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  • Minister for Women and Equalities Kemi Badenoch has said she wants a personal apology from David Tennant, following his call for her to 'shut up'. Why are celebrities so determined to get involved in politics? How has trans ideology changed the face of pride? Comedian and broadcaster Andrew Doyle joins The Spectator's Lukas Degutis to discuss.
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  • @FindThisArtist
    @FindThisArtist 3 місяці тому +323

    “When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.” - Thomas Sowell

    • @snelgrave101
      @snelgrave101 3 місяці тому +18

      I've never disagreed with a single thing Mr Sowell has ever said, he's always on point.

    • @TheAlwaysPrepared
      @TheAlwaysPrepared 3 місяці тому +2

      @@snelgrave101 🤣🤣🤣 He doesn`t have a cloue about healthcare. Not one.

    • @Jizzlewobbwtfcus
      @Jizzlewobbwtfcus 3 місяці тому +3

      If there was an alternate universe where the GREAT Thomas Sowell was head of the WEF I would GLADLY support him still :D

    • @snelgrave101
      @snelgrave101 3 місяці тому +3

      @@TheAlwaysPrepared I haven't heard him on the subject, to be fair Most of the stuff I've heard from him is usually about racism and the fabled white privilege, the thing is he's human like the rest of us, we can't be expert at everything (although some people think they are) , if I see any videos of him with healthcare though I will be sure to watch 👍

    • @gloriathomas3245
      @gloriathomas3245 3 місяці тому

      You like Christians who complain about being persecuted?

  • @jkkjeldsen8249
    @jkkjeldsen8249 3 місяці тому +414

    Well said, Andrew. Tennant was disgusting. I feel sorry for his daughter.
    "Non-binary means "Look at me! Look at me! I want attention!"--Douglas Murray

    • @herbertlongfellow7702
      @herbertlongfellow7702 3 місяці тому +22

      It's his son he claims is non- binary

    • @afctaylor12
      @afctaylor12 3 місяці тому +2

      I think it's bit sad that member of parlement is having pop shots at a actor. You don't bunch down regardless what they say. It just look weak little class

    • @Bobmudu35UK
      @Bobmudu35UK 3 місяці тому +47

      ​​@@afctaylor12I remember when the left would rage at a privileged man telling a minority woman to shut up.
      He's a hypocrite.

    • @elkpaz560
      @elkpaz560 3 місяці тому +15

      @@herbertlongfellow7702 If he claims its his son does that mean its his daughter. In any case to be one of 5 children and the child of two performers, it must be a challenge to get attention.

    • @patriciasanderson2171
      @patriciasanderson2171 3 місяці тому

      I agree. She should have at the most just given a very vague statement saying that she does not engage on social media with people in the entertainment industry regarding such issues. It is pathetic that she brought her colour and his into it. As does the left. Thank God the Tories are going, they’re a shower of shite.

  • @patrickcrowther9195
    @patrickcrowther9195 3 місяці тому +106

    I think a much more worthy festival would be to celebrate people like Andrew Doyle and Douglas Murray who don't deny their sexuality but don't make it the be-all and end-all of who they are. And more importantly who make extremely pertinent and significant contributions to our culture. That really is worth celebrating.

    • @Ralstro
      @Ralstro 3 місяці тому +13

      Or we could just treat them as fellow human beings because who you are attracted to is completely irrelevant to what you say or do.

    • @patrickcrowther9195
      @patrickcrowther9195 3 місяці тому +4

      @@RalstroThat would be great.

    • @Ralstro
      @Ralstro 3 місяці тому +5

      @@patrickcrowther9195 Cheers, Patrick. We can agree that they are two great men who raise the level of debate. We need many more like them, and quick.

  • @Manic.miner2077
    @Manic.miner2077 3 місяці тому +85

    Mr Doyle took the words right out of my mouth.
    I’m a moderate, I’m accepting, tolerant, respectful and patient.
    But I’m done with being insulted for not 100% agreeing with this insane ideology.

    • @KevinBaker-i4r
      @KevinBaker-i4r 3 місяці тому

      Gay Communists these people me thinks

  • @ruthcookeinthetradition
    @ruthcookeinthetradition 3 місяці тому +73

    The more I see of Andrew Doyle the better my opinion of him becomes. Sane, balanced, measured, and intelligent....would there were more like him around!

  • @siblej1
    @siblej1 3 місяці тому +240

    Celebs like Tennant are the reason I don’t watch tv or movies anymore

    • @annabizaro-doo-dah
      @annabizaro-doo-dah 3 місяці тому +16

      Oh I know. It's so depressingly predictable. Absolutely zero creativity anymore.

    • @tchocky71
      @tchocky71 3 місяці тому +19

      I never thought there would be a time when I wouldn't want to watch David Tennant.

    • @geekylove3603
      @geekylove3603 3 місяці тому

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

    • @MichelleDavis-xk8rc
      @MichelleDavis-xk8rc 3 місяці тому +1

      No one cares

    • @EasyTiger.01343
      @EasyTiger.01343 3 місяці тому +2

      No TV or movies! So Brave 🔥 What’s even left…

  • @moffattF
    @moffattF 3 місяці тому +54

    I think we are fed up with politicians who are full of it. Nothing to do with racism it misogyny. But Tenant has opened himself up to ridicule and disrespect.

  • @KaisaPauliina-v6z
    @KaisaPauliina-v6z 3 місяці тому +61

    In Helsinki Finland they had a pride-march last weekend and I saw photos with both pride-flags and lots of palestinian flags too.. For some reason they did not bring any Finnish flags along.. 🤪
    I don't know what "the pride" is, but it is definitely not about gay rights anymore.. 🥴

    • @DK-yq5nx
      @DK-yq5nx 3 місяці тому

      Pride march is no longer about gay rights. It’s a parade of gender exhibitionists and fetish. The idea of the rainbow flag flying alongside a Palestinian flag does my brain in. The cognitive dissonance is astounding. Homosexuals wouldn’t last 10 minutes in Gaza or anywhere else in the Palestinian Territories.

