May Not Be Wise, But It Is Necessary
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Star Trek The Next Generation s03e23 Sarek
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RIP Mark Lenard. You are missed.
Sarek is such a great character. His resolute belief that he's OK but his willingness to investigate Picard's claims, his belief in his logic despite it deteriorating around him, his moments of clarity and flashes of mania, his determination to just get this last job done, it's all perfectly shown.
Yeah, I think he did it all on purpose for the ended result; I've never though of that notion, before.
0:54 notice how he startles his assistant!
Nice cutaway at the end
Those are all good actors
Very much so.
Sarek dummy THICC
When Sarek is himself he speaks with such quiet dignity. His calm certainty is more compelling than any raised voice. Too many actors play Vulcans as cold and rigid. Leonard Nimoy and Mark Lenard presented them as they should be, simply dispassionate.
Right. Nimoy in particular was very good at showing that the emotions Vulcans suppress don't disappear, they're right there, under the surface. To not let emotions control their actions isn't a matter of instinct, it's a matter of discipline, of controlling their impulses every second of every day.
There's a perception that Vulcans don't feel but in fact the opposite is true. They feel too much. A Vulcan who lets their emotions loose is more dangerous than a bloodthirsty klingon and in the ancient past their emotions almost led to their extinction by their own hands. Logic saved them.
Plot synopsis of the episode:
Sarek is at risk of becoming an embarrassador.
lol
“Illogical! illogical!”
get out
I love the way Sarek instantly knows Mendrossen is lying when he says Sakkath hasn't been reinforcing his emotional control.
Well, I mean, he is human.
Because Sakkath couldn't bring himself to answer.
I hate how both Mendrossen and Sarek's wife tried to ward off Picard as he investigated this claim, one of them even threatening him with his career.
As if Bendai Syndrom could not seriously cause a catastrophe during the diplomatic negotiations and/or tear the entire ship apart at the wrong moment.
@971Misguided loyalty and protectiveness. Perrin's is understandable, but Mendrossen should have known better. OTOH he's Sarek's chief of staff, so personal loyalty may be a big factor. But the role clearly called for an oily official to butt heads with Picard.
Notice at 0:53 when Sarek loses his temper his aid in the background tenses up.
You can visibly see him flinch and straighten up. Very good detail, one I hadn't noticed.
Interesting!
One of those oh crap moments 😂
I really enjoyed that detail, because it's revealed in the episode that the aide was using his own abilities to keep Sarek under control, or at least dampen his syndrome. So the aide probably felt Sarek's outburst and had to telepathically dampen it.
I like the little detail of how Sarek immediately believes Picard's claim after hearing his associate's staunch denial, not even wasting words on further verification but immediately asking Perrin whether she had known. Either it was the tone of voice that provided him with the last needed confirmation or he merely wanted to give his associate the opportunity to be sincere, or insincere and thereby disqualify himself. He clearly and predictably has great respect for and trust in Picard. (Well, he is an excellent diplomat. Both are.)
*Best of Trek.*
Also, when he said firing his assistant might be unwise, but is necessary, I would consider it possibly wise from a larger viewpoint, and that is why he considered it necessary. Basically, seeing the wisdom in having consequences for betrayal. He deceived him into misjudging his abilities and thereby endangered the mission, and since trust is a cornerstone of diplomatic negotiation, it was quite the offense.
I just hope Mendrossa gets the fucking boot. Sakkath at least tried to help the situation, Mendrossa tried to hide it which could have ended in catastrophe.
I don't believe Sakkath was "fired," Sarek just told him to stop meddling with his mind. And it was necessary for Sarek to prove to Picard that his mind was as sound as he believed it to be.
I watched this episode with my family when it originally aired, I was seven at the time.
I had watched reruns of TOS with my dad and knew Sarek from it (was confused as a kid by Mark Lenard also playing the Romulan) and his appearances in the TOS cast's movies.
As a kid, my dad had to explain to me that when people get older, they can lose control of their faculties like Sarek.
Now, my dad has dementia and my oldest brother has Parkinson's disease, he may develop dementia down the road.
This episode feels prophetic now. If I could, I would share the health of my faculties with my dad like Picard does with Sarek.
My dad has always taken care of all of us and worked two 20 year careers to provide for his family. Now that he should be enjoying his retirement years, his mind and his body are giving out on him.
I hate that there's nothing that can change what we know is coming.
I'm so sorry to hear that @MRF.
This scene between Picard and Sarek makes me cry every time.
I'm glad I'm not the only one!! Thanks for sharing your emotional response!!
Sarek had always come across as the epitome of a Vulcan -- rational, dispassionate, calm and dignified. For long-time Trekkers seeing him like this was truly painful.
Poor Sakkath gets fired in front of everybody.
He wasn't "fired," Sarek just told him to stop messing with his mind. That was never an official part of his job description.
Sakkath was just told that he didn't have the makings of a varsity athlete.
