Quit Hating on Motorcycle Clubs!!! Weird animosity towards biker families and groups!!!
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- I have noticed a lot of animosity and general disrespect in the comments section lately, why? I am not sure why so many people feel it's necessary to challenge club members. Is it jealousy? Motorcycle club members are not bullies, and they aren't there to intimidate, they are there to have a good time and spend time with their family. No reason to disrespect them!
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One year my wife and I went to the big motorcycle rally in New Hampshire. The motel we stayed at also had a very large amount of 1% the biggest club in the world. When I was cleaning my bike the day we arrived one of them walked up to me gave me a beer and told me I don't have a thing to worry about they were watching the parking lot and my bike would be very safe no one would bother it. Every night when I would clean my bike after the days ride I was always given a beer and the talked to my wife and myself just like we were on of them. That really made us feel good. They really are good people
That's awesome, always had so much respect for the biker brotherhood. When people work together, it's cool.
Why didn't you simply name the Hell's Angels, instead of allude to their identity? That's the reason so many are critical of them, and of Monkey's reverence for them.
@@Scott-ib3tm I don't know the u tube rules and I didn't want my response blocked. Sorry
@@richardboggs260 Thanks Richard. No worries. UA-cam has nothing to do with it. The people who revere these clubs or are entangled with them like Monkey, follow rules set out by the MCs. They include not naming them in discussion. Basically it's sort of a don't talk about us if you're not one of us kind of a thing. It's all part of the code they often try to enforce with violence. That was my point.
@@Scott-ib3tm are you a member of a MC?
If so I didn't mean to break any codes, when I am around MCs I just try to act naturally don't ask any questions and never offer to shake hands unless they offer theirs first. Because I hardly know any of the MCs codes and I don't want to offend them in any way
After serving the military for over 40 years, it’s difficult to consider joining another military style hierarchy. I lost my innocence in the USAF, I lost my youth with the Army. I pretty much got the duty, courage, honor, and respect thing down. I really do prefer to ride alone with Nana. I’m very thankful we are able to travel on our scooter and see and do things that we were not able to do while serving.
It is interesting how seriously MCs consider themselves. I don’t go to clubhouses, so I have no real experience with MC inter workings. But when out in public, the vast majority of affiliated bikers represent themselves respectfully. On occasion, I have seen some of the 1%s riding like assholes, but hell, I ride like that as well.😳😂
Lastly, in our travels across America, the vast majority of all bikers are courteous and respectful. I know that if any biker has a problem on the road, somebody will stop and render assistance if needed. The country could use much more of those traits.
They ride like assholes to better protect themselves, but overall they are awesome people. The name of the game is respect. If you give it, so will they. Sadly those that don’t respect clubs are often the more vocal crowd & cause more problems.
Thank you for your service sir your statement is one of truth..... We could use a whole lot more of those traits.
The country doesn't need more pimps and meth runners. The irony of a guy who's in an anti-child abuse MC doding over 1% clubs who are notorious for pimping underage girls.
@Gaming_Biker No. They are scum who demand you follow their stupid rules. All the while abusing the general public whenever they please.
I'm still confused. Respect is earned. I have rider friends who are club members and those who are not. I am not. Why is there any need to "pay your respects" by waiting to legally pass a group of bikes, club or not, in a different lane? Why is that any different than passing any other vehicle on the road? They don't owe other motorists anything and other motorists don't owe them anything, except common courtesy and obeying traffic laws. It seems to me that waiting for permission to past is extra-ordinary "respect" that is neither earned nor owed and is simply acquiesced to by some out of intimidation or fear of reprisal. It's not respect when done out of fear. That is called coercion. Thoughts?
He uses the word respect in place of submission. That's why nonaffiliated riders have to pay respect to MC's when passing for instance, but the MC is not expected to do the same. It's a convenient way to avoid the truth - the 1% clubs use violence and intimidation to get their way. It's no mystery and the toys for tots stuff has no bearing on the fact that they are, by and large a criminal gang very comfortable with violence. Same as Crips or Bloods, just with a motorcycle focus. Some members of all gangs are no doubt swell guys who are good neighbors and sons, etc. So what? That's not the problem with them - the problem with them is they don't keep their hands to themselves.
The best practice is to simply avoid dealing with them if that's easy enough, and to be prepared with your own plan if you do. While I would never go out of my way to antagonize members of an outlaw gang, I don't play any of that fake respect bullshit either, or care when they think it's okay to pass. I ride where, how, and when I want - that's the whole damn point!! I also carry a firearm, know how to use it, and the laws surrounding the use of deadly force.
I remember when I got my first bike - 22 years ago, and people kept asking me if I was going to go to this rally or that event (Non 1%) and I could never understand the appeal. I got the bike to ride, not be a part of a social organization.
Do what you want, no one gives a $hit.
@@Scott-ib3tm Right on brother.
I think & know that "barging" past anyone whether that be in a bar, concert but especially in a formation of heavy questionably braked projectiles makes it as much a health & safety issue as much as general decency. would you race past a group of council workers?!
This. Exactly my thoughts on it as well. Treat others with at least some respect/like you would like to be treated; the only 'rules' one should obey on the road are the traffic laws.
I mean... seriously; imagine being so stuck up and expect normal people/riders to know these assanine unwritten 'rules' or give some regal treatment to a group of bikers, as if they owned the road. Just pass them safely and with enough space in between and all's dandy, or... at least it should be.
That's why I don't like MCs; not because I think they're scary or intimidating or whatnot; it's because they feel the need to put so much friggin rules and protocol on something that should make you feel most free; aka riding a motorbike! And although I think organisations like the one Monkey's in, that ride for a good cause and all that are great I'd stil never do that, especially if it meant to clamp up me riding my bike with all that dictatorial nonsense. I can donate and alert to a good cause without it spoiling my favorite activity thank you very much.
Me personally - I never had any problems ( here in Central Europe ) with any biker group/MCs... then again, I don't go out of my way to interact with them in any way and I don't intend to... which is a bit of a shame, since I bet lot/most of them are nice and interesting people, but this "aura" of unwitten rules and 'authority' just really rubs me the wrong way
"I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.”
― Groucho Marx
NFN, I read through a bunch of comments...we are really WAY WAY WAY too much about "repect." 🙄 Sounding like overpaid professional athletes worried about "respect!" One doesn't need a crew to have self respect. Indeed, a crew can't give it to you. Still lots of talks about ass kicking...why is everyone so concerned with ass kicking? NFN...I HAVE ZERO respect for a dude who is tough with his boys...but alone would never say boo...seen that way too often.
It's like hyenas they will never attack alone. Threaten people with ass kicking for everything and say someone is always bigger and by bigger they mean more numbers but you don't have to big to defend yourself
In the early 90's I was tending bar at a place the local 1% MC chapter wanted to hang out at. The chapter president met with the owner and assured him they just wanted to hang out, no colors, no problems. Within a couple weeks they wanted to put someone at the door, wanted a % of each bartender's tips "because they were protecting us" and told a couple local bikers they had to prospect or GTFO of the bar. It took us 6 months, a few brutal fights and the murder of a coworker before we finally got them out for good. Combine that with the night a couple prospects from the same chapter approached a guy who walked in the bar wearing a Harley tshirt. They asked if he rode and when he said no they told him to take the shirt off or they would take it off themselves. He was fresh out of the Marine Corps with 2 tours in the Sandbox. He beat the crap out of both of them. That particular chapter seems to think respect is a one way street.
