what's the point of internet fame?

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  • @confessorcabal8964
    @confessorcabal8964 Місяць тому +3

    This video was genuinely refreshing. It's a shame that not that many people have seen it.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @Ranall75
    @Ranall75 10 днів тому +3

    i used to make movies on MS Paint with mp3s too. I had a few with misleading popular current events and thumbnails, and disabled the comments. a few got over a million views. Good times. i have never needed internet attention ever since

  • @SwaggyG_2102
    @SwaggyG_2102 2 місяці тому +83

    To me, the point of internet fame, regardless of whether it is good or bad, is to leave something behind after you are long gone.
    It's like leaving a note to the world that reads:
    "Hey, I existed! And this is what I did!"

    • @CNYKnifeNut
      @CNYKnifeNut 2 місяці тому +9

      Fame seems like it would be more of a hindrance to that. It would add heaps of other people's opinions of what they thought you were, overwhelming what you actually were.
      I make videos (different account) centering around my hobbies, mostly just for personal documentation but also for my young nephews to see in the future. Fame would destroy any drive I had to continue doing it.

    • @LoneWanderer905
      @LoneWanderer905 2 місяці тому +1

      There's quite a few ways to leave a legacy, and I don't think being famous (or internet famous) is ranked very high on the best ways to leave a legacy.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 2 місяці тому +5

      "Hey, I existed! And this is what I did!"
      Yes, the very definition of "narcissist".
      Me personally? I enjoy the anonymity and all I care about is living a happy life and being a good person who loves the people around him and who love him back. That's all I need.

    • @EnableDnable
      @EnableDnable 2 місяці тому

      @@terrydaktyllus1320you want a metal or something? There’s nothing inherently narcissistic about what they said. You’re just a bitter person.

    • @DylanEggerton
      @DylanEggerton 2 місяці тому +8

      @@terrydaktyllus1320you want a metal or something? There’s nothing narcissistic about what they said.

  • @OnlineVideoSurfer
    @OnlineVideoSurfer 2 місяці тому +26

    Just a small thing. I'm going to push back a little on the idea that being infamous to become famous really got its start with the Internet. When I think back to the 90s and shows like Jerry Springer, most of those guests knew they were debasing themselves for their 15 minutes of fame. Hell even Springer himself wasn't exactly loved for any particular talent, so to speak. And as you note Fishtank absolutely has its roots in Reality TV, even if it's a step further into degeneracy. Now it certainly got worse with the Internet, people can now sustain their infamy beyond their original 15 minutes with endless hot takes, weird online fights, drama, scams, and other disgusting behavior, but the seeds were planted long ago.
    That said I do think, again as you note, that the accessibility and the feeling that YOU can become famous by starting your own channel/page/whatever is what's different about the Internet. That and how these sites incentivize people to exploit everything about themselves for a fickle chance at money and fame. These are the poison pills that tempts many to feed the content machine before getting consumed themselves by the machine. And I think you do a good job talking about the psychology of it.
    Your videos remind me of EmpLemon. Very well researched and very well made!

    • @LoneWanderer905
      @LoneWanderer905 2 місяці тому +1

      @@OnlineVideoSurfer I agree with mostly everything you said. When I was younger, dumber and "edgier", I even liked some of that stuff, but I always supposed people were playing characters, but as time went by it was clear that some of these UA-camrs completely lost the line that separated "personal stuff" and "content", and pretty much lost themselves into their characters (and as I got older and just a bit wiser, I started to realize that maybe some of them weren't characters to begin with, which was pretty sad in a way).

    • @MentalDeviant
      @MentalDeviant 2 місяці тому

      Or people start a channel to be apart of a community and make money talking about what they want. And providing content people want. Not all people on UA-cam are toxic.

