This is hands down my current favorite AliExpress Watch. I think you’re the first one to review this. That B-Roll was phenomenal, both in camera work as well as Seestern doing a great job with the details. I like it so much, I’m not even upset about the 19mm lugs or the two holes of micro adjust. Thanks for the great review!
Much appreciated man. Some watches make the Broll look easy and this is one of them. It wears so good and is proportioned so well that, like you, I'm not too bothered by the 19mm lugs...thankfully about $20 in straps has me covered for any outfit.
@@EscapeWheel bought mine in red yesterday. Couldn't find any video reviews of it at the time but saw this today and I'm even more excited now. Great work on the b-roll and video!
The Grand Seiko sbgm 221 is my grail watch, but can't afford it at this time, and when I saw this watch I jumped on it right away . It is almost identical specs wise, other then the polish, and the movement , and water resistance its perfect!!! Mine should arrive a y day now looks amazing!!! Yours is the first review of this beauty! Well done!!!😊
For a watch paying homage to a GS with high beat movement, I’d much prefer a Miyota 9075 since it’s a 4 Hz movement. But this is a nice looking watch nonetheless. 😊
A second awesome offering from Seestern. I hope they keep the name: Sugess doesn't mean anything, Seestern is German for starfish as you know, so like Sternglas it has a much more authentic ring to it than something silly like Sugess. And Seestern is an important business district in the city of Düsseldorf, Germany, some twenty miles from where I live
I agree... Sugess name and font are just nasty like so many aliexpress 'brands". Seestern actually means something (somehow related to diving) and I find the branding unique. The sea star is cool and the the Great Wave off Kanagawa case back that also includes the sea star is simply stunning! I would love if they would use it on all their watches!
I can't afford a Grand Seiko, so this will be my next 'attainable grail' watch. The brown and blue straps make the watch stand out even more. Good review 👍🏼
Beautiful watch without the huge price tag. This brand has slowly built a reputation for good quality [not superb by any means] at a reasonable price. The blue leather strap really pairs well with this timepiece.
I’ve been looking for a review of this watch for the last 10 days and could only find one and it disappeared. I’m really excited about ordering this watch. I just wanted to see somebody’s professional opinion. Thank you for posting this.
I'm not really sure. When side by side with other cream dials I guess it may have a very slight green tint to it...also the lighting/camera may play into that as well...hard to say. Can't say I've seen the green tint IRL when the watch is on its own.
I can't get over the finishing on the dial and hands, a huge step up for them. Hopefully the QA/QC is good to go and we don't get any junkers out there. Awesome review as always!
What a great looking watch!... Love those dauphine hands. Need it to come down in price a bit more for me. I'm surprised they went with the Seestern name on this (as this is more utility watches).. rather than Sugess, which I thought was their formal style watch brand.
I'm not usually into something like this, what I would consider a more dressy watch; but this is a real stunner. I mean, WOW, the polishing, the bracelet, the cream dial (that's supposed to be the boring one lol), the clasp, everything just looks executed perfectly. Lastly I wanted to say this watch isn't kind of a strap monster, it's absolutely a strap BEAST. Every one you showcased looked amazing. I am really blown away with what you get in this watch for only around $200. Excellent review!
I scratched the crystal minorly on my GS SBGM221 and the crystal would be $500, so a whole watch for less than the cost of the crystal for the real thing haha
Looks great on that strap, great design work from Seiko and well done homage from Seestern, I have the Seestern Doxa homage which was also quite well executed. I also own watches designed and manufactured in house, but I can appreciate a well done homage, especially if it comes in non factory colors etc. Thanks for the review.
Hell yeah, I was waiting for this to get fully reviewed. John did a mini mention but no review per say. I love my seestern doxa homage so I'm now a seestern fan.
They may not be quite as sharp or refined as San Martin but they BRING IT..quality to price is hard to beat. They are pretty close to my top 3 Ali brands.
@EscapeWheel I agree so far. My san martin 6200 Vintage Diver homage is extremely well built and a little more refined in areas from the seestern 600t homage. The crown and bezel action is where I noticed the biggest difference. That and the regulation. However, my seestern did freeze outside for 5 hours in negative degree weather, so I think the movement is a bit fried. Possibly, that has resulted in some issues that I've noticed with the crown action.