    • @Woke_Invaders
      @Woke_Invaders 3 місяці тому +4

      @@KaisaPauliina-v6z It's cultural colonialism.

    • @agiksf.8998
      @agiksf.8998 2 місяці тому

      One of the 7 deadly sins. That's what it is.

  • @mizvitko8109
    @mizvitko8109 3 місяці тому +106

    Celebrities should "shut up" about pretty much everything.

    • @marimota5083
      @marimota5083 2 місяці тому +3

      @@mizvitko8109 agree, they don't live in the real world

    • @FraserMitchell-k4j
      @FraserMitchell-k4j 2 місяці тому +3

      I agree. When I hear a celebrity going on, especially the woke variety I just think, consider the source.

  • @2862WU
    @2862WU 3 місяці тому +26

    As Barry Norman said regarding John Wayne "Why does anyone care what he thinks? He's just an actor!".

  • @RufusToots420
    @RufusToots420 3 місяці тому +60

    "So over the Rainow"
    -Kelly Jay Keane

    • @elkpaz560
      @elkpaz560 3 місяці тому

      A Judy Garland allusion?

  • @leanneclare3750
    @leanneclare3750 3 місяці тому +57

    Well said Andrew!

  • @irisElee
    @irisElee 3 місяці тому +41

    Andrew is 100% correct. ❤

  • @NualaAhern-d5g
    @NualaAhern-d5g 3 місяці тому +252

    Yes he did really mean that women should shut up .the trans movement is misogynistic

    • @bubbaliburtee8657
      @bubbaliburtee8657 3 місяці тому +21

      I've been saying that for years

    • @ktwashere5637
      @ktwashere5637 3 місяці тому +19

      he has made no further comment, no "actually although I disagree with Kemi Badenoch, the words i chose were inappropriate. It is not right to tell a woman she should shut up and i apologise for that. However, I continue to support the trans community" Clearly he thinks he was in the right. It absolutely beggars belief. This is someone whose career has been built by the support of female fans and he has stabbed them in the back.

    • @geekylove3603
      @geekylove3603 3 місяці тому +1

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

    • @peterjermey7235
      @peterjermey7235 3 місяці тому +1

      In the context he was clearly talking about Badenoch in her capacity as minister against equalities, but only for one more day and then we can be free of this awful awful government

    • @marie0030
      @marie0030 3 місяці тому

      So should all women just keep their mouths shut when being raped and assaulted? David Tennant has 4 other daughters, is he not bothered about their safety and wants them to keep their mouths shut.! 🤔

  • @liquidusblue
    @liquidusblue 3 місяці тому +170

    Tennant is talentless. He is also lying to his son. Fed up of the "Be Kind... OR ELSE" lot.

    • @ph8077
      @ph8077 3 місяці тому +26

      I'd like to interview him in 10 years to see how that decision turned out

    • @liquidusblue
      @liquidusblue 3 місяці тому +18

      @@ph8077 exactly, I think we will look back on this period of history in 20-30 years time with almost as much shame as we do with eugenics (which everyone was practicing to some degree early 1900s). Asking ourselves, what did we do? What did we permit to be done? I know this pales in comparison as often it is voluntary (nobody is forced) but there is a lot of peer pressure and spin on it especially for impressionable youth who are easily swayed and have hormones everywhere. My niece decided to be a 'boy' for about 2 years, no surgery luckily but she passed through it.

    • @drunkenhobo5039
      @drunkenhobo5039 3 місяці тому +19

      Remember how celebrities used to adopt a black kid to show off? Notice how that doesn't happen any more, they all have trans kids?
      I'm sure it's not just a Hollywood fashion statement though, that would be absurd.

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 3 місяці тому +14

      @@liquidusblue I wanted o be a "girl " for a couple of years or so back in the 1960s. I shudder to think what would have happened to me if the mutilation child groomers had been around then .

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 3 місяці тому

      @@drunkenhobo5039 I wonder what the next "must have " kid will be for these vacuus shallow sheep .

  • @JaneHollandAuthor
    @JaneHollandAuthor 3 місяці тому +163

    That superior misogynist gesture accompanying the words 'shut up' aimed at a woman ...

    • @reliableandrew
      @reliableandrew 3 місяці тому

      No…that would be you being hypersensitive to any male gesture or utterance that addresses the female in less than glowing terms.
      If ‘shut up’ and the same gesture was made to a male you’d hardly call it ‘misandry’ or something like that would you?
      Feminists like yourself excel in muddying the waters…it’s probably best in the long run that you come to terms with the fact that not all men over-value or prioritise the female or her ’concerns’.🌿

    • @feliciagiancotti7857
      @feliciagiancotti7857 3 місяці тому +29

      @@JaneHollandAuthor I was thinking the exact same thing, the catch cry of any abusive man “didn’t want to hurt her, I just wanted her to shut up”
      He’s waving his red flag of misogyny.

    • @kimsherlock8969
      @kimsherlock8969 3 місяці тому

      Smart observation 👌
      Shut up or you will wear
      A torturers punishment invented when it was ok to beat your wife and children .
      The Scolds Bridal to hold your tongue and shut up.

    • @banedon8087
      @banedon8087 3 місяці тому

      I keep seeing this kind of argument. You're missing the greater point: It's not about you being a woman / a woman saying it, it's an ideology that despises actual feminism and actual masculinity and the binary and differences that exists there. It wishes to homogenise us like a new packet of plasticine being mushed, taking the bright vibrant colours and reducing them down to a miserable brown-green homogeneous sludge. They wish to do this on all fronts, ethnicity included. The people who drive this say that they wish diversity but all the while to seek to remove all differences.
      As for being told to shut up on this subject: Women although getting a lot of resistance, get to speak louder than *men who oppose this* I can assure you of that.

    • @Broatch6
      @Broatch6 3 місяці тому

      As if it’s all her fault . Pathetic bullying from a woke dope.