Respect begets respect. Disrespect begets pain in some cases. They call it the Golden Rule for a reason. 1% or not you do your thing and let them do their thing and we all get along.
And that's an issue. If I bash someone for some perceived slight, I'll (rightly) go to prison. However these people seem to see it as their right, and will be protected by their mates.
Yo PM... I appreciate the info u share on the channel. Good stuff Bro! However, I completely disagree with civilians or indies needing "permission" to pass on the roads. That's absurd! For starters, most civilians don't know this. Hell, I had no clue of this until I got a Harley a few years ago. My previous bike was a Busa & I never got "permission" to pass any group of motorcycles no matter how small or large that group was...ever!!! As members of an MC, "we" sign up to obey & follow rules & protocols. We should protect our civilians & indies because ultimately they are the ones that will one day potentially join our club. My Nation doesn't see it as "disrespectful" to pass without permission.
Agreed. It’s futile, ridiculous and only makes them look like the A-hole, not the guy that can and wants to go faster. Sandbox level pettiness.
It's not seen as them giving you permission because they are superior or anything like that, it's because they ride so close at speed that it's purely for the safety of the group that they know you are there and allow you to pass when safe for both you and them that's all
I agree, you're definitely much more on their radar when you're on a Harley because it's what they ride. I think it's more about safety precautions than petty "we own the road" behavior. Unfortunately most people mix up necessary safety procedures with shitty attitudes, and then we tend to focus on the attitude rather on what it was all about in the first place (safety protocol). However those that proceed to target you or chase you down afterwards are definitely a bunch of a-holes and it's self-defense territory at this point.
I used to work at a Harley dealer. So many times I watched club guys just take riding and theirselves entirely too seriously. I’ve seen clubs throw down at bike nights over silly stuff. I think it’s all the rules clubs and people simply not being able to learn stuff without asking questions. Then some guys take that too seriously and it’s just a whole thing. I personally wish EVERYONE who rides would chill out, riding doesn’t make you extra special cool and enough with the outfit which is silly. No need to always wear black tough clothes or dyna bro flannels. No all clubs are bad and I personally doubt I’ll ever have any bad run in with one because I’m not stupid enough to think I could kick 20 dudes asses at once like I’m sly Stallone. Also I couldn’t fight my way out of a wet paper bag.
wrote the 1st comment before i finished the video, now i can't speak for where you are club protocols change from club to club, town to town, county to county, state to state etc etc, but where i live we are on the border of 2 states one the territory of one major club and the other the territory of the rival of the other, each with their own Coalitions, and then we have a club claiming Coast to Coast and Independent of either coalition , and there are often border crossings, a member of my states coalition stopped to get gas and the major rival club from the state across the river was doing a ride thru, saw this guy getting gas pulled in and started trying to beat him up........Dozens of Civilians around watching. Next door to this Gas Station is a well know coffee shop and a huge hang out for civilian coffee drinking bikers, there are often on a friday or saturday night 20 to 30 bikes in the summer, but when ever there is a 1%er or pack of 1%ers riding by we get the Stare Down, and a few times they have come in to our parking lot to intimidate, and we're all civilian riders or AMA Riders and 1 or 2 99% club riders, but it's this public display that gives us ALL a bad name.
I personally have no need to join a club. Ive thought about it many times but have always decided against it. Im a Marine. First entered in 84. I got my structure and discipline from there. And since then ive decided that i just dont like rules. Nothin against those clubs. Always give them space and they give me mine. I just dont need it. I ride for charities sometimes. But, i dont have an organization i belong to. Because i like to do my own thing. Keep on keepin it real. And ride on!
Had my 1st interaction with MC's was many years ago when I was active duty military and worked a side gig running security at a large night club. I didn't ride in those days. Many club members were regulars, and considered it like it was their club. Never had any issues with them, and often, if someone else was getting out of hand where we had to "engage" with them, the MC members were always near by and ready to assist if needed. Have had respect for them ever since.
Yes criminals are great guys.
I don't necessarily have any issues with MC's as I simply choose not to take part in that lifestyle. I think that many people, especially non-affiliated bikers, dislike MC's because on the one hand members are all too ready to tell us how we don't rate as bikers, are not on their radars and will never understand "the life". On it's own merit that is fair.
On the other hand, as indicated in your videos and in some instances witness personally by myself over the years, the rest of us are expected to follow etiquette and rules we never agreed to when on the roads or otherwise in public. I'm talking about more than basic consideration for other riders. I am aware of most of them as I have been riding for some time but I'm always hearing about some obscure thing that can spark an altercation and in many cases they're just silly. You have described a few yourself.
For the most part I am certainly happy to go along to get along and I definitely understand the commitment that members make to their organizations but I think that maybe they should remember that none of us wanted to make those commitments for a reason.
Lastly, with the exception of patch sets designed for the purpose of emulating club colors which I understand is a problem and why, members seem far too worried about what some people have on their vests. Even if it it super dumb shit like that Lone Wolf Independent crap, as long as it doesn't have rockers or claim territory I see no reason to engage. I personally roll with a large backpatch but it isn't even biker related. It's a Motorhead patch so I am protected by Lemmy The Almighty!
The reason I point this out is that typically, MC's are no more on our radar than we are on theirs. While I'm happy to be respectful of organizations, especially yours (yes I know what it is and they are thick in my area), I think it's really safe to say that the only people that really care about MC's ARE MC's.
That said, The members I have interacted with from time to time have always really nice guys so I see no reason for hate, just understanding from both sides instead of just one.
Thanks for the videos. Keep it up. Maybe one day that chopper will be finished...
The main problem with a lot of people is they never been punched in the mouth
Boom, comment of the freaking year! I say this all the time. Ass kicking has gone down in schools and disrespect has gone up with young adults. Insanity
Because folks don't acknowledge a difference between "club" and "gang." You even have a video about "how to get your ass kicked..." IDK, who goes around looking for asses to kick, or tools around ready to "kick ass" on anyone who challenges their "manhood?" Not "clubs," "gangs." So long as we're hung up on ass kickin' we are more "gang" than "club," and folks don't like "gangs." That's why. 😉
Very well explained. They will say "we just demand respect". Do you know who also demands respect? Street gangs. They are all about respect. They won't mess you up unless you "disrespect them". Now, what does disrespect them mean? I means whatever they need it to mean, because it is not really about respect, it is about fear and submission.
Neither MC nor street gangs extend the same respect back that they demand towards them. "You are disrespecting me for wearing a leather vest with this and that!" I am sorry, sir, but why should I give a fuck? I find a lot of things disrespectful everyday and I do not go around threatening people into submission with violence. They behave like a bunch of thugs and then they wonder why people hate them. Well, people do not tend to like thugs.
Exactly…the 1%ers are not a club but rather a gang or criminal organization. Fear and intimidation the 1%ers dole out does not command respect it commands avoidance. As to why motorcycle enthusiasts allow 1%ers to set rules created in their mind, is beyond me. I just avoid them at all costs. I refuse to allow 1%ers to destroy my enjoyment of motorcycling.
I live in the PNW. I am a pastor who rides. Years ago i was asked to officiate the wedding of the president of the dominant MC here in the PNW. In my 29 years of pastoring i have never had a better experience officiating a wedding. They were kind, considerate, respectful, and left the church cleaner than when they found it. However, i only made it about an hour at the reception... there are some things a pastor should never witness🥴😵😵💫🤯. I explained to them i couldn't stay, they laughed, were gracious, lots of hugs, and i road home none the wiser. 😉 what came out of that was years of fruitful ministry to their families during great times, sad times, and every time in between. Im grateful for the experience.