I don't know if I'd go that far...but I sure wouldn't really appreciate the extra that goes into them...$4K for a nicer movement and better polishing and brand history? Eh 🤷
One thing I really like about some of the grand Seiko 's are some of the surface dials are really phenomenal...I kind of wish they would put a little more attention into the dial surfaces themselves. It's not just about offering lots of colors it's about really making them look complex and/or rich... Like even the enamel dials are really luxurious looking. And I just don't ever want to see another display case back on a Seiko NH30 series again!
Hunted one down after watching this video and I finally have it. Wow. This has to be an all-time favorite. Even with the small clasp, it wears so comfortably and it's such a beautiful watch to stare at. Makes me wonder if a GS is actually necessary.
the same can be said about all these homage brands. I honestly cannot see myself spending over $1K on ANY watch, let along multiple thousands. and these homage brands are killing it with giving us 90% of the experience for a small fraction of the real deal's price. it's hard to beat.
Awesome review as usual. This dial color belongs on a brown alligator strap IMO. Can you measure the case thickness? I think you’re right that it’s around 10mm.
I think it's a beautiful copy of the Grand Seiko. But, it's a copy and I'd feel kinda weird wearing it. Especially if anyone who knows watches commented on my "Grand Seiko".
I bought the Seestern S435 (S.S., blue dial, Seagull ST2130 high beat movt) from the Surgess official store on Aliexpress about 3 months ago...and remain stunned by the quality coming out of Seestern. Terrific watch. Wearing it most days. However, I am also wearing the S446 GMT, from time to time. Bought this GMT model (with the black dial, red GMT hand) about 2 months ago, same store. Again, Seestern hit it out of the park. Quality, fit, finish...fantastic.
Great review as always, Steve, thanks! And I totally agree that this watch should’ve gone under Sugess not Seestern. Not a big deal of course but I’m with you on that one.
thanks for the review.. I have one question .. I wonder the bracelet on seesterns fits GS SBGM221 ?thinking of the cost of original bracelet of GS this bracelet can be an option I guess..
Thanks Steven, I bought this watch after this review and I am very happy with the purchase. It's a stunning watch at this price point. Quality of dail and crystal is next level.
I bet they use a synthetic sapphire coating over glass just like Apple does on their camera lenses. I'd bet MOST of these Chinese watches with sapphire's are just that-a coating
Well, to be a counterfeit, it must violate IP Rights. Feel free to show us exactly where these IP rights have been infringed. From what I can see: Trademark infringement - No Copyright infringement - N/A , no Patent infringement - No Given the magnitude of prior art and the utilitarian nature of a watch, it would be nearly impossible to claim an infringement. However, I remain all eyes and ears. Please proceed with your argument(s).
@@rioriggs3568 That's painting supporters of counterfeit goods as smart shoppers and people who buy legitimate products as chumps. The IP was STOLEN. Companies like Seiko, Rolex, Omega, etc invest millions of dollars in developing products and employing workers. They deserve to be supported by enthusiasts. If you choose to support sweatshops that produce stolen designs, you are no friend to the watch community. Be a good citizen- save your shekels and buy the real thing.
Great review as always Steve, thank you! I'm very happy that you reviewed this watch as I've been very interested. It really seems to be a great watch with no major negatives at all. I like the dark blue dial. Have it in my basket just finalizing my decision on color, but I'd like to buy it while it is on sale and with the free strap. Thank you again for sharing.
I don't mind affordable watches, but I dislike it when an affordable piece outright copies the design language of another well known watch. It's like comparing apples and oranges, a Land Rover with its Chinese cousin the Land Wind. They are not the same. If you can afford it, please treat yourself to either a real Grand Seiko or another beautiful luxury watch (life's too short!). If you can't, there are plenty of affordable and ORIGINAL watch offerings (at various price points) from Casio, Citizen, Timex, Hamilton, Nomos etc.