  • @ktwashere5637
    @ktwashere5637 3 місяці тому +30

    David Tennant has appalled me over this. How does he not see that others are being harmed by this. And if he thinks people should be free to be what they are, then how does he explain the trans activists attacks on lesbian groups. Lesbians and Gay men are entitled to choose to have sexual partners that are of the same sex. Heterosexual people are entitled to say they choose someone they opposite sex.
    who are the trans community to tell the rest of us how to live our lives.

  • @lynclarke6184
    @lynclarke6184 3 місяці тому +101

    Tenant behaved appallingly. He should publicly apologise to that woman.

    • @Jizzlewobbwtfcus
      @Jizzlewobbwtfcus 3 місяці тому +11

      He won't because he's a coward. Says he would like her to no exist but then tries to back track saying he wishes her no harm LMAO.
      How does wishing someone to be snuffed from existence not equate to harm? The guy is a clown.

    • @beunothatyouknow
      @beunothatyouknow 3 місяці тому +3

      @@lynclarke6184 He said she shouldn't exist and stop talking, let that sink in

    • @comparethequeercat
      @comparethequeercat 3 місяці тому +1

      @@lynclarke6184 And she should apologize to every trans person in the country, yet here we are.

    • @gemlouise1260
      @gemlouise1260 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@comparethequeercatfor what? For knowing what a womb is?

    • @scottbuchanan9426
      @scottbuchanan9426 2 місяці тому

      @@comparethequeercat ?

  • @fraserreal8496
    @fraserreal8496 3 місяці тому +20

    "Shoehorned in at the behest of a high priest". That's a great description.

  • @mariaf4396
    @mariaf4396 3 місяці тому +42

    so, david tennant is saying to his son that his feelings are more important than the rights, safety and privacy of his daughter. i wonder if he tells his daughter to "shut up" when she voices her opinion on the rights of women

    • @brandyhaywood6256
      @brandyhaywood6256 3 місяці тому

      It's his biological daughter I think.

    • @helenromanelli2544
      @helenromanelli2544 3 місяці тому

      Doubtless she knows better than to even speak in the first place. Maybe he has her wear a burka. ..

    • @helenromanelli2544
      @helenromanelli2544 2 місяці тому

      She wouldn't dare .

  • @kennethrichardson8311
    @kennethrichardson8311 3 місяці тому +44

    Perhaps Tennant could be useful and speak out against the Muslim men who kicked and punched to the ground the two young lesbian girls in Halifax, Canada. The LGBT Queers for Palestine alliance should sort their priorities out.

  • @Rosebud100
    @Rosebud100 3 місяці тому +114

    Lawrence Fox was cancelled and sacked from GBN for an insult towards a woman - who had used the same insult against a man ( but that’s okay, of course). So, shouldn’t calling for someone not to exist be taken a lot more seriously? We are talking about a lady who is known to the public. I think his comment is actually quite dangerous and could result in some nutcase attacking her.

    • @ktwashere5637
      @ktwashere5637 3 місяці тому +17

      its an absolute double standard.

    • @Englandforever11
      @Englandforever11 3 місяці тому

      Lawrence fox is a misogynist piggy. He had the perfect opportunity to take what she said, which was disgusting, and get her sacked, but his misogyny raised to the service, and he flucked up the chance. He let everyone down.

    • @helenromanelli2544
      @helenromanelli2544 3 місяці тому

      Incitement? Yes! Hate speech? Definitely! Where are those lovely British bobbies with an arrest warrant for Tennnant?

    • @codinghusky5196
      @codinghusky5196 Місяць тому

      I believe both comments should be taken a lot LESS seriously.
      I mean, if we're going to make decisions and base all our actions in "what some nutcase could do", where would it end? What if he said "McDonald's is sh***" and some nutcase blew up a restaurant?
      My point is, we've gone way overboard with policing speech, regardless of who's speaking to whom. We started treating a childish "drop de***" statement same as if someone actually sh*t someone. Someone insulted someone, so effing what? there is a HUGE chasm between telling a woman she's "a dumb bi**o" and taking away her opportunities, denying her a job or destroying her career.
      I'm not defending anyone Personally here; but we've started taking one snapshot out of someone's life, one statement, said under a certain set of circumstances; and judging their WHOLE LIFE and their whole MORAL ETHOS on it. Just because someone made a mysogynist or whatever statement, doesn't immediately make them an actual mysogynist. Just like telling someone "drop dead" isn't a death threat, nor does it mean the person is a murderer.
      Everyone needs to bloody relax . And before you flame me - I'm a woman.

    • @Rosebud100
      @Rosebud100 Місяць тому

      @@codinghusky5196… perhaps a lady who can’t spell or write properly… However, you have made a good point.

  • @matthewlennard8697
    @matthewlennard8697 3 місяці тому +26

    Andrew Doyle do not so easily dismiss Tennant's "doesn’t exist anymore" comment, as just a quip. I know I found it truly shock and abhorrent, and I wasn't directed at me, I can only guess how it was received by Kemi Badenoch MP.

    • @hotdog1214
      @hotdog1214 2 місяці тому

      Agreed, it was in no way a quip, it wasn't witty or humorous, it had rather sinister undertones, evidenced by the fact he quickly corrected by saying he meant no actual harm to come to her. I think it was meant as many, including Kemi Badenoch herself, have interpreted it to be...
      There's also clips of him being interviewed on the red carpet at the same event where he is quite venomous as he angrily calls women who speak out "whinging little fkrs". Lovely.

  • @zoefree3950
    @zoefree3950 3 місяці тому +20

    Seeing some of these pride events from around the world with the nudity,bondage, whipping etc it appears more like a freak circus 🤷‍♀️

  • @angelotuteao6758
    @angelotuteao6758 3 місяці тому +15

    Brilliant Andrew - you’re doing fantastic work in this space 🙏

  • @dovestar395
    @dovestar395 3 місяці тому +110

    We should call for the separation of the progress (gender ideology) flag and the traditional rainbow pride flag. They have been conflated and LGB’s should fight for their traditional flag.

