This Is Getting Out of Hand 😳
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
- In this video Ryan works with a jumping horse that has a habit of rearing.
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This guy is the reason I wanna excel in my natural horsemenship. He really promotes such a well mannered yet stern trainer for horses and communicating boundaries and understanding methods.
I love that he works WITH the horses & not against them. He understands body language & how horse’s communicate.
Thank you 👍
Love this video Ryan… my saddlebred has a similar high head… when he get a little “left brain” but he always comes back to his happy self provided I offer him the easier solutions… but I wasn’t sure how to do this on his back… now I do!!!!🎉🎉🎉… love the video and love the Patreon program all the way from here in the Middle East!!
Yes, he is quite good. One of the several mentors I use for my natural
horsemanship journey.
Ryan is so logical and intuitive both... he can assess "a situation" brilliantly and then plan an effective strategy. Need some clones of Ryan.
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Well, they're cloning polo ponies now (in Argentina), so why not Ryan?😁 (just kidding, Ryan)
Yes! Clones please!!!
He teaches both horses and people. I’d “settle” for someone who’s worked with him.
As a former pro trainer & certified in ESMT , the first thing that I'd consider is a physical problem - just like a person w/ a sudden " pinched " nerve , muscle contraction , etc. , it hurts & is scary ! Also , some horses are so very sensitive that even a slight equipment change solves a problem . So , several areas to analyze & work w/ in combination .
He said in one of his previous videos that they always have a full vet check to make sure pain/ injury or something along those lines isn’t a reason for a behavior before the video! Of course many people were concerned about that, as they should be, so he clarified that. ☺️
Yep. And especially with this being a Tb type horse. If it’s getting stuck and rearing it’s likely a soundness thing. I know they say they check it out for soundness, but my experience has been that owners can say this all they want, but there actually is an issue if a the right skilled practitioner looks at them.
Wow. That screen capture looked for all the world like the horse was standing on two legs strumming a guitar. I need my glasses.
Hi Ryan, just wanted to thank you so much for your videos. There is a horse like this at the property I ride, and one windy day she started plunging around with her scared owner not knowing what to do.... she accepted my offer to help her and using your techniques I was able to get her safely back into her pen. Her owner asked how I did it, so explained to her about yielding hindquarters etc. It just felt really good to be able to help her. In 21 years of owning horses I've never had a trainer's advice "click" as much as yours. Thanks a ton
I’m obsessed with your videos. I can’t stop watching and I’m not getting anything done here. 😂😂 thank you for sharing, your techniques are amazing
What a big change. The releases were really big for this guy. Nice.
Definitely
Game changer , i can not believe all the trainers i have asked for help and none know this technique for head down ….. it’s perfect for a horse that wants to make decisions instead of being told
I just love how not only with Ryan but others like him that as soon as they take over the reins the horse has such a change in their bodies even before anything has been done to them. Love your work Ryan
Yes, it licked and chewed, lowered it's head, had a good yawn and blew it's nose! I'm surprised it didn't lie down and sleep for a week. It had a lot of stored tension.
Some people just have it… When I got my new horse years ago he ignored me - he didn‘t hurt me or anything, he just stood there, didn‘t care about me touching him with the rope, the flag or even the stick (he‘s still very unafraid and curious about everything). I swear he kept grinning at me😂. My trainer called it the Gandhi-method…
But as soon as she took hold of the rope he immediately stood to attention and did anything she asked! I had no idea how she did it, and it took me a long time to gain the same kind of respect from him.
It‘s extremely difficult to correct him even in riding, because he knows exactly who‘s in the saddle. While he may refuse to move for one person, my trainer doesn‘t even have her second foot in the stirrup before he starts the Piaffe.
He‘s so much fun, you always need to be on your toes!
I hope she stops rattling the lead under his chin too. That promotes an upward reaction which leads to rearing ! Love everything you taught along with the trouble shooting. 😁
I'm pretty sure getting smacked in the face with the heavy metal snap doesn't help...
Agree about the lead rattling.
It help me get my draft to focus on me, instead of other things. Worked like a charm.
Love this guy. Warwick is fab but Ryan for some reason resonates with me more. No offence, Ryan, but I think it's your more simplistic approach. Didn't Einstein say that you only really understand something if you can explain it to a 6 year old? I also like the way your thought process is more visible. You're not afraid to make mistakes on camera and let us see you work things out. Humility is wonderful to see and we need bucketfuls of it to train horses.
Well said!
Ryan's videos are generally easier to apply for me. Warwick is fantastic and i have learned a ton, but Ryan has more applicable training videos in my opinion.
Thanks for watching if you would like to see more detailed training videos or ask me specific questions about your horse consider joining my Patreon page go to www.patreon.com/ryan rosehorsemanship there’s also a Patreon app.