I disagree. As long as IP rights are not infringed, from a pure legal standpoint...then go for it! I own my share of luxury watches from the likes of Rolex, Glashutte, Breitling. I also own so-called homage watches. Why? Because there are times when I absolutely do not want to wear a watch that costs in excess of $15K. When I am on international travel for business or simply walking about town...I tend to avoid the luxury watches because I value my arm more than any watch. I also tend to limit use of the luxury watches to special occasions. I used to wear the Rolex daily...especially during its first decade of ownership...but when it comes to maintenance...at $1200 a pop...I am better off limiting its use to special occasions going forward. The Glashutte, with its 39 jeweled inhouse mov't w/extra complications (power reserve, moon phase, date) is even more costly that the Rolex to maintain. As for copying...there is so much prior art with these utilitarian devices...it's an impossible argument and purely a matter of degree. For instance, I just bought a Seestern S436...which is purportedly a homage of the Glashutte SeaQ. However, the SeaQ is a homage to the GUB diver (G.O.'s East German predecessor; from the 1960's)...which was a blatant nock-off to a French-made diver from the 1960's. Who has rights to the design? At this date...the answer is that the key design elements are in the public domain.
@@jb678901 Whilst I do see your valid points, and yes it is not illegal what they are doing, I still don't like it when designers copy. From my perspective as a former Industrial Designer, I know what it feels like to have your hard work stolen by another company. I used to work for a furniture company, and a sofa I designed won the 2008 MIFF best sofa design for that year. Within a couple of months we noted there were Chinese knock off's reaching our markets, and it sucked cause I spent a good part of a year designing, prototyping, testing the design only to have someone else literally copy my work and put on the market as an inferior cheaper product even though it 'looked' similar, and used similar if not poorer materials and finishing. If I'm not wearing one of my mor precious time pieces, I wear other options, such as a Seiko Sharp Edge, a G-shock, or my Mondaine Quartz. Everyone has their own opinion on the topic. After all, there are only so many ways you can design a watch, a chair, a table, and I respect everyones choices should they want to wear fake Rolex, or a Fossil watch. ✌
@@jb678901 It seems that most watches take something from previous conservative watches, today's watches are not as original as the first versions. I am with you, the best watch is the one that matches the user.
Quite nice, but there always seems to be flaw in these Ali Express watches. The bracelet brushing is both in the wrong direction in places and crudely done. Maybe buy it and put it on a strap. It looks good on the brown leather strap shown.
Nice review! Was waiting for this model. The gmt hand... is it not flamed blue? But still it catches light like a flamed blue. Is that possible even if it isn't flamed blue?
3 ways to do blued hands that I know of...flamed, painted, and chemical...I believe this is the chemical way...it's much too perfect to be flamed, and much too nice to be painted.
This is hands down my current favorite AliExpress Watch. I think you’re the first one to review this. That B-Roll was phenomenal, both in camera work as well as Seestern doing a great job with the details. I like it so much, I’m not even upset about the 19mm lugs or the two holes of micro adjust. Thanks for the great review!
Much appreciated man. Some watches make the Broll look easy and this is one of them. It wears so good and is proportioned so well that, like you, I'm not too bothered by the 19mm lugs...thankfully about $20 in straps has me covered for any outfit.
@@EscapeWheel bought mine in red yesterday. Couldn't find any video reviews of it at the time but saw this today and I'm even more excited now. Great work on the b-roll and video!
@@ES-sf1tz thank you! That red dial looks 🔥🔥. Enjoy it! Come share on Reddit r/Chinesewatches when it arrives!
The Grand Seiko sbgm 221 is my grail watch, but can't afford it at this time, and when I saw this watch I jumped on it right away . It is almost identical specs wise, other then the polish, and the movement , and water resistance its perfect!!! Mine should arrive a y day now looks amazing!!! Yours is the first review of this beauty! Well done!!!😊
For a watch paying homage to a GS with high beat movement, I’d much prefer a Miyota 9075 since it’s a 4 Hz movement. But this is a nice looking watch nonetheless. 😊
A second awesome offering from Seestern. I hope they keep the name: Sugess doesn't mean anything, Seestern is German for starfish as you know, so like Sternglas it has a much more authentic ring to it than something silly like Sugess. And Seestern is an important business district in the city of Düsseldorf, Germany, some twenty miles from where I live
I agree... Sugess name and font are just nasty like so many aliexpress 'brands". Seestern actually means something (somehow related to diving) and I find the branding unique. The sea star is cool and the the Great Wave off Kanagawa case back that also includes the sea star is simply stunning! I would love if they would use it on all their watches!