    • @arther4tuyn443
      @arther4tuyn443 3 місяці тому +17

      Agreed, ditch the "Progress" flag and bring back the rainbow 🌈

    • @vondoom2876
      @vondoom2876 3 місяці тому

      Fuck the rainbow

    • @vondoom2876
      @vondoom2876 3 місяці тому +15

      Until I see corporations and governments flying a nuclear family pride flag. And have a family pride parade month. Then it is an exclusive and exclusionary celebration.

    • @lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559
      @lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 3 місяці тому

      No one's sexuality should be celebrated on a national scale. It's narcissistic and creepy.

    • @ktwashere5637
      @ktwashere5637 3 місяці тому

      the LG community should never have allowed the trans community to attach themselves to the LG cause. They are in complete opposite to each other.

  • @calphurniafanshawe
    @calphurniafanshawe 3 місяці тому +29

    The more obscure actors become, the more woke they become.

  • @KaisaPauliina-v6z
    @KaisaPauliina-v6z 3 місяці тому +47

    I am Finnish and I stopped watching any western entertainment about 5 years ago.. It is all filled with indentity politics without any genuine storylines or writing. So I am mostly watching Japanese and Korean content now. Be it comedy or drama.. And just praying they won't jump on to this same train even some of the western audiences are trying to push them into it.

    • @robertcook9201
      @robertcook9201 3 місяці тому +8

      Agreed. So many modern films are like being lectured by a deceitful social engineer. Tediously predictable.

    • @maryanne6569
      @maryanne6569 3 місяці тому +13

      Agree. It is a relief watching Korean series. No insufferable smugness, less crudity, less self-conscious, STORIES.

    • @saturupiah5940
      @saturupiah5940 3 місяці тому +1

      Sounds like a good idea.
      Where do you find these Korean programs?
      I have only heard good things about them.

    • @Vickzq
      @Vickzq 3 місяці тому

      @@saturupiah5940
      Try sites like _kissasian._

    • @maryanne6569
      @maryanne6569 3 місяці тому +1

      @@saturupiah5940 I tried to recall the last one I watched. I think it was just called Spys. Anything popular should be good. Lots of action, romance, a bit cheesy, a bit unbelievable sometimes,but honestly fun and exciting.

  • @annabizaro-doo-dah
    @annabizaro-doo-dah 3 місяці тому +7

    Absolutely fantastic interview. So refreshing to hear someone who tells it like it is AND in such an articulate and forthright way.👏🏻👏🏻💯

  • @patrickcrowther9195
    @patrickcrowther9195 3 місяці тому +28

    Doctor Who has a long history of politicised content. In the Jon Pertwee era of the early '70s there was more than one storyline involving all-powerful, corrupt bosses and the workers who had to organise and unite in order to prevail. But it was handled with a great deal more subtlety than the sledgehammer-weighted propaganda we see today. For gawd's sake, Davros would never have given a damn about pronouns.

  • @suninaries571
    @suninaries571 3 місяці тому +44

    Andrew please don’t make excuses for David Tennant, I didn’t know anything about this issue a year ago but I made it my business to educate myself. Apparently Mr Tennant has a non binary child, if so then I would have expected him to find out all he can on the subject.

    • @springwood1331
      @springwood1331 3 місяці тому +8

      Sure, he could've easily found out had he cared enough

    • @ktwashere5637
      @ktwashere5637 3 місяці тому

      he also has a daughter and presumably wants her to be safe in the school toilets (unlike the girls in a school in Essex with gender neutral toilets who were raped by a boy in the school) and to have opportunities to play sport.

    • @livelife5947
      @livelife5947 3 місяці тому +23

      Every celebrity has at least one LGBT kid. But that’s just a coincidence 👀.

    • @zorot3876
      @zorot3876 3 місяці тому

      So he is a child abuser as well as being a virtue signalling prat?

  • @russ6362
    @russ6362 3 місяці тому +31

    I agree, I’m gay and believe Pride is past it’s sell by date

    • @gaiopescatore
      @gaiopescatore 3 місяці тому

      I agree too. The original objectives of Gay Pride were to protest against discrimination, harassment and inequality, and to give closeted people a chance to come out in a supportive atmosphere. Those objectives have now largely evaporated, at least here in the UK and in most other civilised western countries. Pride, as it is now called, is simply a carnival, which gives various fetishists, exhibitionists and nutcases an opportunity to make pillocks of themselves in public. It is high time to ring down the curtain.

    • @KevinBaker-i4r
      @KevinBaker-i4r 3 місяці тому

      Be yourself,but Pride is a Communist Agenda to separate Gay people from their National heritage,and family,hence the rainbow flag,and the laughable Queers for Palestine,are those people deluded🤔

    • @karinefonte516
      @karinefonte516 2 місяці тому

      It's no longer about proving gays, lesbians and transexuals are common people who go by their lives like everybody else and deserve to be treated as equals in society. Now it's about making non-straight the ideal to be achieved, as some sort of superior life(form? style?) everybody should adhere and celebrate. It's mind boggling.

    • @thomasneal9291
      @thomasneal9291 2 місяці тому

      or you're simply too scared to stand up any more. I could understand that.

  • @davidsummer8631
    @davidsummer8631 3 місяці тому +60

    I worked with a gay person who gave up on pride years ago saying its becoming as a straight as a darts tournament

    • @RufusToots420
      @RufusToots420 3 місяці тому

      It's all about MAPs and men who want women's rights now.

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 3 місяці тому +6

      It is a young people thing

    • @JF-cd5hc
      @JF-cd5hc 3 місяці тому +5

      @@julianshepherd2038 "They would have all been hippies in the 60's and punks in the 80's." - Unknown

    • @ktwashere5637
      @ktwashere5637 3 місяці тому

      there was an article in the press over the weekend saying its been taken over by men in bondage gear and no longer represents the gay community. A lesbian group was turned away by the police because they wanted to have signs saying that they didn't like penises.