First off I do not hate anyone. I have always been a do your own thing kind of guy. But I have run into the same problem with 1%er’s in two different states over the basically the same thing. I am a Army veteran who has my two units crests on my vests over the years. While in Arizona a few years back and was approached by 2 members of a local club that came up to me and questioned me about my patches. One from Korea (the 8th Army) can be seen on the officers club wall on the old MASH reruns. The other from Fort Polk (5th Mechanized infantry) is a red diamond. I was told I cant wear a diamond patch, then was told if I didn’t want any trouble I should change it to small pins and move them form the right side of my vest to the left. As I travel the USA and manage campgrounds and am always alone I decided to make the changes.
A years or so later at another rally, this time in Ohio on Lake Erie my girl and I were again approached by members of what is arguably the largest 1% club and was informed that the pins were also not acceptable either. I explained they were military unit crests but was told that didn’t matter. If someone wanted to take up the issue with it would be a big problem for me. They said I can have a patch made that says “fort Polk” but cant wear in diamond at all.
Historically these clubs all had their roots in the military it just seems disrespectfully of their own beginnings. I never even heard the term 1% in the 80’s when it was sewn in my MP armband. I have mentioned this on other UA-cam channels but always get the lame response of “well I’m not playing patch police” its funny because they all claim to want to educate and bridge the gaps in the community unless they get asked something controversial
All I can say is I disagree with the second group. If you changed to pins then you’ve done the right thing. It’s someone else’s problem If they mistake something for something else. You do you, and thank you for your service.
It is for me crazy that in a free country, a group of thugs can approach you and force you into submission under the thread of violence violating your first amendment right, and somehow we are the weird ones for hating those thugs. Amazing. What a twisted mentality.
@@JackDesperoThere's bad apples in every group, to "hate" the whole because of the actions of a very few...... that seems crazy to me. That seems like a twisted mentality. I'm not sure if you're saying you "hate" that particular club you had the issues with or if you're saying you regard anyone you see with a patch on their back as a "thug"......
I did the MC thing for years in 2 clubs. The first was a Family Club. They were a "T-shirt club. We had jackets and Shirts. No cuts and the Local 1% was very supportive . We rode almost every weekend, had a Clubhouse had parties. It was fun. Family, Work and Club was the order of importance. Then I moved a hour away. One of the local 1% support clubs wanted me to patch over to them. I took this as a huge honor. And it sucked. We never rode, didn't have a clubhouse and never even had church. I stuck it out for as long as I could. And when the President of the 1% club pulled me aside and told me I could leave with Honor(out good) I turned in my stuff and never looked back. All those guys I was in the club with got the boots a week later at a party. Apparently money was being misappropriated and to 1% Club knew I didn't have anything to do with it. I took that as a sign. From now on my philosophy is unless you're feeding, Fu€king me or funding me I have very little interest in doing to what another person tells me to do especially a man. I do miss riding with friends. I miss the camaraderie. I don't miss the politics
Last weekend a brother called me from a state north of me, he's from a state south. His mother in law was broken down in my area. Dropped everything to go pick up this lady. I just took her to a car rental place but would've driven her the 3+ hours one way to where she was headed no questions asked. That's where I'm at in a 99%... Don't let the powers that be tell you we're all bad folks...
Writing from the UK, this sounds like common sense to me. I’ve ridden for 30 years, mostly sports bike stuff including club racing etc but also touring and a few rallies. Never had an issue with clubs, to be honest never really noticed them. One proper encounter at motorway services outside Leicester we had a great chat about bikes in general and my Bandit on a cold January evening.
I think the reason is that here in the UK we have the attitude that if you are out on yr bike you deserve the respect of other folk out on their bikes. A few good manners go a long way.
Lawless Rebels = More written/unwritten rules than baseball. It's comical.
live and let live.
Being a biker is all about freedom and being an individual, as long as you fit the narrow definition of what theelocal MC thinks a biker should be.
@@soundchaser56 No, they only look at what a Club should be, not a what a biker should be. If you had a problem w/ a club, it’s because you showed them disrespect, either by trolling/taunting them purposefully or out of ignorance. Most clubs, even 1%ers from my limited experience, don’t just beat your ass for a minor offense, they school you up verbally though as long as you were a respectable human. The moment you become disrespectful is when you have problems because they don’t just bend over for your mistreatment like most other civilians will.
👮"What did YOU do?" 100% correct 😂
I was told this year at Sturgis (at Topless Tuesday) that I had to remove my randomly selected colored bandana because it was 'one of the local MC's colors'. Guy wouldn't leave me alone until I left because of a bandana.
I understand courtesy as human beings. Patched members earned their colors; where does this sense of entitlement come from? I can be a courteous person without having to respect strangers with an inflated sense of importance.
In conclusion, I am not jealous of someone who achieved something I am not interested in achieving.
It sounds like they were not asking you to leave they were asking you to remove your bandana, you were in their territory amongst them in a world that you don't understand. I think it's perfectly acceptable for them to ask you to remove it they probably asked politely at first, And then you chose to leave.
@@Satsui_No_Hado You know what I love about you pseudo religious types of people? You're always citing your own non-existent authority as the reason I should capitulate to your whims. I do not recognize said authority and therefore I am not beholden to it's arbitrary nature.
For a group of people always talking about 'freedom', you certainly do like beating that same freedom out of people not a part of your 'family'. Why would I want to 'understand' or even be a part of that nonsense?
Please don't lie and say that you would have immediately complied with that bullsh*t demand. I don't know these people, I don't respect these people, and they certainly don't have any authority over me to expect my compliance.
Most of all, I just want to be left alone. And I'm not the one looking for a fight over my attire; that would be MC members. And I know, 'it's not allllllllll of them'. But it's enough to make the rest look bad. You demand respect and don't even offer basic courtesy in return. Claim 'territory' and colors of the rainbow, threaten beatings on people who don't immediately start sucking your d*ck, and mostly are just so entitled that every little itty-bitty thing is seen as 'disrespect'.
Grow up.
You hit the head of the nail with both your comments. You are more likely to be hassled than respected by a 1%er. They demand your respect and rarely grant it to anyone outside of their Brotherhood. Just saying. Now if your not a 1%er group you may be just fine with mutual respect. But where I come most clubs are full on 1%er clubs.
There was a thing in the 90’s here in uk that people were told not to paint up their custom bikes in red and white without seeking permission from the local HA chapter.
My objection ( apart from its not anyone’s business but mine what colour my bike is) is that non bikers think EVERYONE on a bike is a 1%er and those who know won’t make the mistake in the first place, it’ll be obvious to them.
Anyway great channel and more power to you in your aims. 👍🇬🇧
@@Satsui_No_Hado Sorry, did I miss the part in which MCs got lawful enforcerment powers?
Why on any free nation would any person have the right to tell other to take out a piece of clothing because that colour "belongs to them".
That is insane, and the fact that you somehow believe in that BS is quite concerning.
