The problem with trailers feeling like they give away too much, is that they answer all the questions that are asked, without asking new ones. If the trailer does not leave any unanswered question it feels like there aren't any, regardless of the truth.
Exactly. This is why I see people who want the whole plot in the trailer as less intelligent, inferior minded people. An experience where your brain literally never has to think at all is what they want.
Seeing people as inferior or lacking intelligence, because of their trailer preferences, is hilarious. I’m not one of the people you’ve described but it wouldn’t make me less intelligent if I enjoyed spoilers lol. There’re intelligent people on both sides of the ballot
@@jijitterssome people work a lot and watch movies so they DONT have to use their brain for like an hour and a half or more before they have to start using it again 😭
"best jumpscares" implies that a jumpscare is what makes a horror movie good. If a horror movie trailer is filled with jumpscares, I am glad as I know not to waste my time on it. There won't be any real horror, and it will just be "booh! haha gotcha" trash.
@@BaltuxThis just in, people can like jumpscares. 😱😱😱 Not everyone jerks off their ego to psychological horror. Sometimes it's just fun to watch jumpscare horror. 😱😱
As someone who just LITERALLY WATCHED The Fall Guy today, I can guarantee you, they don't spoil SHIT in the trailer. Most of what was "spoiled" is introduced in the first act of the movie.
honestly the trailer is SO good having seen the movie. what seem like spoilers are infact, 100% hoodwinks. they dupe you into thinking you know, when you dont.
Yeah, I guess I never watched the three minute trailer, but the trailers that played before movies I didn't think had too many spoilers just some funny action scenes. I thought they were good trailers. I guess there was internet drama about this trailer, but it's definitely not one I'd pick.
My favorite lying trailer was Guardians of the Galaxy 2. The trailer made it seem that the big electricity monster was some final or climactic fight and it was the opening credits. We had no idea about the rest of the movie and it was great. I also agree that keeping the tone correct is important in keeping the rug pull effect away from audiences.
The rug pull effect is exactly why I would prefer a trailer reveal a bit more to me. I don't wanna go in expecting an action movie and get a shitty romcom. Lol
@-ThatGuy- exactly, I think the key is keep the biggest secrets and reveals a surprise but absolutely do not sell the movie as basically a different genre.. shouldn't be so difficult and yet.. 😅
See that sort of thing is why people who act like a movie trailer for a movie that hasn’t even released yet has “spoiled the entire movie” are incredibly silly. Like how tf do you know
Don't they show Drax killing the thing in one of the trailers? You thought they spoiled that? Plus they showed ego and mantis, I don't think anyone thought they weren't gonna be involved in the finale. Idk. Idk bc my nerd brain had already consumed breakdown videos of the trailer, announcement of the movie/plot at comic con, etc. So my experience isn't exactly "general"
I remember the trailer for Pixar’s Brave made it seem like it focused on her “fighting for her own hand” but we got the the theatre and it was basically brother bear 😅
The trailer for the Emperor's New Groove shows them swinging on a vine and getting tangled around a tree. Pacha says "Don't worry your highness, I gotcha. You're safe with me... Or not." In the movie, he NEVER SAYS "or not." This has pissed me off for the last 24 years!!!
Wait until you find out about the trailer for Flushed Away, where the rat has 2 butlers, completely ruining the idea that he lives alone and therefore should leave and go with Rita. They just edited them out of the final prodict.
That movie was a nightmare to work on, so I'm not surprised tons of scenes were edited differently. Watch "The sweatbox" documentary about it. Also other movies have trailers made from scratch to avoid spoiling anything, like Frozen. Or infamously, Madam Web has a cringe voiceover to exposition the whole backstory, that's not in the actual film.
The only part I remember from that trailer is the two of them having the deadpan convinced before going over the waterfall, climaxing with Kuzco yelling "boooooyaaaahhhahhh" And that deffo does happen in the movie so 🤔 we seem to find ourselves at a draw
I was able to see Fall Guy early through my university, and I can say that the trailer doesn’t take away from the movie experience. First, the trailer doesn’t reveal everything. Second, it’s the type of movie that is enjoyable because of the vibes and character dynamics, so it would still be fine if you knew the plot.
One of my favorite trailers of all time is the Barbarian trailer when the girl just shows up on the porch and the guy asks if she wants to come in. So creepy and unsettling while revealing basically nothing about the movie
yes!! it was such a great example of setting people up to be blown away when shit hits the fan! i was expecting a run of the mill home invasion horror movie going in and i was OVERJOYED to be wrong
I haven’t finished the video yet but I think a lot of movies try so hard to get viewers that they don’t leave you any room to learn the story as you go. It’s like how booktok has so many tags of like “enemies to lovers” , “found family” and so on, and that spoils the content of the book before you start it. There’s just so much media nowadays, that they don’t know how to hit their demographic without giving away the whole plot. I don’t have a solution, just a rant 🙃
Japan already solved this problem with its long titles you see on manga and anime (e.g that time I got reanimated as a slime) tells you enough to be interested but also doesn’t spoil it
Matthew Weiner the showrunner for Mad Men hated "next time on" trailers but the network forced him to do them. So over the course of the series the next time on clips would get shorter and shorter and also like more disjointed and cryptic until it was almost a parody of itself lol. Like in the last season it just be a random 5 sec montage of reaction shots with no dialogue 😂
I feel like knowing a lot of the movie doesn't necessarily ruin the experience so long as the story is still engaging and interesting. We go into Romeo and Juliet knowing from the first couple lines they're going to die but then you watch it play out and see what happens. Like you said, we rewatch movies all the time because we liked it and were invested. Just because you know what's going to happen, that doesn't change the fact it's still entertaining to get there. Side note. I remember the controversy when Red Eye had two very different trailers made just to manipulate their audience. On Spike TV (the quote unquote man's channel) it was edited to look like a hard core action movie. On Lifetime (a channel mostly associated with women) it was edited to look like a light hearted romcom. The movie is neither of those things.
I actually LOVED the way Marvel did this for Endgame. All trailers suggested the movie going in a COMPLETELY different direction. When you then went to watch it you had no idea what was coming. Super well done. Edit: bruh nice mentioned. Yeah I rarely see people giving credit for that but as a former hardcore fan that was everything
I love the way Marvel does trailers, they edit in or out the spoilery bits or straight up shows something different, gets fans talking and theorizing but not actually spoiling the best parts
Yeah but then some people get pissed about that too, like the new Scott Pilgrim where they threw a curveball and changed trajectory at the end of the first episode and so many people were pissed that they were “lied to” by the marketing. Like make up your minds do you want to know what’s going to happen or not.
I am so glad you mentioned the Super 8 teaser, probably my favorite movie trailer I have ever seen. The fact that none of the footage in it is in the actual movie is such cool choice
12:49 Apparently Warner Bros liked the trailers so much they asked the trailer house company to just edit the film itself which is why the film is the way it is
As someone who tries to avoid spoilers like the plague, I have found that the teaser trailer and FIRST trailer of a movie are the perfect amount to inform me what the movie is actually about and getting me excited by keeping it a mystery Going onto the second and especially third+ trailers is when they start revealing more- just recently my friend felt the newest Kingdom of the planet of the apes trailer spoiled it for him but the last two were fine
i dont, lol, just dont wanna watch the movie if i do. video games do this too.. makes the story developpment underwhelming, some improved though after criticism, some were already amazing at not spoiling. a trailer should be something that gets you hyped and give you content but doesn't tell anything or something i like is when they give you a false path so when you watch the story it's actually different (the plot but not the events) than what you would have thought with all the leads they gave.
@@KwehShiroI guess so, but for me unless the trailer spoils a big twist or it’s really egregious in spoiling the plot, it’s never gonna ruin the movie for me. I think the sweet spot for is something that let me know if the premise I can get invested while also not revealing any big plot points. Even then, though if the movie looks good enough, it’s not gonna stop me.