  • @williamvorkosigan5151
    @williamvorkosigan5151 3 місяці тому +98

    All those flags remind me of late 1930s Germany.

    • @adam7802
      @adam7802 3 місяці тому +19

      In Manchester I can't recall which road... but it's going up to Piccadilly Gardens. Last time I was going down there, these flags are on every lampost all the way down. It is literally like a scene from a war film.

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 3 місяці тому +2

      Or a royal wedding

    • @samuelgoddard2016
      @samuelgoddard2016 3 місяці тому

      If lgbtq++ or whatever it wants to call, it selfhave and if they all want to pride flag everywhere. They all should replace it with a rainbow swastika

    • @KatyYoder-cq1kc
      @KatyYoder-cq1kc 3 місяці тому +3

      That's the goal

    • @jonathonwearn1098
      @jonathonwearn1098 2 місяці тому

      Left wing fascism is here to stay.

  • @yossarian_lives
    @yossarian_lives 3 місяці тому +19

    Pride comes before a fall. Pride is the Original Sin.

  • @Olivia-io9sb
    @Olivia-io9sb 3 місяці тому +21

    I do hope Peter Tatchell is listening to this broadcast. I enjoy listening to Andrew Doyle's perceptive and intelligent assessment.

    • @helenromanelli2544
      @helenromanelli2544 3 місяці тому +1

      Tatchell would have to borrow or grow a brain first

    • @Olivia-io9sb
      @Olivia-io9sb 2 місяці тому

      @@helenromanelli2544 .... and a backbone.

    • @helenromanelli2544
      @helenromanelli2544 2 місяці тому

      You give Tatchell too much credit for comprehending nuance.

  • @Max-ht9hf
    @Max-ht9hf 3 місяці тому +17

    I've known from the outset the TQ was anti LBG they've destroyed the movement!

  • @sharonalbanese8084
    @sharonalbanese8084 3 місяці тому +11

    I love listening to Andrew Doyle, he is always very wise and full of common sense.

  • @lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559
    @lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 3 місяці тому +83

    Tennant's award ceremony was proof of what happens when the weirdos are given power - they turn into viscious bullies.

  • @teebeedahbow
    @teebeedahbow 3 місяці тому +67

    I'm not sure I agree with Andrew Doyle's point at the beginning. I am not sure Tennant was calling for Badenoch to be executed, as such, but I don't think there is an innocent or harmless way of hoping for someone 'not to exist'. You can see he chokes on it himself. But it is incoherent to say in one sentence that you look forward to the time someone doesn't exists and then claim you mean her no harm. It was an absolutely repulsive thing to say in public. Truly disgusting. Is this 'kindness' taught by hoping for someone not to exist?

    • @lizziestevenson1908
      @lizziestevenson1908 3 місяці тому +2

      It was metaphorical, not literal. It was in no way a call to execution ffs. I do not agree with tenant btw, just saying what he meant.

    • @teebeedahbow
      @teebeedahbow 3 місяці тому +10

      @@lizziestevenson1908 For what could wanting someone not to exist possibly be a metaphor ffs? I said quite clearly, that I didn't think it was an actual call for execution. Tennant doesn't have the balls for that, for a start...

    • @bilikfinke9197
      @bilikfinke9197 3 місяці тому +10

      Yep, he knew he had misspoken immediately after he said it, hence the qualification "I don't wish ill of her..." The audience constantly jabbering about genocide cheered and whooped from the first tho.

    • @teebeedahbow
      @teebeedahbow 3 місяці тому +3

      @@GioBruno2006 I'm afraid you are right.

    • @teebeedahbow
      @teebeedahbow 3 місяці тому +10

      @@bilikfinke9197 They certainly did. They certainly didn't hear any metaphor. 'Kill Terfs' is also not a metaphor.

  • @dirkvanschalkwyk1919
    @dirkvanschalkwyk1919 3 місяці тому +23

    I fully agree with Andrew's analysis. It is frustrating that most people's view the Critical Queer Theory captured LGBT etc movement as gays wanting more than the achieved equality. This is just lazy and is another huge win for Intersectionality, a pernicious ideology.

  • @mjones4083
    @mjones4083 3 місяці тому +72

    As a gay mam myself I 100% agree . The only phobia I witness is actually heterophobia .

    • @mjones4083
      @mjones4083 3 місяці тому +15

      Man not mam ! & may I also add I am always shocked at the ignorance of people (both gay & straight ) about what the wretched flag signifies now . Most still think it's gay , lesbian , bi with a bit of men dressing up as women thrown in and nothing more .

    • @lizziestevenson1908
      @lizziestevenson1908 3 місяці тому

      Personally, i couldnt give a sh!t what it means. It changes every week​ and its soooo boring Just accept who you ardxand leave the rest of us the fck alone. @@mjones4083

    • @Simplesimple123
      @Simplesimple123 3 місяці тому +11

      @@mjones4083 actually homophobia has increased beyond what it used to be and this rainbow soup is probably the cause . . However let’s not dismiss homophobia is rife .. the whole gender ideology we are discussing generally is homophobic and misogynistic

    • @Broatch6
      @Broatch6 3 місяці тому +2

      Most people are just not that bothered what other people get up to in the bedroom.
      So there’s really not that much homophobia around. In the real world that is. The MSM talk a lot of nonsense on this subject and on race and on gender.

    • @zaydeshaddox7015
      @zaydeshaddox7015 3 місяці тому

      @@Broatch6 remember, "the real world", as you put it, is not just the Western world. China, Russia and Iran have completely outlawed LGBT, it's already been outlawed in North Korea, African nations generally have an unkind view of homosexuality, Jamaica is extremely homophobic, it's not accepted AT ALL in Muslim cultures... there are LOTS of places on this planet where homophobia is the norm.