  • @Ghoulonoid
    @Ghoulonoid 2 місяці тому +18

    I don't think a lot of people want to admit this, but a lot of the desire for fame from people is the desire for power and control. A famous person projects the persona that they are in control of the situation (or that they don't care what happens to them, which is another kind of control when you think about it). People take advice from them, and see them as someone to take direction from. If you're influencing people to think a certain way, or even just think about a certain thing, that gives you a stronger level of control over the world than the average nobody without a platform.
    That's why we feel so miserable in this state of affairs. Everyone is constantly being pushed and pulled and yanked all over the place by everyone around them. And you've got to play the game too if you don't want to fall behind. Its a prison mentality, where you feel like you have to take someone out on your first day there to earn respect of the other inmates so they don't do the same to you.
    Why do we keep participating in this madness? Maybe because we live in an age where people have less control over their lives than ever before.

    • @LoneWanderer905
      @LoneWanderer905 2 місяці тому

      @@Ghoulonoid the sad part is that most of the times it isn't even by people actually around them, it's just randoms on the internet.
      Takes me back to that Tyler the Creator quote about cyberbull1ing. Just walking away from the screen is what people need to do sometimes.

  • @FractalThroughEternity
    @FractalThroughEternity 22 дні тому +2

    Thank you being yourself and doing what you love.

  • @ErinJeanette
    @ErinJeanette 2 місяці тому +6

    Bo is about three years younger than me, I think this is definitely a mixture of how/when he got famous, but the burden of creativity. I'm definitely not creative, not an artist, never felt the need to perform or be seen, and bo and I would have been in high school at the same time so it's not like a crazy age gap thing. My daughter is 15, she isn't even remotely trying to perform for anyone. The bigger problem is for the majority of us who aren't artists nor creative who have an endless supply of distractions. I appreciate the people who make projects just like this, i could never do it. I never wanted to and my zoomer kid posted a few little gacha life videos on my page when she was like 7 and they make me cry cuz they're so cute but she had no desire to be internet famous.

  • @DividedWarrior
    @DividedWarrior 2 місяці тому +12

    Dude, I thought I was the only person that made frame-by-frame Microsoft Paint animations in Windows Movie Maker. That's how I started too! U rock!

    • @TrizziEhgan
      @TrizziEhgan 2 місяці тому +1

      Can't forget about ChaoChao0071...

  • @Ratboycure
    @Ratboycure Місяць тому +1

    dont go changin Ponyboy!
    dude just found your channel. this is the type of shit that still makes me love youtube. nice work fellah

  • @rmyers99
    @rmyers99 2 місяці тому +8

    Make whatever you like and I'll watch. Don't do it for me, do it for you. I enjoy your content and approach to this. So why did I make this comment? I guess because I feel like a huge swath of society is disaffected right now and searching for meaning and purpose. More ennui than has been present in society in living memory. And when I meet a 'fellow traveler' as it were - someone being introspective, asking metacognitive questions. That interests me and I feel an affinity with people that ask these questions and have interesting things to say about them. There's a malaise in the world right now and we're in a time of change and transition. To what, we do not know. It's scary and so we look to content creators to dispense their hot takes so as to give us, the viewers, a comfort that if nothing else, someone else out there is asking these questions too.

  • @KiaraValentine
    @KiaraValentine 2 місяці тому +13

    Do what you love, while you like it 💚

  • @Grim2
    @Grim2 2 місяці тому +7

    "Oh, no! MONEY!"
    ~Internet celebrity

  • @a_qmz
    @a_qmz 2 місяці тому +62

    there is none

  • @senflyer-
    @senflyer- 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for posting this! It went in a bit of a different direction than I expected from the title. I didn't know about everyone you talked about but you did a good job at explaining it in a beginner friendly way. My fav vid essays are those that get you thinking about the topic rather than only listening.

  • @melasnexperience
    @melasnexperience 2 місяці тому +4

    I got the bright idea to write a piece of original fiction for a fiction blog. Last year. Writing is my art, because I can't draw & I'm camera shy. Unfortunately, the days of people being willing to read something online without pictures and that isn't a fanfic are long gone, and that's putting aside any quality issues (I hold no illusions of being a literary master). So I made art to share it, and it landed with a big wet fart.

