7nm并没有表现出多少进步空间，现在的台积电对于世界来说并不是那么不可或缺，台湾人妄想靠台积电来阻止战争还不如多保留几个宣称自己是中国人的岛民来的实在，中共的大义就是立足于中国人不打中国人，岛上如果已经没有中国人了，那到时候动起手来就可以毫无顾忌了！
@@maliudian 你活在另一個世界吧......中國人明明就是打中國人最兇的那個。
我們又不是看不到中國國內的新聞。
The CCP was anti-American and anti-Soviet in the 1960s. PLA bombarded Taiwan’s Kinmen for 21 years from 1958 to 1979. CCP attacked India in 1962, 1967, CCP armed Vietcong against US 1964 to 1975, funded all communist revolutions in Asia, Africa and Latin America, intervened in the Macau riots against Portugese in 1966, intervened in the Hong Kong riots against UK in 1967, and even attacked the Soviet Union in 1969.
It is difficult to imagine that China will only attack Taiwan, instead of making trouble in Ukraine, Israel, Cuba, Korea, Japan for US at the same time as it did in the 1960s?
Of course China will retaliate.
@@qaq651 你说的倒是没错，中国各地的人，各个民族，互相杀戮几千了，一直没停，当年民国时，国民党掌权的时候，也对共产党搞过大屠杀，倒逼共产党武力斗争，台湾的国民党也不是什么好人
This guy knows more about earth than 95% of us government officials
Hes just another propaganda mouthpiece and hes not even aware of it.
@@timothyandrewnielsensure thing pal
Correction: You count individual boats for largest navy. USA is still largest by tonnage. So even if we count the boats that are not really navy USA still has more boat in the water.
China’s ship building capacity is of what 20 times of U.S. it’s only a matter of time for China to catch up in both quantity and tonnage
@jntiger1981 one of the 2 two new aircraft carriers they just built got a huge crack in the runway after a month in the ocean.
Even if...and its a big if...they put investment into putting that tonnage into the water quality of the ships would still leave the US with a far larger fighting navy.
Remember boat that you can throw soldiers on does not = a warship.
@@pfc_churchThere wasn't a crack, you are just making that up.
Whenever people bring up tonnage, people counter it with the fact that China fucks the US in shipbuilding capacity.
Then you try to play the "made in China" card and it doesn't work.
Repeat.
@@jntiger1981putting metal in the ocean does not equate anywhere close to a cutting edge warfare navy. It’s like saying that china being able to build 20 times the number of airplanes as the US means that they have the best Air Force. Building 20 passenger jets doesn’t give you the ability to shoot down one f-35. Building 20 patrol boats doesn’t give you the ability to kill an Arleigh Burke
@@ExHyperion You can look up the latest 12,000 tonne type 055 destroyer China built. The first batch of 8 ships was completed in a matter of 4 years, it has 112 VLS launchers with dual band phases array radar which no current U.S. destroy can compete. The 2nd batch of 8 ships are being built as we speak
Thx a lot for informing us about "upcoming" conflicts! At the same time being so nervous in your voice, talking so fast throughout an entire hour even "panicing" and agitating, you are more part of the problem then part of the solution
I have to say. That was an absolute GOD TIER ad-read transition. Bravo
Militarily, Taiwan’s geography and defence capabilities make it a very tough target. A land invasion would require a huge effort that China would be foolish to attempt, if they were successful in winning a naval and air war first. China’s invasion would be as disaster out as Russia’s. I think Russian failures, and isolation on the world stage, have been a sobering realization for China.
Well unfortunately I believe that they will use thousands of cruise missiles to hit defense targets.
somebody, please, make a plugin for my browser, which can open those invisible messages in the UA-cam comment section. I can see that there is 1 comment, but when I click on More, the comment does not show up. UA-cam is ghost banning people for writing comments. That's why some server and script should walk through the comment section, and backup those comments.
start from the beginning and learn
I think China will simply be more prepared. They’re playing to win the numbers game since their population is 3x larger.