I had one negative experience with a 1% MC associate of some sort. I was riding with 3 of my buddies on our old British bikes. We walked into an otherwise empty bar and there were 3 full patched members of a well known 1% MC sitting at a table and a fourth that wasn't fully patched that I could see. I don't know for certain what his place was. We sat down at the bar and ordered a beer each and the fourth man, who was a big muscle bound guy, came up and hovered behind us with his arms crossed and never spoke. It was a purposely an uncomfortable situation. We pounded down our beers and went outside, the fourth man followed us belligerently close out and stood at the door with his arms crossed staring at us while we fired up the bikes and moved on down the rode. Don't know what his problem was but what an asshole. Anyway, I've met and engaged with many MC members before and since and never had another experience like that.
Maybe he didn't like your Wild Hogs patches.
@@darrylchase3688 Yeah, that must have been it...thanks for the chuckle...I'll switch over to one of your Sons of Anarchy patches instead and see how that goes...
My hubby and I love the content of your videos...thank you so much for sharing with us.
First off much respect to your club and you for your to for a very noble cause. I treat people like I want to be treated. Works for me. I’m not a clubber but everybody can make their own choices in life. Or should. More power to them. Been riding 50 yrs plus. Ride mostly with people I’ve known a while and ride the same as me. As safe as possible. This is just me but if you somebody walks up to a club and starts the bad mouthing and being aggressive your looking for trouble then and more than likely gonna find it. Happy thanksgiving to you and yours.
Because I am a free man, I do whatever I want. I answer to myself. I'm nobody's beer grabbing biotch prospect. I ride with all my friends and even strangers. I will not be at anybody's beckon call. I don't need a group of men telling me what to do to make me feel like a man. I live by my rules and the golden rule. I don't have to take off my gloves or my shades to respect someone by shaking their hands. Don't be weak minded, everyone is just as important as everyone else.
RIP Scooter Sandoval
Indian Bill, agreed. Little guy will be missed.
I want thank you and all the members for the work you do with the kids
As a member of the same organization as you I'm amazed at how some people treat me when wearing my cut. Both good and bad. I've experienced everything from having my meal paid for while having dinner with my wife to hearing a table of people ask to be moved to a different table away from me.
Third member here out of Texas
You do realize that there have been shoot outs between people wearing "cuts" or "colors" in restaurants right? So its not crazy that people may not want to sit next to someone that could get them caught in some cross fire. Criminals wear "cuts/colors" so when regular people see someone with a vest and patches on they automatically think they are criminals. If you look, walk, talk and act like a bear people are going to think you are a bear. If you dress like a fire fighter or a soldier people will think your a fire fighter or a soldier...I'm not telling you not to but if you don't want to be seen as a criminal don't dress like one and if you do wear your "cut/colors" don't get mad at people for thinking you are a criminal... that's cause common since...
I know a lot of people who hate MCs. I know far more people (maybe 10:1) who hate MCs vs people who like them. I think it boils down to two things:
1) The rebel aspect is not that desirable anymore with young people
2) People don't want to treat other people differently or give special consideration to someone only because they are in an MC.
I don't treat any rider differently, but since I always treat people with the same courtesy/respect that MCs want; I'm good with everyone. To each his/her own is my motto.
I figure at least some of it comes from the media, movies and such. And some is just the desire to be the toughest guy or gal in the room.
Not a part of the culture, and have no desire to be, but have nothing against them either.
The best thing an abused 10 year old told his 40 year old father: "Dad, I'm not always gonna be only 10 years old, and you're not always gonna be only 40 years old, tread lightly!"
I was 38 the last time my mother came at me, fists flying. I just held her down 😂
I hear words like family, respect, colors, discipline, and a attitude towards others that don't follow the RULES and the more I think it sounds like organized crime and I ride so imagine what non riders think??
Just wanna let you know I very much enjoy your videos. I am not part of any MC, RC or Organization but I do have many friends who are with an MC, RC Or Organization. I do ride with my Son and My Brother-In Laws. We have been riding together for a long time. I have met some of the greatest people through riding whether being with a club or not. Much respect to you and your organization for what you do.
"Follow our rules even if you don't know them. Or you'll get jumped or followed home!"
"Why don't people like us?"
Most orgs don't operate like that. Stop shoving everyone into the same pile.
@@ProfessionalMonkey If you look, walk, talk and act like a bear people are going to think you are a bear. If you dress like a fire fighter or a soldier people will think your a fire fighter or a soldier...I'm not telling you not to but if you don't want to be seen as a criminal don't dress like one and if you do wear your "cut/colors" don't get mad at people for thinking you are a criminal... that's cause common since... Stop acting like a woke college kid crying cause someone hurt your feelings. Real men don't act or think like that. you know who does people with mental and self control issues...
Old farmer here I like bikers I have encountered several clubs in my life. I only represent what I am. A head injury left me from a young age with balance problem.and I know I would be really sorry if I tried to ride but I raise cattle and have had a couple of good horses. You strike me as friendly.upfront guys.I like machinery so enjoy looking at the bikes talking carbs and cams.Heck I even have a few pigs for sale once in a while and who does not like a pig roast lol.
The problem is the few that make the masses look bad. When the negative ones who feel the need to tell you their rules apply to everyone. Member or not.
Or the big issues is that of wearing a cut. Telling people what they can and can't wear or their will be consequences is very much schoolyard bullying. I don't care either way is I prefer useful gear but it still seems childish.
Years ago my uncle ran a motel on the beach in Daytona he said the bikers during bike week cause them no trouble did not destroy their rooms or the content. But the kids on spring break was a different story.
Just stumbled on to your videos... what a great surprise. Its great to hear someone just talk down to earth laugh and joke about issues and subjects that you cover. I'm 68 been riding off and on since i was 14 when i got my first bike , a honda 90 street scrambler. There is no better feeling than that knees in the breeze sensation when you just twist the throttle and go. You have brought a perspective to the riders point of view that is just great . Keep up the great info filled videos and stay safe.
Bro it was really hard to listen to this with that constant rain sound and made me want to go to the bathroom so much lol
I also want to edit this comment I also want to say your content is top-notch very informative very professional gives great insight to a world many of us are not part of but find fascinating so thank you for that 👊
So if a car passes, it's just traffic. If a fellow motorsicklist passes, it's viewed as disrespect or threatening and requires confrontation? You gotta remember, the public in general and even other motorcyclists don't know there is some secret club rule book. When they pass slower moving traffic, they don't expect it's going to cause a big dramatic scene. That doesn't build admiration and respect. It creates fear and avoidance.
And no, that hasn't happened to me. In fact, I rarely see guys in patches aside from standing around at events. But I have seen enough vids of packs going bonkers on other riders. The point is intimidation. I find it hard to believe that a motorcycle going by causes them such distress. Young men tend to behave peculiarly in groups. If one of them were riding alone, it's highly unlikely they'd swing a whip at a passing rider. Put the same guy in a pack and suddenly he's in a life or death situation to protect his friends.
I don't hate anyone, but I don't gravitate toward cliques of young men who feel the need to constantly prove themselves either. Just listen to your own vids. Always about obeying rules, like what to wear, or risk getting "your eyes dotted."
100%... you found the words I wanted to type.
i am far from hating on MC's. I just don't care about them. The MO you are part of is awesome and i explicitly support their mission (financially when i can).
What gets me is that you think that a not organized or affilitated rider HAS to know and adhere to the rules and regulations / protocols that are applicable to MC's / MO's.
If i see a group of riders riding down the road, i wave. if i approach them in my lane, and they are slow, i ride up and past, waving. i do not know their rules, they are not mine. Protocol dictates ... not to me, sir. i do not know their self implied rules.