An inverse to this that I’ve noticed is what I’m gonna call the “Filibuster trailer” (in honour of your Parks & Rec reference) It’s when the trailer just seems to jump between completely random shots and characters saying lines that seem to give a vague idea of what the film is about, whilst almost specifically avoiding showing anything crucial or revealing. They just stitch as much as they can to form the length of a trailer. I respect what they’re going for, but it kinda just makes me feel like I wasted two and a half minutes of my life with nothing new gained by the end of it.
A really good marketing decision done by the upcoming horror movie Long Legs is make really esoteric, eerie teaser trailers that make no sense without context and are just really chilling when you watch them by themselves. I’m excited to see how the movie actually is just from the teasers alone.
When I saw the Fall Guy trailer in the movie theater, I was so excited to actually see the full movie. It's definitely an action movie, I love that it's a movie within a movie, and it's a rom-com as well with two great actors. I'm psyched to see it this weekend!
I think I'm a weird person in that getting spoilers doesn't ruin a story for me. The joy is not in unraveling an unknown story but immersing yourself in it. I rewatch stuff all the time where I know the ending and still get excited. I figure I'm a minority in this respect though
You're not alone lol. As Scott mentioned, people with anxiety like me actually enjoy the movie more if they don't have to worry about an unexpected big twist such as the death of a main character. Which is why I also enjoy rewatching the same movies and TV shows, even if I know the end. (That goes for books as well). It's a little bit like going on vacation in your favourite location, you have a good time even if you already know the place. 😊
This thread is like reading comments from aliens 😭 Knowing what's going to happen in a movie basically makes it pointless to watch for me, unless it's a re-watch. I don't watch trailers and I mute all sorts of stuff on social media if I'm avoiding a particular thing before I've seen it myself.
I have a mind for jokes and a scrambled egg brain for everything else. So I am mad at a trailer for spoiling all the jokes/the best jokes because I will remember that.
I remember when I saw The Truman Show for the first time without any idea of what it was about... I thought for a good part of the beginning that it was a documentary about a tv show host and I was SO confused when the plot started 😭😆 but I feel like I enjoyed it even more because of that! I like to know as little as possible about a movie now before I see it, and if I don't like it, then oh well
(Spoilers for The Batman!) When I went to the theater to see something (forgot what exactly it was), they showed the third trailer for The Batman, which I had not seen intentionally - for fear of seeing something I'd rather see fresh when the movie came out - and when it got to the end of it, I thought they had spoiled that Riddler knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman. I was a tad peeved. When I actually saw the movie, it turned out that Riddler was simply talking about Bruce Wayne to Batman, not knowing they're the same. Not the worst example of a trailer showing too much (hell, it didn’t even technically spoil anything), but that's just what I can remember recently. Sorry if that was a waste of reading 😅
I love that you mentioned about people who need to know for anxiety reasons. I agree of course that obviously that isn't the majority and account for why most people want "spoiler heavy" trailers.
12:45 I agree! The very first trailer looked really good tbh. But then BvS came out and people were criticizing the DCEU and its dark tone (even more than they already had been after Man of Steel) so WB pretty much amped up the “fun” factor in Suicide Squad hardcore. I mean just look up the transformation of the movie’s logo throughout the trailers. Also another movie whose trailer was very different than the actual movie was the Avenger’s Age of Ultron first official trailer. I still to this day still watch that trailer sometimes because it’s so good. And I, too, hated Kangaroo Jack when I saw it in theaters as a kid because I also thought it was going to be about a talking kangaroo because of the trailer 😭 Also one more thing, I absolutely LOVE when a good trailer plays a song and makes me fall in love with the song. Like there’s been so many times where I’ve already even known the song but once it’s played on a trailer that I really like, it makes me love it even more. I’ve liked Madonna’s Like a Prayer a decent amount but the Deadpool & Wolverine trailer has definitely boosted it for me -Zach
My favorite trailers right now are for Skinamarink and Kane and Lynch 2 dog days. They show basically nothing but the general vibe and it’s executed so well
@@Regene2383 It's in a video on my channel called "How Movie Trailers Manipulate You" - I wanted to prove that a trailer can make anything look exciting lol
@@Regene2383 it's at the end of my "How Movie Trailers Manipulate You" video - I wanted to prove that a trailer can make just about anything look exciting lol
I was so intrigued by your comment that I went straight to your channel to watch it. Not only is this trailer hilarious, it's also very, VERY well done! How on earth do you only have a thousand subscribers? You just got a new one, I'm definitely gonna check your other videos. 👍🏻
a trailer that lied to me as a child was Bridge to Terabithia. I was a massive Narnia nerd and was sold on a Narnia-esque magical adventure. I've never recovered.
Infinity war was spoiled for me, not from the trailers but from Adult Swim. About 10 days after the movie was released Adult Swim posted a black screen, during one of their breaks, with large white text spoiling the names of those who died in the movie. I was so pissed. It only happened once, but it was enough 😢
@@scifigrl23 I couldnt care less if fans accurately predict something. The problem is when someone goes out of their to spoil something they know lots of people are hyped about. And your attitude of well you should've been one of those fans that analyzed everything and figured it out sooner.
So I'm only at 1:26 making this comment and I did see the movie right when it came out. Mild spoiler, the dead guy is not the actor he is a double for.
Honestly the title of the movie is more of a spoiler because it's a pretty obvious play on words where he's a "fall guy" because he's a stunt man, but also gets framed to take the fall for a crime. Only one of those is a typical use of the phrase "the fall guy" and it is not the first one
I heard the trailer for My Girl hid a little too much! Poor parents, taking their happy kids to see a heartwarming coming-of-age movie... and bam, Macauley bites it.
I think there was an instance that happened recently where someone successfully sued a movie studio for showing a trailer that wasn't completely accurate to what the movie turned out to be.
There was a movie from last year called Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken that the trailer was LITERALLY everything that happens in the movie down to the final climax. I think that's one of the reasons it was Dreamwork's worst movie release in the modern era, since audiences could see what the whole film was about, and it just wasn't good at all lmao
That seems like a win for us as consumers. We saved money by not wasting time and cash on a shit movie. Lol I personally would prefer a spoiler to a very good movie vs a crap movie with no spoilers that I now wasted upwards of $30 per person on.
The approach I prefer for this is releasing teasers up until release weekend. Then all of the extended ‘spoilery’ trailers are released after that. Superfans like the spoil free teasers and will go in the first weekend. Then more people can be convinced by longer trailers after.
I was talking with some friends last week about this, and the trailer for A Dog's Purpose actually LITERALLY gives away the entire plot. I unironically felt more emotion while watching the trailer than through the entire movie.
Here’s the thing about studios lying in trailers, the first wave of viewers will pay and feel lied to, but it’s too late because they’ve already payed, but the second wave will be non existent because everyone leaves bad reviews and nobody else goes to see the movie. Let’s also point out that if they know what will put butts in seats, so they lie that their movie is about that topic, why don’t they just make a movie about that topic?
10:37 it’s me I’ve been mentioned. I am someone who doesn’t care/kinda likes spoilers. I’ve always been that way I honestly find that 90% of the time I tend to like movies/books/tv shows more when I know the outcome going in then when I don’t, and I have to sit there stewing in anxiety. Like I literally can’t watch LOST because no one talks about the ending in great detail they all say “you just gotta watch it” well I don’t just gotta watch it I want to know it. I need to know that everything will be okay or mentally prepare myself for it not being okay. But again as Scott said this is extreme anxiety I don’t even like to be surprised for my birthday and Christmas I prefer to know what I’m getting as otherwise I get over anxious about it.
