WILL IT RUN? First Start of FLOODED 1965 Chevrolet Corvair 110 Monza sitting 13 years!
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Welcome back to Auto Anatomy, it has been way too long since we've had an update video. Between moving 1700 miles, new jobs, and just life...I haven't been able to work on a project. But we're back with a new car!
I picked up a 1965 Chevrolet Corvair 110 Monza that has been sitting since 2008. Per the seller, it was a complete, perfect car in 2008 when the owner passed away from cancer and it has been sitting since. It was sold to another person who wanted something similar to what he had in high school, but he had too many projects and it just sat around at his place.
We're going to try and get it up and running for the first time since 2008. I'll walk through the steps I take to bring an older engine back from the grave, and hopefully we'll get it up and running!
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Thank you so much for watching and God bless!
Sean, Christie, and the Auto Anatomy team
It’s been a while since we’ve had a new project, but I’m excited to be back and have picked up (what I think is) a really cool car. I’m learning a lot about these “American Porsches” as they definitely have some quirks.
What should we ultimately do with this one? Full resto? Keep the original patina? Somewhere in between? Let me know below, and make sure you’re subbed!
That's a really nice blue, especially on a straight body. Leave it as patina for awhile, then I think a really good body and paint job.
Not a vacum leak Smoke is from blowby . Part of the crankcase ventilation system.
My 65 corsa turbo was a flood car as well, flooded in 2001, and then mechanically fixed up in 2020 and put back on the road. I daily it now.
Good on you man, these old things deserve to be in good order and working. It's nearly impossible to kill these aircooled engines and taken care of they'll last quite a while.
Corsas came stock w/140 hp w4x1 carbs(optional on Monzas) and the 180 hp turbo was optional on the Corsas !
I just want to thank you so much for bringing my late husband's baby back to life. I see you're doing everything he wanted to do before he passed away. I'm absolutely thrilled, and I know he would be too! And it hit me funny that you're wearing the same shirt he wore when he last began work on it! I'm excited to see the rest of your your restoration. Please let me see you and your wife cruising in it when it's finished, we were supposed to, but of course, it never happened. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you so much, that's very touching. I'd love to hear more about the car if you get a second. You can email me at autoanatomy@icloud.com and we can talk more.
Sean
I owned a 62 Monza 900. Was always installing new brushes in the generator. Dropped the engine out in my uncles back yard to install a throw out bearing. Brings back good memories. Thank you
You got a project ahead of you! Corvairs are a wonderful car which handle very well. My neighbors had an early Monza for mom and Denny has a beautiful red Corsa. I like their looks today.
Something I learned with the two I own, remove the upper fan shroud and do everything in your power to clear ALL the cooling fins. 50+ years of potential crud will nuke your engine.
Actually the fins are really clean (shockingly), except for oil leaking from the pushrod tubes.
@@AutoAnatomy The "flood" may have been beneficial after all.
You can get new Viton O-rings for the push rod tubes to solve the leak problem. If you haven't yet discovered Clark's Corvair Parts, you will be glad you did.
Love that you are bringing an old classic back to life. I grew up when all cars had metal bumpers, beit chrome or nickel plated, plus every car was made out of steel. I really love old cars and I am not prejudice against any type of maker. I just saw the best looking 56 Dodge station wagon, complete except for the back window. No rust at all and the chrome looks like it was new. Amazing car, but it's just sitting, plus it's actually 4 sale ! Going to try and find out how much she wants for it. Hopefully it'll be in my price range. 🙏
Thank you so much! I’d love to do a big old wagon soon, that Dodge sounds very cool!!
I love this year Corvair
Thanks, me too!
That air filter system was called the desert option as it was made for the Southwest and its dusty-sandy roads(a rare indeed option).The oil had water in ti so that means acid and it will make it dubious as to how much damage has occurred. Plan on a rebuild soon!
Im jealous, i love it! 😆
Have fun!
Thanks! 😃
You're encouraging me to start working on my 1965 corvair that has been sitting for about 50 years ( under cover in the barn).
Thank you for the video!!!
Go for it!
Do it. Make sure you get the fuel tank out an clean. Fuel pump will leak with alcohol gas. So replace or have a fire. I recommend taking out spark plugs and spraying generous amount Of PB blaster into the cylinder's over night before burying to spin the engine. Good luck.
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Thank you. I'll remove the tank and clean it out. I hadn't thought about that. I'll also spray the cylinders as you advise. :)
From the way the the dirt was in the car and frunk, the carbs, plus the milkshake oil. I was thinking flood car early in the video
Hi Sean, I love the Corvair. It was Christmas 1966, I was a bachelor and I was blessed by the generosity of a work colleague when he took me to his folk's place for the holidays. He had a dark blue '65 or '66 Monza. We drove through a white-out on the Eastern Townships Autoroute in Quebec. You would have enjoyed riding in the car as much as I did. In retrospect, I know he was more satisfied with his purchase than I later was to be with new '67 Ford Cortina GT!