My protocol is the one that is based on good human sense and the rules of the society which is in such a scenario the traffic laws.. Why should i follow rules i do not know? that just does not make sense. if clubs practice their codes, morals, discipline, protocols amongst each other, fine by me, all power to them.
Judging me based on those protocols is just wrong, sorry sir.
Do clubs scare the shit out of me? absolutely. because i don't know their rules and i do not want to. because they choose to look dangerous and aggressive - a smile goes a long way. why is that so difficult to understand.
the pink smack trash talk you issued there, is just bottom shelf and really below your standards.
Ride safe 🤙
I think it's about culture. One that has been around long before you and I, and that's where basic respect comes from. No one expects someone off the street to understand these protocols, but to try and get them and live by them is to try and actually be a part of this culture. And the power ranger jokes aren't below me, it's funny, just like all the anti Harley rider stuff I also laugh at.
@@ProfessionalMonkey TS, i respect your thoughts.
To me, respect is one of the core fundamentals that are taught by parents (hopefully) to their children.
From there going forward we decide what we respect. Some people admittingly make rather poor choice in that category but that is their problem.
I respect the culture of MC's but don't want to be a part of it or obtain any kind of knowledge. Again, if it helps an individual to find the sense of life for themselves in being part of an MC, dirty thumbs up. I can ride my bike perfectly having a blast w/o being a part of 'this culture'. And you are not just making videos for MC / MO members, correct?
Honor, respect, love and all that good stuff is not occupied by MC's, only. Bought the flag, got it, started to think about what it actually might mean, left it in the white bag it came in, on the shelf in the garage. I'll pass it on to someone who is looking for help with being reminded about the core values of human interaction.
The MO you are part of is a different story as it has a mission i can identify with and a setup that excludes violence or any type of criminal activities. And no, not all MC's are involved in illegal activities.
As for the Power Rangers jokes, do as you think required, not judging. I think that on the one hand those type of jokes lead to exclusion (us vs them) and exclusion is leading to confrontation and on the other hand a Harley is a 'thing' while the Power Rangers are humans ... just my .02$.
Ride safe 🤙 Happy Thanksgiving.
One thing I want to make clear. I have no problem with most MC's . In fact they have great people in them . First I don't understand why good Men and veterans would want to be associated with and look like 1% gangs. The mc's dress and wear patches and pattern themselves after gangs of the 1% criminals! They show respect and deference to them like they earned it . I don't think its true respect I think it's fear and that's sad. The other thing that drives me nuts is they say respect the 1% clubs but the same people would show no respect to the Bloods and Crips and they are no different. Many mc's are good but how would the average non motorcycle person know if they copy the 1 % gangs.
Think of it this way if you copied attire of the Crips or the Bloods but your a great group how would people know ?
1% clubs are clubs not gangs, we find that term disrespectful, we are not criminals either just because we wear a 1% diamond
@@robertrenfroe9182 there you go again with the disrespectful! NOONE owes you respect you earn it. If you are a 1% and condone violence and intimidation of people who don't follow your rules then you are a gang. No man or club in the United States has the right to beat, threaten people for wearing a vest that has both an upper and lower rocker. If I live in Florida I have every right to put what ever I want on my jacket. I don't have to ask permission to pass your group if it's safe to do so. I should not be worried about you attacking me.
@@chrisman1985 do yourself a favor and stay in your lane with your shortsighted prejudice views believing someone is something they are not. You do as you please with blissful ignorance.
@@robertrenfroe9182 I imagine your one of the costume riders who slober over the 1% clubs. Dressing up on your Harley wearing all the makeup to look hard! How about you stay on your rideable couch. 🛋
I ride with a bigger, patched RC that does a lot of work for kids too, and I've been approached at gas stations and bars more than a few times by MC members...always to ask where I'm from (we use chapter numbers, not location names) or if I know their buddy who rides with one of our chapters, or the single most common one - to see if I can help get some more bikes to whatever their next upcoming charity event is. I'm sure if I was stand-offish I could find some trouble, but that's true in a grocery store as much as it is on the back of a bike. I've always been looked in the eye and treated with respect, even with a patch that's lower on the hierarchy...just one man's experience though.
Story time:
I was riding a 2003 Kawasaki Vulcan 750 when my front brakes decided to show me they were there by completely locking up at 70mph. Back tire came off the ground and I actually bounced on the front tire a few times. As I was wrestling it to the side of the road, a group of about 20 riders on mixed bikes wearing cuts went passed me, without stopping. I did not have tools on me at the time, as I normally ride my '78 Sportster XL1000, or my 2000 Wide Glide. About 5 minutes after I got it to the side of the road, a larger group road by all on Harleys. At around the half hour mark, 2 guys on V-Stars stopped and helped me out. Opened the bleeder and brake fluid shot almost 15 feet. Luckily, Door County Wisconsin has a shitton of riders during tourist season.
I have had the privilege to meet some of the best people I know by supporting events organized by clubs to help others. As a rider I have seen times when loud pipes, aggressive riding and burnouts in rush hour traffic by individuals with a club patch on their back could give non riding people an opinion about clubs in general.
Here's the thing; I started watching your channel not long after you started. You seem like a cool guy (from what I can tell via what you post) I like your humor and you do a great job with the videos. I unsubscribed a while ago because I got tired of all the "club etiquette" stuff. I just resubscribed because I am planning my first trip to Sturgis and I found your Sturgis trip and tips videos informative.
As far as the hating on clubs go, I agree with the guys who are leaving comments about respect earned and regular riders not knowing the "rules". Watching all these videos about club rules and etiquette gets tiring. Most people really don't care to know and honestly the "rules" are just common sense decency. Don't act like a dick to people. Don't be rude. Don't be a "tough guy". Just ride your motorcycle and be nice.
Where I live in NE Ohio there is a major 1% club presence. I frequently see them out on the roads. I give them the 2 finger "biker" wave, as I do to EVERY bike I encounter. I've never asked permission to pass them. I've never had a problem with them. I don't try to represent myself as anything other than a guy on a motorcycle. I don't wear a "cut" I don't wear HD gear. It's plain as day that I am a "civilian" and they treat me as such.
The best advice you give is don't go looking for trouble and you won't find it. That goes for dressing in a manner that makes it look like you are trying to be a "tough guy".
Yep. Biker cosplay is just stupid. Also, I actually don't do much protocol stuff. My stuff is mainly bikes and rallies. I only do anything related to that world when I have something I think might actually be interesting.
I read it somewhere:
3 biggest 'drives' in humanity --
1. Survival
2.Reproduction
3.Telling somebody else their business.
Comes from a deep fear of "other". Stranger=danger kinda shit.
I'm near Ocean City, Maryland. The first year we had bike week many of my clients were worried about all the "crime" the bikers would be bringing with them. I jokingly ask a few if they worked on their vacation. Nope, the bikers were going to be on vacation too and would be leaving all their "criming" at home.
After that first bike week the tunes all changed. There wasn't a bunch of violence and not a bunch of arrests. What happened was money got spent. The locals soon started calling it the thirteenth month. My only complaint about bike week was when the local police chief shut down the burnout pit. There went one of my favorite events, dammit.
Right, face still hurts, exactly. Life lessons here.
Ha ha TJ, good speech Sir, Well said. ... I grew up in Van BC around Bikers.... and totally know the experience of a patched rider leaning over the back of his booth and grabbing my shoulder to get a light or even bum a smoke.... No Big. Fast forward 30 yrs, the smoke part ain't the issue anymore.... it's "Bro, watch my stuff,.... back in a bit". So you keep an eye on his / her gear or what ever..... Point being ... If they know you ride.... "Protocol is.... watch my 6"..... Done deal.... and the member remembers you, A deed done for them most times will not go unnoticed...even by the RC.