I can't afford a Grand Seiko, so this will be my next 'attainable grail' watch. The brown and blue straps make the watch stand out even more. Good review 👍🏼
Beautiful watch without the huge price tag. This brand has slowly built a reputation for good quality [not superb by any means] at a reasonable price.
The blue leather strap really pairs well with this timepiece.
Great engineering with minimal rehaut and the domed crystal making room for the GMT handset.
Looks like a winner on many straps. Thanks, Steve!
Grand Seestern
They say imitation is the greatest form of flattery..
they need a logo.. the print makes it look cheap
Thank you for your review. It's great to see this homage. I'm bored of the endless Rolex gmt ones, plus I love the original Seiko. This looks so good!
Same here. I'm selling most of my Rolex homages, kind of over them. Loving these more obscure homages.
I can't justify the GS price but I can grab this one today. Thanks Seiko for the design and the movement
Fortunately it's thick and has male endlinks....other wise I'd be buying 2 lol. Def too thick
I’ve been looking for a review of this watch for the last 10 days and could only find one and it disappeared. I’m really excited about ordering this watch. I just wanted to see somebody’s professional opinion. Thank you for posting this.
Thanks for watching! Hope it's helpful one way or another 👍
Do you have a review of the red one? I want to check out those striped dials
@@vasilisanagnostopoulos50 I wish. I'm curious to see it too...hopefully another reviewer was more daring than I was 😂🤞
Beautiful watch, no doubt about it, but at $220 not sure. Will wait for sales prices
Nooooooo! Sugess name and script font suck! Looks like something from the cheap clothing industry of the 80s!
Looks a lovely watch been waiting for someone to show it, thanks for your reveiw, great stuff. Cheers.
Only complaint I have is this should have a nicely engraved caseback instead of display. Gorgeous finishing elsewhere though!
You said cream but why does the face of the watch have a lime'ish tent to it. Is it my tv or your camera?
I also feel the same. It may be affected by the light but pretty sure it's color is difference to that on GS. GS dial looks like ivory and creamy.
I'm not really sure. When side by side with other cream dials I guess it may have a very slight green tint to it...also the lighting/camera may play into that as well...hard to say.
Can't say I've seen the green tint IRL when the watch is on its own.
Thanks for the review, my wrist is only 15cm/5.9 inch, do u think the bracelet and the strap will fit? Thanks
I can't get over the finishing on the dial and hands, a huge step up for them. Hopefully the QA/QC is good to go and we don't get any junkers out there. Awesome review as always!
San Martins are known for their great QC that's why their prices are little higher when compare to other AliExpress brands.
What a great looking watch!... Love those dauphine hands. Need it to come down in price a bit more for me. I'm surprised they went with the Seestern name on this (as this is more utility watches).. rather than Sugess, which I thought was their formal style watch brand.
I'm not usually into something like this, what I would consider a more dressy watch; but this is a real stunner. I mean, WOW, the polishing, the bracelet, the cream dial (that's supposed to be the boring one lol), the clasp, everything just looks executed perfectly. Lastly I wanted to say this watch isn't kind of a strap monster, it's absolutely a strap BEAST. Every one you showcased looked amazing. I am really blown away with what you get in this watch for only around $200. Excellent review!
I scratched the crystal minorly on my GS SBGM221 and the crystal would be $500, so a whole watch for less than the cost of the crystal for the real thing haha
Lol, crazy to think about it that way
Great review , damn it ! It’s on my list .🙄
Looks great on that strap, great design work from Seiko and well done homage from Seestern, I have the Seestern Doxa homage which was also quite well executed. I also own watches designed and manufactured in house, but I can appreciate a well done homage, especially if it comes in non factory colors etc. Thanks for the review.
Agreed, love the color options on this one.
Perfect🔬⌚️🤟
I wish it had a PT5000 movement
What wrist size do you have?