When a Corvair has been sitting for so long you should always pull the distributor and take a long flat bladed screw driver minus the handle inserted in a drill and spin the oil pump to prime the oil system.
Bought a new 65 Vair while in the Air Force in TX. Was a 140HP Corsa model and paid I think about $2400 for in off the showroom floor. Then proceded to put probably that much into again in various speed , wheels & tires and suspension after market parts. A guy in Calif (Bill Thomas) and a guy on the east coast (Bill Fitch) were big time aftermarket parts guys. The car was very quick and handeled as good or maybe better than a Vette on parking lot tracks. Then I met one of those Texas gals and the Corvair had to hit the trail for a more sedate Chevy Nova....Such is life!!!!!!!!!!!! Bob M.
Good video. Once I saw the engine insides I said "FLOOD CAR". Where else would water come from?
My dad worked for the local Chevrolet dealership in the 60 s and he built a corvear engine for an airplane ,the owner was a lawyer and he never got sewed so I guess he did a good job 😛
Glad you're back with another project.
I had a 65 Corsa was a blast to drive
I’m sure! Thanks for checking out the video!
Glad you're back! We've missed you. Congratulations on a successful move. My mother's side of the house hailed from Lancaster, South Carolina. It's a beautiful place. I'm looking forward to more on the Corvair project.
We are very blessed to live in a beautiful place, and so happy to be back with a new project!
I think You are quite right on it being a flood car ! & that was a nice break down on the Corvair , For 1965 you had 4 different HP engines base engine was a 95 HP then a 110, 140 & the 180 Turbo & the Corsa came with a 140 & the Turbo was a optional & on the 500 & Monza models you could order a 110 or a 140 as a option & your 65 Monza looks pretty intact & fairly solid & when You do the interior if You redo the seats You'll find the build sheet inside the passenger side front seat. Thanks for the video & I hope that didn't harm the paint on your 52.
It's always a good idea to prime the oil system by pulling the distributor and taking a long screwdriver blade attached to a drill and spinning the oil pump.
I have a 71 Thunderbird I’m flipping, and then plan to pull out my great grandfathers 67 Corsa. It’s been parked for several decades, though it’s been in a nice dry barn, hopefully it won’t need more than a little teasing to wake it back up.
Also, my first car was a 52 like yours, solid white with a red and white interior. I sold it recently as I wanted to move into classics I could long haul and daily.
Will look forward to part 2!
Glad to see you back. The corvar we'll be a fun project looking forward to it.
Glad to be back, and I'm ready to hear it really run!
A full restoration would probably make it very valuable to a Corvair collector.
corvairs are not that valuable. that's a good thing it is one of the most affordable and practical old cars you can have.
Like all cars, Corvairs have seen their prices rise over the last two years. I would imagine that trend is going to continue
@@AutoAnatomy i would like to buy 3 more before that happens.
Looking forward to this I’m a big fan of Corvairs
Thanks! I’m definitely learning a lot working on this one, hope you enjoy!
With regards to opening the trunk, I would have taken the glove box lock to a locksmith and have a key made for it because it's keyed the same as the trunk lock.
Wish I could have, but the glove box lock was also busted.
Back in the day we would drain the oil and fill with diesel fuel and run the engine for around 10 minutes drain and fill with oil it worked like a solvent
Hey there, glad to see that you are back and making new content for us viewers. Hope your move went well and everyone is doing well. Carolina's are a bit different from Colorado eh. I just stumbled upon this video and I see I have some catching up to do so I'll move along and get to watching
Cool! My Dad drove the previous of 1959... Hmmm... modelairplane helicopter. RC flyers always perfert 🙂
Thanks! It's a Kyosho Concept 30. Don't fly it much anymore, prob need to sell. Make you a heck of a deal!
@@AutoAnatomy Well... I live in the EU...
so it makes no sense. But I do fly a bunch of RC models. Tinker on those, and tinker on old Lancia's. Corvairs are rare over here.
Specially in Holland. But there is a an active Corvair Club. Way more expensive here...
Great many were build in Switzerland too. Believe both first and second series...
Our Corvair came by passenger liner. After a 3 year family stay in the US...