Not sure why Cagers want to treat MC's as the Bane of Society..... Usually, I just sluff that off and say to myself ," If You Don't Ride.... You Don't Know"... and get on with better things.
Stay Safe
First off, well done video. Why do the public hate clubs? This comes from the danger and violence inherent in the 1% lifestyle. You have made videos that talk about how not to get beat up. Why do you need to ask permission from the 1% club? Because the threat of violence is implied if you don’t. If I want to start a fraternal organization that doesn’t ride motorcycles I don’t need to ask the masons, Kiwanis or the lions because no one from there is going to beat my ass.
Now why do people hate all the other clubs (including yours apparently)? Same reason people kill milk snakes or corn snakes. Because the general public can’t tell them apart. 1%ers have an image. Many copy that image including from pictures I’ve seen, your organization (I get there are differences but the similarities are there). When you look like dangerous folks people are going to assume you are.
The entire problem with the club scene is the implied violence. Then we excuse the behavior and tell everyone ‘I met this 1% guy and he was really cool, so they must all be good.’ Until we demand separation from them we will all be lumped in together.
Go to the blessing in Baldwin and every walk of life is there and everyone for the most part just has a great time
As an outsider looking in, my experience with bikers goes both ways. I used to drink at a bar that was frequented by a big 1% club. Those dudes were cool as shit with me and my Marines, always buying us beers and cheering us on when we got into bar fights. Even covered us with the cops a few times for fights that got out of hand. I’ve also ran into dudes across America that have tried to use their club to intimidate people. I don’t like bullies. If you’re really tough you go after guys tougher than you, not weaker than you. I wouldn’t look for a fight with a woman or a child to prove I’m tough, I look for a bigger badder Marine if I want to prove I’m a bad ass.
Before anyone thinks I’m name dropping, let me be clear, we were cool with these dudes, but we weren’t getting invited to the club house or anything like that. My brothers are Marines their brothers are their club. But I think it’s safe to say we were all pretty friendly. One dude, he was a prospect back then, even offered to teach me how to ride street bikes, I’d only ever rode dirt bikes before that. Not going to lie was to nervous to do it, I was worried I’d mess up his bike and no way a Marine can afford to replace that. “If you ride, you’re going to drop your bike” has been stuck in my head since I was little kid and I have no idea where it came from.
Agreed. I had my flashers on late one evening on I-5 (PNW) and a local MC stopped to check to see if I was good and offered to help. Greatly appreciated! Much love to that individual.
Thanks for sharing!
I am a retired Deputy Sheriff from Wisconsin. I have dealt with both large and small club members. I never had any problem with the MC. I had more trouble with little township officers. I would run the John Wayne’s off, and stood around andBS’d with club members. Mainly the Sgt At Arms. Great show. I enjoy your attitude. Later
For me it depends on the club I guess. I've never heard of any bad coming from your club. They were literally created specifically to bring good and protection to those that needed it. However, last summer I was ran off the road by a club member who was driving a car. He pushed my into the dirt going 60mph. No idea how I didn't wreck. All so he could look at my vest. My one patch that doesn't have any club colors on it. I don't give a crap what club you're in, you don't have the right to cause a crash. Your stupid nazi rules are not legislation. You did not buy by vest. You do not get to tell me what I can and can not wear. I purposely don't wear colors because I don't want anything to do with them. My vest keeps my shirt down so it doesn't fly up around my neck and let my belly hang out while I'm driving down the freeway. If you're club keeps their rules to them selves and doesn't try to imposed them on me, I'm cool with that. But if you think you're some kind of special law and you think you can impose your made up dumb a$$ rules on every person out there that owns a motorcycle, well, you can go f**k your self
Damn, I hate that that happened to you!!!
This is it in a nutshell. MCs think their rules apply to everyone. Heaven forbid you wear a patch they don't like, or talk to someone without following their etiquette rules, or do anything else THEY see as disrespectful. You'll get threatened, bullied by a grouo, or even attacked without even knowing why. It's BS. There's a thing in this country called a Constitution. MC rules don't supercede our rights. It's time they learned that.
How would you know it was a club member if he was in a car...? Not being smart ass just honestly curious... most people can barely see faces in cars while driving down the road let alone when being ran off the road.. the fact he was sitting in a car would hide his back.. and your not to wear your cut in a car.. especially at 60mph....
Thank you for your time and energy
Hold on...so if I want to start an MC I have to grovel to some "enforcer group?" 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Last I checked I lived in a free country, FThat....or else what??? We back to ass kicking again?(Sounds like a gang to me) Good grief...Can I just ride please????🙄
Sure! You can just ride as much as you want. You can wear a cut. Have patches etc. Just, don't put on a 3 piece patch, MC, RC, or MO, on the vest. As a member of a club, we have a lot of protocol as a club, things we have to do to stay positive in the eye of the general public. If you throw on a patch and go ride, you make us look bad, and that's the problem. He makes a great video about this. I'd suggest you go watch it.
@@ColbyMasonMusic He said in another video that if you wear a patch that clearly states that you are not a part of any MC (lone wolf stuff in a three piece patch) you may get your ass kicked because "it is disrespectful". How does that fit into your argument? You are not impersonating anyone, you do not have the name of any MC nor their symbol nor are you trying actively to deceive anyone. And yet since it is "disrespectful", you might get "your legs broken" like he said in another video.
Who gave you the right to basically patent and register 3 piece patches? What a bunch of coward snowflakes, going in numbers against an individual who is riding their ride without interfering with you in anyway, but you got "offended".
Give me a break. Just admit that it is a thugh mentality group and save us from the BS of the justification. Y'all just talk like the people in street gangs that I have known in my neighborhood: All about respect, respect, but in reality they are just thugs.
@@ColbyMasonMusic "If you throw on a patch and go ride, you make us look bad" If the guy minds his own business and doesn't fuck with anyone, how does he make you look bad?
@@soundchaser56 because most people don't understand protocol. When you fly a patch, you're expected to follow club protocol. How are you supposed to follow a protocol you don't know or understand? Then, if it's someone who wants to act like an ass on their bike, it makes anyone who sees that behavior believe anyone in a club acts like that.
As i posted, if the guy minds his own business and doesn't fuck with anyone who is he making look bad? Did you read my post above. Our one local 1% club does a great job of making all bikers look bad.
Well if you disrespect some one (it doesnt have to be mc) you get disrespected treatment, this is how the world goes, if you ask for trouble you will be served trouble,. The key is be respectfull to all. Respect and salude from other side of the world
This is a very easy topic... there's bad apples in every group and they give a bad name or reputation to others! As a fellow rider I'm staying neutral in this but I've personally eye witnessed numerous idiots in clubs provoke fights, then when someone gets mad and confronts the individual they don't have to deal with just 1 but all of them, even tho there bro is the 1 that started it... any group has bad apples i mean look at police in the past few years, not all of them are bad. Unfortunately people in general persieve these types of thing's and they assume all are that way! I can tell you not all bikers are bad but most are good people tooken the wrong way.
l give respect and almost always get it back x10 with ANY m/c, r/c, m/o, WTF ever. we all need to be mindful of one another, and no, l don't claim, or "pose". EVERYBODY ride safe!!
Hi. A general public here Mr Monkey Sir.