Because the US military is dispersed, a first strike can put local allied forces on their back heel.
If Chinese area denial tech works, it would make reinforcing Taiwan from Hawaii, Guam, or California very difficult. Then, they just have to bomb taiwan into submission.
they don't need to invade it by land though. All they need to do is blockade it. Taiwan imports everything.
You know what would make a interesting video the top best countries to be born in when it comes to avoiding global conflicts.
New Zealand.
papua new guinea
Brazil is pretty chill
when it comes to a war top powerful countries are actually not the best place to live.
@@riderchallenge4250I disagree, if you are a smaller nation, you are still subject to waves of global events.
For example, when France blockaded the tax haven Monaco, what could Monaco do? Same goes for Panama, Venezuela, and Cuba.
Globalization has more or less connectioned all of us together so you are either on a drivers seat or in for the ride.
Kenya was just chilling...
I really hope they don’t attack because no one wins besides the leaders. People on both sides of this conflict will fell the pain.
Nah, only people in Taiwan will, China's military industrial complex will make a lot of money though.
Threat of a conflict will remain for as long as China covets Taiwan.
This is the most comprehensive video on the subject that I have found on the Internet so far. Thanks!
May Taiwan and its wonderful people never have to endure any invasion!
It's certainly a very comprehensively wrong video.
this was so so soo good, you where explainign everything with a fast pace but even for me that i am not english everything was easily understandable.
history is just soo fascinating
Very educational video! I lived in Taiwan for two years as a missionary. It was under martial law back then, so I was well aware of the risks. This video helps me understand the situation, if I ever went back. Thanks.
The White Terror has been over for decades now.
Thanks very much for this illuminating video. One additional detail, if I may: from my understanding manufacturing chips is only possible because of a very special machine built in the Netherlands which in return depends on very very special mirrors produced in Germany. Without these machines manufacturing advanced chips would not be possible. I feel there are so many dependencies that the consequences of an attack cannot be calculated. It will come down to what Chinese leadership will command - for whatever reason. May God help us all.
@hendrike3092 @RealLifeLofe yes the video part about the early development of semiconductor technology and production of equipment has a lot of mistakes. Like you said the only real manfucaturer of machines is Netherlands and the only real manufacture or mirrors is German Zeiss but the chain is much longer.
I would expect both China and Taiwan and their manufacturing capability to have built crazy amount of drones and missiles.
Taiwan buys most of its arms and war equipment from the US... well. To be accurate, the US tells Taiwan what its going to sell them and the Taiwanese open their pockets...
The problem is China doesn't and can't create anything, so everything they build is years old at best.
In time of war, China will get full support from DJI. 100k dones and UAVs each day will overrun any defense.
@@jntiger1981 I'm not sure what DJI means and I'd love to see China try to run 100K drones and UAVs lol. They are going to use missiles because missiles are easy to use. Aim and fire. Not remote operate million dollar drones that they are barely able to man. How many drone operators in China even have experience on real drone operations? Can't be a lot, unless China is going on invasion sprees in africa and antarctica and everybody refuses to talk about it.
@@jntiger1981 just jam the gps and remote frequencies...
What he said about Ukraine was only half correct at the beginning of the invasion because while Ukraine did stop Russia, using drones, MANPADS, and a much more mobile army, they also used plenty of artillery, which destroyed most of the vehicles. Since then, Ukraine has used plenty of vehicles and artillery mainly because of Western supplies. In the south, Ukraine stopped concentrating many vehicles in one massive push because drones, satellites, and people with phones make it almost impossible to hide such large formations. Also, this tactic relies heavily on air supremacy and surprise, which Ukraine still needs to get. Evidence of this is the recent Russian push near Avdiivka, which has been demolished, and the Winter push near Vuhledar, which was also repelled. Due to this, Ukraine attacks using company-sized units supported by some vehicles and artillery, so the counter-offensive goes slowly.
Ukraine also isn't using massed armour due to the minefield and defensive lines. If they are at some point able to breakthrough it (and can prevent Russia from re-establishing it/place a new one in time, they'll likely send in a massed armour assault to attack the flanks/backs of the line and push on through to take as much ground as possible.