This is a problem, at least sometimes. I haven't seen a Marvel movie in a couple years now, but when I was invested I had to stop watching their trailers because while in the theater to see Thor: Ragnarok, I realized that every major reveal in that movie was spoiled in the trailer. I saw pretty much everything coming because I had seen, I think, two trailers for the film. It was ridiculous.
There’s a movie coming out called Trap. It’s about a dad who takes his young daughter to a concert, and unknown to the concert attendants, the concert is where a serial killer plans to take his next victims. The trailer seemed SUPER interesting and genuinely something I wanted to watch, but in the last few seconds of the trailer they spoiled who the bad guy was (even though it was supposedly a “mystery”). I’m still gonna watch it but I am not nearly as excited.
if you’re talking about the reveal of the killer, that happens really early in the trailer, because that’s what the movie is about… it’s from his perspective
that's not even what the trailer says the movie is about. it's a police trap for the serial killer, not a trap for the serial killer's next victim. If you're going to complain about learning what the premise of a movie is, at least get what you're complaining about right.
@@jijitters i personally think it’s much more intriguing knowing we are following the killer. then it would just look like an average father save daughter from evil villain movie and i think that would garner much less interest. now this poses more intriguing questions like how he will escape this trap set for him AND how his daughter will play into the narrative. but if that’s your opinion that’s fine, the op just made it seem like it was a huge reveal at the end when it was a key plot point given early in the trailer.
Scott, you HAVE to watch Soylent Green. I saw it first the first time last summer and it terrified me so much that I couldn’t even say the title without getting upset. It’s from 1973 and has that grainy, creepy 70’s look. But, it’s the opening that really got me to watch it. It’s based on a book about this dystopian world and is set in 2022. The world has used up the resources especially the oceans and this company makes Soylent green which is a food source but no one knows what it’s made of. Last thing I will saw is that it’s just one of those movies that just stay with you…like you can’t shake the feeling you had when you watched it. Sorry for the looooong post but I cannot say enough how this movie stayed with me!
Either a trailer spoils a movie or advertises it incorrectly, but I will say that the most enjoyable movie experience I ever had was when a friend and I randomly decided to see Ocean's 11. Neither of us knew what it was about and never saw a trailer for it. We had the best time because we were so clueless. Granted, that's a risk to do with any movie!
I remember watching Disney VHS's and seeing a trailer for The Hunchback of Notre Dame. The tone of the trailer was WILDLY more optimistic than the actual movie 😬🤦♀️
It definitely stems from movie trailers giving away what would be big twists in the film or answers certain mysteries that are supposed to keep you guessing throughout the movie. So spoilers for Terminator Salvation and Genesis: Salvation's trailer revealed that the main guy character is a Terminator with amnesia, and then Genesis' trailer revealed that John Connor is a Terminator.
I agree it's usually easy to avoid them but the last time I went to the movies there were a bunch of full length trailers and one of them was for Sasquatch Sunset which is an *eighty-eight* minute movie. Where the main characters do not speak lol. I literally felt like I saw the entire movie in the trailer even if some things were left out because it's the type of movie that's more about the bigger picture than what exactly happened.
When I was in elementary school, there was an ad for I am Legend that played during afterschool hours. It featured Will Smith and his dog in an empty, overgrown New York with that shot of lions and other non urban animals while there's a soliloquy about how he's the only man left. So imagine my shock, as a kid who didn't know there was a book, when I went to see it with my cousin and a monster burst out. We were terrified and in tears. We probably would have been fine if we had literally any prep for it. Anyway, I'll never forgive the advertising execs for that. Not because i got scared, but because I'm mad I didn't get to see a survuvalist movie about a man and his dog in postapocalyptic, overgrown new york.
i wish books, series and movies had a wonderful tagging system like Ao3 tbh! i really dont like certain type of stories and themes, but a little book summary on the backcover is not gonna tell you what actually happens. a book or movie might be a romance story, but is it dark romance? is it a light, fluffy type of thing? does a main character die for a tragic plot twist???? i wish everything had a tagging system thatd be so convenient omg
this is definitely on account of my being a broke and extremely anxious little baby that fears disappointment more than anything, but i've always been completely fine with spoilers. in some cases they actually enhance my experience, because i don't spend the entire moving worrying about whether or not i'll have wasted my money to see a movie with an ending that i find disappointing. so i'm glad that you brought up people like me 😅
A friend recommended the movie “Your Name” to me back when it came out. I looked at screen shots of the movie and bought tickets the next day. Easily the best experience I’ve EVER had watching any movie. Granted, the trailer doesn’t spoil anything, so it’s a safe watch, but even going in knowing nothing but “this movie looks beautiful” is the way I would recommend anyone watch the it. Same with the Korean movie Parasite (completely different genre, but same idea lol). I didn’t watch the trailer for either movie until writing this comment, and they’re two of my all time favorite movies
When people say "back then", they're probably thinking about TV commercial trailers, which were either TEASERS or a very condensed trailer, edited down to save money on adspace.
From what I've spoken to people about it, I think it's mostly that the way a lot of people consume movies (or media in general) is that they mostly want some safety on what they watch. They want the story to be mostly coherent, the most important plot points wrapped up by the end, and a happy or hopeful ending, and one or all of these things missing will ruin their enjoyment of the movie. If you're gonna spend time, money and invest yourself in a story you wanna know if it's gonna be worth your while. So, in the Castaway example, you watched this trailer that got you really hooked, but you know you're not gonna like the movie if he doesn't make it out of the island or if they leave it ambiguous, so you need to know before going in to make sure you're gonna enjoy it. The story isn't just the ending anyway, so you can still invest yourself in the story while having the safety of knowing that in the end, everything is fine. A lot of people just don't care all that much about the mystery of it and we can complain all day about the right or best way to watch a movie, but in the end everyone wants different things out of a story.
Honestly I find the whole concept of spoilers to be silly. I mean if someone feels like they've been robbed of on experience who am I to say they're wrong. I just think that there's so much in between these "spoiled" moments that people forget it's about the journey, not the destination. Also it is so wild to me how much value some people put on unspoiled media. I just don't get that same feeling I guess. Reading the synopsis of a novel is not the same experience as actually reading it to me, I view trailers the same way. There's a whole lot more I can say about this fairly recent phenomenon of spoilerphobia but I digress. Great points as always, loved the video.
focus groups are cancer, i heard a lot of great endings were changed/reshot due to them. and I still wonder if any of them actually go to the movies at all
I spent the night of my 16th birthday watching the midnight release of Suicide Squad and I was SO VALIDATED WHEN YOU USED IT AS AN EXAMPLE! The experience was so frustrating that I did an assignment for my speech class at the time on what were the effects of watching too many trailers before watching a movie
As someone who doesn’t watch trailers and avoids spoilers, it vastly improves my enjoyment of a lot of films that my friends didn’t like as much that do watch every trailer, going in blind is the best way to watch movies imo
I think even if you're going to spoil a _whole_ narrative in the trailer, you have to watch the tone of it. I remember when the Sing 2 trailer was an ad and not only did they show the main conflicts of all these characters and their eventual resolution, but it was so drab and wishy washy it took all possible interest of seeing it away. When it comes to action movies, to me the trailer has to show just enough to get you hype but never show the hypest parts. The John Wick movies for example had me and everyone around me acting foolishly from hype, and yet they barely show any of the best action scenes. In fact the trailer for 4 didn't have what I consider to be the best scene in it _at all_ (which had me giggling and almost bouncing out of my seat in the theater as a grown man, so I'm glad I got to experience it raw), and the trailer made the very first fight in the movie look like it was the final one because they were that confident in the action that came later. On the opposite end, the MCU's first Spider-Man movie pretty much had everything but the Michael Keaton twist in it, which was a secondary conflict which resulted in only a few minutes of tension. People didn't respond well so they changed tactics for the next one: lies of omission, not showing the main conflict of the movie nor the main antagonist because literally just this character's inclusion would be a spoiler. It would also go against what the movie was doing to convince you this would not be a comic accurate version of this character, so that even comic fans would doubt they knew what was going on.
