How To Ride Corners Properly | MiniTip Monday
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Great sitting technique is one of the most overlooked parts of beginner riding technique. How we sit on the bike, and what we do with out body makes a tremendous difference and it's not just about going around corners.
In this video, my partner Lucy, gets a quick-ish rundown of basic corner technique on a dirt bike. Over the course of a few hours she made fantastic progress, but as you can see it's a skill that needs a lot of work to get right.
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This was MASSIVELY helpful! I loved the format with a novice trying new things. Her questions were my questions! Loved it!
No problem Brad! Glad it helps 😬
Totally excellent tutorial! Format was great, watching someone "learn" compared to just the expert showing how it's done. Lucy seems like a great sport! ;) Regarding comments about "just go ride"... I'm over 60 years old, been riding since I'm a kid, so I can attest that 1000's of hours of doing things the wrong way, is NOT helpful - bad habits are crazy-hard to break!
Thanks for the comment Bruce. I totally agree 🤣🤣 Glad you enjoyed it and yes she is!
Agreed! I’m 75 y.o, and have the same problem but it does work better watching someone else learning. Les
61 here and completely agree…video is so helpfully and the why of why do things in a certain way! Really helpful!
I’m a female rider and going from riding street to dirt. This video was super helpful!! Please make more like this!!
I've watched loads of your teaching videos whilst static biking 45 mins (recovering from double fractured collar bone - hit a tree that jumped out in front of me). This is the best teaching video you have done. Please can you cover all basic skills like this? Hearing the feedback that you give, watching someone else learning and seeking answers to all the questions I would ask and her determination to get it right. Fabulous.
Glad you like the video Cathy, there'll be more like this coming along over the next few months. Hope you have a swift recovery! 😀
This is GREAT, so GREAT!! I don't even have the words to say how much so! The delivery, editing, questions from your girlfriend are so illustrative of the issues we face when riding. Thanks so much!!
Also like the format watching a novice learn new skills. Very good explanation. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
No problem Nova! Thanks for watching 😁
Well done. Clear, concise! It would help a lot of ADV riders, if you did this for adv bikes, on and off road, with off road tires.
We have
I’m learning a lot, thank you all
Your comment about pushing down on the left handle to go left got me thinking about counter steering offroad. Not sure if you've covered that specifically somewhere. Thanks dude, loving your content!
Great tutorial! Really well conceived and presented. The “teach a novice” format is exceptional and should be used more in the future. Well done.
Thanks very much - we'll definitely do more of these so stay tuned 😀
Ha ha! Lucy won't be a novice for long the way she's going. :)
For me this is the most important foundational skill I need to acquire. I have taken copious notes 😂🤣😂and will begin daily practice of the positions and techniques until I have them mastered. A few weeks ago at a training school I followed 7 or 8 other students and the instructor through a tight turn around a fence post through water drenched clay muck with numerous deep ruts and of course I Iost it. 1 broken rib later while healing I find your UA-cam channel. Thank you for the instruction.
I highly appreciate this video. The idea to teach a "beginner", show the difference to a a more experienced rider, very clear and practical advices and so on! It motivates and helps me a lot, since I have just started a few months ago with a Yamaha WR 250 F. Thank you and kind regards from Switzerland, Martin 🙏🙌
Yet another excellent Llel Pavey instructional video
This is by far the BEST video I have found that really breaks it down. And being able to watch her being taught as well as listening to her perspective really helped relate. Thank you for this! Was exactly what I needed!
Glad it helped Bridgette. We have a ton more you might enjoy, including some new ones coming!
Fantastic format and approach, I felt like you were teaching me. Your girlfriend is lucky to have you as a coach, so patient, calm and articulate. Great job, thank you.
Thanks very much Sasha 😀
Another great video. I really like how you explained the reasoning why you do certain things. A sign of a great teacher. If people understand why they should sit forward, why put elbows up higher, why slide their butt over why tip the bike in, then they will be more likely to try it and improve their riding skills. Many thanks.