  • @sandrastewart2450
    @sandrastewart2450 3 місяці тому +46

    Were sick of having to lisen to pride

    • @johnl5316
      @johnl5316 3 місяці тому +11

      we gay people are tired of 'pride'

    • @veratibbs7361
      @veratibbs7361 3 місяці тому +3

      @@johnl5316I dread the holy month of Pride.

    • @Coelacanth1
      @Coelacanth1 2 місяці тому

      Then don't listen, for you do have a choice, you've always had a choice

  • @huskymad
    @huskymad 3 місяці тому +24

    How do you decide that a primary school child is 'non binary' (especially as there is no such thing) ? Did the child watch an episode of Thomas the Tank Engine while holding a Barbie doll, I mean seriously, how does a primary school child communicate this nonsense?

    • @pollyparrot9447
      @pollyparrot9447 3 місяці тому

      He doesn't. His celebrity mummy and daddy tell him that he can't call himself a boy if he is going to flounce around and behave in ways that are not stereotypically boyish. They tell him that he must be some other gender, then they go off and tell all their celebrity pals that they too have their very own Beautiful, Brave and Stunning. A trans child is the latest celebrity accessory.

  • @robkeeleycomposer
    @robkeeleycomposer 3 місяці тому +13

    Love Andrew’s clarity of thought.

  • @catherinewilkins2760
    @catherinewilkins2760 3 місяці тому +21

    Quite right, gay pride has had its day. Now just mainstream. Would like to see special days and months done away with. There should be a return to normal commemoration days.

    • @Coelacanth1
      @Coelacanth1 2 місяці тому

      It's not gay pride anymore for we've won their fight for them, now we fight for all the others who haven't yet been graced with the liberation the gay folk have

  • @tc6758
    @tc6758 3 місяці тому +7

    The first problem is that we are tolerating abusive ad hominem attacks rather than insisting on reasoned debate and polite disagreement. Secondly, while Tennant is perfectly entitled to criticise Kemi Badenoch's views; he is not entitled to take away her human right to have views and express them. Amplifying this is the gendered nature of the attack - because women are routinely told to shut up, be silent, not to talk too much and be listeners (to male views). Inside the average mixed sex classroom you can see this in action. Research shows that teachers spend far more time (two-thirds more) with boys, asking them more questions, providing more feedback and allowing them to interrupt more. They push boys to think critically while praising girls for being quiet and neat. It's even worse if you're a black girl, because then you're not just subjected to this closet misogyny but are also criticised for being disobedient, defiant and difficult.
    This ultimately translates into criticism of adult women in the workplace for being 'assertive'. While assertiveness in men is seen as good, assertiveness in woman makes them 'strident', difficult and unlikeable. Women are routinely talked over or ignored in so many contexts, they see it as normal and begin self-silencing. This means decisions, ideas and analysis don't have the benefit of a female perspective and so are frequently not optimal. It affects relationships between men and women as well, with members of both sexes unable to have reasonable discussions with one another.
    So I appreciate Andrew Doyle's thoughtful comments on this, but it's worse than suggested. Tennant's comments are part of a misogynistic playbook that professional women are still subjected to and thus have much wider resonance than affecting just one, individual woman. The sniggering you heard at the event is the same disrespectful sniggering heard in classrooms and boardrooms when women speak up. It's boring, childish and counterproductive. So easy and popular to criticise the woman rather than criticising a man - why not say that you don't want Sunak to exist/shut up because he's the PM and he says you can't change sex? And then we have the problem of women being threatened with humiliation, loss of earnings/career, vi*lence and r*ape just for disagreeing with (some) men.
    Better communication would make the world better for everyone and teaching our kids how to communicate effectively, take turns, disagree in an acceptable way, develop listening skills and critical thinking, and debate politely are very important life skills not being adequately taught in UK state schools. These are skills, however, that Andrew Doyle displays throughout this interview which is why (irrespective of whether we agree or not) it's so nice to listen to him.

  • @stantheman5657
    @stantheman5657 3 місяці тому +5

    Always great to listen to Andrew Doyle
    He’s highly intelligent,very articulate and promotes free speech ,
    combined with common sense .

  • @jameslewis3296
    @jameslewis3296 3 місяці тому +8

    When showbiz people get too involved in politics trans matters the "silent majority" will refuse to watch them on TV and boycott their films and theatre performances

  • @shanefeather-lopez5935
    @shanefeather-lopez5935 3 місяці тому +22

    Last autumn I went to Manchester Pride for the last time ever. I was excited for the partying and opportunity to catch up with some old friends. I put on a camp outfit for the first time ever and took my good camera with me. I took about 5000 shots of the parade, and only when I went back through them did I realise the horrors within. It's turned into a sexual fetish freak show where they insist on it being family friendly and some of the parade participants were actual toddlers walking amongst fully grown men in leather dog masks and the like. Interspersed with brazen commercialism and 'the trans lot' I only ended up going on the one afternoon, going home early and not bothering with the rest of the long weekend.
    It's been ruined by the likes of Stonewall collecting new 'groups' of 'victims' to add to the alphabet soup and the silly flag, just to justify their own continued existence.

  • @marmadukegrimwig
    @marmadukegrimwig 3 місяці тому +8

    “The British LGBT Awards”… what the f**k is happening to this country…

  • @michaelgilday
    @michaelgilday 3 місяці тому +12

    Very well explained thanks Andrew Doyle.

  • @hrtdinasaurette3020
    @hrtdinasaurette3020 3 місяці тому +2

    People used to say “I don’t believe I’m qualified to comment”. Perhaps they need to start remembering that phrase occasionally.

  • @ellew486
    @ellew486 3 місяці тому +4

    Andrew, you speak such sense. You are a sane voice amid the trans madness. I am not gay but, as a woman, understand how many gay men and lesbians feel. Heterosexuals who yearn for victimhood (and publicising their fetishes!) have taken over Pride. I feel angry on your behalf that a once great show of gay camarederie has become a cringe-fest of queerness. Please, please, keep up your fantastic work.