I think Robert Zemekis once said something to the effect that people are more likely to see a movie if they know what's going to happen. People are weird
my guess is that people don't want to spend their money and time to go to a movie that turns out to be bad or unenjoyable. Kind of like when you feel like treating yourself to a meal at a restaurant because you had a hard week so you go to the place you have gone 100 times before and order the exact same thing to ensure you enjoy it.
@@starkis14159 I think equating knowing what's going to happen to knowing the quality is a mistake you've made here. Twists, reveals, unique developments - those are what make a movie good and well-written for people who aren't idiots.
Back in 2019, only like 2 weeks after Endgame came out, I was watching the NBA finals and they played a TV promo with "#1 Movie in the World" yadda yadda, but they literally showed the scene of Pepper and Tony fighting back to back from the final battle. Two. Weeks. After the movie came out.
I have anxiety. In my personal experience... Situations where I don't know what to do/say or what will happen... do not like. However, things like movies and books can be kind of "safe" places to experience not knowing what's around the corner. Which is why it's extra disappointing when someone gives away spoilers on a book or movie or something I was really interested in experiencing.
I like watching things knowing only enough to know what the premise is, so I can decide if I want to watch it, and nothing more than that. From READING the premise, not watching anything.
10:59 I actually appreciate this so much, I have been part of that segment of society before and it was nice to know my favorite summer camp counselor respects my existence
My childhood gripe was the trailers for upcoming Barbie movies on the DVDs. I can’t remember the specific ones but I know there were several that showed things and suggested plot lines that were completely gone from the final movie that came out on the next DVD. But they were putting out like 2 movies a year so there’s definitely a chance that they threw together a trailer of a movie that wasn’t fully edited together yet
Scott, I feel seen when you mentioned the anxiety part. I always google how a movie will end before I see it and it drives my partner crazy! But I truly cannot handle not knowing, it makes me so so uncomfortable and anxious
Scott, there's an early 90s movie that this is a remake of. Its called Fall Guy. A Stunt man finds someone dead and uses his wits and film technology to stay alive and exonerate himself while the actual criminal tries to both frame and kill our Double Entendre "fall guy" I don't think I need to see the movie. I saw the first one, and it what's entertaining but nothing to write home about
One of my favorite trailers is Watchmen with the Smashing Pumpkins song. It gave you the vibe of the movie with so many cool shots, without giving anything away.
I have a running list of movies I want to see, based on the previews. When I get to the movies I sometimes go "why the heck did I want to see THIS?" I usually retain zero info from trailers
what I hate is when all the best jokes of a movie is spoiled in a trailer. which leaves it slightly disappointing when you watch it and all the best gags you've seen before and dont hit as hard as they should have. all i can think is "oh i've already seen this"
My personal favorite movie trailer was the first trailer for the Incredibles, because it tells you everything you need to know about the film while also giving away basically nothing. It's a two minute skit that was specifically written, recorded, and animated to be a trailer - nothing resembling it appears in the movie, and in fact there's nowhere it would actually fit into the plot continuity-wise - but it uses that time to establish the premise (retired superhero getting back into the super-game), introduces us to Mr Incredible and his wife, and of course sets the tone (comedy). I was hooked the first time I saw it, went to see the movie on the back of that alone - I don't know if I ever saw an actual trailer - and twenty years later it still sticks in my mind.
I just saw fall guy movie yesterday. Looking back at the trailer it gave you enough about what the movie was gonna revolve around without giving you important details to the story. The problem trailers have is they feel like they have to be 3 to 5 minutes long. When you look back at the initial cars 3 trailers while short they gave you enough without having to show a highlight reel of the film. It was lighting is in trouble and you don't know if this it. If trailers just cut down they would probably be better received.
every time i watch hereditary i get mad when the desk scene comes up because it was in the trailer and if it wasn’t it would’ve been one of the most memorable scenes in the movie
I just watched The Fall Guy movie and came here to say that the trailer did not spoil anything. When they “revealed that the actor died” that wasn’t even the actor it was a literally different guy and ig no one noticed
I agree with you Scott, I get tired of movie trailers giving the movie away. I search for the teaser trailer of movies im interested in because they're shorter trailers than the original. This has been a pet peeve of mine for awhile. Sometimes I won't watch trailer at all
Ive also said I never watch trailers because they spoil everything but this video has shown that sentiment is a bit more complicated. Great vid I enjoyed!
I saw kangaroo jack in theaters when I was a very very young so I just have vague memories of it. I cant believe this is how i found out the kangaroo didnt actually talk throughout the entire movie.
"Do you have a time machine? Why aren't you using it for something more important??" Scott with the real questions lmao
Great comment! Good job
The problem with trailers feeling like they give away too much, is that they answer all the questions that are asked, without asking new ones. If the trailer does not leave any unanswered question it feels like there aren't any, regardless of the truth.
Exactly. This is why I see people who want the whole plot in the trailer as less intelligent, inferior minded people. An experience where your brain literally never has to think at all is what they want.
Seeing people as inferior or lacking intelligence, because of their trailer preferences, is hilarious. I’m not one of the people you’ve described but it wouldn’t make me less intelligent if I enjoyed spoilers lol. There’re intelligent people on both sides of the ballot
@@jijitterssome people work a lot and watch movies so they DONT have to use their brain for like an hour and a half or more before they have to start using it again 😭
Personally I think the worst is when horror movies show off the 'best' jumpscares in the trailer
I enjoyed Smile, but it would have been even better if they didn't include the car scare.
"best jumpscares" implies that a jumpscare is what makes a horror movie good.
If a horror movie trailer is filled with jumpscares, I am glad as I know not to waste my time on it. There won't be any real horror, and it will just be "booh! haha gotcha" trash.
@@Baltuxokay
@@Baltuxerm actually, “best jumpscare” implies theres more than one jumpscare
@@BaltuxThis just in, people can like jumpscares. 😱😱😱 Not everyone jerks off their ego to psychological horror. Sometimes it's just fun to watch jumpscare horror. 😱😱
As someone who just LITERALLY WATCHED The Fall Guy today, I can guarantee you, they don't spoil SHIT in the trailer. Most of what was "spoiled" is introduced in the first act of the movie.
Ooo Vincent Price!
@@choosehappy9224 "Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well."
There are even a couple cute editing decisions in the trailer to avoid spoilers, e.g. changing who the "i never forget a fist" line is pointed at.
honestly the trailer is SO good having seen the movie. what seem like spoilers are infact, 100% hoodwinks. they dupe you into thinking you know, when you dont.
Yeah, I guess I never watched the three minute trailer, but the trailers that played before movies I didn't think had too many spoilers just some funny action scenes. I thought they were good trailers. I guess there was internet drama about this trailer, but it's definitely not one I'd pick.
My favorite lying trailer was Guardians of the Galaxy 2. The trailer made it seem that the big electricity monster was some final or climactic fight and it was the opening credits. We had no idea about the rest of the movie and it was great.
I also agree that keeping the tone correct is important in keeping the rug pull effect away from audiences.
The rug pull effect is exactly why I would prefer a trailer reveal a bit more to me. I don't wanna go in expecting an action movie and get a shitty romcom. Lol
@-ThatGuy- exactly, I think the key is keep the biggest secrets and reveals a surprise but absolutely do not sell the movie as basically a different genre.. shouldn't be so difficult and yet.. 😅
See that sort of thing is why people who act like a movie trailer for a movie that hasn’t even released yet has “spoiled the entire movie” are incredibly silly. Like how tf do you know
Don't they show Drax killing the thing in one of the trailers? You thought they spoiled that? Plus they showed ego and mantis, I don't think anyone thought they weren't gonna be involved in the finale. Idk. Idk bc my nerd brain had already consumed breakdown videos of the trailer, announcement of the movie/plot at comic con, etc. So my experience isn't exactly "general"
I remember the trailer for Pixar’s Brave made it seem like it focused on her “fighting for her own hand” but we got the the theatre and it was basically brother bear 😅
To be fair that's a problem with the movie switching gears during production
Same with princess and the frog. She's basically a frog the entire movie?! I wanna watch a princess!!