Fabulous information and insight.
Fantastic video! I work for Intel in Arizona, so I've been paying close attention to the TSMC FAB being built on the other side of town and it is also highly controversial in the state. Lately because of them wanting to bring in Taiwanese construction workers and thus pissing off the local unions but also for the fact you mentioned that it will only be building last gen chips, something the new FABs Intel is building here are trying to get away from. They're part of our new foundry service and will be servicing our new next gen chips with heavy funding from the CHIPS act. Overall the state government likes it because of the increased jobs and economy boost, Intel will publicly say it welcomes the competition, though obviously they don't. It means less people for them to hire and harder to retain, I personally know several engineers that left for TSMC. TSMC's founder has also said the "globalization" of the chip manufacturing is over, so seems very real that he knows the "silicone shield" may or is coming to an end, probably in the next decade or so. Especially as Intel continues it's 5 nodes in 4 years, which we are(for now) on track to complete, it's heavy investments in Arizona, Oregon, Ohio, Poland, Ireland, and considering an investment increase in Vietnam. They are poised to drag American companies away from TSMC like they somewhat have with new agreements with Google and Microsoft.
The shield is exactly why TSMC won’t manufacture the newest chips in the US.
Interesting is also how their is now an EUV Intel plant in Ireland, not the US.
The best YT channel for chip manufacturing is Asiamonetry. He obviously works in the business in both US and Taiwan. According to his videos, the easy part is throwing billions of dollars to construct the factory. Finding the right talent to run the show is magnitudes harder.
@@LtdJorge But it's also a contingency, it gives them a location where they can re-establish their best fabs in the event that Taiwan does fall. it's an open secret that TSMC will destroy any fabs and tech that they can't ship out if it looks like Taiwan will fall.
Micron is building a chip plant here in Boise too.
Random fun fact: If you dig a hole in Taiwan all the way down to the other side of the earth, you’ll end up in Paraguay.
I would have never known the background of these political tensions without this channel. Thank you
How embarrassing
Wow is this video really well made or what. Great job folks, extremely informative.
Best video on Taiwan I’ve seen. Amazing research and great overview of all the factors at play
Considering that the ROC was in power in China before the rise of the PRC Taiwan is correct in their assertion that the mainland is who is in a state of rebellion, not the island of Taiwan.
Historically having a government in exile is not a unique situation, and they do sometimes return to power.
If I had to guess, the point of the export restrictions the US imposed on US based plans is a short term gain, long term loss plan, similar to how you discussed China's economy would be affected. However, I think it might be aimed at keeping the PRC from invading the island long enough such that they reach the point of decline, and reach the point of being unable to invade
If they think China is going to to decline they’re delusional
funny, we expect the US to reach the point of decline and reach the point of being unable to intervene, lets wait and see🤣🤣🤣
@@tianxiabai1185 America did not mandate the murder of millions of babies. China did. Now the Chinese working population is about to massively decline. America might be politically unstable right now, but at least our decline might be averted by a couple strong leaders. Chinese decline is all but guarantied by their demographic statistics.
@@tianxiabai1185don't worry, when US has declined and unable to intervene it'd be enough for japan philippines and south korea to
@@infinitsai
It nonsense!
Jap, Philippines........
Think deeper.
Taiwan actually belongs to the Indigenous peoples of the island! The indigenous people of Taiwan have been there for 10000 years!!!! They are the true owners of Taiwan!
I really really hope this video ages well.
Spoiler allert "it wont"
@@msab4883Tell us how China is going to invade Taiwan, I don't mind spoilers.
"I really really hope this video ages well."
So do I. The entire sane and civilised world does. Fingers crossed.
It won’t lol
@@Rishi123456789 sane is when they support the largest open air prison in the world
Last week a documentary was released called Invisible Nation, about Tsai Ing-Wen and the struggles Taiwan has gone through to maintain their pseudo-independence from China.