Thanks Gloss Black! You're welcome!
Absolutely brilliant LP, really helpful and informative, clear and concise, and well filmed. My friend has just bought a CRF 300, so I've forwarded this to him. Funnily enough I just watched 'Sam Sunderland's Race To The Tallest Building In The World', and when he was flat out, he had his arms straight sitting on the back of the seat, so I'd better forward it to him too😉
It is very hard to take instruction from a partner or a sibling. With both the learner can become defensive..thinking they are being demeaned instead of instructed. I believe you do a great job of teaching and not pointing out how wrong she is. I really like your teaching/explanation videos....Thank you
Thanks Soilsman. That means a lot. It's tricky to now create the situation you describe!
Thanks for breaking this down, I never learned flat corners like this and its cost me dearly in races where I always lose positions in the corners! Frustrated me no end that I can't keep up and get through flat corners confidently at speed.
Great video - well done Lucy. One of the best you've done.
Sitting at the middle of the bike gives so much more control over the bike, but at 6’4 the acute angles of my hip and knee are crazy. Pair that with super stiff, non-hinged mx boots and it’s a complete circus 😅
Great video as always, instruction wise you’re at the very top of all the channels I follow.
Get a tall seat my man. You'll thank me a 1000 times over. Changed how my bike feels.
@@BrakeMagazine Yeah I had one on my T7, helped a lot, great tip! Ride a DRZ now, I want a Seat Concepts tall seat for it, but its expensive for a cheap bike 😅
L paVey I've been practicing with your videos awhile now man and my bike skills has become awesome , your explanation is incredible great job man 😁
Glad to help! It's really cool that you're getting something from then.
Awesome,100% right comments about taking your foot off the peg.👍👍
Agree with previous comments. Such a refreshing format to see a novice (like me) being taught and reflecting on the learning. You are clearly an expert and patient teacher. Great manner about you, not arrogant just knowledgeable and helpful, thanks.
Great stuff! I'm learning a LOT here. Keep it up! :D
Editing tips: 1. Don't place white text in bright areas (use black text, or you can give overlay a background) 2. When something is "wrong" (ie; overlay text about Lucy's elbow) don't use a green/blue color, use an orange/red color for the overlay/animation instead. This will help viewers to instantly identify the text as "a warning" instead of "a tip".
I followed your instructions on road ,today , the bike was in complete control , I got more speed and my bike behaved above it's potential.
I never really understood the reason to take the inside foot off the pedal when taking a corner on a dirt bike. Your videos are always super detailed and helpful, thanks heaps
Loving this new format!
Yeah...great....Thanks you guys..... Hay from CANADA!
Glad i found your channel, cornering technique is complicated but you've broken it down into an easy to digest lesson. You're a natural teacher and very uplifting for your student. Subscribed sir!
Thank you for the kindest words!
Great video. I had both a Lucy and hair in the 90's - oh the humanity!
I can recommend both having hair and Lucy in your life 😂
great new format. Well done!!
Spot on correct arm position does feel weird at first but in time you won’t notice 👍👍
this is a must watch
God, you two make such an endearing sweet couple. This format was brilliant, and Lucy is an excellent learner.
Thanks. This is a lovely comment 😁
This is REALLY helpful! I think you've got a great way of explaining and teaching, and the way you edited the videos makes it very smooth to watch and absorb. Great stuff - keep them coming :)
Excellent tutorial and great new format !
Great instructional video! Regarding your comments removing the inside foot from the peg in some turns, another reason to put your foot forward and up is to help keep the center of gravity a bit forward on the front wheel.
Terrific instructional video Llel. I'm glad you mentioned ADV bikes in the end, as I would have asked that question for sure. I'm on a Tiger 900 Rally Pro, and here in Southern California, most of the dirt roads seem to be hard pack covered with a light coat of sand, or just sand period. Total nerves trying to learn on that stuff! Still looking for some good old sand-less dirt to ride! As several others have mentioned, keep up these great training vids! Maxi-tip Mondays now!