Hell yeah, I was waiting for this to get fully reviewed. John did a mini mention but no review per say. I love my seestern doxa homage so I'm now a seestern fan.
They may not be quite as sharp or refined as San Martin but they BRING IT..quality to price is hard to beat. They are pretty close to my top 3 Ali brands.
Hey Steve, which are the other contenders for your top 3? 👀 I guess san martin's one
@@Gerardo_Alba San Martin, IXDAO, and Seestern/sugess
@EscapeWheel I agree so far. My san martin 6200 Vintage Diver homage is extremely well built and a little more refined in areas from the seestern 600t homage. The crown and bezel action is where I noticed the biggest difference. That and the regulation. However, my seestern did freeze outside for 5 hours in negative degree weather, so I think the movement is a bit fried. Possibly, that has resulted in some issues that I've noticed with the crown action.
proves what I have always thought. Luxury watches are overpriced rip off
I don't know if I'd go that far...but I sure wouldn't really appreciate the extra that goes into them...$4K for a nicer movement and better polishing and brand history? Eh 🤷
We need a side-by-side to determine the value difference.
Honestly the original is thicker and only has 30 meters water resist.
Exactly....love the watch
One thing I really like about some of the grand Seiko 's are some of the surface dials are really phenomenal...I kind of wish they would put a little more attention into the dial surfaces themselves. It's not just about offering lots of colors it's about really making them look complex and/or rich... Like even the enamel dials are really luxurious looking. And I just don't ever want to see another display case back on a Seiko NH30 series again!
All of you 6 3/4" (17.13 CM) wrists chime in here..... How'd it fit?
absolutely beautiful design, I would love a 3 hand version, kinda tired of the GMT flood
The 3 hand version came out last year
direct 1 to 1 copy of the SBGM221 grand seiko
..or SBGM031?
wrong color scheme my boy@@jb678901
Hunted one down after watching this video and I finally have it. Wow. This has to be an all-time favorite. Even with the small clasp, it wears so comfortably and it's such a beautiful watch to stare at. Makes me wonder if a GS is actually necessary.
the same can be said about all these homage brands. I honestly cannot see myself spending over $1K on ANY watch, let along multiple thousands. and these homage brands are killing it with giving us 90% of the experience for a small fraction of the real deal's price. it's hard to beat.
Looks amazing
so many great models on AliExpress but not saled on its Chinese cousin Taobao, 😢
Awesome review as usual. This dial color belongs on a brown alligator strap IMO. Can you measure the case thickness? I think you’re right that it’s around 10mm.
Tough to measure, closure I got was right at 10mm 👍
Thanks!! Last question, are there half links?
@@ronb4115 no half links
@@EscapeWheel Thanks 👍🏼
I think it's a beautiful copy of the Grand Seiko. But, it's a copy and I'd feel kinda weird wearing it. Especially if anyone who knows watches commented on my "Grand Seiko".
Yeah, but it's GS...not Rolex. I feel like the chances of running into an actual watch nut that knows GS is VERY slim. At least in my experience
I bought the Seestern S435 (S.S., blue dial, Seagull ST2130 high beat movt) from the Surgess official store on Aliexpress about 3 months ago...and remain stunned by the quality coming out of Seestern. Terrific watch. Wearing it most days. However, I am also wearing the S446 GMT, from time to time. Bought this GMT model (with the black dial, red GMT hand) about 2 months ago, same store. Again, Seestern hit it out of the park. Quality, fit, finish...fantastic.
Yup, excellent value for money and the execution is spot on with these. Enjoy them both!
Can anyone please check if the bracelet works on that actual grand seiko GMT?
Great review as always, Steve, thanks! And I totally agree that this watch should’ve gone under Sugess not Seestern. Not a big deal of course but I’m with you on that one.
Thanks man. Great minds think alike 👍
I bought the red version using your affiliate link. The watch arrived in Canada 🇨🇦 yesterday, just waiting for delivery.
Nice! Thanks for the support. Enjoy it! The red looks amazing! Honeymoon phase is still strong with this one. 👍
thanks for the review.. I have one question .. I wonder the bracelet on seesterns fits GS SBGM221 ?thinking of the cost of original bracelet of GS this bracelet can be an option I guess..