I'm surprised nobody in the comments brought up that broken starter nose. Manual gearbox Corvairs would crack the starter nose if the flywheel got "loose". It's a 3-piece flywheel designed to flex slightly so as to help dampen out vibrations from clutch/pressure plate balance issues via having a "flex plate" that bolts to the crank and a cast iron platter the clutch attaches to, along with a steel inertia ring on the back side of the flywheel to add mass. The three parts are held together with rivets. After a few decades and 100k+ miles the rivets can loosen and the iron platter can shift off-center slightly which can cause the starter to bind up and actually crack the nose off the housing. When a flywheel starts to get bad enough to crack the starter nose, it will warn you by vibrating noticeably. A loose flywheel like this will "buzz" if you wack it with a rubber mallet. There is a cottage industry out there, occupied by people who rebuild Corvair flywheels on a regular basis, usually via drilling out the rivets, recentering and aligning the parts back to being round, and bolting it all together with compact grade-8 hardware. Other people have had luck with TIG welding the pieces in place after alighment. Some people will leave that steel inertia ring off completely with no real noticeable difference in the operation of the car. This makes it easier to fit the bolting hardware to the flywheel so as to not end up with bolt heads rubbing things they aren't supposed to rub, which doesn't happen to begin with if the right hardware is used, but some people tend to use what they can get and hope for the best. I've bolted a fair number of flywheels in my time but I'm curious to see how well TIG welding the parts will work. If the rivets are getting loose but the flywheel segments are still in alignment I can see how welding the rivets and the pieces together could work nicely, might have to give it a try next time I run across a loose flywheel. Of course, your mileage may vary. :-) Next, after all this, with my luck I'll probably see a part-2 of this video where the flywheel issue could end up discussed in detail...
The starter nose cone was broken (I think) when it was attempted to be started with water in the crankcase. The flywheel was actually in great shape, surprisingly. It's been taken out a couple times and most recently I drilled and bolted the flywheel solid, but it wasn't rattling when I did it.
@@AutoAnatomy It's good insurance to refurbish the flywheel anytime an original engine is taken out, or at least check the flywheel via the rubber mallet trick. The gearbox Corvairs in the fleet here all have bolted flywheels, thus I needn't worry about them. :-)
Enjoyed this vid thanks and best wishes with your Corvair project[s]!
Thanks Russ!
Ya extrañaba tus proyectos y videos, y éste me encanta, estoy aburrido de siempre Mustang, Camaro, GTO, VW Beatle, Karman... siempre lo mismo! Ésto es refrescantes, espero con entusiasmo los nuevos videos! Suerte!
It will run if you're smart enough to make is run.
Just to let you know i enjoyed your vid.
Thanks.(uk)
Thank you!
Good thinking on your part maybe flush with kerosene after reinstalling the oil pan the rings should reseat with heat good luck.
Too bad that car went underwater at some point. Fun project though!
Yeah, but thankfully there's not much to damage on these cars. Barely any wiring or electronics
Hey fyi, points ignition system crank on 12 volts, but run on 6 volts.
east coast tech
rich
Hello Sean, it looks like you found yourself a real nice project car. Sure was a lot of water in with that oil, yuk! I thought you would find some chewed wires causing that low voltage to the coil. Glad that it has not been an issue for you.
George B. in Michigan
A long time Corvair fan.
Thank you, me too!
Oh shit on your '52". This would have happened to me too!
You could have run the oil pump without cranking the engine over. If you take out the distributor there is a large standard screw head at the bottom, there’s a tool you can get, that you chuck on to a drill and run the oil pump. FYI for next time.
Not a good idea to check for spark when the wire is next to the open carburetor. Disconnect the main fuel line from the fuel tank and try starting out of a gas tank with fresh fuel. Love the old Vairs
Good point, and thanks!
Should add one quart of transmission fluid to help clean oil passages
Hello, my friend had one, as I remember it had 4 or 6 carbs. What model would that have been. I remember it was a real hard to keep all carbs working. His mother had a model that was a automatic shifted on the dash. We would borrow and drive it like it was stolen. We would drive like crazy but when you would shift up it would go into reverse passing D. The trans would lockup and skid. What fun they were...
That would be the Corsa with 140 HP and 4 carbs. Two were primary and the other two would open up near full throttle. What a fun memory and thanks for checking out the videos!
Hey! A 'Merkin starter Porsche! :)
That car was flooded you can see mud rings in the trunk, mud on the seats
Dont forget to Clean the Oil Cooler
Make shore you fix the front windshield that leek and rust the floor.corvair never had a oil bath air cleaner .if you need parts you can from Clark's covirs
The oil bath air filter was part of the “Desert Pack” and was optional. I have most of the pieces but missing the snorkel on top. The main air filter is still paper.
Yes they had oil bath air cleaners as an option. I have one or two of them.