So I jus rewatched this video and thought it was interesting you mentioned Ryan Hughs. I learned the importance of rolling my hips forward from him. Never could I have guessed such a small thing could make such a big difference. That dude has some serious insight. Putting the edge of my seat in the crack of my arse I must give credit to Megs Brrrap on youtube. It's nice to see those concepts being reinforced here. Love your channel.
Great video. Very comprehensive and well explained.
Glad it was helpful!
This is a great format, having the lovely Lucy learning as you go along makes it real, something people can identify with. Look forward to seeing more Mini-Tip Mondays in this format.
Does Lucy have her own channel/social media? Would be great to get her take on how she feels her riding is coming along 👍
She does not do social media at all sorry, but I reckon we might do something along those lines. Might make a fun podcast episode!
These videos really are superb 👏
Really enjoyable and didactic format 👍
Really good tutorial, I’ve been teaching my daughter how to correctly ride a dirt bike, as I said to her, the natural positions on a dirt bike isn’t necessary the right position,
it’s difficult at 1st but as the unnatural position becomes the natural position than skill will get so much better..
Really helpful! Thanks for doing that 🙌👍👍👍👍
An excellent instructional video.
Outstanding instruction. Good job Lucy!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching :)
Great video chap! Some really helpful tips, even for someone like me who’s done a little bit of riding - a great reminder of the fundamentals. Will be putting in to practice at the weekend!
I really thought the arms position was so important. I've started moving the bum out of the seat after watching some of your videos, but the arms never ever crossed my mind. Great tutorial for anyone getting into riding off-road.
Interesting. When i was in the msf course for street, it was all very low speed stuff.
I inductively pushed down on the bars for most maneuvers.
They keep saying push the bars, but they meant forward, so i didn't understand until near the end, because i was succeeding at everything (because i was pushing them, just in a different direction).
So now i see you talking about pushing the bars downward, and it's like, "yeah, that's what my brain thought worked right at slow speed"
(I do need to get comfortable with fast flicks, so I'm not dismissing pushing forward)
Good teacher.
Good student.
Excellent as usual. Thank you.
Thank Robert!
Thanks for another great tip! And thank Lucy too.
Our pleasure! I'll let her know :)
Just subscribed to your videos, after watching several of them. Pure quality, passion and teaching abilities, bravo. Thanks mate for building this for us beginners adv riders 🫡
Thanks! Very, very useful! Cheers!
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed!
'In the crack.... Of your butt' you both did well to keep a straight face, if I tried doing a video with my other half teaching her anything I think we would just start laughing. I've been riding off road mainly just local lanes, some are quite harsh down this way though, for past 3ish years but been road riding for 10 plus before hand. I struggle most with body position around a corner, on the road and track you are always trying to lean off the bike and keep the bike stood up for more grip, then going back to off road where you want to lean opposite the bike, similar to MTB, which I also struggle with, that's definitely the hardest for me, good to hear it from a professional point of view though, I will keep at it!
I took effort to keep a straight face 😂 I think it was first time nerves that made that happen 😂 Where do you live Dan?
@@BrakeMagazine ye good on ya for keeping going! I would have probably dropped the bike or something silly 😂 I'm down in South Devon, where abouts are you based?
Great job - the both of you
Great vid. Great to see you back. Cheers, Cam from NZ :)
Hey Cam! Glad you enjoyed!
@@BrakeMagazine Did you see my riding challenge? Bit cheeky I know, but I thought it would be a fun thing for channels and viewers to have a go at. I know you'll smash my sad effort, BUT I'm flying the flag for the amateurs. :)
Just now, May 2024, stumbled across this video. Thank you, what a huge help conceptually.
Glad it helped!
Thank You Very Much For Sharing 👍 🇯🇲
Awesome, useful tips...