I also want to know that but for SBGA407/SBGE271. If someone try answer please.
This is a great looking watch. I'm not a fan of GMT watches, but if I get one, this one will be at the top of my list.
starfish logo looks weird on gs looks. should be applied sugess logo it would be better lol
Thanks Steven, I bought this watch after this review and I am very happy with the purchase. It's a stunning watch at this price point. Quality of dail and crystal is next level.
You are very welcome. Still loving mine as well. What a beauty.
Enjoy it!
The workmanship of these Chinese watches has gotten really good!
@@MADHIKER777 huge strides over the last few years.
would you say seestern finishing has surpass SM?
Hello, possible to update the link of the leather bracelets please :)
Sorry, the shop seems to be gone. Bummer
I bet they use a synthetic sapphire coating over glass just like Apple does on their camera lenses. I'd bet MOST of these Chinese watches with sapphire's are just that-a coating
Are these solid links? (bracelet)
wow … that seestern is very sharp even close-up 🎉
An office GMT, oh well.
Very good looking homage
"Homage" my ass. This is a knock off. You shouldn't support thinly veiled counterfeits.
I used to care until I realized anyone buying this can’t or doesn’t want to afford the original.
It is what it is.
Well, to be a counterfeit, it must violate IP Rights. Feel free to show us exactly where these IP rights have been infringed. From what I can see:
Trademark infringement - No
Copyright infringement - N/A , no
Patent infringement - No
Given the magnitude of prior art and the utilitarian nature of a watch, it would be nearly impossible to claim an infringement. However, I remain all eyes and ears. Please proceed with your argument(s).
I can understand that folks who paid $5,000 for the original are salty that such a good quality equivalent is available for $250.
@@rioriggs3568 That's painting supporters of counterfeit goods as smart shoppers and people who buy legitimate products as chumps. The IP was STOLEN. Companies like Seiko, Rolex, Omega, etc invest millions of dollars in developing products and employing workers. They deserve to be supported by enthusiasts. If you choose to support sweatshops that produce stolen designs, you are no friend to the watch community. Be a good citizen- save your shekels and buy the real thing.
Yeah but the readout is wrong.
Six o'clock should be 18:00 hours.
The GMT hand is independt from the main time. You can adjust it as needed to track another time zone.
Yeah but it doesn't look right.
@@freepeacesweet.7547 you can fix it to make it look right...lol
Yeah I get it now.
Great to see this one.
Wow... Thie is a beautiful watch
Seestern should seriously consider stop putting that cartoonish starfish logo on their watches. They should stylize it more or skip it altogether.
Just stick to the sugess branding, especially on a watch like this.
I actually like the starfish! First Aliexpress "brand" to have a real original logo! I agree perhaps it should be reserved for diving watches.
Wow!It is a beauty!!!
Is the gmt hand functional as a gmt,or is it just a 24h hand?Looks nice
Functional and independently adjustable..I have it tracking Germany time zone living in the eastern US 👍
@@EscapeWheel Thanks a bunch :)
So 19mm bracelet will fit here?
It's 19mm lugs, but getting a curved end metal bracelet to fit will be tough. Straight end and normal straps, yes, 19mm
Can not find in taobao
Cool watch! When is the next sale on ali?
Next month I believe. Next BIG same is in March for the anniversary sale. Should be some good prices then
Thanks!
Great review as always Steve, thank you! I'm very happy that you reviewed this watch as I've been very interested. It really seems to be a great watch with no major negatives at all. I like the dark blue dial. Have it in my basket just finalizing my decision on color, but I'd like to buy it while it is on sale and with the free strap. Thank you again for sharing.
Thank you so much. Hope the review was helpful. The blue looks really nice indeed...but man, they ALL look nice. 😂
@EscapeWheel You're reviews are always extremely informative, and in this case what I needed. And yes, hard to pick a color, they are all nice 👍
@@felo6035 thank you...long reviews, but hopefully I cover everything you all need to know
@@EscapeWheel👍
this might be a dumb question, but what is the purpose of the inner 24 hour numbers?