Another nice horse......so glad you got to help with his attitude and to show his humans how to better read his thinking. Most horses only develope bad behavior from a snafu in understanding between them and their human. Another great video with a great outcome!
Sage is da bomb! What a lovely horse.
Youe way of explaining all your techniques and reasons is so refreshingly simple. I've followed many strands of natural horsemanship happily for a long time but this is the best communication I've seen. So simple and easy to tale home. From the UK!
Amazed how consistently and fast Ryan pinpoints the issues.
Once again, some very good tips for dealing with a learned but undesirable habit. He defaults to up probably because it made his human back off and letting him win. Those dominant horses are challenging but fun to work with once an understanding has been reached. Firm and fair leadership works, as you demonstrate so well.
Thanks
I always love to seethe change in the horse's attitude. Thanks!
I admit I only clicked on this video because it appeared in my "suggested" feed, and the thumbnail looked like a horse standing on its hind legs playing an electric guitar. 😆
Just PROVES you can NEVER do too much GROUND WORK!
I always learn GOOD things watching your videos Ryan Rose❤❤❤😊😊😊
Yet another fantastic video. I always have the utmost respect for these owners and riders seeking help. Thank you for letting us share in your learning journey. Lovely horse and I hope you have a lot of success with him moving forward. ❤🇩🇰
That is a gorgeous dappled mare oh my lord! Is she yours? Her energy was so serene.
Thanks for all you are shearing with us
Thanks for watching!
When I was a kid my farrier just happened to be at a horse show I was entered in. His young horse spooked, reared up and fell over on him breaking his pelvis. Really need to acclimate young horses to crowds and loud speakers
I just started watching your channel I didn't understand what this pressure & release thing was all about but in another video you explained it very well!!😁👍& now I know what that means - thank you for that!😁👍 you certainly have a way with horses!! I enjoy your videos & like how you explain all these things your doing when your working with them very nice!!😁❤️🐎🐴👌👍👍💯
Ryan, you are so intuitive. I love watching you work out these sticky points with these horses.
Ryan, you are a horse whisperer! Good job in such a short time.
Knew a horse similar to this, but instead on the ground she would decide to leave and position to kick as she left. 😅 she was the first one to teach me how dominant horses can be. I was so used to horses that backed off quickly once told off, man some horses will test ya!
Ryan thank you for the great words on the feeders Dave
ALWAYS GLAD WHEN YOU POST A NEW VIDEO.
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This guy is awesome with the horses!😃👍🏽
GREAT video!! Thank you, I’m going to watch this again
Yeah he was an interesting one.
Ryan, this is pure gold! Only one thing: holding the horses head up by the lead until he releases won't work for us shorties. Do you have a suggestion to get around that?
Yes. Sit above the horse on the rail of the fence.
I'm picturing the horse thinking "oh, I don't have to run like crazy" hahaha
A horse that behaves this way consistently may need to change from jumping to another disciple also consider a chiropractor to check out his body.
Yes. He's a bit small compared to the rider for jumping or speedy sports.
When i watch his videos, i learn what to do with my horse, thank you so much
Late to the party, but years and years ago a girl at our stable had her back broken when her horse reared and fell over backwards. She used a mechanical hackamore and was super heavy-handed. I never knew if that contributed to her horse's rearing. I was young, and it was a lesson I took to heart.
Funny how people are out of touch with how horses think and operate. Ryan pays close attention to the horse, the person, and the situation. He makes the needed adjustments to the situation that truly benefit the horse so it can feel comfortable with good leadership. As always, great job Ryan.
I think its normal for people to find horses difficult, because they're prey animals (we're predators), so our instincts on what to do, when, are often wrong. (Like patting for a reward, horses don't care for that. Or retreating when the horse gets bothered or upset, instead of only retreating when he's calm. Or grabbing both reins and tensing up when he's spooky). Most people can train dogs easily, because they're predators like us. But horses have a whole different way of operating that you need to learn
Just love watching your videos, 🎉 you have such patience and understanding with these horses, and not demanding or arrogant 😊
good job Ryan. What she needs is to really understand the principle of bend and how important it is when starting the horse. You were softly trying to get the message over to her. I wonder if she really has it in her head because that horse is going to need to learn it to be of any use. Have her take the tiedown off and start over on the ground with a one rein stop. Keep on
Tie downs are gross. I once saw a rider at a team penning using one. Because the horse couldn't stretch out and balance when turning to follow the cows, he fell twice. Super dangerous to the horse and rider.
Thank you for this video!!! Our welsh pony gets like this when he is out of work
Your editing and content was out standing on this one.
I’m a with you on that. I had a gorgeous mare that had kidney stones. Well trained, great mover, but she just shut down and became impossible to ride.