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for your very educational videos !!👍🏻
Glad you like them! It's our pleasure!
you're a very good teacher
Thank you!
Great video
more of these. as it puts it down to basic's that no one really talks about.
Just about to film some 😁
Nice format, its a more detailed and a longer explanation when theres the practice element or a learner involved.
Re: the last bit when you spoke about this being the same technique for adventure bikes- does the leg out element still apply for larger bikes? If not, where the line as to which bike it does or doesnt apply?
Sometimes yes and sometimes no. I think the line for is always the same. It depends on if the bike is in the way. The more lean you have the harder it is to keep your feet on the pegs 😊
Great tips! Love watching your videos a few times to really let the wisdom sink in. Thanks for posting!! 💪🔥
Thanks a lot !
Great approach to helping us learn. Off to practice…
You can do it!
Great tutorial
Cheers Charlie!
I saw the thumbnail and thought "oh, he's go a pro motocrosser in to demo"
PS, I've always felt like the foot forward is to weight the front. I find it particularly useful if I'm sliding the rear, either a big speedway slide, or even just trying to square off a corner.
I've heard this a few times and I'm not sure either way. I'd say that ideally you don't want to take your foot off the pootpeg at all. I also notice that for a lot of people there foot going out makes their head go backward do to lack of hamstring flexibility which negates the foot putting weight on the front wheel.
It seems plausible but I'm not sure on the net effect vs other problems if that makes sense! Great comment!
@@BrakeMagazine I'm not sure either. It could just as easily be that I put the foot out, think it helps, that gives me the confidence to use the throttle aggressively, that gets me the side I want, and that reinforces the idea that the foot out helps.
It's very easy to fool yourself.
Beatiful instructional video, what camera are you using?
Canon R6
@@BrakeMagazine Thank you👍🏻
Very nicely done. Does this also apply for midsized adventure bike s. I bought a himalayan.with the purpose to do some offloading. Or are these too heavy?
Great question! The theory works the same on all bikes but the challenge comes in the riding position. The Himalayan isn't really designed for off-road riding positions, so the seat doesn't let you get to a middle position, the handlebars are a bit high and so on. It will work, but it won't be ideal.
Hope that helps!
@@BrakeMagazine thanks. I can sit up to the tank..so fairly on top of the footpegs..I will.practice on my land and let you know how it all goes after a while.
Wait till she finds out you might be "day"😜... Love your videos, excellent information.
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4:45 t-rex ... if you're happy and you know it, clap your.... oh
This was good, and very helpful. I was in the same state as Lucy in the summer, and learned the beginnings of dirt bike cornering up at Sweet Lamb (am I allowed to say that here?). I’m still practicing, but it’s fun. Les
Thanks a lot for this video! I really like the content you are producing. Lucy is doing a fantastic job reflecting on what shlearns and the corrections help to focus on the key elements. Did you mean ua-cam.com/users/RyanHughesMX mentioning Ryan? Keep up the good work!
Hello , great tutorial!
Does the same principles apply to heavier (dual sport) bikes also ?
Yes, kind of. The main issue with bigger bikes is being in the middle of the bike. Normally the seat is behind the footpegs.
很实用。感谢分享。
Do you do 1 to 1 training at ORS Llewelyn? Due to arthritis and a spinal injury riding is more tricky.
I was taught that pushing forward on the bar initiates the turn, not down. Push right go right, push left go left. Try it, you'll see.
On the road. Not off road. The problem with counter steering off road is the lack of subtlety and how it weights the tyre.
Try it, you'll see.
Feet always on the pegs while cornering, never out. The exception being in technical terrain where you need to dab. If you must put your leg out, that leg needs to be high, pointed to the front fender, and as close to the front fender as you can raise your foot.
I agree, except on flat corners you can't lean a bike far enough without moving a leg. You also can't lean it far enough if you're trying to stick your leg near the front wheel.
That technique is for rutted or bermed corners.