  • @Reality_Checkmate
    @Reality_Checkmate 2 місяці тому +5

    "It's all about ME! ME ME ME!" This entire video seems to be hyper-focused on how fully self-absorbed these sad people are. They're all full blown sociopaths. Some people actually just want to give something back to the world. That's it. Educate people. Make them laugh. Do something productive that benefits others & adds value to people's lives. Sadly, some people can't comprehend that.
    I've been watching this guy's videos about old-school arcade games for a while. I had no idea until today that he's actually a quadruple amputee who's currently fighting for his life (again). He may have already passed as I write this. He barley has an audience. Does he make videos to be "famous"? I doubt it. He likes to give the history of his favorite old games and make people laugh with his corny dad humor. I honestly think his sole purpose for making videos is simply to give him some kind of purpose so he doesn't shrivel up and die.
    Watching him makes me want to stop feeling sorry for myself. The dude stands tall with no freaking legs and bowls & plays video games with his kids without any hands. He doesn't have an excuse to give up. Now tell me again about what a "victim" you are? You don't have an excuse to be greedy and self-absorbed. Everything isn't about YOU. The more you focus on benefiting those around you instead of just yourself, the more you grow as a person and the stronger you become. 🎤💥
    ua-cam.com/video/MRTWF8FuDMg/v-deo.htmlsi=LQPwACLJ5j5Qsv0p

  • @oikoj7869
    @oikoj7869 2 місяці тому +10

    I think that, if money isn't part of the equation, consumers should stop caring so much about creators, and creators about their viewers. In the end we are strangers to each other, and the attention of strangers should not matter that much to us.

    • @patratrick
      @patratrick  2 місяці тому +2

      I think UA-cam having a (reasonably obtainable) money incentive really changed a majority of things for the worse. Feel like a lot of creators don't wanna risk those really out there ideas they wanna make out of fear of failure. Where there's probably lots of seriously great videos rotting on a channels with a handful of views.

    • @oikoj7869
      @oikoj7869 2 місяці тому

      @@patratrick Well that's the thing about UA-cam where it pushes certain things, and with the algorithm that does not help with this at all. Especially since virtually nobody knows exactly how it works. I honestly hope that every creator that makes good content does not care about fame, as that way they can keep doing what makes their channel great without stress. But I think the atmosphere is changing, less people want to make UA-cam into a career unless they already have a community. And because we saw countless times that people that want fame and money out of UA-cam rarely get it and if, for not long.

  • @JakAttack12345
    @JakAttack12345 2 місяці тому +25

    I absolutely despise Sam Hyde, but I did find the section over Fish Tank to be extremely interesting. It's a distressing idea for a show, a live stream where your fate is at the hands of Sam Hyde fans, but it's essentially just the purest form of capital-C Content there is - watch a livestream of people debasing themselves for a chance at cash, like a late-stage Mr. Beast video. As someone who has been struggling to write a video over very similar topics to this, I think this was a very thoughtful essay, and I hope it's not the last one. I enjoy your horror content, of course, but so long as you're making things you enjoy, I hope to continue watching.

  • @JimMilton-ej6zi
    @JimMilton-ej6zi 2 місяці тому +4

    I think anyone who says that being internet famous is hard is like people who say that money doesn't buy happiness. If they really don't like it, they can easily get rid of it or give it to someone else very easily, but they won't because they don't actually believe that.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 2 місяці тому

      Indeed, they can go get a proper job, like the rest of us - and, for the record, I absolutely enjoy my job in IT and cyber-security because it means I get paid to do my computing hobby anyway.

    • @WettestMuscle65
      @WettestMuscle65 2 місяці тому +1

      I understand the point. It’s very logical. I just think it’s more nuanced than that. For some reason the drive a person feels to be famous or rich is a psychological wiring. To simply “give it up” ain’t so simple.