Their independence is not pseudo. It is real. The one China policy is the pseudo aspect of the situation.
if the KMT was the one winning the election, i doubt we have the situation at hand today... i don't see PRC pushing or even rushing the issue of reunification if they never had to worry about ROC declaring independence... tit for tat kind of situation, what DPP does is pushing their agenda too far (probably too early as well) and its now too late to back out of.
"Russian components, American components, they are all made in TAIWAN!" The cosmonaut in the movie Armageddon. That scene was so true (at least at the time) it got stuck in my head forever.
And also buzz lightyear is made in Taiwan as we saw in toy story lol.
Lol I was looking for this comment 😂✌🏻
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These videos are amazing! How do you make them?
got fund from you know who, it's a team work, not a single man job
The problem for the PRC isn't their own dependency on Taiwanese microchips but NATO's dependency on Taiwanese microchips.
While Taiwan isn't part of NATO and, in fact, isn't even recognized as an independent country by most of NATO it could still be effectively considered as a NATO member state purely because heavv NATO interference in a Chinese-Taiwanese war would be all but guaranteed.
The current Ukraine conflict has more than proven NATO's willingness to interfere in a conflict which only really affects it geo-politically. A war over Taiwan would also affect NATO economically so direct interference, as opposed to just material and financial support, would be very likely.
Effectively summed up by Vivek Ramaswamy when he said to protect Taiwan until we (the US) no longer needs them.
@@recoil53 🤫
China is not Iraq. A nato or US war with China will mean nuclear winter.
can't tell if you're being sarcastic
@@recoil53
Yes,we Taiwanese always keep the truth in mind“if your value is decreasing,no one would like to give you a hand.”which always be laughed at by Chinese due to our overreliance on America in military.
Great coverage of the history! It's really hard to cover such a complicated relationship, and you managed to do it accurately and succinctly!
I doubt there's ever been a more well defended island in Earth's history.
The Falklands, probably. 🇦🇷
The Falklands, probably. 🇬🇧🇦🇷
The British isles in World War 2
Incredible video. Thankyou🎉
I love this guy, he always speaks the truth for both sides and isnt like the average American newsreporter
You're a fool he literally spent 14 minutes marginalizing Taiwan independence and gushing out PRC propaganda talking points.
A note about the size of the Chinese navy. Look at the tonnage not the number of ships, they're mostly a coastal defense fleet not a blue water navy like the USA
dont need a blue water navy to invade taiwan.
What is hilarious is if you factor your coast guard ships into the navy we drastically outnumber China.
In the context of Taiwan, a coastal defence fleet is all that’s needed
Yes exactly, because China, unlike imperialist expansionist USA, is mostly concerned with defending their own coast ("coastal defense fleet") 👍
@@darthvadeth6290 China is an imperialistic nation.
A small correction, we do have oil in Taiwan I think, and it’s still in production. It’s very little and I don’t think most of Taiwanese people know about it, but it’s there
I love your videos. You are the only youtuber I have considered giving donations to. Keep them videos coming.😊
Amazing country. It barreled towards democracy and came up with a genius plan to defend itself and become wealthy.
Germany also plays a part, the dutch can´t make their lithographer without Carl Zeiss, only company in the world making lenses precise enough for high end lithographing and also being in a joint venture with the dutch.
This is a prime demonstration of why no individual or group of human beings deserves such destructive power.
You can't prevent others from amassing destructive power. The best you can do is make enough friends with enough destructive power to fight back, or at least encourage them to negotiate. But the destructive power will be created, one way or another.
Is that your way of saying that you didn't watch the video and so have no idea what it's about?
So what good is building chips that are generation behind
@@Skyler827 Yes but note how I specified human beings
@@thorr18BEM No, in fact it's most relevant to the last part of the video
Not true, the biggest flood has already happened, and thanks to the grace of god, he will never do that again. Thank you, Lord. 🙏
The invasion of Okinawa was a larger amphibious landing than Normandy and the largest ever (so far)
It depends on what you consider the invasion of Normandy. Most people consider it to be the funneling of allied troops into France during the month of June, 1944. Not just June 6
who ever controls the best chips, control the world.