6:10 the biggest thing i absolutely love about this guy has to be how he lets horses, especially babies, just be horses. Too many people expect babies to be perfect little angels
At 2:27 im not sure if your got a new camera but the quality of this video is great!
We did! 😂 good eye 👍
Beautiful moving horse! He would make a gorgeous dressage horse once he matures and can balance himself better. ❤
This video pushed me to your Patreon! Followed on UA-cam for awhile, always good basic common horse sense with issues. The approach with this “left brained” horse is what I have learned with mine, and you also use some techniques that a trainer I have used in the past employed. I love working with my gelding and still have one huge issue that we’ve worked on for a couple of years.
What i can see here, once again, is how poorly the instruction/training of 'classical' riders in the US seems to be.... They are very lucky to have you Ryan as your advice is spot on what's being thought by School of Légèreté....
I really like that gray horse. She’s pretty and always looks so relaxed. What’s her name? ❤ 🐴
I think it’s Sage
Hmmm, have to give this a go with my stallion. Not sure it will work when he's overly excited about a mare but might work for his other tantrums 😅
Hope you come to Florida and do some trainings! I would love to attend and learn from you. Love your videos.
More warm up of a horse is needed like this. Slow and steady wins the race. So many times I see people at horse shows just tack them and start trotting around then moving quickly into jumping. And then they drill and drlll and drill over the practice jumps . Like slow down and breathe. Your horse knows how to jump already or I'd hope so if you're showing. Patience and time. So quick solutions .
Thanks for another video!
I think i just saw you on Beckman's video earlier lol, guess we have very similar taste in trainers
@@gwingobingo Haha yep!
Awesome! Thx from Melbourne 👏🏻🙏
Ryan you are amazing !... we think the same... I had the same problem with an OTT and he has learned well to relax and lower his head when standing cause i used the other method you mentioned where I ask him to lower it. He has adopted his relaxed stance well now to lower his head on his own while standing. But i still had the problem of him holding his head high when lunging at trot or canter so i will use the first method you explained and then use the queue when I am lunging him or riding him. !hanks so much for showing use real word problems !
Love the format of this video!
Very nice video. Exellent success with this horse.
Ella is an amazing rider, you Ryan are awesome trainer, love the way you train both rider and horse
Great video- Thank you for sharing. It's super helpful!
Nice work
Thanks
I'm too short to teach head down like that LMAO
this is great and will really help me with the gelding i'm working with. would you consider adding details to your video titles so that they come up in searches for specific training advice?
I like you this is how I tiran my horse is watching your video
Horse named Elymer? As is elymers glue ....
This was at my old barn 😳
Great examles of being the leader and letting him choose to lower head. also would you remove the tie down now????
Hi Ryan, your lead in pix and caption caused me to giggle. I am 86 and my eye sight is get bad . It looked to me like your horse was standing up on his hind legs and playing a guitar. Age isn’t all it cracked up to be, the Golden Years are only great for Doctors and Lawyers. Have a great day
So so true, not to sure who the leader is, I had a similar situation with my gelding, not any more, haha, love it, great advice ✌️
My family had a horse named Shotgun. He was not the cooperative sort of horse whatsoever. It was my sister's horse, which is ironic, since she was especially uncooperative too. Yes, two peas in a pod. Nonetheless, dad asked me to work with the beast, and it was a fight to the finish. At first, the horse would only back up when I got into the saddle. Then, he began the rearing thing.
Well, my two hundred, fifty pound father decided to ride him, and Shotgun seemed to be a bit more cooperative. Then, he reared. Dad may have been big, but he was nimble. Quick as a wink, he pushed off the horse and, holding the saddle horn, yanked Shotgun over onto his back.
The horse landed square on the saddle with a horrible crack. I though the horse's back broke, but it was the wood in the saddle. After this, I'd like to report the horse learned his lesson. However, I cannot. The horse was insane and continued resisting any and all efforts to ride him.
Surprised you didn't suggest ditching the Martin Gal. I've seen horses brace against it. If they can get it to be relaxed they won't "need" it anyway..
Choosing...sweet technique!
The thumbnail looked like a horse playing a guitar while standing on two legs.
It made me watch. Be safe cowboys and cowgirls... cowfolk?
Can't train pain!
Wow, this was excellent.
Great video. I am always amazed. Has trying to lift the head instead of lowering it to encourage them to drop, ever not worked for you?
I’m having an issue with an Arab mare rescue older horse. She keeps her head up and seems to want to dominate. So I will try this technique. Makes sense
Horse desperately needs more ground work. If you can’t lead on ground work, then you are not ready for saddle work. Horse needs more ground work. 😊
Found this very interesting and helpful as I have a horse who tries to dominate me. He doesn’t rear up but will threaten to by just propping up and coming in on me. His head is often up and he’s inattentive to me. I have been trying to get him to lower his head by downward pressure and he will yield to me. My problem is he is over 17hh and I’m not tall enough to keep his head up until he decides to lower it himself. I guess I just need to keep going with lowering it?