  • @forinthemorning0400
    @forinthemorning0400 15 годин тому

    being a "newtuber," this was an interesting watch. always wanted to create about multiple topics but wonder if i'll end up chasing the algorithm [tm] since certain subjects are already outperforming others. guess i want to build at least a modest platform to aid my dream projects and entertain but bring benefit in some way, even if it's small
    don't be afraid to do what you want. i'll be here

  • @drewo.127
    @drewo.127 2 місяці тому +1

    3:20 this reminds me:
    One thing I want to do is grow whatever online thing I make, but avoid any cheesy, annoying promotion things like just throwing my accounts on every comment section! And just as I said that I got an idea: just look for comment threads that are related to what I do and allow self promotion posts, but even then I want to make sure I’m not being annoying!
    The thing is that I’m nervous about not being assertive enough with my advertising, or too assertive, more aggressive with it! Too passive, and I might not get as much traction. Too much and I’ll come off as attention hungry! I know the key is to find a balance, allow organic growth, and only boost if needed, and not too much! I just fear I might fall into the attention hungry part if I or anyone even just bring up whatever I do!

  • @Sleezy.Design
    @Sleezy.Design 2 місяці тому +1

    I almost gave up on finding a good video to watch tonight, but you uploaded just at the right time, nice 🤩

  • @Y_e_e_e_e
    @Y_e_e_e_e Місяць тому +1

    this is kinda off topic with the vid but you should do a video on animatic battle/object fool/animatic battle

  • @Jabjabs
    @Jabjabs Місяць тому

    This is why I am fascinated by folks like Noah Munck. Became semi-famous via the show iCarly but afterwards went on to do his youtube channel Sadworld. Rather than try and hold onto what gave him fame, it is the complete opposite. Just doing what he finds amusing. Those that follow it love it, those that stay are there for exactly what it is. Works so gruesome and confronting in their subject and execution that 95% of those that find it would be driven away immediately. Also very funny stuff.
    It has been said that if people who truly understand the beauty of art made what they find genuinely appealing, it would look profoundly ugly. A lot of Gen Z/Alpha memes are like this, it gives me a lot of hope and inspiration for the future where people just express themselves without an alternative motive to "make it big". This is why stuff like Tim and Eric found their niche in the mid 2000's; heck this is basically a badge of honor for a large part of adult swim. Stuff that isn't made to be the pinnacle of acceptability, it is stuff that is for the fringes that is done just for the sake of doing it. Eric Andre said this of his self titled show, the only reason he hasn't stopped it is because there is almost no exceptions on what he is allowed to do, it is creative freedom with the funds provided to make it happen. It is a rare a beautiful thing.
    I have said it for years "The more one tries to appease the masses, the more boring the result will be. This is not a fault of the people but the fault of broad aspiration.". This is becoming much more apparent across almost all media types. The search for broad fame is a quest to file off all the sharp edges.
    It has been fun seeing some folks that have had reasonable fame that are heading out the door of the attention treadmill. Douglas Rushkoff the tech writer/critic for the last 40 years, just a few months back finally said "You know what, I'm not going to try and keep up with the pace of the internet any more". Has gone from weekly podcasts and articles to posting about 3 in the last 4 months. Hasn't completely left let but it is something he has talked about a lot over the years. I am not saying that leaving this place is the solution, but the idea of you upload and produce on your shedule instead of the algorithms schedule is a powerful one. But that is also a point of privilege since many people end up with their living coming from their fame, having the option to leave without being harmed by it is not one many can talk, they have become entrapped by the system. A nightly strange predicament to be in.
    I don't know what the answer to this is. People are inherently social. I suppose it would be, do what you love. It is also gets attention that's great but it is doesn't - try not to cling to the idea of what it "should be". Part of happiness is the difference between expectation and reality. The other part is that happiness is when you are no longer seeking happiness. Easy to say, difficult to do, but it can be done.