  • @winstonsmith8240
    @winstonsmith8240 3 місяці тому +11

    Don't teenagers know everything? I used to .

    • @patrickcrowther9195
      @patrickcrowther9195 3 місяці тому +3

      So did I!

    • @jenzabel
      @jenzabel 3 місяці тому +1

      Me too! It's astounding to me that we are giving immature people this much power to influence anything other than music and fashion!

  • @hermitageboy
    @hermitageboy 3 місяці тому +12

    So agree with Andrew about the current state of tv drama,so woke driven

  • @curiositycloset2359
    @curiositycloset2359 3 місяці тому +29

    Im not sure why gay people would want the police wearing their flag? Being piggy in the middle doesnt seem like a good idea.

    • @ravenkeeper
      @ravenkeeper 3 місяці тому +4

      @@curiositycloset2359 There was a history of the police mistreating LGBT folk so this was an attempt at improving relationships between them and police.
      Problem is that attitude was at least two decades before this initiative. It's a meaningless and cheap gesture in the face of failure to do actual policing.

    • @RyanLongArt
      @RyanLongArt 3 місяці тому +3

      I don't. It is insulting at best.

    • @curiositycloset2359
      @curiositycloset2359 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ravenkeeper o, I understand what "they" say. But it also seems to be a large part of the state hiding behind gay bodies.
      I wouldn't put myself in that position. As said, there's a reason people refer to them as pigs. Being piggy in the middle, and for no pay, is a silly place to be.

    • @johnl5316
      @johnl5316 3 місяці тому

      @@ravenkeeper The group you mention does not exist. Ts have absolutely nothing to doe with as a gay man

    • @johnl5316
      @johnl5316 3 місяці тому

      Who ever said that all gay people want that? I don't and know no gay person who does. What a strange assumption that was

  • @jameslogan9134
    @jameslogan9134 3 місяці тому +9

    Everytime I see the Progress Pride flag I think oh there is the Fascist Alphabet flag. It has nothing to do with gay rights anymore.

    • @Coelacanth1
      @Coelacanth1 2 місяці тому

      So, the addition of recognition of trans, BAME and intersex voices makes it fascist does it, what's fascist about Trans, BAME and Intersex?

  • @mylesmacleod4306
    @mylesmacleod4306 3 місяці тому +5

    It strikes me as odd that there is any topic on which people's subjective feelings are given more weight than objective facts.

  • @MrA5htaroth
    @MrA5htaroth 3 місяці тому +9

    Thanks for my first lol of the day - "The least coveted award in the world" :-) hilarious!

  • @samuelgoddard2016
    @samuelgoddard2016 3 місяці тому +6

    I 100% agree with Andrew on this subject, I think pride is just too overdone/out stayed it's welcome, and sadly, it has very much become its own villain. Also, i don't like david tennant saying it's kk for man who identifies as woman to go into womens spaces and plausibly rape or unchange in front of these young girls or women just to flash at them or exposed themselves in front of these young girls / women, it's not kk in my books at all

  • @janeawdry8182
    @janeawdry8182 3 місяці тому +12

    David Tennant getting applause from the ‘LGBT community’ - phwoar look at the validation on that..

  • @musiqueetmontagne
    @musiqueetmontagne 3 місяці тому +8

    Tennant should be sentenced to prison and to share a cell for years with Nicolas Sturgeon. A suitable punishment for a comment like that. Who does he think he is? 🙈🙈🙈

  • @johnnunn8688
    @johnnunn8688 3 місяці тому +11

    It’s going to be hell for women, under Labour.

  • @kimj5037
    @kimj5037 3 місяці тому +3

    I'm all for celebrities speaking out. The more they do, the more they show how morally bankrupt they are. They do not deserve to be idolized.

  • @haroldb1856
    @haroldb1856 3 місяці тому +4

    Doctor Who is now Doctrine Who.

  • @patrickselden5747
    @patrickselden5747 3 місяці тому +5

    Well said, Andrew... ☝️😎

  • @helenromanelli2544
    @helenromanelli2544 2 місяці тому +1

    Always appreciate Doyle's measured and calm discussions of serious and complex issues. He is one of a dwindling few reasonable, rational adults in the room. He effectively put Tennsnt in ' time out'

  • @castlesteve1
    @castlesteve1 3 місяці тому +15

    Dr who the F does he think he is?

    • @ph8077
      @ph8077 3 місяці тому +4

      A celebrity....& as Gervais said "They know all about stuff like politics & science"

  • @JaneA544
    @JaneA544 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent interview, andrew doyle is erudite, respectful but pointed in his remarks, he is always an excellent listen, and thanks to the interviewer for a job well done

  • @cynthiajohnson9412
    @cynthiajohnson9412 3 місяці тому +1

    Hectored! Great word. And reflecting a very true statement. People don't like being hectored and they certainly don't want to pay for it in the process. And hectored perfectly describes the feeling. You can always count on Andrew Doyle to find just the right verb.

  • @richardmcneil6538
    @richardmcneil6538 3 місяці тому +2

    Good for you Andrew! Love you passion and your perspective! Keep talking!

  • @Ralstro
    @Ralstro 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm a heterosexual male and it sickens me that another man could find his way into a women's prison or lavatory just by claiming to be transgender.
    There was some such person on Camilla Tominey's programme a while back, claiming that he had certification to prove he was a woman and should be free to enter women only spaces. The arrogance, egotism and entitlement was breath taking.
    If he really did care about women's spaces he should accept the fact that, while he probably is no threat to women, others could well be. If he is allowed in the argument against other transgender claimants also entering are moot. This felt like misogyny to me as if he was saying I deserve to be here more than you, just look at the effort I've put in. SIngle sex spaces should be a biological issue.

  • @katiewalters2443
    @katiewalters2443 3 місяці тому +4

    A discussion including mr tennent himself would've been helpful

    • @Broatch6
      @Broatch6 3 місяці тому

      Not sure about that. When has a woke lefty dope ever admitted they’re wrong?? About anything ??