@@eyebrowsj2243They switched directors but they were always going to make the mom turn into a bear.
I mean, that's still what it's about. You can have multiple messages and plots in your movie lol
I actually was excited for the film when it came out and I was so disappointed with the film for the same reason
The trailer for the Emperor's New Groove shows them swinging on a vine and getting tangled around a tree. Pacha says "Don't worry your highness, I gotcha. You're safe with me... Or not." In the movie, he NEVER SAYS "or not." This has pissed me off for the last 24 years!!!
Wait until you find out about the trailer for Flushed Away, where the rat has 2 butlers, completely ruining the idea that he lives alone and therefore should leave and go with Rita. They just edited them out of the final prodict.
That doesn't even change anything in the movie...?
That movie was a nightmare to work on, so I'm not surprised tons of scenes were edited differently. Watch "The sweatbox" documentary about it. Also other movies have trailers made from scratch to avoid spoiling anything, like Frozen. Or infamously, Madam Web has a cringe voiceover to exposition the whole backstory, that's not in the actual film.
The only part I remember from that trailer is the two of them having the deadpan convinced before going over the waterfall, climaxing with Kuzco yelling "boooooyaaaahhhahhh"
And that deffo does happen in the movie so 🤔 we seem to find ourselves at a draw
@@velmad3894that’s not the point !!
now i want a shirt that says "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it lookin' ass"
I was able to see Fall Guy early through my university, and I can say that the trailer doesn’t take away from the movie experience. First, the trailer doesn’t reveal everything. Second, it’s the type of movie that is enjoyable because of the vibes and character dynamics, so it would still be fine if you knew the plot.
A little too much talking at first but god damn does the action go hard
Movies great I had a blast
"Lookin ass" is my favorite little flavor phrase to throw out. Thank you for the immaculate vibes on that one.
My memory is just so bad I don't even remember what happened during the trailers, so I get to watch movies going in blind.
One of my favorite trailers of all time is the Barbarian trailer when the girl just shows up on the porch and the guy asks if she wants to come in. So creepy and unsettling while revealing basically nothing about the movie
yes!! it was such a great example of setting people up to be blown away when shit hits the fan! i was expecting a run of the mill home invasion horror movie going in and i was OVERJOYED to be wrong
AGREED
I haven’t finished the video yet but I think a lot of movies try so hard to get viewers that they don’t leave you any room to learn the story as you go. It’s like how booktok has so many tags of like “enemies to lovers” , “found family” and so on, and that spoils the content of the book before you start it. There’s just so much media nowadays, that they don’t know how to hit their demographic without giving away the whole plot. I don’t have a solution, just a rant 🙃
Japan already solved this problem with its long titles you see on manga and anime (e.g that time I got reanimated as a slime) tells you enough to be interested but also doesn’t spoil it
@@redwiltshire1816 *reincarnated. that time i got reanimated as a slime sure would have been interesting.
@@stupiditiusmaximus sorry auto correct lol can’t win with it
@@redwiltshire1816 trueeeee. It always messes everything up.
Matthew Weiner the showrunner for Mad Men hated "next time on" trailers but the network forced him to do them. So over the course of the series the next time on clips would get shorter and shorter and also like more disjointed and cryptic until it was almost a parody of itself lol. Like in the last season it just be a random 5 sec montage of reaction shots with no dialogue 😂
I feel like knowing a lot of the movie doesn't necessarily ruin the experience so long as the story is still engaging and interesting. We go into Romeo and Juliet knowing from the first couple lines they're going to die but then you watch it play out and see what happens. Like you said, we rewatch movies all the time because we liked it and were invested. Just because you know what's going to happen, that doesn't change the fact it's still entertaining to get there.
Side note. I remember the controversy when Red Eye had two very different trailers made just to manipulate their audience. On Spike TV (the quote unquote man's channel) it was edited to look like a hard core action movie. On Lifetime (a channel mostly associated with women) it was edited to look like a light hearted romcom. The movie is neither of those things.
I actually LOVED the way Marvel did this for Endgame. All trailers suggested the movie going in a COMPLETELY different direction. When you then went to watch it you had no idea what was coming. Super well done.
Edit: bruh nice mentioned. Yeah I rarely see people giving credit for that but as a former hardcore fan that was everything
I love the way Marvel does trailers, they edit in or out the spoilery bits or straight up shows something different, gets fans talking and theorizing but not actually spoiling the best parts
I remember lots of people theorizing time travel from the trailer, though.
Yeah but then some people get pissed about that too, like the new Scott Pilgrim where they threw a curveball and changed trajectory at the end of the first episode and so many people were pissed that they were “lied to” by the marketing. Like make up your minds do you want to know what’s going to happen or not.
@@gabrielaharries8149funny because they used to spoil a lot back in the day, Iron man 1 trailer spoils like 80% of the movie.
I am so glad you mentioned the Super 8 teaser, probably my favorite movie trailer I have ever seen. The fact that none of the footage in it is in the actual movie is such cool choice
I normally don’t watch trailers for this reason. But also I think it can make people get more excited to watch it
I like the way you think, but it sucks when you have to sit through the later trailers before you watch a different movie
@@mcbuckets2399that's my issue as someone who goes to the cinema 2 or 3 times a week, it's so hard to avoid trailers
@LiamLivesOn Yeah. Also considering that there are trailers before UA-cam videos.
@@chickenburrgers oh I have UA-cam premium so I'm lucky that way,
@@LiamLivesOn lucky... I'm too poor.
12:49 Apparently Warner Bros liked the trailers so much they asked the trailer house company to just edit the film itself which is why the film is the way it is
As someone who tries to avoid spoilers like the plague, I have found that the teaser trailer and FIRST trailer of a movie are the perfect amount to inform me what the movie is actually about and getting me excited by keeping it a mystery
Going onto the second and especially third+ trailers is when they start revealing more- just recently my friend felt the newest Kingdom of the planet of the apes trailer spoiled it for him but the last two were fine
"Let's go see The Fall Guy together!" Scott, you make me want to have friends
Honestly even if trailers spoil everything I usually forget the entire trailer by the time I end up seeing the movie 🤷♀️
He said that already…
I DONT
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i dont, lol, just dont wanna watch the movie if i do. video games do this too.. makes the story developpment underwhelming, some improved though after criticism, some were already amazing at not spoiling. a trailer should be something that gets you hyped and give you content but doesn't tell anything or something i like is when they give you a false path so when you watch the story it's actually different (the plot but not the events) than what you would have thought with all the leads they gave.
@@KwehShiroI guess so, but for me unless the trailer spoils a big twist or it’s really egregious in spoiling the plot, it’s never gonna ruin the movie for me. I think the sweet spot for is something that let me know if the premise I can get invested while also not revealing any big plot points. Even then, though if the movie looks good enough, it’s not gonna stop me.
An inverse to this that I’ve noticed is what I’m gonna call the “Filibuster trailer” (in honour of your Parks & Rec reference)
It’s when the trailer just seems to jump between completely random shots and characters saying lines that seem to give a vague idea of what the film is about, whilst almost specifically avoiding showing anything crucial or revealing. They just stitch as much as they can to form the length of a trailer. I respect what they’re going for, but it kinda just makes me feel like I wasted two and a half minutes of my life with nothing new gained by the end of it.