There’s a lot of things that happened between 1940 in 1949 that really shape the world We are living in today.
Why doesnt the PRC get Taiwan and the ROC gets the Mainland? Wouldnt that make everyone happy?
Brilliant video! Wish they taught subjects in this manner in China! I would be listening jaw-dropping the entire 45mins! :)
It should also be noted that whilst the PRC does indeed have a huge army, much of it is needed simply to maintain the border. Furthermore, Taiwan probably does have nuke capability right now if only a couple of warhead equivalents.
You didn't mention that the US could easily blocade mainland China if they tried to blocade Taiwan. Combined with Taiwan's military deterance and the US and Japanese forces, the incentive for invasion is drastically reduced because the costs go up exponentially.
Not only that but the silicone used in the highest end chips requires an absurd purity and over 90% of all this silicone comes from one place in South Carolina. China has to go through the US no matter what. One of the reasons it's in South Carolina is because the silica is naturally very pure and much of the best glass in the world comes from the same area. Certainly other countries can get silicone to a certain level of purity but past a certain point requires a lot of American tech.
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Silicone isn’t used in chips ?
@@wasntme3651 it is. Light sensitive silicone. It's how the layers and gaps are made for the gold wiring. The silicone needs basically zero impurities for this to work. Hydorflouric acid is used to remove the silicone as well.
@@ajmaynard92
Silicon 🤷🏼♂️not silicone
@@wasntme3651 no I mean silicone. Yes very pure silicon is also used but silicone is used as the material that dissolves under hydroflouric acid. Since chips are several layers of silicon and the gold wiring needs to fill in 3D space, silicone is the disposable place holder for the wires. If there are impurities they get on the chip and prevent the wires from being placed properly creating resistance in different parts of the chip which will cause the chips to light on fire. The smaller the chip the less tolerance for impurities in the silicone and the silicon
Some introductory graphics might help the clarity of the beginning words. I had to rewind 3 times to hear the date you were trying to say.
Not that it's an issue, I just think it would be nice to have.
As always, outstanding measured content.
Taiwan is impressively innovative
I think the only way Taiwan can be sure it won't be attacked is to get nuclear weapons. I don't like the idea of nuclear proliferation but we have witnessed that it works. It is a shame that it is this way but at least Taiwan would only be in the place to protect their territorial integrity.
As briefly touched upon in the video, Taiwan cannot pursue nuclear weapons as that would certainly antagonise China enough to invade.
It is the thinking like this that starts world wars. You should view events in the eyes of people who could be affected, not a distant observer (no one is safe).
@@matthewreynolds4382 yes, but much like Israel, they could do it in secret. Also even if they did find out, like with North Korea, Iran, India and Pakistan it is one thing to be angry and introduce sanctions but it is another thing to actually invade.
A. As it stands China seems to be planning to invade at some point. B. Even if Taiwan got the nuke and China found out before it was ready they would still be just as difficult to invade as they are now. C. Once the nuke is ready then they are untouchable.
I mean the video basically spells out all the different approaches taken to try and protect themselves from invasion, and how they are all vulnerable. Nukes seem to work. I mean even when it comes to Iran the US hasn't invaded despite a few air raids targeting specific infrastructure.
@@ProffyChaos Yep, this is true. I'd say it's likely that China has a very strong network of spies within Taiwan that would almost certainly uncover a nuclear weapons program. But absolutely, nuclear weapons would keep China off the island.
@@matthewreynolds4382 How? It will antagonize China, but not enough to invade. The U.S. didn't invade North Korea when they had nuclear weapons, even though they easily could have.
Just imagine how truly DISSAPOINTED the Chinese CCP was when russia FAILED to achieve victory in Ukraine.
China is happy to see US doesn’t have the ball to intervene
I dont think China are disappointed with all the cheap fuel they are getting. Or the increased access to resources in the sparsely populated Eastern Russia.