  • @kaymoto4023
    @kaymoto4023 3 місяці тому +2

    Not putting up with woke entertainment, boycotting ALL of it.

  • @emperorsnewclothes9405
    @emperorsnewclothes9405 3 місяці тому +24

    and the lgbtqui++ award for just getting on with their lives goes to...............

    • @NualaAhern-d5g
      @NualaAhern-d5g 3 місяці тому

      LGBTULTRAVIOLENT AND WHATEVER YOU'RE HAVING YOURSELF

  • @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry
    @Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry 3 місяці тому +1

    My out lesbian sister-in-law stopped going to the Toronto Pride parade back in the late 1990's. She came to the conclusion that it was no longer an organic expression of the gay community itself, but instead had been taken over by political and corporate interests that only wanted to use Pride either as a soapbox or as a cash register.

  • @maghurt
    @maghurt 3 місяці тому +1

    Andrew, thank you for the balanced view on Tennant and people like him. I don't want to demonize anyone, it's not who we "other," it's the "othering" that's a problem.

  • @quaintlyeccentric
    @quaintlyeccentric 3 місяці тому +1

    So much great information. Thank you Andrew.

  • @delideri3518
    @delideri3518 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Andrew Doyle!

  • @caroldixon3124
    @caroldixon3124 3 місяці тому +10

    More Andrew Doyle please

  • @carlosperaltamx
    @carlosperaltamx Місяць тому

    As a latino, sassy, fem, fervent homosexual I 100% agree with Andrew!

  • @stevenrussell9034
    @stevenrussell9034 3 місяці тому +10

    Let me say this emphatically. Tom Baker was the best Doctor Who. All the rest shouldn’t exist. 😁

    • @cameronkobe7838
      @cameronkobe7838 3 місяці тому

      Shouldn’t exist?? Nooo you’re not going to do Patrick Troughton dirty like that! 😊

    • @stevenrussell9034
      @stevenrussell9034 2 місяці тому

      @@cameronkobe7838 ha ha 🤣

  • @rayburke-xg8yr
    @rayburke-xg8yr 3 місяці тому +2

    The Tenant speech seems to be muted.

  • @stephfoxwell4620
    @stephfoxwell4620 3 місяці тому +22

    Sorry. What are we bring proud of?

    • @FindThisArtist
      @FindThisArtist 3 місяці тому +14

      God knows but it's a sad existence to ram it down everyone's throat year after year. It's just boring.

    • @ME24689
      @ME24689 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@FindThisArtistit's now a clown train.. 🙄 🤡

    • @mostevil1082
      @mostevil1082 3 місяці тому

      Fetishes mostly

    • @christinerussell113
      @christinerussell113 3 місяці тому +5

      Good question. I happen to be heterosexual, big deal. It is just a fact, and I do not feel the need to express pride or dismay as to my sexuality. Surely the whole point of equality for all, including in the matter of one's sexual preferences, is that it is not a matter of needing to either hide or display it. Just be everyone.

    • @Naren25
      @Naren25 3 місяці тому

      People who are not straight were made to feel ashamed for many, many years. The pride movement is about no-one being able to make you feel lesser just because of who you are.

  • @eileenspamer-kw3kz
    @eileenspamer-kw3kz 3 місяці тому +3

    even an insect can tell the diff between m/f

  • @iainbaker6916
    @iainbaker6916 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for voicing this. Far too few realise this. It has affected my family badly - I have lesbian/Bi step/daughters.

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker 3 місяці тому +2

    Pride has had its day.
    No kidding.
    Understatement city!

  • @belindafrisenda4306
    @belindafrisenda4306 3 місяці тому +1

    A BULLY CAN STILL BE POLITE
    A FEMINIST MAN CAN STILL BE
    SEXIST
    A KIND PERSON CAN STILL BE HORRIBLE....
    Well said Andrew 👏

  • @OdesCandour
    @OdesCandour 2 місяці тому +1

    Just for balance , my partner and I are both gay. We have attended many prides which does not indicate our permission , rather our deeply held belief that pride is ours and our visibility is important.

  • @johnl5316
    @johnl5316 3 місяці тому +8

    Doyle is going very easy on those psychos

  • @ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293
    @ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 2 місяці тому

    Andrew Doyle is a national treasure. The first time he came on my radar I then investigated him and immediately heard the Alice B Toklas genius bell tinkle. I recognised his genius immediately. He's an exceptional, unique, highly valuable individual. I think he's wonderful.

  • @angrytedtalks
    @angrytedtalks 2 місяці тому +2

    Actors: People who pretend to be someone they are not and memorise the dialogue written for someone who doesn't exist by someone who is inventing a narrative.
    The real David Tennant is a great actor, not a philosopher, physician or politician.

  • @FredHMusic-gr7nu
    @FredHMusic-gr7nu 3 місяці тому +1

    I was incredibly hyped for the 60th anniversary specials with David Tennant. I have been watching the show since 2005 and for the 10th doctor and Russell T Davies to return was super exciting. But I felt demoralised after that first special. Even though Jodie Whittaker’s tenure certainly wasn’t a highlight either (although there were some good things), for me, Tennant’s return killed Doctor Who for good.

  • @QueenAmethyst55
    @QueenAmethyst55 3 місяці тому

    Love listening to Andrew. He talks the truth.

  • @mujy12
    @mujy12 2 місяці тому +1

    Brilliant Andrew ❤

  • @GustavoJacob
    @GustavoJacob 3 місяці тому +1

    Nobody should shut up about anything.

  • @annal2740
    @annal2740 3 місяці тому +3

    Damn right, Andrew.

  • @dbiedler
    @dbiedler 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you.

  • @deal2live
    @deal2live 3 місяці тому +7

    Bridgetown had a truple!😂 also the 'fat' chick got the hot guy with abs!!! 😂😂😂😂

    • @sexyhomeowner9345
      @sexyhomeowner9345 3 місяці тому

      A truple, what's that? I've heard of 'throuple' though.