  • @goodoldmix
    @goodoldmix 12 днів тому

    To be honest... Thats a question I must ask to myself. I've been trying so hard to create content, in diverse channels, FiveM series, gaming, vlog, motivational, and even now funny cs videos... Doing stream...
    Just a few things that I truly enjoy, but maybe I'm doing with the wrong purpose.
    I gotta think about it.
    Also, giving so much pressure... Damn, I know that I must take this serious, but also taking some quality of life appart... Idk, plus the three shift work... I don't know. I'm trying so hard to pick every single leaf from the air and the ground... That I'm letting every single one falling from my hands. For what?

  • @awcolorcat
    @awcolorcat Місяць тому +1

    This video helped me put down a weight I didn't know I was carrying

  • @mf_me0w760
    @mf_me0w760 16 днів тому

    I really like your videos man ❤

  • @GreyPower83
    @GreyPower83 2 місяці тому

    Those feelings to create are always there. Before social media i was constantly trying to record music or make backyard indie films, some people are just meant to be creators

  • @AJarOfYams
    @AJarOfYams 2 місяці тому +1

    3:25 A classic film (with a serious message) right there

  • @ShenobiYT
    @ShenobiYT 2 місяці тому

    Commenting while this video is at 1,354 views.
    Really great video. I've learned so much about the old internet, I really appreciate it.

  • @_.tea.
    @_.tea. 2 місяці тому

    I love your videos so much, keep up the work!!

  • @greatsatan666
    @greatsatan666 3 дні тому

    god, you were a sniper? engineer supremacy.

  • @StrangerE0ns
    @StrangerE0ns Місяць тому +1

    Money. The point is money. Some people get lucky and make an idiotic amount of money off of doing stupid shit or downright doing next to nothing and contributing absolutely nothing to the world or anyone around them.
    Let is also be stated every single famous or successful person especially on the internet all look THE FUCKING SAME, and it’s driving me crazy 😂

  • @kobold7466
    @kobold7466 2 місяці тому +2

    if someone says anything other than money they are running a game on a you its that simple

  • @wizcatcheslightning
    @wizcatcheslightning 2 місяці тому

    This resonated well. I can definitely relate to most of what you said here

  • @pyreling
    @pyreling 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video. This one got me.

  • @JustTryGambling
    @JustTryGambling 2 місяці тому

    Through the pursuit of success, we lose the most successful version of us. Our true selves. Everyone wants to find happiness, but they always attribute happiness to having a meaning and being successful. The trouble is that there is no happiness without suffering and pain. But there is also no happiness if all we do is think about the suffering and pain. True happiness lies in living your fears and realizing it wasn’t so dark after all. True happiness lies in you no matter what you are told or pressured to be. Be kind to yourself and others and realize we are just ants on a piece of dirt floating around nothing. And then take solace in that.

  • @deltaroo420
    @deltaroo420 2 місяці тому

    Amazing video, thank you

  • @TayDays1128
    @TayDays1128 2 місяці тому

    Internet fame is so foreign to me. When I was browsing the early internet, the viral content would come from random people making a fun video that they wanted the rest of the world to enjoy. Very rarely showed up again or made any follow ups. Now it seems to be a given that everyone online has to be an Ecelebrity chasing money for as long as possible.

  • @grizzgo
    @grizzgo 2 місяці тому +1

    Hope you don't read the comments but this video good! Very good!

  • @Obeu
    @Obeu 2 місяці тому

    Great vid!

  • @ArmanZaidi
    @ArmanZaidi 2 місяці тому

    we live in surreal times

  • @PoserOtaku
    @PoserOtaku Місяць тому

    32:39 I expect you to make Patratrick like videos lol

  • @beshbreak
    @beshbreak Місяць тому

    really good video I like it! :)

  • @NoBigDealMedia
    @NoBigDealMedia Місяць тому

    Money. It's money.