Im a Motorcycle Club absolute Fan. Love it on any platform, format, however you guys can come at us with the motorcycles... Any make or midel.
I think you guys are really awesome.
Anti MC'ers are sooo
TE PITTS! with nothin better to do but sit on their aaasss's...gripe n judge.
Hell life must be trashy boring for them.
I aint missing out on the sight, thrill., or the sound....
STIFF them!!!.
Seriously' this is the most honest, down to earth platform Sir. Hope you never change.
Keepin It Real!
Appreciate you, Mr & Mrs Monkey...
fFom NZ.
Most People Just do not have any respect anyone . I hve known several Club members and a few of them were 1%'s and they came to my fathers Funeral And had their colors on ,and they paid their respects to my mother and me . and I had an Uncle tell me he didn't want them there they did not belong . and I told him they are my friends . and if you want to tell them they have to leave I will get them all together and you can explain to them why they should leave . and he backed right down . I told my brothers and sisters that came how much it meant to me and to my mother to have them there to pay their respect to my mom and me . I guess I am running on to much here but you really hit a nerve with me . and thank you for trying to explain this to some of these Idjits . God bless and stay safe out there .
Living in the UK we don’t have many MC’s or MCC’s you have to go out of your way to get involved with them. The only problem I have is when they do dumb shit (see riding in the Ozarks shooting )which makes life more difficult for the rest of us. We had one 1% club shoot a member of another 1% club and the police got more interested in other biker /motorcycle events meets .They even set up a road block and stopped the Scott owners club on a ride out . I can relate to the respect I just wish they didn’t do the stupid stuff.
Waiting to ass “protocol” isn’t manners at all. I’ve watched rides get kick, flashlight’s swung at them, and ran off the road for not “getting permission” to pass in a free country. I understand what you are saying, but you have to see how many clubs treat riders that don’t do club functions or rules.
I have been in an RA with all the rules and positions etc... and I discovered I really did not like riding in a group because you end up with riders of varying abilities and I just want to run my own pace, I've been riding for 50 years and I know I'm far from perfect but lord have mercy. I'm a disabled veteran and my bullshit tolerance is pretty low. You asked for an interaction gone bad, in the local area there is a chapter of one of the largest most famous MC's and I've met several members all good but they have one member who is always starting shit with people, he goes out of his way to disrespect people now I don't think bad of that MC because this guys an idiot but I have heard several people talk about the club and when they say something bad that one member is always the one they mention. The point I'm making is 1 oh shit will wipe out 25 attaboys every time.
Very good point. I am also not a fan of pack rides, but it's necessary for what we do. Unfortunately a lot of clubs have "that guy." They are always going to choose a brother over anyone else so I always avoid that one guy that seems to hate everyone.
I have been in traffic and they did exactly what you said after I payed my respects and not passed them. Saw them at Black Hammock a Florida style restaurant, they were relaxed as they had their beers. One passed me on the highway and gave me the motorcycle 2 finger salute as he passed by. It's all about the respect.
Respect for outlaws who sell meth to kids
Much respect for the work your organization does for the kids. I am part of an anti bullying motorcycle organization up in Alberta Canada. It is a great feeling to help the children
What I love about PMs channel is that its NOT Political...
Refreshing!!
In 2019, 7 Brothers (and sisters) of the Jarheads MC were killed in an accident in Randolph NH... (Im not, nor have I ever been a Member of any MC)
At the time I was in the hospital with an infection in my leg... from my hospital bed, I made a Facebook post letting those I knew and were friends with at the time that I felt a need to pay my respects and wanted to get a Ride together to do exactly that.
We worked out a plan with the State of NH to help us accommodate that..
On July 6th, 2019, we and over 4000 riders rode to pay our Respects and doing so, I became antiquated with The Club and their Members.
I have the UPMOST respect for not only our Military but for the MC world as a result of my exposure to their world at that time.
It was a memory that I will never forget.
Absolutely. Great stuff to have organized that ride. As far as politics, no way. I avoid it like the plague. We all have opinions, but they don’t need to be brought into everything. Politics don’t fit into what bikes and BS, so no reason to ever talk about it, ya know?
Reminds me of the Revenge of the Nerds scene where Ogar keeps peeing and the rest of the guys keeps looking back. lol
Hi Monkey I could be all wrong about this but here goes. The general public see's motor cycle groups as trouble makers because of the news media tv shows and movies. I love to ride and have for many years. I like your show and glad I found it. I have never had any issues with clubs or there members.
These generally uneducated general public will typically see any group of motorcycle riders as outlaws no matter what patch they put on there back. The won't call them Clubs, typically they will refer to them as Gangs.
I'm a police officer & I like bikes & I like to ride. I've been around lots of MCs. 1% & not 1% and everyone has always been cool to me. I've never had any trouble. Just be cool to people and they'll be cool to you. People generally ride bikes to have a good time, not to cause trouble.
Some MCs can be a little over the top though. I was at my buddy's motorcycle shop in south Florida and a bunch of bikers (I won't say who) approached my buddies and I and started giving me shit about my Black Label Society shirt I had on, I had to explain to them BLS is a band and I wasn't riding or even had a bike at that time, was just hanging with friends and happen to be around motorcycles with a shirt on that had something that resembled a 3 piece logo on it. They weren't the nicest of fellas lol
I was in a bar with some brothers and some dudes started some shit. When the cops came, they ran and we went back into the bar. We wouldn't have been able to get past the cops on our bikes, only two ways in and out. The cops came in to talk to us, they knew we were involved. They said that they knew we didn't start it because we were still there. That was a fun night.
I belong to VFW Riders organization. When I joined, I did my research on the protocol in dealing with MC's. There are 5 in my area. Many times we have been on runs, events, etc. It's been my experience if you just talk to them normally there are no issues.
I think you might want to consider that most people these days don't pay much or even any attention to motorcycle riders and their clubs, much less have the strong feelings toward them that you seem to believe they have, IMHO...not like it was many years ago?
Now that I think about it I’d have to agree. I think we spend way more time thinking about this than any non rider does.
Add to your reason why Men join MCs, as a Vet the world after serving often doesn’t make sense, MCs with like minded men helps make things right.
Very well put.
I am in one of the top 10 Women's RC, we are an all womens rc. we have become national now. But for us you have to have 1000 miles under your belt & your mc license to join. Then you have to be a part of the club for a year- and ride 1000 miles and meet all expectations in order to get your back patch. If you don't meet those expectations in that year, you are put on probation for 1 year and you have to meet that years expectations and the next years expectations to get off probation and your patch.. we do mostly charity runs,poker runs, smaller rallys,rally, a scholarship fund.
That's awesome Kayla. I respect your RC for having standards and enforcing them. Without basic respect and dedication what are people even doing, right?
Some of my best friends are members of a club and I really respect there reasons for joining, I was in the Army for 22 years and I have Brothers and Sisters in the military and a club is no different in my oppinion, so rock on !
I never joined a MC in 40 years of riding for 2 reeasons only..... drama and priority. My career in music and my family take top priority. I have dozens of club friends and played countless clubhouse parties and none of which I would have wanted my wife to attend.
I have nothing against motorcycle clubs . I'm just not a good fit.A square peg in a round hole.Just a independent rider who just likes to ride.
First, dig your vids! 👍 Great info and funny as hell!