I have a 64 Corvan 95 (panel truck Corvair) and I wasn't aware the left and right carbs were different internally. (maybe not all?) Guess I need to look into that. Will also have to investigate that restrictor in the breather. Mine has a PVC system that looks like it may have been adapted from another year and I have never been able to get the idle down to the 650 spec. The lowest I can go is around 800, so this might be the answer to my run-on problem. As for finding hidden treasures... in my glovebox I stumbled on an inspection ticket from 1978, which may be the original owner in North Carolina. The vehicle has been in Ct since the late 80s but never been driven in the snow.
I thing rear carbs on 4 carb engine have no needle to make fuel lean
I thought both were identical (left vs right), unless the trucks/vans are different. I’d check with Clarks on that one
@@AutoAnatomy ... I may be confused due to the time lapse, but a few years ago I bought carb kits and was told the difference was a slightly richer main jet on the trucks. (kits include new jets) Maybe there's another variation but it seems the gaskets are the same.
right and left carbs are identical.
Glad your back. Good video.
Thanks!
@@AutoAnatomy well I’d like a full restoration. On the other and I loved what you did with the Thunderbird. How ever deep you want to dive in the Corvair I’m along for the ride.
Welcome back!!!
I wonder if there is more water in the oil??? Hope not..
I haven't seen a Corvair on the road in a long while..
Very interested to see more of this car.
Thanks Howard!
@@AutoAnatomy best regards!
hey Sean great Corvair car project! I still have some questions about the 66 t-bird. 1. Would you be willing to explain to me about the engine valves on what you did to them? 2. did you remove alternator when replacing water pump? 3. also was it hard for your dad to replace brake booster because i think you have to go under dash to remove?? Lastly you would be willing to reveal how much t-bird was when you purchased it?
Thank you!
Plenty of milkshake there, no need to drive through McDonalds
That looks a lot like a flooded car. Fortunately not much electronics to destroy.
Did the selling of the porsche work out well? Fun with a new project, and an odd choice of car makes this much more interesting :)
It did work out well, it sold to the Porsche dealer in Colorado Springs for their classic decision. And this is a really neat car, sort of an American Porsche (if you will).
It was obviously a flood car…all that brown mud in the trunk and all through the engine.
Yep! Keep watching, lots more challenges along the way.
Can you tell me where the where the vin number tag is ?
7 volts? Of course. Old cars used a ballast resistor
I would never by a car in flood! always hidden damage.
Welcome to. Sc from. Aiken sc
Thanks! Hope y’all are safe with all the recent storms.
@@AutoAnatomy no big deal. One 1/2 in of rain. I’m on top of a sand hill. Sponge I could tell you a story about a Corvair happened in 1969. My buddy had one. Spider. Fast cool little car long time ago.
Will it run? It never did before😉
Run vs ruuuun. It’s a powerful 110 hp!
I need help I have a 1965 Chevy Monza been driving good first time I put gas $30 of gas and today when I try to started it start leaking gas from the right Carburetors what can it be it’s over fill
Sounds like the right float has stuck. Try tapping the side of the carb (lightly) with a hammer and see if it frees up.
Stuck choke maybe.
Or as mention above stuck float more likely.
HI THIS IS VIC FROM LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA I INTERESTING IN BUYING A CHRVROLET CORVAIR 110 MONZA SO COULD WORK ON I WANT TODO A NEW PROJECT, IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO. THAT WILL HELP ME DO THIS NEW PROJECT. SEND ME SONE INFORMATION I AN WILLING TO TRAVEL TO ANY PLACE YOU RECOMENT TO GO TO BUY IT.
Hi Vic, it will be available for sale very soon. I'll post a link to the for sale ad here on my community page, as well as on my Facebook and Instagram accounts for those interested. Thanks!
Just found your channel I too have a channel if your interested in check it it I'm now watching the second video of the corvair good stuff so far
Flood effected car
Flood Car?
My guess is that car was in a flood.
Most definitely
In my case ..I bought a Corsair in 1965 as that was the cheapest vehicle that I could afford at age 21……..and in so many words after only three years and 20,000 miles…..it was brand new …..and I got rid of it as troubles with gas leaking out o& the motor assembly while travelling became a serious problem and being a new type on the market with GM ………the sooner I got rid of it the better of I was …total disappointment and having to be moving from place to place at the time …it became a total inconvenience ..and also to get servicing ……by GM from place to place …..more than a serious headache …thus I bought a Ford product in 1968 ..good riddance to a garbage can ..and GM recognized their major mistake as it was discontinued after four years …..they attempted ..no doubt to duplicate the volskswagon …..crap all the way…..what a relief..😤😳😶🌫️🤯🤬🥶
I think it was a flood car
And, and,and,and,and,and.................
Sorry but that is a flood car mud all over the place
Yep, definitely flooded. Thankfully there aren’t any electronics to speak of in this one
Flood
Too much talk not enough work
No offense but less face and more car
Roger that