Something I missed out on when first watching this scene is that Sakkath was just told to stop. When he advises that stopping would not be wise you could interpret Sareks response as a logical conclusion of realizing he needs to see just how bad (or how much control) he actually is. No longer angry with him he needs to know if he can actually stand by himself. His only assurance right now is that Picard doesn't trust him, but Picard is being honest. Which makes him the only one Sarek can trust to judge his mental well-being.
How do these clips get uploaded so fast? Do you have 7 hands?
Upload a heap of them and keep the settings private until they finish processing and then change the visibility to public.
@@Spacegoat92 wait, thats genius
@@aldrichdevourerofgods7630 That's how I do it, it also ensures you're able to publish the video in full hd, cos the video is usually published in standard definition straight away and then it gets updated to full definition later, depending on the size of the video.
@@Spacegoat92 Truth, I usually schedule them to come out every fifteen minutes so I can sort out the title and end screens etc for the later ones while the first ones are up, and I can read comments as I go :)
It's simple guys. He is fueled by lots of BEANS!
I wonder if Sarek secretly suspected how bad his condition truly was and used this opportunity to confront it.
I think so yes, there's certainly denial about it, but I think he suspected something was wrong, the irony was, his (and his aides & wifes) emotions stopped him from seeing it.
In my opinion, this stage of a mental deterioration is the most terrifying one. Because you know the person you've known is still in there somewhere, trapped in a limbo of lucidity and mania.
Absolutely; I think this was entirely the writer's purpose.
@@BladeZero238What's most terrifying is when the person suffering from it has moments when they realize it too.
Wise Sarek understood that Picard could have trolled him so hard. 😄
Picard would never troll anyone, let alone someone he so respected. But Sarek understood that to convince Picard that his mind was still sound, he had to remove Sakkath from the equation.
"Obey my wishes".
Don't try this with your spouse. TNR writers play fast and loose with technical jargon.
You heard me bitch. - Sarek
Bean dye disease? Give me your barbeque sauce, Captain, 😊
RIP mark Leonard
Did we just see a Vulcan lie? His aid denied that the other was keeping his mind stable, either he was was lying or was too inept to sense it.
Ki Mendrossan is human.
I don’t think a Vulcan could ever be that slimy
@@Smeginator Probably why he (and likely other prominent Vulcans) would hire a human on their staff.
So why did the Tamarians have a line about 'Sakkath, his eyes uncovered?'.
🎉Like the man who didn't know if he had the flu. Too busy sneezing and coughing to go to see a doctor. 😮
So how many kids DOES Sarek have?
Well, he's over 200 years old. Imagine how many loads one could blow in such a long period of time.
First, Sybok. Then, Spock. Finally, adopted Michael Burnham. 🖖
@@jeffw1267 I don’t think your balls work once you turn 100
biological 2 Michael? 3
@@jeffw1267 vulcans mate once every 7 years
Sakkath was just told that he did not have the makings of a varsity athlete.
Lol results won't be in for a few days
Let's see....how many pronunciations do we have so far? Bendy...Bandy...Ben-die.
Bean-dy
As a Ben, I don’t want to die
Now Captain, I will have more beans!
I miss well written shows like this.
Vulcans spend so much time ignoring their emotions, they never learned how to handle them.
@Steven Strain They could've learned to deal with them, even the most intense feelings can be controlled and coped with.
@@madcat789 Remember that the Romulans & Vulcans are cousins and that Star Trek, at the very core, is a story that some humans have written to teach us about ourselves. We all desire control. I think our only choice is whether to direct that desire inward for self-mastery or outward for conquest, and the question that flows from that is whether it's possible for people who choose the former to effectively defend themselves against people who choose the latter.
@@mfeltes Can't I do both?
@Steven Strain suppression is one thing volkins totally ignore all emotion not wanting a shred of emotion to get threw.
@Steven Strain And yet Romulans, an offshoot of the Vulcans, are able to live with their raw emotions as well as any Human could. Which raises the question, just what happened in the mere 5000 years since the Romulans left? Were Vulcans so intensely emotional before then, or did it come about afterward?
If the former, then surely Vulcans could have chosen a path similar to the Romulans in dealing with their emotions without suppressing them. If the latter, then the extreme emotional intensity is at most a 5000 year old trait and shouldn't be so deeply ingrained in their species.
Either way, there's another path available.
"Obey my wishes....go make me a sandwich"
Oh yeah, Vulcans kept their Women-folk in line!
They didn't just know the Vulcan Neck Pinch, but the Vulcan Pimp Hand too!
Actually, "Obey my wishes, stop protecting me from everything that could go wrong, and stop lying to me".
...with beans.
_If that is your sand-wish._
It’s a good episode, but it’s unfortunate that that they had to throw the character away on an Alzheimers Awareness plot
Mark Lenard's own physical health might've limited how frequently he could work. They might have had to make every appearance count. Keep in mind he died not long after the series ended, and in "Unification" he appeared more frail than he did here.