  • @DiamondWorldYoutube
    @DiamondWorldYoutube 2 місяці тому

    Because i want to be known without any effort

  • @guinea7pig_
    @guinea7pig_ Місяць тому

    all of bros videos go so deep whene they dont mean them to

  • @jayl5032
    @jayl5032 2 місяці тому +1

    Money. That's it. No point in worshipping e-celebs tho. They're about as important as dust on your windowsill.

  • @Shadow_HomieXL
    @Shadow_HomieXL 28 днів тому

    Good video, i think youre seeing a deeper truth in burnham that you want to see. He's a unfunny comedian disguised as a emo ted talk. You playing 3 chords on piano and doing a low effort 1 liner could do the exact same thing. He wasn't "forced" to do anything and the less we pay attention ironic attention seeker people like him the better. We need less navelgazing in this society and more real art.

  • @lightningzero1850
    @lightningzero1850 2 місяці тому

    Fucking nailed it

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 2 місяці тому

    UA-camrs are the first influencers

  • @qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn
    @qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn 2 місяці тому +1

    None

  • @zackkorth2410
    @zackkorth2410 2 місяці тому

    the only reason people do anything is money. ultimate reward. just like religion- if god came down and told everyone he is real but when you die, you're just gone, how many people would keep going to church? zero.

  • @Bationnation
    @Bationnation 2 місяці тому

    Pullin strange

  • @elin_
    @elin_ Місяць тому

    Money and recognition I suppose.. They want to feel important somehow. Most of them are annoying though. I hate that anyone can get famous.

  • @21_315
    @21_315 2 місяці тому

    Good video

  • @mondruner
    @mondruner 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't care about any of those people.

  • @drshlotzkin
    @drshlotzkin 2 місяці тому

    To sell you product.

  • @AxelStrife7
    @AxelStrife7 2 місяці тому +1

    So.....the video is actually just about Bo Bernham.....

  • @Sofasit1806
    @Sofasit1806 2 місяці тому

    Brain damage

  • @KeinZantezuken
    @KeinZantezuken 2 місяці тому +5

    Money is the only sensible and tangible reward you can get. Everything else is pointless: leave something behind? On the internet? Please, it will be forgotten in a month. Shittons of memes, people and stories from early 2000 already no longer exist.
    Fame? Very shortlived. Oh, you are dedicated to work hard and sustain it and even grow it? Up to MrBeats levels eh? It will only last until a twitter snowflake with pronounces finds a tiny speck of dirt on you. Then you are done.
    Attention is a good dopameme hit but as with any dopameme pleasure you will want more and more and more until you crash eerythinng in your blind desire.
    And sure, you also may/will never be able to milk your "internet credit" for money forever, but if you are smart, you can extract good enough chunk for safekeeping before luck runs out (and its normal, dont fret).
    Be smart. Go for tangible and convertible value.

  • @qwertyuiop34567____
    @qwertyuiop34567____ 2 місяці тому

    🚶🏊🏊🏊🏊🏊🏊🏊🏊🏊

  • @DanielLarsonTheBlackDragon
    @DanielLarsonTheBlackDragon 2 місяці тому +4

    Bro had 1 video that popped off and now he’s having an existential crisis 💀

    • @patratrick
      @patratrick  2 місяці тому +2

      errrm actually 🤓☝ I'm kind of a big deal around here

  • @terrydaktyllus1320
    @terrydaktyllus1320 2 місяці тому

    You should have put Musk at the end of the video because the moment I see that idiot's face, along with anyone referred to as an "Internet influencer", I switch off.
    My right to "Free Silence" always overrides someone else's right to "Free Speech". If I can't be doing with their nonsense then I can just walk away from them or switch them off. Trust me, it's very empowering to think in those terms because it means I control the narrative, not anyone else.

  • @starless_void
    @starless_void 2 місяці тому

    This is possibly one of the most insightful pieces of media I've ever consumed on youtube.com/.
    But then again, I still haven't gotten around to watching Inside. Somehow.