“Uploaded 35 seconds ago” I got home from work at the exact right time and not a moment too soon
Early morning post let's goo
Well, kinda 34 seconds late 😂
@@ClearlyJoking fair point 🤣
So is this basically you saying "First!" ?
A really good marketing decision done by the upcoming horror movie Long Legs is make really esoteric, eerie teaser trailers that make no sense without context and are just really chilling when you watch them by themselves. I’m excited to see how the movie actually is just from the teasers alone.
When I saw the Fall Guy trailer in the movie theater, I was so excited to actually see the full movie. It's definitely an action movie, I love that it's a movie within a movie, and it's a rom-com as well with two great actors. I'm psyched to see it this weekend!
I saw it today and it was great!
I think I'm a weird person in that getting spoilers doesn't ruin a story for me. The joy is not in unraveling an unknown story but immersing yourself in it. I rewatch stuff all the time where I know the ending and still get excited. I figure I'm a minority in this respect though
You're not alone lol. As Scott mentioned, people with anxiety like me actually enjoy the movie more if they don't have to worry about an unexpected big twist such as the death of a main character.
Which is why I also enjoy rewatching the same movies and TV shows, even if I know the end. (That goes for books as well). It's a little bit like going on vacation in your favourite location, you have a good time even if you already know the place. 😊
If I'm REALLY into the show, I'm extremely impatient on what's gonna happen so I go out of my way LOOKING for spoilers- it just makes me feel better
@@sushilampa8287:o but ???? but ??????? 😭
This thread is like reading comments from aliens 😭 Knowing what's going to happen in a movie basically makes it pointless to watch for me, unless it's a re-watch. I don't watch trailers and I mute all sorts of stuff on social media if I'm avoiding a particular thing before I've seen it myself.
@jijitters I just hate surprises haha, I still have the rest of the movie/series to watch I just wanna know the big twist
I have a mind for jokes and a scrambled egg brain for everything else. So I am mad at a trailer for spoiling all the jokes/the best jokes because I will remember that.
I remember when I saw The Truman Show for the first time without any idea of what it was about... I thought for a good part of the beginning that it was a documentary about a tv show host and I was SO confused when the plot started 😭😆 but I feel like I enjoyed it even more because of that! I like to know as little as possible about a movie now before I see it, and if I don't like it, then oh well
(Spoilers for The Batman!)
When I went to the theater to see something (forgot what exactly it was), they showed the third trailer for The Batman, which I had not seen intentionally - for fear of seeing something I'd rather see fresh when the movie came out - and when it got to the end of it, I thought they had spoiled that Riddler knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman. I was a tad peeved. When I actually saw the movie, it turned out that Riddler was simply talking about Bruce Wayne to Batman, not knowing they're the same.
Not the worst example of a trailer showing too much (hell, it didn’t even technically spoil anything), but that's just what I can remember recently. Sorry if that was a waste of reading 😅
I love that you mentioned about people who need to know for anxiety reasons. I agree of course that obviously that isn't the majority and account for why most people want "spoiler heavy" trailers.
12:45 I agree! The very first trailer looked really good tbh. But then BvS came out and people were criticizing the DCEU and its dark tone (even more than they already had been after Man of Steel) so WB pretty much amped up the “fun” factor in Suicide Squad hardcore. I mean just look up the transformation of the movie’s logo throughout the trailers.
Also another movie whose trailer was very different than the actual movie was the Avenger’s Age of Ultron first official trailer. I still to this day still watch that trailer sometimes because it’s so good.
And I, too, hated Kangaroo Jack when I saw it in theaters as a kid because I also thought it was going to be about a talking kangaroo because of the trailer 😭
Also one more thing, I absolutely LOVE when a good trailer plays a song and makes me fall in love with the song. Like there’s been so many times where I’ve already even known the song but once it’s played on a trailer that I really like, it makes me love it even more. I’ve liked Madonna’s Like a Prayer a decent amount but the Deadpool & Wolverine trailer has definitely boosted it for me
-Zach
My favorite trailers right now are for Skinamarink and Kane and Lynch 2 dog days. They show basically nothing but the general vibe and it’s executed so well
Exactly why I made a fake horror movie trailer about the eggs in my fridge. I wish I was kidding.
Need to see that lol
@@Regene2383 It's in a video on my channel called "How Movie Trailers Manipulate You" - I wanted to prove that a trailer can make anything look exciting lol
@@Regene2383 it's at the end of my "How Movie Trailers Manipulate You" video - I wanted to prove that a trailer can make just about anything look exciting lol
I was so intrigued by your comment that I went straight to your channel to watch it. Not only is this trailer hilarious, it's also very, VERY well done!
How on earth do you only have a thousand subscribers? You just got a new one, I'm definitely gonna check your other videos. 👍🏻
@@MissTwoSetEncyclopedia Wow, thank you so much, I really appreciate your comment. Welcome to the club :)
Also on the spiderman one, the multiverse thing is the entire premise of the movie. They're trying to draw in fans of the older Spiderman movies.
I feel like the M Night Shyamalon movie Trap has an inexcusible giveaway in its trailer
Plus it's a Shymalon movie. Everyone knows there will be a twist. Question is will the twist make sense
If it’s a shyamlon movie there will be a twist so the trailer giving a basis to the plot makes sense
I thought the same when I saw the “twist” in the trailer I just felt like what else could possibly happen now
I feel like there's gonna be a twist on the "twist" in the trailer
Shamamlon love twisting the trailer twist
a trailer that lied to me as a child was Bridge to Terabithia. I was a massive Narnia nerd and was sold on a Narnia-esque magical adventure. I've never recovered.
Infinity war was spoiled for me, not from the trailers but from Adult Swim. About 10 days after the movie was released Adult Swim posted a black screen, during one of their breaks, with large white text spoiling the names of those who died in the movie. I was so pissed. It only happened once, but it was enough 😢
How in the world did you NOT know everyone was going to die in the end? That was obvious years ahead of time.
@scifigrl23 It wasnt obvious youre just being a jerk
@@SaturdayParker you're just mad that the rumor you heard were true.
@@scifigrl23 I couldnt care less if fans accurately predict something. The problem is when someone goes out of their to spoil something they know lots of people are hyped about.
And your attitude of well you should've been one of those fans that analyzed everything and figured it out sooner.
So I'm only at 1:26 making this comment and I did see the movie right when it came out. Mild spoiler, the dead guy is not the actor he is a double for.
Honestly the title of the movie is more of a spoiler because it's a pretty obvious play on words where he's a "fall guy" because he's a stunt man, but also gets framed to take the fall for a crime. Only one of those is a typical use of the phrase "the fall guy" and it is not the first one
I heard the trailer for My Girl hid a little too much! Poor parents, taking their happy kids to see a heartwarming coming-of-age movie... and bam, Macauley bites it.
I literally walk into movie theaters last second to avoid the trailers
I think there was an instance that happened recently where someone successfully sued a movie studio for showing a trailer that wasn't completely accurate to what the movie turned out to be.
There was a movie from last year called Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken that the trailer was LITERALLY everything that happens in the movie down to the final climax. I think that's one of the reasons it was Dreamwork's worst movie release in the modern era, since audiences could see what the whole film was about, and it just wasn't good at all lmao
That seems like a win for us as consumers. We saved money by not wasting time and cash on a shit movie. Lol I personally would prefer a spoiler to a very good movie vs a crap movie with no spoilers that I now wasted upwards of $30 per person on.
I have a rule of watching 30 seconds of the trailer and then deciding if i want to watch it. this way i know enough, but not too much
Ah yes my lunch break video
The approach I prefer for this is releasing teasers up until release weekend. Then all of the extended ‘spoilery’ trailers are released after that. Superfans like the spoil free teasers and will go in the first weekend. Then more people can be convinced by longer trailers after.