Show respect, receive respect. In other words, don't start nothing, won't be nothing. 🍻
American Legion Riders have had bad comments until these folks are told what we ride for
As we say, they hate us cause they ain't us
It's not that people hate MCs. It's the elitist issue. I've been riding for most of my adult life. I've been around the culture for a long time. I've met really great guys and I've met scumbags. I have no issues with a group of people who enjoy riding together and living life like a family and taking pride in that and following tradition. But you cant expect everyone else to follow "your" traditions. That's the entire point of the culture, the rebel, the outlaw, the band of brothers the f u attitude, the freedom. That's what it should be about.
Until you offend me and I go all snowflake.
"Don't pass my group until I allow you to" really if I'm on the highway cruising and anyone is moving slower then me, I'm gonna pass them, cager or biker. Keep right except to pass. It's not a sign of disrespect maybe I just got places to be.
If me and my closest friends and family wanna ride together and show our pride and comradery that's all well and good so long as we follow your rules and label ourselves with the appropriate title "MC, RC, RG, MO" and only wear matching t-shirts. Can't wear a vest with our groups name, a logo and where we are from? That offends you? MCs don't realize how ridiculous it is for a group of friends to have to ask a group of strangers for permission to call themselves a group and wear matching vests. If you don't approve of my patches youre gonna at minimum lecture me, and at worst literally steal my vest and beat me up. This is why us bikers have a bad reputation.
I'm not trying to bash the culture man. Most of the people I meet are wonderful but c'mon man. Sometimes you gotta take a step back and look at yourself through everyone else's eyes. And this is where someone is gonna say "f u I don't care what you think" and you would be correct. You shouldn't care, nor should the group of riders that didn't bother to ask your permission to wear a 3 piece patch.
Life is to short to get butt hurt over a patch or a brand of motorbike. We are all on the same team. I graduated high school 22 years ago man we don't need the dick swinging and the threats of an "ass kicking" if your ego gets bruised by the patch someone where's on a vest.
I've said this to my friends and I'll say it here, if you are so easily offended, there's a safe space you can go park your bike in while you cry into your Budweiser.
So why do people hate MCs? They don't, they hate egotistical, elitist dick bags. Don't be a dick bag.
11 yrs ago i went to the red river rally and didn't have an issue with any 1%rs. Talked tp a few banditos about their bikes, even had a sos member as a neighbor. Most of them are the nicest guys, as long as you dont mess with them or talk shit, you'll be fine.
Down here in Brazil is quite the same. I had a patch back in the day, my experience was not good, but i do not prejudice anyone who wants to follow that path. Its good for a lot of people. I will not enforce my personal experience in it
Perfect way to put it.
I think that a lot of the animosity towards motorcycle organizations is just from the media. Movies, TV shows news broadcast. Shines them in a negative light for the most part. Therefore, people are intimidated by them. And I think a little bit that is jealousy as well.
Some Riding Clubs have the same protocol, hierarchy, and similar rules and discipline to MC's and MO's. I actually am an SA for an RC currently that goes by it. We had to go through the same thing as starting an MC. Getting a blessing from the dominant 1% club locally. We were actually thrown a patch party, as an RC, by our local dominant 1% club. RC's are coming and up starting to receive some respect in the community as well.
1) Joe Public doesn't know the difference between the Pink Pony Sunday Motorcycle Riding Group and a 1% club . anybody with a motorcycle and a patch on their back is the same thing in their eyes .
2) the media has spun MCs as criminal organizations for so long , mostly based on info from the police , that the public thinks of all patch wearers as criminals . but it's always seemed to me that if you're going to start a criminal organization , doing it by putting your group's name on the back of your jacket and riding around on loud motorcycles isn't the smartest way to go about it .
3) do you really think those guys making the tough guy comments actually own motorcycles ? even pink ones ? reminds me of bulletin boards back before the internet , every guy who wanted to disagree with somebody said he was 6'2" and a karate expert and he was gonna find out where you lived and come beat the crap out of you .
I’ve been riding on and off for over 30 yrs, in my experience, when the holidays come around, it doesn’t matter, 1%, 99%, they all come out for charity rides, and to help the less fortunate, that’s what makes all bikers different and have a commonality, and makes all, well the ones with some sense, brothers and sisters, to a point no disrespect to clubs, in the time of need for the people in need. Kind of like if you see a bike on the side of the rode, you stop, doesn’t matter, crotch rocket, cruiser, white, black, pink, or purple, you stop. Just be a better person, the world needs more bikers
Why do people dislike clubs? I think you answered you own question in this video and in many others you have put up. It's your attitude, it's your behavior. Why do so many so-called motorcycle "clubs", organizations, groups, etc. model their behavior and appearance after the well known 1% clubs? Perhaps it's because that's what the clubs wish they could be. It certainly sounds that way based on your own videos. People don't like clubs because the clubs act like they want to be 1%-ers. What makes 20 guys think the general public owes them respect just because they bought the same motorcycle and they all wear the same costume? I can think of no other such club membership that causes its members to think that way.
At its core, the majority of this "motorcycle club" business is just LARPing. These clubs remind me of the guys playing airsoft games pretending they are in the military, the difference is the moto-clubs have Harleys and patches, and _Rules_ (lots of Rules), instead of pellet guns and battle rattle. Just because you and your moto-LARPing buddies are out for a Sunday putt doesn't mean that other motorists need your permission to pass your Shriner parade. The act of overtaking a group of lollygagging bikes has nothing to do with disrespect.
I think specifically in Canada where I live - the animosity comes from the past issues we've had with the Hells Angels in Quebec and Ontario. Back when they were behind prison guard murders and bomb assassinations that killed children bystanders.
And while that was a long time ago - the public doesn't forget, and perhaps unfairly applies that the Hell's Angels reputation to ALL motorcycle clubs universally.
Now that being said - to say something about myself - I work as a 911 operator/police call taker, and every single Hell's Angel member I've encountered over the phone has bee amongst the most patient, respectful, and well-mannered people I've ever engaged with during my work. Whether thats all an act on their end, I don't know. But it certainly broke down the stereotype in my mind of what Motorcycle clubs are at least at face value. Comparing talking to a Hell's Angel member to any other prominent criminal gang member in my area its a night and day difference.
From my motorcycle riding POV when 100,000 Straight Pipe Harleys show up in Myrtle Beach and our as loud as possible at all times it’s leaves a negative impression
Yeah, but the city wants the money right?
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Tourist our welcome BUT you still gotta be the guest people don’t regret inviting
Even before I started riding, bikers were generally the nicest people I've met.
I finally got to a place in life where I could ride again. Used to be a member of a large MA but since getting my Indian and looking back into them...they aren't active like they used to be. I would prefer to join the MO you are in but the closest chapter is 45 mins away from so it's probably unrealistic that I would have the time to properly devote to them even though the cause is something that speaks to me personally. That pretty much leaves me with local MCs or local RCs. The RCs locally are an average age generationally well older than me and with Covid non-sense, bike nights have stopped completely making it hard to meet and hang around various MCs to get a feel for where I would belong best. It's rough right now trying to get back into it all and riding alone....just isn't the same. Miss that brotherhood for sure.
Something to consider... I ride 60 miles each way to my Org meetings and our area of responsibility goes another 180 miles south of that. It's worthwhile, and the distance is a bonus. You get to ride more!
As a member of the Legion Riders I’ve come across a lot of what you mentioned, I’ve been ran of the road, and on the same token thanked for the charitable work the riders do. It really does need to stop
I love to ride but with my work schedule I dont have time to dedicate to any organization but I definately give respect to all
I completely understand