Small blue hand is a GMT hand...independently adjustable so it tracks a 2nd time zone. I have mine set for Germany timezones to track my colleagues
@@EscapeWheel I understand the GMT smaller hour hand, but still don't understand the significance of the 24 hour numbers
@@Yelwas the hand rotates 1 revolution around the dial per day, so the GMT hand points to the time(in 24 hour format).
@@EscapeWheel got it, I thought the GMT did 2 revolutions per 24 hours, like the main hour hand
@@Yelwas nope! the more you know! 😂
Great watch, now which colour to I get?
Lol, right? Tough decisions.
I just finished watching a report on Justin Trudeau's illegal policy actions while in office, so I bought the black face in his honor!
@@jb678901 hahaha being Canadian I get it and this is totally funny! What a deuchebag he is! I may black face too
I don't mind affordable watches, but I dislike it when an affordable piece outright copies the design language of another well known watch. It's like comparing apples and oranges, a Land Rover with its Chinese cousin the Land Wind. They are not the same. If you can afford it, please treat yourself to either a real Grand Seiko or another beautiful luxury watch (life's too short!). If you can't, there are plenty of affordable and ORIGINAL watch offerings (at various price points) from Casio, Citizen, Timex, Hamilton, Nomos etc.
I disagree. As long as IP rights are not infringed, from a pure legal standpoint...then go for it! I own my share of luxury watches from the likes of Rolex, Glashutte, Breitling. I also own so-called homage watches. Why? Because there are times when I absolutely do not want to wear a watch that costs in excess of $15K. When I am on international travel for business or simply walking about town...I tend to avoid the luxury watches because I value my arm more than any watch. I also tend to limit use of the luxury watches to special occasions. I used to wear the Rolex daily...especially during its first decade of ownership...but when it comes to maintenance...at $1200 a pop...I am better off limiting its use to special occasions going forward. The Glashutte, with its 39 jeweled inhouse mov't w/extra complications (power reserve, moon phase, date) is even more costly that the Rolex to maintain.
As for copying...there is so much prior art with these utilitarian devices...it's an impossible argument and purely a matter of degree. For instance, I just bought a Seestern S436...which is purportedly a homage of the Glashutte SeaQ. However, the SeaQ is a homage to the GUB diver (G.O.'s East German predecessor; from the 1960's)...which was a blatant nock-off to a French-made diver from the 1960's. Who has rights to the design? At this date...the answer is that the key design elements are in the public domain.
@@jb678901 Whilst I do see your valid points, and yes it is not illegal what they are doing, I still don't like it when designers copy. From my perspective as a former Industrial Designer, I know what it feels like to have your hard work stolen by another company. I used to work for a furniture company, and a sofa I designed won the 2008 MIFF best sofa design for that year. Within a couple of months we noted there were Chinese knock off's reaching our markets, and it sucked cause I spent a good part of a year designing, prototyping, testing the design only to have someone else literally copy my work and put on the market as an inferior cheaper product even though it 'looked' similar, and used similar if not poorer materials and finishing. If I'm not wearing one of my mor precious time pieces, I wear other options, such as a Seiko Sharp Edge, a G-shock, or my Mondaine Quartz. Everyone has their own opinion on the topic. After all, there are only so many ways you can design a watch, a chair, a table, and I respect everyones choices should they want to wear fake Rolex, or a Fossil watch. ✌
@@jb678901
It seems that most watches take something from previous conservative watches, today's watches are not as original as the first versions.
I am with you, the best watch is the one that matches the user.
Quite nice, but there always seems to be flaw in these Ali Express watches. The bracelet brushing is both in the wrong direction in places and crudely done. Maybe buy it and put it on a strap. It looks good on the brown leather strap shown.
That's how I've been wearing it. I've seen other reviews where the bracelet brushing looks better so I just got a bad one.
Nice review! Was waiting for this model. The gmt hand... is it not flamed blue? But still it catches light like a flamed blue. Is that possible even if it isn't flamed blue?
3 ways to do blued hands that I know of...flamed, painted, and chemical...I believe this is the chemical way...it's much too perfect to be flamed, and much too nice to be painted.
Seestern is out of control, needs to be shut down