Its my 29th birthday and this is the perfect gift. Thanks a million Scott ❤
I was talking with some friends last week about this, and the trailer for A Dog's Purpose actually LITERALLY gives away the entire plot. I unironically felt more emotion while watching the trailer than through the entire movie.
short answer: yes
long answer: yes. yes they are
Shorter answer: *nods*
"How Dare You?" merch when?? It's like your signature line, imo. You put a certain stank on it that really sticks in my head.
Here’s the thing about studios lying in trailers, the first wave of viewers will pay and feel lied to, but it’s too late because they’ve already payed, but the second wave will be non existent because everyone leaves bad reviews and nobody else goes to see the movie. Let’s also point out that if they know what will put butts in seats, so they lie that their movie is about that topic, why don’t they just make a movie about that topic?
10:37 it’s me I’ve been mentioned. I am someone who doesn’t care/kinda likes spoilers. I’ve always been that way I honestly find that 90% of the time I tend to like movies/books/tv shows more when I know the outcome going in then when I don’t, and I have to sit there stewing in anxiety. Like I literally can’t watch LOST because no one talks about the ending in great detail they all say “you just gotta watch it” well I don’t just gotta watch it I want to know it. I need to know that everything will be okay or mentally prepare myself for it not being okay. But again as Scott said this is extreme anxiety I don’t even like to be surprised for my birthday and Christmas I prefer to know what I’m getting as otherwise I get over anxious about it.
It must be very difficult to live a normal life like that, I'm sorry.
my favorite movie trailer is for Godard's "Film Socialisme". it shows the entire movie sped up in one minute.
This is a problem, at least sometimes. I haven't seen a Marvel movie in a couple years now, but when I was invested I had to stop watching their trailers because while in the theater to see Thor: Ragnarok, I realized that every major reveal in that movie was spoiled in the trailer. I saw pretty much everything coming because I had seen, I think, two trailers for the film. It was ridiculous.
Charlie St. Cloud AND Stranger than Fiction in the final montage? Fantastic. 19:26
There’s a movie coming out called Trap. It’s about a dad who takes his young daughter to a concert, and unknown to the concert attendants, the concert is where a serial killer plans to take his next victims. The trailer seemed SUPER interesting and genuinely something I wanted to watch, but in the last few seconds of the trailer they spoiled who the bad guy was (even though it was supposedly a “mystery”). I’m still gonna watch it but I am not nearly as excited.
It’s a shymalan movie their will be a twist so it’s fine
if you’re talking about the reveal of the killer, that happens really early in the trailer, because that’s what the movie is about… it’s from his perspective
that's not even what the trailer says the movie is about. it's a police trap for the serial killer, not a trap for the serial killer's next victim. If you're going to complain about learning what the premise of a movie is, at least get what you're complaining about right.
@@yt.byliam I'm of the opinion it's still a mistake to show that in the trailer. It would be more effective to leave out the suggestion of that.
@@jijitters i personally think it’s much more intriguing knowing we are following the killer. then it would just look like an average father save daughter from evil villain movie and i think that would garner much less interest. now this poses more intriguing questions like how he will escape this trap set for him AND how his daughter will play into the narrative.
but if that’s your opinion that’s fine, the op just made it seem like it was a huge reveal at the end when it was a key plot point given early in the trailer.
Scott, you HAVE to watch Soylent Green. I saw it first the first time last summer and it terrified me so much that I couldn’t even say the title without getting upset. It’s from 1973 and has that grainy, creepy 70’s look. But, it’s the opening that really got me to watch it. It’s based on a book about this dystopian world and is set in 2022. The world has used up the resources especially the oceans and this company makes Soylent green which is a food source but no one knows what it’s made of. Last thing I will saw is that it’s just one of those movies that just stay with you…like you can’t shake the feeling you had when you watched it. Sorry for the looooong post but I cannot say enough how this movie stayed with me!
Either a trailer spoils a movie or advertises it incorrectly, but I will say that the most enjoyable movie experience I ever had was when a friend and I randomly decided to see Ocean's 11. Neither of us knew what it was about and never saw a trailer for it. We had the best time because we were so clueless. Granted, that's a risk to do with any movie!
I remember watching Disney VHS's and seeing a trailer for The Hunchback of Notre Dame. The tone of the trailer was WILDLY more optimistic than the actual movie 😬🤦♀️
It definitely stems from movie trailers giving away what would be big twists in the film or answers certain mysteries that are supposed to keep you guessing throughout the movie.
So spoilers for Terminator Salvation and Genesis: Salvation's trailer revealed that the main guy character is a Terminator with amnesia, and then Genesis' trailer revealed that John Connor is a Terminator.
I agree it's usually easy to avoid them but the last time I went to the movies there were a bunch of full length trailers and one of them was for Sasquatch Sunset which is an *eighty-eight* minute movie. Where the main characters do not speak lol. I literally felt like I saw the entire movie in the trailer even if some things were left out because it's the type of movie that's more about the bigger picture than what exactly happened.
When I was in elementary school, there was an ad for I am Legend that played during afterschool hours. It featured Will Smith and his dog in an empty, overgrown New York with that shot of lions and other non urban animals while there's a soliloquy about how he's the only man left. So imagine my shock, as a kid who didn't know there was a book, when I went to see it with my cousin and a monster burst out. We were terrified and in tears. We probably would have been fine if we had literally any prep for it. Anyway, I'll never forgive the advertising execs for that. Not because i got scared, but because I'm mad I didn't get to see a survuvalist movie about a man and his dog in postapocalyptic, overgrown new york.
i wish books, series and movies had a wonderful tagging system like Ao3 tbh! i really dont like certain type of stories and themes, but a little book summary on the backcover is not gonna tell you what actually happens. a book or movie might be a romance story, but is it dark romance? is it a light, fluffy type of thing? does a main character die for a tragic plot twist???? i wish everything had a tagging system thatd be so convenient omg
this is definitely on account of my being a broke and extremely anxious little baby that fears disappointment more than anything, but i've always been completely fine with spoilers. in some cases they actually enhance my experience, because i don't spend the entire moving worrying about whether or not i'll have wasted my money to see a movie with an ending that i find disappointing. so i'm glad that you brought up people like me 😅
Trailers for a decade or more have been full of spoilers that completely ruin any intrigue i might have had, which keeps be happily avoiding theatres.
A friend recommended the movie “Your Name” to me back when it came out. I looked at screen shots of the movie and bought tickets the next day. Easily the best experience I’ve EVER had watching any movie. Granted, the trailer doesn’t spoil anything, so it’s a safe watch, but even going in knowing nothing but “this movie looks beautiful” is the way I would recommend anyone watch the it. Same with the Korean movie Parasite (completely different genre, but same idea lol). I didn’t watch the trailer for either movie until writing this comment, and they’re two of my all time favorite movies
When people say "back then", they're probably thinking about TV commercial trailers, which were either TEASERS or a very condensed trailer, edited down to save money on adspace.
From what I've spoken to people about it, I think it's mostly that the way a lot of people consume movies (or media in general) is that they mostly want some safety on what they watch. They want the story to be mostly coherent, the most important plot points wrapped up by the end, and a happy or hopeful ending, and one or all of these things missing will ruin their enjoyment of the movie.
If you're gonna spend time, money and invest yourself in a story you wanna know if it's gonna be worth your while.
So, in the Castaway example, you watched this trailer that got you really hooked, but you know you're not gonna like the movie if he doesn't make it out of the island or if they leave it ambiguous, so you need to know before going in to make sure you're gonna enjoy it. The story isn't just the ending anyway, so you can still invest yourself in the story while having the safety of knowing that in the end, everything is fine.
A lot of people just don't care all that much about the mystery of it and we can complain all day about the right or best way to watch a movie, but in the end everyone wants different things out of a story.