You mention to push down on the bar to steer the bike, so how does counter steering factor into this which you would do on a road bike?
It doesn't. Counter steering is quite imprecise and aggressive with the tyre of road and not a technique we use to control the direction of the bike. Using the footpeg and small downward pressure on the handlebar is a lot subtler and allows for small or large inputs.
I am a little confused. I am not a dirtbike rider (mostly paved and easy gravel), but pushing down on a handlebar are not a way to turn a bike. Pushing forward is the way to do it. Is it different on a dirtbike and really offroad?
Yes, it's very different. Counter steering still works but it's very aggressive for off road riding. It also requires you user body to be in the incorrect position.
We do not use it at all off road but do use it on road.
Foot forward, leg straight, toe in provides a meaningful weight transfer toward the front wheel, improving traction in fast cornering. Dangling your foot off the peg is something entirely different, and doesn't do a thing.
dznnf7 That's what I was taught, shifts the centre of gravity forward and helps to stop the front wheel washing out.
Given the weight of the leg is off the inside of the wheel, with the bike leant in towards it, the weight transfer doesn’t make sense from a physics standpoint. Your body is on the outside of the seat trying to stay centred over the mass, so weight hanging to the inside of that surely reduces the effect?.
Great 🥇 💎💪🏽😉
Thanks Emma!
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l paved people who talk rubbish !!! Usually ride like rubbish, you don't just go out and ride and become an expert simply because you can not execute what you haven't learnt , try writing an exam you did not study for and you'll see your results it will be the same as your riding skills so if yo ain't have any thing good to say just zipp it alert the experts do their thing paavey rocks😎
Well said! :)
The guy proves a point .... If you can teach a woman.... You can teach anyone.
the problem for me is that when i sit really close to the front i feel difficult to operate the rear brake, bcz the rear brake lever positioned high, so when i sit toward the front my toes are pointing slightly downward making it unnatural to reach the brake lever. any tips for that?
Yeah for sure that is difficult. You have to lift your foot up off the lever and place it on the rear brake. It takes some practice but you'll get there Norman!
Downshift more and use more front brake can also help in some spots.
It's the intergluteal cleft.
This is probably my favourite comment of all time. 😂
Its hard to teach this stuff, you have to feel what the bike is doing, know how & when to weight footpegs. Practice is the best. I just did an dual sport ride last week and realized I didn't practice enough this summer. After doing 80 miles single track, I noticed how much more comfortable I was in the dirt. Best investment is to spend money on tires and gas...get as much seat time as you can. Good job! Cheers!
No doubt! I think it needs to be purposeful though. Plenty of people do a lot of riding in their lives without thinking about it and don't improve. :)
nice bangs
She laughed 😂
When is Lucy going to be back on the channel singing and playing again?
ua-cam.com/video/OHl9TfRDYwk/v-deo.html
She's back now, but won't be singing until the next travel film. 😂
If we're talking about body positions anyway: when your girlfriend is standing, like just on her feet, looking at you, she's leaning on one leg, her pelvis is tilted and her hip joint is taking all the weight. Women do this alot. That's not a good thing.
Can you explain more?
@@BrakeMagazine Sure. At 3:02 you see her standing with the right leg bent and forward.The left leg seems straight, because it takes al the body weight. Her pelvis is tilted lateraly, it goes up to the left. She is hanging in her left hip joint in stead of dividing the weight evenly on her 2 legs. You can see she's in a very relaxed but anatomically bad position. This will cause problems in the long run.
It could just be because she's tired, but if she does this frequently it can cause neck and back issues. Her whole posture is a bit off, she looks a bit bow shaped.
Yeah flat corners...
I was expecting a bikini, where's the bikini
Under her riding kit 🤣
Enjoy part of your videos, but find that you love talking too much!! Talk less and show more!
Nope😂
Want. She's much too pretty to be your gf.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll make being better looking my 2022 New Year's Resolution