Sit on the top rail of a fence and do it from there.
Well that was weird. The thumbnail looked like a banjo-strumming bear or something.
"Fundamentals...of what?" I can never hear what it says
He may have fascia or skelatal issues. Has he been seen by a equine body work specialist. So much to unravel with this guy.
Great video Ryan
@Ryan -Do you apprentice trainers sometimes? If so would it be possible to be put in contact with one of your students in my area? Our horse is nowhere near as tough as ones in your videos, but my wife and I need lessons to successfully work with him. I’m at point where I no longer expect to ever get on his back again.
He's awful from the ground, so it's not a surprise he's the same under saddle.
As a person with intermediate horse experience, I love watching your videos. I have two questions. Where should you go to find a “first horse” and secondly, how much would you say owning and caring for your horse cost in let’s say a month?
For anyone to be able to answer that for you, they need to know where you live. Not your home adress of course, but the general area.
If you have a trainer, they might know people who can help you find that "first horse". Otherwise, I'd go make friends at a riding barn and see if someone is willing to point you in the right direction for quality, solid horses.
As for horse care, monthly, in my area it's really expensive. I don't have to worry about boarding fees but I'm still spending like $450 to $500 per month for two. I don't even want to think about what I'd have to pay if I had boarding fees to worry about. 😅
Knowing a trainer would be best for helping you choose a horse. To mirror what others say, horses can be extremely expensive! Especially if you have to board them. We paid about $700 monthly for board/feed, which didn't include vet bills/shoes/equipment. To have them live with you, just that amount of land around me is upwards of $500k, lol.
These days most horses are advertised for sale on the internet. Look for what's described as a novice ride. Most horses are still useful up to 20 but older than than that probably not a good idea. Take someone with horse experience with you. Watch the owners ride it first. If it looks ok ride it in the school and then out on a hack/trail ride. Go back another time to try it again to be really sure. I am fortunate enough to have my own grazing and my horses live out. They wear front shoes as I have to do road work. I feed them when they work to put back in what I've taken out. If they have good grazing and are good doers they won't need extra forage, maybe in the winter if you have snow and frost. Don't waste money on stuff that's really not necessary. You don't need much more than a couple of good rugs, tack, grooming kit and first aid kit. If you keep your horse in and clipped in the winter at livery it will cost substantially more. I'm all for keeping it simple and as natural as possible. Ask God to find you to help find you the horse you need and He will oblige.
I'm backing a 4yr full Clydesdale gelding. He's doing really well. But watching this has raised a question. He does tend to throw his head up if hes asked to do something that he's not keen to do. We do work through it, but could this be along the same lines behaviorally? He's also now refusing to move if we ride inside the paddock where he lives but outside of there he's very keen. I don't have a lot of riding place options at the moment and I worry about him getting paddock sour. Does anyone have any tips or advice? All other aspects of his training are going extremely well.
Looks like I need to become a patreon!! 😊 Thanks everyone in advance ❤😊
He’s from a working horse breed so he might appreciate a “job”……some thinking included with his arena work….where he had to work out a few problems here and there. Maybe try teaching him to maneuver through some obstacles - think more like gate, side pass pole, some pole work patterns, etc rather than desensitizing, “scary” obstacles which are not usually “thinky”. Ride some patterns and switch them up so he always has to wonder whats next and cant just zone out. My husbands draft loves a thinking job - on the ground and in the saddle.
I wonder how much resistance to moving the front end has to do with his front hooves. His LF especially has a very low heel. Just something the owner can investigate too 👍 @5:36 for example
He needs a steady leader.
Equine chiropractor already seen him? That's the first step. Don't assume he's a bad actor first. Assume he is in pain and has a reason until that is ruled out. I've "retrained" a number of horses by having the chiropractor out. Problem solved.
Shoulder, back pain?
I'd like to thank you for these videos this is what I'm dealing with with this horse Ofmine Wyatt
I recommend a dental too.
Awesome!
When you raise the reins to get him to lower his head, could that trigger a rear ?
only if they're already thinking about it. That's why you yield the hind end first
That's why you teach it on the ground first. When they have learned it there, then you can apply it while in the saddle.
Does anyone know if this horse has King Fritz in his pedigree? He appears so to me.
Please tell me you come to the Netherlands sometime🙏
The problem I was seeing was in her lunging. Horses don't like the lead rope tossed in their face. That brings their head up. Good job both of you!
Is the water cold? Just wonder? I Dont have horses .😊❤
You are good!!😊
I'm sure it was already rolled out but I would make sure this horse doesn't have kissing spine. Seems like he only acts up on tight circles which could be very painful with KS