Thanks for being an all around positive and friendly guy, Scott. It really makes a difference sometimes.
Just remember Scott, if you’re completely in the dark in the movie theatre then you’re in the wrong theatre, go find your movie
Honestly I find the whole concept of spoilers to be silly. I mean if someone feels like they've been robbed of on experience who am I to say they're wrong. I just think that there's so much in between these "spoiled" moments that people forget it's about the journey, not the destination. Also it is so wild to me how much value some people put on unspoiled media. I just don't get that same feeling I guess. Reading the synopsis of a novel is not the same experience as actually reading it to me, I view trailers the same way.
There's a whole lot more I can say about this fairly recent phenomenon of spoilerphobia but I digress. Great points as always, loved the video.
With the Cast Away example them needing to know the answer to their question right away, is giving early signs of brain rot.
focus groups are cancer, i heard a lot of great endings were changed/reshot due to them. and I still wonder if any of them actually go to the movies at all
I spent the night of my 16th birthday watching the midnight release of Suicide Squad and I was SO VALIDATED WHEN YOU USED IT AS AN EXAMPLE! The experience was so frustrating that I did an assignment for my speech class at the time on what were the effects of watching too many trailers before watching a movie
I remember the first trailer for Split and it legit showed everything that happens, even the final act
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As someone who doesn’t watch trailers and avoids spoilers, it vastly improves my enjoyment of a lot of films that my friends didn’t like as much that do watch every trailer, going in blind is the best way to watch movies imo
I think even if you're going to spoil a _whole_ narrative in the trailer, you have to watch the tone of it. I remember when the Sing 2 trailer was an ad and not only did they show the main conflicts of all these characters and their eventual resolution, but it was so drab and wishy washy it took all possible interest of seeing it away.
When it comes to action movies, to me the trailer has to show just enough to get you hype but never show the hypest parts. The John Wick movies for example had me and everyone around me acting foolishly from hype, and yet they barely show any of the best action scenes. In fact the trailer for 4 didn't have what I consider to be the best scene in it _at all_ (which had me giggling and almost bouncing out of my seat in the theater as a grown man, so I'm glad I got to experience it raw), and the trailer made the very first fight in the movie look like it was the final one because they were that confident in the action that came later.
On the opposite end, the MCU's first Spider-Man movie pretty much had everything but the Michael Keaton twist in it, which was a secondary conflict which resulted in only a few minutes of tension. People didn't respond well so they changed tactics for the next one: lies of omission, not showing the main conflict of the movie nor the main antagonist because literally just this character's inclusion would be a spoiler. It would also go against what the movie was doing to convince you this would not be a comic accurate version of this character, so that even comic fans would doubt they knew what was going on.
I think Robert Zemekis once said something to the effect that people are more likely to see a movie if they know what's going to happen. People are weird
my guess is that people don't want to spend their money and time to go to a movie that turns out to be bad or unenjoyable. Kind of like when you feel like treating yourself to a meal at a restaurant because you had a hard week so you go to the place you have gone 100 times before and order the exact same thing to ensure you enjoy it.
something im guilty of and apparently is something a quite few people do, is straight up reading the plot on Wikipedia
Stupid*
@@starkis14159 I think equating knowing what's going to happen to knowing the quality is a mistake you've made here. Twists, reveals, unique developments - those are what make a movie good and well-written for people who aren't idiots.
Back in 2019, only like 2 weeks after Endgame came out, I was watching the NBA finals and they played a TV promo with "#1 Movie in the World" yadda yadda, but they literally showed the scene of Pepper and Tony fighting back to back from the final battle.
Two. Weeks. After the movie came out.
I have anxiety. In my personal experience... Situations where I don't know what to do/say or what will happen... do not like. However, things like movies and books can be kind of "safe" places to experience not knowing what's around the corner. Which is why it's extra disappointing when someone gives away spoilers on a book or movie or something I was really interested in experiencing.
I like watching things knowing only enough to know what the premise is, so I can decide if I want to watch it, and nothing more than that. From READING the premise, not watching anything.
10:59 I actually appreciate this so much, I have been part of that segment of society before and it was nice to know my favorite summer camp counselor respects my existence
My childhood gripe was the trailers for upcoming Barbie movies on the DVDs. I can’t remember the specific ones but I know there were several that showed things and suggested plot lines that were completely gone from the final movie that came out on the next DVD. But they were putting out like 2 movies a year so there’s definitely a chance that they threw together a trailer of a movie that wasn’t fully edited together yet
The trailer for "the last exorcist" had literally every scary moment that was in the movie
Scott, I feel seen when you mentioned the anxiety part. I always google how a movie will end before I see it and it drives my partner crazy! But I truly cannot handle not knowing, it makes me so so uncomfortable and anxious
Scott, there's an early 90s movie that this is a remake of. Its called Fall Guy. A Stunt man finds someone dead and uses his wits and film technology to stay alive and exonerate himself while the actual criminal tries to both frame and kill our Double Entendre "fall guy"
I don't think I need to see the movie. I saw the first one, and it what's entertaining but nothing to write home about
Everytime a trailer shows me more than 1/2 of the movie/essentially the whole plot, i say in the theater “well, that’s the whole movie.”
One of my favorite trailers is Watchmen with the Smashing Pumpkins song. It gave you the vibe of the movie with so many cool shots, without giving anything away.
I have a running list of movies I want to see, based on the previews. When I get to the movies I sometimes go "why the heck did I want to see THIS?" I usually retain zero info from trailers
what I hate is when all the best jokes of a movie is spoiled in a trailer. which leaves it slightly disappointing when you watch it and all the best gags you've seen before and dont hit as hard as they should have. all i can think is "oh i've already seen this"
My personal favorite movie trailer was the first trailer for the Incredibles, because it tells you everything you need to know about the film while also giving away basically nothing. It's a two minute skit that was specifically written, recorded, and animated to be a trailer - nothing resembling it appears in the movie, and in fact there's nowhere it would actually fit into the plot continuity-wise - but it uses that time to establish the premise (retired superhero getting back into the super-game), introduces us to Mr Incredible and his wife, and of course sets the tone (comedy). I was hooked the first time I saw it, went to see the movie on the back of that alone - I don't know if I ever saw an actual trailer - and twenty years later it still sticks in my mind.
I just saw fall guy movie yesterday. Looking back at the trailer it gave you enough about what the movie was gonna revolve around without giving you important details to the story. The problem trailers have is they feel like they have to be 3 to 5 minutes long. When you look back at the initial cars 3 trailers while short they gave you enough without having to show a highlight reel of the film. It was lighting is in trouble and you don't know if this it. If trailers just cut down they would probably be better received.
every time i watch hereditary i get mad when the desk scene comes up because it was in the trailer and if it wasn’t it would’ve been one of the most memorable scenes in the movie
omggggg that hot dog clip at the end brings me back to the drive inn where they'd play these lil animated snack clips
I just watched The Fall Guy movie and came here to say that the trailer did not spoil anything. When they “revealed that the actor died” that wasn’t even the actor it was a literally different guy and ig no one noticed
A lot of times trailers have deleted scenes, so you're not really seeing the actual movie.
My worst one is from Quarantine, where the last shot of the trailer is the last shot of the movie.
I agree with you Scott, I get tired of movie trailers giving the movie away. I search for the teaser trailer of movies im interested in because they're shorter trailers than the original. This has been a pet peeve of mine for awhile. Sometimes I won't watch trailer at all
Ive also said I never watch trailers because they spoil everything but this video has shown that sentiment is a bit more complicated. Great vid I enjoyed!
I’m old enough to remember when trailers showed pivotal scenes that weren’t in the movie at all
I saw kangaroo jack in theaters when I was a very very young so I just have vague memories of it. I cant believe this is how i found out the kangaroo didnt actually talk throughout the entire movie.